hk-help

[desert salmon]

||Soul master is mid game boss||

[acoustic sigil]

Sure, thsts completely subjective and not related to their question though

[desert salmon]

Right…

[rose plover]

no i just got it for the pc i have it for console

[desert salmon]

Yes it is

It’s mid game

[desert salmon]

So much different brochacho

[rose plover]

ikr

i gtg anyway

[desert salmon]

What nooo

[inner fog]

||i reckon radiance is the most FUN boss||

[desert salmon]

It’s SOb

[inner fog]

cus like

once you learn its moves

[desert salmon]

No it’s sob

[inner fog]

its soooo fun

whaaaat

[desert salmon]

Yeaaa

It’s sob

[solid cliff]

||pure vessel is most fun for me||

[inner fog]

nah it just feels so epic

ok

||i need to go defeat nkg||

to get to 108%

ive done absoulety everything in the game

excepts ||pantheons|| and him

[solid cliff]

What’s the other percent

Ohh

[inner fog]

yea

ive got 90 hours total playtime

[solid cliff]

Well good luck

[inner fog]

all secret things

all speedruns

just cant get past ||nkg||

not that ive treied for very long

[solid cliff]

All ||journal entries?||

[inner fog]

he just is a really annoying boss

[inner fog]

yes

not the secret ones tho

[solid cliff]

He’s easy once you learn his moves

[inner fog]

well some of them

[solid cliff]

I recommend ||quick focus|| while learning him

[inner fog]

ohh

maybe thats a good idea

[solid cliff]

Bc you can heal during the pillar spikes

[inner fog]

yea

i like shape of un

cus like the fire spikes

[desert salmon]

So I should use ||strenght, child, mop, longnail|| I have 10

[solid cliff]

Yeah

[inner fog]

it moves just quick enough

to evade

[solid cliff]

Replace long ||nail with quick focuz||

[desert salmon]

okay

No I can’t

[acoustic sigil]

||Long nail is 2 and quick focus 3||

[solid cliff]

Why?

[solid cliff]

He said he had ||10 notches ||

[desert salmon]

Yea

[solid cliff]

So ||didn’t you have a spare notch?||

[golden flower]

3+2+3+2 is 10

[acoustic sigil]

Yes, 3+2+3+2 is what he currently has

[solid cliff]

Ohhh I forgot ||grimmchild is 2||

Mb

[desert salmon]

What can I put for

||2 notches||

[inner fog]

||shape of unnnn||?

[desert salmon]

Why

[inner fog]

Well you can use it to heal in 2 different places,

Firstly, it lowers your hotbox enought to go under the fire dragons

And also yk when he sends tower of fire up following u

You can move just quick enough with ||shape of unn|| to evade them

[inner fog]

So that's like 3 masks healing right there

Very helpful

At least for me

[haughty grail]

||spell twister||

Or ||steady body and grubsong combo, its rly powerful||

[rose plover]

imma do sm before ml

[desert salmon]

Against him?

Ig

[haughty grail]

Who?

[desert salmon]

||nkg||

[haughty grail]

oh

uh

yes

The second one

The combo

Thats god

[desert salmon]

Alr

So…

||strength, child, mop, steady, grubsong?||

[solid cliff]

I’m trying to ||radiant nkg rn||

[plucky ridge]

Anyone know where the map is in ||FogCanyon||

[lone bough]

uh

its up there

[plucky ridge]

Got any image I can probably find my way there sooner or later

Nvm found paper but it's locked behind this black beam

[solid cliff]

Yeah you need ||shade cloak||

[plucky ridge]

Ok ty

What area is it in?

[lone bough]

you could go the ohter way tho

[lone bough]

||abysssssssssssssssssssssssssss||

s

[plucky ridge]

Ok I'm assuming it's extremely low in the map

[lone bough]

yes

[plucky ridge]

Welp time to start digging

[lone bough]

||its in the anicient basin the netrance||

[plucky ridge]

I don't think I found that area yet

[worthy crest]

Then you probably haven’t been there yet…

[solid cliff]

You ||need to go to an area called kingdoms edge first and defeat a boss||

[plucky ridge]

Geez I'm still early in the game

[solid cliff]

If you send a picture of your inventory I can tell you where to go next

[plucky ridge]

Ok how do I do the spoil thing for images

[solid cliff]

When you’re about to send the image click the tiny image and scroll down and click mark as spike

*spoiler

[torpid wadi]

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[languid radish]

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[torpid wadi]

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and uh other guy with weird font name

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[solid cliff]

Okay

What abt your map?

[plucky ridge]

About to send

[solid cliff]

Okay

Have you defeated the boss in ||fungal wastes|| yet?

[plucky ridge]

What's the boss name?

[solid cliff]

||mantis lords||

[plucky ridge]

No

[solid cliff]

Okay

[plucky ridge]

It's the one boss I have memorized

Well bosses

[solid cliff]

Defeat them and then head left

[thick wing]

he should go to the ||city of tears, not deepnest||

[woeful oxide]

hey guys just reached a phase of ||soul master|| where he's all gray and like doing multi dives and like instead of releasing soul bullets he's pulling them

[exotic wharf]

it's after he slamps the ground right?

[solid cliff]

Maybe

[exotic wharf]

||so you have to wait for his dives to end then he'll stay in one place and starts shooting you with small fire balls that are slow but he will shoot them from random places in the arena||

[woeful oxide]

yep

[exotic wharf]

note: || you can attack him while doing the dives but it's a pretty difficult move to pull off as a new player||

[plucky ridge]

Should I go to the ||city of tears|| or ||deepnest||

[solid cliff]

I think ||deepnest||

[exotic wharf]

||city of tears||

[exotic wharf]

NO

[solid cliff]

He’s been to the first half already

Look at his map

[plucky ridge]

I already got the slam thing

[exotic wharf]

show me your inventory

[solid cliff]

Scroll up

[plucky ridge]

I sent it just scroll up

[exotic wharf]

are you speed running?

[plucky ridge]

Also is the ||mantis lords|| in the ||mantisvillage||

[exotic wharf]

yep

[plucky ridge]

Nah first playthrough ever

[exotic wharf]

oh...

