hk-help

[undone coyote]

||i dont get how people do p5 with all bindings||

[civic iron]

they must be crazy fr fr i wanna be crazy toooooo

[golden flower]

im working on it (should get it today/tommorow, pb is ||zote||)
||bindings are kinda just something you learn how to play with eventually, i went into p5ab from p4ab without too much practice and got good progress fast||

[civic iron]

gl

[undone coyote]

gl ||yeah i beat pantheon 1 + 2 but 3 is a struggle easier than p5 tho||

3 ||with bindings is easier than p5||

[unborn stone]

I lowk forget if ||nail binding affects nail arts||

[golden flower]

it does, ||narts (excluding cyclone, which is variable)|| are 2.5x current needle damage without charms (||fury|| being the exception)

[golden flower]

doubt
||collector ab and zote ab|| are the (imo) hardest things the game has to learn

[civic iron]

ouch

[final badge]

||markoth radiant||

[civic iron]

nah its not that bad xd

it just took me like 5 hours

[golden flower]

not much to learn there
||great/dash slash on every opening in phase 1, spam shade soul in phase 2||

[undone coyote]

is this an ok charm combo

[golden flower]

thatll work but i dont like ||longnail (15% just doesnt do enough), i run spelltwister or steadybody with mark of pride overcharmed||

[unborn stone]

That is surprisingly close to mine lol

[glad jackal]

I just found||Broken Vessel||, any tips?

[golden flower]

||being overcharmed is kinda bad for someone who hasnt beat it yet tho right??||
yes

[undone coyote]

oops

i can try ||spell twister|| but i kinda forgot sometimes to use them

[quartz bane]

Stay close to him

[unborn stone]

||bro even with the reduced nail dmg I still melt these bosses LOL||

[undone coyote]

how 😭

[unborn stone]

I run a ||nail build|| btw

[golden flower]

||quickslash|| is that good

[unborn stone]

||possibility of bias here as its one of my main charms but I'd say its good, especially for nail builds||

[undone coyote]

i think they meant it in a different way

could be wrong

||im struggling so much on umuu more than pure vessel any tips?||

i think thats its name

[golden flower]

||my strategy (probably not perfect, but it works) is to stay on one of the two bottom platforms. the minefield attack doesnt target either of them, and the other one is just going up the closest wall and getting to the other bottom platform. uumuu will guaranteed summon after 2 attacks without summoning. if things are really bad, dnail can be used on oomas (and uumuu, though thats riskier) for soul to heal. fireball can be used to remote detonate oomas, especially if they overlap with uumuu||

[thick wing]

||quick slash is good for spell builds too cuz more nail hits = more soul = more spells, as a spell enjoyer i stopped using strenght in favor of more soul catching charms lol||

[undone coyote]

it worked thank you

im at ||flying nosk|| now

[opaque moth]

how do i get mods i'm wondering?

[drifting trout]

hi, and tips for the ||Dung Dung Defender|| real quick? thx 🙂

[unborn stone]

What abilities do you have?

[undone coyote]

stick close, use ||the downslam spell|| when it goes underground

thats how i beat it

[drifting trout]

ummm i think everything thats collectable before

[drifting trout]

thx

imma abt to attempt rn

[undone coyote]

i just beat ||white defender|| im getting closer

should i change charm layout?

[golden flower]

next bit is the hardest
probably not

[unborn stone]

Why is ||markoth|| genuinely so hard lol ||I'm spamming nail arts||

[undone coyote]

what about ||long nail||

[undone coyote]

hes next bruh

smth like this

[golden flower]

do not rush it
my ||markoth|| fights take far longer than they need to
just chill on a platform unless theres a reason to move

[tight schooner]

What are the best ||charms for p4||

[undone coyote]

wish me luck

[inland loom]

how to beat || absrad || /j

[proud sapphire]

i beat ||the hollow knight||

[inland loom]

me too

i beat it and drew it

[proud sapphire]

ye its my 1st playthrouhg

[tight schooner]

What are the best ||charms for p4||

[inland loom]

congrats

[undone coyote]

I JUST BEAT ||NKG|| THIS IS THE FURTHEST IVE MADE IT

[golden flower]

2 remain

[undone coyote]

never fought ||absrad|| ill practice it when i die

[hushed laurel]

goddayum

[golden flower]

if you beat ||pv, dont heal; absrad gives a full heal when started||

[hushed laurel]

i only reached ||failed champion||

[undone coyote]

what happened to ||pv|| why did he seem so much stronger

and faster

i died in the 2nd phase

[hushed laurel]

have you tried ||hall of gods pv||

[undone coyote]

i forgot

[undone coyote]

whats that

[hushed laurel]

practice area

??

[undone coyote]

ohh no

is he on the ||2nd difficulty now||

ik theres 2

[hushed laurel]

did he do 4 masks

[undone coyote]

2 but he seemed faster than ||p4||

[hushed laurel]

then no

ur just wrong

[undone coyote]

oh

[golden flower]

its the same
im guessing its mental, ||p5|| tends to do that

[undone coyote]

idk then

[hushed laurel]

AND GOD I HATE ||MARKOTH|| WHY IS HE BEFORE ||FAILED CHAMPION||

[plucky ridge]

What's the best build for ph3

[golden flower]

skipped ||zote||? thats no fun

[undone coyote]

||markoth|| is kinda easy bro

[undone coyote]

probably lol

[tight schooner]

What are the best ||charms for p4|| plz i really need help

[hushed laurel]

he’s a shithead without a floor

[undone coyote]

not really

walls are there so its chill

[unborn stone]

At least ||failed champion is free health/soul restock|| lol

[hushed laurel]

does the armor give soul

NO

do i get any bench before it?

NO

[unborn stone]

||just restock all your health and soul at the first stagger its not that bad||

[undone coyote]

how do you even take damage to him

hes so easy to dodge

[hushed laurel]

who

mark

or fail

[undone coyote]

||failed champion||

[golden flower]

thats.. not very helpful

[undone coyote]

but its easy to dodge if you just ||shadow dodge thing||

i forgot the name

[hushed laurel]

and his shield spin is also pure ass

especially when i gotta heal

[undone coyote]

||markoth isnt even a skill issue if you die though its random asl his attacks||

[hushed laurel]

i don’t die to him

but failed

yes

very much

[undone coyote]

o

[hushed laurel]

[golden flower]

healing window is free (but tight) at the beginning of every spin, it takes a while to get up to full range

[undone coyote]

when he jumps just ||dash|| under thats all you need to do no?

[hushed laurel]

what

do

you

mean

[plucky ridge]

What's harder ph3 or ||nkg||

[golden flower]

||p3||

[undone coyote]

thats all i do

[unborn stone]

||and double jump over the Shockwave if he jumps back||

[undone coyote]

ph3

[undone coyote]

yeah

[golden flower]

talking about ||failed champion||

[plucky ridge]

Ok whats a good build for ||nkg||

[hushed laurel]

e

oh

ye

BUT HE DOES SHOCKWAVE

[undone coyote]

i take maybe 1 hit of him

[hushed laurel]

THE JUMP AT ME

LIKE

[undone coyote]

||dash||

wait what one are you talking about theres 2 i think

[unborn stone]

||The harder one i assume||

[golden flower]

heres a pretty simple run

[undone coyote]

how do you get a custom cloak

or whatever it is

[golden flower]

customknight mod

[undone coyote]

where do i download a safe one

[golden flower]

#modding-discussion message

[strange rune]

Guys I’m trying the 5 hour speedrun but I keep getting stuck at the boss hollow knight, any help?

