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It depends of the goal
To spoiler something you have to put it between ||
Mk
Like this : | | this is a spoiler | | ( without the spaces)
|| which ones are good to be got home like 34 and five||
Not ones charms
Cause I haven’t beat three yet
Then it depends of the boss you're going after, or of the || pantheon you're going for ||, as swell as your playstyle( || nail oriented or charm oriented, or a defensive one, or an hybrid ||)
||strength+quickslash+flex||
Flex
means use whatever you want
||chat, sorry for breaking in the convo, i'm trying pantheon 5, and i can beat absolutely everything near 100% of the time. Except the Markoth + Zote combo. It's just impossible for me, i'm beating absolute rad more consistently than zote, and markoth robs my health away just before it, so i'm just stuck lol. Any guidance||
Ok
Do you mean || pantheons||? Then I'd say it's mainly training
Yes
||try getting the gold zote statue to master him||
whats the ||markoth|| strategy?
|| I don’t really like to do the training. I just like to try my best. I believe I’ve gotten past Grimm in pantheon three it’s just I don’t remember what comes after him and I suck at doing whatever comes after him.||
after ||grimm its bench, galien, zote, uumuu, hornet sentinel||
||hornet 2, uumuu and the final p3 boss come from the top of my bead||
Ohh
|| I hate those bosses, especially hornet phase 2 she kicked my butt over 100 times the first time I fought her in the kingdom’s edge||
practice is about all you can do if you want to clear it
Well you can skip the training and train using only || the pantheon ||, but it'll be way longer ass you'll have to defeat the same easy bosses each time
what does that mean
|| if hornet had a hoodie wouldn’t like be skin tight on her horns, where the outline of her horns are showing, but they’re not showing they’re covered by the hoodie or would her horns not be showing and be like a droop, barely showing in the head of the hoodie||
guees what copmes next :D
|| is that nightmare, King Grimm, or a regular grim I’ve never beat nightmare king grim||
You’re unbelievably cooked
|| pure vessel is does to damage every single hit on top of really frustrating and annoying tax on top of not tax attack attacks and absolute radius is the hardest boss in the entire game in my opinion||
||dawg how in the world do u get past markoth and zote||
Yhghhhhv
like i don't get it lol
||pure vessel unlike absrad is purely a skill check unlike absrad orb rng||
Oh still really hard
||goto dirthmouth and try clearing the zote statue in brettas house to the highest you can is the best practice||
My main goal of the entire game is to 112% it
accualy no tthat hard
🙏
||tbf as much as i like nkg, once u figured out how to dodge his attacks once, u can beat the entire fight w ease, because he does the same thing over and over, abs rad at least forces u to react to different situations on the fly||
Why are you sending shitposts in the help channel
Cuz I can
||still that orb attack causes me indescribable paib||
U want me to stop?
As its against the rules, yes
last phase might cook bro
it's my personal favourite phase tbf
||atm climb is what gets me||
||ive managed to somewhat consistently do second phase||
||always end up dying to a stray laser during the climb||
Kk
||im usually very good at it, you want to stay on rhythm w her lasers and try to get up as quick as possible. once she starts tracking u, u want to jump away from the platform u want to reach and shadow dash there.||
||yeah my attempts at her have been on and off so im not actively trying atm (only got a few lucky attempts in HOG to beat her)||
it starts off really inconsistent, and you'll never get truly consistent because rng is a pain, but you will get used to her eventually, you don't need reliance on luck
i have already ||beat most of the bosses on radiant, asides from markoth and abs rad, as well as the pale court bosses, but i tried any radiance and she absolutely cooked me||
so i want to know if any of you know of bosses that are a little harder than normal ones
Maybe check the ||modded bosses|| if you can handle them.
||Boundless infinity|| looks phenomenal
good for|| colloseum 3||?
||generally for the colo you want to focus more on nailarts and spells. Yes, even if you're not a spell user||
||I'd recommend something like shaman, twister, nailmaster's glory, shape of unn, weaversong, grubsong||
||im a spell user if needed, never used a nail art in my life.||
||other charms like soul catcher, dream wielder or quick focus are very awesome as well though||
like this?
