hk-help

[waxen pawn]

yeah but how do i get to this on the other side?

[torpid wadi]

||you dont need MoP for GPZ||

[waxen pawn]

without ||shadee cloack||

[torpid wadi]

||open it from inside qg||

[warm depot]

||I use a nail build but swap MoP for Shaman for that exact reason, Shaman is better against NKG anyway so it might just be better for that section||

[shut sparrow]

||on the staggers you can safely heal once. You can also try going for a heal on his white orb attack but it's tricky since you might need to cancel it if one is above you which is hard to do in time. So I'd just stick to the staggers||

[warm depot]

maybe practice ||GPZ without MoP in hall of gods||

[dusk ravine]

Yeah ik it's not necessary but I am bad at the game|| and need the extra range||

[waxen pawn]

i mean i cant find where the path to it is ||without shadde cloak||

[shut sparrow]

||practice gpz without mop||

[torpid wadi]

go in through ||fog canyon and then find it||

[shut sparrow]

||being bad at the game should be a reason to use the strong charms instead of mop|||

[torpid wadi]

then take out a dif charm

[dusk ravine]

I never used spells against ||nkg|| I just nail damage him all throughout the fight

[sterile creek]

same

[languid hatch]

any good charm combos for grimm

[green elk]

||is the final boss meant to be easy?||

[red cairn]

spoiler it

[dusk ravine]

The charm build is ||strength, quick slash, MoK, and heart|| what should I swap?

[languid hatch]

sorry

any good charm combos for ||grimm||

[torpid wadi]

||honestly nothing im ngl, tht was probably a bad suggestion. you gotta learn gpz without mop||

[dusk ravine]

||quick slash, shaman, spell twister, and maybe strength(it will break if you die tho)||

[red cairn]

depends on your playstyle

[shut sparrow]

||grimmchild, nailmaster's glory, shaman stone, grubsong, catcher/twister. Make sure you use mainly nailarts (so always have one charged) and use spells and soul to heal. Remember to use cyclone slash as well. It's very strong. You'll need to mash the attack button after releasing it for more damage||

[languid hatch]

i use nail the most

[dusk ravine]

Oh I just wanna jump of a building so bad

[red cairn]

the one above then

[prime horizon]

this might be a raelly stupid question but if u die in a ||pantheon|| in ||steel soul|| do u lose your save file?

[dusk ravine]

Nope

[prime horizon]

thank god

[torpid wadi]

no its in a ||dream||

[dusk ravine]

She was mortified

[shut sparrow]

||use shaman stone instead of mark of pride and grubsong and stead body instead of heart.
If you really really can't let go of nail length then use longnail instead of heart and still shaman instead of mop||

[prime horizon]

so does that mean it also doesnt do that for ||dream|| versions of bosses?

[shut sparrow]

please spoiler tag this ||like thus||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[warm depot]

exactly

[torpid wadi]

yes byt you die in ||white palace and radiance||

[desert iris]

||what is in the colosseum of fools, i need to know what im getting into||

[prime horizon]

ok i spoilered

[dusk ravine]

Wait I forgot about ||long nail|| that's a good idea.

Should I switch back to ||quick slash, heart, MoP, and strength for the last two|| or something else?

[prime horizon]

a bunch of enemies in a row

[torpid wadi]

||enemy gauntlet||

[prime horizon]

what he said

[desert iris]

ok

[shut sparrow]

no. ||Strength, shaman, qslash is what you should keep for the whole pantheon. Ideally you use steady body + grubsong/dreamwielder/nailmaster's glory or catcher, twister for the last two but you can use longnail as a stepping stone for now I guess||

[dusk ravine]

||an arena where multiple different kinds of enemies spawn in waves, defeating them gives you a reward||

[prime horizon]

also do u get a background for beating ||radience in steel soul||

[dusk ravine]

Ok I will try, thnx for the help

[dusk ravine]

Idk actually? I wanna know too

[waxen pawn]

man i m so sry i was missremembering where the path from my pic was totally my bad

[prime horizon]

cuz i didnt know that u did but i got a background for beating ||thk in steel soul||

[waxen pawn]

figured it out tnx

[torpid wadi]

nice

[shut sparrow]

no

[prime horizon]

dang

[shut sparrow]

||that's just generally for beating steel soul||

no matter how

[prime horizon]

ohhhhh

[shut sparrow]

||I believe there's another one for 100% ||

[prime horizon]

mm ok

[languid hatch]

i beat him, now what should i do with my life

[prime horizon]

who

[languid hatch]

||grimm||

[prime horizon]

like ||troupe master grimm?||

[languid hatch]

yea

[prime horizon]

what else have u done

[torpid wadi]

continue the ||ritual||

[prime horizon]

also a good option

[red cairn]

think i can get all acchievements in 15 hours?

[errant otter]

Hey guys, guess what

||I beat Hollow Knight||

Today

A day before Silksong

||Got 100%||

[red cairn]

spoiler that and nice

[prime horizon]

epic

[torpid wadi]

how many more

[red cairn]

7

[shut sparrow]

||I think they're just referring to beating the game "Hollow Knight"||

[prime horizon]

wish me luck its time to risk my entire ||steel soul|| save file again

[errant otter]

||Guess which ending||

[shut sparrow]

GG

[errant otter]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[red cairn]

normal?

[red cairn]

thought they meant the other guy

[errant otter]

||If you mean the one that gets unavailable with Void Heart then no||

[prime horizon]

ok ||hornet sentinal|| time i hope i dont die and lose all of my progress

[errant otter]

||12% left until completion||

[lilac turret]

||what should i do after killing monomon ? I'am completely lost idk where to go||

[prime horizon]

what other ||dreamers|| are there for u?

[errant otter]

||Who do you have left (dreamer wise)||

[lilac turret]

the other 2

[prime horizon]

try to get to them

[red cairn]

how do i do the spoiler on keyboard?

[errant otter]

Hrm, been to ||Deepnest?||

[lilac turret]

yes i did

[torpid wadi]

Doable

[errant otter]

use || or tap until it highlights

[red cairn]

didnt mean to reply

[torpid wadi]

Depending on what they are

[lilac turret]

but there is nothing i think i don't know what to do there

[errant otter]

Dw

Wait isn’t there a command for that

?spoilers

[red cairn]

ik how to i just dont know where they are

[errant otter]

No

[errant otter]

You on mobile? (iOS namely)

[lilac turret]

||well of course there is a boss but i don't know how to fight him||

[red cairn]

its / not ?

[red cairn]

i was earlier

ik how on phone

[errant otter]

No here we use ? For commands i think

[solid warren]

||im in crystalpeak with 1150 geo, only 1 nail upgrade, and 5 masks, how can i waste it all, i am NOT running accross the map tho and im pissed that crystal dont have a stagg station||

[red cairn]

spoiler it

[lilac turret]

i use /

[prime horizon]

spoilers

[red cairn]

?tag spoiler

[languid radish]

No tag spoiler found.

[lilac turret]

./spoiler

[shut sparrow]

please tag that ||like this||

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[errant otter]

No idea how to on pc, try highlighting it and then see

[prime horizon]

yay i didnt lose all of my progress :D

[errant otter]

Like tjis maybe?