[tight schooner]

I JUST BEAT ||P4|| OH MY FRIKING GOD!!!!

[gusty cove]

LETS GO!

[crude cliff]

nice

[undone coyote]

W

[sharp island]

what’s the last one

[sharp island]

LETS GO!

[random spear]

ggs

[random spear]

how the hell did you get ||void tendrils as journal entry|| they can't even be hit

[golden flower]

near (ability name) ||shade cloak||, interacting with a tablet

[sharp island]

it’s a secret area above where you get ||shade cloak||

around the middle of the picture

[random spear]

oh wait i went there nvm

[tight schooner]

I JUST BEAT ||NKG|| LETS FRIKING GOOOOO

[slender aurora]

CONGRATDSSS WELL DONE

[plucky ridge]

Any tips for ||nkg||

[slim stump]

Use || sharp shadow ||

[plucky ridge]

Ok

[slim stump]

Also, take your time, dont get greedy with your nail hits

[plucky ridge]

Good to know

[tight schooner]

I 112% HOLLOW KNIGHT

[noble epoch]

nice me to

[vagrant cedar]

i know im an hour late but HELL YEAHHH

[lean cave]

Tips for ||broken vessel||

Hello?

[tight schooner]

And I beat ||trial of the fool||

[tight schooner]

What upgrades do you have

And ||charms||

[lean cave]

2 ||nail|| upgrades and

[tight schooner]

Ok

[lean cave]

God the word ||city||

[quick hare]

I cant say anything due to spiler?

spoliers

[lean cave]

No

Pray

Broken

Vessle

Hu some words work

[quick hare]

I died in enemy gauntlet that I cant beat but now I cant get my shadow back what do I do?

[lean cave]

Do you have eg

[quick hare]

yeah

[lean cave]

Do you have simple kes

[quick hare]

I have one

[lean cave]

Use it in dirtmonth and right is kes hole

[quick hare]

ok , but thats very poor game design from teamc herry to put someone ina gauntletr any warning ngl sucks

[lean cave]

Yes but give eg and get shadow

[quick hare]

yk what Im goingn to kill myself because I only had like 100 geo anyways now that I remember I can do that

[lean cave]

K

[quick hare]

(in hollow knight)

[lean cave]

Help

[midnight harbor]

My controller is being weird in HK since the last update, both the joysticks keep changin, the left one is usually for movement and the left for the camera, but they keep changing mid game, so are the A and B buttons. I tested the controller with Cuphead and Silksong and it was fine, is it happening to someone else?

[lean cave]

No

What version

What play device?

[midnight harbor]

Steam, version 1.5.12459

[lean cave]

I'm on switch

So no

[shut sparrow]

I'd ask in #modding-discussion

[lean cave]

Vessle that is broken tips

[midnight harbor]

Do you have ||shade soul|| ?

[lean cave]

No

[midnight harbor]

I only beat this boss the first time when I got it, it's a huge upgrade in damage

[lean cave]

K

[midnight harbor]

And it's very easy ||to double tap broken vessel with shade soul cause it takes so much knock back||

[orchid flower]

Could u use the spoiler tags please?

[lean cave]

Fine ||broken vessel||

Any tips tho

[hybrid sluice]

Can I gets some tips for the ||Second Hornet|| fight?

[lean cave]

I need tip for broken ||vessel||

[wide rampart]

For ||broken vessel|| right?

Ok so

[lean cave]

Yes

[wide rampart]

Do you have ||fragile strength||

Or ||steady body||

?

[lean cave]

Broke it and no

[wide rampart]

||shaman stone||?

[lean cave]

Yes

[wide rampart]

What’s ur load out rn?

Bru I hate the spoiler bot sometimes

[lean cave]

Same

I just misspell

[wide rampart]

It’s alright

Ok so

Put on ||s. Stone||

Then

[lean cave]

K need to get to bench

[wide rampart]

||grubsong|| and ||spell twister||

[lean cave]

This

[wide rampart]

I’m actually so excited for u

Yes!

||broken vessel|| became one of my favorite fights

[lean cave]

Nice should I get shad soul?

[wide rampart]

Yeah but you’ll be fine

[lean cave]

K going in

[wide rampart]

What part are u struggling on?

[lean cave]

Nothing just wanted tips

[wide rampart]

Ah ok

Just keep hitting it until it does

Dies*

And try to dodge

[lean cave]

K thanks

[wide rampart]

Happy to help

!

[hybrid sluice]

Bringing this back up now that that convo is done

[lean cave]

Died when he spawned orange ghosts

[wide rampart]

Oh ok

I’ll help u both

First the ||BV|| person

Just hit them once and they die

Ok now

The ||hornet 2|| person

How are y struggling?

[hybrid sluice]

I just can’t dodge fast enough

[wide rampart]

Hmmm

What build u got?

[hybrid sluice]

||Lifeblood Heart, Grubsong, Shaman Stone ||

[wide rampart]

Ok so

Don’t use heart

[plucky ridge]

How many ||notches|| do u have

And what charms

[hybrid sluice]

6

[wide rampart]

Send a pic

I’ll fight her with ur build rq

Or one I can make up

[hybrid sluice]

How do I do the spoiler thing on it?

[wide rampart]

With ur charms

[golden flower]

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[lean cave]

Same

[wide rampart]

Ok

So

You have more ||notches|| so more options

[plucky ridge]

Swap ||Lifeblood with Mark of pride||

[wide rampart]

They don’t have

They have ||longnail||

[plucky ridge]

I thought furry was pride

[wide rampart]

Ah

Ok

[lean cave]

I'm stuck on colossle move on bk.v

[plucky ridge]

The defender and sproom build could work

[wide rampart]

So change ||grubsong|| for ||longnail||

[lean cave]

I get hit a lot

[wide rampart]

And ||heart|| for ||catcher||

[lean cave]

Gubsong =1. other = 2

[wide rampart]

Yes

But

They have 6

[plucky ridge]

What part of ||coliseum||

[wide rampart]

You have 5

So they ca fit them on

[lean cave]

No colossle move from ||broken vessel||

[plucky ridge]

Oh he isn't so bad

[hybrid sluice]

I’m || Overcharmed ||

[plucky ridge]

I would go with a quick strick and heal build

[lean cave]

What?

[wide rampart]

This is my stuff

[lean cave]

N Switch?

[wide rampart]

Yeh

[lean cave]

Nice

[plucky ridge]

1 or 2

[wide rampart]

So what’s ur build again?

[lean cave]

Me?

[wide rampart]

Yeh

[random spear]

any tips for ||radiant gpz(i only know to ddark spam lmao)||

[wide rampart]

Gs, ss, and st right?

