hk-help

[hoary granite]

also is there an “established” order of regions you do. Cause I understand you can technically go anywhere (if you have the required mobility)

[wide hearth]

||r||

Got it

[torn kettle]

what is thatr

[short meadow]

||grey prince zote||

[obsidian coyote]

is it worth killing the || hive knight ||???

[torn kettle]

if you want to do the optional challenge in ||white palace|| ||(Path of Pain)|| after the fight theres a charm that ||makes your masks like honey or something and regenerates masks after a time|| so its pretty useful

[obsidian coyote]

dam so i should kil him its just such a pain getting back there cause i have 9k geo but i just equipped my boss fight charms so wish me luck im about to fight him any tips?

ok

[torn kettle]

||just dash||

[obsidian coyote]

i saw the message

[torn kettle]

god damn i have to make everything a spoiler

you literally get that ability in the first 30 mins

[thick wing]

try to brute force it he doesnt have much health

[torn kettle]

who joins a dsicord not having played atleast 30 mins of the game without expecting spoilers

[torn kettle]

also yes

[surreal steeple]

does ||shadow dash not work when failed champion's using the mace?||

[obsidian coyote]

i got so close ithink idk because he did the spitting things thing 2 time

[surreal steeple]

almost all the time I try using it I get hit

[hoary granite]

i joined b4 30 minutes but i was just not looking 🤷‍♂️

[torn kettle]

im pretty sure it works

its just precise

[thick wing]

i think the hitbox is too big to go through him

yea it might actually needs to be precise

[surreal steeple]

ooooh ic

where's the hitbox for the ||mace||?

[thick wing]

big but small enough to jump around it

[surreal steeple]

ok

I think I'll just have to play to get a feel for it

thx

[thick wing]

best way to just go away and come back when he tries to hit u

[ruby hull]

What can make it not worth it

Bosses are meant to be worth killing wym

[obsidian coyote]

i wanna know if i should just kill him later

[surreal steeple]

ok

[ruby hull]

||Now.||

[obsidian coyote]

people already told me

[ruby hull]

W people

[ruby hull]

People that hate fun

[ruby hull]

Literal ||Forgotten Crossroads|| is a spoiler 💀💀💀

[torn kettle]

wow

no way

[ruby hull]

EVEN ||DIRTMOUTH||

[torn kettle]

no way

[surreal steeple]

ok well

[torn kettle]

bro

||king's pass||

[surreal steeple]

I got that in >30min

😭

[ruby hull]

Same

[torn kettle]

you mean <30 mins

[thick wing]

aint no way thats also a spoiler

[surreal steeple]

30

[torn kettle]

well its still very early game

[ruby hull]

We get your point tho samuel

[surreal steeple]

yeah

I got it in the 1-2hr mark

iirc

😭

[ruby hull]

I mean if somebody tells somebody to ||get back through King's pass||

[torn kettle]

i mean probably same second playthrough

[ruby hull]

But other than that I don't get why

[torn kettle]

first playthrough i beat ||false knight|| and then never touched the game in like 2 years

[thick wing]

i mean makes sense but the location isnt a spoiler 😭

[lone egret]

Where are some of the ||dream bosses that give essence||

[ruby hull]

Yeah but in the context is

[ruby hull]

Jungle's Temple

[thick wing]

all are near where u beat them except the dung one

[ruby hull]

LOL DUNG IS NO SPOILER

[ruby hull]

||he is too yk||

[surreal steeple]

I remember I had hk on switch for 6 yrs and just never knew

😭

[thick wing]

going from the other way is soo much easier tho 😭

[surreal steeple]

probably played and barely went through a bit of the start before forgetting abt it

[ruby hull]

Bro haha, I barely got into ||Greenpath|| and abandoned the game for the next 7 months

[ruby hull]

You could literally be an og

[torn kettle]

right

[lone egret]

Ok I'll go to ||broekn vessel||

[torn kettle]

yeah its kind of easy

also go ||soul master|| or osmething

its easy too

[lone egret]

Is there one near|| hornet||

[torn kettle]

nope

not that i remember

[thick wing]

no cos not dead

[ruby hull]

Look she doesn't die

[torn kettle]

yeah

[lone egret]

Oh yea true

[thick wing]

the sequel is pretty much a hint lmao

[ruby hull]

Dead bodies have ghosts yk

[torn kettle]

Lmao

[ruby hull]

Lunatic Cultist doesn't have one unfortunately

[torn kettle]

i tihnk there wouldnt be a sequel if she was

[lone egret]

lol

[ruby hull]

||Quirrel|| sequel

[sly osprey]

Hey guys

Just began HK, it's fucking frustrating but enjoyable

[surreal steeple]

I COULD HAVE

😭😭

[thick wing]

u got the gist of it ur already doing great

[ruby hull]

||Get off the server and take quality time with the masterpiece||

[obsidian coyote]

nah why is || hive knight || kinda hard to BEAT ima actually crash out

[torn kettle]

do not get spoiled

[surreal steeple]

I agree

[torn kettle]

are you playing blind?

[thick wing]

what level is ur ||nail||

[ruby hull]

Better charms?

[surreal steeple]

I beat that thing first try

[ruby hull]

His name says it all

[obsidian coyote]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh || coiled ||

[torn kettle]

lol

[sly osprey]

Wanted to ask, how do you generally know where to go? Feel like I've rounded ||forgotten croassroads|| like 3 times with very little progress

[obsidian coyote]

wat charms SHOULD i use

[torn kettle]

you do not know where to go

[ruby hull]

Okay so

[surreal steeple]

you'll figure out where to go eventually

[thick wing]

then just try harder its fine

[sly osprey]

Only about 2 hours in a think, so not much progress

[torn kettle]

the game is based on exploration

[ruby hull]

||left, right, down||

[torn kettle]

you just go where you havent gone

[ruby hull]

Not so hard

[surreal steeple]

try to remember where things are

[obsidian coyote]

i no like u

[torn kettle]

get the ||map and wayward compass|| to know where you are better

and go where you havent explored

[thick wing]

bruh i took 10 tries its fine xD

[sly osprey]

I'm seeing a lot of inaccessible places, but don't know how to get them

[sly osprey]

Got those

[torn kettle]

you will eventually get more abilities and charms that will help you progress

[surreal steeple]

if they seem completely inaccessible probably don't do it yet

[obsidian coyote]

i havent tried 10 times yet its just so annoying to go back to the area

[sly osprey]

Think I'll make like 2 more rounds before I come and ask for actual help

[surreal steeple]

lol

sure

[thick wing]

i just skip that part it worked everytime somehow

[sly osprey]

Just wanted some tips for direction, cause I'm going the same way and basically reach all spots on the map that I can currently reach, I think

[obsidian coyote]

huh

[ruby hull]

Think of a way you can cut your way short

[obsidian coyote]

idk BRO

[torn kettle]

have you done the first boss?