[solid cliff]

Below it

There’s a hatch that opens the floor

[plucky ridge]

Ok thought so just checking

[solid cliff]

Good luck

[exotic wharf]

||well the only two reasons to go to deepnest is either tramp pass or hera||

both can be on hold now tho go to ||ancient basin||

[plucky ridge]

I'm going all of this for a map btw lol

[solid cliff]

||hera or pass or p ore or galien||

[thick wing]

||once u beat them, it should open a treasure room with geo and the charm mark of pride||

[exotic wharf]

||there's easier ores and dream escense everywhere||

[solid cliff]

Still he has to go there eventually

[thick wing]

||once u get the mantis claw visit salbura in the forgotten crossroads, she sells charms||

[exotic wharf]

eventually yes

but for now not really

it's not recommended bc

I hate||deepnest with my soul and body||

[plucky ridge]

I'm at the bottom of the village how do I open the hatch

[solid cliff]

Either there or ||broken vesseel||

[exotic wharf]

either ways it can be held for now

[solid cliff]

There’s a lever

[thick wing]

i think its above village, near where u get the claw

[plucky ridge]

Is it on the left

[inner fog]

So real

Although

the best part is wehn you drop down that tube into the soul spring

[solid cliff]

Maybe I don’t really remember

[exotic wharf]

let him discover it himself lol

[inner fog]

ya

[solid cliff]

You’ll know when you get it bc it causes shaking

[exotic wharf]

after dropping from the up entrance go right

[solid cliff]

It’s more on the right I think

[plucky ridge]

I think I got it

Yep

[solid cliff]

Nice

Well good luck with the fight

[plucky ridge]

Just dropped down

[desert salmon]

What charms r u suing

*using

[plucky ridge]

Is 6 masks good for the fight

[exotic wharf]

good luck the fight is the best in the game

[solid cliff]

I got to 4th phase once

[desert salmon]

What charms???

[solid cliff]

Lemme check

[solid cliff]

It’s not the best tbh

[desert salmon]

Okay….?

[solid cliff]

I’m using ||strenght, mop, soul catcher, and quick focus||

[plucky ridge]

How hard is the fight

[exotic wharf]

like a bit harder than|| soul master||

[plucky ridge]

Oh that's not bad

[exotic wharf]

[desert salmon]

I have ||10 notches. So can I use strength, mop, child, grub, and steady?||

[vague fern]

For || radiant || ??

[plucky ridge]

It's the guy that u get the slam from right

[solid cliff]

It will be easy for you bc you’re later then most people

[desert salmon]

||nkg||

[solid cliff]

Yeah

[exotic wharf]

are you seriously using||QUICK FOCUS IN A RADIANTE|| FIGHT?

[desert salmon]

lol

[vague fern]

|| why qfocus and why not overcharm||?

[solid cliff]

Yes😭

[desert salmon]

LOL

[solid cliff]

I didn’t even change my charms

[exotic wharf]

[solid cliff]

I just went into it after ||ascended||

[desert salmon]

@solid cliff

[solid cliff]

Yep

[desert salmon]

Is that good?

[sturdy sonnet]

I just beat him for the first time, didn't blink for 75% of the boss😭

[desert salmon]

What charms?

[plucky ridge]

Ok good to know ty

[exotic wharf]

||personally wouldn't recommend it even in ascended but it's not as bad as radiant ||

[plucky ridge]

Just entered the chamber but I'm going back up to heal lol

[desert salmon]

It’s ez

||mantis lords right?||

[plucky ridge]

Yes but I want to be at 6 maske

[desert salmon]

It is so much fun, I wish I could fight them again

[exotic wharf]

did you beat them?

[plucky ridge]

I'm cousius

[plucky ridge]

No I found their area

[exotic wharf]

did you do ||pantheons?||

[exotic wharf]

oh okay

[desert salmon]

Im fightint ||nkg||

[sturdy sonnet]

||Quick focus, sprint master, unbreakable heart, and sharp shadow||

[plucky ridge]

And climbed the wall to heal

[exotic wharf]

okay good luck with that

[desert salmon]

No nail based weapons???

*charms

[sturdy sonnet]

No

[exotic wharf]

somehow you picked a not so useless charm

[desert salmon]

I lowkey wanna use ||strength, heart, mop, child, and grub.||

[sturdy sonnet]

Honestly quick nail kept messing me up

[desert salmon]

Would it be good

[exotic wharf]

oh it's not||radiant?||

[vague fern]

Its pretty good, || heart + grubsong -> qslash || would be better but eh

[plucky ridge]

Just started the fight and already at half lol

[exotic wharf]

||heart isn't as useful as you think since you only take one extra hit||

[desert salmon]

WHY ARE YOU TYPING

[sturdy sonnet]

Who you fighting

[desert salmon]

That’s one extra occasion I could win.

[plucky ridge]

Paused and I just died

[plucky ridge]

||Mantis Lords||

[exotic wharf]

you can deal more damage with what lune said soo

[desert salmon]

Alr

[exotic wharf]

but it's a personal choice honestly do as you like

[sturdy sonnet]

Peak boss honestly, I missed it early game...

[plucky ridge]

Same

[desert salmon]

Only have ||10 notches||

[desert salmon]

And u died to it

[plucky ridge]

I already have some ok stuff

[exotic wharf]

ah....

[desert salmon]

So would my original build work?

[exotic wharf]

does it make a difference?

[plucky ridge]

I fight them many times and learn how they move so it makes sense for me

[desert salmon]

Wut

Should I use or not?

[sturdy sonnet]

did ||mantis|| late game so kinda easy

[desert salmon]

KINDAAA????

[exotic wharf]

do as lune said put ||q slash||

[plucky ridge]

I'm in starting middle ending early game rn

[exotic wharf]

||instead of hearts and grub song||

[desert salmon]

I don’t have enough ||notxhes?????||

[sturdy sonnet]

Then I went into ||godhome|| and did them there...

Didn't go to plan

[exotic wharf]

what's your original build?

[desert salmon]

I lowkey wanna use ||strength, heart, mop, child, and grub.||

Oh that’s 11

Mb

I’m stupid

[plucky ridge]

I'm assuming ||god home|| is a boss

[desert salmon]

No

[sturdy sonnet]

Nah

[desert salmon]

It’s ||an area, where gods live||

[exotic wharf]

||heart and grub are 3 ||

[plucky ridge]

Oh would be a good name for one though

[desert salmon]

Yes

[plucky ridge]

Oh the sun

[desert salmon]

So just take out ||grub?||

[exotic wharf]

||q slash is 3||

[desert salmon]

Yes

[sturdy sonnet]

||"what am I gonna fight the sun?"||

[exotic wharf]

or get another||notch||

[desert salmon]

No

[plucky ridge]

That's why I call it the sun and why I stared the game

[desert salmon]

So what build should I use?

[exotic wharf]

it isn't difficult

[desert salmon]

I’m lazy

[exotic wharf]

show me your||charms||

[exotic wharf]

same

[sturdy sonnet]

Killed him in 5 attempts

Idk how

I just didn't blink

At all

[plucky ridge]

It's going to be at least double that

[plucky ridge]

For me

[exotic wharf]

you don't like blinking do you?

[desert salmon]

I didn’t either

The brains neurons learn

[sturdy sonnet]

I've gone into ||HK boss|| and didn't blink for about 15 minutes

[plucky ridge]

How I stop a ||Crystal Charge|| after charging it

[desert salmon]

U can’t

[exotic wharf]

||strength 3 q slash 3 you can put long nail or steady body with another one cost of your choice||

[plucky ridge]

Going silent attempt 2

[desert salmon]

||quick focus?||

[exotic wharf]

||quick slash||

[desert salmon]

No, should I use it?

