hk-help

[orchid flower]

||If I were you, I’d put on Quickslash, and honestly the only other charm I would think would make a significant difference in this battle is quick focus(makes healing less scary). It’s generally a nail centric fight||

[high heron]

does ||the hollow knight|| have multiple phases cause this feels pretty easy for what it’s meant to be

[orchid flower]

It’s a fairly easy battle

[high heron]

oh well i’ve lost more than i’d like to admit #oops

feels easy though

[desert salmon]

Okay, ||quick focus and slash||, ||2 notches left||

[orchid flower]

You have to wear the baby

[desert salmon]

Righttt

I forgot abt that

[desert salmon]

Any tips for him?

I usually learn a bosses moves in the first few attempts

Which usually works

But he’s very quick

[orchid flower]

He’s a call-and-response battle. He teleports to specific positions to carry out a small set of unique attacks. Each one has a different way of being dodged and countered. He’s one of the most consistent bosses in the game once you master each move

||When he lunges forward, just dash back and then stand next to where he jumped from to dodge the flames. You can get a hit in here if you’re quick||

||When he sends bats, jump and dash towards him. This is your main chance to wail on him||

||When he grounds himself, jump before he dashes into you, you can get a pogo in||

At 25% health increments he does his bullet hell attack, just watch the ground for bullets and jump over them. Don’t worry about anything else

I just remembered his spike attack but dodging it is pretty intuitive

[upper storm]

||grimm is easy||

nmk is harder

oh ye when you die in a ||dream or pantheon, do you lose save in steel soul?||

[orchid flower]

No

[flint rain]

nah

[vague fern]

Only 2

[upper storm]

ok

[orchid flower]

Only in ||The Radiance and White Palace||

[flint rain]

It’s a dream

[upper storm]

no

[orchid flower]

Those are dreams but they’re scary dreams I guess lol

[languid ravine]

guys i am stuck at || p4 and i wanna start again should i make another save ||

[vague fern]

[upper storm]

bro ||white palace is a dream||

[high heron]

welp guess so

[vague fern]

You still die

[orchid flower]

Dying there loses the save

[high heron]

so that was ||a bad ending??|| what about ||the radiance||?

[orchid flower]

If you return to a bench then you die

[upper storm]

path of ||pain|| ):

[vague fern]

|| hiveblood ||

[orchid flower]

You have to be a bit more completionist for that

[flint rain]

Which ending?

[high heron]

speed smirk gif

[high heron]

||the one where you absorb the hollow knight||

[orchid flower]

You could also be exotic and use ||grubsong, Grubberfly’s elegy, and deep focus|| so death is impossible

[flint rain]

there’s technically two

Is || hornet there||

[vague fern]

Very possible when i forget to heal

[high heron]

no

[flint rain]

Oh

[orchid flower]

Oopsies

[flint rain]

It’s not bad

[languid ravine]

...

[flint rain]

It’s actually one of the better || endings||

[orchid flower]

If u want

[flint rain]

for hallownest as a whole least

[upper storm]

wow, are you hollow?

[languid ravine]

no?..

[high heron]

oh okay

[flint rain]

we are so cooked

[high heron]

i can do more right?

[flint rain]

Yes

[high heron]

at least that was like

over half??

[upper storm]

||who is to contain radiance now||

[languid ravine]

im at 110 percent

i already did that

[orchid flower]

Max is 112%

[languid ravine]

im just stuck at the end

[high heron]

yeah i know that

[upper storm]

up to ||112%||

[languid ravine]

those hard challenges

[lone bough]

||any tips for pure vessel?||

[upper storm]

nothing

[high heron]

so i guess i can look up tutorials to like get everything else

[orchid flower]

Hold on I’ll type you up something

[vague fern]

Anything specific?

[orchid flower]

They’re pretty simple

[flint rain]

Percents are based off items, collectibles, upgrades and bosses so try and find more of those

[high heron]

i wanna fight ||radiance|| and do the ||grimm|| stuff

[orchid flower]

You just need to practice

[upper storm]

it is easy like ||grimm, just learn pattern||

[lone bough]

||i can get to his second stagger with no problem||

[flint rain]

you’d better be prepared for a journey

[upper storm]

you know where ||grimm is||

[high heron]

i know one of the members is in ||queen’s station|| and i’m assuming that’s how you start it

[upper storm]

||he is in howling cliffs behind a breakable wall||

[lone bough]

no?

[upper storm]

no

[slender dagger]

I just picked up the game, having a grand old time, but I died in the ||City of Tears|| with 1800 geo and I cannot for the life of me find my ||shade||. I ducked into a side room and got blown up by one of those bat things, but I swear I've looked all over and I can't find that room. Any tips?

[upper storm]

search it up

[flint rain]

@high heron do you want brief explanation of how to get a item you need to fight || radiance||

[orchid flower]

||Winding up: they’re gonna triple slash, jump and pogo over||

||Charging sound: they’re gonna charge forward. Jump and pogo over||

||Sword spray: jump and shade dash forward||

||Jump/teleport to the sky, they’re gonna slam down and do spikes. Dash away and jump between the lines||

||Focusing: don’t be in the rings of death||

||Creepy sounds: void tendrils are coming. Jump towards them and bounce until they end||

[orchid flower]

As you can see preemptively jumping makes the fight much simpler

[high heron]

tbh i could probably look up where to find all the necessary missing items

idk tho

[orchid flower]

Since almost every dodge involves jumping

[flint rain]

best if you don’t

[orchid flower]

They attack on a predictable rhythm

[vague fern]

Pogoing thrust

[flint rain]

makes the experience better for you

[orchid flower]

I’m a daredevil

[lone bough]

like i struggle with the soul pillars

[orchid flower]

It just takes practice

[flint rain]

Also I meant without many spoilers

[quaint hornet]

||take it slow, quickslash is amazing for this fight, focus on dodging, you get some good moments to get hits in, he has a lot of signals for his attacks, watch out for those, i liked to save my soul for healing||

[high heron]

i’m glad i actually stayed a little unspoiled cause i had no idea there were ||multiple endings||

[orchid flower]

They were the hardest attack for me for a while too

[vague fern]