[thick sentinel]

what ||charms|| should I use to fight ||Nightmare King Grimm||

[sly osprey]

Damn, everything is a spoiler☠️

[torn kettle]

yeah bro its for a good reason

atleast for you

[surreal steeple]

since u got the map, ||u should defo go check out the shop the map guy owns||

it'll definitely help

[sly osprey]

To be honest, I got spoiler about ||abilities being available||

[torn kettle]

how is that a spoiler wow

[torn kettle]

i mean that

well

[sly ivy]

||Increasing your nail range can help a lot.||

[surreal steeple]

I'm doing it just in case 😭

[thick wing]

||quick slash or strength + shaman and soul catcher||

[torn kettle]

map guy

[surreal steeple]

lmao

[sly osprey]

Everything is a spoiler, it's wild

Didn't know mentioning abilities was one

[torn kettle]

i think it is

[ruby hull]

That's the point

[torn kettle]

oh yeah

[ruby hull]

Cuz some people care about being spoiled

[torn kettle]

you get them as you progress more and more into the game

[thick wing]

AHHH

[torn kettle]

and they're kind of apart from eachother

not a lot but decently apart

so

you should definitely find the first boss

[sly osprey]

I'll be back in like an hour or two

[torn kettle]

you will fnid another area

[sly osprey]

Gonna eat them try again

I think I've had 2 boss battles, assuming boss battles are the ones with names

[torn kettle]

yeah i mean some are optional some make you progress

[ruby hull]

Bro don't, it's just you and the game, we don't exist

[torn kettle]

lmao i mean if he realy really really wants help

we just have to be very vague

[thick wing]

in the start yes u can say that

[sly osprey]

||the big bug lady that slams zig zig, and the big bug guy with the hammer. That one was fun||

[torn kettle]

just push in the right directioj

[torn kettle]

||the big bug with the mace|| is where you need to go

[sly osprey]

I just want a bit of direction, not a guide, you know? I'd like to enjoy the game and not completely frustrate myself

[torn kettle]

where did you go after beating that?

did you just go back where you came from

[thick wing]

oh then i think ur done with this area

[torn kettle]

pretty much

[sly osprey]

Think that's the guy I just beat. All the other places now either ||need abilities I know I don't have, or are covered with iron. Not sure if I can break that, don't want spoilers on that though||

[surreal steeple]

try going left

[torn kettle]

explore that area

[surreal steeple]

||in the mace guy place||

[torn kettle]

the area where you beat him

[sly osprey]

Bet

[surreal steeple]

also yall I finally beat ||failed champion||

:D

turns out ||nail art|| is op

[thick wing]

ayyyy lessgo

[sly osprey]

That's where I'm at rn. Gonna go for another round and see if anything else knew pops up cause I did explore a bit after beating him, but went back up to rest

[obsidian coyote]

nice i beat him

[thick wing]

HEH ||nail arts|| for him?? interesting

[cursive helm]

Is ||Quick Slash and Mark of Pride|| a good combo? For a ||Nail Build||

[sly osprey]

Wish me luck, gang

[ruby hull]

||Cyclone||

[torn kettle]

sye

yes

[thick wing]

got the charm?

[ruby hull]

suii

[surreal steeple]

||I spammed the cyclone one||

[obsidian coyote]

yuh

[thick wing]

hmm nice

[surreal steeple]

literally just ||3 of those cyclones and it drops him instantly||

[cursive helm]

Plan for my final charm set up being ||stalwart Shell, Steady Body, Mark of Pride, Quick Slash, and Nailmaster’s Glory ||

[thick wing]

get going to the ||white palace||

[torn kettle]

wow

i need to try that

[surreal steeple]

so I only needed to do that 3 times

[obsidian coyote]

WAT IS THAT

[surreal steeple]

and dodging is so easy

[torn kettle]

how much progress you got into the game

and ill tell you

[lone egret]

Why can't I do ||lost kin|| wtf I keep trying to heal but I can't

[thick wing]

oh wait u found the ||abyss|| or no?

[obsidian coyote]

i have

[obsidian coyote]

uhh like 74 percent

[thick wing]

remeber that white guy infront of the ||stag||

[obsidian coyote]

nope

yes

[thick wing]

just explore that area more then

[obsidian coyote]

no i remember him now

[surreal steeple]

is there a way to ||farm dream thingys||

[thick wing]

just ||dream nail him after getting 1800 essence||

[obsidian coyote]

can i || dream nail him || now??

[obsidian coyote]

oh

[torn kettle]

how much ||essence|| do you have

[obsidian coyote]

1500

[torn kettle]

get 1800

[thick wing]

u got ||1800 essence?||

[torn kettle]

and go to the ||seer||

to ||awake your dream nail||

then ||dream nail|| him

[sly osprey]

GUYS, I FOUND SOMETHING

AND I KNOW WHAT IT UNLOCKS

[obsidian coyote]

yup okay

[sly osprey]

I think

[surreal steeple]

yipeeeeeeeee

[torn kettle]

yep

you're in the right direction

just remembre explore till your tired

[surreal steeple]

is there a way to ||farm dream thingys||

||dream essence||

yes that

[thick wing]

uh no

unless u need less than 10

[surreal steeple]

aw

[sly osprey]

Ok, my logic is ||there was this one dude that closed up when you got close, so I assumed you need a dashing attack. I got a ranged one, so I assume I knock his ass out the way and new place unlocked||

[surreal steeple]

I legit need less than 10

I need 9

😭

[torn kettle]

yep

[sly osprey]

Wish me luck

[thick wing]

uh u can randomly get it from killing enemies but probabilty is low

[surreal steeple]

;-;

I dont wanna kill spirits

[amber belfry]

Is this good enough for ||p5||?
||(I have the first level of lifeblood (3) as well)||

[thick wing]

its like 1 in 40 smth idk

[surreal steeple]

geo farming it is

xd

[thick wing]

it should be good enough ig?

