#hk-help
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Even if you do it’s not easy
It takes practice
|| royal waterways also has some dark rooms iirc ||
inreresting ill keep that in mind thanks 🙂
Normal ||deepnest|| is not nearly as nightmarish as I thought ngl
|| then peaks has them too ||
That’s why I was asking
Is ||lumafly lantern|| necessary to get ||dream nail||
||dark deepnest isn't nightmarish it's just. difficult||
No
Nothing
Lot of spoilers stuff
But heavily recommended
Like the game is almost impossible without it
but otherwise to make your life much easier
Do I need to kill that boss for main ending
no
Ok then
You can avoid both of those
nope
Not 100% necessary but game becomes almost impossible if ur a new player
||you cannot attempt no eyes without lantern||
I am a new player
Darn
She doesn’t give percentage does she
If u plan on getting stuff
She does
she does, she's also required for ||unlocking p4 which is another %||
Oh ok
is she a journal entry ?
||oh one more thing I take it I need some kind of power/ ability to get the fog canyon map right? Ive not actually explored it at all really since I dont have the map yet||
||I can reload my save to do both endings with voidheart right?||
and also gates one ||mask shard, another %||
What if I just have really good memory and remember the exact path through a room that’s dark without it
Oh I’m stupid
dont need to reload
Doesn’t block it
U can but like I said almost impossible
Ok
does she not? mb then
||how do i kill the big fat red knights with shield they are so slow and block everything||
||spells!||
Red knights?
||the big ones in city||
Wait until it’s abt to attack, then hit and run
How long would it take me to get ||dream nail|| without it
||royal great husks or whatever they're called||
Those aren't red lol
no the really big ones
they have a red element
same amount of time
|| u don't need lantern for dreamnail ||
But to complete the game u do
everything is grey so gotta use the thing thats different i can't remember names
Even for the normal way
||where do i explore next? Continue on with kingdoms edge?||
You do
just anywhere on the map that's incomplete :)
There’s like the dark room that you have to go through
No u don't
but yeah ||KE is a good place||
Which one
No you need ||crystal heart only||.
You don’t need ||lantern|| to go through dark rooms
Oh
i think they're talking about ||getting through resting grounds through ddark dark room and falling down
which is a lil silly but sure
||
Even like the really dark ones that you can’t see anything but yourself in
Nope
||just use crystal heart above the gruz mommy||
or rather i should put it
it might be perhaps possible they are referring to that, albeit unlikely
||I wouldn't suggest to a new player to skip lantern ||
Yeah
I need 15k geo
Game become almost impossible
Problem is
or go through ||right side city||
Howww
uhh ||hopper farm KE, or colo 2||
or the ultra forbidden extra broken geo farm which is nearly impossible to get to
so i wont say it
||I take it I need some kind of power/ ability to get the fog canyon map right? Ive not actually explored it at all really since I dont have the map yet||
||are most skips intentional||
Pls
no
no like it's actually nearly impossible, it's very weird out of bounds stuff and... basically not worth it
Where tf is it
Pls
||also in kingdom's edge||
I need that cash
no like genuinely you'll spend more time getting there than grinding out 15k 
Nah ok i need inf cashey
I don't even know which farm he's talking abt
no ya dont
go farm through normal means
i'll dm it to ya if that's alright
||i got up here by jumping on a statue thing conviently placed below the place too tall for a jump like that's gotta be intentional||
||gpz huh?
one might say i know a lil bit about that boss||
Stop dude
that one might be
Sure
Help me out
ignore i ever said anything the farm doesnt exist
i am 
the best way for you to get the geo is ||farming hoppers in kingdom's edge or going to colo||
Please man
Ok
Ill take your first child

How do you zot3 in P 3
you could also just use spoiler tags 
do you want a full breakdown of the boss, or would you like specific attacks
i suppose it doesnt matter...
?
anyway i'll just link a document, it has strats for every boss, just scroll down to the relevant section
no
||dang it i still can't defeat markoth||
need tips or
||https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dMk4YLi9DaXfh0xdGqXM2BnYhg_RgaPk5tkZv-xmfKs/edit?usp=sharing||
I'm legitimately stuck on || Watcher Knights and it's the last Dreamer any tips or tricks || ?
got to ||abs radiance|| again my heart is racing gotta rest for a while lol
send your inventory
||abs|| 🤤
what ||spells do you have?||

😭 yummy tho 😋
@robust trail all
spam ||ddark|| then
real
It's late game I'll send it shortly
||use your dive spell a lot more, try doing it from right above them||
it's a lot of damage
similarly use ||fireball a lot||
||and use the shaman charm||
should i try it again and die for the 7th time or smthing im not ready lol
you died 6 times and you wanna die for 7th time?
duh
6 7 🤤
bruh
|| So D Dive and Shaman stone and what else || ?