[sturdy sonnet]

||didn't blink for the collector, hardest boss ever tbh😭||

[exotic wharf]

no

[desert salmon]

Alr

[exotic wharf]

you can heal in a lot of situations

idk when tho if you asked me

[desert salmon]

||Strength, qslash, child, longnail||

That good?

[exotic wharf]

||collector .....||

[exotic wharf]

yep

[sturdy sonnet]

He was just annoying

Like please stop running

[plucky ridge]

Phase 1 done yay

[exotic wharf]

||and if you're struggling watch videos to see how to dodge his attacks||

[desert salmon]

What abt ||mop for qslash||

[desert salmon]

Alr

[exotic wharf]

it's just that we spam too much lol

[exotic wharf]

you can but less dps

[desert salmon]

Stop typing… Astaghfurallah

[exotic wharf]

so sometimes you won't be able to hit him twice

[sturdy sonnet]

My next big boss coming up is ||pure vessel||

[exotic wharf]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[exotic wharf]

in ||4p?||

[sturdy sonnet]

Yeah

[plucky ridge]

Good idea just died to being dumb

[desert salmon]

Yea but ||longnail barely helps in a situation like this. MOP is neccessatu||

[desert salmon]

3 word…

[exotic wharf]

good luck of you unlocked him I recommend you to challenge him in ||hog||

[desert salmon]

PLAY THE GAME

[plucky ridge]

Got it

[sturdy sonnet]

How do I unlock him there....

[exotic wharf]

your wish

[exotic wharf]

fight him once

[desert salmon]

What would u recommend?

[exotic wharf]

win or lose doesn't matter

[desert salmon]

Alright

[exotic wharf]

@desert salmon this

[desert salmon]

But do I sacrifice range for dps?

[exotic wharf]

yes

[sturdy sonnet]

Issue is, gotta kill ||god tamer in the colloseum|| again

For some reason

[desert salmon]

Alr

[plucky ridge]

||Also should I keep my bench spawn at queen station or the beach to the right of mantis village that goes down a bit||

[exotic wharf]

no?

[vague fern]

If you're fighting || nkg|| , this might come in handy #hk-discussion message

[desert salmon]

Alright

[exotic wharf]

I didn't even kill them

[exotic wharf]

if you're dying change it

[sturdy sonnet]

It's saying I can't do ||p4|| until I kill ||god tamer||

[plucky ridge]

Ok bet

[sturdy sonnet]

Again

And I don't wanna

Cause he's ass

[vague fern]

You dont

[desert salmon]

That’s how you counter them…

[vague fern]

none of the || pantheons || require him

[desert salmon]

Nice!!

[exotic wharf]

odd I didn't have to

[vague fern]

Well theyre healing windows which are slightly different but yh

[exotic wharf]

can I see the thingy?

[sturdy sonnet]

So I've been fighting the wrong boss and confusing it with another??

I hate my life

[exotic wharf]

I would too

[vague fern]

Probably, || god tamer || is in 3

and you dont needa fight them to unlock it

[sturdy sonnet]

There's one boss I'm missing

[vague fern]

send a photo if i want

[exotic wharf]

he's before||Grimm|| I remember

[sturdy sonnet]

Something like ||old something||

[desert salmon]

@vague fern Do u agree with this charm-making?

[sturdy sonnet]

His name starts with old

Idk what his full boss name is

[desert salmon]

||Elder Hu?||

[sturdy sonnet]

Nah he was easy

[vague fern]

Seems pretty good, i personally would just run || qslash strength mop grimmchild || but its preference

[exotic wharf]

you can see the bosses names

[vague fern]

Doesnt ring any bells

[desert salmon]

I only have ||10 nothxes||

[exotic wharf]

they only have||10 notches||

[sturdy sonnet]

1 sec, let me check

[vague fern]

Ah okay then then yeah the earlier build is fine

[exotic wharf]

and I didn't count||gc||

[desert salmon]

Alr

Now I just gotta learn the movements

[exotic wharf]

that's his whole thing honestly

but remember the video was for healing windows not how you should dodge

[desert salmon]

He

[exotic wharf]

well also that but yea

[plucky ridge]

Attempt 3

[exotic wharf]

you need to deal damage too

[desert salmon]

So, ||strength, qslash, child, longnail?||

[sturdy sonnet]

I was completely wrong, it's a guy called ||no eyes||

[desert salmon]

This is the golden charm

[exotic wharf]

brother we don't need to know if you want to ask something ask 😭

[exotic wharf]

yea

[exotic wharf]

LMAO

[sturdy sonnet]

Idk who that guy is

Never seen him

[exotic wharf]

she's in ||greenpath||

did you get all the masks?

[sturdy sonnet]

Hell nah

[exotic wharf]

[sturdy sonnet]

I got this

[exotic wharf]

look up where to find||no eyes|| on yt

and get the||mask shard|| for later

[sturdy sonnet]

Is she a fraud boss?

[exotic wharf]

no I'm just too lazy to show you where she is

[sturdy sonnet]

I mean in strength

[exotic wharf]

oh mehhhh

could be annoying but not hard at all

[sturdy sonnet]

||Elder hu|| was more annoying

[exotic wharf]

interesting statement

[sturdy sonnet]

Couldn't hit him since he kept going into his attack where you can't hit him

[exotic wharf]

true

[sturdy sonnet]

Not hard, just mildly irritating

[exotic wharf]

irritating when he does that attack yea

[sturdy sonnet]

But apart from that he's a victim

[tall kraken]

Any charm layouts for ||hornet's second boss fight ||

[weak marlin]

Prob gonna want ||quick slash|| at least

I kinda just pushed the boss into a wall with it

Put whatever feels right after that

[grand geyser]

how many ||dream bosses|| are there?

i’ve fought three

[sick hazel]

Is 7 mask 1 ||soul vessel|| ||quick strength fragile strength lv 3 nail with other charms good enough to beat hornet sentinel||

[vague fern]

5

6/7 (dont) total but 2 dont give || essence||

[final thicket]

The ghost guys or the ||things that you dream nail and your teleported to a boss?||

[final thicket]

7 for the first option, 5 for the second

[final thicket]

absolutely.
I just had 6 masks and a dream

[sick hazel]

Nail

[grand geyser]

second one

[final thicket]

5

[grand geyser]

okay so i beat ||false knight, lost skin and soul tyrant|| what am i supposed to do now

[vague fern]

|| dung defender ||

[sick hazel]

Anyways i am bouta go and beat|| hornet (SHAW) and learn her patterns until i git gud||

[grand geyser]

after that i get to fight ||nightmare grimm||? that’s the 5th one?

[sick hazel]

Or|| hornet sentinel ||

[grand geyser]

i already beat her

[vague fern]

he doesnt give || essence|| but you can fight him and he is a || dream boss||

[sick hazel]

To get access to spell upgrade

[vague fern]

the 5th isnt a || boss refight||, (kinda)

[grand geyser]

before the ||false knight||

[final thicket]

the other two are ||White Defender|| (Go to where you fought ||Dung Defender|| and ||Desolate Dive|| underneath the machine thingy) and ||Grey Prince Zote|| (In ||Bretta's Home|| in ||Dirtmouth||)

[grand geyser]

yea so i was wondering |||if there’s a nightmare version of all bosses atp😭||

[final thicket]

technically 6th

[sick hazel]

Bruh

[final thicket]

no

[sick hazel]

Anyways bouta go for now

[grand geyser]

so what am i missing

[final thicket]

🫡

[final thicket]

wdym

?

