hk-help

[covert olive]

i dont really know

but

you cant really

replay

it

after you beat it, it closes on that savefile forever

[mortal frigate]

Ah

[covert olive]

unless you edit the code or get a mod

[mortal frigate]

;-;

I’ll see that wait

Noooo

😭

[covert olive]

yea i was sad too

i really wanted to go back

[mortal frigate]

I will do a second run

?

Ah yes

[covert olive]

i mean

[mortal frigate]

I have the time

No worry

[covert olive]

im planning on making a ||steel soul file|| anyways

but

i am worried

cuz

||do deaths in the white palace count as deaths or dream deaths on steel soul||

[mortal frigate]

Dream death

[oak tundra]

yes || white palace death does count||

[covert olive]

damn

i mean im mostly doing it for the actual ||path|| not the ||kingsmould fight|| at the end

so i can just ||bench warp|| at the end

and i dont think i have to do the actual ||white palace|| for 100%

i think theres alternatives

for %

on my normal save ye

yes

[remote bloom]

can you still fight ultimatum?

uh the boss that starts with a r

[covert olive]

like

after defeating it once?

[remote bloom]

yes

[covert olive]

infinite

[remote bloom]

cause ive been trying to download it and just will not work

[covert olive]

download?

[remote bloom]

yeah isnt it a mod

[covert olive]

no..

[gritty idol]

||sum1 help i gen feel like quitting on nkg i cant beat him||

[covert olive]

its part of the game

[neat karma]

its a mod

[gritty idol]

please do

my favourite character is ragebaiting me

[remote bloom]

ultimatum ||radience ||

[gritty idol]

im not able to call its late but i can tell you my build

[neat karma]

anyway @final wraith dont avoid the bots filter

[gritty idol]

and im not sure how id be able to screenshare either way due to me being on console

[covert olive]

oh

it is a mod

[gritty idol]

^

[covert olive]

i dont really know

i think most mods appear in ||godhome|| though

check there

[gritty idol]

i cant rlly cuz im on a switch and plus i got nowhere to put it

[remote bloom]

yeah do you got the download for it?

[covert olive]

oh

the download

[neat karma]

go to #1057825333841240104

[covert olive]

yea no i dont

^

[gritty idol]

||Im using Grimm child, Unb strength, Quick slash and Shaman stone||

||nkg||

yeaa tough boss

idk

js the average?

his attaxks annoying

||i mean i only do the abyss shriek against nkg||

but mainly nail hits

[covert olive]

||dash attack - move away or dash away, you can get a hit in afterwards but if you wanna be safe then just dodge and then dodge the flames||

||dive attack - time your jump and then pogo on his head away from him||

||bats - jump but delay your dash just a bit so you can dash over the 2nd bottom bat and then you can slash him as much as possible||

||pillars - just fast reaction time, go inbetween the pillars||

||the 4 fire column things - dodge the first one and dash through it (not the bottom part tho), after that slowly tap your direction key and then when your under him its a perfect opportunity to slash or abyss shriek him||

||pufferfish attack - same as grimm just harder||

thats my text guide

[covert olive]

this is also a good loadout

i can give you a guide i used

that explains the attacks very well

[gritty idol]

shre if

ig

[gritty idol]

ty

[covert olive]

it doesnt make you win it instantly but youll learn way faster

[gritty idol]

isnt pogo rlly risky

i kept getting hit trying

[covert olive]

i do it but it is optional

instead of pogo

you can alternatively

||dash|| away

[gritty idol]

alr

i just get caught off guard tbh after his pufferfish

[gritty idol]

yeah pla

[gritty idol]

k

[covert olive]

try to stay in the middle

on any other attacks

than that

[gritty idol]

||ppl say sharo shadow is goates||

[covert olive]

you dont wanna get cornered

[covert olive]

the only useful thing it provides to me is slightly further range

[gritty idol]

oh alr

[covert olive]

which is pretty nice but not necessary

on his small hitbox

[gritty idol]

is my charm loadout fine

[jade sluice]

and other ppl say its bad

so its mixed opnions

[gritty idol]

k

||i always try get nail hits in during pillar attak||

[shut sparrow]

those are mostly inexperienced players

[covert olive]

bro

dms

[shut sparrow]

why shouldn't it be

[gritty idol]

alr

[covert olive]

||its an ability you have to unlock||

why did i spoiler that

😭

[shut sparrow]

read the pins

if you don't read the rules don't be surprised about not knowing the rules

[covert olive]

i just spoiler anything thats like

a thing you can obtain or find

thats the safest way to not get that bot

i mean

that is stupid yes

but its mostly bc

new people can come here

click smth either on accident or purpose

and then be like

wait i dont know this yet

[mortal jay]

|| how do i get cloth to fight traitor lord? ||

[covert olive]

which to be fair they probably are far enough in the game to be in the discord

by then

[shut sparrow]

if you read the rules you would know that spoiler tags are there for multiple discussions to happen at the same time without spoiling people not part of it. You don't spoiler tag something so the person it's directed to doesn't get spoiler.

[covert olive]

but ig for safety

[shut sparrow]

||find her in ancient basin||

[vale wharf]

yo i have a question about hk on pc

[covert olive]

and ||fungal wastes|| before that

[vale wharf]

how do I stop hk from crashing my pc?

[covert olive]

you dont

[vale wharf]

brochacho

[covert olive]

i dont think thats really

[shut sparrow]

people come here before even buying the game sometimes

[covert olive]

something we can help with

reduce your graphics

close stuff

restart your device

idk

game is telling you

you need better device

but there might be ways around it

[vale wharf]

i close everything and have verified the integrity of all of the files

[covert olive]

experiment

[vale wharf]

i have tried everything

this is help tho

[covert olive]

wait

[shut sparrow]

ask in #modding-discussion
if you don't get a reply after a while, make a post in #1057825333841240104 but make sure you read the pinned post first and mention you're not using mods (unless you are)

[covert olive]

in what way does it crash though

just curious

[carmine surge]

Is this channel for only ingame content help ?