alr brb
||nothing else much, just keep trying. maybe use other soul related charms if you have any||
||genuinely checked one by one my entire hunter journal against the official HK wiki journal entries and i have every single required entry but my count is still at 160/161 and i cant claim the hunter's mark, please help 💔. spoiler bot fucking sucks bruh stfu 😭 ||
the ||journal.. lies a bit sometimes||
there are ||some entries that aren't required for hunter's mark||
there are a few commonly missed ones, i'll just pull them up. check if you have them all
That's evil
Commonly missed by zenonira
||• Goam
• Mossy Vagabond
• Aluba
• Charged Lumafly
• Gorgeous Husk
• Crystal Crawler
• Garpede
• Pale Lurker
• Flukemunga
• Void Tendrils
• Durandoo
• Duranda
• Maggot
||
Check if you have all these.
i DO 😭
getting a friend who has like 400 hours to show me his journal to compare to lol
yay died again
Idk why but for some reason Watcher Knights give me issue lol
they're tough
and why is that not spoilered
by bot
who manages the bot again guh
||abt to fight grimm what charms should i bring||
Oh I didn't notice that lol
soul or nail build?
@buoyant elbow bestie can you look into that pls ty,,,
Hey man thanks a lot btw i did It in only 2 tries with this help
Ismoil the mod
nail
i will still use ||d dark|| but primaraly nail
Where the hell is the other ||breakable walll!!!!!!!||
||mark of pride quick slash || those two are a need other ones choose on yo mind
Ismoil is mod now?
wait what
@neat karma are you mod wtf
no you're not i've been lied to
i cant believe yis wouldn't put a ? at the end of his sentnece
smh
smh
this good?
yea seems decent tbh
down
do you have any charm build for P 3?
the charms you regularly use
||can someone give me tips for traitor lord|| 😭 🙏
k now time to spend the next 10 hours dieing lol
||is galien the boss in deepnest or is there someone else?||
||shadow cloak|| is a life saver
||I just dropped 2k geo in a random fountain in the ancient basin what did I just do||
||practice just dashing through all his attacks for a while get used to the rhythm||
charms?
well basically
put more
wait so i just ||went to pleasure house and attacked the banker||, and i went back to ||fog canyon to see if she returned||, but she didn't, so now i just can't use the ||bank||??????
||the fountain takes in a certain amount of geo (spoilers, more than 2k) and gives you something in return. dw, the geo you dropped is still stored there||
||why are we speaking in those things||
you cant get it back tho
ok 👍
yes
is the outcome very good tho
no
damn it.
it's meant to be an endgame sink 
bruh team cherry what did i do to deserve this ;-;
can i get charm recommendation for ||traitor lord||??
nothing in particular
everything you usually use
||Ascended absrad||
honestly i just went all ||spell upgrades||
learning the attacks is way more important than charms
what does it give
||one vessel fragment||
damn it.

honestly his attacks are pretty similar to ||mantis lords & hornet|| so just learn the attack patterns and you're good
NO IT IS NOT
my friend says hk is harder then ss
IT IS NOT THE SAME
good for your friend
Depends on what you mean
||bosses hk solos , parkour and mapping ss solos||
if you wanna discuss the difficulty of hk and silksong, go to #hk-general 
okay not the same but half the moves are the same basically just bigger hitboxes
yeah thats true
Here to ask help for ||ascended absrad||
WHY 2 MASKS PER HIT THO
mhm
well i have a link to strats for ||radiant but they obv work for everything so||
here
wait i replied to the wrong message
@cursive dune

tips on the ||radiance||
why in the world is this a sticker again sigh
||normal one?||
it's beautiful
the one in ||hollow knights|| mind
alr
swing your nail
I just lost ||1.6k geo in crystal peak||
basically you wanna use ||your spells a lot, particularly shriek in first phase, and in second phase try using dive and spamming nail when you're on the same platform as her. big damage||
F
Can i do ||ascended absrad without shaman stone||? Im a nail main
||descending dark|| on the same platform in phase 2?
||basically if she teleports to a platform near you, you can dash to that platform, ddark on it then spam nail. it'll avoid the attack because of iframes and do a lot of damage||
ok
i mean ||spells are still very strong so still use them. but otherwise just follow the strats written for nail usage. tbh absrad is just a lot about positioning and all. im sure there's a lot of tips on allat, and also on stuff like removing the ground spikes, so read through it. you'll get a lot of useful info||\
Alr I will try ||I do use spells but I am sure I will not be able to make good use of shaman stone thats why||
yeah that's fine
||so here somewhere near the top there's bosse(s?) how many do i need to do and can i reduce the number somehow?||
||do you know which boss it is?||
why can u|| 112%|| hk
||that's one boss, that has 6 in one. There a secret in a room for do 5 instead of 6||
||its like round big ass guards ||
dlc %
||you can reduce the number, search around just before the boss entrance for a secret.||
basically what jgers said
anyway i dip goodbye
Guys can I get tips on ||Hornet|| I have been doing this fight for so long
||hornet 1 or 2?||
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What’s harder between ||NKG|| and ||normal White Palace||?
||NKG||
||Hornet 1||
how am i supposed to know what theyre asking then lol
||If they don’t specify then it’s almost definitely 1||
It feels like I have been here for 22hrs
||buy silksong and die to the first enemy||
Use your ||vengeful spirit spell|| often
ok
||Stay on the ground, don't jump unless its to avoid her spear attack||
I should probably stop lmao 😭
Yeah prolly so
Or ||dash attack||
And*
Where is ||body of dought defender to fight white defender||
Wait I’m confusing my grammar skills
||If its hornet 1 they dont have dash?? lol||
||dive under the platform under the lever||
||dive under the lever next to the arena||
Ok ry
I can only suggest to develop muscle memory and spend a few tries just observing her attacks and dodging them. Also if you’re tired of her you could take a break till maybe tomorrow, it really helps
I meant her ||dashing attack||
😭
this is true. taking a break always helps
Guys
ooooh
Oh also!!
