hk-help

[brisk hearth]

||personally I might consider taking off soul catcher and putting on spore shroom+grubsong but it's a fine build for the amount of notches you have. if you're having trouble with combat you might also consider ditching the compass for something else||

[orchid flower]

There is a reward for all 20, it’s just not this room

[uncut iris]

||thorns for grubsong||

If you’re confident in exploration, use ||shaman stone|| over ||compass and soul catcher||

||shaman stone’s|| a very strong charm

[alpine marten]

no

what

wtf

[dry hamlet]

Hi lily

Im (koksiboks but on alt)

Cuz uh yes

[torpid wadi]

||thorns is a horrible charm btw, quite literally a nerf||

[alpine marten]

yea exactly

[dry hamlet]

Yes 100% agree

Top 3 worst charms

[zealous minnow]

okay, also i just got ||desolate dive|| pretty much, no ||dreamers||. i prefer to get as many upgrades as i can as soon as i can. where would i go next? i have ||wall jump||, ||dash||, and ||vengeful spirit|| as well

[dry hamlet]

Idk why pepole like it so much

[torpid wadi]

they meant put in ||grubsong||

[alpine marten]

oh

[torpid wadi]

perhaps try exploring the ||top right of forgotten crossroads||

[brisk hearth]

||how?? genuinely curious cuz I always thought it was a fine charm for new players but I havent used it in ages||

[alpine marten]

im just gonna stop talking now😭

[torpid wadi]

||it stops you from moving for a little after you get hit, reducing mobility and taking away precious iframes||

even if that wasnt a problem it doesnt vie much value

[brisk hearth]

ohhhh wow I had no idea lol!

[orchid flower]

Hiya!

[dry hamlet]

I did ||path of pain on steel soul today tmrw ima be done with 109%||

100%

[boreal plume]

What is the hardest part for ||p5||

[orchid flower]

The last 7 bosses

Everything else is basically the warmup

[boreal plume]

Can you say them so I can practice

[torpid wadi]

||markoth gpz nkg pv absrad||

is that the order?

wait theres ||fc|| somewhere

[orchid flower]

||Soul Tyrant, Markoth, Grey Prince Zote, Failed Champ, NKG, Pure Vessel, Abs Radiance||

[boreal plume]

||fc?||

[dry hamlet]

Last 6 bosses

[torpid wadi]

imo ||soul tyrant is quite free||

[dry hamlet]

We dont count ||soul he is free soul||

[torpid wadi]

||failed champ||

[boreal plume]

So without ||grey prince zote|| because I didnt save him

[dry hamlet]

||fc is also ez imo||

[dry hamlet]

So last 5 bosses

[torpid wadi]

almost 5k help messages putting in work

[boreal plume]

Oh thanks guys

[torpid wadi]

☹️

[dry hamlet]

Also if u die in an ||pantheon do u lose steel soul?||

[brisk hearth]

nope

[torpid wadi]

nah

[dry hamlet]

Was it tested video proof 😭

[orchid flower]

He can eat your ||lifeblood|| if u underestimate

[dry hamlet]

Lily i only lowk trust u

[orchid flower]

😅

[dry hamlet]

.

[orchid flower]

No

[torpid wadi]

that hurts

[dry hamlet]

Alr bet

[boreal plume]

Oh and btw do I need to do ||radiant|| on all ||pantheons|| for 112%?

[brisk hearth]

||I dont have video proof but Ive died numerous times in godhome in steel soul and never lost the run... most "dream" environments have this property (except radiance and maybe one other Im forgetting)||

[dry hamlet]

I mean she helped me through all 112% and stuff so

[torpid wadi]

||white palace||

[orchid flower]

No

[torpid wadi]

no

[boreal plume]

Ok thank god

[dry hamlet]

They are lying u have go

To*

If u die ur run restarts for 112%

[orchid flower]

I’m kind of excited to start ||hitless pantheons|| once I’m done with what I’m working on

[torpid wadi]

please no trolling in help channel

[dry hamlet]

Alr find

Fine*

[ornate abyss]

im doing my first playthrough and without spoilers is there any use for the seals outside of selling them

[dry hamlet]

Ni

No*

Mb on mobile so i might misspell alot of wordz

[torpid wadi]

nah, but you might want to save them until you need the money since they dont go away when you die

[brisk hearth]

bro said Ni

[boreal plume]

What do I need for 112% I have 109%

[dry hamlet]

Bro im on mobile 😭

[brisk hearth]

||just first 4 pantheons||

[ornate abyss]

but bank of mone tho

[torpid wadi]

some common misses are ||p4, colo 3, and 2400 essence||

[uncut iris]

It’s considered as a ||dream|| so no

[brisk hearth]

I know Im just teasin ya he he

[uncut iris]

Not even to ||absolute radiance||

[torpid wadi]

im assuming you have all the obvious powerups such as charms

[dry hamlet]

Ight bet lol

[boreal plume]

Oh I didnt know I needed ||2400 essence||

[torpid wadi]

you could also search up a 112 list online

probably the easiest

[boreal plume]

So I dont need ||p5||?

[dry hamlet]

All ||dream bosses and dream warriors||

[dry hamlet]

No

||p5 is a fun thing u can do||

[uncut iris]

It’s for ||an ending|| but not required for completion

[boreal plume]

Didnt know thanks

[boreal plume]

K Im gonna do that

[dry hamlet]

Anyway what can i skip for ||100% steel soul||

[bitter anvil]

||I skipped Colo3||

[dry hamlet]

||final mask colo 3 ||

[bitter anvil]

||also you can do pantheons because you don't die in godhome||

[dry hamlet]

Ight

[boreal plume]

Ok I checked so I need ||2400 essence trial of the fool and ngk||

[dry hamlet]

U can skip last part

[boreal plume]

No?

[dry hamlet]

||if u banish circus||

[dry hamlet]

Wdym no

[alpine marten]

no he can’t wdym

[orchid flower]

You don’t have to fight him, that’s correct

[alpine marten]

||but where’s the fun in that||

[dry hamlet]

If u already beat him and u just wana get it over with i suggest that and that's what ima do

[alpine marten]

he is fun asl

[dry hamlet]

For ||steel soul||

[alpine marten]

ok fair

[dry hamlet]

Ik but i dont wans rlly do that

[boreal plume]

How do I ||banish|| them?

[dry hamlet]

I dunno

[orchid flower]

Pay attention to how many flames there are

[dry hamlet]

I just know u can do that

[orchid flower]

You’ll notice something odd

[dry hamlet]

After u beat him the first try?

[orchid flower]

Yes, the final set of flames

There’s something special about it

[boreal plume]

I already beat him the first time

[dry hamlet]

So u have to collect 6?

