hk-help

[scenic zealot]

Bruv I'm tired of this, does anyone know tips for ||brothers oro and mato||

[sage smelt]

||charms?||

[pine spire]

||Use spells and shade dash a lot and maybe quick focus so u have a lotta time to heal||

[sage smelt]

also are you doing it in ||p1, radiant hog, p1ab or?||

[scenic zealot]

||p1|| and I have every charm

[sage smelt]

whats your current ||loadout||

[scenic zealot]

||voidheart, unbreakable strength, shaman stone, unbreakable heart, quick focus||

[sage smelt]

i would recommend sqapping out ||quick focus for quickslash||

also do you need ||unbreakable heart|| for the second half of ||p1?||

[pine spire]

||yeah high dpsis good||

||dps||

[sage smelt]

yea

you should always have ||strength and quickslash|| on

for ||pantheons||

[scenic zealot]

The main reason is because of the ||brooding mawlek||

[sage smelt]

ahk

for ||brooding mawlek|| most of the time you can just run into the left or right corner of the room to heal

like most of the time you wont get hit

[pine spire]

||or if you time it right shade cloak||

[sage smelt]

because if you can avoid ||unbreakable heart sharp shadow|| will make ||oro and mato|| a lot easier

[pine spire]

||or just jump over him||

[sage smelt]

makes the timings a lot more lenient

[scenic zealot]

So then what should I swap out ||unbreakable heart || for

[sage smelt]

||sharp shadow||

||also do you use spells a lot in second half of p1||

[scenic zealot]

||yes that is why I have shaman stone||

[sage smelt]

ok

[thorn anvil]

||use bindings on pantheons, each filled hole is one binding||

[sage smelt]

when ||oro|| is fighting by himself

just whack him

he has 3 attacks

||dash slash||, where all you have to do is wait and jump over him (would recommend charging a ||nail art|| while waiting to ||great slash him|| as soon as hes done with ||dash slash||)

[scenic zealot]

I can get just ||oro|| down I'm not good at both of them

[sage smelt]

the one where he jumps over you and lands on you, and for that one he tries smite you with his nail but he cant switch sides so you can just ||dash|| under him

and the last one is the triple slash where you just whack him ||sharp shadow|| through him then keep whacking

when ||mato|| comes

stand between them

and ||dream nail|| both to get a lot of soul

and make sure youre healed to full

as soon as you can make an input immediately ||abyss shriek|| then ||shade cloak|| out of there

then you just go to one side of the arena and bait the attack wherer they jump in the air

because thats the easiest to punish

try keep both of them on the same side of you, if youre ever caught between them get out as fast as possible

and use ||ddark|| for iframes if youre ever caught in a sticky situation

and ofc practice them in ||hog||

i think thats about it

if you have full ||soul|| just ||shade soul|| both of them so its not going to waste

yeah i think thats it

[scenic zealot]

Thank you for the tips I'll try them out now

[sage smelt]

gl

[lament flicker]

I wish there was an option to pay bosses to go jump off a bridge so I don't have to deal with them

[sage smelt]

lmao

[scenic zealot]

Real

[pine spire]

fr

[scenic zealot]

@sage smelt @pine spire thank you both for the tips because I just won

[brave karma]

guys does ||void heart|| count towards percentage?

[lament flicker]

I suck at combat any tips for ||nkg|| also what charms should I use

[lament flicker]

Ye

[brave karma]

dammit

[sage smelt]

GG

[sage smelt]

press the attack button

[sage smelt]

||mainly sharp shadow||

[sage smelt]

kidding btw

[brave karma]

WHAT?

[lament flicker]

I KNOW THAT

[brave karma]

||wdym sharp shadow for nkg||

[lament flicker]

I have played the game before

[sage smelt]

it means sit on a ||bench|| and equip the ||sharp shadow|| charm lol

[lament flicker]

You'll learn soon enough

[sage smelt]

its genuinely pretty good

[vague fern]

[sage smelt]

you can do the fight a lot faster

makes it a lot easier too

[vague fern]

@smoky fractal dont say a word

[sage smelt]

lmaooo

[brave karma]

how soon 🎋

[sage smelt]

whats wrong with ||sharp shaddow||

[lament flicker]

What else should I use cuz that's already on every build I've made for him

[brave karma]

everything

[sage smelt]

||strenght||

you dont really need anythign else

i guess ||nmg and heart||?

[smoky fractal]

...

[sage smelt]

are you doing this base game or ||godhome||

[lament flicker]

Oh wow u should know by now unless u just never got ss

[lament flicker]

Base

[sage smelt]

ohk so you need ||grimmchild||

idk go something like

[vague fern]

NO || nkg ss || strats

[sage smelt]

||grimmchild strength nmg sharp shadow heart||

[sage smelt]

whats ||nkg ss||

[smoky fractal]

okayy I won't, they aren't good advice for new people anyway

[sage smelt]

||steel soul?||

||silk song?||

[vague fern]

|| nightmare king grimm sharp shadow ||

[sage smelt]

oh

[lament flicker]

K from there it's just practise till I get it?

[brave karma]

who tf uses ||sharp shadow|| like seriously 🙏

[vague fern]

Why you saying it like theyre good advice for non new players

[sage smelt]

just ||ss|| through everything

like if he does something

||sharp shadow||

[smoky fractal]

non new players can at least appreciate how convoluted it is to be usable

[sage smelt]

if he breathes

[lament flicker]

K I'll try

[sage smelt]

||sharp shadow||

[vague fern]

LMAO i'll give you that

[sage smelt]

if he exists

||sharp shadow||

lol

[sage smelt]

||sharp shadow||?

that charm is underrated imo its actually goated

[vague fern]

hmmmmmm

[lament flicker]

||Sharp shadow|| is to ||nkg|| what ||ddark|| is to almost every fight in the game?