Am I the one being trolled now 
@tawny sapphire remember the green knight dude you had to defeat earlier?
Go back there
From the left
Mhm
Climb the wall on the left till you see a black butterfly
Break the wall
Enter the hidden room and get two extra lives
Why did u ask about ||hornet|| then💀 congrats tho
I got bored and though it’d be funny 😭
Lol
Anyway gn 
I was thinking "i cant believe someone is actually struggling ||on hornet 1??"||
lol gn
Goodnight!
I think it was obvious when I said the 22hrs thing cause it’s a meme in the community😭
anyone have any tips on what to do when the game starts to get boring?
If you don’t know look up “I fought ||Hornet|| for 22hrs” on YouTube
Sorry I’m dumb and didn’t realise 😭
I will look it up, ive never seen that
Push through, generally the early game is really boring
how far along are u?
He was easy
i'm only missing the ||panteons||
Mostly due to a lack of abilities
Oh you’re end game then go do the them
I’m late game and the game is also becoming a bit boring tbh, mostly because I’ve done nearly everything I could and what is left is pretty hard
spoil that, and you can go do those or if u dont have all ||masks, charms, or vessel fragments go get those||
Except ||Uumuu|| ofc
Which I’m postponing so yeah whats left for me is ||NKG|| and ||White Palace||
Have you done any of the dlc content
oh fun /sar
||Pantheons|| aren’t appealing to me rn but maybe later haha
Literally the best parts of the game lmao
Why
Ok so you literally are only missing the best parts of the game 😭
I'm having kinda difficulties on beating the guys who teach ||nail attacks||
Yeah I miss ||NKG|| from the ||Grimm DLC||
Ohhh looking forward to them then!
u want some tips?
I don’t want ||Quirrel to die|| :3
yes please i have every charm i just don't know what combinations are good
You can delay going to see him if u want
So like
||Strength, Shaman, QS, Sbody, NMG||
ngl that fight is so fun you should do it when you have time
SHAW
alright thank you
If I ||kill Monomon|| and then go ahead and ||kill the Radiance|| without going to the ||Blue Lake|| will ||he stay alive||
I knowww
i go ||hybrid nail build for them, so quick slash, unbreakable strength, long nail, and shaman. Ddark the shit out of them, jump on the wall to avoid their dash slash & cyclone slashes then ddark. Spam nail when they arent moving and shade cloak thru them to avoid getting hit.||
also watching tas and no hit players and seeing how they deal with things is a great way to learn how to get better at beating them.
HEGALE
😭
tysm it'll help alot
bro trying so hard to send that gif
npp good luck o7
💔
No silksong stuff here smh
||tip for fighting watcher knight(s)||
||spell spam|| : D
||getting soul for spell
||
||abuse spells, bounce on top of them switching directions. they tend to take turning around over rolling or attacking||
oh i can bounce on them
That’s not hard at all just ||pogo||
eh seems annoying ill do it tomorrow
i dont think im even supposed to be doing this boss rn
Guys?
You can do it if you are able to reach it
@maiden cedar it's ok if you are nail based
Yes
just dont talk to ||quirrel and he wont do anything. killing rad has nothing to do with it||
Alright that’s awesome, thank you both!
i am doing mostly nail but idk if thats a good strat
the classic "if i ignore it nothing bad will happen" actually applies in hollow knight
Breakable wall on the left, climb and break the chandelier
ye i did that
True, just like with ||Myla||
||Spells|| tend to do more damage with the right build, but if you're more used to nail strikes, it's fine too
exactly, and ||tiso||
If u never talk to him he ||stays in dirtmouth forever||
Why do I have to spoiler ||spells||, it's like 30 minutes into the 1st game lol
i just forget ||spells|| exist when in a fight
||still im so ass. i jump to try and dodge and end up dashing into their attack
||
Unfortunately ||tiso|| is already gone in my walkthrough :/
THAT? REALLY?
genraly my main focus is to survive
Wait so if I don’t ||talk to him|| in the ||colosseum|| will he live?