[torn kettle]

how do i send a gif as spiler

[obsidian coyote]

OH YEH how do i get to that || mask shard ||

that wall is not breakable

[thick wing]

get the ||big fat bee to hit that wall||

[obsidian coyote]

oh i murked them all

[midnight oyster]

Better look for a bench

[thick wing]

||bench or rejoin||

[obsidian coyote]

ill get it later

[surreal steeple]

xd

[thick wing]

||mask shards are important but ur wish||

[obsidian coyote]

ik

but im TO LAZY

[thick wing]

fair

[torn kettle]

im pretty sure thats mroe than enough

[thick wing]

it depends if he did all in one go or not

anyone can beat on ||radiant|| after multiple tries

[lone egret]

Why can't I do ||lost kin|| what

I'm actually terrible

[thick wing]

he has lot of hp

gotta be patient

[lone egret]

His little minions mess me up

[thick wing]

hmm ||dung defender might be useful||

[obsidian coyote]

so u know how theres a key called || elegant key || where is the location of the door it unlokcs

[lone egret]

I killed him a long time ago

[thick wing]

in ||soul sanctum or near by in city of tears i can look it up if u want||

[thick wing]

wha

[potent river]

srry everybody but does anyone have any tip for defeating the manti lords?? I´m new at the game

[lone egret]

Learn attack pattern and when to heal

[obsidian coyote]

oh ok thx

[lone egret]

I'm deleting this game why the fuck can't I do ||lost kin||😭😭

[astral rampart]

Alright, I'm almost done with ||white palace|| but the part with ||the pop out spikes after the really fast saw pogo jump|| is getting me.

[winter dove]

can anyone help me my controller randomly cuts out and it still works just not for the game

[lament quarry]

We’re is ||marmoo||

Pls

[lone egret]

I killed ||lost kiln||

ytayyayaayyy

Yayyy

[sly osprey]

Should I buy everything I see?

[lone egret]

???

What do I do with this

[obsidian coyote]

strategy for || soul tryant || ???

[vague fern]

|| put 3k geo in and you get smt cool ||

[winter dove]

||marmoo is behind the queens station stag||

[lament quarry]

K

[lone egret]

Ok that'll take a bit

||pop||?????

Is that a spoiler???

[vague fern]

yeah

it stands for something late game

[lone egret]

Do I have to have ||3k geo for the popup to appear||

[lone egret]

oh

[vague fern]

nah

maybe its not the place im thinking of

if theres no popup to donate || geo || then its irrelevant

[lone egret]

There's another place where you can but I forget where it is

[obsidian coyote]

strategy to beat ||soul tyrant||???

[hidden apex]

it looks like thats where u got ||monarch wings||

[lone egret]

So I googled it to see where the ||geo statue|| was and it said to donate ||3k for a vessel fragment|| which is dumb I think

[hidden apex]

yeh its not worth unless u want 100% completion

[vague fern]

3k is nothing if you know how to farm

[obsidian coyote]

strategy to beat|| soul tyrant||???

he so annoying

[hidden apex]

||what charms and upgrades do u have?||

[obsidian coyote]

1 sec

[obsidian coyote]

i have || coiled nail || || the 3 base spells || || double jump wall jump dash shadedash ||

[hidden apex]

||u can change ur charm build firstly, heavy blow doesnt do much, i would reccommend shaman stone and spell twister or fragile strength + quickslash as i believe it wont break in a dream||

[obsidian coyote]

|| heavy blow and equipped || btw || its quick slash ||

[hidden apex]

no thats ||heavy blow ||equipped rn

[obsidian coyote]

no i dont believe so

oh

shit

ur right

[astral rampart]

I almost got past the part I'm stuck at 😭 I choked and hit spikes

[hidden apex]

btw do u have ||upgraded spells?||

[obsidian coyote]

i thought i equipped || quick slash ||

[obsidian coyote]

nah

NO i was so close to beating it i didnt even change charms

[hidden apex]

it would be good to find them if ur struggling

[hidden apex]

is there any particular attack u struggle with?

[dark maple]

how do I get outside of ||city of tears||

[obsidian coyote]

no not really its all of them but just now i got it down to second phase so with the right charms i can beat it

wat should i set as the last charm?

[cursive helm]

I hate this dumb ||Collector|| Boss fight his attacks are so annoying

[humble marsh]

any tips for || nailsage sly ||?

[cursive helm]

||Oh yeah let’s just make him SPAM THIS ATTACK THAT YOU CANT STOP AND YOU CANT HIT HIM DURING IT!||

On top of he doesn’t give any soul when you hit it, so congrats your only healing are the ||Cruddy annoying enemies that die in one hit he throws at you when he spams that attack||

[hidden apex]

||fragile heart||

[dark maple]

how do I get outside of ||city of tears||

[obsidian coyote]

oh yeh and u gave me a || spell || buildi lowk prefer nail so ima make me a a nail buidl

[dreamy copper]

first of all why would u wanna leave its the best area in the game and second theres a ||stag station|| all the way up and to the left if u havent made it to the right side of ||city of tears|| yet

[humble marsh]

it is nonsense rng based, yes, but not that tough ig
just walk underneath him, get quick hits, destroy the jars as soon as they appear

[cursive helm]

I can’t walk under him

He hits me if i do that

[humble marsh]

when he jumps

[cursive helm]

Ik

Ive tried that

[cursive helm]

Ive also tried ||DASHING|| under him and i still take damage

[dark maple]

||city of tears|| so ass bro I hate those fuckass soul duds

[hidden apex]

maybe try standing still

[cursive helm]

It literally does not matter even if he’s jumping i still get hit

[humble marsh]

then ig you need timing and positioning as these strategies always work for me

[dreamy copper]

oh. the rest of ||city of tears|| and ||soul sanctum|| are two VERY different things. i dont think anyone likes ||soul sanctum||

[calm sleet]

Any tips for fighting ||broken vessel||

[humble marsh]

|| spam ddark or shade soul ||

[fading shale]

use ||defenders crest||

[cursive helm]

Could also just get ||Shade Dash|| to negate the problem entirely

[humble marsh]

yes

[cursive helm]

Only thing I cant complain about him

[hidden apex]

||my general tip would be to wait until he finishes an attack combo before u punish it, if theres any specific attacks u r struggling on i can tell u the way i punish it||

[cursive helm]

Is that he keeps my ||Shade|| OUTSIDE of his dumb arena

[dreamy copper]

thats for ||lost kin||

[fading shale]

wdym

[calm sleet]

Yeah I don’t have either somehow so ima go get those

[dark maple]

is the ||soul sacntum|| required

[cursive helm]

Kinda?