[orchid flower]

Up until that point yes

But that’s not important

[dry hamlet]

Lowk ill just watch a tut

[orchid flower]

||There are 4 flames in the last wave||

[boreal plume]

Im to lazy

[orchid flower]

You should check out the most far removed one

Something interesting happens

[boreal plume]

Ok gonna check tommorow

[dry hamlet]

Im already in bed so ill do it tmrw since its almost 2 am

[boreal plume]

Same

[boreal plume]

Where are you from?

[dry hamlet]

Poland

Europe

[alpine marten]

tak

[dry hamlet]

O

[boreal plume]

Oh we live kinda close

[dry hamlet]

No i goacik

[dry hamlet]

Cool

[river osprey]

[alpine marten]

nie

[dry hamlet]

Tak

[boreal plume]

I live in moldova

[river osprey]

[dry hamlet]

This is hk help so uhhhh

[boreal plume]

K gn and thanks @orchid flower

[dry hamlet]

How do i get out of kingpass

[alpine marten]

later

[dry hamlet]

Ight bet ty

[ornate abyss]

so what do the cocoon markers on the map even mean?

[orchid flower]

Check one out!

[alpine marten]

nothing really important

[gritty coyote]

What are some tips to fight
||hornet||

[alpine marten]

||greenpath?||

[gritty coyote]

Yes

[alpine marten]

is there any specific attack youre struggling with

[gritty coyote]

Ye

[carmine holly]

try and dodge underneath her downwards attacks

[carmine holly]

which ones

[alpine marten]

…like?

[gritty coyote]

The one where she ||dashes||
towards you and when she throws her needle

[carmine holly]

try and jump up

[gritty coyote]

Ok

[alpine marten]

just jump over them, you can heal during those too

[carmine holly]

when you do, try and hit her

[gritty coyote]

Oh ok

[bold valve]

make minimal movements, all her attacks either need a jump or a ||dash||, rarely both

[alpine marten]

cro

[gritty coyote]

Ok thanks I’ll go try

[carmine holly]

he doesnt have ||dash||

[alpine marten]

😭😭😭😭

[bold valve]

then just jump then

[carmine holly]

also use ||vengful spirit|| (aka the nuke)

[gritty coyote]

I use that when I don’t need to heal

[zealous minnow]

is ||fury of the fallen|| good?

[torpid wadi]

generally it is not worth using

since the effect is not active most of the time

[orchid flower]

Only for optimized gameplay

Like a speedrun

[bold valve]

unless you can capitalize on it consistently, there are better options

[lone bough]

||guys how do i unlock p5||

[normal field]

Thank u!!

[orchid flower]

Beat the first four, have a certain charm

[lone bough]

ye ive done all of that

[orchid flower]

Then go to the top of ||Godhome||

[lone bough]

i||ve made it to the spa area but now am confused||

[orchid flower]

Go up into the ceiling

[lone bough]

done

oh

[spiral rover]

Can someone help? whenever i absorb this ||dreamer||, the screen goes white and i can't do anything, can someone help me with this?

[shut sparrow]

have you ever installed any mods?

[spiral rover]

No

[shut sparrow]

what's the grey thing in the bottom left?

[spiral rover]

Well i am playing it on this website on hollowknight.io

[alpine marten]

cro

[shut sparrow]

there you go

[alpine marten]

💔💔💔💔💔💔

[shut sparrow]

if you pirate a game on a website, don't expect it to work

[alpine marten]

its 14 dollars

[spiral rover]

Ok

[alpine marten]

at least download it from a good website bro

[spiral rover]

Well i didn't exactly pirate it, i just found it

I guess i'll look forward to actually buying it

[shut sparrow]

I hope you are referring to a website where you pay for the game, so steam or gog

[alpine marten]

i do not encourage piracy, but if you do it do it well

i remembered that

[spiral rover]

It doesn't show that it's that much for me

[alpine marten]

its not even much bro

50+ hours of gameplay

[spiral rover]

Ok

[shut sparrow]

500+ imo

[alpine marten]

i mean sure

[zealous minnow]

okay. what is the fastest way to get ||1600 geo||?

[spiral rover]

are you in early game, mid game, or late game?

[zealous minnow]

havent gotten a ||dreamer|| yet, but unlocked them. just beat ||the crystal area||

[spiral rover]

Well have you been to the ||colosseum of fools?||

[bright hamlet]

||top left greennpath, farm m0oss knights||

[zealous minnow]

nope

[bright hamlet]

uncspoiler

[alpine marten]

||deepnest failed tramway farm||

[zealous minnow]

is it just dying over and over?

[alpine marten]

no lol

[bright hamlet]

no

[alpine marten]

its easy farm

600-700 every 30 mins

[bright hamlet]

not sure if he has unlocked the area

[spiral rover]

Well maybe if you have things like ||hallownest seals|| or ||wanderers journals ||you can sell them to this person in ||city of tears||

[shell eagle]

why does this have to be spoiled

[zealous minnow]

and where is the nearest ||bug taxi|| here?

[alpine marten]

every image needs spoiler

[bright hamlet]

||its in an area not recommended to go

[shell eagle]

oh

[alpine marten]

||bug taxi||?

[bright hamlet]

||stagway||

[alpine marten]

oh

yea

[zealous minnow]

forgot the name of it

[bright hamlet]

||do u have double jump?||

[zealous minnow]

what room?

[bright hamlet]

actually nvm

[zealous minnow]

wish i did

[bright hamlet]

just go via ||queens station||

[bright hamlet]

||building on left of the statue||

[spiral rover]

somewhere around here

[bright hamlet]

||if we are talking about lemm, hes not in there||

[spiral rover]

wait what?

[bright hamlet]

he is here

[bright hamlet]

above

my bad

lol

[spiral rover]

I was talking about that place

[bright hamlet]

i saw a different room

[bright hamlet]

yeah mb lol 😭😭

[spiral rover]

It's ok

[worn prism]

how to open this door ?
i reached 90 % of the game and i'm copleteing it now

[wraith obsidian]

You have to have ||15 life blood masks||

[undone path]

Help me guys

Pls

[wraith obsidian]

Wassup?

[west garnet]

thought it was ||14||

[scenic egret]

depends on if ||jonis is equipped||

[worn prism]

how ?

[wraith obsidian]

Using ||charms||

[undone path]

So you know the|| zoat fight in the Colosseum of fools||

[wraith obsidian]

Yeah

[undone path]

Apparently,|| it’s in the god home DLC||

[wraith obsidian]

Ok

[undone path]

And I was just wondering, how do I get it?

[west garnet]

yes

[west garnet]

ok so

[wraith obsidian]

Idk, I haven’t done the ||godhome|| stuff

[west garnet]

||go to the second floor, all the way to the right||

[undone path]

Yea

[west garnet]

there should be a ||wall||

jump ||onto the wall and get as high as you can||

[undone path]

OK now what?