[red cairn]

didnt work with that

[shut sparrow]

on pc try altgr + > or shift/altgr + #
I think it's often one of these

[errant otter]

Sorry for the video posing mods

[shut sparrow]

you can alternatively put/spoiler at the start of the message

[red cairn]

its shift backslash apparently

[errant otter]

Try this roughly

[red cairn]

im on pc

[errant otter]

The idea is still the same

[red cairn]

ik where i went wrong

[shut sparrow]

||you can't spend it in crystal peak. Dw, 1000 geo isn't too much compared to what you gain later tho||

[errant otter]

Discord commands don’t chance last time I checked

[shut sparrow]

stop being rude

[errant otter]

Kk

[red cairn]

i didnt use it like a command

[errant otter]

Your opinion wasn’t requested, so please do not give such a rude one, if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say it please

[errant otter]

That’s how /spoiler works

[shut sparrow]

literally stop being toxic omg

[red cairn]

my keys arent working for the line

[errant otter]

Can we get a mod to warn/kick this guy

Broke rule number 2

[shut sparrow]

you are simply being rude. Please just stop it or I'll have to ping mods

[errant otter]

I am not attacking you, I am simply stating what the rules say

Oh also maybe this as well

(Maybe reread the rules)

(Mods if I’ve done something wrong lemme know)

[warm depot]

take it to DMs guys, nobody wants to read your argument

[errant otter]

I’m literally just trying to remind the guy of the rules, I intend to take it no further

[sterile creek]

can anyone give me tips how to ||make it past god tamer in p3. i know i have to focus on the beast but i'm struggling||

[warm depot]

good, then just drop it and move on

[shut sparrow]

<@&283547423706447872> rude and then annoying about it. Also like half trolling idek 😭

[errant otter]

I was like, just about to dm a mod you beat me too it

[warm depot]

you can ignore the ||tamer|| mostly, she only lunges every once in a while, then just focus on the ||beast|| and don't let it corner you because it can just stunlock you in the corner

[shut sparrow]

you don't need to DM mods. That's what mod pings are for

[honest pawn]

is this where I can get advice

[nimble holly]

Don't dm mods we have modmail, anyway who's being a pest

[errant otter]

Tiny Muscle

[warm depot]

yes, but tag stuff as spoilers

[shut sparrow]

it's too late my guy

[sleek sable]

hey! sorry - just got on the game, another question: was ||crossroads infected before beating hollow knight? or was that caused by me beating the hollow knight without void heart?||

[errant otter]

Wait we do 😭 Im so used to servers not having it

[shut sparrow]

powdered get this man out of here 💀

[sleek sable]

i just wanna check up on lore

[warm depot]

it gets infected after ||killing the first dreamer|| or ||after getting wings||

[split saffron]

What did I walk in to

[errant otter]

||No, it was infected prior to that fight||

[sleek sable]

thanks!

[honest pawn]

how do I beat watcher knights I dropped the chandelier but other than that I can't beat them I always die at the last two because I just don't think there is enough time to heal

[split saffron]

||Lore explanation is that the seal got weaker, ergo the Infection grew stronger||

[split saffron]

Spoilers

[torpid wadi]

Spam ||dive||

[honest pawn]

oh sorry

I didn't realize

[split saffron]

||DDark spam, Focus On keeping them on sight||

[errant otter]

How do you even drop the chandelier

[warm depot]

do your best to fight one at a time, two can easily overwhelm you and not let you heal but it's still really hard to find the opening

[honest pawn]

okay thanks

[errant otter]

Might wanna spoiler tag tjis

[shut sparrow]

it's no problem. Please edit your message though. You tag messages ||like this||

[torpid wadi]

||breakable wall just before the arena||

[split saffron]

||Brekeable Ceiling||

[errant otter]

I did the fight without it so I’m very curious

[split saffron]

Is there any way to see the countdown for the Silkiest of songs by the way?

[errant otter]

Where?

[errant otter]

Not that I know of

[warm depot]

?tag countdown

[languid radish]

Silksong releases on <t:1756994403:f>, <t:1756994400:R>. Ready your needles!

[split saffron]

||Outside the Arena, Climb the wall that has the door||

[red cairn]

its in 14 hours 42 mins

[split saffron]

Why thank you kind sir

[errant otter]

Wait what

[royal river]

Is listening to the whole hollow knight soundtrack a spoiler?

[split saffron]

wth

Who the hell was just purged

[errant otter]

As long as you don’t look ar some names

[nimble holly]

Stay on topic

[errant otter]

Dyno

[warm depot]

not really, there's no lyrics

[hard vapor]

where does one get|| a tram pass ||

[warm depot]

but the track names might give away some area or character names

[split saffron]

||Deepnest||

[royal river]

OKay epic I just really like the soundtrack lol

[errant otter]

Man, mods are cool (I’m a mod in three servers and Im not even this cool)

[austere cave]

is there a chance of me beating the game and then not being able to beat side bosses?

[tulip mountain]

||Theres no way you can lock yourself gameplay wise out of entering brettas house correct? even after leaving zote for dead, you can still save bretta and get her mask shard in her house? thanks||

[shut sparrow]

||you can only lock yourself out of one boss. And that decision happens at the very early game||

[split saffron]

||Yes, you can't lock yourself out. Bretta will just remain there||

[warm depot]

||after you get an ending you get respawned in a bench just before you beat the game so you can just turn around and keep playing/discovering stuff||

[tulip mountain]

thank you! sorry if that was a dumb question lol

[honest anvil]

||I am on p5 charmless on absrad. Any tips I could use?||

[austere cave]

|| who could that have been? ||

[torpid wadi]

||zote||

[austere cave]

ah all good fought them in || the colleseum ||

[brazen galleon]

I actually lived and then died to ||tentacles||

Oops

[brazen galleon]

Lock in

[shut sparrow]

||It's hard to give general tips for the whole fight. Use spells. Don't jump over orbs. Remove spike floor with dive. Use dive to dodge. Don't chase her in plats. Stay in a rhythm in climb (I have a video if you need it). Don't do the pogo strat in final (I have a video if you need it again).
I'd be helpful if you had more specific things you struggle with||

[honest anvil]

||honestly, the climb is what gets me most of the times||

[shut sparrow]

||https://youtu.be/OuGLx5B08E4||

use this strat

[warm depot]

||isn't the climb arguably the part where being charmless doesn't matter?||

[honest anvil]

yeah 😭

[sour turtle]

||hey guys i just beat mantis lords for my first time and have been traveling through deep est for a while and am very lost does anybody have any tips to help?||

[shut sparrow]

leaving would be my advice

||I recommend doing that area later and finding new paths in fungal||

[warm depot]

||deepnest is a maze by design, you will get lost, do your best to remember where you've already been and keep moving to new areas||

[sour turtle]

Okay thank you guys

[austere cave]

is || hollowknight || the final boss?

[hollow spire]

so isn't this marker supposed to be a fight?

[shut sparrow]

||it marks the dreamer. Whether there is a fight near it or not isn't specified||

[hollow spire]

ahh I see thank you

[warm depot]

yes, you get an ending after beating them

but ||there's multiple endings||

[unreal forge]

||if i complete the grimm troupe storyline before giving divine 12k geo to enhance my charms, do i never get the opportunity to make them unbreakable and she leave with them?||

[hollow spire]

Damn bro you set me up

I've been pranked

[shut sparrow]

depends how you complete it

[acoustic chasm]

Wait what

That’s the end?

|| beating the hollow knight is the end of the game?||

[shut sparrow]

||an end of the game||

[acoustic chasm]

Can I still play?