[vague fern]

Oh hell no

[sage smelt]

no use ||ddark||

[smoky fractal]

also lune I did ||r5 again||

[brave karma]

can we stop glazing ss?

[sage smelt]

just spam it in ||balloon|| phase if youre not confident

[sage smelt]

isn't that like

[vague fern]

Ggs

[lament flicker]

OK lot of darkness

[sage smelt]

||old nail something something ab||

[vague fern]

go for double digits lol

[sage smelt]

||old nail white spells||

[vague fern]

Nah thats || r04, r5 is hitless p5||

[orchid flower]

||R5|| is just hitless innit

[sage smelt]

oh

[smoky fractal]

I was so annoyed at it so did one more attempt before I went to sleep

[sage smelt]

greyfire touch grass

[vague fern]

Are you going for true completion?

[smoky fractal]

eh maybe

[vague fern]

geo rocks just suck lol

[smoky fractal]

there is probably a geo rock guide somewhere out there

[vague fern]

yeah but lots of just running around

[sage smelt]

what are you guys talking about

[brave karma]

geo rocks

[sage smelt]

no shit

WHAT

[smoky fractal]

there is a true completion tracker that tracks everything

[sage smelt]

LMAOOOOOO

[vague fern]

lmao

[sage smelt]

i aint never doing that

[smoky fractal]

to truee

[vague fern]

my account was made in october

[smoky fractal]

it is basically just ||r5 ||with a few fetch quests

[sage smelt]

lol

[smoky fractal]

well and ||p5ab||

[vague fern]

if u can do || r5|| then thats nothing though

[orchid flower]

I mean

||The Collector|| is way harder on ||AB|| than normal

[vague fern]

yeah they are slightly different in a sense, but nobody whos done both has their difficulty even close

[orchid flower]

And the fights are just way longer in general

Fair lol

[sage smelt]

every boss is

[vague fern]

ive only done || f5|| though so i'll make my statement in a few days

[sage smelt]

whats ||f5||

[smoky fractal]

well... for a while I did have them close

[vague fern]

|| r5 with fury enabled||

[sage smelt]

floor 5?

[vague fern]

you dont count

[sage smelt]

oh

[vague fern]

yk that

[smoky fractal]

unfair

[short meadow]

whats the second boss?

[vague fern]

|| elder hu ||

[sage smelt]

what.

[vague fern]

@smoky fractal

[short meadow]

the second boss in the photo

[sage smelt]

how has this been done lmao

[smoky fractal]

it is an odd order to do things

[vague fern]

noo not that

uh

|| r5|| with this when

create lag is peak trust

[smoky fractal]

no

[sage smelt]

how would you even deal damage

||cdash||?

[vague fern]

you dont do them all at once

ig

[vague fern]

actually true lol

[brave karma]

doesnt it damage u

[sage smelt]

i think when you charge it theres an aoe effect

that allows you to damage stuff behind you

oh wait

bro

[sage smelt]

||grimmchild, glowing womb, weaver thing||

not ||p5ab|| plsu restrictions, just ||r5||

[vague fern]

i wanna try the lag one and see how hard it is

[sage smelt]

lol

is the lag input delay or fps issues

[vague fern]

fps

[sage smelt]

ohk

[vague fern]

its like every frame

but you have || godseeker+||, you can turn it on and see what its like

[sage smelt]

no.

[azure rock]

any tips for ||nkg|| and ||what loadout should I use||

[sage smelt]

also ||toggleable bindings|| is the reason why i lsot 3 ||p4ab|| runs lmaooo

i didn't know you had to turn it off before starting a ||pantheon||

[sage smelt]

base game or ||godhome||

[vague fern]

i never knew either because i just did it incase it overlapped weirdly

[azure rock]

base

[sage smelt]

try ||grimmchild strength heaert sharp shadow nmg||

[azure rock]

||wait unbreakable heart? and what's nmg||

[lilac jungle]

hey

[sage smelt]

yup and ||nailmasters glory||

[lilac jungle]

does the || mentis lords larp boss fight have undogeable attack the biug slash || ?

[sage smelt]

you dont need ||heart|| but i just didn't know what else to put

i guess ||longnail||?

[azure rock]

ty

[sage smelt]

||baldurs shell|| is alr too ig

but i wouldn't recommend if this is your first playthrough

[lilac jungle]

?

[sage smelt]

what.

ik the question just elaborate

[lilac jungle]

the || mentis lords larp in queens garden ||

[sage smelt]

ohhh

you mean ||traitor lord||?

no

[lilac jungle]

idk the name

is the big || vertically extending slash undogeable ||

[sage smelt]

you mean this?

[lilac jungle]

yes

this guy

[sage smelt]

like when he punches the ground?

[lilac jungle]

hmm

[sage smelt]

like he punches the ground and theres like a white shockwave going in both directions

[lilac jungle]

yes

[sage smelt]

you have to use ||shade cloak|| or ||ddark||

or ||baldurs shell||

[lilac jungle]

i have the first one

[sage smelt]

wouldn't recommend

[lilac jungle]

i have

|| shade cloak||
\

[sage smelt]

oop

|||make sure its not on cooldown and just dash through it
||

[lilac jungle]

it has cooldown?

hlo

?

😭

[sage smelt]

yea it does

wait

do you have ||shade soul|| or ||shade cloak||

you need ||shade cloak|| to get to the fight no?

[lilac jungle]

yes you need

[sage smelt]

WHAT

||when shade cloak is on cooldown you can see the void coming back into you
||

you can tell youve used it when you turn black during the ||dash||

[lilac jungle]

oh

dumb me

didnt read the thing

when i recieved it

[sage smelt]

lol alg

[drifting tundra]

can someone help me with ||trial of fools|| I've been stuck on it for DAYS I CANT GET PAST THE LAST ONE

[sage smelt]

||what charms are you using||

[drifting tundra]

||nail master glory, grubsong, mark of pride, unbreakable strenght, aaand sharp shadow||

||nail master glory, grubsong, mark of pride, unbreakable strenght, aaand sharp shadow||

[sage smelt]

yeah ok well this is one of the times you dont want ||ss||

believe it or not

[drifting tundra]

oh?