[plucky ridge]

Is it the first sun fight or the second

[lean cave]

Shaw stone gubsang lifblood heart

[wide rampart]

Nah I’m nowhere skilled enough for that

[wide rampart]

Yes

Ok

I’ll try

[random spear]

||godhome, level 3||

[wide rampart]

On switch

[plucky ridge]

Oh I'm not qualified to help u sorry

[random spear]

its fine

[wide rampart]

Ok so

I killed the ||BV||

With ur build

[lean cave]

Changed gub to thorn

[plucky ridge]

Bad idea

[lean cave]

K

[plucky ridge]

Thorn leaves u open and makes u stagger

Gub is better of the 2

[lean cave]

K

I have drem nal

[plucky ridge]

Ok

[lean cave]

Still get hit most coleseeam mov from b v

[hybrid sluice]

Ok, so I beat || Hornet || where do I go to get the ||shade cloak||

[wintry oriole]

||greenpath?||

[hybrid sluice]

No, the second one

[wintry oriole]

Can u vc? I can show you

[random spear]

||shade cloak, not mothwing cloak||

[wintry oriole]

I know, I just wanted to know which one

[wintry oriole]

@hybrid sluice

[desert salmon]

||Best charms for the pantheon 2||

[random spear]

||shaman stone for multi hit xero, quickslash and strenght as usual, quick focus if you're a beginner(replace shaman with it if u can't afford)||

i can suggest for specific bosses if you want

[desert salmon]

||It’s 11 notches…||

[wintry oriole]

Best charms for ||p1 shell bind?||

[desert salmon]

||Zero is draining most of my health…||

[random spear]

||that's why i said you can replace if you can't afford||

[golden flower]

||shaman|| is not needed to multihit ||xero||, i get triplehits on ||ab||
though it should be used anyway

[random spear]

||ub/frag heart, don't use lifeblood charms bc they're an overuse of notches, also use quick focus because you'll be healing a lot more, so use baldur shell with that as well for safety||

[worldly pawn]

||You go down to ancient basin and go down to the bottem there should be a door you couldnt open before bc you needed kings mark||

[distant plank]

does anyone have any tips for ||lost kin||

[desert salmon]

||brand||

[ruby folio]

Probably do a ||lifeblood build|| because there aren’t many healing chances

[golden flower]

there are plenty of healing windows, they have a low stagger hit count
||lifeblood|| charms are a waste of their cost more often than not

[ruby folio]

Ok

Sorry

[worldly pawn]

Yea thanks:)

[rustic kindle]

How to you get ps5 version of hollow knight?

[golden flower]

they take a bunch of knockback, which some charms may be able to capitalize on
beyond that, target balloons as they spawn

[distant plank]

||i've been using weaversong to try to deal with the adds but they're still absolutely unbearable||

[desert salmon]

So…||qslash, strength, qfocus, long nail?||

[desert salmon]

No problem bae

[desert salmon]

@golden flower @random spear

[golden flower]

that could work yes

[desert salmon]

could?

I need confirmation

[wintry oriole]

||I have 1 more notch, best use?||

[golden flower]

i personally dont like ||quick focus or longnail|| (but they are both good for what they do)
charms alone arent going to win the run, build isnt that important

[desert salmon]

What would you pick?

[golden flower]

now? ||strength quickslash shaman (steadybody overcharm mark of pride)/spelltwister||

[random spear]

||my best suggestion is sprintmaster purely for the mobility boost but if you don't have problems with that with that i'd pick dream wielder, the slower cooldown and soul boost you get helps a LOT with farming soul especially since you're vulnerable for a lot less time, it's utilizable with a lot of bosses too(false knight, hornet, and most of all, oro/mato)||

[desert salmon]

||Why would I over charm ||

[gusty cove]

that wasnt a recommendation; you were asking what they would pick lul

[desert salmon]

That’s true, thank you for reminding me.

[desert salmon]

||I would have one more notch left… which charm?||

I need ||nail range tho right..?||

[snow hearth]

whats a cool ||charm|| for one ||notch||? i have a build that i like very much but now have one ||notch|| left

[desert salmon]

@golden flower

[soft obsidian]

you could do ||grubsong|| if you have it

[primal harbor]

For me, it's ||Steady Body and Grubsong||

[dull crag]

||whats the fastest and easiest way to get kingsoul for heart of void thingy||

[primal harbor]

||Defeat the Traitor Lord in Queen's Garden and talk to the White Lady. Collect 1800 essence and get the Awoken Dream Nail from the Seer. Use it on the guard in the Palace Ground and complete the White Palace||

[dull crag]

||is traitor lord any hard?||

[primal harbor]

||He has 4 moves, and he does double damage. He was the hardest for me personally||

[dull crag]

Double dmg

Fuck

[scenic egret]

there is no fastest way because there is only 1 way

[dull crag]

||ima farm mask||

[primal harbor]

True

[scenic egret]

if youre struggling really hard you can try to get some upgrades

or use the time to learn and fight

[dull crag]

K thx

||whats the fastest way to gain essence||

[primal harbor]

Fighting ||Dream Bosses and Warrior Dreams||

[dull crag]

Appreciate it

[surreal ivy]

so im on my ||steal soul|| run and cant rember ware ||cristl dash|| is i know its in ||cristle peak|| but i cant find it

[orchid flower]

Is all the way on the right

You kinda gotta go up and around

[surreal ivy]

so like, both doors are locked

up and rihgt

[orchid flower]

Your not looking hard enough then

[surreal ivy]

bro

theres too ways to go, up and right

up is locked and right is locked,

i can prob unlocke up but it will take me a wile without ||dubble jump||

im an itiot

i fond it

it was the other up

[primal linden]

Best ||charms|| for ||Grimm||?

[hoary anvil]

what ones do you have? (inventory screenshot)
-# spoiler rules exist in the channel and we aren't supposed to spoil ones you don't know unless you explicitly want it or we warn that's what's in the spoiler

[primal linden]

All of them

[opaque moth]

i have a quick question how do i get mods for hollow knight? i want to try solo randomizers.

[tall cove]

when is the modding api going to be fixed for the latest patch

[opaque moth]

i found a mod thing is this safe ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822798410892836864/874184713751908382/ModInstaller-Windows.zip?ex=698a2e35&is=6988dcb5&hm=bad5e453e75b7dbd11bbec8490ac01fe95be147d11394d02cd851e3d8baafa74&||

[steel shore]

Yo guys my hollow knight keeps pausing every time I input a key

What do me do

[opaque moth]

is it safe?? idk

[hoary anvil]

my go-to build for basically everything is ||hybrid nail/heal: unbreakable strength/quick slash + quick focus/shape of unn||.
notes:
||- unbreakable strength is valuable for increased chip damage on every hit. also useful for some specific fights with summons to get over damage threasholds to one shot things, but that's not relevant here.