Pogo the invisible pillar hitbox for style points

[flint rain]

if you stay unspoiled it makes finding and doing things so much better

feel more accomplished

[high heron]

i guess that’s true

[upper storm]

||hear me out gpz is fun and it is like grimm||

[quaint ruin]

guys I think I'm genuinly tweaking out... ||I need to finish p5 to start silksong I can't leave hk unfinished and I just can't finish it like my playtime is over 150 hours and I haven't even got to abrad yet||

[lone bough]

|| i hate gpz bro||

[orchid flower]

He is much harder

[high heron]

like i looked up a ||mask shards|| tutorial and realized i needed to ||save bretta|| for one and i managed to randomly figure out how to do that without a guide

[vague fern]

I dont see the similarity but i find him alot more fun

[orchid flower]

I firmly believe the big 3 should include ||Zote|| instead of ||NKG||

It’s a much more dynamic and fun fight

[slender dagger]

Omg, found it. It was in a different room than it showed on the map

[orchid flower]

||NKG|| becomes really easy but ||Zote|| just doesn’t no matter how much you practice it

It’s so fun

[upper storm]

really

[lone bough]

fr

[upper storm]

i think the one that practice doesn't make sense is ||god tamer||

[flint rain]

||but to put you in the right direction @high heron try to find the queen of hallownest in her gardens and the king in a dreams in his palace || that should give you a general idea of what to do and where to look

[high heron]

ohh alright

[flint rain]

though be prepared for hard platforming

Like half of it is just platforming

[upper storm]

the ||white palace ):||

[high heron]

yeah i heard about that ||sawblade|| place

[flint rain]

yeah

[upper storm]

50000000000000000000000000000000 sawblades

[flint rain]

The king rlly had an addiction didn’t he

[upper storm]

||: https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-hollow-knight-pale-king-gif-6733817197264733939||

[upper storm]

sawblades lol

[flint rain]

lmao

[upper storm]

sawblades

!

!!!

[lone bough]

1% away from 112%

||the patheons||

[flint rain]

U got it man

[lean pilot]

The fourth p?

[flint rain]

ye

[lone bough]

ye

[upper storm]

you need to beat it twice since u need both ||endings||

[orchid flower]

You only need to beat that one once

Repeat attempts would only be for the ||bindings and hitless|| challenges

[upper storm]

wow

[desert salmon]

How do I beat ||Grimm’s puffer ball form||, everything else in his moveset is easy

It’s so hard

[livid shoal]

Get good at dodging

[desert salmon]

Other than that

[livid shoal]

Better reaction time

[desert salmon]

Are u srs

[livid shoal]

No I'm joking

[smoky lava]

||Yo I dream nail hollow knight when hornet got him and I didn't teleport to radiance I just defeated him and got a cutscene do I need to do it again?||

[livid shoal]

Throw reaction time and dodging out the window, instead, ||you're going to put on Twister, Shaman, and Stalwart Shell to cheese it||

[orchid flower]

You were probably just too far away

[livid shoal]

Can I see your inventory? :catbrown:

And Charms

[orchid flower]

I’m sorry that the bullet hell requires reaction time to dodge but there’s not much else to it

[smoky lava]

Im complete all charms

[orchid flower]

If ||Hornet|| is there then that’s not a problem

[livid shoal]

I suppose

[smoky lava]

||And got 1800 essence||

[orchid flower]

I’m guessing they tried to do it from too far

So he just missed

[smoky lava]

I need to do it again?

[orchid flower]

No the game will let you fight automatically

(Yes you have to do it again)

[livid shoal]

||THK is a coughing baby you'll be fine||

[smoky lava]

Ik Its just after defeating him Theres a long ahh credits

[livid shoal]

What

pk

||Dreamnail him,,?||

Don't get ||Sealed Siblings|| again :catbrown:

[knotty dome]

||did u go to the abyss after obtaining the kingsoul so that it turns into voidheart||

[orchid flower]

clearly he did

[livid shoal]

||That's requirement for Sealed Siblings, which they got||

[orchid flower]

He most likely just missed

[knotty dome]

ahhhhhhhhhhh

yeah

[smoky lava]

Yes I got it

[glossy notch]

@south flower

[south flower]

Yes

[glossy notch]

To get ||void heart||| you need to get 2 fragments

[south flower]

I currently don't have hk open because my sister stole the TV

[glossy notch]

Well just keep this in mind

[south flower]

Okay?

[glossy notch]

|| one fragment is from white lady and the other is in white palace||

[south flower]

Well i don't know where either of those are

[glossy notch]

|| white lady is near traitor lord in queens garden, white palace is in hidden station (you need awoken dream nail) ||

[south flower]

How do I ||awaken the dream nail||?

[glossy notch]

|| get 1800 essence and talk to seer ||

[south flower]

||1.8k?!||

[glossy notch]

Yes

[south flower]

Well that will be a bit, I don't even have 100

[knotty karma]

you can get it quite easily trust

[glossy notch]

It's honestly easy

[glossy notch]

You can kill || failed champion and lost kin || for 700 I think

[south flower]

Each?

[glossy notch]

Combined

[knotty karma]

all ||warriors|| + half ||dream bosses||

[glossy notch]

Yez

[knotty karma]

should be enough

[south flower]

They are both so aggressive

[jovial sky]

||dw lost kin has a W cheese strat, its will be done on your first try dw||

[glossy notch]

Use || defenders crest || ||lost kin||

[knotty karma]

nah theyre pretty easy

[glossy notch]

For

[knotty karma]

just spam

[knotty karma]

no?

why

[glossy notch]

Baloons

[south flower]

I use that as a default

[smoky lava]

Um what is the cheese strat?

[jovial sky]

||Use quick slash for failed champion.||

[knotty karma]

||strength+quickslash|| and he will be perma stunned

[jovial sky]

||Defender's Crest||

[south flower]

||quickslash?||

[glossy notch]

I mean it's only 1 charm nothc might aswell

[knotty karma]

||grubsong||

[jovial sky]

i mean yeah against ||failed champion it worked wonders for me||

[glossy notch]

😱

[knotty karma]

||best charm in the game||

[glossy notch]

|| this is so tuff bou ||

[knotty karma]

yea i might be glazing but still

[glossy notch]

Its only good if youre bad at dodging

[knotty karma]

i am ig

[vague fern]

Its always good tbh

[glossy notch]

If youre good at dodging throw that away

[south flower]

I heard mention of fighting ||warriors?||

[knotty karma]

yesh

[glossy notch]

Yes

[south flower]

Making a checklist of places to go

[smoky lava]

Is it really ok to cheese strat? Feels like im cheating

[vague fern]

Its your decision

i dont recommend it

[knotty karma]

same logic ||strength is only good if u bad at hitting||

[glossy notch]

You have || dream nail ||

?