||both are incredibly strong. Great and dash slash onehit many of the annoying enemies. Such as primal aspids. So it's always recommended to charge one pretty much whenever you aren't attacking||
||this is good. Though, since strength doesn't affect nailarts or spells, which should be your main source of damage ideally, it's not as strong as it usually is. It's fine, but shape of unn + grubsong/dream wielder or quickfocus would probably be stronger||
||expect it to take a few attempts to get used to though. You really need to get the hang of using a lot of your soul for spells and healing. You get used to the nailarts pretty quickly if you remember to always charge them||
there
looks good 
||im used to spells, used them until i got unbreakable strength||
||that's good. Then it's just nailarts||
||will dreamshield, defenders crest, and spell twister be somewhat ok for broken vessel||
||dream shield is horrible. The rest is fine||
||I'd probably use something for spells instead||
||I ain’t even gonna listen to you tbh because dreamshield has clutched most of my boss fights||
then why are you asking?
well I was mainly just making sure ||defenders crest|| was ok
Ok well im not that great sooo
-# probably because of ||dream shield||
What’s wrong about ||dream shield||
please use spoiler tags in this channel
Whats wrong with it?!?!
Yeah, what’s wrong with it?
it's bad
No, it’s amazing
can you please edit this message
Always the pros thinking everything sucks cause they can solo bosses with literally nothing
Just kidding it’s really bad. I just like giving it some love.
Like please people understand me
it objectively sucks over pretty much any other option
if its worked for you sure use it
why are you asking "pros" for advice if you think "pros" suck at giving advice. Go ahead, ask in #hk-meme or something
Still I just want the pros to understand people who are bad, now ima just leave before I start drama
No no it is normal
Now yall have a good day I’ll be out
Okkk
you still haven't edited this
Ohhh
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|| Absrad's || climb is so hard for me for some reason. It's like she predicts where im gonna be like 2 seconds into the future || I can beat her ALMOST consistently, i remember going into the climbing phase with 2 masks missing and still dying. ||
Give me a minute and I can help you with this
Any tips for the third trail at ||coliseum of fools||
Mainly the one where I have to stay on the walls and no platforms
Just stay ||clinged to the wall, nail arts can one shot most enemies, and you can also use shade soul to hit them easily||
|| You can try dream nailing the garpedes, for the boss at the end kill the big guy first as they have less health, For the one with no floor get rid of the aspids first and the battle obbles || (If you have trouble with projectiles like i do)
Ok so, ||first the climb works by AbsRad picking a random spot some degrees away from you in either direction
By the nature of arcs, the closer you are to AbsRad the smaller it is, meaning less area to hit and a bigger % covered by you, so more likely||
This also means the higher you are the more accurate they are
Also is the nail with 2 ||pale ore|| good or should I get the final one first
So that means to move a little bit more when i get near her? i usually try speedrunning the climb because i panic so much
yeah, baiting it out near the top is consistent
||At the beginning they are super random and the best way to climb is to first see where they land, and then decide to either
- Walk away if it's in you
- Wait if the beam is in the next platform
- Go on if the beam is anywhere else||
Ty! i'll do another || absrad || attempt rn
If ||the beam falls between you and the next platform you can dash through||
||The closer you are the more accurate they are so you can begin predicting super reliably, it is consistent enough that you can just develop a flow for yourself||
|| The thing is that i usually panic so i use up my dash and double jump without thinking ||
Ty :D
Do a lot of ||hog practice so you can learn it without any pressure
Always use wings into the new platform, only dash if needed because it can set you too far away from the path||
Once you're comfortable ||it will be easier in the pantheon
But nerves never really go away||
Just try to stick with your flow
||This is probably the best demonstration of all of this in action I have
https://youtu.be/bLoOxmEQDd4?t=53m38s||
Pantheon 5 with all bindings with double damage active (ascended), done in 14 hits
This took a good amount of tries, but after r04 gpz and a good 04 Markoth practice I did this first try (well, past P1)
In the SoB hit by telefrag I realized I had Infinite HP on and took my hp away with debug
It is always good seeing other clears to get a feel of tactics
(Tried it and i actually beat her first try :D)
I do it fast because I'm comfortable but you can take it slower
Nice!! Gg
Tysm!
guys, i got 100 ||Essence||, but now the npc is asking me for 200
Whats the issue
more ||essence|| is more rewards
i dont know what to do or where to go
Continue like nothing happened, take a look at your map and go to unexplored exits
i cant find them
You'll ge||t more essence eventually ||
im walking in circles
Can you send a screenshot of your inventory and map
Is there any charm layout for ||watcher knights||
What charms do you have
More or less ||spells are really good for them so anything that boosts spells||
||Well there are multiple places you can go
- Further deepnest in
- Area under city
Are the main 2||
thanks
||Any tips on fighting Abs Rad 2nd phase? She throws multiple moves at once and I have no idea what to do at all. 2 weeks and the only thing stopping me in P5 is Radiance with a loss ratio of 90+ losses 0 wins. On top of that, I can barely see any move. I just find it how a cheap boss like this is put as the last challenge||
I assume you are already practicing|| in hall of gods?||
ppl i need help
for some reason i got the collectors map
||and as i was getting all the grubs once i notices that i didn't have any more grubs i went to grub father but found out i'm still missing a few grubs||
Best || charm build to beat P3? Here are my charms btw ||
||quickslash strength shaman steadybody grubsong||?