• quick slash is less important in the grimm fight as you're generally reacting to grimm and grabbing hits as they go by, but can still help with hitrate -> soul generation when countering fire bats
• quick focus and shape of unn allow you to heal in a LOT more places increasing survivability. quick focus also boosts shape of unn's move speed which is neat. in this fight you can heal when they go for like the swipe into uppercut by just moving away and spacing between the consistent fireball pattern (works even charmless, qf/unn just makes it easier) ... i also *think* shape of unn lets you fit under the fire bats and heal at least while moving towards grimm so that's neat, just make sure your heal doesn't end while under a bat.
• if this is overworld grimm, you could swap out quick slash for the mandatory grimmchild||

standard meta is dps check build of ||hybrid nail/spell of strength/quick slash + shaman/twister||

[worldly pawn]

where/when do u do ||path of pain?||

[low thorn]

|| whitepalace||

[hoary anvil]

more specifically, ||breakable wall on the left a little beyond the elevator just after the central bench||

[low thorn]

What charms are good for || nightmare king grimm||

[hoary anvil]

are all charms fair game or do you want to show us the ones you have?

[low thorn]

I have all

[hoary anvil]

aight

||normal fight (mandatory grimmchild) or rematch fight (no charm restrictions)||?

[low thorn]

Normal fight

[hoary anvil]

so priority #1 imo: ||shape of unn - allows you to heal 3 easily on flame pillars. combo with quick focus for faster move speed and heal time.||

[low thorn]

|| i have all the notches||

[hoary anvil]

beyond that just slap on some standard dps charms probably

[low thorn]

No offensive?

[hoary anvil]

i usually prefer including defensive charms for survivability

but there's plenty of spots left for offensive

[low thorn]

True

[hoary anvil]

my standard build (no restrictions, everything unlocked) is ||hybrid nail/heal: unbreakable strength/quick slash + quick focus/shape of unn||

standard meta build is the dps ||hybrid nail/spell of strength/qs + shaman/twister||

[hoary anvil]

in the case of this fight, ||quick slash|| isn't as valuable as you're often sneaking in hits as they go past you, so from my personal build i'd drop it for ||mandatory grimmchild + filler (grubsong works for first clears)||

[low thorn]

True, as most of the time hes just dissapearing

[hoary anvil]

there is the ||nail art strategy including nailmaster's glory, if you're using that you can consider dropping strength (as it doesn't boost nail arts), but my nart usage here is personally just reserved to dash slash right as it's finishing off pufferfish||

[hoary anvil]

so my personal final build recommendation here is like ||mandatory grimmchild, quick focus, shape of unn, unbreakable strength, grubsong* *preference based 1-notch of not thorns, grubsong gets some value if you're learning the fight -> get hit a lot||

[wise latch]

Any tips for ||base game Grimm fight||?

[hoary anvil]

anything in particular you're struggling with?

(also, based on that name i would presume you have all major items, but i am not sure and so wouldn't want to spoil you if you haven't and don't want any item spoilers)

[wise latch]

Uh, I suppose the attacks in which he lunges towards you at the bottom, for some reason it takes me a minute to realize which direction he's going and I struggle to dodge

[wise latch]

I can send you my charms if you give me a sec

[bright hamlet]

||drill or slash?||

Show inventory btw

And charms

[hoary anvil]

aka do they start in the air or ground?

[wise latch]

I'd probably say the air one is toughest

I dont have a great reaction time so it's hard to tell what he's doing when the setup for moves are similar

If that makes sense..

[low thorn]

Just pogo on him

[hoary anvil]

because it has two, ||one that goes kind of like (assuming they start on your left and so are moving right) air \ pause -, and one that's on the ground that goes more like - then / with fireballs||

[bright hamlet]

Or || dash through, it's easier||

[low thorn]

Idk if he has || shade cloak||

Plus extra damage

[hoary anvil]

the easiest tell to use is often not what they look to be doing but where they teleport to relative to the player, as you can notice that a lot earlier

[bright hamlet]

94% bro better have it

[wise latch]

Would ||sharp shadow|| be a good charm to use? I switched it out in lieu of healing charms for the past few fights but it was useful

[wise latch]

I do lol

[bright hamlet]

Y E S

YES YES

[low thorn]

Nope

[bright hamlet]

You don't need healing ones

[bright hamlet]

Shush, ||sharpshadow makes grimm fight easier||

[wise latch]

||Sharp shadow|| my beloved 🙏

[hoary anvil]

it's alright, it does chip damage but i can see the ||dash distance|| messing up spacing in the fight if you aren't used to it

[low thorn]

Honestly for me,the ballon attack was the hardest

Without it i would have soled him pretty easily

[bright hamlet]

Yeah real, but once u understand how to dodge, it's fine. Just waste of time

[hoary anvil]

healing ones are very good though
-# except ||deep focus and hiveblood||, we ignore those
-# so basically just ||quick focus and shape of unn||

[wise latch]

The balloon one is so annoying, it's just a lot of timing jumps and doing nothing

[hoary anvil]

time to pull up the circle jumping diagram

[wise latch]

I've got those last two rn, but I might switch out ||quick focus||

[low thorn]

I have a method to just cheese the fight

[wise latch]

Hang on let me send my build

[hoary anvil]

also every 8th? one is a double bottom, the 3rd one indicates end of attack

[wise latch]

Since it's my first playthrough I don really wanna cheese the bosses, if i get pissed off enough maybe but eh

[hoary anvil]

ah yes, the ||base grimm damage tank strat||

[wise latch]

Cant wait to learn all the cheesing strats post completion lol

Invent and charms

[low thorn]

I call it || the disrespectful shriek spam||

[hoary anvil]

since it's ||base grimm||, as much as it pains me i would say switch out my favorite charm ||shape of unn|| because you can just heal on ||cloak spikes|| (much easier in this one than on future iterations of that attack that i haven't figured out the timings yet)

[low thorn]

True

Id recommend || mark of pride if you find it hard to land those hits||

[wise latch]

Would ||sharp shadow|| be a good replacement?

[wise latch]

I can do that too

[hoary anvil]

🤷 playstyle dependant

[low thorn]

Maybe

[hoary anvil]

if you like how it feels to use, the chip damage can be nice (it does ||1x nail swing|| in damage, so not a ton), but the main reason i use it is whenever i need ||the extra shade cloak dash distance|| for a no hit

[low thorn]

Also,|| spells are kinda worthless in this fight||

So no || shaman stone||

[wise latch]

I'll give ||mark of pride|| a try first instead of ||quick focus||, see how that works

Switched out ||unn|| for ||Sharp shadow|| too

[low thorn]

Good

[hoary anvil]

for sure bring it back for other fights ((there's a few in specific))

[wise latch]

Just gave it another run, ||man is mothwing clock useful for those ground attacks, I didn't get hit for a good while just by double jump and pogo||

[hoary anvil]

anyways, charmless heal opportunities are ||cloak spikes (TMG isn't as fast as some other similar attacks so you can get it pretty easy), backup (if needed) being the swipe uppercut (if you dash/walk away or something, fireball pattern is always consistent and can be predicted), and stagger (which btw is limited in how much damage it takes here so do NOT dump spells)||

[rain folio]

Amon why are you playing Hollow Knight?