[south flower]

Yes

[knotty karma]

i guess yea, you can always do it later in ||godhome||

[knotty dome]

do u have the ||shade cloak||

[south flower]

I already have ||lost kin and failed champion|| on my list of things to do

[glossy notch]

Now you have to be a ||BIG SHOT||

Shsuh

After you kill those big guys

[south flower]

Recently got it actually, helped me beat ||the hollow knight||

[glossy notch]

You can go to || resting grous ||d and go down to the left to get ||xero||

That'll give 800

[south flower]

||resting grounds, bottom left?||

[glossy notch]

If you kill the big boys

[glossy notch]

Yes

[knotty karma]

main room

[glossy notch]

The room to the left where ypu were caged in

You

[south flower]

So that leaves about 250 left

[south flower]

Hold on, trying to rack my brain on that

[glossy notch]

What

[south flower]

For ||1.8k of those dream points||

[glossy notch]

No combined

800 combined

[south flower]

||lost kin, failed champion, and that fight on the bottom right of resting grounds|| is 800?

[glossy notch]

Yes

🥹

[glossy notch]

Left

[south flower]

So that leaves about 950 needed

[glossy notch]

Yes

[south flower]

Right, my bad

[glossy notch]

You can fight || soul tyrant || after you kill || soul masters||

That'll give you somewhere between 400 I think

[south flower]

I forgot i can ||dream fight soul master||

So ||soul tyrant is the soul master dream fight?||

[glossy notch]

Yes

It's a faster version pretty much

[south flower]

Are they not that strong, just faster??

[glossy notch]

Practically, yes

[south flower]

I can live with faster

[smoky lava]

Its just youll fight him longer

[glossy notch]

Yas

[south flower]

So that leaves about 550 left

[glossy notch]

Fight ||marmu|| in ||queens garden|| for 200

[knotty dome]

youre gonna need it as some ||warriors|| hide behind ||shadow gates||

[glossy notch]

||mark Zuckerberg||

[knotty dome]

perhaps

[south flower]

Not a ||queens garden|| fan, I would rather ||be in deepnest|| i dislike it that much

[glossy notch]

|| in deepnest you an get gallien ||

Can*

WHAT

[south flower]

You didn't censor a word

[smoky lava]

||I hated flying mantis||

[south flower]

||gallien?||

[glossy notch]

Yed

[smoky lava]

||yes easy boss just spam shriek||

[glossy notch]

Yes

[south flower]

||I keep seeing "shriek" what is that?||

[glossy notch]

After that in || fungal wastes you can get elder hu||

||| then go to greenspath and into stone sanctuary to get no eyes ||

All of those should be able to get you the || awoken dream nail||

[smoky lava]

You got up spell?

[south flower]

||up spell?||

Didn't know there was one for that

[glossy notch]

|| howling wraiths ||

[smoky lava]

||the one you get from queens garden||

Forgot the name

[south flower]

||EVERYTHING JUST LEADS TO MY LEAST FAVORITE PLACE, OF COURSE||

[glossy notch]

Lol

[smoky lava]

so you got it?

[glossy notch]

All roads lead to || queens garden||

[south flower]

No

[south flower]

HA!

[smoky lava]

Oh you should

[south flower]

That will just make ||collecting my shade|| more difficult :(

[glossy notch]

Lowk I need to go

[south flower]

Have a good night

[glossy notch]

It's 2pm

[upper storm]

no it is to bilewater

[south flower]

Ah, I can't make a joke

THAT was the word?

[south flower]

I ||cast|| sleep spell

I thank you all

I will get on them tomorrow

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[glossy notch]

Hello

[austere kraken]

guys i cant ||git gud radiance i cant go past phase 4|| 🥲 been playing it for >10hrs now i think

[exotic wharf]

||absolutely radiance or normal radiance?||

[austere kraken]

normal!

[uncut iris]

well what do you have so far

upgrades, charms and allat

[austere kraken]

I think I got everything already? I'm at 104%

[uncut iris]

specifically ||nail lvl, masks, soul vessels, current charm build||

[austere kraken]

oohh ||pure nail, 4 soul vessels,
im using mark of pride, shaman, grubsong, dream wielder, quick focus||

im just having trouble with the ||platforming on that part||

[tight schooner]

How do I beat ||hornet 2nd battle||

[uncut iris]

||dream wielder is useless btw||

if you're more confident in your dodging you can use ||quick slash|| over ||focus||

[austere kraken]

it's bec i got ||one more notch|| available and dont know what to put there lol

[tight schooner]

Plz I need help

[shy bear]

most of her mobility options make her get close to you, so dont move THAT much
remember, everything can be predicted.

[tight schooner]

Alr tysm

[torn pier]

im getting hollow knight for my birthday sonn does anyone have any tips

soon*

[tight schooner]

About the fight should I get upgrades to ||spells like vengeful spirit and desolate dive||

[shy bear]

dont worry about getting lost, the entire premise is exploration : )

go to unexplored areas, and never give up

[shy bear]

that would be very helpful especially for ||d dive||

[torn pier]

ok ty

[tight schooner]

And up grade my ||nail from lvl 2 to lvl 3?||

[shy bear]

oh surely

[tight schooner]

Need a quick way to get ||pale ore||

[shy bear]

which ones have you gotten?

[tight schooner]

None

[shy bear]

…oh.

[tight schooner]

I beat ||broken vessel with sharpened nail||

[shy bear]

ok, listen up
||somewhere in the crystal caves is one, check the upper levels
after that, explore the tram area of the ancient basin||

[tight schooner]

Ok tysm

Also do I need ||geo to upgrade too?||

[shy bear]

yea, lots of it

[tight schooner]

How much

[shy bear]

around 3k

[vague fern]

250, 800, 2k, 4k iirc

[tight schooner]

Where in ||ancient basin||

[shy bear]

||tram||. its up

[lucid raven]

When doing ||Pantheon 1 with all bindings|| I can equip ||1 charm||?

[shy bear]

||all bindings includes no charms||

[lucid raven]

Oh the singular slot threw me off lmao

Im dumb

[shy bear]

but you dont need to do all of them at the same time

[lucid raven]

Im doing all of them

[shy bear]

ah.