||Yea, that's where most losses came. Cannot beat the Ascended version at all||
||In p5, cannot even reach 2nd stage without being killed by really cheap moves she throws.||
||Easily one of my top 3 worst designed boss idc what anyone says. It's not fun, most moves are guess works and sometimes it's just RNG what she throws next or if I am allowed to even hit her||
||Worst of all, it's my last achievement before I have all on steam. And it's really brain tickling to see that 52 out of 53 for 2 weeks let me tell ya 🪬||
||Are you struggling due to the low reaction to the moves? Most of the attacks can be dodged with ddark, as well as listening out for the various sound cues||
||Yes, I can't react to the beams or the orbs at all. Ddive is inconsistent for me, sometimes I get hit during the endlag of the animation (supposed part which has i frames to begin with)
It's really off putting as 2 weeks is an insane amount of time IMO for just trying Ascended version||
||Hm do you know quick dive tech? So a short jump before using it is faster than using on the ground||
generally you want to get away from any danger as quickly as possible by utilising the iframes
if you just stay there or land in one of her attacks without moving you're gonna get hit
I mean thats obvious right 
yeah
some people dont realise though
and end up getting hit anyways
a lot of people think the iframes last way longer than they actually do
Thanks, but doesn't help with any randomness with the fight itself
Ig just tough it out until I get lucky
for first phase, you can generally just run under the orbs and they'll hit the floor and disappear without homing in on you
for the later phases you can ||dash|| through them, but i'm not as sure since i also struggle with those towards the end of the fight
Nice! Good job dude
Congrats
||Hm do you know quick dive tech? So a short jump before using it is faster than using on the ground||
||Yes, but again I find it not that useful in my attempts. I get hit afterwards due to the side swords or suns||
how do i get thru this wall need help asap
gotta go from ||ancient basin||
whaa
oh shit mb you dont have that area?
Show inv
i do i js don know how
yeah show inventory
...
Uh oh
???
<@&283547423706447872>
Yere
they evolved already?
Yes
???????????????????????
It seems so
we can’t win
whereererer
they're gonna post ascii now
surely we block the ASCII characters so nobody can type anything 
Yall have any build ideas for the ||hollow knight to radiance||?
Im helping my friend now
how many ||notches do they have and how many charms are the missing? if u could, send a ss||
theyre posting ASCII scams now??????????
||charm build for Trial of the Fool?||
He has ||11 notches||
||also has voidheart||
alr then use ||unb strength, shaman, qs, spell twister||
spam ||abyss shriek||
Hold down and tap F
Any tips for the ||enraged guardian||
Not working
You need enough soul
What charms you got
Fuck
That goes for all ||spells||
Did you just beat ||soul master||
Yes
Nvm just beat him ty though
nah man your respawn point will be next to his corpse
What

Trust me. I tried
You should take note of that place though
It may be important later
What's the most amount the main masks I can get
Once you ||absorb desolate dive|| your game autosaves to that point iirc
||9||
Ty
Oog
I'm trying to the max before I try the ||third trial|| again
Good call
Without charms 9
With charms you can get a max of 11 normal masks
does not include ||lifeblood||
How am I supposed to enter again I already put ||city crest||
Did I just get soft locked
uh
WHAT
u can claw up
There’s an opening up
Have u given the crest?
oh
u can restart
go to main menu
Nvm I found way
I went to ||forgotten crossroads|| directly with a ||lift|| so I think I can enter again with it
Where do I find the ||vessel fragment|| in the nest
k
It is behind a breakable wall
Is this ||amulet|| configuration good?
its ok you could use it
although ||quick slash|| is best used with ||steady body||
Okay, I'm having trouble defeating the ||radiance||.
ok thanks
oh in that case no ||steady body|| needed
Okay
just go with your current setup
Okay, thank you again.