Omg didn’t know that
no once u talk to him 1x its over 😔
Damn
yeah, that happens, I reccomend you start using them, they're quite useful, especially later on. ||Desolate dive|| is specially good due to|| i-frames||
i have all of the good ||spells|| i just forget to use them
deserved 
It's only a matter of building a habit then
yeah
im only missing 8% :D
NOOO 
how far along are you?
||112% and p5||
nice
then you know you ||"fight him" again in the colo, and you can see how he died, mabye cannonically? Although I have no clue how brooding mawlek got into the coloseum|| (late late game spoilers)
lol yeah, i always wondered ||how they got bm to the colo||
Poor guy 
I figure|| it wasn't that big of a challenge for her, she's a giant mass of claws that spits radiance poison after all. How she got there tho...||
yeah lol
Noo why dude’s nice
K then in my second walkthrough I won’t ||buy the lantern|| and I’ll also ||keep everyone alive||
||do the sewers not have a map||
||why i cant get salubra blessing ? it says kingsoul isnt required||
they do
is the ||the hollow knight ending|| atainable ||with kings brand but no void heart||?
k
The ||base ending|| is, yes
||the one where the knight replaces the hollow knight without hornet?||
u should watch bluesr's ||dirtmouth%|| run, where he saves everyone lol
yes
yes
idk just get the other half
yeah ik i was just mid playthrough going for that ending and thought i made a mistkae
nah its only inaccessible once u get the ||voidheart||
also ||can i get the embrace the void ending by completing pantheon 5 even after i did dream no more or do i need another save||
u can do all || 5 endings on 1 save file yes||
5?
yes
oh ||flower?||
what
easier said than done bruuuh
|| theres 2 endings in the godhome dlc and 3 in base game||
||the hollow knight, sealed siblings, dream no more, embrace the void and?||
i think || one u get for beating p4 and one for p5||
||6 if you count mr mushroom||
no, the ||fifth is embrace the void: flower edition||
whats that
yeah thats what i thought
||if u give godseeker a fragile flower theres a diff ending||
||do i just get that ending by giving the flower to the godseeker or do i need to do anythign after||
oh shi
just ||give her the flower||
does that have an achievement tho
i havent done that yet
imma do it actually
i stopped after like 109% cuz || zote was pmo in p3||
i hhate that fuckass boss
i actually have no idea. it might
yeah ||zote|| sucks
oh fun, good luck. i love that fight
oop
i havent beaten that boss and i think i should grind for ||p4 but zote genuinely makes me not wanna play||
i might || download a safe file that doesnt have zote saved or something||
is ||fungal wastes|| the best way to go after beating ||hornet||
idk if this will make u feel better or worse, ||but you can actually omit his fight completely by not saving him in a new file||
yeah ik that
i regret it
yeah i just saw the second message lol
mkay
first time i ignored him but then i went back and saved him smh
in ||godhome|| theres a ||pedestal that says "I serve my queen inside her dreams"|| which one is that?
Do you want to know its exact location or just the name or a hint towards where it is
js the name
||Grey prince zote||
I fell down how to go up?
||Not the way you fell down at least. Looks like the only way is to the right.||
gotta go back around
fuck
yep lol
how can i make a vid as a spoiler lmao
oh wait
maybe
yay
||yes you need an ability you will get later||
Not currently, if you have no idea how to do it
||how many spellls do u have||
Ohh that seems so nice! Will definitely check it out
||what are spells 😭||
im sorey i dont know the vocab
oh ok nvm js continue playing u will know it later
ooh okay ty
heck yeah. he also has a genocide% where he ||kills everyone lmao||
||There is no way at least I see none just some creature called Midwife||
should i fight this?
Tbh I mostly care about ||Quirrel|| tho, getting a degree in specialised translation rn and he’s the reason I started translating in my free time lol. Found a cool story with him as the protagonist and decided to translate it
if u want. Its annoying but doable
Lmaoo i like the other end of the spectrum too
do i get anything?
Go up a bit before ||midwife||
just lore dialogue and regret
Ofc you can, not really worth it tho imo
ok
Not really. Its one ||essence per ghost||
You’ll be sad
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358031306247770132/1424851129363071098/40229998-580b-4cec-8d62-1b20c1b560a1.jpg?ex=68e57385&is=68e42205&hm=08aa3d5a80b6a04aa0b96c84e4f3f64ece193da7dff364a16a8a67007f802f70&
also, do you have an advice on where should i be headed now? ive explored almost every part of each area ive been too, or i am too wean to go to the crystal peak/lefter part of deepnest for example...||
thx found it
any tips for ||traitor lord?||
Send a screenshot of your inventory
sure
how hard is ||trial of the fool|| compared to the previous ||trials||
||abuse shade dash through all his attacks and quick slash if you have it||
Last one is quite a big step up
pretty difficult bc of one specific section imo
so probably wait till i upgrade my ||nail|| fully and get better ||charms|| then?