[lucid raven]

I just beat ||hornet||

[loud falcon]

Is there anywhere ingame to go for hints? Im tired of being lost

[bright hamlet]

Not in th3 game, you can ask here tho

[compact notch]

am i crazy for ||preferring mark of pride over unbreakable strength? ive been using it for so long now that it just feels weird to not use it||

[bright hamlet]

No ur not crazy

[loud falcon]

Where do I go?

[compact notch]

should i just stick ||mark of pride||

[bright hamlet]

||there is some empty space in faaar left of the map||
||u can also just beat the game rn tho||

[bright hamlet]

Yes, it's considered better too

[compact notch]

theres no way

[bright hamlet]

||it comboes well with other charms that's why it's better||

[compact notch]

sure then

[frozen plaza]

I hear a ||grub|| near the ||white lady but can't reach it where is it?||

[lean pilot]

Look for secret ceiling in rooms to the left of station

[frozen plaza]

||just outside the white lady's house, I can't hear it|| not near the ||station||

[scenic hawk]

❌ You do not have permission to run this command.

[frozen plaza]

?

[scenic hawk]

❌ You do not have permission to run this command.

[frozen plaza]

What?

[loud falcon]

||i want the black beam||

[heady spire]

||you want shade dash?||

[loud falcon]

||no the shade magic attack||

[tight schooner]

What do I do with my ||3750 geo||

[loud falcon]

||deepnest?||

[lyric rapids]

Buy that one fountain.

[tight schooner]

Whee

Where

[lyric rapids]

That one

[tight schooner]

What does it do

[lyric rapids]

Extra juice

[tight schooner]

What do you mean by that

Extra ||soul||

Is it in ||ancient basin||

[heady spire]

perhaps

[uncut iris]

mhm

[tight schooner]

Ok

[austere kraken]

i did it i beat the ||radiance|| 😭 that was bittersweet this is the most beautiful game ive ever played

[loud falcon]

Hello?

Well im going to bed, if someone could answer my questions later that would be great

[coarse nest]

What's your q again?

[coarse nest]

Show inventory

[coarse nest]

Okay so went to the ||abyss right||

Did you go to the right side and get an ability there?

I'm not sure what you mean by ||black beam attack|| I can think of two things

First is down there, second is ||in city of tears, find a place to use that elegant key you have||

[loud falcon]

||the up magic attack?||

[coarse nest]

No on the other side at the very bottom, I'm bad with left and right so look at the other side

It's in the same area as the ||up magic but in a different room||

Also go to ||crystal peak ||there's some stuff you missed in there

[lean pilot]

its accessed from station side fyu

fyi

just look around for any suspicious walls/ceilings

[lean pilot]

sorry what ability are you looking for?

[coarse nest]

Okay so you have ||shade cloak||

[coarse nest]

Then the thing you're looking for is ||upgraded vengeful spirit||

Look for a place to use your || elegant key||
Hint:it's somewhere in ||city of tears||

There's also the upgrade to ||desolate dive|| somewhere in ||crystal peaks||

[lean pilot]

1. its held by some cult that likes soul
2. a certain money addicted guy sells it only after finding his key in a mineshaft

3. theres a fun rematch

:))

[coarse nest]

Bro already has everything needed to get it, he's bought that particular item

[lean pilot]

ok just find the cult of soul

[velvet bluff]

is there no other way for me to get a map for this place? i cant go through this

[coarse nest]

Just needs to go find where to use it

[lean pilot]

then theres a elevator

[lean pilot]

later gameupgrade

you can try blind navigation

[coarse nest]

You'll get to the other side later, for now just mark it on your map and ignore

You'll know when you can cross it

[velvet bluff]

alright thanks, thought there would be another way since i can swim in ||acid|| now

[coarse nest]

Yeah there's a way in from somewhere else

[lean pilot]

gotta blind navigate a bomb zone

[velvet bluff]

somehow found ||queens gardens|| map instead

[lean pilot]

i mean corny is on the path next to the bench xd

[lean pilot]

a soul ball upgrade seems fitting to be researched by some soul nerd right

[coarse nest]

Okay go to ||soul sanctum, do you see the doorway marked just above the bench, go there||

Best sit on that bench tbh, you might need jt

[lean pilot]

dont tell him about the secret shortcut

[coarse nest]

Found it?

[full wigeon]

How many charms are in the ||Grimm DLC||??

[lean pilot]

they added 4 to 6 iirc, but only 1 is directly related

[full wigeon]

Thanks

[velvet hound]

Do you have to do every quest to get 112%?

[polar flicker]

Kind of ye

Almost everything

Ghost ping

[winter swift]

Guys i completed ||p2|| where can I check achivement?

[lean pilot]

in home screen

[polar flicker]

Main menu

[velvet bluff]

this guy lvoes grunting doesnt he

cant even save him cuz i have n o map for this place

[old condor]

do you want to know the route for saving him or?

[velvet bluff]

i should get the map first

tehre is a map for this place right?

[old condor]

yea

im not sure if you are any close to it tho i cant remmember

[full wigeon]

I don't save him

[lean pilot]

just on the left

ye he whines too much

[full wigeon]

How can I save ||Bretta||??

[lean pilot]

next to the sans statue, theres a hole in the wall

[full wigeon]

Thanks

[velvet bluff]

found the map i think this is the first time that the dude wasnt singing

and no map clues lying around

[vestal gazelle]

Any tips on ||failed champian||

...