[fading shale]

its to kill the ||infected balloons|| so you can heal

[hidden apex]

i would recommend to explore it

[cursive helm]

Keyword Kinda

[dreamy copper]

||defenders crest|| is only really useful against ||lost kin|| cuz the balloon guys dont hit u

[cursive helm]

you need it to access certain areas

Or atleast routes

[humble marsh]

he's just too fast, I don't get time to react
he has such a || long nail || and he barely telegraphs
the attack I'm mostly struggling with is || cyclone slash ||

[humble marsh]

no

[dreamy copper]

no its not required but I would recommend going through it bc u get smth after beating the boss there. but if u dont wanna then go to the bench right next to ||cornifer|| and then go up and left and then keep going up and eventually you'll the find ||city storerooms stag station||

[hidden apex]

||i usually just run away from that attack, and climb up the wall, sometimes ddark||

[dark maple]

that bench costs geo and I have no geo

[covert thorn]

Anybody here need help with anything

[cursive helm]

Theres another bench

||In the stag station||

[hidden apex]

his telegraphs are fast but u can predict what hes about to do

[dark maple]

is there any way to get outside other than the station

[hidden apex]

go through ||sanctum||

[dark maple]

[humble marsh]

alright, thanks!

[cursive helm]

Not really

[obsidian coyote]

WAT bro || soul tryant || has soo much hp it feels like

[cursive helm]

There’s a few

[humble marsh]

you don't need to fight him tho

[cursive helm]

But most lead to areas that themselves need more stuff than you have to leave

[obsidian coyote]

im fighting him

[humble marsh]

for || essence ||?

or in || pantheons ||?

[dreamy copper]

I would recommend just going through ||sanctum|| and beating the boss cuz what u get from it is basically necessary to complete the game and ur gonna have to do it sooner or later

[obsidian coyote]

yes

[humble marsh]

|| lost kin, failed champion, warrior dreams are far easier options ||

[obsidian coyote]

i did || lost kin || wheres || failed champion ||

[humble marsh]

near || false knight ||

[dreamy copper]

but if u haven't seen it yet, there's a ||nailsmith|| that u can ||upgrade ur nail|| from if u go down and all the way left in the ||city of tears||

[dark maple]

end me atp

[hidden apex]

||above where u do false knight behind a breakable wall||

[humble marsh]

climb up, there's a breakable wall

[obsidian coyote]

wheres that i forgot

[dark maple]

alr got ||nail upgrade||

[humble marsh]

near || crossroads stag ||

[cursive helm]

I suggest just getting geo to open the ||Stag station||

[obsidian coyote]

ok

OHHH

that guy

[cursive helm]

Since its by the far the easiest way to come and go from ||City of tears|| for now

[hidden apex]

wait i thought u didnt have ||geo||

[dark maple]

I got that earlier and that wasted all my geo

can somebody come into #sk-help I need #sk-help

[cursive helm]

Kill enemies for ||Geo||

[dark maple]

why are we spoilering||geo||

[obsidian coyote]

w i accidently just got an upgraded || spell ||

[hidden apex]

geo

oh its not a spoiler

[covert thorn]

hatamas geo

[obsidian coyote]

cause u learn about it like in the first 2 seconds of game play

[hidden apex]

thats fair, but ||crawlid|| is a spoiler

[obsidian coyote]

tf is that

[hidden apex]

the first enemy

[covert thorn]

what about nail

[obsidian coyote]

oh that the name

[covert thorn]

what about knight

Is "the Hollow Knight" a spoiler

ok

[obsidian coyote]

the hollow knight

ig not

[hidden apex]

hollow knight isnt a spoiler cuz its the name of the game

[covert thorn]

yeah but it's ||the final boss||

[obsidian coyote]

yuh

[dreamy copper]

istg 90% of my runs in ||p5|| end with ||markoth|| and not ||abs rad||

[winter dove]

can anyone help me my controller cuts out every bit then cuts back in and it only happens with hk

[covert thorn]

Spam ||dash slash||

[covert thorn]

It's either ||Nailmaster's Glory with Dash Slash or Shaman Stone with Shade Soul and Abyss Shriek||

[covert thorn]

I use both

[hidden apex]

||save soul for phase 2||

[covert thorn]

What console r u playing

[winter dove]

im not using console im using a pc with a xbox controller

[covert thorn]

Nvm I can't help u sorry, ask sum1 else cuz I use Switch

[dreamy copper]

cant get ||soul|| to ||cast shade soul and shriek|| if the mf keeps auto dodging

[elfin ferry]

best ||charms|| to use for ||nkg||?

[covert thorn]

If both options are dead, just stall until he spins his ||shield|| around. Wait until it cycles twice, then ||dash|| in and pogo until the thing comes back circling in

[dreamy copper]

i mean yeah technically i could do that but the fight would last like 30 mins

[covert thorn]

That's why you save ||soul|| for the second phase because he gets two of them and stalling becomes useless

Then it'll go by quicker

[vague fern]

|| strength qslash shaman nmg sbody || or smt like that

[covert thorn]

Just kill him asap

[vague fern]

charms arent allat on him

[covert thorn]

||Nailmaster's Glory and Shaman Stone|| is all I need tbh

[dreamy copper]

only real ones use ||grimmmchild||

[covert thorn]

As to why I use ||Nailmaster's Glory,|| it's because the dude teleports so much you can only get one or two hits on him per teleport

[surreal steeple]

how much is ||unbreakable heart charm||

[vague fern]

12k

for upgrade

[surreal steeple]

bleH

ok thx

[vague fern]

you can charge one up without it on every single attack but if it helps for you then use it

[covert thorn]

True, you actually don't need it now that I realize it

[surreal steeple]

still good tho if u forget to charge lol

[hearty plinth]

h0w do i do this section

[covert thorn]

||Dash|| then ||jump||

[elfin ferry]

||colluseum of fools second trial is the most effective geo grind||

[vague fern]

its not

but its good

[hearty plinth]

YES I DDI TI

GNG ||I MIGHT BE FINISHING POP||

[vague fern]

gl

[covert thorn]

gl

[hearty plinth]

FINAL SECTION

[covert thorn]

Hope you die

👍

[obsidian coyote]

THATS MEAN

[covert thorn]

😈

[surreal steeple]

xd

[hearty plinth]

nah i got ||hiveblood||

also there is a thing giving me lots of souls

a statue

[obsidian coyote]

nice

[surreal steeple]

is ||quick cast any different compared to normal focus/cast other than holding focus/cast = heal?||

[vague fern]

yeah

[covert thorn]

You genuinely don't need ||Hiveblood|| for ||PoP|| but if it's ||White Palace,|| then yes

[surreal steeple]

what's the difference>?

