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no thats the final boss
no, its ||the hollow knight||
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what should i do here
come back with another ability
|| is it safe to sell wanderers journal and hollownest seal, any uses?||
git gud
if you have ||map markers|| this is a good place to use one
too early for this one, for now go somewhere else
theyre useless
selling, thats it
sell them
||down left of fungal wastes||
you need to find a different way out
keep exploring the area
keep exploring until you find somewhere you can go
should i try to get all the ||grubs|| before or after i beat ||the hollow knight||
up to you
am i able to still play on that save file if i get an ending?
yes
top left
is there only one ||bank|| total
right of fountain needs to be unlocked some other wa
yeah
its very trustworthy
fr?
no
?tag uncspoilers
š¹ An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they havenāt found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a playerās experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where theyāve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.
again
don't spoil stuff
š
goat
its a fair warning
no
no, it's a spoiler and it's against the rules
It is not, don't do it again.
thats so sus wtf
|| i now bet hornet, what is the next thing i should do? ||
use your new ability somewhere in ||crossroad||
go look
why do you want them to go that way?
theres multiple options
i didnt explore that place yet
you did, thats the area under ||dirtmouth||
||greenpath -> fog -> queens station -> fungal||
isnt that the only area availoble to them rn
ah ok in my language its called diffrent yes i were there
it isnt
||fog is a bit of a tricky area||
dont want him to die
I disagree, but either way its an option
theyre playing hollow knight, what do you expect
i wouldnt want to go there without a ||health upgrade||
fair enough
the area on the way to ||queens|| is very easy
when i die and die again without getting my soul what happens then?
they cant get to the hard parts until later
you los ethe money
you lose all your geo
lose all the money in your soul forever
||how many % completion do you guys have|| if you havent beaten the game dont look
it's a very fair recommendation imo
|| i need to farm geo, whats the best spot for a PRETTY ish new person? i need it for unbreakable strength, simple key, and the lumafly lantern ||
damn that was like 600
is ||nosk|| required to beat the game
Theres 1 room in ||City of Tears|| with that bigahh ||Golden Boss guy(forgor name)|| and there the smol guys give pretty good ammount of ||geo|| tbh.
in ||greenpath there are 2 moss knights, dropping 40 each next to a stag station||
||send spoilered map screenshot||
No but you can get a ||pale ore for a nail upgrade||
no
No but hes required for a ||Pantheon...Pretty sure P2||
one second
What percentage does each ||charm give?||
whats going on with these guys
<@&283547423706447872> I think its 1 of those spam bots again
||their dad will pay you||
Their dad is in ||crossroads|| and he pays you for saving them
and eat them
how to spoiler attachment
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who got the full list of this
i saw a room with lots of them but there were no || dad ||
Fam i think he meant like expanded/zoomed in
wait what is the mask
What room?
wait i go ther rq
Black one? Its the ||Black Egg Temple||
Where ||The Hollow Knight is sealed||
Itās where ||the hollow knight|| is, you have it because you looked at the fountain in ||city||
||killing white defender another time gives me something?||
tbh you're probably best off just exploring/progressing right now
No, but killing him 5 times gives lore
Tips on beating ||watcher knights||
and it scales the difficulty each time? because this 2nd time it deals 2 masks of damage, it could be a good challenge idk
Yes
wait.. i can || fight the hollow knight? ||
@safe hedge
||Once you kill/dream nail/Undo the sealing on all 3 Dreamers, yes||
thousands of geo still available from deposits/bosses/exploring
get rich without boring yourself to death farming in the same 2 rooms
its how you get ||some endings||
Most of them.
please don't spoil things
how to get || dream nail? ||
The guy ||is in the Resting Grounds||
||go to the shrine in resting grounds||
The big one in the middle is the dad
just explore and play the game. You'll unlock and find stuff by exploring and progressing
spoil it btwšāļø
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mb
This guy
i see he dropped some currency
Yeah he pays you
He does for every ||grub|| you rescue
fast theme switch. When can i open this door?
key
Thereās a chandelier in the room above to take out the first one
U js need a ||simple key||
Anytime basically
Unless you die in hard to reach places donāt do it
@true mural and @fallow oracle this is very important. Even if a question is asked, if it's likely they aren't even close to getting to the part of the game, there is no reason to spoil it. If they really want the spoiler, they will ask again.
What does that even do
i got it very early in the game
on accident
Mb fam. Thought he included the how 2 part in the question
yeah but people's playthroughs are different. It's no reason to spoil it
It escalates very quickly
ok thank you
Hey can I tell him how much
If he wants to know
why would you?