[heady spire]

when he jumps towards you go under him

[vestal gazelle]

I ||dash towards him||

[heady spire]

yea

[topaz perch]

How can I do ||the basically frame perfect dash|| to get ||quick slash charm|| while that ||giant hopper|| is chasing me?😭

[heady spire]

when he jumps away he most likely gonna ranged

[vestal gazelle]

Ik

[heady spire]

kill him first

[vestal gazelle]

But iys the rocks

[austere kraken]

recommended charm build for ||NKG||? 🙂

[jade sedge]

Send a screenshot of what you have

[heady spire]

i just try to ignore them as much as i can

[vestal gazelle]

I can barely get any ||soul from him||

[topaz perch]

How??? Even 3 ||shade souls|| won't kill it

[jade sedge]

||You can get a few dream nails in on staggers||

[heady spire]

||When you stagger him you can dreamnail and and pogo of his armour to get soul||

[heady spire]

u can do the same to heal

[vestal gazelle]

Ok

[heady spire]

like alternate it

[vestal gazelle]

Any more ||attacks||

[heady spire]

for the one where he slams the ground in the middle you can ||either just focus on dodging or hit them at him||

[vestal gazelle]

Ok

[heady spire]

good luck my g

[vestal gazelle]

And what is the reward

[heady spire]

i think about 300 ||dream essence||

||dream essence*||

[austere kraken]

havent started yet but i might use ||grubsong, unbreakable strength, mark of pride, glowing womb||

[coarse nest]

Why ||glowing womb||

The others are great but that last one is rather dogshit

[austere kraken]

idk there’s ||another 2 notches ||available and idk what to put there 😆

[coarse nest]

||soul catcher||

Can't go wrong with some extra ||soul||

[vestal gazelle]

Recommended ||charms?||

[austere kraken]

makes sense

[heady spire]

how many ||notches||

[coarse nest]

Send a photo of your ||charms screen||

[vestal gazelle]

Ok

[raven ledge]

||shouldi use mark of pride over long nail?||

[coarse nest]

Yes it's much better

[heady spire]

||guys i need some advice on p4, Im able to do every other boss but I end up at Pure Vessel with like 4 masks and cant dodge enough and lose the run everytime||

shud i use ||flukenest||

[coarse nest]

Practice the ||bosses where you're losing a lot of health in godhome||

I haven't done ||p4 myself but this is good overall pantheon advice I got from ppl here||

[native tinsel]

||Practice every boss you lose a lot of hp on in hog. If you can beat a boss 5 times in a row your good to go. With pv, it takes a lot of tries to get it right. He will become very predictable eventually.||

[heady spire]

yeah i did that for ||sly||

[velvet bluff]

what are these for?

[heady spire]

kk thx

[native tinsel]

Selling for free geo

[coarse nest]

There's a guy in ||city who's interested in those||

You're gonna be super rich lol that's so much

[velvet bluff]

i think i met that guy once but didnt seel anything. thought id need these stuff in the future lol

[coarse nest]

Don't sell em off until you need geo, you don't lose these upon death so it's like having stored money

[velvet bluff]

i have 3k geo rn without selling those, what can i even do with geo rn

apart from upgrading my sword

[coarse nest]

Late game there's something that needs a fuckton of geo

[heady spire]

did you throw ur geo into the fountain

[velvet bluff]

no not yet

[native tinsel]

You don’t have to rn, there are better things to spend your geo on

[obsidian coyote]

if i down patch to 1.5.7.8 ( for ||pop|| speedrunning ) will it fuck up my main save if i play or dont play on it while down patched

[heady spire]

you can ||do stuff with grimm troupe that needs a lot of money|| after you buy everything

[coarse nest]

If you wanna find that, I'll give a hint

Explore ||howling cliffs and look for something red behind a breakable/hidden wall||

[coarse nest]

Best to make a backup of your save before downpatching, idk if it'll fuck shit up but it's so easy to backup so just do it

[obsidian coyote]

fair

[frozen plaza]

||what the fuck is failed champion on 😭, any tips😭||

[coarse nest]

What's your ||charms/inventory||

[native tinsel]

||Don’t jump if you don’t have to since it will fuck up your timing, only heal when he is stunned, when he jumps, dash under him and hit him as much as you can||

[frozen plaza]

||I got pretty much all of them but i gave the strength charm to divine||

[frozen plaza]

When should I hit?

[native tinsel]

When you ||dashed|| under him

[frozen plaza]

Ok

[native tinsel]

||You can also hit him 2 times when jumps to the centre of the arena before he does the crashout attack||

[raven ledge]

do ||dream bosses ( failed champion. lost kin, soul tyrant)|| count towards completion?

[native tinsel]

Yes

[lethal siren]

how many ||abyss shrieks|| for ||abs rad phase 1 and 2||?

[dreamy bolt]

Bro i have been at

Where is ||three eye dreamer in distant village||

[heady spire]

||go into the room with the fake bench and just go up and left as much as you can||

[dreamy bolt]

So the ||roof with the normal bench||

[heady spire]

||yeah||

[native tinsel]

||9-10 with shaman stone for both phases||

[dreamy bolt]

Thank you

[heady spire]

gotchu

[lethal siren]

Alr

[vestal gazelle]

Why is getting picture from nintendo hard?

I got my ||charms|| tell me a build for ||failed champian||

[heady spire]

sorry, what?

[native tinsel]

I would…change that

[heady spire]

with your thing i would prob use ||dash master mark of pride shaman stone||

[vestal gazelle]

Ok

[heady spire]

thats me personally

you might play different

[vestal gazelle]

I test it

[velvet bluff]

what is this place for at ||howling cliffs||

nvm found this guy

[lucid lily]

||Dreamnail the guy you just found, then hit that structure a few times||

[fallen trellis]

its done!

[lucid lily]

Proud of you!

[velvet bluff]

did and ||a torch lit up, is something supposed to happen now or is it for later||

[lucid lily]

||Return to Dirtmouth||

[vestal gazelle]

Im getting better at ||failed champion||

[silver swift]

||Someone can tell me charm combos for the failed champion at radiant difficulty?||

Sorry for my English

[native tinsel]

Do you have every ||charm and notch||?

[silver swift]

Yeah

[native tinsel]

I would do ||mop, shaman, q slash and soul eater||

[fallen trellis]

Before I start the || path of pain|| I want a yes or no answer please, || Is the reward to completing the path of pain either a charm to equip or is it a lore storytelling place like the others i found in the white palace? I don't want to do it just for it to be a bunch of geo||

[silver swift]

Thank you

[native tinsel]

That’s no yes or no question

But if you wanna know

||it’s the lore thing||

[fallen trellis]

Is the ||reward geo?||

[heady spire]

you get to see ||very wholesome cutscene so its worth it||

[native tinsel]

Nope

[lucid lily]

||It is a memory of the Pale King||

[fallen trellis]

ok thats all I needed to know, tysm

[heady spire]

you should do it either way

to prove yourself

[lucid lily]

It's only optional

[fallen trellis]

I don't want Geo thats why I want to do it

[heady spire]

ohkk

[native tinsel]

I haven’t done ||pop yet|| 😔

[lucid lily]

Me neither

[vestal gazelle]

What does ||salubra bless do?||

[lucid lily]

I am not that good at platforming

[heady spire]

regen soul at benches

[fallen trellis]

|| white palace|| really helped me understand whats going on

[native tinsel]

But like, I have almost done everything in the game except for ||pop|| haha

[vestal gazelle]

Oh thats op

[lucid lily]

||Very important place canonically||

[fallen trellis]

i hope || path of pain furthers that || 🙏

[lucid lily]

You are gonna hate your life 😭

[fallen trellis]

I enjoyed the platforming in the ||white palace|| , surely it wont be THAT bad

[native tinsel]

Anyone got some advice before I kill myself with ||p3ab||

[lucid lily]

||I hope you are good at platforming, that is the true parkour challenge of the game||

[lucid lily]

None

[native tinsel]

Nvm changed my mind ||I’ll do pop||

[lean pilot]

Worship

[tawny wagon]

Are there any known issues with running hollow knight on linux mint?