[vague fern]

basically, || quick cast is only spells (so it cant heal), and it activates the spell when you press the button. focus/cast is heal AND spell, but it activates when you release the keybind (making it more delayed). ideally you use spells as quick cast and heal as a separate bind ||

but its not a huge deal

[surreal steeple]

ic

[obsidian coyote]

it does the ||spel|| even if u hold it doqn

[vague fern]

personally, my || quick cast || is a really easy button to press, and heal is some random button i lowk dont even remember

[surreal steeple]

big enough difference for me lol

[surreal steeple]

I've got ||quick cast as right click|| and ||focus/cast on R|| rn

xd

[vague fern]

yeah i got the same basically

cant remember what heal is but its some keyboard button

[surreal steeple]

I cant get myself to use only keyboard

;-;

[vague fern]

theres no benefit really to controller vs kb vs kbm

[normal ibex]

Heal is A

On default

[surreal steeple]

I have wasd

for moving

[vague fern]

same here

[normal ibex]

You have to check your keybinds then cuz I don’t 😭

Know

Forgot to say know-

[surreal steeple]

arrow keys....

😭😭

how does one play with arrow keys

[normal ibex]

Uhhhh

I got used to it

Eventually I was able to git guy

Gif

Guy

Bud

[surreal steeple]

ok yeah that's fair

xd

[normal ibex]

AUTOCORRECT I WAS SAYING GIT GUD

[surreal steeple]

xdd

[hearty plinth]

i cant..

[surreal steeple]

I couldnt get myself to get used to arrow keys

[hearty plinth]

i cant beat it guys

the last section

[obsidian coyote]

sad

[hearty plinth]

yeah

[normal ibex]

Last section of what?

What’s going onnnn

[surreal steeple]

xd

[hearty plinth]

||path of pain||

[covert thorn]

Good

[normal ibex]

Ohhhh I looked at a vid for all of ||pop|| just to know how to do that part, and got it right after

It was the wr

[obsidian coyote]

so im vsing || false knight dream version || ITS SO HARD

[covert thorn]

Use ||Wayward Compass||

[normal ibex]

It’s so fast

[hearty plinth]

.

[normal ibex]

Once you get used to it it’s ez

[hearty plinth]

spam m1

aka the hit

[obsidian coyote]

tryna but its attacks are too lrage and annoying

and also the falling balls

[hearty plinth]

guys help me do the last section

[covert thorn]

Use ||dreamnail|| after every phase and keep stunlocking him by hitting his armor

[obsidian coyote]

wym while his face is vissible?

ohh

[covert thorn]

Uhhhhh ||replace Hiveblood with Shaman Stone||

[desert salmon]

Hey guys

[covert thorn]

67

[obsidian coyote]

but that wont deal damage to him tho?

[desert salmon]

I just beat ||mantis lords|| what do I do now?

And when ca I upgrade my ||nail?||

[covert thorn]

no. Hitting his armor instead of his face just stunlocks him, it doesn't do damage

[obsidian coyote]

wait u want me to || dream nail || his armour

[covert thorn]

Yeah and hit it with ur nail too so he stays stunlocked

[desert salmon]

Guys any help 😭

[covert thorn]

That way, u have full health every phase

[obsidian coyote]

ohh iget it

[covert thorn]

Go thru the door to ||Deepnest||

[obsidian coyote]

|| dreamnail 2x then nail 1 time then heall repeat ||

[covert thorn]

U can ||dreamnail|| for a maximum of 3

Then hit him

[obsidian coyote]

so i do 2 time heal smack smack smack smack

[desert salmon]

Where can I upgrade my nail and what charms should I buy or use?

[covert thorn]

How tf is ||charms|| not a spoiler

[obsidian coyote]

cause u get them at the start

of the game

[desert salmon]

Should I go buy the ||wayward compass||

[obsidian coyote]

yes

[sour briar]

tips on beating ||mantis lords||

[covert thorn]

Also did u get the ||charm|| reward for beating ||the mantis lords||

I forgor what its called

[desert salmon]

||yes||

[covert thorn]

yes is not a spoiler bro

[desert salmon]

You never know

[obsidian coyote]

YES

[covert thorn]

meow

[humble marsh]

there's a super easy cheese tech

[covert thorn]

I already told him I think

[obsidian coyote]

which is

[obsidian coyote]

u did ?

[covert thorn]

It's the ||dreamnail|| after every phase

[desert salmon]

I currently have the ||thorns one||, ||soul catcher|| and the ||mantis lords one||

[obsidian coyote]

oh yeh that

[desert salmon]

And 4 ||notches||

[covert thorn]

Wait what r u up against

[humble marsh]

|| climb on one wall and just hold crystal dash. use defenders crest, grimm child, glowing womb, weaversong ||

[desert salmon]

Ima get ||wayward compass|| tho

[obsidian coyote]

i litterally only have 1 of those charms maybe 2 at MOST

[desert salmon]

So ima use the ||mantis lords charm|| and ||wayward compass||

[humble marsh]

which one do you have?

[obsidian coyote]

|| defenders crest || i do have the || c dash also ||

[humble marsh]

get the other ones if you can

[obsidian coyote]

why do i need the others

[humble marsh]

they constantly damage him so you don't need to attack
you can just hide in the ceiling

[livid canyon]

Do u have all ||vessel fragment|| ?

[obsidian coyote]

yeh || defenders crest does that ||

[obsidian coyote]

the soul ones right

[livid canyon]

Yep

[humble marsh]

|| defenders crest won't reach him ||

[obsidian coyote]

yus

[obsidian coyote]

dam

[obsidian coyote]

why?

[livid canyon]

||get full soul before the fight, equip shaman stone and jus spam shade soul. Once he is staggered, do the inf soul dream nail thing. Repeat the process till u beat failed champion||

[obsidian coyote]

oh ok

[obsidian coyote]

|| shaman stone and soul catcher and wat else ||??

[covert thorn]

@obsidian coyote use ||fragile strength from leg eater or Shaman Stone to melt down each phase asap cuz the longer you deal with him, the longer he becomes a nuisance, then use the dreamnail trick I told u||

||fragile strength can't break in dream bosses||

[obsidian coyote]

i think this is the build

[livid canyon]

||shame stone and soul catcher r the important charms, the rest r upto ur wish||

[covert thorn]

Yeah then ur good

[livid canyon]

Gud build 👍

[obsidian coyote]

thx

[livid canyon]

||nail upgrade 2 or 3 might help if necessary||

[obsidian coyote]

i have || coiled ||

[covert thorn]

Yeah then ur good, just fight the big boy already

[obsidian coyote]

should i spam my upgraded one

[covert thorn]

SPOIL THE IMAGE DUMBASS

😭

[obsidian coyote]

it is spoilered?