[grand geyser]

||false knight, lost skin, soul tyrant, white defender, nightmare grim and?||

[final thicket]

||Grey Prince Zote||

[grand geyser]

ohh i didn’t read the message above sorry

[final thicket]

depending on your actions, he may not exist though

[grand geyser]

alright thanks

[grand geyser]

i have no clue

i’m new to the game

[final thicket]

have you fought this guy?

[grand geyser]

obviously they’re everywhere

[final thicket]

if not, then you wont be able to fight ||Grey Prince Zote||

[grand geyser]

in ||infected crossroads||

[final thicket]

no the big one

[grand geyser]

no i didn’t

[final thicket]

BIG

[grand geyser]

can i still fight fight that and

[final thicket]

then you can fight ||Grey Prince Zote||

[final thicket]

how it works is ||If you kill that guy, you save Zote and can fight him later. If you don't kill the fly, Zote dies.||

[final thicket]

if you go to the fly (Hes at the top of ||Greenpath||) then you can get an achievemnent for whacking ||Zote's skull||

[grand geyser]

thanks

[final thicket]

so yeah, cant fight the guy

[grand geyser]

until i fight the ||fly||

[final thicket]

nah, the dudes dead

he dies when you get ||Mantis Claw||

[grand geyser]

so there’s no way i can fight him

[final thicket]

nope

dont worry, he's the worst boss in the game and you'll be glad he's dead, trust me

so annoying

[main pumice]

Can someone help me get past this

[final thicket]

pretty sure you need ||Super Dash||

||Crystal Peaks||

[grand geyser]

so basically i was supposed to fight the ||fly|| nearly st the start of the game lolll

completely missed that

[final thicket]

again, you'll be glad he's dead

[grand geyser]

can’t complain then

it’s a boring fight?

[final thicket]

he screws up EVERYTHING if your trying to get 112%

[final thicket]

annoying

every time he attacks, he trips and causes a massive shockwaves

fattie

[plucky ridge]

I think I just found a infinite money farm by accident

[final thicket]

yeah?

[plucky ridge]

You know the bugs that shot other bugs

Infinitely

[final thicket]

ohhhhh, that strategy

yeah I think he stops after a while

also they don't drop too much money

[plucky ridge]

Yep sorry for wasting your time

[final thicket]

most effiecient money farm is ||Coloseum||

[final thicket]

nah its chill

[grand geyser]

so i’ll never be able to get 112 just bc of that💀💀? unless i start a new run

[final thicket]

no he doesn't give a percent

he just makes getting 112 harder

[grand geyser]

oh alr

i misunderstood

[final thicket]

(||Theres boss rushes in the game that give percents, and one of them has GPZ in it, but if he's dead, you don't see him in that boss rush and it makes it way easier||)

[ruby hull]

Pretty sure ||he dies when you leave the room after entering for some time||

[final thicket]

nah its claw

[ruby hull]

Sauce

[ruby hull]

He's for the achievements

No %s

Also finishing the game doesn't give a %, fun fact

[woeful oxide]

uhh how to progress

[final thicket]

I think there's a ||dive spot|||

[desert salmon]

Guys

Is this fire

Like look at my pfp and then this

[primal harbor]

Hi, I'm here.

[desert salmon]

Is so tuff

[frank trail]

I CANT BEAT ||NAIL MASTER SLY IN PATHEON 3||
any tips?

[final thicket]

pretty sure your PFP is just the thingy that Chris Larkin has on this video:
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut_RjDGUJoY||

[final thicket]

I used ||Sharp Shadow|| to wreck him (in phase 2, I cant think of anything for Phase 1)

[desert salmon]

No but the image

I sent

[desert salmon]

Ts is so tuff

[golden flower]

||just walk away for the 3 combo, stay just out of range when he swings down to bait the counter, dash out then in for great slash, jump over dash slash, and either dive or pogo cyclone; only hit once or twice to be safe. for phase 2, (try to) use a great slash after every one of his swings||

[final thicket]

i used this video btw to beat him:
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHUY2CtgQ5g||

[primal harbor]

Chat, I just made it to ||Soul Sanctum||. Any tips on how to fight that ||teleporting sword guy with the fireballs||?

Also, is 9 hours an acceptable time or am I going too slow?

[final thicket]

yes and no. if your trying to get all the stuff then no

[primal harbor]

Yeah, I'm trying to do everything. And I get kinda lost sometimes 💀

[desert salmon]

I’m 75 hours in

Lmao

I’m on ||nkg||

[oblique wharf]

chat i js beat ||nkg|| on 1 mask left, is this a glitch?

[primal harbor]

didn't even answer my main question 😭

[median bough]

||for a first time player who doesn't know the routes 9 hours is good but it is entirely possible to get to sanctum in an hour and a bit with a bit of practice||

and also ||bc i forgor too: for soul warrior, jump over or pogo the dashes and you can use the dash to evade the fireballs||

[weak smelt]

||Is there always a delay when trying to double jump after attacking? I am finding it very hard to hit the Radiance 2 times and then double jump and hit 2 more times||

[formal smelt]

How do I get to|| stag station in infected crossroads it frustrates me||

[solid heart]

Yes, you cannot ||double jump until your nail animation is over||

This can be fixed with what is called an animation cancel

But you're better off trying to find other ways to do what you want

[median bough]

you have to go left from ||the dirtmouth entrance to crossroads, to below where cornifer is and then go right until you make it||

[vestal estuary]

alt route is keep going through to ||gruzmother room||, go up through that room and then left
you'll be above it

[formal smelt]

When you say through that room is there like a secret door I’m missing or is it literally going up from where I just got from

[vestal estuary]

you can go up through a passage directly left of the ||gruzmother|| arena

[formal smelt]

Here’s my issue I don’t have the lever shortcut I forgot to do that

[vestal estuary]

oh uh

||take the tram from resting grounds||

or

or

[formal smelt]

Don’t got it :/

I’m doing an achievement under 5 hours and it’s an issue

[vestal estuary]

if you opened the shortcut to the left of ||false knight boss room||

you can walk through that hallway from ||cornifer's|| original location

[formal smelt]

Like|| ancestral mound||?