[west garnet]

then, ||crystal dash forwards||

||until the ceiling gets higher||

||and use wings to jump up, cling to the wall||

[undone path]

Yea?

[undone path]

Ok?

[west garnet]

then || just jump up until u reach a room

[undone path]

It’s blocked off by a wall

It’s not working

[west garnet]

send ss

[undone path]

Wait, never mind it’s breakable

[west garnet]

oh i think u got it

[undone path]

I SEE IT

THANK YOU 🙏

[west garnet]

ok welcome to the most glorious fight in the game

[desert salmon]

Everyone I’m fighting ||thk|| what charms should I use?

[restive coyote]

||Wayward compas trust||

[desert salmon]

Shut up

[royal vale]

🙏

[lapis canopy]

That's good already

[desert salmon]

Nothing else?

[restive coyote]

Just realized that’s my exact biuld

[desert salmon]

Should I sub ||longnail|| for ||mop|| and put in ||steady?||

[lapis canopy]

||U can change soul catcher for dash master for more mobility||

[lapis canopy]

No

[zealous minnow]

words cannot describe how much i hate those|| crystal theowing bugs||, how do you kill them

[lone bough]

||is p5 hard i beat it in 3 tries||

[lone bough]

soul

or wait

[lapis canopy]

It is kinda easy without binding

[lone bough]

alr

||should i do the bindings one at a time or||

[lapis canopy]

Yes ofc yes

[lone bough]

cuz thats like the last thing i need to do to beat the game and get weathered masks ALL THE BINDINGS

|| the first thing i struggled with was sob||

||and then rest was abs radiance||

||sob = sisters of battle btw||

[lapis canopy]

||I think beating p5 is already enough but okay u can try all bindings||

[lone bough]

BRO

I HATE THIS BOT BRO

[polar flicker]

Try one at a time

[lapis canopy]

||Sob is kinda easy for me||

[lone bough]

ye

[lapis canopy]

🖕

[lone bough]

||i practiced it and beat it||

[polar flicker]

Unless ur going for || p5ab||

But u need lot of practice for that

[lone bough]

||i beat ab||

[polar flicker]

|| on p5||?

[lapis canopy]

||I am trying to do rad hog now i am stuck at abs rad||

Cuz of bad luck

[west garnet]

||phase 4 is the hardest absrad phase||

[zealous minnow]

okay, whats the difference between ||decending dark|| and t||he other decent one you get from the spirit master||? and is there anything else left to do for ||crystal mound||, or is it just for that ||upgrade||

[vague fern]

More damage basically

it also has a different hitbox with the black bit above you

[zealous minnow]

okay, what is the fastest way to get to the other|| tram|| from the ||city of tears/crossroads|| one. i havent gone to the ||hive ||yet, havent beaten it at least

nvm got it

[lapis canopy]

The hardest for me is the third phase after nail rain

[desert salmon]

I should

||steady|| is good

[lapis canopy]

||Yea u should use it with qslash mb||

[west garnet]

thats phase 4

[lapis canopy]

How is that phase 4

[west garnet]

i didnt use ||steady|| until i started doing all ||hog||

[lapis canopy]

[west garnet]

according to wiki

cus first is jst normal

then ||second is technically the 1/2 spikes||

||3rd is technically the nail rain||

||4th is platforms||

||5th is the climb||

||6th is the final 2 platform||

thats wat the wiki says

[lapis canopy]

Okay

[desert salmon]

Ye u right

Okay so, ||qslash, shaman stone, grubsong, and longnail?||

[lapis canopy]

[lapis canopy]

Ye

[scenic egret]

you generally only need one of the three, which is why ||steady body is the best since its the least cost and provides better control(at the cost of like 2 frames when running away)||

[zealous minnow]

okay, is the ||defender's charm|| from the ||dung beetle boss|| even necessary? what does completing the ||sewers|| even do?

[west garnet]

u get to ||swim in acid||, thus unlocking some areas

u also get ||flukenest||, and the entire ||godhome dlc is in there||

[zealous minnow]

there's|| dlc||?

[vague fern]

no not really

theyre just updates but people call them that

[west garnet]

yeh technically

[orchid flower]

Yeah TC was doing the updates as non-paid DLC to receive criticisms before their first paid DLC(the original Silksong before it became its own game)

I believe that’s where the term stems from

[bleak gale]

To receive criticism?

[orchid flower]

It’s been a while since I read the stuff but it was smth along the lines of not wanting to make people pay until they were sure they could put out something great

[bleak gale]

Fair enough

[sage nova]

Does any1 have tips or can give help on beating ||pantheon 5||

[orchid flower]

Practice practice practice practice the last 6 bosses

If ur dying before reaching the end obviously practice the ones killing you

But once you reach the final 6 you absolutely need to practice them until you can beat them consistently

If ur unaware the final 6 are ||Markoth, Zote, Failed Champ, Nightmare King Grimm, Pure Vessel, and then the final boss||

Most likely you’ll die the first time you make it to the final boss but that’ll unlock it in ||Hall of Gods|| so you can practice it too

[rocky mantle]

||idk if this helps at all, but i tended to listen to videos in the background so the long slog of the early bosses is more manageable, then i pause it when i get to the hard stuff. Its not a gameplay help but it helped stave off frustration. Also a really strong build is shaman, quick slash, unbreakable strength and steady body. Also spell twister if you can fit it in somehow. Also if a particular boss is giving me a hard time, i'll try to beat them in the hall of gods on ascended so i have mastered a harder version the fight by the time i reach it and the stress of being unfamiliar with the boss wont get me killed.||

[summer echo]

||strength, mark of pride, quick slash, steady body||

actualy, it might not fit with ur playstyle so nvm

[sage nova]

Yo thank you all, I guess I just gotta practice more

[foggy anchor]

where do i go at stone place

i forgor what caled

[livid jackal]

What do I do after ||defeating the false knight||

[vestal estuary]

move left from boss room, go to the spot with the torches

[livid jackal]

I know that I'm talking about like what to do after || getting the double jump|| also ||I can't find the rules for spoilers||

[vestal estuary]

oh that, i think you meant ||broken vessel|| if you got ||the monarch wings||

uhh, it depends then

game is very non linear

[hoary anvil]

can we see a screenshot of your map?

[vestal estuary]

yes that would help

map needed

[hoary anvil]

also, the rules with regards to spoilers is to tag basically everything that's not ultra early game so that other people that are here to ask different questions don't get spoiled on irrelevant things. i'll pull up a message for it real quick

here's one that's important (in the pins). most notably:

• Aside from the words "Nail", " Soul & Focus (healing)", "Map", "Boss", "Charms", "Mask", "Geo", "Bench", and "Shop", consider everything else a spoiler
• Acronyms are also considered spoilers.