[covert thorn]

Oh

For some reason it didn't show for me

Mb

Sorry for calling u a dumbass

Ur not a dumbass

Ur a smartass

We're all smartasses

:3

[junior lily]

Guys uh wheres the map giver for || Royal waterways ||

[covert thorn]

Far left

[junior lily]

Smart dumbass

[livid canyon]

Far left

[covert thorn]

Locked behind a gauntlet

[junior lily]

So are we smart or dunas

[covert thorn]

Both

[junior lily]

[livid canyon]

We're smrt 🧠

Smrt as hail.

[obsidian coyote]

smartest dumbass

[covert thorn]

It's weird how humans are smart enough to do stupid shit like 🪑ing themselves

[empty forge]

Im both smarter and dumber than you
Never estimate me

[obsidian coyote]

wats the buff on || fragile stregnth ||

[primal ibex]

x1.5

[covert thorn]

I think 25% or 50%

[obsidian coyote]

cool

[junior lily]

So left? Right

[livid canyon]

Yep

[primal ibex]

So +50%

[covert thorn]

Left yes, right no

[livid canyon]

HARD LEFT

[hearty plinth]

i mastered the spikes

of the last section

[sly osprey]

Bro I'm actually gonna delete this game

[covert thorn]

Guys rate my build for ||P5||
||Strength, Shaman Stone, Quickslash, Nailmaster's Glory, Steady Body, and Fury of the Fallen||

[sly osprey]

If I lose all my coins to her, I'm finished😭

[livid canyon]

First time?

[covert thorn]

No, not my first time

[sly osprey]

Why are respawns so goddamn sparse in this game?🫩

[covert thorn]

:)

[hearty plinth]

use ||heart insteand of fury of the fallen||

[livid canyon]

||explains why fury||

[covert thorn]

Because the 75% damage boost to melt bosses

Also did u know my build is actually ||overcharmed||

[livid canyon]

Naur.

I haven't touched the game in like 2 weeks and all my skills are gone now

Lost all ma knowledge too

[covert thorn]

I actually bench pressed ||P5|| almost every day for a full year straight and came to the conclusion with this build

[livid canyon]

Is that a flex 👀

[covert thorn]

Eh

Kind of

Ok maybe it is sorry

[livid canyon]

😔

[covert thorn]

But recently, I've been busy playing Silksong so I kinda stopped my routine

[livid canyon]

||Btw, does white defender get buffed if I beat him in the 'normal world'||

[livid canyon]

I haven't gotten it yet. Broke rn.

[covert thorn]

Wdym normal world

Outside the ||dream realm||?

[livid canyon]

Yeah.

Didn't get the right word earlier

[covert thorn]

How do u fight ||dung defender|| again after u beat him?

Isn't it only ||white defender||

[livid canyon]

Yea, I was talking bout white

[covert thorn]

Sure, ||white defender|| gets stronger every time u defeat him if that's what you're talking about

[livid canyon]

Does that apply to ||God home too||

[covert thorn]

No

[livid canyon]

Aight thx

[covert thorn]

But you can only beat him a limited amount of times

[livid canyon]

Oh

||I need like 2000 smthn essence for the last seer thing||

So I have to fight him

[covert thorn]

Only beat him once to get the ||essence||

[livid canyon]

K

[covert thorn]

The rest is just if you feel like it or for lore reasons

[livid canyon]

Does re beating him give percentage?

[covert thorn]

There's another boss that does exactly the same thing but not for a lore reason

[covert thorn]

No

Only once yes

[livid canyon]

||Nkg?||

[covert thorn]

Either you ||banish|| him or beat him, you still get the percentage I think

As long as bros dead is all that matters

[livid canyon]

Mm k. I need like 3 more percent for 112

[covert thorn]

You should use a checklist

Or use a checklist viable map on the internet

[livid canyon]

I was thinking of getting 112 after ||p4 and PoP||

[olive plinth]

uhh whats the optimal stelsol run

[covert thorn]

||PoP|| doesn't count

[livid canyon]

Oh.

[merry blade]

what's the best geo farm in hollow knight

besides the arena

[livid canyon]

What about ||grey Prince zote||. Does he count for percentage?

[olive plinth]

lem

yes

[covert thorn]

I genuinely did not do ||Steel Soul|| as intended and just cheated by using a glitch halfway thru😭

[olive plinth]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[livid canyon]

||Great hoppers in kingdom's edge maybe||

[olive plinth]

can u help me through it

cus i die to random stuff

[covert thorn]

Killing ||husk guards|| near ||King's Station with the one geo charm from Leg Eater||

[covert thorn]

Yes but only once

[olive plinth]

but golden statue epic

do it 10 times

[livid canyon]

So that's 2 percent.. where could that last one be.

[covert thorn]

So once you get ||dream gate||, look online for an invincibility glitch, then ur done

[obsidian coyote]

i did it

[olive plinth]

i wanna do it legit tho

[vague fern]

glitchless and including the arena, its still || hoppers in kedge ||

[livid canyon]

Congra-jdkowhwhdh-lations

[covert thorn]

Nice now go thru hell once and back again but even worse

[obsidian coyote]

IK WHERE IM GOING

[vague fern]

|| gpz is not a % ||

[livid canyon]

Oh. So I need 2 percent then.

[merry blade]

which part?

[junior lily]

The || yellow thing with a lock in Royal waterways is unlocked with a simple key right ||

[covert thorn]

Rlly? I thought he was

[vague fern]

charm spoiler || https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2EihyH1Jjg ||

[livid canyon]

Ye

[vague fern]

you cant get locked out of 112%, and you can get locked out of him

[covert thorn]

Oh makes sense

[hearty plinth]

ill kill you white king

pale lady

[merry blade]

alright thank you!

[junior lily]

This or || colesuem 2nd || which is faster

[covert thorn]

What

[vague fern]

this is a good amount faster

like 10k/h extra or smt

[covert thorn]

||colosseum||

[hearty plinth]

I DID IT

I DID ||POP||

[obsidian coyote]

nice

[vague fern]

ggs

[covert thorn]

Aw dang

[livid canyon]

I'm totally not jealous 😔

[covert thorn]

:(

[hearty plinth]

IM PROO

RAHH

[vague fern]

if you're doing 3 minute c2s id love to know how

[hearty plinth]

WAIT FOR ME ABS ||RADIANCE||

I AM ||PURE VESSEL||

[livid canyon]

Don't put salt on ma wound ,man 😔

[hearty plinth]

guys am i pro now

[obsidian coyote]

in the || white palace || wat do i do?