Otherwise no
Why shouldnāt he know how much money he could get
if he wants to know, he will ask
don't assume what other people would like to know about the game
Just tell me
How many % do you have
I dunno
Around 7-8 thousand
Wow what could i need that for
Belive me you WILL need it.
idk if you're talking to me but I have fully completed the game
Which he doesnt need to know. Yet
Is there other stuff i can buy then from the map store
Yeah I was
You can buy the pins if you want them
Just donāt buy the hot spring ones
Theyāre very useless
I lost my 600 currency : l
What can I do with that thing at left
You need smt for it to open
if you can't do anything yet, remember it and come back to it whenever you think you might have what you need
Also could you spoiler images next time
I Need to kill the strange boss that look like thƩ Knight ?
no
I done it
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||I actually am searching for double jump is it linked?||
To the door? No
No
Thereās a bench in the middle
Itās nearby
Itās not easy to get to however
I was watching


what should i use my first ||simple key|| on?
||due right of dirtmouth or somewere else||
||to buy the unbreakable charms i need to defeat grimm one time?||
Depends if you die in a lot of hard places to reach
I would suggest the one below ||city of tears||
wdym?
Gives you access to important places
oh does it unlock the ||ghost hting||
Yep.
That. Yes
But i would reccomend what he said
why i can't š ||divine|| keeps saying the same dialogue every time i go talk to her
huh, i think i should do that, unless another one is really important? ive lost like 1.5k geo to deaths
wheres next ||simple key|| and is it ez to get
||did you talk to her while havin one of them equipped?||
All locations are relatively easy tbh
Where did you get your first one from?
||some place in city, sly sells another right? but its kinda costly, should i buy smth else?||
oh i didn't know i had to equip them to make it ||unbreakable||, thanks
Near the ||Stag station ik it.||
Use that ||key|| for the place below ||City of Tears||
As for ||Sly, focus on buying the mask/vessel shards||
||im only 1/4 on mask shard, without the sly one, idek what vessel is||
Any tips for ||mister mushroom||
You dont have the ||vessel shards|| on the shop?
||@tall mulch ||
Aside from the obvious one
what exactly?
||there is a lore tablet you can find that gives hints||
||kingdom's edge bottom right||
Okay ty
theres 1 in shop, havent bought yet bc idk where the rest are, kinda pointless to have just a portion if im not wrong
I can tell u if u want to know
Like where ||quick slash|| is?
||further below iirc||
sure, idm spoilers at all
||is there any mods that remove elder hu from the game?||
Why
Just why
Explain yourself
Are you doing a certain challenge
Theyre basically ||Smol balls which hold soul after your main storage is full. 1 full ball/vessel equals enough soul to heal 1 mask shard||
||p3||
he just wastes my time
hes easy af
He takes 30 seconds
i nohit him
ahh how many to complete 1
for you
Heās not ||vengefly king||
please don't ask whether someone wants to know something. Again, if someone has a question, they will ask
Top tip
Same as ||the Masks. 3 shards=1 vessel/ball||
Donāt spell
What no
WHY NOT
Thatās wrong
isnt masks 4
Ye it is mb.
I donāt really pay attention to him
This is not true
it has nothing to do with your ||spell usage||
I love empirical evidence
|| 3 shards is 1 vessel. Mb for earlier||
Iām sure thereās a condition
||whats a good charm build for col 2 not including unb strength||
for what
Him not to teleport everywhere
no prob, i think i can get 4 wait hang on
not sure if i can get 3 for other shard tho
you mean his long attack?
Thats what you call rng
The one where he goes off screen
Oh yeah thanks for reminding me
Ok...? Anything u want help with there?
||Path of pain?||
yes
Spoiler tags
Itās very fun
||whats a good charm build for col 2 not including unb strength||
oh cmon
||Quick focus, shaman stone, quick slash ||
||Nail masters glory, shaman stone, spell twister||
Those are the best I can give you
ive been this acronomy for over a long time
that's just random
No ||quick focus?||
||what else i have 11 notches||
Well it was not allowed all that time
||i dont have quick focus š ||
Buy it itās very good
how does the ||second ghost|| thingy to left of ||dirtmouth|| work
It saved my ||trial 3||
Idk like|| mark of pride||
yeah I will then
Its top tier
Be a bit more Specific..