[lean pilot]

||Some people might ask how to leave the starting area yk? Skys the limit||

[vestal estuary]

i mean ||old nail|| is a spoiler according to the bot and it's starting equipment
unless it was changed?

yeah it still is

[lean pilot]

Its inclusive not exclusive

[livid jackal]

So I like I can't pull up a map sadly cuz I'm on mobile and can't really boot up hollow knight rn but I just got || the double jump||

[lean pilot]

Cool stuff

[vestal estuary]

yeah game is non linear and we can't really ask where you've been without spoiling
uhh describe what you can remember of your map

notable locations, areas, etc

you have 2 basic options which are try and find new areas or go back through old areas and gear up

honestly since you just got new movement you might consider the second

new spots in old areas are now accessible

[lean pilot]

1. Explore the game like if you just started
2. Check map for cut offs or incompletion

[vestal estuary]

yeah that's a big one, map cut offs are tells to new stuff for sure

[livid jackal]

That's what I been doing so far I've gotten ||the second nail upgrade|| and the ||upgraded fireball|| but other than that I done thong else and don't really know where to go next

[vestal estuary]

how much health do you have?

[livid jackal]

6 masks

[lean pilot]

||are you procrastinating deepnest ||

[hoary anvil]

if you want an area of the map where there's something important and don't care about spoilers as to where it is, there is something notable in the ||top right corner just off of crystal peak|| [which i know you've been to the area i'm using as a reference because ||crystal heart is a requirement for monarch wings||], in an area called the ||resting grounds||.

[vestal estuary]

ok, there are a couple more masks but it's up to you to look for them if you want

it will help but its not required

[lean pilot]

||Is it necessary? Could you pogo through||

[hoary anvil]

???

[lean pilot]

To the ability

||wings||

[vestal estuary]

ohh i know what you're talking about
yeah pogo is not an option

[vestal estuary]

not talking about that + you can't pogo to ||wings|| anyway

anyway i think this person needs to find ||the tram pass||

[hoary anvil]

well technically you can do a cursed and bizarre ||shade skip|| but who tf is doing that without it being pointed out to them

[hoary anvil]

that ... would also work i suppose

[drowsy tinsel]

how do u get white palaces map

[lean pilot]

||Dont procrastinate deepnest, just do it||

[vestal estuary]

there is no map lmao

[drowsy tinsel]

oh

ok

[hoary anvil]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (please see the pins for what is allowed, this changes between both games).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on each side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[lean pilot]

Unc spoiler
Let them have fun

Jk

[lean pilot]

Mods you missed a spot

||Censor white xd whats the worst that can hap||

[hoary anvil]

i personally was trying to guide them in the direction of (ITEM SPOILER) ||dream nail|| as ||that would also give the sense of direction they are looking for||

[vestal estuary]

there is a mod that can add one though (as well as one for endgame spoiler ||godhome||)

[lean pilot]

You cant get lost imo, either you fall or you enter spike room

[vestal estuary]

yeah i was sending them to ||the grave in ash|| but your suggestion is better for a first playthrough

[hoary anvil]

i suppose that works too, i was thinking your idea was ||upper tram|| lmao

[vestal estuary]

lol yeah, that's better as well

[hoary anvil]

?tag spoilers for reference

[languid radish]

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[proud anchor]

||anyone have tips for radiant pure vessel and nkg||

[hoary anvil]

any particular attacks you're having issues with?

[lofty crest]

||yea, i recently beat both of them. I found that the extra dash distance from sharp shadow helped with the pv dash and slash attacks, but ig in the end its just practice.||

[proud anchor]

||for pure vessel, soul focus/tendrils, for nkg its way too fast plus i struggle on pufferfish||

||full charm build?||

[lofty crest]

||shamans, strength, quick slash, shadow/twister||

[hoary anvil]

||pv focus ... of note you can use dive to iframe through the main burst and keep yourself on it. as for tendrils i usually pre-emptively jump for the attacks (to help counter dash and slashes) so i just kind of go over to it and then pogo/dive on it's head||

[orchid flower]

I wouldn’t use ||sharp shadow||, it messes with your muscle memory. You’re not always gonna have it ready

[hoary anvil]

no ||overcharm||? interesting decision

[orchid flower]

Every attack can be dodged without ||shade cloak||

[lofty crest]

idk, it just worked for me

[orchid flower]

There’s no downside to ||overcharming||, you should always do it

[lofty crest]

||yeah, for me tendrils was trickiest, if u just use wings max height when he uses it, u will dodge it.||

[lofty crest]

unless u r used to a specific build

[lean pilot]

||Just curious is there any other indications that pv will use tendrils? Because sometimes i mistake the teleporting away for silver dagger attack||

But might still be lack of experience

[orchid flower]

The meta is ||Quickslash, shaman stone, unbreakable strength, mark of pride||, or replace any of those with ||Soul Eater||

[hoary anvil]

as for ||nkg pufferfish ... there's a graphic i've seen about circle jumping, and like every 8th? one will be a double with the third one indicating the end of the attack (so you can prepare a dash slash or something if you want)||

[orchid flower]

Sound

It has a unique sound effect

[lofty crest]

||he will pause for like 1 sec and the tendrils will show||

[orchid flower]

Kinda sounds like a whooshing

[proud anchor]

||im pretty used to longail n mark of pride but ive started using more direct charms because i think ive gotten better spacing'||

[orchid flower]

||Mark of Pride|| is extremely powerful for hitless gameplay

It makes it a lot easier

[hoary anvil]

||elegy||:

[proud anchor]

||no grubsong😭||

[orchid flower]

Not as good due to less soul gain and damage

[lean pilot]

||Ig so but maybe i just need to react faster ||

[lofty crest]

||ik, my dash muscle memory is just messed up from using sharp shadow
😭||

[proud anchor]

||for the down jump i parry up and then shade cloak bc im not fast enough to instadash||

[lofty crest]

like for the sword spikes?

[hoary anvil]

doesn't matter if you can just never get hit when using it due to spacing ((i use it as a tech option for certain fights, such as iirc ||oro & mato||. also makes ||massive moss charger LITERALLY brainless|| but))

[proud anchor]

||the down jump yeah||

[orchid flower]

I’m not saying it’s not useful it’s just not the best charm

[hoary anvil]

also back on this, you can use ||dash|| to both ||airstall AND get closer to them so you can pogo/dive for damage||

[orchid flower]

I used it for ||Markoth|| my first run through, but not anymore

[lofty crest]

||i try to use ddark, but if theres no time i just jump and land in a safe spot||

[orchid flower]

Having extra soul generally makes it easier

[proud anchor]

||markoth sucked||

[lofty crest]

||markoth in p5 is genuinely worse than radiant nkg for me idk why||

[wise latch]

Okay, what's the deal with ||the black forcefields in Fog Canyon? Do I need to look around more to reverse them?||

[orchid flower]

||Radiant NKG|| isn’t much harder than normal

[lofty crest]

||look for a new ability||

[orchid flower]

But ||Markoth|| gets an insane boost

[vague fern]

[lofty crest]

yea

[polar flicker]

Yes u need a lategame item

[lucid raven]

Can you get more ||dream essence|| from fighting ||grey prince zote|| a second time? Or is it only in the first fight?