Any tips for the dream version of the ||failed knight||
||what are the intervals to heal in during the nkg fight? i feel like apart from the stagger theres no way to heal during the fight||
||While he’s staggered you can hit the armor to reset the stagger time and get infinite soul with the dream nail||
He will always follow-up with a shockwave slam when he leaps backwards, sometimes doing it twice in a row
Ok ty
There’s a easy heal u can perform in ||ground spikes and flame pillars to my knowledge, technically I think u can heal on every move if ur timing is good and positioning is good||
im a bit late but ||shape of unn|| really carries with ||nkg|| you can heal during the flame pillar attack (and apparently the bat attack, but i never tried the bat heal)
Breakable wall above the entrance if you keep going
Why are the messages GREY
THIS IS SO AGGRIVATING
pretty sure u need to ||c dash and double jump||
stupid spoilerbot makes you cover any spoilers even when basically everyone has beaten the game
i guess a littler
little
some people dont know the ||pure vessel|| is a fight so they make u spoilmark it
which is really stupid
Modmail is a bot i fear
Are you a mod
But no the bot isnt going anywhere
Cya
Godamnit
It helps enforce the channel.rules
No other channel has the bot though
Sevvel
Well sorry thats not the bots fault
is this a good setup for ||markoth radiant||?
might swap ||elegy and longnail|| for ||mop and catcher||
I mean it’s not necessarily bad
||kingsoul|| i heard is great for this and it makes sense cuz you dont have to risk getting hit by the ||dream shield(s)||
The way I fight ||Markoth|| is pretty much independent of all charms except ||shaman stone||
So im not entirely sure how to recommend stuff
alr
ima try this first and if it doesnt work then ill try the original
i beat him ||ascended|| first try on ||shaman twister kingsoul grubsong||. now for ||radiant||
do you have ||goam|| and ||garpede||
I just got em
hm
i hate to give this answer since the entire reason this channel exists is so that players dont have to do this but id honestly just check the wiki
Another commonly missed one is ||void tendrils||
Do you have ||duranda and durandoo||?
Yes
||golden husk||?
The only things there I don't have are these idk
Yes
You should use hollowknight.wiki
Those don’t contribute so you’re clearly missing other ones haha
Not fandom wiki
yeah fandom is very unreliable
You might have forgotten ||flukemunga||
just wiki is the main one
Quote
just drop your save into this website and it will tell you what youre missing
How do I do that
you're on pc or switch?
Pc
go to the website, click choose save file, navigate to C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\ (your save file).dat
double click on this (your save file).dat and you can see it
then go to ||journal|| on the website
Thanks king
It was ||the crystal crawler
||
Didn't even know those could be killed
The more u know ig
Aw I shoulda said those
woaw is that lily
Hi!
hai!!
Omg spol!
Hai genio 
Hi lily 
hai genio
You don't know about the list?
It should be here somewhere
||Hunters journal||
Commonly missed enemies
||- Goam
- Mossy Vagabond
- Aluba
- Charged Lumafly
- Gorgeous Husk
- Crystal Crawler
- Garpede
- Pale Lurker
- Flukemunga
- Void Tendrils
- Durandoo
- Duranda
- Maggot
If you don't know where one of these enemies are, check out this video https://youtu.be/3R7TG5PCjUc||
Wtf it’s u guys hello
Help Avengers assemble
Lmao discord mobile acting up again all the replied replies are incorrect
Ah it’s fixed itself now
Dang
No time to take a ss
nah I’m not a helper
Can u help me I cripple my back
I retired last year
Uncripple
No
Weh
You're unretired
Oh u meant spol
Nuh uh
Yuh
Never heard of the sequel ‘hk free tips’ is it fun
Oh no I forgot to spoiler

Let's eat grandma
Yes
Peak
What are some easy dream version of bosses
Well if you’re looking for easy stuff that might not be a good idea haha
I wouldnt call any of them ‘easy’
I need some dream item things and want to easiest to fight
What
Well the two people typical claim as easiest are ||soul master and broken vessel||, but it varies
||imo the easier dream boss would be tyrant or fc ||
Depends on the person
I already beat them
Normally it would just be ||soul master and the others are harder||
Then you’ve got all the hard ones left
What's ||fc||
Sorry not sorry
Ok good to know
||False knight’s but someone calling him easy is pretty deranged||
That’s not at all typical
He wasn't that bad tbh
Most people use the cheese that's why
hey can i have some help with ||watcher knights?||
@orchid flower
Oh hi herb 
I saw, thank you!