Great survivability value
||ill do trial 1 get some geo then go get it and dream gate back to col||
It works anywhere, but ||colo|| is best
right* sorry || the simple key locked location||
Oh the locked door.
||Flukemarm|| is so fucking annoying i hate it RAAAAAAAAAAH. Anyways, got any tips for this poor excuse of a boss fight?
Yes
Show inventory pls
||how many hits do the flukes take to kill?||
Basicslly inside ||is a guy called Jiji|| who can ||summon your shade if you died|| if you give him a ||rancid egg||
oh nice, is there a way to get unlimited ||eggs||
Get better ||nail||
or are they limited
Iām so cooked
The little bastards that ||spawn out of the Flukemarm and fly around chasing you||? For me it takes only ||one hit||.
there is a way
?
I got no idea. ||Sly sells them but idk if its unlimited||
ok its worth getting this then i think, nice
Okay then I would suggest attacking them from above
||Mender bug|| hasnāt spawned and I went there like fifty times already
You can get them around the world too btw
They are unlimited but not for free
||use a lot of spells then. And only try to heal if you just removed the flukes and no new ones are coming soon||
||they all cost money though||
uhh how much geo
Thats how statistics work
Really? I thought ||tuk|| only sold you 21
I think he means ||Sly||
Also you can get many egg without having to pay
80-100
That's the thing tho. ||They spawn every three seconds||.
nah that guy has only 1 if im not wrong
oh nice
no, they sell unlimited
What spell do you own
they don't
If you hear a heartbeat sound almost always thereās one egg monster nearby
Itās every 6?
||You can buy infinite, but you cant buy more if you hold 80||
I forgot what itās called
||Bluggsac||
Yea
||this is a good build for grimm?||
They given one egg when defeated
@tall mulch ā¬ļø
three seconds gives you a lot of time
||Shaman stone?||
Have fun with them
Oof
nice then, opened whatever that is
||Soul Sanctum is mad annyoing||
Do you need help? This isnt a commentating channel
im v skill issued
||Abilities||? I have ||Shade Soul||, ||Descending Dark||,||Focus(obviously)||.
ill def need that
that can be an option but i think the soul can be a problem idk her pattern too much
He does have a point national..
||I recommend removing sharp shadow. Heart is also not great but at least better than sharp shadow. Instead use something like qslash and sbody or shaman stone and soul catcher by removing grubsong as well. There are many options||
Please spoiler tag this
Itās male (I think)
Either go big or go home. Or pay ||Jiji||
||im at like city of tears kinda progression, whats my best geo farm, or is there one nearly||
alr i totally forgot about ||sbody||, thanks
Just use ||ddark|| on the ||flukes||
Best way
did you unlock ||kings station||
Theres 1 room in there which has a lot of those lil ||servants/civilians idk their name||. U can farm those
||Moss knights near hornet battle is fine||
shaw
Iām pretty sure those are in ||watcher spire||
You shouldnt mention new people things they might not know about
Which is pretty later game
Nope.
||I mean, there are certainly bosses where it's more useful. I might even recommend replacing steady body and grubsong with catcher even if you use qslash.
Still, steady body is pretty much always nice to have||
the same thing did someone else with mentioning the civilians they probably mean ||gluttonous husk and those others||
Yeah they shouldnt say that either
If everyone who has this channel has the other hk channels why is this one spoiler and the other one isnāt
I can show you the location if you want @tall mulch
You have free will to not enter those channels
It's not like you are forced in others
What if you click on it and see the most recent image that is posted ther (go look)
||they likely haven't accessed that part of the city|| yet
A new person who wants to avoid spoilers doesnt do that
What if you didnāt know
nope
He said hes in ||City of tears kind of progression(literally his own words)||
||i didn't put qslash there because in the first tries i fight grimm i couldn't hit he for that long, maybe is skill issue||
You would if you read #rules-and-info
||the right side of the city requires you to enter it from an entirely different side. Which they likely haven't done yet||
It says ādiscussions about hollow knightā
what that? first ||hornet|| batle?