[lofty crest]

find the ||grave in ash||

[orchid flower]

Just the first one

[lucid raven]

Darn

Ive beat ||grey prince zote|| and ||white defender||. Where else can i get ||dream essence||?

Im very close to ||2500||

[wise latch]

That would be the ||shade dash|| I assume?

[polar flicker]

|| false knight has a stronger version and so does soul master||

[hoary anvil]

?tag uncspoilers btw, you don't need to be going into specifics on that that they may have never heard of when "||you probably can't now, come back later||" does the job

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[lofty crest]

||nah, look in kingdoms edge first||

[lucid raven]

Oh ive ||false knight|| as well lol. Forgot about that. I havent done ||soul master|| yet so ty!!

[polar flicker]

|| that give like 300-400||

[lucid raven]

Thats perfect

[lofty crest]

||but yes, it leads to shade cloak||

[polar flicker]

|| broken vessel has one too ||

[lucid raven]

Im ||300|| away

[lofty crest]

and ||dung defender||

[polar flicker]

U only need 2400

[lucid raven]

I know about that one but a little nervous about doing it lol

[wise latch]

Not there yet but I'll keep an eye out, thanks

[polar flicker]

He's already done it

[lofty crest]

ok

[lucid raven]

I thought it was 2500

?

[lofty crest]

2400

[polar flicker]

No it's 2400

[lofty crest]

u can get extra so u can waste it all on ||dreamgate||

[proud anchor]

||broken vessel||

[lucid raven]

I have mine put next to the ||godseekers|| corpse

[hoary anvil]

i quite like this one except for the fact that ||in itemless challenges phase 2 is impossible to hitless due to the variance on the slam offset being large enough to make it rng whether or not it's dodgable without using items (dash, dive, etc)||

[lucid raven]

I know

[polar flicker]

Pretty sure she's not doing an itemless run lol

[lofty crest]

same bro

[hoary anvil]

they aren't

i just said it anyways because i can

[lucid raven]

Im too lazy to run through the map to it lol

[lofty crest]

||any1 else hate the treck from junk pit to ity storerooms so u can use the stag||😭

[lucid raven]

OML YES

Its not hard, just annoying

[hoary anvil]

mine's at a ||stag station|| personally, but that is a valid choice as well that i used to use

[lofty crest]

fr, i lowk speedrun it from how many times i had to do it lol

[polar flicker]

|| mine is next to elder bug||

Bench

[lofty crest]

||u walk from storerooms to godhome? bravery.||

[proud anchor]

||delicate flower quest 😭||

[hoary anvil]

i mean the other option is ||walking from godhome to stag whenever i want to leave, which is the same amount of walking either way in that case, while having it at the stag is more general purpose||
-# also, ||tactical cdashes to king's station is faster iirc, if you know where in the rooms to place them||

[lofty crest]

yea, thats true. ig as you finish up the main game stuff, u end up staying ||in godhome longer, for radiant fights, pantheons, etc.||

[hoary anvil]

if you're there to stay then at that point it no longer matters where you've decided.
-# my main file left a couple times to do silly things like harvest every geo rock

[lofty crest]

lol

[lucid raven]

Ok this is bugging me and I swear something is different: when defeating a new ||dream variant boss for the first time|| does it increase your damage slightly? Because I killed a few ||winged sentries and lances|| and it took two hits and going through that area again after beating ||grey prince zote||, they only take one. Am I going crazy?

I havent ||upgraded my nail|| at all since then. I have the ||pure nail||

[lofty crest]

yes, go to a mental hospital

[lofty crest]

||did u put on unbreakable strength or something?||

[lucid raven]

I have it on all the time

So nothings changed

Maybe I am crazy

[lofty crest]

hmmm

[exotic wharf]

never heard of an issue like that

[exotic wharf]

probably

[exotic wharf]

||lances the ones in waterways?||

[lucid raven]

Anyways, anyone know where theres a ||crystallized miner||? Can't find one and I need one for the ||journal||

[lucid raven]

||city of tears||

[lofty crest]

look at the ||crown||

[lucid raven]

Ty

[exotic wharf]

I don't remember the names of enemies honestly

[lofty crest]

its in a pink area

[lucid raven]

I know, I need one more for the second entry

Im trying to get everything i missed for the ||journal||

[exotic wharf]

fair enough

[lofty crest]

i havent bothered getting ||hunters mark|| yet

[exotic wharf]

same

[empty wharf]

there are sites with checklists

[lucid raven]

I know

I was asking where a specific enemy was

[empty wharf]

which one?

[lucid raven]

I found it

[empty wharf]

maybe it's ||garpede or goam||?

[lucid raven]

No i found it already

I have both of those

It was something else

[random ember]

Should I ||deliver the fragile flower? cuz i dont wanna miss any endings (ts game is too long im NOT starting another run)||

[native tinsel]

It ||doesn’t give any extra endings||

[random ember]

i thought it ||locks u out of one?||

[native tinsel]

Yes, but not the ||orginial quest.||

Can you show you inventory then, maybe I can explain it better

[random ember]

uhhh here?

[native tinsel]

Yea

[random ember]

i ||didn't accept the quest yet||

[native tinsel]

Alr, giving the ||flower to an npc (that you haven’t found yet) at very late game replaces the final ending||

But the ||the flower is meant to be put on the grave of the traitor lords son in queens gardens||

[native tinsel]

You can always do this later

[bold storm]

its hard

i failed at the uh spike place

pmo

[random ember]

||doing it now will lock me out of the main ending forever? Like, will i have to start a new run js for it?||

[exotic wharf]

||I think he should worry about the flower ending later||

[random ember]

||path of pain?||

[bold storm]

||delicate flower||

[native tinsel]

Yes, that’s what I’m trying to say

[exotic wharf]

||yea so do it before giving the flower to the npc||

[native tinsel]

It’s basically the same ||ending just with a very small detail||

[vague fern]

it really doesnt matter tbh, it doesnt lock you out of any achievement, the process is the same and the cutscene hardly differs

[bold storm]

thats a thing?