[sage smelt]

||nmg|| is god

maybe not ||grubsong|| but if youre getting hit a lot ig why not

[drifting tundra]

oh i get hit A LOT

[sage smelt]

||strength is good but id recommend replacing mop with shaman and utilise spells more||

but if you prefer nail only then ig ||mop|| is alright

[drifting tundra]

dang || aspids ||

[sage smelt]

also would recommend ||quickslash||

but i dont think it matters that much since it's not a bossfight

still very nice to have tho

for those just ||shade soul|| them

[drifting lintel]

there is one though

[sage smelt]

other than that

also for that abusing ||cyclone slash|| is a lot better

especially since hes got ||nmg||

[drifting lintel]

fair enough

[drifting tundra]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa its so hard ;-;

[sage smelt]

oh yea

also replace ||sharp shadow|| with ||heart or something||

OH WAIT its gonna break

im assuming you dont have ||unbreakable|| charms yet?

[drifting tundra]

i have all except for the money one

[sage smelt]

ohk

then try ||quickslash strength shaman nmg||

do you have 10 or 11 ||charm notches||

[drifting tundra]

i got 10

[sage smelt]

ok then use this

||use spells to one shot aspids and the flying mantis dudes that throws the thingies
||

anything you dont want to deal with

[surreal steeple]

any tips for ||markoth in godhome||

[lilac jungle]

hi guys

|| i just beat the traitor lord , gone to the left and got some thingy ||

[sage smelt]

gg

[sage smelt]

spam ||nail arts||

[surreal steeple]

||great slash specifically unless he's just on the ground for whatever reason?||

[sage smelt]

mainly ||dash slash|| and ||great slash||

[sage smelt]

dont ||cyclone slash||

[surreal steeple]

omg I forgot ||dash slash existed||

[sage smelt]

if youre doing ||ab|| use ||shade soul|| to double hit when possible

[surreal steeple]

wait how does it work again

[sage smelt]

||dash|| and immediately let go of the attack button

[surreal steeple]

is it easy to like

not kill urself while tryna do that

[sage smelt]

if not then just save for phase 2 then spam ||abyss shriek||

[sage smelt]

yea

if youre careful yea

[surreal steeple]

huh ok

I just havent tried yet lol

[sage smelt]

lol

[lilac jungle]

@sage smelt

i have like not used any || blue health thingy ||

|| i have all on the map ||

if hk is the || last boss , maybe i should stack all up ||

or is that a bad idea

[surreal steeple]

no need to

if u rlly want to and will be able to keep all that sure ig but u dont really need to d othat

[lilac jungle]

have i beaten any harder boss than him

[surreal steeple]

idk

what have u beat so far

did u do any dlc stuff

[lilac jungle]

dlc ?

[sage smelt]

yes

that'll take forever lmao

[surreal steeple]

do u know abt anything related to ||red vampire stuff or yellow cloud stuff||

[lilac jungle]

no

[surreal steeple]

or have u seen anything related to that

[sage smelt]

what.

oh nvm I just understood lmao

[surreal steeple]

xdd

[sage smelt]

w descriptions

[surreal steeple]

idk if I'm suposed to give the name or not

[lilac jungle]

my greatest ahcievemnt so far

[civic forge]

U can js spoiler mark it no

[lilac jungle]

|| the lost kin dream one and the hornet 2nd fight and the shell fight ||

[surreal steeple]

idk if they want to get spoiled the names of them or not :P

[lilac jungle]

no i dont

wanna

[civic forge]

Yes ||hk|| would be the hardest boss you've fought so far

[surreal steeple]

I'd say ||hk|| is hardest then yeah

[sage smelt]

wait which ending are you going for

do you know

[surreal steeple]

just fyi the dlc names are in the main menu

maybe not content wise but the names are there

[lilac jungle]

idk , i am just going for 100 % completion

[surreal steeple]

the first one obviously...

[lilac jungle]

i am at 75 %

[civic forge]

You can send a picture of your charm build if you want help building it

[orchid flower]

I don’t think the names of the DLC is really spoilers it’s just on the game’s page

[sage smelt]

well hes going for ||kingsoul||

[surreal steeple]

oh

ok well nvm then lmao

wait

then he should already have ||defeated hk?||

[sage smelt]

have you gotten first ending yet

[surreal steeple]

or am I thinking wrong

[lilac jungle]

?

[civic forge]

How'd you know he's going for that

[sage smelt]

maybe he did what I did and skipped for some reason

[sage smelt]

I think he said earlier that he defeated ||traitor lord||

[surreal steeple]

ooh wait u dont need first ending for ||kingsoul|| lol

[lilac jungle]

just now a few minutes ago

[sage smelt]

yeah

[civic forge]

Doesn't mean he's going for d no more

[surreal steeple]

u need it for ||the other shadow one|| right

[sage smelt]

yeah but it's a strange thing to go for if you're only after the first ending

[lament flicker]

Took me like 15-20 attempts to beat ||radiance|| and even then I was hanging by a thread how many do yall think ||nkg|| will take me

[civic forge]

I don't think he's done ||white palace||

[sage smelt]

20

[surreal steeple]

once u know his moveset he's ez

[civic forge]

He's a boss where if you learn the attacks he becomes easy

[drifting lintel]

a lot more

[surreal steeple]

(and fun)

[civic forge]

Bruh

[sage smelt]

||wait @lilac jungle have you gotten an ending yet||

[surreal steeple]

u just need to know what to do for each move and ur good

[orchid flower]

It’s a much less dynamic fight is what they’re saying

He’s entirely predictable

[surreal steeple]

yeah

[lament flicker]

I'm betting 30 cuz Im super jumpy so I always try to panic dodge something that wouldnt even hit me if I stayed still

[lilac jungle]

my || charms ||

[drifting lintel]

you can say that for every boss

[sage smelt]

lol

[surreal steeple]

once u know what he's doing it's like a dance :D

[civic forge]

No I mean bc I said the same thing a couple secs after

[orchid flower]

Not in this way

[drifting lintel]

fair

[civic forge]

Bc it is a dance...