[sleek sable]

i beat ||hollow knight wiht void heart and i got the achievement for completing with hornet by my side... did i miss something for "true" ending? or is that it? i did see dream nail particles while hornet was holding the hollow knight down, i accidentally fatfingered nad just hit the boss again - should i have nailed the boss?||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[unreal forge]

||so if i don’t banish, she stays||

[shut sparrow]

there's a lot left to do

[acoustic chasm]

Ok

[warm depot]

try it and find out

[sleek sable]

erm

okay

how do i skip credits..

well its about to be over actually nvm

[red cairn]

options

[warm depot]

but in general, ||dream particles means "use dream nail here"||

[shut sparrow]

yes. ||If you banish, she will go and you'll get back the fragile charm. If you complete the ritual Grimm's way her tent will stay||

[shut sparrow]

you can't

[red cairn]

you can tho

[vital cypress]

||If you die in a dream realm area in steel soul mode, does that end the run?||

[acoustic chasm]

Bro I hope silksong is harder

[sleek sable]

im guessing the state the games put me in is ||right before starting the fight vs hollow knight then?||

[shut sparrow]

no

[acoustic chasm]

||That ending was kinda easy||

[unreal forge]

yes

[red cairn]

yea, i just did it

[modest elm]

Yeah it ||rewinds time right before the fight||

[sleek sable]

kk

[warm depot]

||no, dream deaths don't count as actual deaths, but there's 2 exceptions||

[shut sparrow]

with 2 exceptions, no.
||Generally the rule is: If dying places you on a bench in a normal save, it will end the run. That's not the case for 2 specific dreams tho. If you have gotten to them you'll probably know which ones I'm talking about||

[shut sparrow]

are you using mods

[red cairn]

yea but ive one it vanilla aswell

[shut sparrow]

there's no way to do it without mods

[daring lark]

||Well, I'm really trying to beat the Grimm boss, the king of nightmares, but I can't do it, I'm fighting. Will someone please help me one day? PlayStation, I give him my login details, he can help me beat this fucking boss please😭 It's been 12 hours non-stop. I try, I try again, I try again, I still can't do it.||

[acoustic chasm]

Yea

I just checked

He’s still there

[shut sparrow]

||there's a lot harder stuff in hollow knight left.
To give you an idea: The hardest achievement will take you around 50h more from this point on. The hardest thing in the game overall will take around 10-15 times as much||

[sleek sable]

||oh fuck||

[shut sparrow]

this game is all but easy

[vital cypress]

Yep I know where you mean, thanks, gotta ||100% steel soul before Silksong releases||

[celest pewter]

is there a way I can try the ||NKG fight or do I have to beat my way through the first 48 rounds of P5? I chose the other quest option and never fought him||

[acoustic chasm]

Yikes

[shut sparrow]

||once you reach him in the pantheon he'll be unlocked in godhome using dreamnail on the normal Grimm statue. You gotta reach him once tho. And you also can't get the journal entry anymore||

[prime horizon]

go to ||hall of gods||

[sleek sable]

||THATS HOW YOU FIGHT THE RADIANCE? THATS IT?||

[celest pewter]

isn't that normal, not ||nightmare?||

[shut sparrow]

please use spoiler tags in this channel ||like this|| and edit your message

[honest anvil]

holy shit dude thank you finally I beat every ||binding|| thanks to you

[daring lark]

Ok sorry

[red moss]

||so all i have left is p5, stuff in Hall of Gods, and binded runs. At least I think I do. is there anything that i might have left to do that would give me some significant lore, especially for before silksong comes out?||

[warm depot]

if you ||complete the Grimm DLC (either defeating NKG or banishing the troupe)|| he will show up in the ||Hall of Gods||

and you can practice him there

[shut sparrow]

you can try doing it later when you have more upgrades. Idk if anyone here will beat it for you but why would you want to do that?
The only reason you're playing this game is for fun, otherwise you'd be doing something else. So why ask someone to play for you?

[celest pewter]

||but is that the nightmare version? nightmare king grimm? or just normal grimm?||

[warm depot]

both

[shut sparrow]

congrats!!!!

[celest pewter]

||two separate statues then? I thought I only saw normal one||

[shut sparrow]

now ||all bindings||

[warm depot]

you have to ||dream nail the statue to switch from normal to dream variant||

that goes for every boss with that variant

[celest pewter]

got it, thanks

[daring lark]

||Yes sorry for the inconvenience I will try later but I don't understand why in time, I still can't even though I finished the game, I have all the possible charms but I must just be useless||

[honest anvil]

i would rather get spoiled for the silksong ending 😭

[shut sparrow]

||no, that's normal. Don't blame yourself. It's completely normal to struggle with the fight this much or even more. If you want to take a break, do so.
If there's anything you struggle with specifically ask about that.
My main advice is that you don't forget to heal on the fight. You can easily heal on a lot of attacks||

[shut sparrow]

it's really not as bad as you think

||After I beat each binding I remember also being 100% convinced I would never (be able to) do ab||

[daring lark]

||Okay, thanks for the advice. I'll try to do some more research on the fight, and I'm going to go to sleep now because I think we're in a different country. It's currently 1:49 AM, but thanks again.||

[modest elm]

You can || count until the 4th fire attack and then use your upward magic|| to deal large amounts of damage.

Focus on learning how to ||dodge danger, and attack him while you dodge||.

||sword length is very useful here, and glass charms don’t break. The only one you should use is fragile strength though||

[shut sparrow]

no we're in the same time zone

but good night!

[shut sparrow]

alternatively you can also heal here

Hi ddx

[daring lark]

||Oh thank you, I'll keep that aside for my research.||

[daring lark]

Godd night 🤗

[tidal jewel]

should I spoiler alert anything for true ending?

[sleek sable]

||do you start the radiance fight with full hp or no||

[modest elm]

||1 mask is much less valuable than 8-12% of the boss hp imo.||

[shut sparrow]

anything from the entire game

[tidal jewel]

ok

how do I spoiler alert?

[west garden]

oh, I need help with something on|| Godhome||

[gloomy moth]

Balatro…

[sleek sable]

label your messages like ||this||

[modest elm]

|| like this ||

[sleek sable]

two ||s at start and end

[tidal jewel]

ty

[modest elm]

The answer ||is practicing the boss until you can’t remember why you were bad at it||

[west garden]

by yor recomendation, what is the best charm build for the 3rd Pantheon,|| Sly keeps kicking my ass||

[shut sparrow]

||imo healing is incredibly important for the boss since you can do it all the time. People often forget that since it doesn't seem like it||

[west garden]

makes sense

[tidal jewel]

|| What charms do you recommend for path of pain ||

[shut sparrow]

please tag ||pantheon||

[modest elm]

||Nail length is most effective. But learn how to fight them with only one nail length charm, otherwise pantheon 5 will feel much harder||

[west garden]

||Sly is pretty difficult, especially Zote the Goat||

[thick wing]

My strat for watcher knights

[modest elm]

||Additionally he has lots of creative spell opportunities. And if you learn how to attack him during his 1-2-3 spin combo, you can just run away from every nail art||

[shut sparrow]

||I recommend shaman, qslash, strength, grubsong, steady body.
Make sure you practice the fights you struggle with in the hall of gods||

[west garden]

I just do lvl 3 nail, Nailmasters glory, quick slash, quick heal, or spell strength charm

[tidal jewel]

|| currently using hiveblood, unbreakable strength, and quick nail||

[shut sparrow]

||I'd at least get rid of one of the damage charms||

probably ||strength||

[west garden]

It's the second phase that always kills me, with the spin

[modest elm]

They’re ||extremely susceptible to spell damage (because it’s Area of effect) and are slow as individual enemies, making them very easy to combo with your nail.||

[tidal jewel]

|| should I replace it for mark of pride||

[acoustic chasm]

|| traitor lord fucking sucks the boss itself isn’t even that hard it’s GETTING to the boss that fucking sucks I hate this boss so much ||

[west garden]

||grubsong is a bit much tho||

[shut sparrow]

made by anika

[shut sparrow]

wdym by much?