[exotic wharf]

the fate of hollownest is different tho 🙏🏻

[random ember]

||is there anything else that will lock me out of an ending? (but can be done later after finishing the main one)||

[exotic wharf]

oh wow what a spoiler the game has an ||ending||

[native tinsel]

You need to understand that there is a difference between the ||flower quest and the flower ending||

[vague fern]

its more the fact its plural i think

[exotic wharf]

yea you can do all ||endings|| in one game file

ending

yea fair enough

[bold storm]

i havent done the quest but i got ||hollowknight ending and radiance ending||

[native tinsel]

There are 5 ||endings in total|| right?

[exotic wharf]

there's one that's a lot harder then the rest

[polar flicker]

6

[random ember]

let me get this straight. ||You put the flower on the grave of a certain person (which is what's intended)....BUUUUT you could also give it to an npc to get an ending (that you can do after beating hollow knight)||

[bold storm]

oh hell no i thought that was ||radiance|| was the end

[vague fern]

eh i dont really count || mr mushroom || as an || ending||

[bold storm]

i will never get to play silksong

[polar flicker]

Oops

[polar flicker]

True

[native tinsel]

Yes, and you can do ||the second thing always later||

[exotic wharf]

technically but that's another story

[exotic wharf]

yea it's a funny esteraegg

[random ember]

ok thank you, but what about ||the void heart or smth like that? I heard it locks u out of the main one||

[native tinsel]

Yes that’s correct

[exotic wharf]

yep it can

[random ember]

i can always do it later tho

[exotic wharf]

yea

[native tinsel]

But you also need it for ||2 endings||

[vague fern]

4

all but first need it

[random ember]

then ill do ||the main ending then come back for the other 2||

[polar flicker]

The || main ending can only be done without vh ||

So do that first then the others

[random ember]

wait if ||the flower gets damaged, can I get it again?||

[native tinsel]

Yes

[random ember]

thank god

[haughty hound]

I just started hollow knight and the game does not detect inputs from my xbox controller and if I try my ps5 dualsense controller in the main menu the select thing will constantly move up and once I load in my character constantly moves to the left and even if I turn the controller off the inputs continue to happen forcing me to close the game. I would rather not play this on keyboard and mouse so any help would be appreciated

[rain current]

All i can say if the character moves to the left thats drift

😭

[vale osprey]

you should go for 112% its really good

[rain current]

I am

[vale osprey]

mhm goodjob

[random ember]

uhhhhh ||you can give the delicate flower to 2 npcs + that grave. Which one locks u out of the ending?||

[haughty hound]

It is not, my controllers work fine with every other game in my steam library, it is something wrong with hollow knight

[rain current]

The grave

[random ember]

and|| which one is needed to progress?||

[rain current]

The one in ||waterways in the junk pit if you mean progress the ending||

[random ember]

what about ||dirtmouth?||

[rain current]

I dont think so

[random ember]

i heard that ||if u give it to the grave, she won't give u a flower anymore...I am so confused about what i should do 😭||

||i dont want to get locked out of the main ending||

[rain current]

||give it to the other npcs first||

Oh

[rain current]

There is no ||main ending, all are canon||

[random ember]

im talking about ||the "embrace the void" one||

[rain current]

||the flower doesnt lock you out of it||

Nothing does

[random ember]

||In Hollow Knight, giving the Delicate Flower to the Godseeker locks you out of the standard "Embrace the Void" ending (Ending 4)||

which one is that?

[rain current]

Huh

Its the same ending

Just with a special cutscene

[random ember]

i wanna witness both >:(

[rain current]

You can't unless you do 2 save files

Also you have to go through hell to get the ending aswell

[random ember]

ok so ||ill just give it to the grave and then to the other npcs (except godseeker)||

[rain current]

||if you give it to the grave you cant have any more flowers||

[uncut iris]

No you can

[rain current]

You can?

[random ember]

||they said it grows there and u can get an unlimited amount||

[uncut iris]

You just have to get it ||from the grave||

[rain current]

Stealing ||flowers from someone's grave|| is insane

💀

[random ember]

itiswhatitis

[pulsar lotus]

i swear i saw someone get to ||sheo|| without ||dash|| or ||double jump|| once but i cannot find the video, doe anyone have a link to it

[random ember]

where do i get this??

[pulsar lotus]

||deepnest||

[random ember]

.... i havent been there

:D

[short wren]

school got cancelled so its hk time

[pulsar lotus]

best way to get there is from ||fungal wastes|| if youve been there, if you havent then you'll want to wait a while before grabbing the item

[random ember]

im supposed to|| deliver the delicate flower to the dirtmouth guy... and there is NO way im survivng without that pass||

[pulsar lotus]

i dont think you can use the ||trams|| with ||flower||

oh wait i think you can

i just never do lol

[short wren]

where do i go in ||city of tears from the bench with the cool dude sitting on it||

cuz i already got ||black egg||

[lucid raven]

Where is the ||second part of the path of pain||?

[lucid raven]

Do you mean ||quirrel||?

[lucid raven]

Nope you cant

[pulsar lotus]

||if you head back to the mantis village, after the boss there you can head into deepnest, its kinda a maze but if you explore long enough im sure youll find it, i can send a map if you want||

[short wren]

yes

idk his name

[lucid raven]

Just go to places in ||city of tears|| you havent gone to yet

Go through paths you havent gone through

[short wren]

i dont have a map and idk where to get one

[lucid raven]

||cornifer|| has it. You just gotta explore man

The whole point of the game is to explore

[short wren]

ik but im bad with directions

[lucid raven]

Theres no right or wrong direction

Just pick a direction

[pulsar lotus]

i believe you can? all my sources are only saying itll break from taking damage or using a ||stag||

[jovial light]

||where on the map do i get the deep focus charm?||

[lucid raven]

It breaks on the ||tram||

[pulsar lotus]

source?

||https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1315773526||

[primal tangle]

It doesnt

[lucid raven]

Ive literally tried to use the ||tram|| and it breaks

[primal tangle]

or does it

[primal tangle]

it doesnt

[pulsar lotus]

im just gonna get there and test it

[short wren]

i found paper on the floor

nicee

[lucid raven]

I could've sworn it breaks

[short wren]

had to quit because i was about to die and lose my geo

[lucid raven]

You dont "lose" your geo. Unless you mean you died already and youre going to retrieve your ||shade||

[short wren]

yeah i already died

oh god im too poor for a map

[pulsar lotus]

i can confirm the ||flower|| does not break on ||trams||

[vague fern]

real parkourman

[short wren]

im gonna kill ||zote|| the moment i get a chance

is ||royal wagterways|| the next area i need to go to?

[primal tangle]

you choose

[short wren]

oh

well i used the ||simple key|| to get here

[primal tangle]

you can go to ||kingdoms edge royal waterways queens garden etc (the hive)||

[primal tangle]

then go ig

[low thorn]

Definetly

[calm badger]

Do i need all ||grubs for 112%||?