[vestal estuary]

wait nvm

theres a blockage there too

you can go to the ||dive peaks entrance|| and drop down into ||darkroom peaks entrance||

that's the way i think

[formal smelt]

Am I gonna have to manually go through ||crystal|| AWWWWW

[vestal estuary]

i don't think so

[formal smelt]

With what is happening it might be the only way

[vestal estuary]

should be a dropdown right there

yeah you should be able to get into darkroom

[formal smelt]

I need a mark because it’s like giving a toddler calculus problems

[vestal estuary]

nother random map image i found

you need to progress through ||city of tears||. eventually you will unlock a ||stag station||

[formal smelt]

I have ||kings||

[vestal estuary]

talkin to other guy

[round olive]

hi, i trapped myself in the ||City of Tears||. I tried getting back via the main gate i came from (the one at the border between ||fungal|| and ||City||) and via the shortcut (?) right there. Unfortunately i dont have any keys on me to unlock any doors. Anybody know how I get back?

[vestal estuary]

see above

[formal smelt]

I saved to camera roll and try it

[inner fog]

||there's a boss in city of tears you need to defeat||

[round olive]

where would I find it? I'm pretty sure i've discovered everything im able to discover w/o a key

[inner fog]

||But there's also a stag station to get out early||

[summer echo]

you know this elevator part? if you jump out while going up then you can access another platform.

[vestal estuary]

this is false'nt
||to go back through the fungal CoT entrance you do need to beat that boss but you don't need to beat it to leave CoT||

[summer echo]

then you can explore more of the ||city||

[round olive]

yeah and then through the balcony right?

[vestal estuary]

yeah this is the answer right here

[inner fog]

Yea

[summer echo]

you can then unlock a ||stag statio||

[inner fog]

That's why I said this

[jovial light]

What charms am i missing and how do i get them?

[summer echo]

go to ||leg eater|| and buy the last item in stock

[jovial light]

I have, ||divine|| currwntly has it

Saving up rn LOL

[summer echo]

[wise latch]

Okay I need someone to guide me through why I'm fucking up so badly because I NEED my dignity back I cannot reach ||100 deaths to Traitor Lord..||
||I think my issues come with missing the pogo timing on top and not being able to tell when he jumps||

[summer echo]

for another one, you need to access a certain yellow hexagon patterned area under ||kingdom's edge||

[jovial light]

What ||charms|| are ya using?

[jovial light]

Is it behind ||hive knight||

[summer echo]

ah so you already know... yes

just tryna avoid spoilng

[jovial light]

LOL yes

Mo worries, im happy to be spoiled

Im in endgame rn

[robust ridge]

this sounds counterintuitive but stay on the ground and in his face the whole time

||this is supposed to be a shade dash tutorial, you should shade dash through his attacks when he charges across the ground

if you're in his face he just jumps over you when he does a jump||

[orchid flower]

I personally find ||sharp shadow|| and ||thorns|| to be more of a hindrance than an assist in most fights

Hav you tried turning those off?

[wise latch]

||Stalwart shell, shape of unn, sharp shadow, thorns of agony, steady body, and sprintmaster rn||

[jovial light]

Oh wowie

[wise latch]

I have both of those, I can probably turn them off

[orchid flower]

I also think the fight is way easier if you never ||dash|| through him

[wise latch]

I was messing around with my charm build so it isn't great

[orchid flower]

Ik it’s supposed to be the tutorial but he’s very simple if you just always jump to dodge

Always pre jump. If he’s gonna charge forward go over him, if he’s gonna jump himself dodge away

You’ll never get hit

[robust ridge]

i feel like not using him as the tutorial will screw you over later though

i think it's worth it to learn it like that for now

you can always change it up later

[orchid flower]

There’s like maybe one other fight in the whole game you use it tho

[wise latch]

||Pogoing|| seems to be the most effective but I can never tell when he's about to jump, even when I'm already in the air

[vestal estuary]

i always ||dash|| through him and i've done him hitless
i think it's a personal preference thing

[orchid flower]

He gives you plenty of time to react, just watch him

[jovial light]

Counter thought, ||sharp shadow|| is good cuz u can ||dash|| further without ur i-frames exploding on you

[robust ridge]

exactly, you might end up getting too far in without learning to use it and at that point it's going to be really hard to incoporate it into your gameplay

[orchid flower]

I’ve never done that and I’ve done him hitless a lot haha

[vestal estuary]

yeah personal preference then i think

[wise latch]

I can try both methods but I've no clue what'll be more effective

I'm at maybe 75 deaths now it's real pathetic....

[jovial light]

He jumps if youre in the air! To stop u from ||pogoing||

[wise latch]

Is there a pattern to when he jumps?

[robust ridge]

i strongly recommend ||dashing through him for now|| and changing up later if you want to

[jovial light]

No, unfortunately

[robust ridge]

||he can only do two dashes or jumps in a row before he's forced to switch to the other attack||

[vestal estuary]

if you're ||weathered mask|| then you're better than me, clearly you've done him a lot lmao

[jovial light]

I think its atleast every 1-3 ||dashes|| though

[wise latch]

I think I heard something like that

[orchid flower]

I can only think of two bosses where I found ||dashing through|| to be a more effective strategy than normal dodging to be entirely honest, and one of them you’re practically guaranteed to have already fought

[robust ridge]

it's an equal chance for either attack

im pretty sure'

[jovial light]

Anymore btw?

[orchid flower]

He does have a counter. I know because his ||shockwave|| attack is forced to happen

There’s certain conditions where he does his attacks

And that one in particular will always happen no matter what

[robust ridge]

yeah i mentioned that before

he can only do two of either in a row

[vestal estuary]

like his ||windscythes|| always happen if you get too far away

[robust ridge]

before he has to switch

[jovial light]

||shockwave|| is a signal of "phase 2"/halfway right?

[robust ridge]

idk how the whole ||shockwave|| timer works

[wise latch]

||Shockwave|| means he's under 500 health i think

[robust ridge]

if i had to guess it's either forced every x other attacks or forces it as soon as he can do it the first time

[jovial light]

eh potato potato

[wise latch]

Lmao

So generally for the first strategy: ||dash through him, stay close to his face/don't run off||
Overall, don't touch the ground at all? And no ||healing|| I assume?

[robust ridge]

i definitely agree with this in general (I think an issue a lot of people have is being overeliant on ||shade cloak||) but I think missing the designated tutorial will just screw you over later in this case

[orchid flower]

You can only heal if you get far away

[wise latch]

I mean stay on the ground

[jovial light]

Definwtly heal, ||quick focus|| is so good in this fight

[robust ridge]

no, never leave the ground

[orchid flower]

If that doesn’t work, pre jumping and reacting to him is what I always do

[wise latch]

As for ||charm build...quick focus for sure||

[jovial light]

There are small windows to heal, like (if youre lucky) during the spinny circle orange thingys he tgrows

[robust ridge]

||if he does two dashes in a row you know he'll have to jump over you for the next attack so you can heal||

[vestal estuary]

||shape of unn|| will help with dodging projectiles while healing
he only throws out the projectiles if you get far away which you need to do to heal

[robust ridge]

this is probably the safest way to heal in the fight

[wise latch]

Good to know

[orchid flower]

I’m not entirely sure on how frame perfect you’d have to be if he walks into u tho. I’ve never tried this strategy

[robust ridge]

ohh walk storage

[wise latch]

I've got ||Stalwart, Unn, and Q Focus right now||

[jovial light]

Unpopular opinion, but ||sharp shadow|| will help too! You ||dash|| further and do damage so

[robust ridge]

he can't hold walk storage in this situation

[vestal estuary]

also if you plan to be healing, ||quick focus|| all the way

[robust ridge]

the ||dash attack|| clears walk storage

[orchid flower]

With how many hours I put into this game I’ve still never understood his walking, I just don’t deal with it

[wise latch]

I heard it's kind of a rare chance anyhow, maybe just to close space between the player

[robust ridge]

it's actually pretty simple, except for like 0.01% of cases where he just does whatever he wants for some reason

||after every shockwave, he'll "store" a walk which he can use at any time. when he dashes he loses this stored walk.||

[jovial light]

Also! Practice makes perfect

[vestal estuary]

yep, untold attempts got atomized because he walked into me

[languid valve]

Anyone got tips for ||pv||?