You can heal if you can get them both far away
They’ll walk onscreen before going for you
||i’ve fought him charmless without cheesing
||
What charms you usin
Hi genio go sleep 
Nice
ok so dont judge but i use ||mark of pride, soul catcher and spore shroom||
Don’t use the last two charms
You’re likely going to own better ones
like what?
i cant screenshot but i can just name them out
Okay
this might take a lil bit
It’s okay I’ll say hi again to make up for it

ok so i have ||Stalwart Shell, soul catcher Shaman stone, Dash master, sprint master, Fragile heart, spell twister, heavy blow, Longnail, mark of pride, Fury of the fallen, baldur shell, Defenders crest, lifeblood heart, dreamshield, nailmasters glory and spore shroom. By the way i have 6 notches||
Buy another ||charm notch|| if you can
And especially ||shaman stone||
Ok you have it
For now just use ||mark of pride and shaman stone|| i guess
ok
problem is (and im trying to use it more) i dont reallly use ||spells|| bc im always low hp
yo can anyone tell me || how many zotes you need to kill in the eternal ordeal to unlock the menu style ||
|| ja I really struggled with using spells I much prefer nail builds ||
57
The amount of ||precepts he has (57)||
erb
Guys ||how many Masks dose zote damage you in the last fight?||
Welp guess i might never continue him
Or maybe i will do after ||pure Vessel and p4||
Who knows
No way hi
tso66
where do i find ||the guy that sells u rancid eggs in junk pit|| ive found him before but now im lost
||Its top right of royal waterways||
ok thx
dont buy them🙏
||radiant zote is a different level of flexing fr||
Y not
||Broken Vessel|| down 🔥. I have taken the ||Monarch Wings||
why would you buy them
|| if ur shade is in some very annoying area and u want to summon it ||
Maybe he needs them for ||Jiji||
but can't you just buy them from ||Sly||?
you can find way more than enough bro
i have like 8 in my inventory since 2024
That's assuming people explore and don't just rush
if you rish you dont need eggs
if you do you shouldnt rush
||what charms are best for nosk, dunno how but nosk has me kinda stuck||
Never mind I got him
gg
That might be a mod issue
U can edit sable
savefile
||Kinda sounds stupid but shape of unn lets you heal a lot in the infection blob rain attack that he does, so it's worth to try||
If u want
I kinda just hid in a corner and won tbh
edit savefile? wdym
That is the ||nosk|| cheese
Only works on pc
like
Hk stores its data in a json file
If they have mods they can edit it
Yes
iirc
how do i edit it
I didnt have that context
or that
Guys, what do y'all suggest I do first? ||Hornet 2|| or ||Deepnest||?
im having some issue with ||Markoth|| in the ||Pantheon of Hallownest||
do you guys have any wisdom to share with me 🙏
either is fine
both lead to progression
and ur gonna have to do both either way
|| deepnest || for || tram pass and hell ||, || hornet 2 fkr fun ||
Practice him ||ascended in hall of gods||
I guess I'll do ||Hornet 2|| first since I'm already down in ||Ancient Basin||
And dont touch the flo9r
|| hornet 2 would get you access to the abyss which would make things easier with shade cloak id recommend you do hornet 2 first ||
man
like
unnecessary spoilers
that's actually a good idea, somehow didn't think of that
@polar flicker do we still do that
Why did you click it
?tag saveedit
Editing save files
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- MoreSaves Mod | Install
- With the MoreSaves mod installed, you can edit save files from the in-game Menu. Either from the Main Menu or Pause Menu, go to Options > Mods > MoreSaves to edit save files in game.
- QoL mod | Install
- If you open a save file with QoL installed, you'll have an extra file called
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- While not an intended purpose, you can edit some parts of your save file using Debug, such as Nail Damage, and those changes will remain even after uninstalling the mod.
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Oh for the others
is it something major?
Yea trrue
Do what?
u don’t need to mention ||the abyss and shade cloak||
Yes
uncspoilers
Yes
oh cool
?tag uncspoilers
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My goat ❤️
top tier tag
Don’t click on it :3
oh, okay
Or you just edit it away now
Also, one more thing. What does dropping the ||Geo|| to the ||Pale King|| do? I don't wanna waste 1400 Geo
In summary they were saying ||hornet leads to progression||
okay
gives u smth after an amount
so thats how i edit my savfile?
Follow the instructions
Can you mark the fight on the map? I kinda don't know where it is
||it's required for smth||
nevermind, i found it
It gives a ||permanent upgrade||
If you spend a total of 3k
How do I get this ||grub||
Top left corner of the big room below you, go up from there
|| or if you have dash slash, dash slash against the wall ||
Just like
practice ig?
There’s not much to the boss
It’s rlly just dodging lasers
U can come back later if ur struggling ig
spoiler tag ||hk|| please cause of th context
Anyways
Could u send a screenshot of ur charm list
best build for ||coliseum 3||?