[pulsar lotus]

yeah for a ||charm|| among other things

[calm badger]

fuck

Ok nvm|| 100% is enough||

[pulsar lotus]

anyone know how i did wall cling storage here?

[coarse nest]

Current patch wallclingstorage is physics frame perfect right?

[pulsar lotus]

i guess maybe, im not on the beta and these are my only mods

[smoky fractal]

it is I'm pretty sure

[acoustic sigil]

It's not, it's just not very useful

You might be thinking of the inventory drops, which are physics frame perfect

[jovial light]

Chat how do i leave the ||crystallised mound||

i got the ||grub|| and now im stuck

Nvm i died

I have no ||rancid eggs|| i have to go back

Okay my question stands again how do i leave

Okay ive died again im just gonna find an ||egg||

[pulsar lotus]

im pretty sure the exit it close to the ||grub||

its like towards the left of it i think

[versed spear]

How to beat the ||watcher knights||

Can someone help?

[pulsar lotus]

||right outside of their arena theres a breakable ceiling, you can break the rope in there to kill an extra one||

[versed spear]

Ive done that

I need tips

[acoustic sigil]

Can you send an image of your inventory

[versed spear]

Alr

Wait inventory?

[acoustic sigil]

Yes

[versed spear]

Like ||charms||?

[acoustic sigil]

Like the menu that has the word inventory above it

[versed spear]

Alr

How to spoiler attachments bruh

[acoustic sigil]

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[versed spear]

Now don't ask me "is that ||hollow knight|| on mobile"

Anything else

[empty vine]

Is that Hollow Knight on mobile?

[pulsar lotus]

i was wondering that

[versed spear]

Motherfu-

[acoustic sigil]

||Dive is your best bet, your strategy should be to hit them a couple of times to get soul, get above them and use dive. Dive can also be used to get out of tough situations with the iframes||

[versed spear]

What ||charms|| should I use

I have ||7 notches||

[pulsar lotus]

send a screenshot

[versed spear]

Hp and damage chipping

[pulsar lotus]

||id use shaman stone, mark of pride, and grubsong||

[versed spear]

Alr

Thanks

[pulsar lotus]

ofc, gl

||but yeah dive is really good, especially when you pair it with shaman stone, just play safe and dont get greedy and you'll be fine||

[alpine marten]

||mop|| mid

[pulsar lotus]

just nice to get hits safely on guys like ||watcher knights||

plus imo its fun so who cares if its mid

[alpine marten]

i dont really think its necessary or helpful but ok

[vague fern]

I mean its arguably a top 5 charm and they dont have things like || qslash or strength ||

[alpine marten]

very arguably

[pulsar lotus]

what else would they use?

[smoky fractal]

||MoP|| is top 5 especially for newer players

[vague fern]

No worse than 7th

and when they dont have half of the top 6 its a good idea

[alpine marten]

||soul catcher and sbody||

even tho i hate it

[alpine marten]

wasnt for me

[smoky fractal]

||sbody|| is bad without ||quickslash||

[alpine marten]

its always bad imo

[vague fern]

Eh bad is a bit harsh but its not good

[smoky fractal]

either way I would recommend ||MoP|| in this case

[sonic moss]

hello chat

been a lil while

[stoic monolith]

hello

hru

[quaint laurel]

do i not need ||to defeat gray prince zote more than once?||

[vague fern]

Nope

[quaint laurel]

vro 😭

ggs

[vague fern]

I mean defeating him once isnt even needed but after that is just for the gold statue

[alpine marten]

almost no boss is needed

[quaint laurel]

well i wanna 100% the game

[alpine marten]

then yea

[vague fern]

He isnt needed for 112, technically no || dream bosses || are

[alpine marten]

what?

[vague fern]

The || essence || is helpful though

[alpine marten]

wdym

||you cant get to 2400 can you?||

[vague fern]

For || p4|| you just need their original version, and || nkg || you can kick out

[vague fern]

Every enemy had a chance to give some so technically you can, it'd just be miserable

Doing 4/5 is always recommended

[alpine marten]

i mean it would take forever

they give 10 each

[stoic monolith]

my charms build is good?

[dreamy bolt]

How to open this

[short zinc]

u cant

u have to go under like in || Queens station|| i thikn

[alpine marten]

||king’s*||

[alpine marten]

depends, what for?

[stoic monolith]

i like using|| spells||

[alpine marten]

so for a boss?

[stoic monolith]

yea

for bosses and exploring

[alpine marten]

then take off ||compass and spell twister and use qslash||

[vale thorn]

best trust.

[stoic monolith]

okay

||when im gonna fight boss i will change copass and spell twister to qslash||

[alpine marten]

yep

[left tusk]

Mod needed in ss vc

[lethal siren]

what

Oh

Mod as In discord mod

I thought silksong mod

[remote trench]

Any tips to beat|| Pure Vessel?||

[rose plover]

how do you beat ||p3|| ||sly||?

[hollow veldt]

What do i need to do after i gor || crystal heart || and already went to || dirthmounth ||

[vague fern]

Anything in particular?

[rose plover]

||go ancient basin and get monarch wings||

any tips for ||p3 sly||

[hollow veldt]

That sounds like next to || royal waterways||

[vague fern]

|| only attack him after he attacks. For example, keep distance until he does the triple hit move, dash under the spin and hit him a few times. Try to use shade souls when hes at a distance.

In phase 2 start in the middle, when he spins at you, dash away and great slash, shade soul, or nail hit (with MoP) and immediately recenter||

And most importantly incase you arent: practise in || hall of gods ||

[idle wigeon]

Yo wassup sigmas

[stray plover]

ok im losing it
||anyone have a good loadout for the trial of the fool?
I have only 8 masks cuz I need 2 mroe shards that who tf knows where they are but whatevs||

[stray plover]

dying :3

[formal harness]

Charms?