[jovial light]

The boss took me forever to beat aswell so dont get too annoyed

[orchid flower]

It doesn’t sound simple if he can just decide to do it

[robust ridge]

emphasis on how rare the exception is though, like it only happened to genio once in his entire ||r5|| journey

[wise latch]

sobs in 75 tries

[robust ridge]

it's extremely rare

[vestal estuary]

you can ||set a dreamgate|| at the entrance to his arena to skip the runback

[wise latch]

Ah well what's one more shot

[robust ridge]

i've never seen it myself

[summer echo]

||practice in hall of gods you will eventually get him||

[robust ridge]

if it's rare enough that ||r5|| players don't have to consider it neither do you

[wise latch]

Thankfully I've already done that,, I've cooked so much of my ||essence||

[orchid flower]

Do NOT ||do the shade dash|| strategy. Its ironically more precise, in my experience, than just jumping over them

[solid heart]

Yep

This is true

[orchid flower]

I’m more interested in the code than anything else

Why can he just randomly do it

[solid heart]

I've only seen out of order walk storage twice ever

[robust ridge]

tc spaghetti code

[solid heart]

In all of the gameplay I've seen, not played myself

[vestal estuary]

like most of his attacks are dodged with a jump so just always jump

[robust ridge]

i've seen it once

never in my own gameplay

[orchid flower]

Every attack can be dodged with pre-jumping. There’s no reason not to

[robust ridge]

(i was scouring footage to try to find an instance after you brought it up)

[robust ridge]

loses healing opportunities

[orchid flower]

I don’t think there are any truly safe ones outside of stagger and ||focus||

[robust ridge]

especially with ||quick focus|| you can probably react to the jump

[orchid flower]

And that’s a fight that you shouldn’t get hit during to be entirely honest

[robust ridge]

oh wait sorry i thought you meant ||traitor lord||

nvm

[languid valve]

Ok thank y'all!¡

[orchid flower]

Yea no someone was asking about ||Pure Vessel||

Which is just a fight you don’t heal during

[robust ridge]

nah you can heal plenty

saved me in ||p4ab||

you just have to be careful though

cause a failed heal is very punishing there

[orchid flower]

Maybe I got hit like once

My ||P4AB|| I just ended up doing them hitless I think

[vestal estuary]

yeah ||pv|| nearly made me quit my ||rhog|| push
||absrad|| did make me quit, moved on to silksong

to this day my ||hall of gods|| is nearly complete

[orchid flower]

I am putting off ||P5AB|| even though I’m sure I could do it if I just grinded attempts

I’ve gotten up to ||Zote||

[solid heart]

I should learn how to heal to not die a shameful death in ||P045||

[robust ridge]

same

[vestal estuary]

i'm never gonna do that
i do not have enough time in my life to do that

[robust ridge]

the runback is so annoying

[solid heart]

Why

[robust ridge]

modded bosses are so much more fun

[orchid flower]

Can’t beat ||AB AbsRad||

I’ve never actually beaten her in any practice but I’ve gotten very close

[solid heart]

You just gotta keep putting attempts at her

[robust ridge]

it takes a lot of soul management imo

[solid heart]

Practice makes the master

[orchid flower]

I’ll need to spend a few hours with a mod that lets me just practice her ||beam burst||. I’ve sunk well over 60 hours int the boss but I’ve never improved at it at all

Which I don’t think is normal lol

[robust ridge]

i'm not great at it myself but learning soul management from modded fights helped me a lot

[orchid flower]

I’d be more willing to if it was anything other than a reaction time thing

[robust ridge]

i find it funny how half the playerbase finds ||beam burst|| free and the other half finds it really hard

[fluid oyster]

hello

[orchid flower]

I don’t find that particularly fun

[robust ridge]

it's not really reaction time

im not sure what exactly it is

but like i've never had any problems with it and my reaction time is quite bad

like bottom 20%

[orchid flower]

Mine is slightly below average and I’ve genuinely never been able to dodge it if it’s right on me

No matter what people tell me to try

[vague fern]

i dont think there are any tricks to it tbh

[orchid flower]

It just gets demotivating after a while

[vague fern]

its a really odd thing to see people randomly struggle or find it easy with no relation

[orchid flower]

It’s infuriating cause it really is such a simple attack but the time for my brain to press the button to make me move when it spawns dead center on me seems to be just too long to reliably dodge it

[woeful oxide]

can anyone help me out what to do next I just talked to ||hornet on the fountain||

[orchid flower]

And it doesn’t feel like there’s anything I can really do about that

So I kinda just gave up

[orchid flower]

U can go wherever u want rly

[robust ridge]

yeah ok my reaction time is bottom 10% consistently

just checked

still haven't had issues with it

[orchid flower]

Then my brain must just be weird😅

[robust ridge]

i mean half the playerbase has the same issue

[tawny sapphire]

||ddark|| surely

[robust ridge]

so not really

[orchid flower]

||AB||

So 90% of the time you have no soul

[tawny sapphire]

||did you beat the boss in soul sanctum||

[tawny sapphire]

aw man

[robust ridge]

soul management

that's the #1 thing you gotta learn for the fight imo

[orchid flower]

If half the playerbase didn’t find it piss easy id call it a poorly designed attack but i think im definitely just a little tilted at it

[solid heart]

Maybe it's a vision thing and you haven't noticed
Try ||blind rad, it's on lumafly||

It removes the background

[robust ridge]

^

[orchid flower]

That’s not the problem

[robust ridge]

it might very well be

[orchid flower]

I have tried it and it didn’t help very much

[solid heart]

Yep

[robust ridge]

i was getting destroyed by ||beam burst|| on 200% brightness

[tawny sapphire]

[orchid flower]

Still had about 50% success rate

[solid heart]

Alternatively try ||Ultimatum
Maybe the faster beam bursts will make you feel different||

[woeful oxide]

just earlier this morning

[orchid flower]

I know it’s not too fast i just don’t know why it feels too fast😭

[robust ridge]

do mods have to be spoilered

oops

[tawny sapphire]

||go back to crossroads and look for places to use your new ability||

[solid heart]