[vale wharf]

like my pc freezes and the sound repeats really fast

[covert olive]

pablo pfp

w

[shut sparrow]

depends on the question but often yes. That doesn't really matter tho since it's a fact people come here

[carmine surge]

W pablo

[covert olive]

yiiiiiiiikes

yea that might be more than just ingame

[vale wharf]

no on steam

[covert olive]

you might have

[vale wharf]

cant

[covert olive]

you might have uh

[carmine surge]

Is your pc good enough dude

[covert olive]

internal pc problems

theyre not visible

on your actual pc

[carmine surge]

You can check the requirements and match them with yours

[covert olive]

like

[shut sparrow]

#hk-help message

[covert olive]

you cant access them too easily

youd have to check inside

the components

allat

[vale wharf]

is a msi 270 good?

[covert olive]

my friend's monitor kept turning off randomly and back on

turns out

his entire graphics card

slid a little

off

place

[carmine surge]

GPU doesn't matter that much in 2d games

[covert olive]

memory

im not really a pc expert i just know some things

[vale wharf]

kk

[covert olive]

storage is usually an issue for steam games

[carmine surge]

Run it on a calculator

[covert olive]

cpu not really

lack of memory can also lead to problems

[carmine surge]

ye that's insane

[covert olive]

ive experienced this myself

[carmine surge]

thank you dude yours is good too

[covert olive]

a game straight up closed once cuz i ran out of memory on my laptop

back in the day

ive played a lot of good games

if you wanna ask me after

best ones?

[carmine surge]

I played dead cells Celeste hollow knight both games and Undertale that's the indie games I've played

[covert olive]

uh

[carmine surge]

Really good game ngl

[covert olive]

hk
undertale and deltarune
terraria
dredge

are a few i can name rn

oh

[neat karma]

i thought this was hk help

[covert olive]

ultrakill

how can i forget

[jade sluice]

terraria is indie?

[covert olive]

no one needs help

[carmine surge]

It is but idk how It has come to this

[covert olive]

oh indie games

didnt realize

[jade sluice]

and is deltarune really considered indie

when it has an actual better team now

[covert olive]

yea pretty much

[jade sluice]

instead of only toby and some other people

[neat karma]

yall can do some chat if no one need helps but that doesnt mean fully turn the chat into another general

[covert olive]

it started out indie its close enough

[neat karma]

shit discourages people

[covert olive]

havent really noticed that in effect but

i can stop

[carmine surge]

I didn't go that far into the game it was hard

[covert olive]

oh

guys

[neat karma]

the game of switch channels

[covert olive]

i feel like theres a better channel for this

now that i look at it

#off-topic is right there

[shut sparrow]

hello i s m o i l

[neat karma]

yonsenf

[covert olive]

absolutely yeeted by spoilerbot

🙁

[rotund ermine]

||how do i get essence once ive gotten all the tree things||

i didnt know that

[shut sparrow]

please tag this

@neat karma can you add it

[covert olive]

||warrior dreams mostly, but theres also 3 bosses that you can "revive" and 2 bosses that you can access aswell through other means||

[brave drum]

The word was added successfully!

The word was added successfully!

[jade sluice]

can you add the word cat

[neat karma]

i can

[covert olive]

what do we think

[neat karma]

yet i wont

[covert olive]

should pogo be spoiler

[jade sluice]

😔

[jade sluice]

no

its just down slash

[covert olive]

true

[silent wraith]

||yo so im in deepnest rn with stuff like shade cloak and monarch wings so i already left through the original pit but how do i leave through mantis village||

[shut sparrow]

don't be mean

[silent wraith]

fr

[covert olive]

||defeat mantis lords||

[silent wraith]

crazy

[shut sparrow]

read the pins

[jade sluice]

California

[carmine surge]

Every name place is a spoiler

[silent wraith]

i did that ages ago, i just need to find the exit, but it seems to be blocked or im stupid

[small egret]

||hi||

[jade sluice]

Michigan

it doesnt work

[carmine surge]

|| hi ||

[rotund ermine]

duse be nice even if he is being like still be nice

[carmine surge]

you're sooo funny really

[covert olive]

||can you send me a map of where you are||

[jade sluice]

thanks

[balmy geyser]

||do u need to do path of pain for 112?||

[covert olive]

no

[jade sluice]

no

[covert olive]

its optional

[small egret]

||is lost kin harder than failed champion, i beat lost kin but i cant seem to beat the failed champion||

[carmine surge]

||no ||

[covert olive]

||failed champion is harder||

[rotund ermine]

it doesnt sound like you used it in a positive way though

[shut sparrow]

you are constantly off topic and being slightly toxic. Please just stop it. Read the rules if you wanna talk here but don't constantly question stuff you can just read yourself

[carmine surge]

|| failed champ is harder ngl ||

[covert olive]

||i think you have to enter through the other side? im not sure tho it was a WHILE since ive been there||

[silent wraith]

yea sure i can do that ill just exit through above

[small egret]

|| is hiveblood good for POP||

[rotund ermine]

yes

[carmine surge]

Yes

[covert olive]

absolutely

[rotund ermine]

ibve heard

[covert olive]

but

there are 2 charms you shouldnt use

[small egret]

||grimmchild no use?||

[covert olive]

||joni's blessing|| and ||dashmaster||

these can easily mess you up

[covert olive]

this too

[wanton narwhal]

oh hell nah

DONT use that

[covert olive]

anything similar to ||grimmchild|| is bad

[small egret]

||wait how do you check your percentage in the game||

[covert olive]

in ||pop||

[covert olive]

||have you been in the black egg||

[small egret]

yes

[wanton narwhal]

did u read the lore tablet?