[hoary anvil]

• comes into hollow knight server
• asks why someone is playing hollow knight
  🧐

[rain folio]

[carmine holly]

how do i geo farm like crazy

[primal ibex]

Send your map

[orchid flower]

Honestly just playing the game will give you more than enough to buy everything naturally

Unless you’re really set on buying a specific thing, you’ll be able to buy it later really easily

[primal ibex]

There’s the ||unbreakable charms||

[orchid flower]

I reiterate, just playing the game will get you more than enough

[hoary anvil]

i think in my casual run i did have to money grind for those though...

[orchid flower]

I didn’t have to

[smoky fractal]

I didn't have enough for the ||unbreakable charms||

[hoary anvil]

the rare combination of dying enough to farm random enemies, but not enough to lose all your money 🧐

[smoky fractal]

But aside from those you will not need to grind geo

[vague fern]

ggs bad helper

[distant plank]

someone please i am in desperate need of help i've been struggling for HOURS on ||markoth, no not any ascended or whatever version, his normal version|| can anyone help please

[quaint drum]

On what?

[distant plank]

click on the gray parts to see it

[quaint drum]

Oh that guy. I hate him

When he shots arrows just jump around the arean and hit him if you happen to be close but other wise...

When he starts shooting quicker I mean

In the beginning you can stay close to him

[orchid flower]

||The best way to fight him is to just chill out until he stays put, then hit him a bunch||

He’s really not too terrible as long as you fight him patiently

[vague fern]

|| p5ab || in the name is beautiful

[orchid flower]

It’s so beautiful

[vague fern]

Whats next? If anything

[orchid flower]

Oops

[orchid flower]

||Any Radiance|| for the moment

[vague fern]

oh sick

well not sick bc bad boss but cool nonetheless

[hoary anvil]

i had ||weathered mask|| in my name until silksong ((prioritized over ||void idol 3||))

[vague fern]

just add every achievement possible

[orchid flower]

||Nonsenf loves her they were very excited to show me how to do it||

[quaint drum]

Idk how to frikin mark my messages I can't find the stupid symbol

[hoary anvil]

me when character limit

[hoary anvil]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

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[distant plank]

||i cant hit him when he's staying put even, when he only has one shield i can but when he has 2 i either get hit by the spinning one or the stationary spinning one||

[quaint drum]

Yeah u can't find the spoiler tag symbol its so dumb

[orchid flower]

||P5AB|| really made me realize the gap in difficulty between some of the achievements

[hoary anvil]

the | symbol ... if it's keyboard then shift + \

[orchid flower]

||Can I see ur inventory?||

[hoary anvil]

if it's on mobile then usually the symbols tab

[distant plank]

||like charms or?||

[orchid flower]

No just normal inventory

[vague fern]

like what?

[hoary anvil]

in my game idea (if i ever make it), i'm definitely going to have like an overview tab that crams basically everything it can onto the screen to help out the helpers

[quaint drum]

That would be nice

[orchid flower]

Like when people have really long names like ||P5+PoP+Radiant NKG+Radiant Pure Vessel|| and stuff it isn’t nearly as exciting as just one ||P5AB|| or ||Weathered Mask||, still very impressive tho

[orchid flower]

||dash slash is what you should use to hit him||

It increases your range by like 10 years

[vague fern]

Unironically i did find it alot more fun than expected, i just had to wary with falling down that rabbit hole

[hoary anvil]

i didn't even know range could be increased by a unit of time

-# assumption: "yards" was intended

[vague fern]

Light year

[hoary anvil]

not stated

[distant plank]

wait i just killed him we chilling

[orchid flower]

Nice job!

[distant plank]

||holy shit dude only 200 essence??? does anyone know where i can get another 400||

||i've killed every warrior dream||

[orchid flower]

Just gotta keep fighting these guys

[orchid flower]

If you’re okay with minor spoilers

||Some bosses have rematches that give 300+ essence||

[distant plank]

||yes i've killed failed champion and lost kin||

[orchid flower]

There’s a few more

I’d just check around boss arenas

See if there are any others you can go for

2 of the 3 remaining ones require special conditions to be met though

[distant plank]

||i heard soul master has a rematch, does that require anything or..?||

[hoary anvil]

no

[orchid flower]

Nope that’s the last remaining normal one

[orchid flower]

Pardon me, there’s 4 left and 3 require special conditions

[vague fern]

4 left?

[orchid flower]

Though one doesn’t give any ||essence||

[vague fern]

ah gotcha

[hoary anvil]

ah, the one not relevant to the context, got it ((my brain was discarding it))

[jaunty night]

I'm going crazy what's the third one that gives ||essence||

[shell wharf]

‎

[jaunty night]

It's ||soul tyrant, white defender,|| and what?

[vague fern]

<@&283547423706447872>

[orchid flower]

||Soul Tyrant, White Defender, Grey Prince Zote||

Then ||Nightmare King Grimm|| is the rematch that doesn’t give any

[jaunty night]

Ohh

I thought you were talking about ||gpz|| as the no ||essence|| one

[vivid fog]

i missed it nooo

[jaunty night]

Thought I was going crazy

[acoustic sigil]

🐌

[vague fern]

Still there no? The large spam of invisible text

or am i just imagining things

[vivid fog]

don't make wall-text pls

[hoary anvil]

lmao

[vivid fog]

oh nvm they're muted

lmao

[acoustic sigil]

I first thought it was my discord tripping lol

[vague fern]

same lmao

[vivid fog]

i saw it just now

[acoustic sigil]

Yes but I dont feel like deleting 30 individual messages

[hoary anvil]

it wasn't until low gear that i realized ||wings are mandatory to access gpz, because the basement doesn't open||

[hoary anvil]

i mean you can hold shift and then click repeatedly iirc (on computer)

[acoustic sigil]

I am on mobile 😔

[hoary anvil]

I am on not-mod role 😔

and i'm too lazy to switch to my alt that is totally a mod and totally in this server

[jaunty night]

eat the moderators

[hoary anvil]

-# actually i do have 2 alts but #1 is intended for more irl groups, and #2 is intended for a more public facing game dev account

[vague fern]

ofc i was just confused

interesting approach to get img perms

[flint tree]

any good nail builds for the ||pantheons?||

[jaunty night]

||strength, quick slash, mark of pride, unbreakable heart||

[vague fern]

|| strength qslash mop/qfocus sbody grubsong/nmg ||

[flint tree]

is this good?

[polar flicker]

Yes

[jaunty night]

Sure but get the ||last charm notch||

[flint tree]

where?

[polar flicker]

For a nail only build

[flint tree]

k

[acoustic sigil]

Continue the ||grimm troupe ||

[jaunty night]

||it's probably the one in fog canyon||

[flint tree]

did that

[jaunty night]

||Grimm troupe|| then

[flint tree]

havent done the boss

[jaunty night]

That's the one

Beat him

And you get it

[neat plank]

Any tips for ||absrad||

[orchid flower]

Which part are u struggling on?

[jaunty night]

Beat her in ||hall of gods on ascended before attempting her in p5||

[neat plank]

Idk i havent played it much bc i unlocked it just yesterday

[neat plank]

Ok

[orchid flower]

Well I’ll go through the whole fight

[neat plank]

Ok

[orchid flower]

Floor:

||She has 6 attacks. Some are simpler than others.