Yeah
I mean you can try
But I wouldn't recommend
yeah imma wait on it then since i beat the first two
||Its basically a shade dash practice, it dodges all attacks. However, pogoing its ground dash and just walking on its air dash is a lot better so if you can, you should try them and keep the shade dash for hard situations. Also, it will never do the same attack thrice in a row so you can be prepared if it does it twice. It will only throw the boomerangs if you are too far away.||
||Quick Slash|| in a very aggressive playstyle + ||Stalwart Shell|| and ||Joni’s Blessing|| is how I beat him after days of despair
just learn attack patterns and spam ||spells (or at least that was my strat)||
||joni blessing|| is not very good considering it does 2 damage and acnnot heal
probably use ||shaman stone, soul catcher, and spell twister|| for ||traitor||
thats a pretty good ||charm combo for him i never considered stalwart||
Tbh
Yes but I was very desperate by then and I just decided to kill him before he killed me lol
||Both peaks and deepnest work, peaks is maybe a bit easier if you are worried about that||
Only tactic that worked for me
yeah ||joni's blessing is a bit not good for bosses that do double damage||
probably cause its practically useless against ||tratior lord||
i doubt the iframes last for another attack
Ig if you go full spam it can be aight
if it does then im stupid
or do a ||nail build if that's your thing||
You shouldnt mention charms they might not have, you should ask for a screenshor of their charms instead
||is there any other area i could explore?
else ill go for peak, ive already done a good part of deepnest, maybe i will go again whenever i want, ty:)||
oh true ur prob right.
There are paths to new places in almost all areas you have found
I mean I was having trouble ||dashing|| through all of his attacks because I’d always end up being either too close or too distant, absolutely a me problem btw which I never had with other bosses lol. But yeah ||Stalwart|| kept me alive for a few more secs and it made a difference.
||sorry to ask a lot, may i kbow which if you know? ty for your help:)||
True, just wanted to share the way I managed to defeat him because I feel like it’s a bit unorthodox lol
there's a ||pale ore|| at ||hallownest's crown/top of crystal peak|| if you're in the area anyway
||All except fungal lead to new areas (if we include peaks as a new area)||
You shouldnt tell them stuff they didnt ask for
I mean to get to ||traitor lord|| you need ||king brand|| which is in ||kingdom edge and so is quickslash so nothing that new||
Still stuck on ||pure vessel|| btw
Really the only tips is to practice there isn’t any like tips it’s just muscle memory
6 hours, and I've defeated that fucker once
ONCE
that too just barely
What charms are you using
what do i get against ||failed champion||
||AGHHHHHHH I HAVE TO REFIGHT THE COLLECTOR AND REGET A BUNCH OF GRUBS
MY STEAM CLOUD SAVE DIDNT SAVE ACROSS THE PC AT MY MOMS AND THE PC AT MY DADS AGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH||
he does double damaga on jump breh
||unbreakable strength, shaman stone, quick slash, grubsong and steady body||
i also understoof i will not get any soul mid fight bruh
||Essence which is what you need for awakened dream nail
||
||Any advice or tips on how to clear the last room or section of Path of Pain? My equipped charms are Deep Focus, Quick Focus and Hiveblood.||
i have 600 of it ok
||I HAVE TO REFIGHT FLUKEMARM TOO AGGGHHHHJHHHHHHH||
||Pretty solid but recommend unbreakable heart for practice
||
What's your nail level?
||grubsong+hiveblood = invincibility||
||You get like 600 essence I think
And you need 1800 I think for awakened dream nail||
Nah ||only 300 :/||
That’s sad
||coiled||
What to do about the spikes in the floor, they're too wide they throw me off
It's confusion
Oh great, then you can ||one-shot the worms she spawns||
I somehow always end up walking into them
she wasn’t hard im just mad i have to do it again
Oh yes understandable :/
same with ||the collector|| T_T
I just can't get the timing right on this last room or section when pogoing on the retracting spikes.
||I sometimes use shade cloak to dash through them and land close to pv so I can get extra nail hits||
U mean the spears
At least they're two easy bosses but yeah I do understand the pain to some degree cuz it happened to me in the past with ||Grubs||
nah npc keeps making requirements higher
Always sit on a bench afterwards
at first it was 100 then 200 then 300 then 500 and now 700?
Yes, i mean the spears when they retract.
Wdym?
its not even that it’s bc steam decided to fuck up my cloud saves across 2 pcs bc my parents are divorced T_T
If im not sure i just keep pogoing off the saws
okok tysm!
so you dont need that npc to awaken nail?
damn
I'm lost, what npc are we talking about?
I just meant that you get ||300 essence|| by defeating ||failed champion||
am i crazy or i am just randomly getting pinged from this channel
Good luck!!
crazy
that doesnt help to fight him i barely get any soul
oh he's talking about the ||seer|| where she ||gives you stuff when you get more essence||
wait are you fighting ||failed champion||
how do i get access tot his
yes
From below
don't use a ||soul build||
||Go to the lower floor and look at the ceiling||
found it
for ||failed champion i'd reccomend using quick slash, steady body, and mark of pride|| (cuz that's how i did it)
Oh okay okay
is there a way to open the door
i just used ||abyss shriek with the money attraction charm||😛
No
ok
Isn't there a lever? I don't remember
Lmaoo genius move ngl
No I don’t think so
ok is this somewhat enough
Let me check my own file
i would strongly recommend getting ||quick slash and mark of pride||
i might get one more ||notch|| if i find 2 ||cahrms|| real wuick
is there a closer bench than ||Stag Station|| in ||Queen’s Gardens|| for ||Traitor Lord|| runback?