[covert olive]

||near the bench theres a little thing you can interact with that unlocks percentage in the bottom right of inventory||

[wanton narwhal]

then in ur inventory

[small egret]

||i think i killed all the dreamers way too early||

[wanton narwhal]

there is no "way too early" in this game

[small egret]

||theres a bench in the black egg temples?||

[covert olive]

yes

[wanton narwhal]

ok u haven't been in there yet then

[small egret]

dang i didnt notice that

cause i havent done the ending yet

[wanton narwhal]

ohhhh ok

[covert olive]

just so you know

[small egret]

i am trying to save it

|| i havent even gotten pure nail yet||

[wanton narwhal]

ye once u enter ||the black egg temple and read the lore tablet, u can see it in ur inventory||

[covert olive]

||you should probably do it soon, you can just reload your save file and it will put you back before the battle, and the ending can change later on, i wont say how but the current ending will become unobtainable||

[wanton narwhal]

||dream nail, not pure nail||

[small egret]

|| oh so after i do one ending that ending i cannot repeat im assuming||

[wanton narwhal]

nooo

[jade sluice]

you can still do it if you want

[wanton narwhal]

once u do an ending, there are some stuff u can do

[jade sluice]

it can get locked if you do something though

[covert olive]

||well yes but no, theres a thing you can do that will change the ending, not when beating it||

[wanton narwhal]

u can do the ending infitately

until u get something

[covert olive]

^

[wanton narwhal]

how is ending a spoiler....

[vapid veldt]

good ||charms || for || trial of the fool?||

[covert olive]

this is wild

[carmine surge]

Ofc it is dude

[small egret]

||I alr have voidheart||

[neat karma]

me when i dont read

[abstract smelt]

Plural

[neat karma]

its ||endings||

[jade sluice]

uhh ||nailmaster glory, quickslash, shaman||

[wanton narwhal]

oh then ur locked out of the first ending.......

[neat karma]

||its a spoiler theres several||

[small egret]

dang

[abstract smelt]

And also cuz u might have names or smrh abt spoilers

[covert olive]

almost

[wanton narwhal]

spoiler bot tweaking

[carmine surge]

|| nailmasters glory shaman stone soul catcher grubsong anddd baldurs shell cuz an extra notch ||

[rotund ermine]

just defeated ||thk for the 50th time ||

[wanton narwhal]

lol

[carmine surge]

Any ingame content is considered a spoiler btw 💔

[abstract smelt]

W

[covert olive]

||soul catcher|| and ||dream wielder|| are really not as good as they make themselves to be, id use ||quick slash|| instead or ||mark of pride||, if youre going defensive then ||baldur shell|| and the ||thorn|| one or ||grubsong||

damn

i really do think after i type

[abstract smelt]

Lol

[carmine surge]

|| he is disappointing ngl way too ez ||

[jade sluice]

||dream wielder|| is GOOD

||for colloseum specifically||

[covert olive]

does he know

[carmine surge]

I do know.

[covert olive]

what do you think it does

[vapid veldt]

alr this is what i have

[jade sluice]

easier to get ||inf soul||

[vapid veldt]

idk why i replied sorry

[covert olive]

um

how so

on what enemy

[carmine surge]

|| how you don't get much opportunities to dream nail even if it's quicker ||

[covert olive]

would you do that

[jade sluice]

there's a few enemies very easy to hit that

like the ones with shield

[covert olive]

🤔

[neat karma]

||baldur shell its ass because it doesnt let you heal, doesnt save your soul, and has only 3 uses, thorns of agony deals little damage, isnt guaranteed to hit, and it actually hurts you more than helps because it removes iframes||

[carmine surge]

They spawn once or twice at most lol

[jade sluice]

||the ones that roll are also possible||

[pine zinc]

Dont disrespect my boy

[neat karma]

on the other hand, ||soul catchers soul increase isnt as small as it looks like and it can easily add up||

[jade sluice]

wait you said ||thorns??????||

😭

[covert olive]

||baldur shell has more than 3 uses, it has like 7 or 8 and thorns of agony does 2.5x nail damage, these 2 charms have saved me al ot before||

[jade sluice]

||thorns of agony literally remove your iframes||

its NOT worth it

[abstract smelt]

Fr

[covert olive]

i havent really noticed that to be the case

[wanton narwhal]

its not the best tho

[neat karma]

it for SURE doesnt have 7 or 8, and youve been missinformed it deals 1x ||nail damage not 2.5||

[carmine surge]

|| baldur shell is a reason why any radiance was defeated btw and you're calling it ass ||

[pine zinc]

||Baldur|| sure isnt one of the best, but dont compare it to ||thorns|| bro 😭

[covert olive]

yea

[abstract smelt]

Like imagine taking 2 times same hits

[neat karma]

its situational

[covert olive]

prob not for ||tof||

[wanton narwhal]

i use ||quick slash, shaman stone, unbr stregnth and longnail||

but not everyone has them

yet

[vapid veldt]

the ||heavy fool is super easy to farm soul with dream nail and dream wielder, since when it does the downward slash you can jump over it and dream nail||

[neat karma]

just like ||carefree is pure ass on paper but on very specific situations its the best at its job||

[vapid veldt]

thats what i found

[covert olive]

i mean i guess

but you dont really need soul

that much

most of the enemies are easy

no but like

[neat karma]

spoiler tags, and i am aware

[abstract smelt]

Ik

[carmine surge]

|| I think spamming nail arts are enough for any colo ||

[vapid veldt]

reminder ||primal aspids spawn||

[abstract smelt]

Mb

[neat karma]

the very small chances of rng is what makes it ass and situational

[abstract smelt]

But its just rng

[covert olive]

you can 2 shot those or 1 shot with arts

[abstract smelt]

Yea

[covert olive]

just remember where they spawn

or pogo them

[abstract smelt]

Like chances so smol

[wanton narwhal]

||MAGNETITE DICE, on the other hand.....(silksong||

[covert olive]

is it useful for ||steel soul|| in any way

[carmine surge]

saved me a lot of times ( I died two second after prob)

[neat karma]

no silksong on this channel thanks, even tagged, but ||there it gets a pass because its the only option||

[covert olive]

so ik if its worth getting

i mean im getting it anyways for the achievement

but

is it worth using ig

[wanton narwhal]

mb

i had to say it tho

[vapid veldt]

so instead of ||baldur i was thinking grubsong and another 1 notch or stalwart||

[covert olive]

yeah

defensive wise prob that

[vapid veldt]

which one i gave 2 options?