Sword Walls: There will be 3. Just dash through the gaps

Sword Rain: There will be 4 waves. Stand in the big gaps. It’s possible to stand between the tiny gaps as well, if it’s necessary

Sword Burst: Abs Rad will rear her head back and swords will appear from her face. There will be 2 waves, the second one hitting spots the first didn’t, just dodge the first and then go to where the swords were to dodge the second

Beam Burst: Abs Rad will rear her head back and her face will glow. The first set of beams will be wicked fast and you just need to practice enough to be able to react to it. After that, the beams never hit the same spot twice so go to where they used to be for the second and third bursts.

Orbs: She will spawn 3-4 homing orbs. They’re destroyed upon hitting the ground so just try to bait them into the floor

Beam Wall: A wall will sweep the entire stage that you need to have invincibility frames to dodge. Either shade dash through it or dive when it passes over you. Do this before it reaches the midpoint of the arena, otherwise she’ll overlap an attack on it.||

||After a certain point, spikes will appear on the ground. These just constrict your movement. Don’t try to chase her unnecessarily too much, be patient. It’s possible to destroy the spikes by having invincibility frames in them, either from shade dash or dive. Shade dash is very very precise though||

||When small sets of spikes appear on each side of the floor, she will begin an infinite sword rain that continues until you stagger her. Just be patient.||

PLATFORMS:

||She has the same attacks, just with some small tweaks. Sword rain is entirely deleted, there’s only two sets of sword walls, the first beams in the beam burst come out slightly slower. The safest strategy is to sit at the bottom platform. You’ll be able to dodge through the walls and wail on her whenever she comes down. DO NOT CHASE HER, YOU WILL GET HIT. When in doubt, dive for invincibility. You should dive if she ever spawns on top of you.||

END:

||Eventually she will teleport into the sky and you’ll need to climb up to her. You need to maximize the amount of time you have to react to the beams by jumping when they form and double jumping/dashing when they fire. Get used to the rhythm. Neat the top they start being aimed and you can bait them by jumping away from the next platform and dashing to it. At the top, you’ll have two platforms and she’ll keep spawning orbs until one of you dies. There’s a lot of strategies to kill her here, I’d recommend watching videos of people doing it.||

I forget how complex she is sometimes that thing is so long

[polar flicker]

Damn that's a big wall

[jaunty night]

That's a lot of words

[neat plank]

Tysm

[polar flicker]

Imagine u forget to put the spoiler mark at the end

[orchid flower]

She’s got so much more going on than the other two haha

[smoky fractal]

yes, a lot and extremely in depth if you want them

[neat plank]

Why not

[orchid flower]

I didn’t mention healing opportunities but feel I got the gist of the fight down

Of course he’s gonna need to practice a lot

[neat plank]

Yea

It was really helpful

[smoky fractal]

you have done everything in here so there shouldn't be spoilers, there is 7 pages of ||absrad
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qC88RU8IXwrY58MpmXZs14UO1ECRUqBTo12RDVIKIYE/edit?usp=sharing ||

I normally don't send it here but you shouldn't see anything that will spoil you

[jaunty night]

7 pages of boss guide is not necessary 😭
It's as simple as figuring out the attacks and learning how to dodge them

[smoky fractal]

I did ask if extremely in depth tips were wanted

[orchid flower]

In principle she’s no different from any other boss, just more of a complex platforming challenge

[neat plank]

Thanks

[vague fern]

trust me. Its happened

[red moss]

where do i get ||quick slash||

[vague fern]

|| kingdoms edge ||

[forest fiber]

How do I do the skip over cellubras shop

[thick wing]

||if u mean the shade skip u get hit by your shade, parry their nail strike and pogo off em until u make it (not a speedrunner i prob gave u wrong instructions)||

[forest fiber]

K

[edgy nacelle]

what skills do you have obtained?

[stray hawk]

Enough ||masks|| for ||hornet 2||?

[thick wing]

||How many do u have without Joni's blessing||

[neat karma]

I would suggest taking out ||jonis blessing its quite awful||

What charms are you using?

[stray hawk]

||joni’s blessing + lifeblood heart||

[neat karma]

Yeah both not good charms

I assume then you have around ||7-8 masks?||

[stray hawk]

I’ll just do my army combo then

[neat karma]

If so thats fine enough for ||hornet 2||

[strange rune]

Guys everything here is blurred out why

[stray hawk]

6

[neat karma]

We use spoiler tags to prevent ruining new players experiences if they come into chat while other people are helping on a part of the game they havent reached

[thick wing]

she's super fast gl with that

[neat karma]

Still doable but one more wouldnt hurt

[stray hawk]

I don’t know where more are

[thick wing]

explore!

[strange rune]

Ok can I turn it off somehow

[thick wing]

part of the game too ya know

[thick wing]

no

[strange rune]

Ok

[stray hawk]

Good combo?

[toxic laurel]

No

[stray hawk]

Ok

[thick wing]

do u want a suggestion?

[stray hawk]

Ok

[thick wing]

||Spell Twister Shaman Stone and any of the 1 Charm Notch Charms||

[stray hawk]

I’ll do ||grubsong|| then

[thick wing]

ok

btw always be on edge she is not gonna cut u a break

[forest fiber]

How the heck do I avoid the spoiler bot

[vague fern]

spoiler your message

?tag spoilers

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[forest fiber]

K

||how do i do shade skip over cellubras shop I've||

[thick wing]

there's prob a guide on youtube somewhere

[forest fiber]

Oh I forgot to change dry

[thick wing]

mb thought it was discussion for some reason

[forest fiber]

Oh

[primal zodiac]

hey fellas

[thick wing]

why u got ur percentages on ur username...?

[primal zodiac]

felt like it

[neat karma]

People like showing off what percentage of the game or achievements theyve done

[primal zodiac]

that also yes

[neat karma]

If you ask me they should all change their name to ismoil instead smh

[primal zodiac]

lol

[hoary anvil]

why not ||nonsenf||

[vague fern]

.?tag uncspoilers

[hoary anvil]

[potent fjord]

How do I get to ||Lauren the watcher|| cos I have the other to ||seals||?

[stray hawk]

Is there a skip for ||hornet 2|| where you still can get ||shade cloak||?

[reef dagger]

no

[tardy siren]

|| Im following a guide but millibelle is still there sitting:

Return to Fog Canyon through the top left exit and cross into the next room over to where Millibelle was to now find her gone. Knock over the bank façade by hitting it with your nail, then leave.

||

[hoary anvil]

the path starts ||almost directly below them at the bottom of the area||

[potent fjord]

Witch ||area? ||

[hoary anvil]

||city||

[potent fjord]

Oh ty

[hoary anvil]

to give any more specific advice i would need to see your map of it (+adjacent areas, and maybe your inventory)

[potent fjord]

Oh I’m not home rn

[civic moth]

guys

som1 there?