Fr? _? I entered from ||Fungal Wastes at the big statue|| on my playtrough
And i didnt need no other entrance
Neither did i see any
Pretty safe to assume you don't need spoiler tags there
the boss is difficult. So it's normal to struggle. ||I'd use shaman stone and soul catcher then. If you don't find any windows to use spells, soul catcher and heart also works ig||
Haha, wait until
Anyhow this is a useless hypothetical, we won't change anything for the very niche situation you crafted so carefully
So lets move on
||Yeah im not sure if thats the fastest at this point but thats the best spot right after hornet at least iirc so it isnt probably too bad||
||yes, you can enter the city that way. But the part with the rich people is locked off and only accessible from kingdom's edge, resting grounds or royal waterways||
What charms did you guys use for ||pantheon of the knight,||(gods and glory dlc spoiler btw)
I want to know if Iām different
||strength, qslash, sbody, shaman stone, grubsong||
Ive been advised not to answer that
You really like ||sbody||
it's good
I used ||heart||
Helped me a lot with the end
you really like mid charms
Finished on one hp
||yes i'm going to try soul catcher and heart if i still struggle with it i'm going to use shawman, thanks||
Itās quite useful, especially for certain boss fights
good luck 
I use it a lot as well
whats there to the right of this? idr if i did this earlier
But for ||p4||
Reward
You can find out by going there
Show the zoomed map fam
||does void heart/king soul count towards 112%||
.. what exactly
it's good for every boss 
Every charm does
||turning it into voidheart doesn't give %, but getting kingsoul does||
which, wanna check if i have
||Fury||
i did it. didnt play the whole day and got it on my 3rd try after i came back, the ||shade soul|| is officially mine
||whats considered the real way to 112%||
ok i have it nice
Wdym
wdym
-# ok imma go sleep
Astute observation
||there is only one way||
Neither of those things count for 112
lol
You need every charm, and every ||pantheon|| not 5
Oh yeah ||max nail|| too
Plus all upgrades
is there a specific point at which i should explore ||howling cliffs||
is it hard
please tag this
No
which question is that a reply to-
can you add this @acoustic sigil
damn

Just got ||DDark and CDash||.
with enough willpower, anything is possible
Yay good job
i know the ||cdash|| but whats the ||d dark||
Show your inventory quickly..
curiosity got the best of me, i think ill leave
Itās ok
Just donāt google it or anything
yeye ik
i was wondering if there is some kind of way to ||wall climb/jump||, because i am finding some parts of the map difficult to navigate, specifically ||fungal wastes||. i was also wondering, is there a way to|| double jump? because i am trying to use the springy pink mushrooms in fungal wastes but they dont seem to be propelling me high enough for me to get into other areas||. sorry if my questions arent properly formatted or anything, never used this channel before
Okay
Thereās an area
You wanna be spoiled, or..?
With an item
explore the game
your questions will be answered
At the bottom of ||fungal||
oh
and pth pain
Itās optional
bypassing the bot..,.,.,.,.,..,
who
||down slash on the mushrooms||
i didn't even see that he was talking about ||the pink mushrooms too||
||that means down + attack in the air||
it's a very common place people get stuck
yeah
which of these is easiest/first to get
not the wiki š
I beat the ||Flukemarm|| boss by spamming ||Shade Soul|| lmao
any of them that aren't ||seer, guardian and grey mourner||
whats wrong with it smh
you're spoiling yourself unless i mean you're liek almost done with rhe game
looking for the rest of the %
imo looking up guides and stuff kind of defeats the purpose and is a lot less fun. But you do you
mm true, i usually dont, just got a really bad urge to see if im in a position to get 4 more ||shards, to get another mask||
I only look up guides when im lost tbh. When I know what I'm doing I don't bother using guides.The surprise mini bosses and bosses are the fun part imo.
Yes the bot still works thanks for testing it
ah
im gonna test it again for good measure
||guys the last percentage I need for 112% is pantheons||
yeah it sure works
imo, like never look up anything. The game tells you things whenever it wants you to know stuff. If you want the best experience just play blind
if its 4 remaining yeah
true true
Where do I go after getting ||CDash and DDark||? I kinda forgot..
have fun
I will
where theres stuff you dont have
fall ||on that place near ddark if you didnt||
||cdash || can help in ||waterways||
Alright, Iāll hunt for a ||Simple Key||.
Did u get the ||City of tear's simple key||?
No, Iām heading there now.
what equipment you have
||Uhh 2nd best nail like 50% of charms||
okay um are you good at pogos
please spoiler tag this as well
do not ask that
Oh mb
that's unnecessary spoilers
ask for inventory/charms screenshot
so you wont spoil them about something they dont have
I should have thought of that
maybe
||when he goes for cut into uppercut you can pogo then turnaround nail swing for two hits||
and it sets up rest of dodge
Oh thats effecient
In ||Royal Waterways|| now.