[carmine surge]

good way to improve reading faster

[carmine surge]

|| grubsong ofc ||

[covert olive]

||grub and stalwart||

oh wait

or are those

[vapid veldt]

but then i ||over charm||

[covert olive]

the 2 options

well

[vapid veldt]

i said ||grub and another 1 notch OR stalwart||

[covert olive]

if ur keeping ||dream wielder|| then prob ||stalwart||

otherwise

[vapid veldt]

im not keeping ||dream wielder||

[carmine surge]

Good choice

[vapid veldt]

i was under utilizing it anyways

[covert olive]

then

[vapid veldt]

it's pretty hard to use with the ||spikes||

[covert olive]

id actually say you have a choice

of 3

[carmine surge]

Try farming before it or something and spam || spells ||

[vapid veldt]

this is what i have rn

[vapid veldt]

with or without ||dream nail||

[covert olive]

ok

[vapid veldt]

like go out in ||kingdoms edge and farm?||

[covert olive]

i mean cant you

just

go into the

||hotspring||

in the ||colo||

[carmine surge]

|| spikes part is at the end I mean farming enemies in the colo before this spike part ||

[carmine surge]

Dude he would probably spend all of his soul before he reaches the spike part

[vapid veldt]

wait what

there's one

[unkempt kite]

||anyone got any tips for me to beat the first hornet in hollow knight?||

[carmine surge]

Yes lll

[covert olive]

breakable wall

[carmine surge]

how do you know it's the first..

[unkempt kite]

||I saw someone mention it in a tut||

[carmine surge]

The boss is really ez tho || try staying away from her and recognize her move animations and you should be fine ||

[covert olive]

||stalwart probably is the best option or grub + defender, this last choice is mostly just for the annoying wall jump section that doesnt let you breath, stalwart is gonna let you have more time to pick up yourself but defender's crest + grub is gonna give you soul and passive damage in the air||

so its really up to you to try them out

[unkempt kite]

||I always think she's gonna do that one move and does another one||

||she attacks too quick||

[vapid veldt]

||when she uses her silk and makes a circle of damage, that's when you heal||

[covert olive]

||if she jumps, move away, if she doesnt jump, you jump||

try that

[unkempt kite]

||do I use vengeful spirit or heal more?||

[pine zinc]

Lwk jus get ||shaman stone|| then spam spell her

[covert olive]

||early on you wanna prioritize healing||

[carmine surge]

|| try spamming vengeful spirit and that's why you should stay away from her so you have enough time to react ||

[unkempt kite]

||how do I have 2.5h on hollow knight and I'm in hornet boss||

[covert olive]

||you can vengeful spirit if youre full hp||

[unkempt kite]

yh I'm not suited for this game 🥹😭

[covert olive]

hey you have less than me when i got there

i think

[carmine surge]

It's good dude it took me way more on my first playthrough

[covert olive]

i cnat really remember

[pine zinc]

We all got different talent, one day you will finish the game

[unkempt kite]

horay

[unkempt kite]

hopefully

[carmine surge]

It took me 5 hours to reach her I think

[covert olive]

i mean im on 70 hours now so

[unkempt kite]

my stupid ahh bought silksong before hollow knight thinking hollow knight was the sequel

[pine zinc]

Well its fine

[covert olive]

funny thing is

[carmine surge]

|| did you play silksong tho or ? ||

[covert olive]

the tutorial of hollow knight is at the very beginning

[pine zinc]

You dont need to have hk to understand sk

[covert olive]

the tutorial of silksong is hollow knight

[unkempt kite]

||I played till moss mother or smth like that||

[carmine surge]

That's fine then

[pine zinc]

Hollow knight was definitivly easier

I meant harder

Mb

[carmine surge]

|| silksong has some spoilers tho for hk ||

[covert olive]

ive heard a lot

about silksong being

super hard

i havent actually played

[pine zinc]

It isnt

[covert olive]

ive seen some memes tho

[pine zinc]

Theyre liars

[carmine surge]

no really

[covert olive]

or like

atleast

[pine zinc]

Only at the very end a big spoiler

[covert olive]

harder cuz its different idk

[unkempt kite]

||hollow knight been easier so far||

||before I reached hornet||

[pine zinc]

Hk normal game is easier than sk, but if we count dlcs hk is miles harder

[covert olive]

lets be honest here

we know which dlc

[unkempt kite]

what's the best dlc

[pine zinc]

( dont read this luca) silksong hardest boss is easier than ||pure vessel||

[covert olive]

well

[pine zinc]

All dlc are already in game so dw abt it ( theyre free)

[covert olive]

yea

i can still answer tho

in my opinion

[unkempt kite]

horay

idrm the money

I'm just so bored

😭

[covert olive]

i wont say which one is the best but ill say which

i found the most fun

the names of the dlc's are public info

i believe

but

ill spoiler

[pine zinc]

||grimm troupe|| was funniest to me

[unkempt kite]

why would we spoiler the dlcs😭

oki tho

[pine zinc]

But very fast

[covert olive]

it has a word

that gets picked up by filter

[unkempt kite]

ah

[covert olive]

||"The Grimm Troupe"|| dlc was the one i had the most fun in, even tho it was short

[unkempt kite]

cool

[vapid veldt]

save ||soul for heals, but always use spells when you can||

[unkempt kite]