[modest elm]

Excellent. ||That’s the spell opportunity in the video, and has the entire second phase.
It’s also his last phase.
Just learn to time hits for right after he spins (or again use nail length)||

[west garden]

||I HATED TRAITOR LORD BRUV!||

[shut sparrow]

||yeah you can do that||

[tidal jewel]

|| Yeah traitor lord sucked||

[brazen galleon]

Guys I'm at ||p4 bench what do I do I'm so scared||

[acoustic chasm]

He’s so annoying it takes like Atleast 5 minutes to walk back and he does 2 damage per hit

[modest elm]

Ooh. that center thing is new to me. So easy too. peak tip

[west garden]

||it's nice until you get hit, at that point, it's hard to heal back||

[modest elm]

||Shade dash tutorial. The boss is designed to be unable to hit you if you just shade dash exactly while it goes off cooldown|| remember that timing and you’ll be basically invulnerable

[west garden]

||I knew I should use GS||

[celest pewter]

how much harder is ||NKG vs PV? seems a good deal harder, I'm thinking I wont learn and beat the fight tonight lol||

[acoustic chasm]

Platforming has to be the worst part of this game

[west garden]

||PoP for example||

[shut sparrow]

||how is grubsong "nice until you get hit"
It's the opposite. It makes getting hit less punishing. And since you constantly get hit, even as a fairly experienced player, it's very good||

[brazen galleon]

As someone ||who just took 87 attempts to beat pv and then 3 attempted nkg on ascended, I can say PV actually sucks||

[west garden]

ok

[modest elm]

They’re of ||equal difficulty, PV is technically harder (and has a non static moveset) but because they’re so similar, beating NKG makes PV much easier||

[acoustic chasm]

I already know I’m going to hate it there

[shut sparrow]

||nkg has a very rough start when learning him but once you know the moves and how to deal with them he gets much easier than PV||

[west garden]

I always use the heal/damage technique where you heal when you're about to get hit that way you get too much damage

[brazen galleon]

Why is|| PV spike attack so bs dude||

[west garden]

I'm ass

[celest pewter]

I beat ||PV on ascended after I got the hang of him, though my normal success rate is only like 50% due to constant mistakes, so ok, sounds like maybe doable tonight then||

[west garden]

what's ||PV||?

[modest elm]

Getting good at this games platforming made me see the entire map in a new light. You become unkillable to bosses and move between areas like a lightning bolt through a tree

[shut sparrow]

||why don't you dodge instead of healing?||

[acoustic chasm]

Oml platforming in this game sucks

[modest elm]

A spoiler

[brazen galleon]

Nunya

[west garden]

it's hard, I use it when I'm cornered

[acoustic chasm]

I don’t care if I’m good at it the plaforming is still the worst part why is there spikes on the fucking ceiling

[west garden]

bro, IDC about spoilers, this game came out in 2017

[shut sparrow]

||try using ddark insead. It's quicker, safer and deals damage||

[celest pewter]

bumping your head on the ceiling/spikes is almost hte most triggering thing

[modest elm]

Time pogo hits instead of spamming downslash

[west garden]

oh yeah

[acoustic chasm]

I can’t pogo vines

[acoustic chasm]

And they are on the fucking ceiling

How do I pogo something on the ceiling

[brazen galleon]

What platforming are you doing?

[west garden]

||PoP||

[acoustic chasm]

All of it just sucks ass

Nothing in particular

[modest elm]

||Pure vessel is the clean, undamaged, prime form of the hollow knight, and hardest non-final boss in game. What you could have been had you escaped the abyss before them, what could have been the savior of hallownest||

[shut sparrow]

I get that you are frustrated but as long as you aren't asking for genuine advice but just complaining this channel isn't the place

[brazen galleon]

Ah, THAT.

[thick wing]

So ||shamans stone?||

[west garden]

bro when I saw the ||Pale court ||platforming, I knew I'm never going to do that shit

[modest elm]

Would be very useful yes

[west garden]

ok, I'm stupid

[brazen galleon]

I don't think I've ever taken off shamans

[acoustic chasm]

I love having to fight || traitor lord || with half hp

[west garden]

you fucking monster

[modest elm]

Old spoilers are still spoilers

[frozen bobcat]

Im really bad at this game apparently how do i get past fading town

[west garden]

IK

[modest elm]

You wanna see a video of the fight

[west garden]

I spoiled myself on accident by just watching an HK meme vid

[brazen galleon]

You should ||go to deepnest and explore, you might find something or someone there...||

[shut sparrow]

watching a hk meme video is a mistake in general

[celest pewter]

in ||NKG, is there a something that determines which direction he'll dash after his dive attack? seems tough if I already dodged out of the way and get caught on the wrong side||

[acoustic chasm]

How am I a monster for not having any soul because I have to use soul to heal from the stupid platforming section before the boss for some reason

[west garden]

oh wait

[brazen galleon]

||yes I'm making him save cloth||

[acoustic chasm]

Yea dude can you just tell me

I’m not into these cryptic hints

[west garden]

the platforming to TL sucks bro

[shut sparrow]

||he'll always dash in your direction||

[brazen galleon]

||save cloth or smh, wait I think that's ancient basin||

[modest elm]

Deepnest has good loot, fill out the map.

[shut sparrow]

tags

[west garden]

Everytime I get less than one hp, I skidaddle back to bench

[modest elm]

idk what you’re talking about

[west garden]

IK

[acoustic chasm]

I’ve already been to || deepnest||

[shut sparrow]

tags

[acoustic chasm]

I AM

[west garden]

bro, ||deepnest|| is scary AF at night

[brazen galleon]

||where do you get cloth to help you from||

[brazen galleon]

Tags

[celest pewter]

that doesn't seem always true, ||maybe it's my direction before I dodge through him or something? he definitely sometimes lands and then dashes harmlessly away||

[modest elm]

||broken Tram|| @acoustic chasm

[brazen galleon]

oh lol

[acoustic chasm]

Did I miss something there?

All I got was my || ticket||

[modest elm]

Not really, it’s an ||NPC encounter with no reward or achievement. You probably are missing something in all of deepnest though ||

[shut sparrow]

||it is true. The only time he dashes away from you is if you switch sides while he is already starting his dash animation||

[west garden]

Anyone beat ||AR ||here?

[modest elm]

It’s a requirement for a cool story moment. not for any videogame progression

[shut sparrow]

yes

[modest elm]

Anyrad is damageboost slop

[acoustic chasm]

Bro how does finding a npc for story sake help me with platforming?

[shut sparrow]

||I think they mean absrad ||

[shut sparrow]

also this is wrong

[west garden]

I meant|| Absolut Radiance||

[modest elm]

Nuh uh

[shut sparrow]

yuh uh

[west garden]

anyone find ||Menderbug?||

[shut sparrow]

you don't get very far "damageboosting"

[modest elm]

Most people here ye

[west garden]

it was as difficult as they said

[celest pewter]

like this you mean?

[west garden]

little bastard

[shut sparrow]

yes

[modest elm]

||Turn on bindings ||

[west garden]

It's hard to pogo off of him when he does that

[west garden]

bru, this mf is at the begining of the game

[shut sparrow]

||except for orbs maybe anyrad is a very well designed boss imo. Each phase is consistently doable and not really unfair. It's also just really fun imo but that's subjective||

[mossy orchid]

i just got the ||voidheart|| can someone give me a hint on what im supposed to do with it?