No. But why do you need to?
No
Oh yeah. The door's staying closed
flip
dang that’s annoying
i forgot that this spoiler bot is hyper sensitive
||I am having problem in the exact section that you pointed in the screenshot when the spears retract and the buzzsaw gives too few spaces to dash and i keep hitting the buzzsaw.||
What charms do you have?
yeah any easy ones i might have missed?
For what fight is this build?
||failed champion||
||I wouldnt do defender crest. Use grubsong instead||
There's ||deep focus|| in ||crystal peak|| but there's some platforming to do if you're okay with that
Also very useful charm later on
Only in ||white palace but still useless||
I love it in ||white palace|| haha. Probably because i suck at platforming tho so I die a lot.
@chrome drift You can also very easily get ||Grimmchild||
in general though, ||Failed Champion|| is pretty easy once you know the strats:
- ||when he jumps straight up, dash under him to keep hitting with your nail||
- ||if he jumps toward you, dash under him and keep hitting him with your nail||
- ||if he dashes AWAY from you, however, back up and let him do his attacks before he jumps back to you||
@chrome drift
Literally just ||summon the Troupe|| in the ||Howling Cliffs|| and go visit ||Grimm||
Most of the time I want to use ||deep focus|| too for ||white palace|| but it doesnt fit in my ||notches||
im gonna run a max hp build and facetank everything
how does one do that
There's a hidden room
Wait I'll show you where one sec
The only reason why he is considered hard is because of the double damage haha
yeah but once you know how to profit off of his attack patterns it's a mega easy fight
Because he is so easy he is one of the few I have on ||radiant diff||
also i'm in ||hive|| rn and why the hell can the ||giant bees turn into drills||
and it's not even hard to beat them up hitless it's just kinda annoying
@iron cove
You need ||dream nail|| tho but you probably already have that
I agree.
I left ||The Hive.||
I have beat the ||Hollow Knight|| and I don’t plan on returning unless necessary for ||Radiance||
yeah i do just not ||awakened||
bro got scarred for life
||The Hive has a crucial charm for the White Palace. I highly recommend getting it||
I mean ||Hiveblood|| is so good for ||White Palace|| unless you're a platforming god and you really need the other half of the ||Kingsoul|| in order to do certain stuff that will ||unlock the Radiance||
yeah get that ||charm|| it's really nice
What charms are recommended for the stupid ||mantis lords||
Show your inventory pls
I know about ||Kingsoul|| but imma be so fr I’d rather git gud at platforming than lose so much geo again
honestly just do ||spell build: shaman stone, soul catcher, spell twister||
even if you don't have all of those you don't even need a lot for the fight, just don't get charms that explicitly prohibit your performance since ||mantis lords|| are pretty easy
||Come on man, the Hive aint that hard. Its only the runback if you die to that mid boss||
ok
i wil get it sooner or layter soo
ik but just let me struggle with ||traitor lord|| for now
if u have ||elegy u dont need it||... but there are ||grubs|| in their anyway so u should go
||I have soul catcher, long nail, compass, stalurwerrebdjdbdbt shell, mantis claw, upgraded nail, shaman stone, dashmaster, steady body and the cloak||
How many ||notches||?
5
Do ||long nail and shaman||
Or 6
Kk
Ngl not a very beloved charm as far as I know but personally I'm a fan of ||dashmaster|| for this fight. Also I'd pick ||long nail||
||Another dashmaster fan... glad im not the only one||
Yass you get it
I could get another ||notch|| quickly
That's not a "could", it's a "must" for you
👅
You always want more ||notches|| I have them all and still wish for more
Oh and another ||mask hp thing||
no u cant
why is gru2 mother so hard
No need. It wont make much diffrence. You dont have much ||charms that are good against mantis lords.|| Would be nice if you can add ||soul catcher|| tho
I shall grind for ||notches|| then
That is always good
I mean he could go with ||long nail + dashmaster + shaman stone or soul catcher|| and it would be cool
||DASHMASTER|| IS SO GOATED (mainly just for travel though since ||dashing more than the base cooldown can handle doesn't really tend to happen||)
||2 notches|| and the extra hp would be perfect

Man i love the ||dashmaster + sharp shadow|| combo i'd wear it all the time while traveling if it weren't for platforming
(looking at you ||freaking queen's gardens||)
i ❤️ ||sharp shadow|| 🥹
Fr, but ||dashmaster ||carried me in the beginning with ||lost kin|| and ||white defender|| haha
what do u even need ||dashmaster for in mantis lords||
||Nosk destroyer 3000||
also ||sprintmaster|| gets boosted by ||dashmaster|| too idk man i just love those charms lol
||for lost kin and dung defender (since ion wanna do white defender yet) i just spammed descending dark with a spell build||
it works so well
answer is nothing
Jump and ||dash|| behind them safely without risking to fall on them if you're too distant
||Lots of dashing ig||
huh...? when do u need to do that
I also have a major skill issue
should I ||dream nail|| him?
every time u jump u just down slash for a hit or to go over thier blades
Yeah, its fun
Suree
if u just came back after getting ||wings||, ur most likely underpowered
Gl tho
You can also make ||lost kin|| trivial with ||dreamshield|| and ||defender's crest||, at least that made it easier for me idk lol
true true
I'm not doing it
its worth an attempt
yes, but make sure you have a good build....