I tried to keep myself from watching ANY hollow knight content to keep away from spoilers

[pine zinc]

Get ||shaman stone trust||

[unkempt kite]

what does it do

[covert olive]

the dlc im currently experiencing, ||"Godhome"|| you wanna stay away from, do not interact with this dlc until youre done with the game

[sand pond]

|| 3rd Pantheon is making me lag so hard especially at the collector and god tamer||

[pine zinc]

Buff your spell dmg by 33%

[covert olive]

more dmg for ||spells||

[covert olive]

damn

[unkempt kite]

||I don't see it in the normal shop||

[carmine surge]

|| do you mean struggle or actually your device lagging ||

[covert olive]

im trying to do that for silksong so hard

but they keep finding me

[sand pond]

Device lagging

[covert olive]

🙁

[pine zinc]

Its in the right of the map, theres another shop with charms

[carmine surge]

What are you playing on

[pine zinc]

In ||forgotten crossroads||

[sand pond]

Computer

[unkempt kite]

||I am NOT going back to forgotten crossroads, thats like a maze||

[carmine surge]

It is lmao

[covert olive]

have you bought ||the compass||

[pine zinc]

Jus go as much right as u can and when u cant go right go down

[unkempt kite]

||yh it's so useless tho||

[pine zinc]

I cant live whitout it

[covert olive]

||not really, its pretty good for learning the map layout||

[carmine surge]

not at all dude

[unkempt kite]

||idk what it does||

[carmine surge]

It's a must item in your first playthrough

[pine zinc]

Even used ||compass|| on my speedrun

[covert olive]

||it displays where you are on the map||

[carmine surge]

|| shows where you are on the map ||

[unkempt kite]

||ohhh||

||yeah pretty useful rhen||

||also what's the point of having a map if u don't even know where u are😭||

[carmine surge]

Don't you try || charms after getting them or read the description||

[pine zinc]

This was lwk my build in my speedrun

[covert olive]

nice

[unkempt kite]

I have like 2 charms

[covert olive]

knowing me id have like 10 more charms cuz im not that good

[carmine surge]

I don't mean any disrespect but who uses || compass in a speedrun ? ||

[sand pond]

|| This is also why I try to rush down the bosses as fast as possible so I don't get a surprise lag spike ||

[pine zinc]

Not a real speedrun jus getting the "less than 5 hours finishing game" achievement

Obv if i did a real speedrun i wouldnt need it

[carmine surge]

Oh I see

[pine zinc]

Since id know the map 100%

[covert olive]

maps themselves arent too good, but after getting the ||compass|| and the ||quill|| from ||dirtmouth||, not only do you see your location but you can update the map every time you find a new room as long as you sit on a bench

[carmine surge]

Not all Speedruners know 100% of the map || the route is pretty known ngl ||

[covert olive]

yea

[pine zinc]

They know where they go ig

[carmine surge]

Ye

[pine zinc]

I lwk got lost at ||crystal peak|| lol

[covert olive]

how hard was the 5 hours achievement btw

first try or

[pine zinc]

First tried whitout any guide in 4 hours

So easy deal

[covert olive]

nice

funny story

i actually almost got

the

100% under 20 hours achievement

[carmine surge]

Man I wish they didn't remove the || Speedrun achievements from playstation||

[covert olive]

i missed by like

[pine zinc]

How close were you

[covert olive]

5 hours

[pine zinc]

Dam

[covert olive]

cuz i got to ||black egg|| at 21 hours

[pine zinc]

And you already had 100% at 25h?

[covert olive]

and i got 100% at like max 30 hours

i dont remember exactly

but the timeframe was about 5-7 hours

[pine zinc]

I see

Im always too lazy to get upgrades

[covert olive]

except i stalled a LOT

[pine zinc]

So i was kinda skiw

Slow

Got 112% at like 55h

[covert olive]

i think i had like

73% when i

got the

completion thing

[pine zinc]

I had 67% ( no joke)

[covert olive]

😭

ok imma go suffer on ||ascended markoth|| for a bit more and then go sleep

its 1:37 am

yikes

[pine zinc]

Gl

[covert olive]

thank god tomorrow is saturday

[pine zinc]

I got my ||radhog|| at like 75h

[carmine surge]

What's that dude

[pine zinc]

||radiant hall of god||

[carmine surge]

bro no way

[covert olive]

im at 75 hours rn 😭

[carmine surge]

You used ||invincibility glitch didn't you ||

[pine zinc]

Nah

[carmine surge]

I don't believe you bro there is no way

[covert olive]

i think by the time im done with all ||godhome|| content its gonna be like 125 hours

[carmine surge]

Was it your second playthrough or something

[pine zinc]

A friend of mine got ||p5|| in 30h

[pine zinc]

Nope only got 2 playtroughs in total and the second is the speedrun

[carmine surge]

dudeee how is that possible

[covert olive]

if youre online tomorrow (at my time atleast) do you mind hopping in one of the vc's

maybe you have some strats or smth

[carmine surge]

What time is it for you atm

[covert olive]

1:40 am

[pine zinc]

On ||markoth?||

[covert olive]

so what i really mean is later today technically but its too confusing like that

[covert olive]

yea and like

||HoG|| too

some of them

[thick sentinel]

which ||charms|| should i use while fighting ||Nosk?|| I'm struggling a bit

[pine zinc]

Try using || nail arts|| for him

[covert olive]

text is fine too

[covert olive]

aaaaaaaaaaa

i hate thooose

[carmine surge]

|| shaman stone soul eater and strength||

[covert olive]

i keep seeing that as one of the strats but i cant

ive tried

[pine zinc]

Use ||nailmaster glory|| to charge em faster

[thick sentinel]

i'd ||overcharm||

[covert olive]

idk what to replace

[pine zinc]

Some people also use ||grubberfly elegy||

[sleek plover]

do not lower yourself

[carmine surge]