[west garden]

I don't think I'm ever trying|| AR|| anytime soon bro

[modest elm]

Yeah but the boss isn’t that hard so bleh

[celest pewter]

ok yeah, ||after getting destroyed by PV all day yesterday until finally killing him ascended, NKG feels almost relaxed after a few atttempts here||

[shut sparrow]

||the voidheart unlocks every ending that isn't the first. Just do stuff that might lead (or previously led) to an ending and try to do stuff differently.||

[west garden]

||go to Black egg temple, fight HK until the SHaw comes and and says Git Gud, and dream nail||

[shut sparrow]

there's certainly harder modded bosses. But ||anyrad|| is definitely on the more difficult side

[modest elm]

||NKG’s main trick is his time to kill the player. Once you learn their patterns they become something you can autopilot. Take whatever steps you see as necessary to do the same with PV - ie practice consciously.||

[mossy orchid]

ah ok thanks

[west garden]

bru, I gave you somthing you can do

[sterile creek]

oh hey

[near adder]

trying to finish this but im missing 3 entries... any ideas on what they could be? i have the ||tendrils entry so ik not that||

[brazen galleon]

Oh

NO

||I'm at full hp room before pv, no soul though. Oh hall of gods I'm actually radiantly cooked||

Im legit shaking

[west garden]

uh, show us a vid of all your entries, we might see what you're missing

[celest pewter]

||me 5x yesterday after crushing him repeatedly in HOG -- remember to turn on your speed and reflexes and crush him||

[west garden]

did you go to ||Colloseum||?

[gloomy moth]

You can do it!

[near adder]

yes i finished it

[west garden]

ok

[near adder]

let me pop open obs real quick

[brazen galleon]

Ok I'll turn it on fr

[celest pewter]

don't forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE

[west garden]

did you get ||Godhome||?

[near adder]

no does he have entrie?

[brazen galleon]

Did you unlock it?

[near adder]

nah

[brazen galleon]

||god tuner entry||

||yeah you gotta do that||

[west garden]

the way to ||Godhome|| has an entry

[near adder]

is that just 1?

[west garden]

that comes really late bro

[brazen galleon]

Does it?

[shut sparrow]

Commonly missed enemies by zenonira
||• Goam
• Mossy Vagabond
• Aluba
• Charged Lumafly
• Gorgeous Husk
• Crystal Crawler
• Garpede
• Pale Lurker
• Flukemunga
• Void Tendrils
• Durandoo
• Duranda
• Maggot||

Check if you have all these.

[west garden]

||4th pantheon|| gonna be a bitch to do

[brazen galleon]

Yeah I'm on it right before the final boss

Im so jej3bfnekk3knfng

Ok

[near adder]

are these in order?

[brazen galleon]

Let me lock in frfr

[west garden]

he already got ||tendrils||

[brazen galleon]

Don't even mention that word

Im gonna cry if I die

[celest pewter]

just use your weapons and abilities to defeat the enemy

[brazen galleon]

Istg

Im legit just gonna sleep if I die

[shut sparrow]

I don't think so

[brazen galleon]

If I lose, expect no response from here

[west garden]

Anyone know how to beat ||3rd Zote the Goat?||

[shut sparrow]

wdym by "how to beat"? What specifically do you need advice for?

[west garden]

ofc I gotta glaze the one guy I hate the most

[hybrid walrus]

so im tryna do the ||colloseum of fools|| and the lag gets to be so bad i cant even do the ||first trial||

[west garden]

this mofo is a tad difficult

maybe I'm ass

[shut sparrow]

||what are you playing on?||

[split saffron]

||Ddark is your best friend||

[hybrid walrus]

pc and its a decent one

[shut sparrow]

that doesn't really help

[west garden]

bru, IG I'm a dumbass

[near adder]

||gorgeous husk is def one.. im losing track cause the codex sucks to look thro||

[shut sparrow]

that's not normal. Are you also not using any mods?

[west garden]

I play on a switch so, don't blame me

[split saffron]

Nah don't degrade yourself like that. We all learn, you'll get it eventually, Good luck

[brazen galleon]

Goodnight

[celest pewter]

one more try

[hybrid walrus]

nope its my first playthrough

[brazen galleon]

You're right

A real believer never gives up hope...

[celest pewter]

||currently perfect dodging every NKG attack and walking into every fireball||

[split saffron]

What you doin' if you don't mind me asking? do you need help?

[west garden]

||bro, I maneged to get 3rd pantheon, but I accidently deleted the save file||

[brazen galleon]

||I just died to pv in p4||

[west garden]

alr, I gtg

[shut sparrow]

||gorgeous husk is hidden in a backroom of the many doors in the big right side city room. There are like 4 of them so check all of them||

[split saffron]

You make it hard to defend you atp /j

[west garden]

?

[tidal jewel]

|| once I finish PoP I will go back and start trying p4||

[west garden]

bye cya'll tomorrow!

[shut sparrow]

then I'd ask in #modding-discussion
If you don't get a response there make a post in #1057825333841240104 but make sure you mention it's vanilla and read the pinned post first

[split saffron]

||Try to practice him on hall of gods, His Lunge and Three Strikes are the easies to dodge, I recommend ALWAYS jumping up and using wings when he teleports to either edge of the arena, that way you can dodge swords or make use of the lunge||

[split saffron]

Gl

[hybrid walrus]

alright thanks

[tidal jewel]

ty

[split saffron]

||There's a yellow glow that can be seen from outside the door, if that helps||

[hybrid walrus]

just so i know why am i asking in modding discussion?

mb if im being dense

[shut sparrow]

it's mostly for modding but since this server doesn't have a better channel for it and the people there are usually able to help it's also just for some technical issues regarding hk

[hybrid walrus]

ah ok thanks

[celest pewter]

under what condition does ||NKG|| do his ||fake an attack, back up, then dash attack for real|| move?

[shut sparrow]

||if you get too close too early||

[celest pewter]

ahh ok

i'm TOO AGGRESSIVE

[elfin egret]

what are some helpful tips for the super early game? i just got hollow knight and playing for 2 hours

[celest pewter]

• scrutinize every wall for weird textures, try to jump through things
• stay healed to full whenever you can
• take your time to understand the attacks of enemies
• keep note of strange places you apparently can't get to
• go back to town occasionally

[wheat kite]

What is the ||grimm troupe and am I ready for it if I have only one ending|| and how do I get it

[stoic cedar]

||get the map, quill, and wayward compass charm. they are extremely useful for exploration||

[shut sparrow]

||idk how much you have done so idk what you have done already.
The big main thing imo is the map and way to explore though. Learn to read it and don't give up. The map is incredibly important for you to not get lost and always find a way to progress if you're feeling stuck. If you get a new ability that might help you reach new places, go back to old areas, look at your map to check places that look like they have an unexplored exit or room and then check them out to see if you can progress now. Unexplored exits are those little "holes" in the walls of rooms on the map.||

achow is here

hello

[stoic cedar]

hello 👋

[shut sparrow]

my shift is over then

gn

[unreal forge]

||backtrack and pay attention to every detail. also visit npcs and locations just because. there’s a lot of interactions and dialogue you can get||

[wheat kite]

Wait

Answer my question

[wheat kite]

Use controller

[shut sparrow]

that's really subjective

[celest pewter]

||does someone necessarily have the dream nail if they've beaten HK once?||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[celest pewter]

ok I deleted my earlier reply becuase I thought I was spoiling too much, ||it's an important quest with super specific way to start it. You need the dream nail and use it on the "corspe of a large bug" in the howling cliffs||

[wheat kite]

@elfin egret why did you laugh at what I said

Controller is so much easier

[celest pewter]

game needs to keep track fo how many times I get hit by boss attacks vs how many times I just walk into fire on the ground

[shut sparrow]

||Grimm troupe is the name if the 3rd major update. It's a "quest" you start in howling cliffs behind a breakable wall. It can get pretty tough but at least the first part you should be able to do easily. Even if not, that's not a problem. You can start it now and continue once you feel strong enough||

[raven wedge]

Hey why did ||The hollow knights(?) face appear on my map||

[shut sparrow]

again that's subjective

[elfin egret]

not lauging at the tip just wondering why would be easier

[shut sparrow]

to mark something. You'll find out later why and what that means

[wheat kite]

Well it’s nice because all the key binds you can actually reach

[shut sparrow]

you can simply change keybinds on keyboard

[split saffron]

That's subjective, as much as I agree with you.