About to fight ||BAA HUNDAA||.
he says robux
life is roblox
Goated
Ty!
||if he dives at you in corner or if you are just very precise you can get two pogos (by dashing)||
you can also ||pogo the pufferfish which keeps you safe and makes it easy to hit him as he is leaving the thing||
||if you go too near him when hes firing bats he teleports but again there is enough space to pogo the cloak without that happening which keeps you safe and hits him||
basically ||POGOS||
||so i should nail build?||
i do yes
but there is argument for ||spells (damage, going through pufferfish invincibility ) at the cost of healing||
you can both heal and use ||spells||
in fact, it's always bad to remove healing from your strat
||but you can do it less||
||hitless boss fights and speedrunning or just when there is very little time to heal||
||ideally, with a spell build, you should also have enough soul charms that you'll have enough for both||
||BAAA HUNDAAA|| first try lets goo!
a ||soul and spell build is different|| if you have limited ||notches|| especially
||when I'm saying "it's bad" I'm of course not referring to "it's slow" bur rather "it makes it more difficult".
Also, even if a boss has very little healing opportunities, it's never good to stop healing. There's only 2 exceptions I can think of||
no, not really
unless you have, 3
||never and two exceptions are different||
that's why I mentioned them
you start with ||3||
Hi guys
you said it is always bad
I corrected myself. Either way the two exceptions are very small and completely irrelevant here
Sooo, how I do ||prince gray zote|| consistantly, I wanna beat ||pantheon 3|| but HE. KEEPS. KILLING. ME. (if I spoilered smth wrong lemme know, first time chatting)
hello
||are you practicing the fight in the hall of gods?||
No
what are you struggling with specifically?
I beat it some of them
I can do it out of context, but in context I die
if you are expecting helpful advice, you'll also need to give helpful answers
||do him until ascended is consistent then youll have no problems||
read
It's just hard for me to tell, It feels like I take damage too often to his attacks because predicting is so hard for him
do you know any attacks you specifically struggle with?
I use ||unbreakable heart|| too
wouldn't recommend that
||keep your shade dash for dodging the off screen||
||unbreakable strength?||
yes
Ahhh
||for an entire build I recommend strength, qslash, steady body, shaman stone, grubsong||
For the ||volatile zotelings|| he always, always gets me either with those, or his ||stupid flail the nail||
||its (1.5*faster compared to roughly 1.3 times longer survival if you don't use spells or heal)||
||DDark||
I usually use ||strengh and shawman stone, how would steady body help||
I suck at using ||shade dash||
||MoP gives more time to reacct to walking forward though||
What's ||MoP? mark of pride? Cause that's my favorite charm||
You have good taste i see
mine too
||as general advice for the fight:
- whenever he falls through the ground and then comes from above, just stand still and time a dive to dodge it. Directly afterwards you'll even have time to hit him to get back soul.
- whenever he summons the exploding zotes, use dive right before they explore do make sure you dodge them and any attacks that might happen simultaneously
- whenever he runs around with his sword, you can technically pogo but it's risky. A lot safer (and what U would recommend) is just staying on a wall
- remove his minions as quickly as possible
- use spells for damage if you have access soul (but make sure to keep some for dive)
- use dive whenever you're in the air and don't know how to get down or g
just generally when you're in a tricky situation you want to get out of||
it's not great
||mantis lords|| was the first boss I struggled with, but I've done them on ||radient|| now
||Ismaās|| is now mine!!
Yuhhhh
great there are many places to go now : ) though i guess there always is with HK
it works in many situations and is more helpful than people realise
Cole rapaziada
Como é q ocs tão??
||steady body is pretty much always helpful. On its own it just lowers the amount of inputs you have to do. What doesn't seem like a lot at first, actually has a pretty big impact on your ability to move around and react to attacks.
Additionally it pretty much always increases your dps in some way because you can just stay closer to bosses for longer. With bosses that move away from you/take knockback especially.
Lastly, you don't get pushed back into attacks or other damage sources||
Ta dboa zz?
I will say, I struggle with the ||dive||, as it feels like such a short time to regain yourself
||it is extremely helpful, but it costs a lot and just gets outclassed by other charms for the same cost that increase your damage||
Responde zz
||you can combine it with a shade dash or jump afterwards to get out of there||
what
||Chat i accidentally found galien, should I try and fight him š||
It has a lot of iframes so you get more time than you think
this server is English only
To perguntando se tu ta dboa
Ata sabia nn
please only speak English here
Hm
Ok
||okay but it can defend you a lot better though its not the best at anything it is multipurpose||
I feel like I've tried, only to get hit immediently ||dung denfender has done that several times for me||
||Anyone have any tips for defeat soul master?||
indeed, it can be helpful in many situations. But when someone is asking for a good build for something specific, I'm going to recommend the best charms, not the most versatile
it takes a lot of practice
but you'll get better with time
My save is 100 hours
||This is one of the times its good pogo the sword swings more time to react to walking forward||
Tips on ||watching knights||
||whenever he shoots orbs that follow you, dash underneath them. Don't jump over them.