[sage smelt]

use ||shaman or mop instead of quick focus||

[lilac jungle]

no no , i dont use that

[orchid flower]

||I could do NKG hitless 30 times in a row but good luck doing AbsRad hitless a single time 😅||

[civic forge]

We mean he's rlly low rng

[surreal steeple]

well yeah but comparatively ||nkg does things very predictably and easy to counter/dodge stuff||

[lilac jungle]

|| i used it for boss fights only ||

[lament flicker]

The first one is this is like me trying to play both my clarinet and violin at the same time while boxing someone

[civic forge]

Yeah cos ||absrad|| is possibly one of the most rng bosses in the game

[sage smelt]

not true

[surreal steeple]

rng inflates difficulty ig..

[sage smelt]

that goes to ||gpz||

[surreal steeple]

:(

[civic forge]

He's not even that hard

[lilac jungle]

i btw opened all || stags ||

[surreal steeple]

he's so

bleh

I just dont enjoy his fight ngl

[lilac jungle]

and resuced 70 % or smth of the sons

[lament flicker]

Ye he Telegraphs things but it's so fast that by the time I'm registering it he finished the attack

[sage smelt]

try doing him in ||p3ab||

[lilac jungle]

guys listen

[civic forge]

My biggest nitpick is if ur in front of him he can js walk into you with no telegraph

[surreal steeple]

once u practice enough you'll read it instantly

[sage smelt]

real, same with ||traitor lord||

[orchid flower]

Shes not RNG. Neither is ||GPZ||

[lilac jungle]

|| before fighting hk , i wanna do all the bosses i may have left , i have left a lot of dream ones for sure and more i think || can anyone give me a list or name them so i can see which i havent

[civic forge]

I've done him ||radiant in HoG|| does that count?

[orchid flower]

No

[sage smelt]

no thats easy

[civic forge]

Are you sure?

[orchid flower]

He’s more difficult in ||AB||

[orchid flower]

Yes

[surreal steeple]

oh fyi ||defeating hk doesnt end the game||

[sage smelt]

ig in ||p3ab|| its the summons that makes it difficult

[surreal steeple]

but if u truly want every other boss....

[lament flicker]

My brain is just slow to understand so even then I have to make a guess between two attacks or else not even try to dodge either

[orchid flower]

Them taking two hits to kill is a game changer

[vague fern]

Not true at all lol

[sage smelt]

yeah you can keep playing after

[sage smelt]

yeah

[lilac jungle]

but i dont feel like beating him rn

i wanna go to || dream||

[civic forge]

Well theyre rng and hard which makes them annoying

[sage smelt]

I would say ||markoth but it really isnt that much rng||

[vague fern]

Everyone says theyre rng when they havent learnt the fight

[orchid flower]

None of the bosses have RNG

[vague fern]

Its natural, but you learn to make it consistent

[surreal steeple]

||false knight, soul master both have dream versions||

[sage smelt]

I don't think any boss has bad rng

[orchid flower]

In my experience

[surreal steeple]

cant remember what else does that isnt dlc

[vague fern]

Only annoying rng for me is || bv and lost kin ||

The jumps are coded to be rng

[lament flicker]

Well the attacks are randomly chosen most of the time so it is some rng

[smoky fractal]

||Marmuuu||

[sage smelt]

I think theres worse

[vague fern]

Thats... not how that works

[sage smelt]

OH YEAAA

[orchid flower]

When people say RNG they usually mean the game decides they take damage

[sage smelt]

anti||lifebloodd||

[vague fern]

And || galien ||

[orchid flower]

It’s usually just they don’t know how to position properly

[sage smelt]

yeah

[orchid flower]

So they assume there’s nothing they can do

[lament flicker]

There are times when an attack is hard coded to happen but the rest of the time it's randomly picked

[smoky fractal]

okay to be fair ||absrad|| is fairly rng but it is negatable with a lot of experience

[sage smelt]

I thought it meant there's good chance the boss does an 'attack' untelegraphed

[orchid flower]

She really just isn’t 😅

The only flaw in the fight is the ||phantom orbs||, idk if that ever got patched

[civic forge]

Js don't go above him

[sage smelt]

i would say that too but this greyfire dude is cracked

[vague fern]

Im well aware, just because a boss can do multiple attacks doesnt make it rng lol, theres a thing called telegraphing

[surreal steeple]

but how does one not go above him...

:(

[vague fern]

💀

Thats not at all relevant what

[lament flicker]

Is putting on so much health that an 18 wheeler could hit me and I'd survive viable for ||nkg?||

[obsidian coyote]

tis the second time i have seen an argument about rng and a boss fight

[sage smelt]

sure

[surreal steeple]

I mean I'd rather do dmg buffs but sure

[vague fern]

Some bosses are rng, but theyre negatable

Its really simple

[civic forge]

I thought u were talking about the untelegraphed jumps no?