[raven wedge]

I just got the ||Dream nail I'm realizing now I could've gotten it like 5 hours ago I've had the tram pass forever||

[wheat kite]

So ||are they bosses?||

[shut sparrow]

part of it is boss fights

[split saffron]

||There is bosses, yes. The rest are Mini-bosses/enemies||

[shut sparrow]

||you can get it before dash||

[brazen galleon]

...ah crap.

[elfin egret]

i use the wasd to move, space to jump and the home row keys for everything else. that made sense for me at least

[celest pewter]

if you want to be objective about it, you can bind more keys to fingers than you can on the controllers, meaning it takes less time to reach bindings on keybaord+mouse, so it is strictly superior for being faster

[brazen galleon]

Im back here with one less hp

[wheat kite]

Do i get rewards

[celest pewter]

it is objectively faster to hit A and then D with two separate fingers than to move a dpad/joystick frmo the left to the right, so keyboard/mouse is strictly better in that sense

[split saffron]

Ye

[brazen galleon]

||soul tyrant|| screws me over with his last phase man

[shut sparrow]

||make sure to always jump and then dash right above the ground instead of just dashing||

[celest pewter]

mouse clicks have smaller travel time than bumpers/triggers and are better

[shut sparrow]

this is pretty much completely negligible

[celest pewter]

I didn't say it wasn't -- your skill/prediction will be a much larger factor, but if we're gonna get into the realm of arguing about bindings, kb/m is stictly objectively better

[elfin egret]

uh oh

[molten glen]

how to get to the rest of the areas? doors on both entrances are locked

[shut sparrow]

ok bye

[slate vapor]

yooiiii

[shut sparrow]

can't yet

[slate vapor]

it's the 4th for me

[brazen galleon]

Well that was sad

[errant otter]

?tag countdown

[languid radish]

No tag countdown found.

[errant otter]

Oh waht

[brazen galleon]

Now do I either try again or sleep for school

[errant otter]

Meh

[split saffron]

||Further deep in the game||

?tag countdown

[languid radish]

No tag countdown found.

[brazen galleon]

||Backtrack and go to areas you haven't explored yet||

[celest pewter]

probably only works in #sk-discussion ?

[split saffron]

nop

[molten glen]

i meant to the right

[shut sparrow]

you can't

[split saffron]

||You can't.||

[shut sparrow]

||I recommend you explore more crossroads again or the thing Sushant showed you||

[tame hound]

||why didnt i get an achievement for 112%?||?

[misty lodge]

||Beat the game ||

[tame hound]

i already have

well..

[misty lodge]

|| get any ending again to get that achievement if u got 112% ||

[tame hound]

i havent defeated ||absolute radiance||

but thats it

oh

[shut sparrow]

also make sure to roll through the credits

[misty lodge]

yeah

[exotic pier]

i died fighting some bug dude in forgotten crossroads, pretty sure youre supposed to have dash for his fight, is there any way to get my soul charge thing back to full?

[gentle obsidian]

Hi, one question: How can I find out when Silksong will be released in my country (Chile in my case)? 😭

[misty lodge]

which one?

[shut sparrow]

please use spoiler tags in this channel ||like this||

[celest pewter]

how are you writing that without it tagging? are those i's

[sterile ember]

you can check the steam page?
anyways theres a 12 hours countdown

[exotic pier]

||to the west of the vertical tunnel|| like the wiki said, the one that ||shoots the orange blobs in the sky||

[dusky oasis]

silksong releases 7am PT time, so just compare that to your own time zone

[split saffron]

Also the 4th, brother. In your case, Around 9-8 Am.

[near adder]

||i missed garpede, gorgeous husk and pale lurker ty||

[exotic pier]

i was looking for ||the grass area boss|| but stumbled on him instead

[tame hound]

where does this lead to

[shut sparrow]

I believe it's 10am in chile

[misty lodge]

||oh yeah leave him for now ||

[tame oracle]

||just beat radiacne, i wanna do godhome boss rush mode, do i need to beat every boss in the game normally before i unlock it?||

[split saffron]

||The final boss of P5, gotta get there first tho||

[exotic pier]

is there any way to get my coins back + the soul meter depletion

[split saffron]

||Yes, you need to defeat the bosses inside of the pantheos to unlock said pantheons. For all four, you do need to beat every boss||

[scenic ginkgo]

||Where do I need to go? I left deepnest because there was nothing there I could do right now because I needed the dream nail||

[torpid wadi]

It's 10am est is Chile est?

[celest pewter]

#sk-discussion message

[misty lodge]

do u have your shade there?

[tame oracle]

got it, does it tell me which bosses like i need to unlock?

[torpid wadi]

||right of fungal||

[shut sparrow]

\||like this\||

[exotic pier]

yeah in boss room

[misty lodge]

||Get your shade then quit the game you will spawn at bench ||

[split saffron]

||For which Pantheon?||

[tame hound]

||i just beat p4 and i cant find p5. i hit this shrine then something happened||

[tame oracle]

also if i wanna 112% the game do do i need to beat ||pantheon 5?||

[gentle obsidian]

I don't speak English and I can't reply to all the messages because they go up in the chat very quickly, but thank you very much for the help. 😭 ❤️

[split saffron]

||Check above the bench, the right side wall||

[split saffron]

De nada bro, con cuidado

[split saffron]

||Nope||

[tame oracle]

||wait i dont understand, do people go for all achievements or 112%? what is the main difference? how long does it take to beat them?||

[shut sparrow]

there are many bosses you don't need tho

[split saffron]

I am aware, yes. But It's mostly all, so I just went with it. If that's confusing, then my apologies

[scenic ginkgo]

U mean here?

[neat karma]

||achievements include more stuff than what 112% does, this includes p5||

[shut sparrow]

please don't specifically mention things they don't know

[split saffron]

||Yes||

[torpid wadi]

Yeah that part

[scenic ginkgo]

Ok

Thank you

[tame hound]

the floor above the bench? i see nothing

[shut sparrow]

||climb up the left wall above P4||

[near adder]

||does the hunters mark do anything or is it just an achievement||

[split saffron]

||Achievment||

[tame oracle]

is 112% just getting everyhting like ||spells|| charms and bosses? do i need to go to ||godhome||?

[misty lodge]

yes

[shut sparrow]

please tag ||spells||

[normal rain]

||100% for everything in Hallownest, 112% for Godmaster content ||

[tame hound]

||all i see is a little room with water||

[shut sparrow]

||you can see the amount of % you have at the end of the game. A lot of stuff counts towards %, including the stuff you mentioned, and a lot of stuff doesn't||

[shut sparrow]

look at the ceiling

[tame oracle]

||includes pantheon 5 right?||

[shut sparrow]

no

[normal rain]

No actually

[tame hound]

OH..