How do I put spoiler tag?
|| hello ||. ||hello||
without the space
nvm
|| hello ||
nvm
||
What word do you use?
IIhelloII
np
Man, I think I found a strat for ||crystal guardian||. So if you wanna use it, then go to a wall and you just need to dodge the lasers shot directly by him. If he does that thing where he screams then: you can attack him or heal
i’m on phone idk how to
Literally what ur currently running lol
There is more to him that may not be available to u yet
||guys can debug mod change change charm notches?||
yo bro
||can debug mod change charm notches||
No
i think you have to do that manually in the game files right?
yeah u can i fxed it
I thought they meant how much a ||charm costs, that has to be edited manually yeah||
ooh alr
Got to ||the radiance's|| phase 2 finally
lock in you got this
lol well done mate
good luck
Ty
Ty
|| how many staggers does it take to kill hollow knight am i close to killing him when he starts stabbing himself ||
||depends how many nail upgrades you have||
YESSS
You did it?
yes
Good job champ
|| can i skip credits somehow ||
Don't think so, but not sure
They are pretty short
||where does the nails guy go after you spare him||
||greenpath nail master sheo||
||artist guy?||
yes, only if you visited him before which you seem to have done
|| what do i need to activate the radiance boss ||
||What items do you have now?||
are ||oro/mato and god tamer|| only in ||godhome?||
||Oro and mato are, but god tamer can be fought in Colosseum||
Dont mention things they havent reached yet
How much|| essence do you have||
||1.4k||
You need a bit more
No then you can access something which is step 1 out of 4 to activate it
I'll get more trys on ||the radiance|| tomorrow
||would it be considered cheating using a health bar for enemies i dont want to cheat ||
Think there are mods for that
It is not intended by team cherry and it makes it a little easier, so it could be considered cheating yes
If you care about that is up to you
I wouldn't say so
i can get achievements stil right
Not really. It’s just QoL
Yes, although that's true for practically all mods
how do you make the ||fragile charms unbreakable || and do they count in the completion percentage ?
whats qol
Quality of life
How far are you in the ||grimm troupe ||
And no they do not
Pretty late game, literally one of the last things i did
i fought him once, it said to collect more fire stuff for the bird or wtv its called
||Equip the fragile charm you want to turn unbreakable and go into the smaller tent||
||does count dracula have low health||
Not really
she ate it
Keep talking to her
yep

||can you show your map? Maybe Ship can give a place to farm geo||
i have all the map open
||the colo of fools are great places for geos, pick the one that gives the most geo you can consistently beat||
ohhh right i forgot about that
thanks
What the fuck
I downloaded the ||mantis gods|| mod
And I thought I was fighting all of them in the first phase
Turns out that was just one of them
I am never going to beat these guys holy
Nah i figured the downloading out
what are you on about
noone has ever defeated an ||primal aspid||
he is TOO hard
||who all can i give the delicate flower to? AND ||
||i want ending #5 so do i have to give the flower b4 beating p5?||
(ping me when yo answer)
|| elderbug, nailmaster oro, the godseeker, and then emilitia + white lady although they decline it. yes you have to deliver the flower before beating p5 but it doesnt have to be your first p5 completion ||
How you enjoying mods?
chat what do I do?
Man, ||Hornet 2|| is fucking me up rn 💀
get 3000 and then do it unless you dont prioritize ||soul||
i know right... first question. might seem obvious but did you realize you can get rid of the spike balls
i did not...
thanks 😭
youre welcome!
neither lol
idrc anyway so
i still love you, random discord person
call me what you wish
thank you
get a few more geo, but if you've already bought everything in this zone just go ahead and drop it all
then get some more and drop again
Attack dodge attack dodge worked so well with me
Pls help me i am stuck on|| fluke warm|| it's so strong
i dont really have anyone tips besides the fact she shows where her babies will spawn before they do. also shes not required
If you’re near the end of the game ||put 3000 geo in the fountain. If not, save your geo since it can be spend way better||
Can you oneshot the ||babies||? If not come back later
Chat, I think I'll get the ||spell upgrades|| first and then come back to the fight
can some one help me with ||pure vessel||
Oooooh what attacks are you struggling with?
what level ||is your nail||
almost no boss is required
||hornet, uumuu, watcher knights||?
||hornet is optional, the rest isnt||
not including skips or glitches. seriously, what did you think i was talking about?
||Thk||
i said almost bro obv the final boss is required😭✌️
lmao
“he is saying smth different from me, must be ragebait”
watch low% speedrun. with skips and glitches, ||hornet can be entirely skipped||
you can easily skip her
while viably beating the game? sure, but you have to be super good.