[lament flicker]

Yes they will Telegraph but the attacks still have some rng

[vague fern]

The distance they jump is completely random

[smoky fractal]

some combinations of|| absrad|| attacks make the fight significantly harder or longer, especially in ||platform phase||, so it is very rng. At no point is the fight not doable though

[lament flicker]

Ok

[sage smelt]

you mean phase 4 or 5

[vague fern]

And your ability to dodge it is dependant on your genes which was random. You dont consider it though because its irrelevant

[orchid flower]

That’s what I meant. When people say she’s RNG it’s usually a complaint about how her attacks are undodgeable

[smoky fractal]

4

[orchid flower]

Which is never the case

[sage smelt]

4 is easy

[obsidian coyote]

we talkin about rng or luck?? they are different

[sage smelt]

but you have to play really passive

[smoky fractal]

well no boss is undodgeable anyway

[vague fern]

Every fight has rng but the only relevant rng is where it makes the fight super hard or outright impossible

[smoky fractal]

||absrad beam wall into beam burst|| is an example of rng making the fight extremely difficult

[sage smelt]

how

[obsidian coyote]

dam im gonna attempt || p5||

[surreal steeple]

that doesnt sound that hard.......

[sage smelt]

gl

[smoky fractal]

||the beam wall covers a lot of the telegraph of beam burst||

[obsidian coyote]

THIS ONE IS THE ONE

[vague fern]

'Hard' is arbitrary

[surreal steeple]

true

[sage smelt]

maybe it is in ||p5ab|| idk

[sage smelt]

ohhhhh

[civic forge]

Bro why are we talking about this in the help channel anyway

[surreal steeple]

xdd

this started from

[civic forge]

Guys should we all move to discussion?

[surreal steeple]

a question

[vague fern]

No one is asking for help so its not getting in the way of anything

[sage smelt]

I've never had that issue tho so idk

[surreal steeple]

or smth

idek

[civic forge]

I mean ig

[vague fern]

If you can || ddark|| its not really an issue

If you cant then it is

[surreal steeple]

||ddark|| my beloved

[sage smelt]

i dont usually ||ddark|| during ||absrad||

ive done it like once or twice to avoid ||the orbs||

ive only recently started using ||spells|| for ||absrad|| and its basically only ||shriek||

[true mural]

Lol valid

Thats what ive been doin too

[sage smelt]

W

for some reason when i first learned ||absrad|| i defaulted to nail only

then i asked lune for tips and he was like

'use ||spells||'

[true mural]

SAME TWINNN

[sage smelt]

i was like

wait

YOU CAN DO THAT

[true mural]

Yeah apparently

[sage smelt]

😂

[true mural]

Funnily enough

[sage smelt]

then i started using ||shriek|| and i was like

WOW

THIS IS FAST

this is after i beat ||p5|| twice btw

💀

[true mural]

||Shade soul|| has ONE use in the fight

[sage smelt]

what

[true mural]

Funni hanging in the air while the swords pass below u(from the side)

Almost never useful btw.

[sage smelt]

||i believe abyss shriek is better cos no kb||

[true mural]

I mean

It is useful

But

Why waste the soul for it?

[sage smelt]

its useful for like ||anyrad|| but not ||absrad||

[smoky fractal]

all the ||spells|| have use in the fight

[vague fern]

|| shade soul|| hardly though its a bit neglected 🙁

[smoky fractal]

with ||DDark|| being most useful

[sage smelt]

i love ||shade soul||

its so good for ||ab||

so convenient

[smoky fractal]

||phase 4 double hits on the far platforms||

[true mural]

Im still struggling after 20 hours(mainly bcz i didnt know u can train on ||Absrad|| untill the 93rd hour. Im on my 96th rn. )

[sage smelt]

whack whack whack ||shade soul||

[sage smelt]

lmaooo

[vague fern]

im aware, thats what i mean hardly though

[sage smelt]

WHAT

i never knew that

wait why

[vague fern]

because its only in that case and if you have the spare soul, otherwise id rather hold for || ddark|| to yk live

[sage smelt]

why won't it double hit on all platforms then

[true mural]

FUH

[vague fern]

|| double hits|| are often based on distance

[sage smelt]

WHAT

[vague fern]

but they might do it up close, you just wouldnt bother

[true mural]

||Like i legit walked near the door of his in Hall of Gods, and it never opened for me||

[sage smelt]

wait why

[sage smelt]

lol

you have to walk straight up to the door

[vague fern]

no clue

[true mural]

20 hours down the drain🫡

[smoky fractal]

||on close platforms other spells are better||

[vague fern]

|| ddark|| carry

[sage smelt]

ohhh

can you always ||double hit||

[sage smelt]

for ||absrad abyss shriek|| carries harder

[vague fern]

id disagree

[true mural]

I think its like a ||Markoth kind of shit with the double hits||

[sage smelt]

when would you use ||ddark||

[smoky fractal]

||you can force it by positioning slightly further away but in a middle platform based fight it is not worth||

[sage smelt]

its literally only for when you have like 50 orbs on screen

[sage smelt]

ah

[smoky fractal]

||when you move to the same platform as her or when she moves to the same platform as you||

[sage smelt]

and if that happens you need to reconsider what youre doing

[true mural]

When ur close to ||absrad on the platforms and he does beam attack/sword attack, when ur tryna push down the spikes, orbs, etc||

[sage smelt]

oh yeah you guys are actually good and chase her mb

[vague fern]

|| you can iframe overlapping attacks which means you can attack more at the cost of them overlapping, ex when you break spikes and a wall at the same time.||

|| but MOSTLY for plats, if she spawns on you thats when u get most of the dmg, so you ddark to iframe the burst or wtv attack then you can do like 20000 dmg ||

[sage smelt]

oh i forgot about that too

[vague fern]

you can 1 cycle her sometiems in plats bc of it

but most of the time its 2 cycle

[sage smelt]

wdym spikes and a wall

what wall

oh ||beam wall||

lmao

[vague fern]

|| ddark breaks spikes and can iframe through the beam wall||

[smoky fractal]

||only in the platform phase does it work though, technically in phase 2 you can use it to destroy ground spikes but the rest of the fight is mostly abyss shriek and DDark for i frames||

[sage smelt]

yea

[vague fern]

you kinda || shriek|| more ground phase, and || ddark|| more on plats

[sage smelt]

i think i should do it more

[true mural]

I almost never manage to hit the iframes of ||Shriek||
I always get interrupted. When do the iframes activate?