I'd rather spoiler everything

That was the norm before the bot

[robust ridge]

well yeah but i just never bothered with mods usually

well with discretion ofc

[orchid flower]

I feel like I’m probably just whining too much about it, there doesn’t seem to be any more help I can really get

[robust ridge]

only when it doesn't have a chance of giving away anything vanilla

[tawny sapphire]

this might help yeah

[tawny sapphire]

can't really give help when we can't pin point what's causing the issue

[robust ridge]

it also might be a positioning thing

i've heard something about the position being consistent

[orchid flower]

I’ve been told that that’s a myth

[robust ridge]

and i feel like i've always kind of "known" where the ||beams|| would be

[fluid oyster]

Any tips for ||the Hollow Knight boss fight||, as its my first playthrough and im struggling with him

[robust ridge]

like im rarely in the telegraph of one

[tawny sapphire]

||any attacks in particular you are struggling with?||

[fluid oyster]

not in particular

[orchid flower]

I would love if anyone had ever documented this but every single guide I’ve read for this just says “dodge it”

[tawny sapphire]

||do you know how to dodge each attack individually?||

[fluid oyster]

ye

[woeful oxide]

how do I get back through ||crossroads|| when the entrance from ||fungal wastes|| is blocked

[fluid oyster]

i think i just need to work on consistently dodging and attacking too

[tawny sapphire]

||then it's just a matter of practicing till you beat it, if you do struggle with any attacks in particular, do tell||

[tawny sapphire]

that's the neat thing, you don't

[solid heart]

You could read the ||anyrad guide, that has in depth beam burst mechanics||

[wise latch]

Still struggling hard with that overgrown blade of grass, I keep jumping out of panic when he jumps and forgetting to ||dash|| to the side

[orchid flower]

Where would I find that?

[wise latch]

Anyone know how long the average fight with him takes? It would help with pacing and patience

[tawny sapphire]

I do know that it's easier to dodge when you are closer to her cause the farther you are the weird angles just fuck you up

[orchid flower]

See I’ve been told it’s easier to be farther away too 💔

I feel like there’s not a proper way to dodge it

[tawny sapphire]

||In depth absolute radiance guide by Deadclover
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gD8MtYXHHiPR1OEPY9r0QfsQsKEyIdiTIw3YjA4o8qM/edit?usp=drivesdk||

[solid heart]

It's better to be either as far or as close as possible

[nova relic]

how do you deal with hornets second phase in edge of the kingdom the spikey balls ?

[solid heart]

But close is always better

[tawny sapphire]

uh who?

[solid heart]

In between is the worst

[nova relic]

how do you deal with hornets second phase in edge of the kingdom the spikey balls ?

[wise latch]

||Traitor Lord off on Queen's Gardens||

[tawny sapphire]

spoiler tags please, as for that ||use vengeful spirit to deal with them or hit them away||

[orchid flower]

:/
||”o dodge this attack, dodge the first set of beams just by reacting to it”||

[robust ridge]

are you ususally expecting it to happen?

that could be a huge part of it

[orchid flower]

Yes

[nova relic]

yea but she traps in a corner with them

[orchid flower]

I always expect her to do it when she’s about to attack

[robust ridge]

have you tried playing a round where you're only thinking of trying to dodge ||beam burst||

see how it goes in that situation

[tawny sapphire]

||this is the anyrad onehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q03INGiTFLHaGAq0jnMpba_dhkKxAqUesALlGhv1Wnc||

[orchid flower]

I just can’t do it. On the off chance I do jump in time it’s always when it’s right above me and I jump into it😅

[tawny sapphire]

jump?

[robust ridge]

yeah wait jump?

i think that might be your problem

[tawny sapphire]

why are you jumping?

[woeful oxide]

I found this

[orchid flower]

I’ve only ever dodged it that way

[tawny sapphire]

uh what?

[tawny sapphire]

????

[orchid flower]

When I try to walk out of the way I’m too slow

[robust ridge]

uh i think that's your problem then

try staying under her and walking or ||dashing|| out of the way then

[tawny sapphire]

how do you even dodge it by jumping what

[robust ridge]

like directly under

[orchid flower]

Okay but I have 0% success rate in walking and 50% by jumping 😭

So I dunno

[robust ridge]

well then practice it with walking

[woeful oxide]

the small circle

[robust ridge]

jumping just seems like a terrible idea

[tawny sapphire]

I don't play ||AB|| so I wouldn't know

[robust ridge]

i don't think you can get consistent with jumping

[orchid flower]

This one also just says the first one is random

[tawny sapphire]

yeah dw about it and get more when you can

[tawny sapphire]

yeah it is

[tawny sapphire]

that depends on distance

[solid heart]

@orchid flower yeah uh, the ||anyrad guide says||

[tawny sapphire]

if you are far away, jumping is better if you're close, walking is better

[orchid flower]

If it’s random then it’s still just a reaction time thing innit

[robust ridge]

jumping just seems like it sets you up to get hit later

[tawny sapphire]

yeah which is why you avoid jumping in basically any boss ever unless you have to do it to dodge

[orchid flower]

I’ll probably put a solid 5 hours in with the mod that makes her do only one attack. If I still haven’t improved by then I’ll probably just stop

[tawny sapphire]

gl

[orchid flower]

Sorry for wasting y’all’s time lol I feel like I’m not super receptive to this

[robust ridge]

there has to be something that's not reaction time

like i've found there's zero correlation between reaction time and struggling to dodge the attack

[vague fern]

dont push urself to keep pumping attempts but eventually it'll just click tbh

[tawny sapphire]

it's fine dw

[orchid flower]

It’s taking so long it feels like it’s just not gonna happen

[tawny sapphire]

how long have you spent on this?

[orchid flower]

I’ve practiced her for about 60 hours total

[tawny sapphire]

💀

[orchid flower]

It’s the only attack in the game I feel is poorly designed, tho it’s likely just an emotional reaction to not being able to handle it

Since there are obviously people that have no trouble with it

[robust ridge]

there's also a good chance you're continuing to struggle with it because you're tilted

if it's gone on for that long

[orchid flower]

I mean I’ve taken multi-week breaks throughout the whole thing, I’m not sure what more I can do

[robust ridge]

a tilted mindset can persist

[solid heart]

Look at my time after my break before my clear

[robust ridge]

it's more about what you're consciously bringing in

[solid heart]

That was the peak of tiltedness

[orchid flower]

I think it’s just a little ridiculous to spend so long learning one attack if it’s just cause I’m angy

[robust ridge]

as long as you think the attack is poorly designed you probably have a bit of a tilte mindset going in

and ik that's not an easy thing to get rid of

[solid heart]

Titled mindset is genuinely the worst

You can't easily see it

[robust ridge]

but idk what else to suggest

yeah

[solid heart]

But it makes you play like shit

And that feeds a negative feedback loop that makes you more tilted

That's why losing streaks are a thing

And you can spend hours doing nothing because of your mental at that point

[robust ridge]

i think the ||first boss curse|| is a great example of this

[solid heart]

Maybe a break is deserved

Like, 3 weeks/1 month

[orchid flower]

I took such a long break I did 2 Silksong 100%’s haha

[robust ridge]

i took such a long break after getting tilted on ||boundless purity final phase|| that i forgot how to play the boss

[solid heart]

Didn't you clear ||P5EB super recently?||

[solid heart]

Not knowing how to play is better than being tilted

[orchid flower]

Yea I came back to it like a week or two ago to do that but didn’t touch it again after

||P5EB|| was really easy

[robust ridge]

especially when it's a final phase thing

[orchid flower]

I just wanted my ||journal entry|| lol

[robust ridge]

nerves + tilted = guaranteed lose

[orchid flower]

I’m at a point where I need to understand why the attack is hard before I can rationalize dedicating more of my life to it

Cause truthfully I don’t think it should be this bad

[vast carbon]

gimme help

[orchid flower]

Which attacks are getting ya?