[vestal gazelle]

I got one more ||notch||

What should i put in

For ||failed champian||

[velvet bluff]

where even is this guy

[vestal gazelle]

||dive down in mantis village center and go down||

A helper is not here so... there you go.

[vestal gazelle]

Do you want image?

I think i should i use ||dream wielder for beating failed champion||

Anyone here?

[lean pilot]

Hi

[vestal gazelle]

Hi, should i use ||dream wielder charm|| for ||failed champian||

[sterile pawn]

Tbh yes it's kinda good.

[vestal gazelle]

Ok

How many staggers does ||failed champ|| have?

[smoky fractal]

3

[dense torrent]

you need to find a lever in the ||mantis village||

[smoky fractal]

well once the third happens the fight is over but still

[dense torrent]

once you use it the floor will open up and you will be able to go to the fight

[vestal gazelle]

I hate the falling debris in ||failed champians arena||

[lean pilot]

Ye that makes hit less runs very very difficult

[vestal gazelle]

I got hit while ||dashing|| away

[cold panther]

||traitor lord ||whoopin my ass

[vestal gazelle]

Is there an easier ||dream boss||

[dense torrent]

no

hes the easiest

theres another one that could potentially be easier but i think ||fc|| is the easiest

[native tinsel]

||Lost kin, imo||

[acoustic sigil]

Imo every single one is easier than ||failed champion||

[vestal gazelle]

Im so familiar with ||soul master||

[acoustic sigil]

You'll get very mixed responses on this, so just go do any other one and find out for yourself

[lean pilot]

The dude might be easier

[acoustic sigil]

Spoiler tags

[dense torrent]

ah yes

the dude

[lapis topaz]

do i gotta make a new save to get a different ending or i can get all at once

[lean pilot]

Only 1 ending you might get softlocked from

[acoustic sigil]

@lean pilot Just spoiler tag your messages. Don't try to avoid the bot

[cold panther]

||CLOTH NO||

[lapis topaz]

which one

[lean pilot]

||first ending, any% ending||

[dense torrent]

i think ||failed champion > soul tyrant > lost kin > white defender > nightmare king|| from easiest to hardest ||dream bosses||

[lapis topaz]

so like if i kill the knight now i can say goodbye to my save

[dense torrent]

what

you dont lose your save

beating the game does nothing to your save

other than show your %

[lapis topaz]

wait i forgot

so like

[lean pilot]

||Imo soul dude is easier, 1 dmg is always easier to learn||

[dense torrent]

but once you get a certain item

[lapis topaz]

if i get 1st ending can i get another one

or nope

[dense torrent]

you can get every ||ending||

but once you get a certain item you cant get the first one anymore

[lapis topaz]

okay great

[lapis topaz]

im doing the 1st one anyway so yea

[dense torrent]

you still fight the boss from the 1st one

u just dont get the cutscene

[lapis topaz]

yea i think i get it

[dense torrent]

in the other ||endings||

[lean pilot]

Fun fact the game never ends

[glossy notch]

Erm guys asking a question what's the closest bench to || sentinel? ||

[lean pilot]

If you didnt find the hidden one, there is one before the start of ||cast off shell||

[glossy notch]

no i haven't beat it yet

[dense torrent]

one to the left of the fight

[glossy notch]

Where's the hidden one

[dense torrent]

theres a breakable ceiling

[lean pilot]

Look at the background signboarda

[dense torrent]

by the ||aspids||

from there you go up

[glossy notch]

|| what vro ||

[dense torrent]

then break the ceiling

[dense torrent]

if u dont understand i can show u if u screenshare

[glossy notch]

Yes please

[dense torrent]

alr ill start a call in dms

[glossy notch]

No calls

Just text

I'm in public

[lean pilot]

Take a ss, i can help circle

[dense torrent]

ok

have u seen the bench sign

by the fight

before u drop down if u go to the left then u can find it

[glossy notch]

Ok

I'll see if it can spot it

[dense torrent]

you should be able to since its unavoidable

when going to the fight

[glossy notch]

Ah

[vestal gazelle]

I got to the || final phase of soul tyrant first try||

[dreamy bolt]

Tips on defeating||hive knight||

[glossy notch]

Found it

[dreamy bolt]

Found what 😳

[glossy notch]

Dih

[dreamy bolt]

Whose 😳

[glossy notch]

Mine

[dreamy bolt]

Where 😳

[glossy notch]

guys pls help me defeat || false knight || he to strong 😭😭😭

[dreamy bolt]

Guys I need tips on ||hive knight|| the run back on him is crazy long

[dreamy bolt]

Just give up

[glossy notch]

[vestal gazelle]

||So just attack him when he still and you can skip him|| go watch a turtoral

[dreamy bolt]

Tips me too 🥺

[glossy notch]

|| false knight|| tips pls

[dense torrent]

no point in skipping him and not getting the ||city crest||

also watching a tutorial is the unnecessary spoilers final boss

[dreamy bolt]

Wait you serious?

[lean pilot]

Hitless runs are very useful imo

[glossy notch]

|| no ||

[dreamy bolt]

|| so freaky omg||

[lean pilot]

I would play more bosses without spoiler if runback isnt that bad

[glossy notch]

|| ts so tuff boi ||

[dreamy bolt]

Runback is getting to me though so far away

[acoustic sigil]

No trolling.