[sage smelt]

||i know you can ddark to get rid of the ground spikes but i dont usually do it
||

[sage smelt]

you dont get any

||ddark|| is the only spell that gives iframes

[true mural]

Well then my friend is an idiot.

[sage smelt]

🔥

[true mural]

👍

Bro couldve sworn on his life that ||Shriek has iframes||

[sage smelt]

bro if it did then ||shriek|| would be the most op ||spell||

because ||ddark|| requires a ground under you

if greyfire tells me it does gives iframes imma cry

[smoky fractal]

ye neither ||shriek|| nor ||shade soul|| give i frames

[vague fern]

it doesnt lol

[sage smelt]

ohk lol

[true mural]

||I mean shade doesnt really mater bcz you fire the soul either way ||

[sage smelt]

btw whats going on with the mods and admins of this server

ive never seen one say anything lol

[sage smelt]

lol

[sage smelt]

and ||shriek|| with iframes also stalls you in the air

[vague fern]

they mostly speak in sk channels or #hk-general

[sage smelt]

o

why is ||silksong|| sk

[vague fern]

because ss is a nazi term

[sage smelt]

||skong||?

oh

[vague fern]

and theyre partnered with discord

[true mural]

Yea but when we ping them they dont do shi

Atleast from my experience.

[true mural]

Dang thats the first i hear about it

[sage smelt]

me who named my silksong ||steel soul|| backup ss ss

[true mural]

🐍 Kind of thing

[sage smelt]

yeah i never made that connection

:\

[true mural]

. _.?

[sage smelt]

ss was always ||skong|| for me

[true mural]

Same lol

[sage smelt]

lol

@true mural you gonna beat rad ||absrad|| before attempting ||p5|| again or na

[true mural]

Beat his ass 5 times in a row yesterday

[sage smelt]

||attuned||?

[true mural]

Did 2 more wins before leaving

[obsidian coyote]

something ima do if i can get to it ngl

[true mural]

Yea since that's the ||p5 equivalent||

[sage smelt]

i would recommend beating it on ||ascended|| at least

to give confidence

also why not

[true mural]

[sage smelt]

gl

[obsidian coyote]

im at || nosk|| atm

[true mural]

Too bad i cant rn since im goin to school

[sage smelt]

i love the emoji

[sage smelt]

lol are you going rn

like on the way

[true mural]

I mean it is 7:39 rn

Yes

[sage smelt]

you mean ||winged nosk||?

[true mural]

On the bus:D

[sage smelt]

lol

[slate fable]

anyone know how ||clawless crystal peaks|| is gonna be while only having ||mothwing cloak||
like what should i be expecting, its for a challenge run im doing

[sage smelt]

wait

[obsidian coyote]

yes

[sage smelt]

oh youre not aussie

[true mural]

No mate im a Romanian wallet stealer🫡

[sage smelt]

theres a few skips i believe but for the most part i think its impossible

||maybe theres some shade skips idk||

gl tho

[slate fable]

||afaik its possible but this is ofc taking skips into account||

[sage smelt]

yea

[slate fable]

without them i have no idea but thankfully im not limited on that in this run

[sage smelt]

the ||cheart|| room will be awful

[sage smelt]

lmao

[slate fable]

||ill be able to backtrack and get claw beforehand so i dont have to worry about that too much but yeah||

[sage smelt]

wait whats the challenge

[slate fable]

but im tempted to not backtrack and just thug it out

[sage smelt]

i assumed it was ||no claw||

[slate fable]

Beating the game in (largely) OST order which is going to require a lot of funky skips

[sage smelt]

ohhhh

W

pretty cool

[slate fable]

yeah, i wanna do the same for silksong too eventually thank you for your help

[sinful thicket]

Hi I’m in || soul sanctum || and this… miniboss? Is kicking my ass
|| he use a sword and shoot souls sometimes, but doesn’t float ||
Any tips?

[wanton narwhal]

jump over ||dashes||, jump over ||souls||, and walk to the left or right when they attack downward

[sinful thicket]

Mostly for healing time windows

[wanton narwhal]

u can't heal very well

[sinful thicket]

Cuz I keep getting hit when healing

Oh

[wanton narwhal]

just kill it quickly

don't try to heal

[sinful thicket]

Ok

I beat it thankssss

[hardy stump]

any tipps on ||great nailsage sly?||

[sage smelt]

just be patient

dont rush attacks there isn't that many openings to attack

hes not like ||lost kin|| or ||hornet|| where you can just beat the shit outta them

[hardy stump]

alr

[dusty vault]

if im on ||soul master with up spell, downspell and +1 mask is there something else i should get||

[sage smelt]

how the fuck do you have ||desolate dive||

lmao

what

ohhh do you have ||ddark||

i think you should be fine

[summer echo]

wait u cant get ||ddark|| without ||desolate dive||

[sage smelt]

i think you can

whats preventing you

oh wait there was a breakable ground wasn't there

[hardy stump]

who even struggles on|| uumuu|| bro

[sage smelt]

what

[sage smelt]

was there

oh there is

lmao

wheres 'holy land'

ok it fixed itself wtf

[short furnace]

Play passively. When he does his spinning attack ||dash|| close to him to get 2 hits in. During his ||great slash|| jump over him for another 2 hits. During his last phase what i like to do is save my hp to max and just bruteforce him

There's barely any openings so you'll have to wait for the right opportunities

Also when he is staggered you can go for 3 heals depending how close he is to his nail

[hardy stump]

i just wanted to try ||steel soul mode||

[sage smelt]

lmao gl

[hardy stump]

thx

W ||pure vessel||

[sage smelt]

are you actually gonna use fof

@smoky fractal i was reading your ||p5ab|| guide whats the exploit?

[smoky fractal]

for what boss?