[vast carbon]

||the dash and jump one||

in which he also leaves behind flames

[robust ridge]

no one likes this answer but the attack might just be hard because you expect it to be hard

[orchid flower]

||irs generally safest to just dash away from him. If not possible, jump and dash towards him||

[uncut iris]

||double jump above that||

[cyan rapids]

||i just came back to hk after grinding silksong nonstop for like 2 weeks straight||

||all the controls feel sluggish to me suddenly and i keep trying to sprint and dodge attacks 😭 ||

[robust ridge]

are you getting hit by the ||falling flames||

like which part of that attack specifically

[orchid flower]

I know the mental stuff is real but I’ve spent so long on this over so many months, most of the time genuinely not being tilted and willing to understand that I just don’t get it yet, that I’m not sure I can believe that’s all it is

[cyan rapids]

oooh that one sucks

[woven harness]

Knight aint built to be a gymnast

[vast carbon]

that yea

most

[cyan rapids]

||i also keep trying to heal mid air 😭 ||

[vast carbon]

also the flame missiles

[robust ridge]

go to the place where he left the ground

that's always safe

[vast carbon]

I see

[robust ridge]

||wait for them to all come out then jump and dash between the first two||

[vast carbon]

are there any attacks where its safe to get a hit in

[sage fossil]

There are plenty actually

[cyan rapids]

||after you do what he said to do with the flame missles you can generally get a couple hits in||

[robust ridge]

i mean the attack is literally all reactions

but you have a ton of control over your reaction time, there's just so many factors that can add to it

mental things like that can easily have an effect

[vast carbon]

I see

[cyan rapids]

||also when he divebombs and dashes you can pogo on his head||

[woven harness]

||generally almost all of the attacks have the opportunity to be used as your opening. The safest being the four pillars of flame and firebats||

[robust ridge]

like if you're believing you reaction time just isn't good enough your reaction time actually is just not good enough as a result

[sage fossil]

Every single attack of his has a punish window except for the ground spike

[vast carbon]

ohh thats a bit tricky

[golden rampart]

||what area is generally after the ancient one||

[vast carbon]

|| The kingdom's edge||

[orchid flower]

I know what you’re saying is right I suppose

[woven harness]

Here is a thing i noticed: ||NKG is one of the hardest bosses because you never dealt with someone as aggressive, fast and double damage dealing in the vanilla game. Therefore you have to actually get used to the speed NKG demands of you||

[orchid flower]

Just don’t know why this one thing of all things makes me feel that way

[woven harness]

But it feels so good when you learn him

[cyan rapids]

||i tried fighting him after i took a break from hk for like 2 weeks to play silksong and damn it does not feel good to have to rely on spamming dash again rather than sprinting 😭 ||

[woven harness]

That is why i am saying that ||if 90% of Silksong bosses were in the first game instead of Grimm Troupe, we would have been fucked by how fast most of them are||

We'd have the cheese videos and all that

[cyan rapids]

||you never realize how useful sprint actually is until you're left high and dry without it

[merry coral]

If I die while I am in the ||dream realm|| would my ||steel soul save|| still be deleted?

[uncut iris]

no. the only exceptions are ||the radiance (not absolute radiance) and white palace||
not like you should easily die in ||white palace since it's all platforming unless you forget to equip grubsong + deepfocus or even just hiveblood lol||

[merry coral]

Alright thanks

[royal hull]

||any tips for the Nightmare King? All his attacks suck but man him sliding back sucks most||

[languid valve]

I finally beat ||pv|| in ||hog!¡|| I need to practice more before I try em in ||p4|| tho;p

[agile wigeon]

use ||nail build||, learn his moveset and try ||healing|| when he becomes ||a bat||

[unique knot]

Man, this ||Soul Tyrant|| guy... I figured out how to dodge all of his attacks somewhat reliably, but I just could not figure out when I was allowed to go offensive without getting punished for it. In the end I had to commit to a 10 minute fight where I only hit him ||in the back when he was dashing across the screen.|| Then the fight ||in the basement was over in about 10 seconds because he actually stood still for more than 300 milliseconds at a time||. Is there some other reliable way to get damage in on this guy when you fight him in ||Pantheon||, or is it still a 10 minute slog then as well?

[crude cliff]

||you can stand in front of him briefly when he summons balls in phase 1 if he is on the ground, the ball will miss and you can get 3/4 hits, there are a few more opportunities but a bit hard to describe via text||

He is one of my favorite fights

Also, while I dont have a perfect build myself I do not recommend the 2 charms I see on screen for any boss
I did use ||joni|| on 1 boss

You can copy the blocked message and edit it

[unique knot]

Yeah I liked the defensive movement. The offense just felt a bit like trying to catch an angry insect with chopsticks while dancing around it.

[crude cliff]

Do you have ||HoG|| yet?
(Slight spoiler but I think you already knew)

[primal harbor]

Let's gooo
||Soul Master||, I am coming for you... Eventually. When I get back on.

[crude cliff]

Hes fun

If you get the hang of it

And good music

[primal harbor]

Chat, any tips on ||Soul Master||?

[crude cliff]

@primal harbor This is one thing

You can save yourself time by copying thhe whole message and putting it as a whole spoilered

[unique knot]

Noted. I figured I wasn't going to get a chance to heal, so I went with a big health buffer. Turns out it wasn't needed (I only got hit once). I could probably have swapped the ||glowing womb||
for something else. I've just been leaning really hard into melee and haven't found a good cadence for weaving ||spells||
in yet. I figured that one just sort of attacks on its own and takes the mental stress off of me. I don't think I'd use it in a build when I thought I'd get a chance to heal though because it would consume all my soul.

[primal harbor]

Okay, thanks

I'll remember that when I get on

[unique knot]

Yeah I'll probably do that next time, thanks. It looks like it removes the spoiler tags from previously spoilered words when you copy it a second time as well.

[crude cliff]

I think the damage is really low
Also
There is a very good healing window @unique knot @primal harbor
If the boss goes over you with the balls around it, stand in the middle and heal, after its done the balls will miss you

[primal harbor]

oh, is @unique knot on the same part?

[crude cliff]

Sorta