[vague fern]

parkour

[obsidian coyote]

cool

[covert thorn]

Until you can bench press ||P5|| daily like me, yes

[hearty plinth]

no

[obsidian coyote]

tho i am confused on where to go

nvm

i found somthing

[hearty plinth]

wait i cant go back to ||pop||

[covert thorn]

Just go somewhere

[covert thorn]

Yeah unless u start a new save

[vague fern]

mods can let you but yeah

[hearty plinth]

so uh

i cant have any fun now?

i want platforming

[livid canyon]

The part after the lever is just too hard for me.

[obsidian coyote]

but wat smy goal

[hearty plinth]

tbh get 112% then do it

js like me

[livid canyon]

Yeah, prob.

[junior lily]

Yo what the hell is this

[vague fern]

they make it harder

[junior lily]

Wdym

[covert thorn]

Just press begin, everything there makes it harder

[shut sparrow]

helo lune

[vague fern]

|| the pantheon is a boss rush / gauntlet where you fight bosses one after another. the bindings restrict yourself to make it harder ||

[hearty plinth]

the ultimate hell

[junior lily]

What do I get from it

[vague fern]

💀

[vague fern]

oh hi ||n||onsenf i got a question for you

[covert thorn]

Everything there is a restriction of some kind to what ||binding|| it is

[shut sparrow]

you almost spoiled people 😠

[shut sparrow]

yes

[vague fern]

mb mb

yk that || nkg || healing windows video you got

[junior lily]

What's the reward

[shut sparrow]

mhm

[covert thorn]

Nothing but an optional collectible for your ||hunter's journal||

[junior lily]

Bruh

[covert thorn]

Wait

No I'm wrong mb

[shut sparrow]

don't make me have to redo it please

[vague fern]

greyfire is making / has made a full || p5ab || boss guide to decent detail and when he asked me to look over some of my better bosses i noticed it didnt really cover the healing windows

[junior lily]

Why do I get to pick the bindings what if I pick nail

[vague fern]

and i told him that you have a really good video on it and he should add it

but wanted to check with you that its fine to do so beforehand

[hearty plinth]

you dont use ||nail arts||

[vague fern]

|| nail binding || just means reduced nail damage

[covert thorn]

@junior lily You actually get ||lifeblood|| to make the next ||pantheon|| easier

[drifting plaza]

Hello

[junior lily]

What if I don't p8ck ajy binding

[vague fern]

then you just do it normally

its recommended to do them without any || bindings || first, then you can go back and add them

[shut sparrow]

it's not in the ||pantheon but in dirtmouth and I was moving too fast on pillars as well as starting to heal a bit late. It's definitely not perfect. If it doesn't matter and gets the job done feel free to use it but if I find time tomorrow or the coming days I could make a better one||

[covert thorn]

You literally don't need to do bindings at all cuz the ||lifeblood|| reward for doing bindings barely makes the game easier

[shut sparrow]

also you can always dm or ping me for stuff like this if you want

[vague fern]

if you'd like to make a better one then thats great but yeah its really good already

i'll let him know, thank you

[hearty plinth]

...why team cherry..

[covert thorn]

yay death

[hearty plinth]

...

[shut sparrow]

lune when is ||anyrad|| time

[covert thorn]

we love it when creators ||kill our favorite characters||

[shut sparrow]

was just doing ||ascended|| attempts

[sly osprey]

I GOT MY COINS BACK

[covert thorn]

NOW SPEND THEM ALL

!!!!!

[hearty plinth]

i dont..

[sly osprey]

Bro, that bitch had me so heated

She's so good

At least I found a ||stag nearby, so I can comeback and try and beat her later||

[covert thorn]

that's the beauty of hollow knight whether u like it or not

[sly osprey]

Thought I would lose all my coins

[vague fern]

and since them my mouse broke (under warranty) so im just waiting for a replacement to finish it off

[covert thorn]

😊👍

[hearty plinth]

its not

[covert thorn]

It's okay man

[obsidian coyote]

im so happy i equipped || hive blood || before coming here cause i have to so much parkour not as hard as other things tho ...

[covert thorn]

You'll get over it

[hearty plinth]

i'd rather ||do path of pain 5 times than seeig them dead||

[shut sparrow]

||lol gg. Happened to me as well. But it was after like 13. Then I took a few months break so I was almost back at 0 and it took me 30h total ||

[vague fern]

gl on asc though, i heard its such a big jump

[covert thorn]

You should use ||grubsong|| to last even longer

[shut sparrow]

oh no

[obsidian coyote]

they ... died?

[obsidian coyote]

neh cause i have inf health so last inf

[hearty plinth]

wish they wouldnt

[covert thorn]

No, they're alive

[obsidian coyote]

heh

[shut sparrow]

it doesn't seem like it so far lol. I'm doing better on ||ascended than attuned atm||

[covert thorn]

Don't listen to what he said

[hearty plinth]

you must be careful, if you get hit 2 times in a row u die

[vague fern]

while waiting for it to come i installed gd, got into some more 04r bosses and did this

[covert thorn]

There's always rainbows and sunshine everywhere in Hollow Knight

[obsidian coyote]

every hit i take tps me to safe spot

[covert thorn]

(the sun especially is a good thing)

[shut sparrow]

why 😭

[vague fern]

lowk fun

[shut sparrow]

you are genuinely too good at this game

[queen thunder]

yo guys any tips on ||pure vessel||?

[covert thorn]

Jump after every 2 seconds

[hearty plinth]

the flying bots may not

[vague fern]

really cool tip, if you dont hit him during the stagger, DO NOT stand in the middle of the arena

[queen thunder]

why

[obsidian coyote]

?

[vague fern]

he can telefrag you, its bugged

[obsidian coyote]

oh those

meh

[vague fern]

also if you || shriek || while facing to the right, then you can do it and not activate his counter/parry

[shut sparrow]

||jump for every attack (but not too high), save your shade cloak for soul daggers or in case you get parried. That means don't dash for any other basic attack. ||

[covert thorn]

Also spam ||ddark|| if ur ||shade dash|| isn't available

[swift rivet]

I'm genuinely struggling against ||2x Oblobble.||

[shut sparrow]

hmm never seen that

[vague fern]

neither, but i found out about it recently

[queen thunder]

why not jump too high

[vague fern]

and the || shriek || thing i found out yesterday from suscat

[queen thunder]

?