[sage smelt]

||failed champion||

[smoky fractal]

||when he's on one side of the arena go to the other and instead of picking a random attack he will always walk over and jump attack||

you have to be about half the arena away or more

[sage smelt]

ohhhh

ty

are you sure you cant sneak in a fourth ||m1|| during tantrum

[smoky fractal]

you might be able to but the ||cyclone and shriek|| are the most important things

[sage smelt]

ok

[smoky fractal]

consistency wise 3 is almost always doable and 4 is sometimes doable

[sage smelt]

alr thx

[smoky fractal]

np

[sage smelt]

i dont think ill use the exploit

im doing worse trying to use it lol

[smoky fractal]

fair, it isn't free just an option

[sage smelt]

yea

honestly i wouldn't call it an exploit

should i be a bit further away for ||shriek||

i missed the third damage tick

like should i be standing literally in his face

[vague fern]

you stand at like the edge of his head

also helps to not take damage

[sage smelt]

ahk thx

[sinful thicket]

What should I buy first? (I don’t have enough geo for all)

[sage smelt]

prob ||lantern||

or ||mas shards||

[sinful thicket]

|| (Can grind for lantern if needed) ||

Okie

[sage smelt]

guys how many ||m1s|| to extend ||cyclone|| slash to max

and will pressing less mean slightly shorter ||cyclone slash||

[obsidian coyote]

wait click m1 increases time ??

[sage smelt]

yes.

[obsidian coyote]

clicking*

i never knew

[smoky fractal]

idk exactly but you can just spam it it doesn't matter as long as you want max time

[sage smelt]

not always

[smoky fractal]

you can have semi extended yes

[sage smelt]

like if you get there a bit late

its a bit risky to do fully extended

so i want the option to do 1 less than fully exntended

[smoky fractal]

you can just press once extra for a little extended

or 2 extra for more iirc

[sage smelt]

ahk thx

[vague fern]

base is 3 hits, every m1 extends it by 1 i believe (to 6)

you kinda just dont m1 or spam it though

i can only think of 1 example where i do it semi

[smoky fractal]

at the start of ||hornet 1|| I used to semi extend because fully extended can sometimes trap you into the|| spear attack||, then I realised I don't care enough

[sage smelt]

NO\

i choked lol

[sage smelt]

lol

[vague fern]

fully extended staggers before she can attack

wdym

[smoky fractal]

if she goes into instant spear she can't stagger in that state

[obsidian coyote]

same

[vague fern]

i have never had that happen to me before

[smoky fractal]

so if you start it slightly late you can get whacked

just a consistency thing really

[vague fern]

without || nmg || the timing is perfect if you just do it right away

[smoky fractal]

but now I just don't care and reset on a hit

[vague fern]

with || nmg|| its a lil harder

[sage smelt]

any tips for the barrels?

do i just have to get good

[smoky fractal]

you can ||upslash ||them or just hug the walls

[vague fern]

barrels?

[shut sparrow]

lun

[smoky fractal]

the falling rocks in fc

[mighty portal]

I just got ||kings mark|| what now?

[vague fern]

nonsense

[shut sparrow]

read its description and try to figure out where to use it

greyfire in help??

[smoky fractal]

some @ ed me about ||all bindings|| help

[shut sparrow]

when's the video done

[smoky fractal]

wait which video

what have I forgot this time

oh wait I was going to make videos on boss healing windows

[shut sparrow]

were you?

lune just told me you were doing an ||ab|| guide

[smoky fractal]

for ||absrad|| mainly

[vague fern]

document

video version when

[smoky fractal]

I'll show
||https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qC88RU8IXwrY58MpmXZs14UO1ECRUqBTo12RDVIKIYE/edit?usp=sharing||

it is anonymous to access don't worry

[sage smelt]

when ||fc|| spawns should i ||shriek or cyclone||

[bright hamlet]

Anything to do here?

[sage smelt]

youvev done what needs to be done

[smoky fractal]

||if you have soul shriek if not cyclone||

[sage smelt]

ok ty

[flint crane]

Are ||sisters of battle and winked nosk|| required for ||hunter's mark||

[sage smelt]

dont think so

[vague fern]

i dont even think theyre an entry

[sage smelt]

ye

[primal ibex]

Allows more exploration

[bright hamlet]

Huh?

[sage smelt]

.

[primal ibex]

Go down and right

[bright hamlet]

Oh I got the thing.

[bright hamlet]

Thanks

[bright hamlet]

Thanks anyways

[primal ibex]

That light is the thing that allows you to reach it

[sage smelt]

WHY

DO I ALWAYS CHOKE

THE LAST PART

BRUH

[bright hamlet]

Where is the ||abyss shriek||

[sage smelt]

||shade cloak but go left||

[bright hamlet]

All I have is this...

[sage smelt]

go onto the platform and ||use howling wraiths||

[blazing trail]

Use it here

[bright hamlet]

Now what is ||howling wraiths||

[blazing trail]

||The spell bro||

[bright hamlet]

I don't have it...

[sage smelt]

||w + ability button||

oops

||up and ability button||

[bright hamlet]

HOW DID I MISS A WHOLE ASS SPELL

[blazing trail]

Then u can't get ||abyss shriek||

[bright hamlet]

Dw lol I have the same keybund

[bright hamlet]

How do I get that spell now

[blazing trail]

Maybe figure out yourself

[bright hamlet]

It's ||fog canyon|| isn't it

God I hate that area

[sage smelt]

WHAT THE FUCK

[blazing trail]

Yeah

[sage smelt]

anyways its in ||greenpath|| iirc

WHY

im starting to hate ||fc||

[fervent violet]

goog morning

[sage smelt]

YESSS

OMG

[sage smelt]

mornin

[sage smelt]

also why does it say youre a likely scammer lmao

@smoky fractal (sorry for ping) is it worth saving soul for ||abyss shriek isntead of shade soul for enraged guardian||

[smoky fractal]

I like to ||abyss shriek but if you don't find it consistent DDark is the best alternative imo and very good||

[blazing trail]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sage smelt]

ahk th

thx

[smoky fractal]

Also I'm out atm so don't mind pinging me I will respond but it may take time

[sage smelt]

alr

[balmy vault]

Is ||the colosseum of fools|| needed to go forward in the game or is Just a side thing?