Oh use || soul catcher then ||

[pine zinc]

Whats ur build

[covert olive]

this is my default ||godhome|| build

[pine zinc]

ARGH

||SHARP SHADOW||

ARGGGH

[carmine surge]

|| shaman stone dude 💔 ||

[covert olive]

i struggle without the extra range

[pine zinc]

Give me warning before jumpscares bro

[covert olive]

i dont use ||spells|| that much

im a nail user

mainly

i mean

i use ||spells|| just not

||shade soul||

[pine zinc]

Quickslassh against ||markoth|| aint that useful

[carmine surge]

|| the strat to beating markoth is going for nail only till he goes second phase and after he does you spam all of your soul by shade soul ||

[covert olive]

see ive tried that

[pine zinc]

What was yall first||radiant||

[covert olive]

||no one||

[pine zinc]

Ah

[covert olive]

not yet

but

i have no hitted

some

[carmine surge]

|| traitor lord cuz I loved this boss ||

[covert olive]

i forgot who was first tho

[pine zinc]

Mine was ||pv||

[covert olive]

prob like ||crystal guardian|| or smth

[pine zinc]

I basically lost to ||p4|| so i went to pratice but the boss was so good i decided to ||radiant||

[covert olive]

so what should i use

[carmine surge]

Are you a human dude 💔

[covert olive]

ok but ||pv|| is fun when you learn it

[pine zinc]

Get ||qk|| out

Useless on||markoth||

[covert olive]

ok

[carmine surge]

If you go for || nail build then this should be fine and if you like sharp shadow then it's also fine ||

[pine zinc]

U absolutly want to use ||nailmaster glory||

On him

[covert olive]

i dont really wanna try the ||grubberfly|| strat cuz

i wont have full hp in like 10 seconds

[carmine surge]

||Ye he is ez when you keep fighting him for hundred of times or somet||

[covert olive]

i can try it but no promise ill keep it

[pine zinc]

Imagine its ||radiant||

[covert olive]

my brain cant do that

if it knows it can take a hit then it allows it

i wish i could like

shift my neurons around

[pine zinc]

On ||radiant|| that guy was such a bastard

[covert olive]

you go there and yo ugo there

[carmine surge]

|| I was stuck on radiance and him and obblobles or whatever they're called dude they're the worst boss ever dude ||

[pine zinc]

I actually used ||elegy|| on em and it did fine

[covert olive]

ok well i have 2 ||notches|| left after adding ||nailmaster glory||

[carmine surge]

I wish we could use || fury of the fallen in radiant fights ||

[covert olive]

unfortunately thats just not how it works 😔

[pine zinc]

Maybe more range

[pine zinc]

Would be too easy😔

[covert olive]

||longnail||?

[carmine surge]

Ye real

[pine zinc]

Yeah

[covert olive]

aight imma try

wait what ||nail art|| do i even wanna use

[pine zinc]

If we could use it ||radiant|| fights would end up like that guy who did ||pv|| in 8 secs

[shut sparrow]

#hk-help message
this is for hitless but the same strat applies. For charms I'd use ||strength, qslash, shaman, sbody, nailmaster's glory because of the rest of the pantheon. If you really struggle with markoth specifically and could do the rest of the segment without strength or qslash you can remove one of those and use catcher or twister and grubsong instead||

[pine zinc]

||greatslash or dashslash||

[covert olive]

ive got no idea what deals the most damage

[pine zinc]

These two do the same

[shut sparrow]

||great and dash slash deal the same damage. Both is 2.5x nail||

[carmine surge]

||It would be fun if there was a mod menu after you do all radiant bosses so you could experiment without needing mods ||

Only in || hall of gods tho ||

[covert olive]

||godseeker mode|| is 1 step of it

[pine zinc]

Oh yeah for non pc players

Would be cool

[carmine surge]

Yeah I wish I could get a randomizer on playstation

[pine zinc]

Me and my laptop dont have to worry abt that

How do humans even beat ||any rad 2.0||

They made a pact with a demon or what

[carmine surge]

Insane dedication

[pine zinc]

Atleast theres no 3.0 clear

( whitout tas)

[carmine surge]

It will be best soon

[pine zinc]

I doubt that

[covert olive]

i dont even know how im gonna do ||all pantheons all bindings at once||

[carmine surge]

People doubted || any rad 2.0 so nothing is impossible||

[pine zinc]

You dont need to do em all at once

[carmine surge]

There was a || hitless p5ab and it was insane ||

[covert olive]

||they turn gold if you do, i want that||

[pine zinc]

Thats jus for the fun of the game

[pine zinc]

You can just do

[orchid flower]

||Any Rad 3.0 was beaten up to the middle of the climb I think||

[covert olive]

not immediately tho

[pine zinc]

One by one

[covert olive]

not for the gold

if you do them one by one theyre gonna be bronze

[pine zinc]

Yuh uh

[carmine surge]

Wow that's insane

[pine zinc]

After theyre all done they become gold

[orchid flower]

That’s not true

You have to do them all at once if you want them to glow.

[pine zinc]

Fr?