You just did ||Broken vessel||?
||Just completed Path of Pain after getting stumped in the last room or section. I was stuck in this last room for 1 hour. Thanks for your advice in the last room @jade sedge.||
Like we're all different with different playstyles ofc but when i first fought them i loved to use ||dashmaster|| whenever they'd throw their rotating blades at me and/or when they'd ||dash|| forward
sure but u can do that without ||dashmaster||
Jump + ||dash|| in the opposite direction
the cooldown is more than quick enough
Ofc, i just felt like it made it safer because ||longer dash||
??
||dashmaster doesnt increase range||
Wait does it do that with ||sharp shadow|| only?
I thought it was a cooldown + longer ||dash|| combo
and ofc ||downward dash|| which is cool
no
thats only ||sharp shadow for shade dash||
if you pair it with ||sharp shadow|| it increases the length of the ||dash|| as well as the dmg dealt to 1.5x times your nail dmg
yes i know
Oh well
but you dont need ||dashmaster|| there to increase the length
||sharp shadow|| by itself works
I still liked it idk lol
You don't have it by the time you fight ||the mantis lords|| for the first time tho
i just looked at a video displaying the moves, ||and hive knight doesn't seem all that hard||, so should i even go for an actual build or just stick with the one i use for traversing?
go for a combat build
Just use a simple build. Id recommend some ||combat charm||
run ||shaman quick slash and idk maybe longnail, sharp shadow, or gubsong and nmg||
aight i'll make a combat build
||Hive knight|| is getting oblidirated 😭
Damn spoilers blocking me T_T
just unlocked ||godhome||, this place is sick
Have fun :)
Its not the boss whos hard
Its the run to there
ooh ||hall of gods||
ohhh ok
U get obliterated by ||hive soldiers|| before u even reach it
||dreamgate||
Those things are almost as anoyying as ||p aspids||
Thats like a very end game thing tbh
so does ||godhome|| let you replay fights without going all the way through a ||pantheon?||
earlier than ||sharp shadow||ngl
theyre very similar at least
after u face them once before yes
Yes
That charm buns who cares about allat
I've gotten this dude to his tentacle phase so many times, why does he have to be so annoying
thats not the point...
Not necessarily, there's a couple corridors that connect different rooms and are safe enough. You can just enter the rooms again and again through those corridors and near the entry you'll find a couple of smaller ||bees||, the least dangerous ones. You can kill them or ||dream nail|| them to get soul
oh wow the path to ||hive knight|| is kinda annoying i see what you all mean now
keep on going, you'll get them eventually ||(also in case you were not, fight them in the hall of gods and don't just do pantheon attempts)||
At least that is how i did it, managed to enter the fight with full lives
||hive guards launching at you||
that last attack shouldn't change the dynamic of the fight very much, so if you can get them to low health, you can beat them
I have been doing exactly that for 6 hours(with breaks)
if youve reallly been playing for 6 hours
you should just stop 
I have defeated him once
by then you'll have defeated them and if they respawned they're too far either way
breaks make you play better once you come back 
True
6 hours...
Its kinda hard to kill them when they be bouncing ngl
And at the same time some are just stinging u
what is getting you hit btw ? like that's always the kind of question you should be asking yourself
no like
Also what boss are we talking about here
let me go to ||the hive|| real quick
I am getting myself hit
I know the moveset
Eh I'll do this tomorrow, just died to phase 1 😭🙏🏻
||pure vassal||
Ahhh
This is worse than ||nkg||
i just made it to ||godhome|| the only ||pantheon|| i can do is the first one, should i do boss refights here or go do something else?
I do agree that you should take a break because playing as long as you did is not gonna bode well fighting someone who requires such quick reaction time and no greed
see
Off to sleep I go 🙏🏻
this is pretty safe
gn
Where is that
I hope so too, that's the only 1% i need 😭
yeah im just gonna attempt the first ||pantheon||
there's two corridors like that, this is the first one in the second room before the ||hive knight arena||
second one is right before the arena, there is also one of the biggest ||bees|| right there but it's below you so it shouldn't notice you, while the smallest ||bees|| always chase you in the corridor
I don't think the biggest ||bees|| even fit into the corridor so you're safe
Would have been easier to show in map
But ye
I get the idea
HOLY SHIT THE MUSIC
a ||notch|| is a ||notch|| :3
where the FUCK is the ||collector||
More to the right
||the room to the righy of kings||
if i say you need to touch grass to find him will you be mad :p
||quick slash and steady body + mark of pride my beloved||🥹
yay grats!!
this?
||shade dash with 6 masks is wild||
okay i just died to ||gruz mother||
Ngl my first time i thought i would fight the guy in the back
yes
skull
what am i even doing
Yessir
i recognize you
what is that weird ;-;
fr it def looks like that kinda thing
you used to play with tasy didnt u?
tasy?
um who is toast
tasytoast
i dont think so
oh u probably thinking about woodchuck
probably
attempt 3 at ||p1||
see this is one of the corridors
oh and tbh you can do the same in the final corridor too but carefully ofc
when i find the corpse of a "large bug", do i ||dream nail it to summon the grimm troupe||?