yeah but from a casual player's standpoint
uou really dont
ok ragebait
i am no expert in low% and its not that hard bro
yeah no dont do it if youre casual 😭😭
no reason bro, im js saying you can skip her
have you ever run low% lulz
if you are a casual player you're most definitely going to do a lot of bosses for the abilities they guard
||hornet, soul master, dung defender, broken vessel||
||if we count major glitches then every boss except thk is skippable||
cave story peak btw great taste
im not in the mood for this sort of discussion rn 😭
anyhoot, ||flukemarm|| isnt required to beat the game
all im saying
yeah and i said im not in the mood for this kind of discussion.
guys is ||broken vessel in ancient basin supposed to be a hard boss?||
what's your ||nail upgrades||
not really
hard to say
||yesn't||
- their attacks are HEAVILY telegraphed.
- they are vulnerable to knockback and staggers, ||vengeful spirit with shaman stone can hit them twice||
- ||desolate dive|| is a strong ability
I kinda first try beat it so i was wondering if I've 'actually gotten good at this game the boss was just easy'
||probably the first or you got lucky with the moves||
||cuz Ship got really lucky with it just slamming the orange||
||neither did Ship||
also do I need to defeat it in ||dream world?||
||are you going for 112%||
completely optional
but its helpful for a % (not required)
guess ill skip it then
||then no, it COULD help with something but it isn't required||
like i dont want to miss out on something huge
but if its optional
its okay to skip
||it gives essance, just not required||
how much?
pretty sure 300
you'll definitely need to beat some ||dream versions for awoken dream nail and 2400 essence||
||they aren't planned to do 112% so dream nail is the only thing needed||
depends
it gives the most amount of ||essence|| out of any boss
||not even radiance?||
||pretty sure you can get awaken without the lost kin||
you only need enough ||essence||
||i mean, you def can, cus all dream bosses net you around 3000 essence||
What
don't they
If you include || dream warriors || then its 2700
if that's what you mean
But || dream bosses || is 1600
Theyre about 500 iirc so yeah
okay, that makes more sense actually
||you aren't required to dreamnail the singer right? You could just enjoy her song?||
i was just going off how much ||essence|| i have, without thinking ||dream warriors and trees||
correct
||What causes fragile flowers t o reset on the grave + and is gettign essance from enemies chances?||
yay 
for ||fragile flower||, you can't take damage or use ||stag stations||, as for enemies, i think it's .2% normally, and .5% with ||dreamwielder||
||no- as in r eset AFTER getting it and it being back on the vine, sorry for the confusion
||
oh, sorry
idk then, i haven't bothered bringing the flower to the other npcs
i prob should though
once you plant it, it starts growing
im a little confused on the question
||what causes it to grow back like uhhh, after you pick it up, does leaving respawn it? Dying? Dreamgate tping? Bench?||
I am just kidding easiest boss ever
Id assume its just benching
but its not something ive ever really known
I have almost maxed|| nail||
Writing that an hour later is sus
And the boss can be hard when you cant handle the adds yet
I just forgot about it
you should do it ||radiant|| now :3
I haven't beaten the game yet it's my first time
i mean, you still can if you have ||dream nail||
you also need it for ||kingsoul and true ending, you know?||
Ye
you can beat the game, and then do ||pop||
||path of pain is NOT mandatory||
purely optional
I have killed all || dreamers and can kill thk but i haven't only for the vibe||
you only get ||seal of binding in hunter's journal||
Oh
you should beat him for the achievemnt
good luck then
Not hard i have || collectors map||
Thanks
Other bosses i have left are || traitor lord and the one in bottom up of crystal peak||
And the|| dream ones||
||crystal guardian?||
What is the easiest|| dream variant?||
If he is the one near a || bench|| then i have beaten him
There is a stronger one
there's a second version for ||mask fragment||
||markoth?||
Ye
he's in ||kingdom's edge||, no?