What do you have

[stray plover]

||atm I was using Mark of pride, unbreakable strength, grubsong, soul catcher, thorns...my usual||

[stray plover]

mmh

[stray plover]

uhh...a few

sorry too lazy to ss

dint ask me where those 4 are
gotta progress ig

[formal harness]

Why are you not using ||quickslash|| lol

[stray plover]

idk never used it...is it good? XD

[formal harness]

Its one of the best charms in the game imo

[native tinsel]

It’s the best haha

[formal harness]

Ive used it for everything

[vague fern]

best in the game

[stray plover]

sybau

[formal harness]

Most useful imo

[stray plover]

||its 3 notches thooo||

[formal harness]

Its worth it

Also you have 10 ntches

[stray plover]

oh ye

XD

[native tinsel]

It technically does more ||damage then strenght:)||

[stray plover]

dps :3

[native tinsel]

Yes lol

[stray plover]

ill keep ||grubsong|| and replace the ither 2

[alpine marten]

2nd best actually

[native tinsel]

Don’t say ||shaman|| pls

[alpine marten]

no

what

😭

[stray plover]

ok its good tbh

[summer echo]

its actually ||steady body||

[alpine marten]

i hate it

[stray plover]

🥲

ok im a noob but thats far from it

[alpine marten]

||fury|| on top

[stray plover]

...I like it-

[native tinsel]

You’re one of those…

[formal harness]

Change ||m.o.p to long nail and also for me i might remember having used long nail, quickslash, unbreakable strength, grubsong, and smth||

[alpine marten]

in early-mid its good

[stray plover]

yah

[alpine marten]

i cant use it, but its objectively the best

[vague fern]

i mean || shaman || is probably overall better for ||overworld|| but the second you include || godhome|| its || qslash||

[stray plover]

||occasionally when i can fight a boss that i can use spells on
I use descending dark a lot and its fone||

[native tinsel]

If the player is the best, that charm is also the best yes

[vague fern]

well then its || flukes||

[alpine marten]

you dont have to be the best

[native tinsel]

I can’t survive 5 sec with 1hp ✌️

[vague fern]

but || qslash|| is still better (||soul gain||)

[alpine marten]

me nrither, so?

[stray plover]

||ya but ik that long nail doesnt have as much range as mark if pride||

[formal harness]

Ik

Its still good lol

[alpine marten]

less ||notches||

[formal harness]

Its only so i have more ||notches|| for other charms

[alpine marten]

||grubsong|| 3rd best

[stray plover]

ya and less range

[native tinsel]

||fury only works on 1hp, so you only benefit from it on 1hp||

[alpine marten]

ratio is good

[vague fern]

overall??

[stray plover]

oki

[formal harness]

Currently i have 11 ||notches|| so idk exactly wha charm build to recommend

[stray plover]

then ill put ||thorns|| back

[alpine marten]

yes i know. the fact that me or you arent able to use it doesnt make it bad

[native tinsel]

Yall are all wrong

[alpine marten]

NO

[alpine marten]

yea

[stray plover]

.....WHER-

[native tinsel]

||compass 🗿||

[vague fern]

we've so lost the plot

[stray plover]

??

[formal harness]

I lowk dont use t.o.a

[vague fern]

good, its arguably the worst in the game

[native tinsel]

All charms are different ||for every player||

[alpine marten]

bottom 10 charms ngl

[formal harness]

Fr

[alpine marten]

yea but if we talk objectively ||fury|| is best

[vague fern]

its not

[alpine marten]

cause if you can use it its peak

[formal harness]

||fotf|| and u.b you can easily kill opponents lol

[stray plover]

||pookie I meant that
if im taking off m.o.p. for longnail im putting back thorns in the loadout||

[native tinsel]

But most people can’t

[alpine marten]

yea i know

it sucks

[stray plover]

nuh uh

[formal harness]

||fotf|| is a Pseudo trump card

[alpine marten]

and?

[vague fern]

i can use it and i can still say (1) the difficult isnt negligible and (2) it isnt the best either way

its 3rd

[stray plover]

||want me to use spore shroom?||

[native tinsel]

So it isn’t the best charm in the game since not everybody can use it

[formal harness]

Whatsyour nail build anyway

[primal tangle]

||is shadow dash valid for pure vessel||

[native tinsel]

Ofc

[primal tangle]

||how do u struggle with galien 🙏||

[alpine marten]

best player out there using ||fury|| will have better results than using ||qslash|| plus you get it at the start

[vague fern]

yes? do you mean the charm?

[primal tangle]

ye

[alpine marten]

that doesnt change the fact bro

[stray plover]

....I got it recently cuz I missed it

[formal harness]

Eh but its ||trial of the fool tho||

[native tinsel]

Because it’s the best player

[alpine marten]

yea

[formal harness]

Not like you should take off f.o.t.f

[native tinsel]

If not everybody can use it it’s not the best charm

[vague fern]

well no, i did all of || p5 with fury|| and even if you ignore the difficulty its still 3rd..

|| qslash is barely less dps than fury but also generates a shit ton of soul.. which is more dps ||
|| also flukes exist.. if we're assuming a high skill player then flukenest is unfair ||

[alpine marten]

bro thats js a stupid argument

[vague fern]

and that isnt a stupid argument at all

[stray plover]

oh btw random question
||does anyone actually use Nail Techniques?||

[native tinsel]

I mean everyone can use ||q slash to be better at the game and almost nobody can use fury and be better at the game that’s what I’m trying to say||

[vague fern]

yes, theyre hard to learn but are great when you do

[primal tangle]

yes

[formal harness]

Yes

But not all the time

[alpine marten]

||qslash|| has a lot less dps wdym

[stray plover]

dam ._.
I dont rlly like em tbh

[vague fern]

its not 'alot', but like i said it generates loads more soul

and || flukenest|| does exist

[native tinsel]

THe only difference is that ||IF you can use fury it’s wayy better than q slash||

[alpine marten]

most people cant beat ||markoth||, doesnt mean its a hard boss

[vague fern]

😭

we've so lost the plot

[native tinsel]

Whaa

That does not make sense at all

[formal harness]

||its more useful with nailmaster's glory||

[vague fern]

@smoky fractal feast ur eyes

[primal tangle]

||how to unlock radiance in godhome|||

[vague fern]

|| reach her in p5 ||

[native tinsel]

Some charms require skill to be good and some don’t

[alpine marten]

yea

but in an ideal situation the ones who require skill are usually better

[native tinsel]

Yes

[smoky fractal]

on?

[native tinsel]

But not in general

[vague fern]

|| fury as #1 charm, and that it being hard to use (1 hp requirement) isnt a good argument for it losing merit ||

[alpine marten]

i cant use ||sbody|| but that doesnt make it bad

[smoky fractal]

it does work on ||nail arts||

[native tinsel]

No because it’s good in general

[vague fern]

|| even if we assume an ideal situation, qslash + soul gain >, flukenest > ||

[smoky fractal]

anyway|| qs|| is better so

[alpine marten]

its really not wtf😭

[vague fern]

i cant even read this anymore im losing my mind

i just wanted you to experience it

[formal harness]

||fury|| def worked as just easily staggering or killing the boss or enemy to give time to heal

Especially mixing it with u.s

[alpine marten]

exactly

[native tinsel]

It is

[vague fern]

it doesnt change || stagger|| values

[smoky fractal]

||quickslash|| is just better though

[vague fern]

(except for 2 bosses)

[formal harness]

I never said that lmao

[alpine marten]

FUCK

[smoky fractal]

we should move this to hk disc