[dreamy bolt]

The man has spoken

[shut sparrow]

no thommie

[dreamy bolt]

No trolling from now on

[dreamy bolt]

Thommnie noo 😭

[glossy notch]

serious mode

[lean pilot]

||We must discuss that gpz is more rng than sly
Why cant gpz commit||

[shut sparrow]

this is not a discussion channel

[vestal gazelle]

Is there a better build?

[lean pilot]

Oh wait
Cya

[glossy notch]

Check your dms blud

[lean pilot]

Btw we need a highlights channel jast saying

[glossy notch]

[vestal gazelle]

Here it is

[dense torrent]

first 2 charms are kind of a waste of ||notches||

[vestal gazelle]

I think this is the old one

[lean pilot]

Good exploring build, can be better for combat

[raven ledge]

||any tips for Pantheon 3?||

[lean pilot]

Just look around and see what you like

[lean pilot]

||Practise gailen and gpz||

[fallen trellis]

is there no || dream variant of this guy? do I need the nail arts equipped for it?? ||

[wheat star]

Guys I wanna get ||voidheart|| but I need ||kingsoul|| first. Should I get ||essence|| for ||white palace|| or fight ||traitor lord|| first

[dense torrent]

no

[dense torrent]

doesnt really matter

[wheat star]

I have like 600 ||essence|| btw

[dense torrent]

||wp|| is platforming ||traitor lord|| is combat

but to get to the ||wp|| u need to do a bunch of fights

[wheat star]

I think imma do ||WP|| first

[shut sparrow]

there isn't

[wheat star]

Ez ||dream warriors||?

[dreamy bolt]

Tips bro

[shut sparrow]

||practice any boss you struggle with in the hall of gods. For charms I recommend strength, qslash, shaman, steady body, grubsong/nailmaster's glory but soul catcher, spell twister or shape of unn are all great options as well||

[shut sparrow]

what are you struggling with?

[dreamy bolt]

|| hive knight||

The runback is cooking me too

[shut sparrow]

what about ||hive knight||

[wheat star]

Guys what are all the ||dream warriors|| from easiest to hardest

[fallen trellis]

ty

[dreamy bolt]

Hmmm

[dense torrent]

all are similar in difficulty

[dreamy bolt]

Well he ain't that hard..

Lemme try again

[dense torrent]

except ||markoth||

[shut sparrow]

||that's generally how you improve. Pay attention to the mistakes you are making||

[dense torrent]

and maybe ||marmu|| since people dont know how to fight her

[wheat star]

I've done ||gorbs, Xero and marmu||

[lean pilot]

||The elder is not similar in difficulty 😭 🙏||

[wheat star]

Where is ||no eyes||?

[dense torrent]

in ||greenpath||

to be specific in the ||stone sanctuary||

[short zinc]

||why doesent hornet attack hollow knight||

[dense torrent]

she stated why before the fight

[compact notch]

||to enchance the playing experience||

[lean pilot]

Regilia forlia?

Idk what she says

[short zinc]

i wanna fight ||the radience||

but i cant ||dreamnail the hollow knight||

[raven ledge]

you need to get the ||voidheart first||

[short zinc]

where do i corupt ||kings soul||

[dense torrent]

unnecessary spoiler

[dense torrent]

in the ||abyss||

u need to have it equipped

[short zinc]

so just have it equiped and it will turn into ||void soul||

[dense torrent]

no

it unlocks an area

in the ||abyss||

[wheat star]

@dense torrent ty I just killed ||no eyes||

[short zinc]

oh ok

[dense torrent]

np

[short zinc]

thx

[dense torrent]

walk around there once you have it equipped

[stray plover]

ok guys so smol problem
||I tried to fight the Hive Knight....but I died
and I tried to get my shadow back but it was STUCK
like, its stuck on the opposite side of the "arena" to put it that way
It cant move
I cant hit it
and if I try to get too close the doors close and the fight starts

it is....a pain-
bc this means I either kill it in one go or go all thw way back to Jiji to get my soul back
...is there a way to prevent this?||

[wheat star]

I wanna do ||elder hu|| next

[dense torrent]

wdym

like your ||shade|| is in the arena

and you dont wanna start the fight again?

[dense torrent]

smort

hes pretty easy

[stray plover]

yeah
and its stuck

[stray plover]

I do but If I do I cant get my shadow back till I beat it....and thats a big maybe

cuz I cant hit it and neither can it move

[wheat star]

Where ||elder hu||

[dense torrent]

maybe restart ur game

[dense torrent]

in the ||fungal wastes||

[stray plover]

okii

[shut sparrow]

||just kill it and quit to the menu||

[dense torrent]

@wheat star heres exactly where he is if u wanna know

[wheat star]

Aight imma go off him

[vestal gazelle]

I got it

[stray plover]

I quit the game bc I started the fight accidentally
cuz I didnt wanna lose 1000 geo

[vestal gazelle]

What do you think of my build?

[dense torrent]

whats it for

[vestal gazelle]

||soul tyrant||

[raven ledge]

whos the boss at the ||far end of first floor hall of gods?||

[dense torrent]

||shaman|| and ||mop|| are good but id reconsider what you use for the rest of your ||notches||

[vestal gazelle]

||Fragile strength?||

[dense torrent]

if u dont think youll die go for it

id focus on ||spells||

[vestal gazelle]

||grubsong and lifeblood?||

[dense torrent]

||gpz||

[fallow loom]

whats the point of this

[acoustic sigil]

Lore

[vestal gazelle]

||should i use grubsong and lifeblood for soul tyrant||

[fallow loom]

im so disappointed

[short zinc]

IM AT THE END OF THE area at the ||abyss|| there is this ||black egg that like a miror||

[dense torrent]

id use ||spell twister|| iinstead of ||lifeblood||

[fallow loom]

dont you get ||pale ore||

[dense torrent]

||dream nail|| it

[hollow sluice]

FINALLY done in pratice

[dense torrent]

no

[hollow sluice]

hi akari

[dense torrent]

hello

[dim smelt]

Hi guys

[hollow sluice]

uhm im praticing ||pure vessel rn||

[fallow loom]

but there was a ||big black egg|| where u got that

[dim smelt]

Who can help me

[hollow sluice]

cuz he hella hard

[hollow sluice]

with?