[molten glen]

||i already used the key from sly and the one you find in the city of tears, i dont know where else i can go to get another to unlock that entrance||

[normal rain]

I personally think|| Pantheon of Hallownest should give a theoretical 113%, but no it’s not required ||

[shut sparrow]

then go do the other thing first

||revisiting crossroads||

[twin yoke]

||You know people would go crazy trying to get it. It already has its own achievement||

[tame oracle]

you guys think its more worth it to ||112%, or all achievements?||

[twin yoke]

||112% is an achievement, but all achievements is impossible before silksong now||

[shut sparrow]

wdym "worth"? Whether something is worth it you need to decide based on the fun you had

[tame oracle]

oh shi

[torpid wadi]

Not really you don't need everything there for ||112||

[normal rain]

People already do. I think it should affect the max percentage

[tame oracle]

||i mean i dont know what im getting myself into, i enjoyed the game so far but idk how hard is pantheon 5 is||

[torpid wadi]

||It's pretty hard most ppl grind for 10+hrs at least||

[normal rain]

||Well, 112% isn’t required, and the other pantheons contribute to the %, so why not P5||?

[celest pewter]

||in NKG fight, how can I reliably hit him with my nail during his attack where he appears at sureface level then dashes across? I can avoid it, I just feel like a little bitch if I don't hit him in every sequence||

[shut sparrow]

it's very hard for a new player. It'll take you a few days, probably weeks.
If you don't find it fun you can always just stop tho so there's no risk

[tame oracle]

||like some games getting all achievements is very tedious and u just do bunch of repeated stuff, i was wondering if hollow knight is like that||

[torpid wadi]

||p5 can get tedious for sure||

[twin yoke]

Let go of these insecurities and just dodge.
Or ||dash away ans hit him right before he jumps up into the air||

[torpid wadi]

So can ||hunters mark kinda||

[tame oracle]

ok thank you chuck from brawl stars

[shut sparrow]

no..It gets it's difficulty from pure difficulty

[torpid wadi]

||Well doing all the earlier bosses can be annoying||

[brazen galleon]

Ok thus is my third and final attempt at ||pv,|| wish me luck

[twin yoke]

||You can knock a lot of them together, but P5 is just super difficult, and Steel Heart too tho I never struggled with it ||

[torpid wadi]

||Especially since they take up most the time||

[celest pewter]

good luck runner and may you find sanctuary

[twin yoke]

Third? They need more than that

[brazen galleon]

If I beat him ill sleep so happy today

[torpid wadi]

And you gotta repeat it a lot

[shut sparrow]

Well that's true I guess. But I still wouldn't compare it to collecting collectables for tens or hours

[brazen galleon]

||in p4||

[misty lodge]

||No p4 before silksong ||

[tame oracle]

how long did it take you to 112% the game?

[normal rain]

||My argument is that if the other pantheons each contribute to 112%, then TC should double down, because it makes more sense for P5 to give % then for it not to||

[torpid wadi]

||Ofc it's not completely boring you still have to pay attention early on but the entire time isn't fun||

[shut sparrow]

do one try imo

[twin yoke]

Like ||40 ish hours the first time then 22 the 2nd time, now i can get 100% in 10h ||

[torpid wadi]

Esp since your probably spending many hours on|| absrad ||as well

[torpid wadi]

That's insane

Did u go in blind?

[brazen galleon]

||I think p5 is more of a general challenge, I and alot of others believe it should stay as is||

[twin yoke]

No

[torpid wadi]

Oh makes sense

40 hrs blind run ||112|| would be wild

[twin yoke]

Yeah

[celest pewter]

for me it was about ||41 hours||

[normal rain]

Yeah, at the end of the day I believe it’s good either way

[tame oracle]

damn im 36 hours in and only 80% done

[celest pewter]

oh yeah, without hints on locations I missed I would never have gotten|| 112%|| full stop

[misty lodge]

||All dream bosses are so annoying||

[brazen galleon]

Oh hell no.

There is

No

INCONCEOVABLE

WAH

Way

That just happened.

I died, ||and I heard my WEAVERLINGS KILL HIM.||

WHY GAME

WHYYYYYYYYYYY

[celest pewter]

loool

[brazen galleon]

Nah screw this

Im trying avain

Again

[celest pewter]

that counts

go to sleep

silk song awaits

[brazen galleon]

Nope

It doesn't count, not completed

Screw this game

[torpid wadi]

why r u using ||weaverlings anyway||

[brazen galleon]

Im trying again

[celest pewter]

declare victory, delete save file

[brazen galleon]

||Weaverlings and grubsong are really nice for the soul harvest imo||

[celest pewter]

simply use nail only and never heal, no need for that stuff

[brazen galleon]

||considering I've literally gotten to pv 5 times consistently with it, and beat him once so far in HoG with the same loadout||

I think the issue is my bs skill issue

[celest pewter]

wait shouldn't you have him ||killable easily in HOG before attempting in pantheon run?||

[brazen galleon]

||nah we ball ong||

[celest pewter]

fuck yea

[twin yoke]

This goes for any hard boss

[brazen galleon]

So uh.

[celest pewter]

it does feel cheap, turns a reactive/learning battle into a mere execution exercise

[brazen galleon]

I just died to|| enraged guardian lmao||

[near adder]

||i believe ive finished 3 of the ?5? endings, seal myself with the hollow knight, seal myself and hornet, defeat the radiance and consume the light, what do i have to do to get the other 2?||

[celest pewter]

the tilt is real

[brazen galleon]

||we love godhome||

(No I dont)

[torpid wadi]

||find an npc in junk pit, subarea of waterways||

[near adder]

||does the godhome endings have any importance to the lore?||

[torpid wadi]

you will figure out th rest

[celest pewter]

||the others involve beating an extremeley difficult and lengthy challenge you will not do before silksong||

[brazen galleon]

..kinda

[brazen galleon]

Nah trust he got this

[near adder]

||thats why i ask if theyre lore relevant, i wanna watch a lore video and just play silksong tomorrow lol||

[twin yoke]

Good luck ||beating p5 with that attitude lol||

TC: gives you a whole game mechanic
Someone: uh that's cheating

Sorry but like, cmon

[celest pewter]

||i know, it's more a criticism of the game, that you can't realistically beat things on the first few tries on raw skill / reading alone and have to go practice and have precognition on all the moves||

[twin yoke]

That's just how the game was designed

[celest pewter]

yes, and I criticize it for that

[polar ingot]

i’m new to hk any tips or does anyone wanna vc while i play through?

[twin yoke]

||They are no different than over world bosses, you just can't realistically make the run back every time so you have to use the hall of gods||

[neat karma]

the most useful tip i can give you right now is to explore a lot lot, once you get yourself a map youll be able to see holes in the walls of rooms inside of it, always head to those as that means unexplored places

other than that dont be afraid to ask here for help if you need it, as long as you use spoiler tags of course

[celest pewter]

someone asked that a few mins ago, see some replies: #hk-help message

#hk-help message

#hk-help message

#hk-help message

[near adder]

||by extremely difficult and lengthy challenge does this include the LARGE amount of boss refights per chance||

[unreal forge]

i’ve given out some tips earlier if you want to go back and look but another tip i’ll give out is to build up and save your geo and use it on things you need

[celest pewter]

||yes||

[torpid wadi]

would you rather the game was easier?