When he flies across the arena with orbs around him, heal in the middle when the orbs come back||
it is good. Still, ||shaman is better imo||
or ||qfocus||
My usual build for ||P3 is Mop, shawman stone, spell twister, and unbreakable heart though I've also done longnail and unbreakable strengh (Instead of mark of pride and hearts)||
Thanks
||they don't attack unless they are on screen. So you can heal whenever both roll off screen since they will slowly walk back before they can attack again giving you time to heal.
Also use a lot of spells||
||survivability and soul compared to less healing but more damage when surviving is the issue i definitely disagree on that||
I'm very sorry
Ty
not sure about ||qfocus though|| should try it out
||mark of pride|| is by far my favorite charm but yeah it very much gets outclassed by other ||3-notch charms|| lol
||Always have eyes on both knights the entire time, and Learn their tells on which attack they do. Getting a better idea of where each is and what they will do gives you a better advantage on dodging them. Aside from attacks, using desolate dive/ddark gives you Iframes and damage which is very useful, and directing spells to hit them both is useful.||
You're pfp is so cute
Yeah its outclassed most bosses but i will die by its side even on the impossible modded boss (version one)
||surviving is always the issue. No matter what. That is no argument. Defeating a boss quicker also results in you having a greater chance of surviving the boss||
i wish i could say the same about yours :3
you're pfp
I think it's cute ||that is a lie||
me?
yes you are
||yes but this is pantheons a build that increases chance of being able to survive without taking much damage is better as there are more bosses||
||it doesn't matter that there are more bosses, since you have more chances to recover too||
that pfp is cute
how do i get to the ||pantheon||
no it definitely does when comparing ||damage to longterm survivability as longterm survivability is more likely to finish a boss with more or equal health||
||no? taking 1.5x as long to die and ending the fight in 2/3 of the time are the same for any fight length, for example||
but thats not what happens
?
not too hard
guys how do i get to the ||pantheons||
idk how to answer that more rigorously though
how far have you gotten
||its like if your fighting a boss that hits you 14 times you could end the fight on one health either way but against the next boss which for example deals one more damage than you heal. The survivability build will let you heal more than you get hit but the damage build will make no difference at best||
that help?
guys i just killed ||soul master|| which region do i go to now
Simply put a ||survivability build lets you fight forever a damage build doesn't||
Guys, what is the modding thing called?
U should learn portuguese
||lumafly|| or scarab
š
guys i just killed ||soul master|| which region do i go to now
why would I
Ty, i saw you earlier.
||dream nail the soul master, that will tell you where to go next, and it will give you some fighting practice||
i mean i see what you're trying to say but you seem to be assuming that the player with the ||survivability build is more competent than you should probably assume and that fights last forever when there's plenty of downtime between them to recover||
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i don't have ||dream nail||
also was that satire
||Mantis lords||
What why am I assuming that
i killed them
It's like true no matter the skill level
Well, ||soul master gave you a new ability. Perhaps if you remember any areas with the sound of a shaky ground you could find it again||
if you're near a level of net zero or positive hp change you're already making it through either way
that little bit won't put you over the edge
go through the door and explore there
you also can't play optimally forever
can you circle a picture of the map
ending the fight faster counteracts that
No cause survivability build causes the NetZero change
they were not serious I assume. It's Definitely not what you need to do
not if you weren't already close to it
oh so what do i do
||explore older areas again. Whenever you get a new ability it always unlocks paths in older places. Crossroads for example has stuff||
|| how do I get the grub by the white lady ||
If you are already taking a lot of damage you are taking too long to survive||pantheons anyway||
a path from far below
but what's the next main region i should go to
||crossroads||
Bruh
around about where? ||crystal peaks||?
where do i go for ||pantheons,|| i have ||vengeful spirit, mantis claw, crystal heart, monarch wings, ismas tear, shade cloak, kings brand, and descending dark, as well as all but the hive for the map||
i can't because i got there on my xbox ||when the door opens because you beat the mantis lords just go through it||
yes, have you been there?