[orchid flower]

Yes

I have 1 and 2 glowing but 3 and 4 they’re just all on

[pine zinc]

Good thing i didnt do one by one then

[pine zinc]

Mb

[covert olive]

this is one by one

[orchid flower]

Yea lol

[pine zinc]

This lwk ugly

[covert olive]

this is all at same time

not my pics btw

[pine zinc]

I got|| p1-p4 Ab || but i dont even feel like trying ||p5AB||

[orchid flower]

And if you do it hitless the center of the middle icon turns gold

[covert olive]

i mean thats just basically the other 4 but add 2 more bosses

its still hella hard tho i can only imagine

[pine zinc]

More than 2

[shut sparrow]

no

[covert olive]

more than 2?

oh wait

well

[orchid flower]

The difficulty isn’t the bosses it’s the endurance test+most of them get buffed

[covert olive]

im not counting the

2 new variants

but yeah technically 4

[pine zinc]

Theyre whole different tho

And theyre all buffed

[orchid flower]

||Collector AB is one of the hardest bosses in the game||

[pine zinc]

Like by exemple

The worst

Of the worst

[orchid flower]

I’d argue third hardest boss in the game

[pine zinc]

To do in ||p5AB||

Is defo

The ||collector||

[covert olive]

its bc

[pine zinc]

This guy goes first to me

[covert olive]

u cant one shot the

little guys

right

[pine zinc]

Ye

[covert olive]

all the ||primal aspids||

[shut sparrow]

||firstly, all in a row is much harder. Secondly, many bosses have different and harder versions||

[orchid flower]

Yeah

[sleek plover]

blah blah blah bot

[pine zinc]

Someone is selling

[shut sparrow]

||collector, gpz and absrad probably the hardest ones||

[orchid flower]

||Even Collector with just the nail binding is brutal||

[covert olive]

ok well i have experience with ||gpz||

i beat him all 10 times

[pine zinc]

Wouldnt put ||abs radiance|| in the top 3

But idk who to place unstead

[covert olive]

all it took was following the ||57 precepts||

[sleek plover]

||regular gpz10 is a different fight with bindings right?||

[near egret]

How does the spoiler wall work?

[covert olive]

| |h||

try that but without a space

[shut sparrow]

||it might even be top 1. It doesn't drastically change through ab like collector does which often makes it seem a lot easier than it actually is. It's still extremely difficult on ab tho||

[sleek plover]

||just spoiler tag anything you type lol, bot will catch you||

[orchid flower]

||Type like this 💖||

Idk why yall are playing games with explaining how to spoiler tag

[pine zinc]

I feel ||AB|| doesnt change anything on ||abs radiance|| jus makes the fight longer

[shut sparrow]

||in godhome is the 4th version of gpz||

[covert olive]

actually

||is it the 4th or 3rd||

||i forgot when he starts dealing double dmg||

[shut sparrow]

||well, you are constantly 2 hit, can't spam spells or heal up well and don't have op charms||

[orchid flower]

||Abs Rad while effectively only being able to be hit 3 times is pretty awful||

[pine zinc]

Thats for most boss

[orchid flower]

||(You get a heal at phase 3)||

[cyan rapids]

hey guys i want to go for the 112% but should i avoid fighting the ||radiance|| until i get all the ||charms, grubs, etc|| or just do it after?

[covert olive]

i mean technicallyyyy

[shut sparrow]

||he starts dealing double damage on the 5th. In godhome is the 4th||

[covert olive]

if you play well enough

[orchid flower]

||Abs Rad|| is way harder than most bosses 💖

[covert olive]

yo ucan keep the ||lifeblood reward thing||

[shut sparrow]

||just that absrad is a lot harder than most bosses||

[pine zinc]

If you know the fight at 100% ||abs radiance||wont be a problem unlike ||collector||

[shut sparrow]

whenever you want

[pine zinc]

Not on ||AB||

[shut sparrow]

tags

[shut sparrow]

at least for me it was one of the hardest

[covert olive]

HOW

[pine zinc]

Its more than time i get the sk achievement

[covert olive]

how is ||nonsenf|| a tag

[shut sparrow]

huge spoiler imo

[orchid flower]

||I would say on AB Abs Rad is harder than every other boss except like maybe Collector and Markoth||

[wary surge]

What even is that?

[pine zinc]

Where is my boi ||gpz||

[near egret]

With the spoiler wall so brackets work cause I can't find the thing to do it

[orchid flower]

||GPZ difficulty is overhyped in my humble opinion||

[sleek plover]

||||

[cyan rapids]

just hold shift while pressing \ on your keyboard

[serene vine]

|

[pine zinc]

||AB would make really harder i believe||

[shut sparrow]

you can just use the /spoiler command at the start of your message

[covert olive]

nah

[orchid flower]

||I’ve done him AB||

[covert olive]

the ||nail arts|| strat is not working for me just as good as my previous strat

imma try ||shaman stone|| now

[shut sparrow]

you need to practice it

[cyan rapids]

or after you write your message you highlight the portion you want to mark and press the eye icon

[near egret]

Ty I'll try it

[brazen flower]

||can someone give me a good charm loadout for trial of fools? I have 10 notches||

[covert olive]

i dont have time rn 🙏

[shut sparrow]

can you show what you have

[shut sparrow]

bosses need time

[brazen flower]

I can grind anything I just want to beat it

[covert olive]

ive spent like 6 hours on ||ascended markoth|| by now

[shut sparrow]

||nailarts is longterm the safest and easiest strat. You just need a bit of time to learn it at the start||

[covert olive]

thats more

than ANY

other boss so far

[orchid flower]

||Radiant Markoth took me like 20 min with Grubberfly’s Elegy just use that||

[shut sparrow]

that's because you haven't been using the ||nail art|| strat from the start
Did you see the specific strat I linked?

[near egret]

||Can someone help i got my shade back from Fiji but when I left the soul holder thing is still broken can I have help fixing it||

[brazen flower]

Any charm*

[orchid flower]

||Radiant Markoth is really overhyped I found Radiant Nailmasters and Radiant Oblobbles way harder||

[covert olive]

yes i did see it

[orchid flower]

||Grubberfly’s Elegy is the superior strat||

[shut sparrow]

that's not true

[covert olive]

only on ||radiant||

[orchid flower]

All im sayin is I couldn’t beat ||ascended Markoth|| until I used ||Grubberfly’s elegy|| then I first tried him it’s so much easier it’s hilarious

[shut sparrow]

difficulty is subjective. You not struggling with something doesn't mean the majority didn't. Something doesn't have to be "overhyped" because one player didn't struggle while the majority did

[orchid flower]

From my subjective perspective

He’s not as hard as most people say he is

[covert olive]

ok this might sound weird

but my best working strat for ||markoth phase 1|| is to pogo him

[orchid flower]

That’s a very good strat

[covert olive]

DO I COUNT THAT

[shut sparrow]

it depends on your experience with ||nailarts. If you haven't used them a lot up to that point, you are going to have to learn them first which will seem difficult and take its time. Once you can deal with them it's much safer tho||

[shut sparrow]

that's not a good strat

[covert olive]

||i won with shaman stone but then i lagged and jumped into the fog and died||

the game counted it tho

[shut sparrow]

usually dying after defeating a boss still counts so good job!