[carmine cliff]

is ||hornet 2 hard?||

[civic moth]

||is hornet 2 hard||

[red moss]

where do i find ||quick slash||

[civic moth]

even im on it

[carmine cliff]

idfk

wait

then why did i respond

[red moss]

[civic moth]

sm1 pls reccomend me a charm build

ill share a ss

[carmine cliff]

||shaman ston mark of pride|| idk if too many ||notches||

how is ||notches|| you automaticly have some when you start

[civic moth]

wdym twin

wht r u trynna say cuz

[carmine cliff]

hpw is it a spoiler

[civic moth]

ohhhh

idk

[carmine cliff]

is ||hornet 2|| harder than ||mantis lords without taking a single hit||

[civic moth]

anythn related to the game is a spoiler ig

[civic moth]

prolly

[carmine cliff]

bruh im cooked

[red moss]

||hornet 2|| definitely harder than ||mantis lords||

[civic moth]

||mantis lords|| is rlly ez

[carmine cliff]

ik but wihtout taking hit

so ||radiant||

[vague fern]

yes, || hornet 2 || is way harder

[civic moth]

yo @vague fern

can u suggest a charm build

[vague fern]

what for?

[civic moth]

lemme send ss

||hornet 2||

[carmine cliff]

||hornet my girl||

[vague fern]

|| mark of pride + shaman ||
i will say that you dont really have many charms nor || notches||, so its a good idea to come back with better gear tbh

there is also a super strong in that map area

[civic moth]

like wht

[carmine cliff]

HEY LEBRON

[civic moth]

wht shud i get

yea?

[carmine cliff]

GUES WHAT CHARM BUILD I RECOMMENDED

[civic moth]

what

[carmine cliff]

THE EXACT SAME

AND I M A NOOB THAT PROVES MY Charm KNWOLADGE IS GOOD 🤓

"knwoladge"

quoted by me

[marsh ferry]

How do I censor my words?

[red moss]

||like this||

[carmine cliff]

WTF

||like this||

how did you make is not

blur

[marsh ferry]

How do I get ||infected forgotten crossroads||

[carmine cliff]

mike oxlong

[red moss]

\||like this||

[warped bloom]

||kingdom's edge||

[red moss]

i believe that happens when you ||take out at least one Dreamer||

[red moss]

tahnks

[civic moth]

revo

pls recc me a charm build

[marsh ferry]

What's a ||dreamer||?

[sonic moss]

||dreamer|| or get ||double jump||. maybe even more events that trigger it

[civic moth]

for ||hornet 2||

[warped bloom]

||mark of pride, shaman, fragile strength||

[frosty ocean]

Get more charms

[civic moth]

like which r worth it

[red moss]

eehhhh ||fragile strength will just break though|| most likely.

[frosty ocean]

DUCK

FUCK

[sonic moss]

holy shit it's lune 💪 💪 💪

[warped bloom]

||yeah fair||

[frosty ocean]

that’s what I’m saying bruh

[vague fern]

afternoon

[warped bloom]

they need more charms tho

[marsh ferry]

Does anyone know how I can get a ||pale ore||

[sonic moss]

long time no see friend

[frosty ocean]

I would go collect more charms if I were u

[red moss]

yeah i agree that you should look for more charms and come back later, unless you really wanna stick with it

[carmine cliff]

searcg up skip to get to || radiance statue||

[warped bloom]

|| i think build with steady body, quick slash and mark of pride will be good||

[carmine cliff]

there is you go to the ||randiance statue then it will give 1||

[marsh ferry]

Is it difficult

[frosty ocean]

HELL NAH I SAW A KID WITH A BRAINROT SCHOOL BAG😭

[marsh ferry]

Hell naw man...

[warped bloom]

@civic moth

[lusty anvil]

HELP ME IN ||PANTHEON 3 GPZ||

[carmine cliff]

i dont think it is

just search

[marsh ferry]

Okayy

[red moss]

laughs in ||gold/rad gpz||

[carmine cliff]

how far u into gaem

[civic moth]

ty

[topaz perch]

Is this good build for ||the radiance||

[carmine cliff]

no idea

@marsh ferry was it difficult

[lusty anvil]

reommended charm loadout for ||pantheon 3?||

?

[hearty solar]

my charm build for all the ||pantheons ||was ||shamen stone,unbreakable strenght,quickslash, and longnail||

[hearty solar]

^^

[lusty anvil]

ight ty

[hearty solar]

yup yw

any tips for || pantheon 5||

[hearty solar]

how is the charm build?

[worldly pawn]

Dont die is the best strat

[hearty solar]

noooo

i never would have guessed

[twilit veldt]

||replace MoP by Unbstrength||

[topaz perch]

if you havent noticed, i don't have it

[twilit veldt]

Oh then ||Qslash||

How much money u have rn?

[hearty solar]

but u have ||fragile strength|| ?

why not just use that

[twilit veldt]

It will break

[hearty solar]

if u can get through ||the hollow knight|| before it when u die to ||radiance|| it is in the dream world and wont break

but if u arent confident in the fight before ||radiance|| then yeah ig

and it can always be repaired for a little bit a geo its not the biggest deal

[twilit veldt]

Nah man it still breaks iirc

[hearty solar]

ur right i jsut looked it up mb

its been a while since i played tbh

[twilit veldt]

It's fine

[hearty solar]

still its only like 350 geo to repair

[worldly pawn]

The thing is if you can keep geo on you without dieing;)

[safe scarab]

change ||mark of pride for quick slash, you don't really need range in this fight||

[rose sphinx]

||is deepnest farm the best geo farm in the late game||

[primal harbor]

Go to ||Kingdoms Edge and farm hoppers. Deepnest ain't worth it 😭😭||

[red cairn]

What do you even farm there?

[primal harbor]

Idk

[rose sphinx]

they say dnest is ffaster

[red cairn]

It isnt

[clever trench]

||Trial of the fool or even trial of the conqueror is way better isn’t it||

[primal harbor]

They lying

[red cairn]

That and ||hoppers|| give more

[primal harbor]

If you want, yeah. But ||hoppers|| are the safe option. They each drop 16, you can find a lot, and they don't attack you.

[rose sphinx]

||so no.1 is colle , 2nd is hoppers, 3rd is dnest? ||

[red cairn]

And they don't need bench

[primal harbor]

Just don't bother farming Geo there, bro

[rose sphinx]

|| the great hoppers?||

[rose sphinx]

why

[red cairn]

Smaller

[primal harbor]

No the small ones

[primal harbor]

It's cramped, it's scary, and the enemies are stingy

[red cairn]

Not good geo

[rose sphinx]

|| where exactly in edge, theres many hopper location theere||

|| the room above the great hoppers?||

[red cairn]

Also, ||hoppers is faster since you don't have to bench to respawn them, and you just need to kill the first few and leave the room||

[clever trench]

||I remember grinding that fat guy near crossroads stag for lumafly lantern on my first run 😭 ||

[red cairn]

Bottom

[red cairn]

I did the same ngl

[clever trench]

Top near the ||colo||

[primal harbor]

They're in almost every room towards the bottom right and middle

[red cairn]

No

[primal harbor]

[clever trench]

Idk maybe I’m misremembering it’s been a ||year||

[primal harbor]

The ||Husk Guard||?