Guys how to mark smt
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||royal waterways||
no not yet, but for my abilities i have:
||the fireball spell, descending spell, mantis claw, dash, the upgraded nail|| is that enough to go there
Guys how do i mark smt
im there rn, now what
use these marks || at the end and start of your message
||yeah then I'd go there now, if you don't want to explore optional areas first||
|| hi ||
where other areas that are optional? can you circle it
the big room below the bench in the center
on a map
i mean yes but that's just saying the build will help you only if you're good enough for it to help you
now what
if you start to take improvement into account then survivability starts to fall off because eventually you'll cross that barrier anyways
||there aren't any whole areas behind breakable floors that are optional. I was mainly just talking about taking a look at your map of older areas again and seeing if you'll find new stuff. The less you'll do that, the harder the game gets.
If you feel prepared enough, feel free to move on tho||
How to mark a picture
how do i deal with these stupid fucking ||crystal hunters||
@chrome bear
ohhh like where the maps cut off
yes!
No I'm saying it is better if your close enough to winning that it works and that the skill floor for it working is lower decrease requirement for NetZero goal
Guys is this the best mod skin
||sure. Idk if there's something there you haven't explored yet but feel free to check. Again if you feel ready you can also do peak first||
So does damage cause if your across that barrier you'll win anyway
okay but will the ||crossroads get infected when i get the crystal dash||
this isn't a meme channel
no
when does that happen
but then they're both safety nets against mistakes
Ive js started playing hk today btw
idk how much of the game you know. Are you sure you don't want to find that out on your own?
oh okay good point
|| how much money do I have to give to the bank lady till she runs away ||
2550
Do I get more back?
And in long fights survivability is more effective as it can extend your life more by making you have NetZero than damage which is stuck at the multiplier it has
yes. So it's best to give as much as possible, to get the biggest bonus
so 4.5k is best
If your in the range of close to being NetZero in a long fight survivability is a win damage wise often not.
but now you're just assuming that the player will reach a net zero forever with it equipped again?
i don't think this is going anywhere and i have stuff to do so im just stopping this here
I have 9k should I give it all?
||you can only give her 4.5k||
ok i do agree with that
i meant for longer fights in general
imo ||mark of pride|| doesn't increase your survivability more than ||shaman stone|| does
assuming your're using ||spells||
||Anyone know what this room is for ||
lore
Thank you
Thats the entire point they'll reach a net zero which you haven't disputed. There is a range of how much damage they take where survivability is win damage is not so for longer fights survivability is better all your arguments are what if they are good enough to win anyway or what if they are too bad to ever win in which case build doesn't matter as outcome is decided
guys
explore
ok
i defeated ||Nightmare Grimm|| but now ||the troupe is gone||
yeah
how do i ||get them back|||?
Why you want em
Fight again and ||get that one charm||
Uhh you don't get it and to fight again there is a place
you can only get one, either ||grimmchild upgrade or the other charm, but dont worry as both suck||
||you're assuming someone using a damage build doesn't also heal. With a damage build you get to easier parts of a long challenge more quickly while still being able to heal during those harder parts||
True!
dude i need the 112%, does the ||charm counts||?
ye
The ||Mop|| argument still going on? Lol
||its one or the other||
you can still get 112
so im cooked?
ah i didn't read your other messages
just buy it back
there's no other way
@vagrant iron wait
are you talking about ||grimmchild and carefree melody||
yea
ah any of those count towards it
Which one did you get
i thought u gave ||divine a fragile charm||
Yeah either one counts, hollow knight would never do such a thing
but can i get ||the other one|| in the same save?
no
Nope
||Got the tram pass|| : D
so i have to do everything i did but onm another save?
No I'm saying they are less likely to reach net zero and that the easy part would also end faster giving less time to heal. Resulting in the average heals to damage being the same as no build
yeah
Congrats, but this isn't a commentating channel
damn
am i where i should be?
For what
||pantheons||
Ye
That's at the blue marker
ok
Also clippy is based pfp
||how do i get simple key||
did u do everything in the game
||What charms should I run for hornet 2 fight||
since like theres no reason to do the ||pantheons if u didnt||
yeah i think i did
||quick slash, shaman, steady body||
||did u get the simple key on colloseum||
what charms for ||hollow knight||
you can get a ||simple key|| at the ||colloseum?||
yes
i need help
is there something i can get that lets me ||swim in the toxic water||?
where do i get it
||ismas tear||
looks like i gotta go there then
with what
||ismas tear||
Somewhere that looks really gross
what charms should i use for the ||hollow knight||
show your charms
guys does the ||Nightmare Grimm|| gives ||essence||?