[vague fern]

Side thing

[balmy vault]

Thanks

[native tinsel]

A side thing but it does give 3% once completed

[keen pilot]

how do i kill him he keeps running away and im stuck in the room

[sage smelt]

chase him and pray

[blazing trail]

u gotta chase him and get 2 or 3 hits until u kill him

[keen pilot]

ok

[azure rock]

loadout for ||colosium of fools 3||

[fervent violet]

erm hi 🤓

[sage smelt]

?

[azure rock]

||the third/golden trial for Colosseum of holes||

[sage smelt]

yea ik what it is

wdym loadout

do you want a charm loadout or?

i gave you one no?

[smoky fractal]

take a ||spell build|| with ||nailmasters glory|| included in it

[elfin locust]

||If I change my fragile charm into unbreakable, will my overall completion percentage increase?||

[sage smelt]

no

its optional

[elfin locust]

Ok thx

[frosty ocean]

GUYS

BIG PROBLEM

How to fix your falling slow

[fervent violet]

wut

[azure rock]

ty

[azure rock]

Thats a bug

[frosty ocean]

I don wanna lose my ||p5|| process

😭

[obsidian coyote]

wat boss u on?

[azure rock]

I'm going to hold you balls when I say this and scratch them

You could just do it again

[frosty ocean]

I finished ||hornet 2.0||

[frosty ocean]

NO

NO

[obsidian coyote]

ohh

[frosty ocean]

FUCK NO

HELL NAH

I AINT RESTSRTIJG

[obsidian coyote]

hmmm lemme think u should be starting || p4|| of || p5||

so

[azure rock]

You could try restarting your game since you sat at a bench

[obsidian coyote]

wat

[frosty ocean]

I can’t bruh

[obsidian coyote]

No

[frosty ocean]

That just restarts the entire fight

Should I try fight

[obsidian coyote]

basically all of || p4|| is next plus 1 or 2 extras

[frosty ocean]

I CANT USE ||SPELLS||

AND ||FOCUS||

GOD IM DIED

[obsidian coyote]

why?

[frosty ocean]

IM DEAD

IDK

[obsidian coyote]

waht

[obsidian coyote]

fr or not

[frosty ocean]

It’s back to normal

I went in the door

[obsidian coyote]

ok gud

[frosty ocean]

I don wanna die😭

[azure rock]

Lock in twin

[obsidian coyote]

i died 4 bosses from the last boss 😭

[azure rock]

So this is what it feels like to not be in ||godhome||

[frosty ocean]

Got ||lost kin||

[obsidian coyote]

Gj

[frosty ocean]

Now ||no eyes||

[azure rock]

Gg

[obsidian coyote]

i can tell u what bosses are up and coming

[azure rock]

Your cooked twin

[frosty ocean]

Got em

||traitor lord||

[obsidian coyote]

there is 1 new boss i believe i can telll you

and another

[frosty ocean]

I got dung

Whats next

[obsidian coyote]

next i think is || markoth||

[frosty ocean]

I’m cooked

[obsidian coyote]

and u have to vs || nkg||

3 rd last

[frosty ocean]

After ||nkg|| is rest right?

||nkg then ps?||

[obsidian coyote]

idk when ||nkg|| is

[obsidian coyote]

||PV||?

[frosty ocean]

Yea yea

[obsidian coyote]

thats 2nd last

[frosty ocean]

Is this good

[obsidian coyote]

going from where to where?

[frosty ocean]

Idk

[obsidian coyote]

ur going to have to fight || nkg and markoth || and more with that after || nkg|| is a || bench|| and then || pv|| and then idk i havent gotten past ||Pv||

with that build*

[frosty ocean]

Ok

Lemme get cooked

[obsidian coyote]

lol

ima go

[frosty ocean]

It’s ||soul tyrant|| not ||markoth||

[obsidian coyote]

oh

mb

MB

i have shit memory

[frosty ocean]

IM MAD

GOD

I DIED

NFNFOEJDC

D

WFNCKOA

WFCNAOWC

CIWNEC

AJENC

AWONFCO

[smoky fractal]

||which pantheon? 5?||

[frosty ocean]

Yes

[obsidian coyote]

mb

bro

[fading halo]

yes the last || charm is debatable but otherwise strong build||

[sage smelt]

holy

[frosty ocean]

I go play silksong and get memento

[sage smelt]

lmao

[frosty ocean]

I hate ur double damage

[sage smelt]

D:

[frosty ocean]

Be more gentle💀

[sage smelt]

||https://tenor.com/view/silk-issue-gif-17994060641214438312||

oh

gifs dont work in this channel

D:

[sage smelt]

then do it ||overcharmed|| lol

[frosty ocean]

Hell naw

[sage smelt]

||pv|| wont do double damage anymore

i mean

if you dont like quadruple damage

do it on ||ascended|| as well

:)

[short furnace]

You deal too little damage

[sage smelt]

real

[mighty eagle]

what the best way to get a lot of geo fast(36000 geo)

[vague fern]

Can you send your map

[mighty eagle]

?

[sage smelt]

whoever sent the geo guide earlier send it here

[vague fern]

to avoid spoilers

Or if you have every map that works too

[mighty eagle]

yeah I am at the end I just need 36000 for you knok what a what.

[mighty eagle]

I'll see thanks

[vague fern]

alr gimme a sec

Potential charm spoilers: || https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2EihyH1Jjg||

[mighty eagle]

Thanks

[vague fern]

An arguably more fun but slower method is just || colo 2 ||

[sage smelt]

yea