[covert thorn]

Cuz bro might teleport above

[queen thunder]

holy fuh he can do that?

or wait the thing when he slams

right

[shut sparrow]

||if you jump too high (meaning full jump + wings) you will often not land in time to react to the next attack||

[covert thorn]

Uhhh focus on one first

Cuz if u handle both, the other one regenerates some health after the other dies

[swift rivet]

Oh

[covert thorn]

And spam ||dash slash|| after every shooting

[shut sparrow]

||simply only jump as high as necessary to then follow up with a pogo (for lunge and triple slash), dash (for daggers) or wings if you want (for soul pillars)||

[covert thorn]

If u have it

[shut sparrow]

what

oh man it's 7am

[vague fern]

if you || shriek || while facing to the right, it pulls the target to you, and when you || shriek || while facing to the left, it pushes them away

and for some reason, while facing to the right it wont trigger his counter

[hearty plinth]

guys which % of players have 112

[shut sparrow]

oh that yeah

it's quite useful

[junior lily]

Where's this at

[vague fern]

very weird though

[shut sparrow]

I didn't know that

[vague fern]

around 6.5% if we go off of steam

[hearty plinth]

yay

im one of em

[cold gust]

any tips for ||pantheon 5|| i got to ||pure vessel|| on my third ever attempt and then never played again

[queen thunder]

also, any tips on the build for ||pure vessel||

[vague fern]

if you really struggle, then unlock the || lifeblood || at benches. but beyond that its boss specific help

[vague fern]

thats pretty good

[junior lily]

Where's it at

[shut sparrow]

||I'd assume because it counts the attack as an attack "from the right" because it pushes inwards, while pv is parrying to the left which of course doesn't block attacks from the right||

[covert thorn]

You don't need ||Mark of Pride and Soul Catcher||

[cold gust]

i was doing that but got bored of doing it

[queen thunder]

||soul catcher for dd||

[vague fern]

must be, its probably just an inherent bug that led to it

[cold gust]

oops i forgot to say i died to ||pure vessel||

[covert thorn]

Use ||Spell Twister|| instead

[shut sparrow]

||are you going for pantheon 4?||

[vague fern]

|| kingdoms edge ||

[shut sparrow]

||soul catcher is very good. Often better than twister||

[queen thunder]

im js training ||pvessel|| after i got whooped on him

had the best run and lost instantly

[covert thorn]

Oh, ok

[rancid dirge]

|| how do I unlock this in queens garden ||

[cold gust]

i was just asking for tips since i didnt really struggle i just wanna be more efficient

[queen thunder]

you gotta go around

go down

[rancid dirge]

Ty

[covert thorn]

I usually focus purely on offense, so I don't really know much about other charms, mb

[queen thunder]

also should i use ||quick slash ||or nah

[covert thorn]

What boss sorry?

[vague fern]

if im helping for him in general it'd be like 3000 or so words (speaking from experience)
the best thing to do is learn how to properly dodge/punish each attack, so if you want to know how for a specific attack or attacks i can do that

[vague fern]

yes

[queen thunder]

||pure vessel||

[cold gust]

||pure vessel||

[covert thorn]

Oh then no, use ||Nailmaster's Glory|| cuz he teleports

[vague fern]

use the build you will use for || pantheon ||, that way you stay consistent

[covert thorn]

If they teleport, use ||Nailmaster's Glory||

[hoary depot]

yo tf am I supposed to do against ||brothers Oro and Mato in p1||????

[queen thunder]

what should i add

[cold gust]

i only died to ||pure vessel|| since i had an adrenaline spike, i once beat ||pure vessel|| in ||HoG|| 7 times in a row without dying

[covert thorn]

They usually only attack one at a time so just stay out of range when one's attacking, then counter with maybe like a ||dash slash|| or something

[shut sparrow]

||nah it's alright. It mostly comes down to your soul usage. If you use ~0-2 spells in between each heal, catcher would be better. if you use more than 3 spells in between each heal, twister is better. For around 3 it's about equal.
Now twister of course also has the advantage of having a greater affect on the small vessels as well as being able to cast with less than 33 soul and being able to quadruple cast but that isn't too important for the average player||

[hoary depot]

Ok

[queen thunder]

7 times in a row is diabolical

[vague fern]

welp then you just gotta try again, if you do want any help on him i can so just lmk

[cold gust]

that was before i beat ||pantheon 4|| btw

[queen thunder]

so what should i add

[vague fern]

for what

[queen thunder]

||pure vessel|| bvro

[vague fern]

|| shaman / mop || depending on how often you use || spells || really

[cold gust]

bro just help me for general stuff i dont need tips for any specific bosses

[covert thorn]

||Nailmaster's Glory and Shaman Stone||

[sly osprey]

Holy shit, I cooked her 😭😭

[queen thunder]

thats 4 ||notches||

i got 3

[vague fern]

there is no general advice for || pantheons || beside charms and unlocking || lifeblood||

[cold gust]

oh alr

[vague fern]

|| shaman|| if you know how to || spell || him, if not then use || mark of pride / qfocus ||

[sly osprey]

😭

[queen thunder]

so ||qfocus|| it is

[sly osprey]

Dyno on my ass for no reason

[shut sparrow]

||qfocus 😔||

[vague fern]

is this || qfocus|| disrespect?

[queen thunder]

yes

def

[covert thorn]

Then replace ||Spell Twister with Nailmaster's Glory, Steady Body, and Shaman Stone.|| That's my go-to build every time I bench press ||P5.|| Sometimes I ||overcharm|| and use ||Undying Fury|| if I'm doing a no-hit.

[vague fern]

some of us are human and have to heal smh

[sly osprey]

Yo, I got a question

[queen thunder]

im not a ||nail art ||user

i js dont really like it

[sly osprey]

Could y'all follow the lore along on your first playthrough?

[vague fern]

not until later in the game

[covert thorn]

Then just use ||Shaman Stone||

[shut sparrow]

||mark of pride might be stronger for pure vessel. But still you can safely heal twice on each stagger with qf as well as easier soul orbs heals. And qfocus is just better in general for most other bosses imo||

[sly osprey]

I think I'm getting the bug picture, but I wanna immerse myself more, you know?

[queen thunder]

(im ass at spamming ||spells||)

[vague fern]

|| mop || isnt bad by any means but i dont see how it helps much on him seeing as you're always close

but fair enough

[cold gust]

how can you be ass at that

[covert thorn]

But if you really want to maximize ur arsenal, use everything including ur ||nail arts|| to clean out ||P5||

[shut sparrow]

it's tricky. Try to really pay attention to details and keywords in the dialogue. But overall you'll certainly need some lore video to fully get it afterwards

[vague fern]

on || pv || theyre not great

[queen thunder]

im not going for ||p5||

i suffered enough on ||p3||

[shut sparrow]

why did you suggest it then

[covert thorn]

Oh