you can't
How to get huzz chat
||quick slash, shaman, steady||
Whatās a good charm build for ||colosseum of fools trail 3 ||
so i got absolutely nothing ?
show your charmmss
just the achievement
Better ||grimchild||
well ||your grimmchild got upgraded but it sucks anyways||
dude i don't even use this thing
and ||divine is permanently in dirthmouth||
You get an ||upgrade to grimm child and bragging rights||
ok just replace ||heavy blow with steady and something orrr spell twister||
thats the only bad thing there
Well you donāt want to use ||heavy blow||
W build?( Is at ||hollow knight|| rn
at least that
You love your ||steady body don't you||
||remove shaman||
Thank you


Too op get rid of ||compass to make the fight fair||
wait how do u get 112% in a save but u can't get ||both rewards from Grimm Nightmare||?
||defender crest and dashmaster are right there bro||
Ignore one
because both gives 1% regardless
You don't need both, either one gives a %
Could || long nail work ||
eh it doesn't help a lot
I preffer ||carefree melodie||
so nvm
If you really wanted
ig im good then
same but didn't knew this mechanic
no my point is that survivability (blue) vs damage (red) might look something like this but you're only focusing on the region where survivability is better and saying that represents long fights as a whole
Both are ass so
With really good RNG its op
Why are we sending graphs in hk-help
Still better than ||sharp shadow|| ig
Not really
idk how else to get the point across
But that's free damage
(this is a joke)
Better be.
Also || what do I use my geo on all the shops at dirt mouth are empty and idk what to do with it ||
Have you done anything with|| the grimm troupe ||
I have no idea how to unlock them š
||breakable wall in howling cliffs||
Can you send an image of your inventory and map
Ah crap
Ok but beyond that point where they cross they will win either way once battle is long enough
i think i did :(
what about the one in ||ancient basin||
unsure
should be it then
where on the map is it
since the other 2 are ||sly and city||
its on the path to ||broken vessel||
||Look around in howling cliffs. if you want something more specific, can you send that map specifically so I can mark on it||
i forgot where he was
Will do thankyou
i have noticed a few of these ||unstable/wobbly floors in some areas of the game. is there something that i need in order to make them cave in?||
No problem
You will get an ability later in the game š
You will get ||desolate dive|| later in ||city of tears||
ah i see thank you !!
defeat the ||soul master|| he'll give you an ability
y'all it was a yes or no question š
I answered it like a yes š
And didnāt give spoilers
Whoo hoo thank you
also i got the ||simple key|| in ||ancient basin||
huh
am i forgetting one
||sly
city
ancient basin
colloseum||
hmm
@wary anchor @fallow nimbus Don't add more details than what they ask for
Gotcha
ok mb
Sorry
mb gng
let me use wiki i guess
should i resort to bench warp mod?
||No there are only 4 keys||
Why?
bc im getting tired of looking for this damn key
@fallow nimbus uhm did you really get ||the simple key in collosseum? did u kill pale lurker||
tf is ||pale lurker||
Iām kinda stuck here in ||path of pain and I donāt want to restart. I have longnail equipped nail so it wonāt let me pogo on the raised platform on the right side of the screen. ||
You need to time it right
yeah you didnt get it there then
š
you told me you got it!!!!
I had ||mop|| and its possible
how do i fight it
Even with the charm?
||Hornet Sentinal, when she has the spikes, do I focus on the spikes first, or keep doing damage and deal with the spikes when I can||
You have to wait longer
just go to the right of the bench
And not spam pogo
||try to get all the spikes to one side of the arena||
Iāll try some more ig
||like, have them spawn on that side or deal with them all on one side||
oh cool
keeeeeeeeey
Peak pfp
Clear one side and stay on that side
She only spawns 8
Thx
ohhhhh
That was all you have to do is dodge and strike
||Should I focus on trying to do radient, cause in p3 zote wrecks me and I barely had health getting to her, but I've done acended already||
Makes sense, and also not panicing would be good
OH MY FINALLY I BEAT ||TRAITOR LORD||
LET'S GOOOOO
GOOD JOB
WHY DID THE ||PALE LURKER|| SOUND LIKE ALVIN
how do i get past the ||weird black shadow pillars||?
you need a special ability in ||the abyss||
send a screenshot of your inventory
where is that
below the ||ancient basin||
saying "special ability" and then saying an area name....
š
are u like in ||fog canyon||
ty
the start of the game
||kingdom's edge||
how can i kill these fuckers i never struggled in a boss in this game until these. i dont like it at all is there something i am missing? how many times should i kill them