Do ||Hallownest Seals, Wanderer's Journals and other trinkets that are sold in the Velmi Artrid shop in the city of tears|| have any other use?
i'm in ||the place i was told to go for getting the grimm troupe in hallownest||
nope
You need to ||light up a red torch||
nope, just don't die after getting a bajillion geo
welp time to go find that
oh wait nvm it was in the previous room
Yeah i was about to say you're pretty close to that room lol
is there anything else after that or does the ||tent spawn in dirtmouth now||
it does
peakkkk
also listen to everyone's dialogues after that they're funny lol
oh boy i sure do love dialogue
cuz i need that LOREEEEEEEEEE
yass good choice lol!
||Can somebody help me? I installed mod hp bar and its did not work yet||
is it ||cornifer or conifer||?
||cornifer||
also after i get ||grimmchild and collect the three flames||, there's not a boss right
cuz i am NOT prepared for dlc bosses yet
also i'm a certified ||grimmchild|| HATER now because of the stupid sounds it makes ;-;
||Is there a way for me to make it so that i can dash by double clicking a direction button||
No
No
That’s always its own keybind
But it's your son and it meowsss
||He sends you to get a few more||
it's like having a cute cat come on
and i hate it

||For now you're safe||
i like these better
if i ever learn to make one out of yarn that would be so peak cuz they're my favorite creatures in all of hallownest 🥹
for now ;-;
how do i beat ||dung defender||
use ||a spell charm build|| and spam ||descending dark||
||Hornet|| would agree with you lol
You’re going to want to spam ||dash|| for fast movement, its own key is way better because you can ||dash|| in one button press instead of two. When I play this game I’m basically never walking unless I’m in a boss fight
where do i get that charm
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They mean a charm build that focuses on powering up your ||spells||
ohhhhhhh
yeah sorry for my bad phrasing😅
why do we need to dance around spoilers so much
You can get to ||dung defender|| before ||dive||, don’t give them names for upgrades they might not find for half the game
If you don’t care about spoilers you can go to #hk-general
cuz people don't want spoilers/the bots will delete our messages
i have ||dive||
right....
is it the white one
Here we focus on making sure you learn as little as possible you didn’t ask about so you can play unspoiled if you want to
yes
Yes
It does
cuz it depends ig
ok then it should still work
i would just recommend a different ||spell||
but hey not my playthrough
||Since im not used to playing on anything other then a phone i was having trouble becouse of it
I used to play smash bros on a keyboard with my bros and was pretty good with the set up it let me dash by double clicking let me be more precise with my movement without having to spread my hand too much.
But yeh it sucks i cant do that here||
What character in smash has a ||dash||?
All I can think of is air dodge
That isn’t smash bros
I’ve played enough ultimate I know how the game works, and that’s about it

is there a way to check || how many grubs i saved||
You can count them
im having trouble hitting ||grimm,|| should i use ||mark of pride and strength|| instead of ||quickslash and strength||? ||(base grimm)||
or maybe ||strength, longnail, sturdy body||
I would rely more on a ||spell build|| and keeping distance
||spell build on grimm..?||
Yeah
hes a boss that teleports and u cant consistently get soul
||quickslash shaman stone?||
Yeah and ||spell twister|| if you have the space
i dont have ||spelltwister||
Oh
Pretty sure it’s in ||city of tears||
Either use ||soul catcher|| or go get ||spell twister||
yk u may have a point
i can just ||spirit ball|| him when hes in ||balloon form||
that could be my main form of damage
How many stages does ||lost kin have|| how many times will he be knocked out for
How many ||notches/nail upgrades/marks should I have before facing hornet sentinel. I’ve got 6 notches, 1 nail upgrade and 6 masks and feel pretty underleveled.|| Am I js bad or?
do u mean ||hornet at kingdom edge||?
Is that where you fight her in that ||windy area||
Yeah there u mean?
That is on the underleveled side yes
||soul catcher and eater stacks ?||
||Staggers aren't based on damage, but on amount of hits. So it depends ||
I beat her yesterday with ||9 notches, and 7 masks||
Oh shit I thought it's like health bar things
like 6 or 5
Yes all charms that have similar effects stack
||mark of pride and long nail work together well||
||No he just staggers every 13 hits (or 7 if done in quick succesion)||
Any advice, I feel like I'm not getting far
It's not really worth the ||5 notches|| tho
Ig if ur going for only nail
I'm using ||mark of pride, quickslash, shaman stone and I have all dark spells and dark dash||
wild
If you're doing nail only ||it would be worth if you use steady body and quickslash||
is this bot on crack