[dense torrent]

he said its a mirror

[fallow loom]

you should counter

[fallow loom]

ok

[dense torrent]

so thats the start of the ||void heart|| cutscene

[vestal gazelle]

||Might aswell get pure nail||

[dense torrent]

once he ||dream nail||s it

[fallow loom]

oh hright

[hollow sluice]

im using this lol i found out that when i use this ||pure vessel becomes much easier||

[dense torrent]

nice pfp btw

[dim smelt]

I dont know how to unlock one place

[hollow sluice]

wdym

what place

[dense torrent]

pretty good but i recommend ||shaman||

[dim smelt]

Come pm ill explain to you

[hollow sluice]

i dont use ||spells AT ALL in the pure vessel fight||

[dense torrent]

oh alr

theyre pretty useful tbh

[hollow sluice]

also ||i know markoth is before but i can still do it||

[hollow sluice]

idk bro i cant use them lol

[hollow sluice]

just explain here 🙏🏻

[fallow loom]

why???

[hollow sluice]

lowk good question

IDK

[dim smelt]

Okay wait a second i will go there

[vestal gazelle]

Is there a good way to defeat ||soul tyrant at the last phase||

[fallow loom]

r u tryna lose

[hollow sluice]

no

like they are bad in my opinion

[worldly mantle]

Guys can you please help me? I played of the game on steam but now i bought it for xbox and switch too is there any way to transfer my save files between platforms?

[hollow sluice]

nail better

[hollow sluice]

nope

[fallow loom]

i use ||shade soul|| when they ||stab the ground and bring blades out of the ground||

[hollow sluice]

the slam?

[fallow loom]

yes

[hollow sluice]

ah

fair ig

when he does that

i just come close and try attack him thourgh

and when he is done

i can about get 2 hits

like ||pure vessel is a rushable boss lol||

[fallow loom]

u use ||steady body||?

[hollow sluice]

no

[fallow loom]

then u might accidentally hit the ||blades|| while slapping him

just get to a safe spot and hit A

[hollow sluice]

yeah im getting to safe spot and then waitting for hit to finish

but if i get close enough

with ||mark of pride i can hit him through the spikes||

[fallow loom]

get ||shaman stone instead of mark of pride||

and use ||shade soul|| instead of nail

[hollow sluice]

nah

||spells dont work for me||

like u wont change my mind 😭

[vestal gazelle]

I beat ||soul tyrant||

Which ||dream boss do you recommend yet||

[lapis topaz]

I BEAT ITT

[dense torrent]

go for ||lost kin||

or ||failed champion||

[lapis topaz]

YESSSS

[dense torrent]

niceee

[lapis topaz]

okay 1st ending ever

yipee

[vestal gazelle]

Ill go for ||lost kin||

[lapis topaz]

okay how do i like get ||void heart||

[vestal gazelle]

Its to do with ||dream nail||

[lapis topaz]

i have to max it out right?

[dense torrent]

u need the ||kingsoul||

[dense torrent]

no

u only need the ||dream nail||

[valid marsh]

what should i get in ||salubra shop||

[lapis topaz]

i have it, what now

[vale osprey]

|| what do i do with essence? ||

[dense torrent]

equip it and go to the ||abyss||

[lapis topaz]

i wanna try going for ||sealed siblings||

[dense torrent]

nothing

u can talk to the npc in ||resting grounds||

u get rewarded for having ||essence||

its not a currency

[vale osprey]

where abouts?

[dense torrent]

by the ||stag||

[vale osprey]

ty

[lapis topaz]

||dashmaster really does look like sans lmao||

[vestal gazelle]

I have ||dream gate||

Where should i place it?

[dense torrent]

whenever u find it useful use it

[vale osprey]

i cant find it, are you able to send a pic of where it is on the map?

[dense torrent]

go a little bit up in the ||stag station||

[vale osprey]

nvm sorry

[dense torrent]

then left

[vale osprey]

i found it thanks!

[lapis topaz]

can i possibly get ||kingsoul|| right now

like both halfs

[vestal gazelle]

Ill put it in ||blue lake||

[dense torrent]

i thought u said u already have it

[lapis topaz]

nope

not yet

[dense torrent]

i can tell u the requirements if u want

[lapis topaz]

i should go to ||queens gardens|| right?

[dense torrent]

yes

[lapis topaz]

where do i get the ||accessory that lets me swim in acid||

[dense torrent]

in the ||royal waterways||

[vestal gazelle]

Post ||dung defender||

[dense torrent]

eastern side

[dreamy bolt]

Done

[lapis topaz]

got it :D

[vestal gazelle]

I cant heal in ||lost kin fight||

[dense torrent]

ur kinda not meant to

only 1 per stagger

[vestal gazelle]

The minions suck

[mortal zodiac]

I think you can equip ||defender crest|| and minions will die

[vestal gazelle]

Thanks

[lapis topaz]

how do i get over there

[orchid flower]

You eventually come back around

[vestal gazelle]

I beat ||lost kin||

[zenith lance]

||i need to beat all bosses in radiance to complete 112% achievement or just pantheon?||

[vague fern]

Just || pantheons 1-4 || are a %

|| hall of gods || is irrelevant for it

[zenith lance]

ty

[vestal gazelle]

Should i do ||white defender||

[smoky fractal]

lune

you missed the other ||godhome % which is godtuner||

[wheat star]

What ||dream warrior|| should I fight after ||elder hu|| (I've already done ||gorb, Xero, no eyes and marmu|| btw)

[dense torrent]

yes

[exotic wharf]

labubu

[vague fern]

How do you even get that lowk

[dense torrent]

probably ||markoth||

[vague fern]

But tbf it wasnt part of the question

[dense torrent]

or ||galien||

[smoky fractal]

you get it when you unlock ||godseeker|| (which is also a hard save funnily enough)

also did you see the thing I pinged you with

[wheat star]

Imma do ||galien|| where is he

[dense torrent]

||deepnest||

[vague fern]

No i had a few pings from the last hours so i cleared them all

Whats up

[vestal gazelle]

Build for ||failed champ?||

[exotic wharf]

absolutely not these

[dense torrent]

||spells|| are useless since you hardly get soul

unless u use the cheese strat

id focus on nail dps

[exotic wharf]

use ||mop breakable strength steady body and get the q slash charm||

[exotic wharf]

actually you can cheese him

[dense torrent]

read the message below that one

[dense torrent]

^

[exotic wharf]

yea mb

[vestal gazelle]

I change to have ||mop dashmaster lifeblood dreamwielder grubsong||

[exotic wharf]

not good

[vestal gazelle]

?

[dense torrent]

all of those are useless

except for ||mop||