[covert olive]

gggg

[orchid flower]

Why? Just wailing on him can work really really well and even let you skip phase 2 if you do it right

[hollow bramble]

its risky

[shut sparrow]

||it's difficult and often leads to you getting hit by his shield which makes it very risky||

[covert olive]

hm

maybe ||shaman stone|| is better than i thought

[shut sparrow]

it's like the 2nd best charm

so yeah

[covert olive]

but i still want ||quick slash||

[shut sparrow]

then use both

[covert olive]

im not a ||vengeful spirit/shade soul|| user pretty much so i never really wanted to use it but

i might after seeing the effects

[covert olive]

slight problem

cant

[shut sparrow]

get rid of that second shit

[covert olive]

||mark of pride||?

[shut sparrow]

ya

[covert olive]

ig i can just replace it with that

this is prob better

[shut sparrow]

it's nice but gets vastly overshadowed by stronger charms

[shut sparrow]

better but not great. Generally nail ||range isn't the best||

[covert olive]

i dont really have anything better

[shut sparrow]

you do

[covert olive]

than that

not in my eyes

consider im a nail main

[shut sparrow]

||catcher, twister, shape of unn, steady body + grubsong/wielder/nailmaster's glory||

[shut sparrow]

why do you intentionally limit yourself?
Either way there are good options for nail builds as well

[covert olive]

||catcher ive said goodbye to a long time ago when i realized theres better things, twister i dont really feel the need for, i get enough soul, shape of unn is ok but not better, steady body i dont find good at all||

[covert olive]

its not intentional

i just dont like the other damage ways

[shut sparrow]

||catcher is extremely good.||

[covert olive]

theyre not that comfortable for me to use

[covert olive]

i only really found it useful for half of the game

[shut sparrow]

I mean at that point it is intentional, no?

[covert olive]

its more of a personal preference

[shut sparrow]

which is intentional

[covert olive]

kinda

by definition yes

its just like

[shut sparrow]

anyways just use|| sbody and grubsong/nailmaster's glory then||

[covert olive]

i like the balance of

using soul for heal

using nail for damage

having 2 uses for soul just

[shut sparrow]

||soul catcher is mostly for healing||

[covert olive]

made it a little hard for me

[granite juniper]

I need help for ||asb rad||

[shut sparrow]

that's because you don't practice it

[shut sparrow]

please spoiler tag this ||like this||

what do you need help with?

[covert olive]

i dont really have

much to practice

its just my skill

[granite juniper]

The final phase

[covert olive]

of dodfing

dodging*

[shut sparrow]

of course you do

you always have stuff to practice

[covert olive]

i mean sure

i could practice bosses

until ive got

them all memorized

[shut sparrow]

your skill directly correlates to your practice

[covert olive]

but i dont want ||godhome|| to take a mental toll on me

[shut sparrow]

that's not how it works

you practice both to learn a boss fight and to get better at the game

[granite juniper]

I need help wat charm combo

[shut sparrow]

if you started using ||spells now and practiced bosses with it for half an hour, you'd be decent at using them. 2 more hours and you'd be pretty good and have implemented them fully in your playstyle||

[shut sparrow]

||play the game however you want. Do what is most fun for you. But if you are struggling and looking for ways to make it easier/get better, that's just the best way||

[shut sparrow]

||strength, qslash, shaman, sbody grubsong is what I recommend. Instead of the last 2 you can also use twister or catcher||

[granite juniper]

I like ||quick focus so I have health during asb rad||

[shut sparrow]

||you can use it instead of quickslash or shaman if you really want to but as I said I don't really recommend it||

[covert olive]

ok i REALLY like ||shaman stone|| but i dont feel the need for soul increase

i feel like its perfect rn

[thick sentinel]

what ||charms|| should i use while fighting ||the lost kin||

[shut sparrow]

||if you have soul at the start make sure to immediately shriek on the left side as soon as you get there.
Then whenever an orb is about to spawn, jump to lead them off screen||

[shut sparrow]

||I'd use strength, qslash, sbody, catcher/twister||

[granite juniper]

Thank you so much that is something I did not know but I only have two masks when I get there

And no soul

[shut sparrow]

are you losing the masks on|| the climb ||or before?

[shut sparrow]

that's alright. ||The shriek at the start is really only a bonus||

[granite juniper]

A few only died once there and have like 30 attempts

[shut sparrow]

||https://youtu.be/NuF9iIqP8wo?si=wtu9f2yzVelTse23||
this video shows how to deal with the ||final phase||

[granite juniper]

And before the climb

[covert olive]

this is for non senf only, i dont advise anyone to click this since its heavy spoilers

this is my progress

[shut sparrow]

looks good

[covert olive]

im gonna finish the rest after i wake up

i really gotta go sleep now

[shut sparrow]

good night!!

[covert olive]

and after all of those are ||ascended|| then i will grind ||p5|| (my pb is ||hornet sentinel cuz i panicked||

gn

[shut sparrow]

||I mean hornet isn't that easy||

[covert olive]

||zote|| will sing me a lullaby

[rotund ermine]

any tips for ||lost kin||

or charms

[brazen flower]

||is there a way to get hornet sentinel in godhome?||

[wide shore]

||Hit the statues of hornet||

[brazen flower]

In the hallway?