Rn i have to save|| grub|| and beat|| dream warriors and bosses||
you got it dw
And find some || other charms like deep focus even though it's bad||
what are the 7 other entries in ||hunter's journal||
Theres only 168 total
oh, then the other 5
And it will only say || 164/164|| max
why?
theres 4 that just dont count. Idk why
huh
Do you have || menderbug||
no, i should prob go get him
||does menderbug perma die||
That's the last counted one for ||164/164||
oki, i'll go get it
It looks like you're also missing || void idol and weathered mask || though, but maybe it is scrolled down far enough
||i just beat path of pain for the first time im excited to see what i get||
yes
||okay so not kill him thank you||
i don't have them yet, but i know about them and am going for them
Should just be || menderbug || then
does ||abs rad|| have a ||journal entry||?
no
its shared with base
||do you fight ANY of the 5 great knights?||
Killing either grants the entry
ah, okay
1 kind of 2 i believe
||who?||
||ogrim (dung defender) and false knight is hegemol's armor|| iirc
what about ||winged nosk||, cus i've beaten him in ||hog|| but haven't beaten ||p5|| yet
||didn't know orgim was a great knight, ty, is it fair to not count The failed champion cuz well that's not them||
Doesnt have an entry i dont believe. If thats what you're asking
Chat, I'm gonna try out ||Hornet Sentinel|| again now. Any charms y'all might recommend?
okay, so i guess ||menderbug and the special ones|| are the only ones left
||do I get a mask shard or simple key from sly||
how much have you unlocked rn?
|| pick 2 from quick slash, shaman stone, and quick focus. I will say that 6 notches is generally quite low for that fight ||
both probably arent immediately useful
||quick slash shaman stone||
||quick slash||
there are a few places where you can get a ||simple key|| for free
|| 2 masks||
not spoiling immediately
No, I mean progression wise.
but there is one in a place where you'd want to use it immediately
You can find one in ||City of Tears||
yeah...
I see. So should I come back for it later when I have more ||notches||?
ideally yes
I think I can still buy two from ||Salubra||
oh yes definitely
you should explore other places yknow
||I got that already for Royal waterways||
Where else can I get ||notches||?
You can find them in ||arenas or around the world ||
I've done mostly everything. The only other area I can go rn is ||Mantis Lords|| and ||Deepnest||
||gonna overcharm for general exploring, what would be best? using strength, mark of pride, quickslash and compass, Ship has all charms||
yeah you should try out ||mantis lords||
they hold a really good charm
you like the nail?
||10 notches||?
||11 or max idk didn't count||
I guess I do, yeah. I prefer the nail over ||spells||, if that's what you mean
well you should try them out
with ||quick slash|| should be really easy
||mantis lords|| is roughly on the same level as ||soul master||
Okay. It is a pretty big detour from here, though. I guess I won't be returning to ||Hornet 2|| for a while
That's not too bad, then. The only thing that really annoyed me was the runback. I hope this one's better
nope they even have a similar runback!
hm idk
stuff like ||souleater/quickfocus is nice i guess but why overcharm for exploration?||
||the purple looks cool + have strenght + pure nail so things die quickly||
ah
well whatever
I guess it'll be better now that I have ||Monarch Wings||
Whoa, the ||Crossroads are Infected|| now
yeah that's what happens when you obtain ||wings||
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||Can someone help me find the path of the pain?||
in a quest to beat the monsters, we became monsters ourselves...
Why did you kill him 😭
Not that I didn’t 
Rest in peace ||menderbug||
As if I wasn’t ||repeatedly diving into the crossroads to kill him||
I had him first try somehow lmao
i wish we could at least bury him, give him a proper send off, instead of just diving into him
hi guys im just sending messages in all channels so i can get in vc <3
It makes the story more sad (which is good) that we killed him brutally
yeah...
You have 150 messages already
this is the only time i'll ever kill ||menderbug||
If gwnj is still in #hk-general then ask her. Otherwise dm modmail
wait so how do u know i have 150
they should make a modmail
search with the from: filter
got it, my bad
It has to get added manually since most of those messages are old. Dm modmail and make the request
In the server list on the right, just click on ModMail and direct message them
Getting help with discord in hk help lmao
yes i found it thank you
You got your vc perms
and this guy
||Best charms for p3?||
|| 3x 3 notches out of strength qslash shaman qfocus mop. Last 2 notches id run twister/catcher/heart/sbody grubsong||
the best overall is just || strength qslash shaman sbody nmg || but work with your preference
advice on ||p1ab oro and mato||?
||Get into a rhythm where you dodge the attack, and immediately dash back in to dash slash. It takes practice to get the timing correct. Otherwise, save your soul for DDarks to escape from between them when that is inevitably required||
It’s a very repetitive fight until one goes down
lol
One thing to be careful of is ||swinging your sword again to begin charging the dash slash, because sometimes you’ll hit them the same frame they begin blocking and they’ll go off rhythm||
Is that ||Menderbug|| 😭
There unfortunately isn’t much else you can do
it is qwq
Gg
Try to begin charging during the attack animation to prevent this