[red cairn]

You are, it's ||straight down from the tall room, for a nail master, Oro I think||

[primal harbor]

Correct. And you can also find a ton on the path to ||Markoth||

[red cairn]

Yea, but its faster to just do the starting ones

[clever trench]

||Markoth radiant|| was a pain in the ass

[primal harbor]

You can do a back and forth, I guess.

[red cairn]

Up to the ||primal aspid||

[red cairn]

Maybe killing those might be good aswell since it resets the room

[rose sphinx]

this hallway chat?

[primal harbor]

Yeah

[red cairn]

Ye

Anyways, I'm gone, break over

[rose sphinx]

so imma go || from bench to the left then coem back||

[red cairn]

Don't need to bemch

[primal harbor]

No, dodging the ||Great Hoppers|| would be a pain in the ass. Just leave the room and come back

[rose sphinx]

||so from the right entrance up until the small ones in the middle then go back to the right entrance?||

|| this faster than colle and dnest right||

[primal harbor]

Yes

[primal zodiac]

hey fellas

[primal harbor]

Although you could do ||Colo|| if you're confident you can win every time

[primal harbor]

wsp

[primal zodiac]

im bored

if someone needs help

please tell me

[primal harbor]

Someone will come around eventually

[rose sphinx]

|| collo 2 is annoying asf for me havent even beaten it yet ||

|| that great hopper in a tight room with you is so ahh||

[royal hull]

||there's always colo 1||

[primal zodiac]

ikrrr :)

[rose sphinx]

|| wdythink is faster colle 1 or this edge hopper strat or dnest||

[primal harbor]

Bro's still on ||Deepnest|| 😭

[primal zodiac]

whats the problem

[vague fern]

|| colo 1 is incredibly slower than hoppers. colo 2 is still slower but its good ||

[primal zodiac]

love your name me too

[vague fern]

only had one person use it in a debate so far, bit disappointing

[rose sphinx]

😭

CUZ I WANNA KNOW WHATS FASTER MATHEMATHICALLY

[primal zodiac]

what do you mean

[primal zodiac]

chill mate

[vague fern]

|| hoppers is like 30k/h, colo 2 is like ~20k/h depending on clear speed, deepnest idk but its around colo 2 iirc ||

[primal harbor]

It's scawy

[primal harbor]

We told you bro

[primal zodiac]

bruh 😭

[vague fern]

half the reason i made it my name is so that people make their own points and opinions without assuming better player = correct.

that also leads into people using it as a way to say theyre better to make their point, which has only happened once sadly

[primal harbor]

Damn, bro did the math

[vague fern]

other people have done the math, i just remember the numbers

[primal zodiac]

oh dam good point (never trashtalk)

[primal harbor]

I see

[rose sphinx]

OKAYY

[rose sphinx]

|| so this small hooppers are the fastest||

[royal hull]

||but like in quick session, like just getting 9000, which will be faster?||

[vague fern]

if you're using a good route, yes

[vague fern]

|| hoppers||, the route itself is under 15s

[primal zodiac]

dayum 🙏

[royal hull]

||damn, always thought colo was the best||

[primal zodiac]

ofc not

[vague fern]

most people do but theyre both great

[primal harbor]

the fuck 😭
I need the full story behind this

[vague fern]

#hk-discussion message

short one

dunno what made them say that, maybe they looked at the video in my bio

[rose sphinx]

|| from right entrance to the middle then go back||

[vague fern]

i think thats it, potential charm spoilers but i just go off this video ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2EihyH1Jjg||

[primal harbor]

More or less

[rose sphinx]

oHHH okay

ill just include the top loop up to the middle

[primal zodiac]

||always use greed and the money magnet thingy||

[primal harbor]

That too, forgot to mention that

[rose sphinx]

|| how do i make my energy ball black? theres upgrade?||

[primal zodiac]

you need ||elegant key from sly|| in ||city of tears behind the locked door||

[safe scarab]

go to the ||city with elegant key||

[rose sphinx]

|| how hard is the boss? is he harder than watcher kngihts||

[primal zodiac]

its a ||soul guy youve fought one be4 dw ||

[rose sphinx]

okayy

|| soul master boss is prob much harder||

[primal zodiac]

ikr

its a diff variation but you will be alr

[royal hull]

||where would Spores rank in a tierlist? Considering how you get it/early too||

[vague fern]

if its just a tier list of how strong it is, very very low

the lowest tier that isnt inhibiting

[royal hull]

||Heavy blow low or?||

[vague fern]

same tier if not one higher, depends how you rank

Both have just as low benefits, but || heavy blow || can be inhibiting

[royal hull]

||Strength early on, how early/late you get, and then how it scales long game||

[vague fern]

both low enough where differentiating them is kinda pointless

[royal hull]

||I'm gonna rank spores a little higher because you don't need walljump + geo for it||

[vague fern]

rank it based on your opinion, tier lists get repetitive when people conform

[primal harbor]

You'll have to fight that ||teleporting guy with the nail|| again

[primal harbor]

We rating from S to F or what

[grand geyser]

2hp vs ||sly||😭

[royal hull]

||S to F yeah||

[marsh ferry]

Yes ;-;

[primal harbor]

I'd give it like a C tier. I don't care for it much, but it can be fun ig

[royal hull]

||so far killed soul master, the hollow knight, the lost kin, Hornet 1 and brooding mulawk or whaever, what other boss is stationary enough for spores to be... Uh usable at best||

[royal hull]

aight

[primal harbor]

||Crystal Guardian||? Idk if he wakes up from it or not. Although you probably won't be able to heal enough times anyway.

[topaz sparrow]

Personally it's like E (if you include it in the tiers) or low D. It's quite useless in combat if not negative. Might help some in early game but didn't do much for me. Funny for a meme build

[primal harbor]

I guess that makes sense. Although it can be fun to use sometimes. Combining it with ||DCrest|| and farting all over enemies is kinda funny

[topaz sparrow]

No he won't wake up if you ||get the dream nail first. You can continuously dream nail and heal and damage him using the spores||

[topaz sparrow]

Yea fr

[primal harbor]

Maybe you can use it against ||Flukemarm|| too.

[fast nebula]

any strats to ||p5||?

[vague fern]

boss specific, just practise in || hog || and run a good charm build

[fast nebula]

what charm build should i run?

[shut sparrow]

||strength, qslash, shaman, steady body, grubsong/nailmaster's glory/dream wielder imo||

[golden flower]

yawn
can we get a tag for this

[vague fern]

i cant open ||n||onsenfs message but do what he says

[vague fern]

Wait so true

[shut sparrow]

||I said hiveblood, Joni's, thorns, gathering swarm and overcharm with heart||

[vague fern]

|| no sshadow, seems viable ||

[fast nebula]

pretty fire ngl

[shut sparrow]

hi lune and teqnok

and Daniel

[golden flower]

Hello nomsenf

[vague fern]

||n|| o ||n|| s ||e|| n ||f||

[shut sparrow]

[vague fern]

keeping the habit up

I lose all my pride when i get spoiler botted w your name