[near adder]

||yah we playin silk song without 100%ing hollow knight||

[unreal forge]

||you’ll run into an area where you can actually store your geo eventually within your play through and even though i personally never used that mechanic, i recommend it bc things get pricey @polar ingot||

[near adder]

i mean iwas never gonna 100% it before silk song anyways, esp with the beat ||soul steel|| 100% how tf do u do that

[celest pewter]

worth trying it for as many hours as you care to spend this evening

[brazen galleon]

[near adder]

||ive gotten like 20 achievements in 2 days i think thats enough before i get burned out lmao||

[brazen galleon]

I hope ||markoth gets the same treatment the children in the abyss do||

||genuine prick||

[celest pewter]

yeah, IMO games like this should be tuned to let you learn the battle enough the first 1-3 times to beat it -- not require a zillion tries, deliberate practice to learn the move sets and memorize it all, to me that's kinda lazy although I appreciate that some people prefer that. Like anyone can just be "heh, i increased the damage/hp/speed/projectiles by 100x, let's see those players beat my hard game now", it's much more interesting and challenging to design a game where your resources allow you a certain number of "learning mistakes" in the very fight to figure things out, with appropriate cues and everything. There are examples of both of these things in this game

[twin yoke]

HK isn't different from the souls games with bosses

Cue the 300 tries on x boss in elden ring

[celest pewter]

that's what I mean by "games like this" yes, DS/ER are beatable without a zillion tries

I mean melania is an exception depending on your build?

(and I had the same criticism then)

[twin yoke]

PC Radahn

Darkeater Midir

Etc

Nine Sols

This is just how these games operate

[celest pewter]

they are hard but you can be strong enough when you reach them to be able to absorb enough "learning experiences" to win within a decent number of tries

[neat karma]

the thing about this game is that it is a metroidvania

[celest pewter]

without having to document and memorize every possible attack like you do with ||NKG/PV||

[neat karma]

you arent always mean to beat them as soon as you reach them

[celest pewter]

yeah we're not talking about the case where you reach a boss early

[twin yoke]

You do that with every boss tho, ||PV and NKG just are the pinnacle of challenge||

[neat karma]

you can, but kinda the entire point usually is to go back to other places, get stronger, and then fight it

this applies to almost every boss with the exception of ||godhome but godhome is mid anyway||

[celest pewter]

ER has that giant worm boss in the first room or whatever lol

[final flare]

im uing the save completion analyzer to check my progress, to get the 112% achievement do i have to complete gane status (44%) or the true completion (33.58%)

[neat karma]

the first one

also damn

i think youre a bit too early to worry about that rn

[celest pewter]

yeah, revisit again when ||the game tells you "your completion % is now available in inventory screen"||

until then, coast

[final flare]

well the whole point i play HK was i made a promise to my friend and per his request, cus he cant shut up about it for years on end about this game, he would play my games and i play his, and his requirement is me beating the game with this achievement, so here i am, well the game is cute and nice, i just never cared for this genre

[modern stratus]

GUYS || I was putting my new charm then I realized I don’t have space but saw that the purple thing was getting bigger so I did more now I’m over charmed what do I do and what changed||?

[final flare]

from little what i know of ||overcharmed is that you can use that charm but you take double dmg||

[modern stratus]

Hell nah sorry fam

[celest pewter]

oh damn, well, it still applies, it's probably most efficient to just slam through the game and then use wiki/tools to figure out what you missed in retrosepct when it's easier to go back while strong ||basically you need all the bosses, charms, grubs, etc. and some post endgame challenge||

[regal bronze]

how do i progress to get 112 || all i did so far was find all the grubbys beat hollow guy and found a couple of charms and got all the skills and abilities||

[twin yoke]

||You can keep the charm you put but now take double damage. Just take it off. Don't overcharm when you're a new player.||

[twin yoke]

Check the completion tracker

Online

[minor anchor]

^

[brazen galleon]

Im gonna ||ddive myself off a cliff||

[final flare]

here the link if u need it, wellthe one i use anyway ||https://reznormichael.github.io/hollow-knight-completion-check/||

[modern stratus]

Ok but which to choose the || blue heart seeping one or the double soul||?

[modern stratus]

ok

[twin yoke]

||Soul Catcher? Yeah that one's better than Lifeblood heart||

[brazen galleon]

Whoever invented ||PV needs to go to a mental asylum permanently||

[twin yoke]

Best fight in the game

[brazen galleon]

||doesn't he meant the upgraded ones||

[twin yoke]

Unironically

[brazen galleon]

Maybe after I get 112

[twin yoke]

I have no clue I just guessed

[brazen galleon]

Im not getting it before skong am i...

[modern stratus]

You sure?

[celest pewter]

simply int into him with your sword as aggressively as possible ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPmGtxBALnE||

[modern stratus]

Eh

No spoiler

[twin yoke]

||Lifeblood heart is terrible. Fragile heart is much better||

[regal bronze]

how to do

it's not letting me click on anything

[clear spire]

Aaaaa i thought i was done with ||deepnest|| but then i noticed i am missing the final ||pale ore||

[modern stratus]

I was gonna buy ||longnail|| but I got the cheaper one first n boom geo drained

[brazen galleon]

It's not the damage it's the fact I can't dodge for sh*t

[twin yoke]

It's that big of a deal dw. Get ||shaman stone||

[neat karma]

||tbh longnail isnt really that good||

[modern stratus]

The 3 one

Crazy

[twin yoke]

Literally top tier

One of the absolute best in the game

[modern stratus]

I play melee

[minor anchor]

|| Sharp shadow makes him a joke ||

[celest pewter]

yeah just hit things screw that

[brazen galleon]

nah bro ||kingsoul is s tier||

[modern stratus]

n I just beat ||hornet|| chill

[neat karma]

||spells do a lot lot of damage, you should learn them||

[twin yoke]

||Spells are super powerful||

[modern stratus]

After 25 hours

[brazen galleon]

Haha. You think I haven't been using it?

[clear spire]

Am i the only one that can't play ||with spells|| properly

[modern stratus]

Alright

But who do I use them against

Genuinely no one’s worthy

[brazen galleon]

Everything

[neat karma]

anything you need to do ||high damage to, like a tanky enemy or a boss||

[twin yoke]

Oh you'll see

[brazen galleon]

Yeah......nobody..

[minor anchor]

They’re situational for me. I use nail mainly

[twin yoke]

I play hybrid

[brazen galleon]

Im gonna throw my controller across the room

Ong

This ACTUAL ||Pure DOGSHOOT||

[clear spire]

Same, the frames where you cant move but are vulnerable feels so weird

[celest pewter]

controller? well there's your problem, simply relearn the game on superior keyboard/mouse

[modern stratus]

Where do I go after || greenpath ||

[final flare]

u just slap ||longnail and mark of pride for reach, i just got heavy blow too||

[modern stratus]

?

[brazen galleon]

||backtrack to crossroads||

[minor anchor]

I also like to mix it up and try different charms

[twin yoke]

||PV was a brick wall for me ngl. But I love their fight now. I did them hitless once.||

[final flare]

i do have to say it is quite infuriating trying to down slash and got side slash

[regal bronze]

nvm i figured it out thanks for the link thing twin ❤️

[coarse nest]

[brazen galleon]

Nah I wanna do it the console way, also I'm more comfortable with jf

[twin yoke]

||Fungal Wastes||

[modern stratus]

That’s very odd

[brazen galleon]

Maybe pancakes will help

[modern stratus]

The what

[clear spire]

Explore the first area or try to explore your current one. Talk to npcs in ||Dirtmouth|| if you need some guidance

[celest pewter]

i run into that on pc too because of the ambiguity in my mind, very frustrating that all the things are bound to the same buttons (movement + facing + attack facing)

[twin yoke]

||Go there from crossroads||

[modern stratus]

Yeah this is gonna take a lot of going in empty places in the map

[clear spire]

||Forgotten Crossroads/the area that you entered with a well||

[brazen galleon]

how do I install mods on ps4 so I can cheat ||pv|| I just can't anymore..

This is so frustrating, and Im a gd player

[final flare]

i dont think u can on ps4 ?

[celest pewter]

you already killed him bro

[clear spire]

Is it even possible to mod a ps4

[modern stratus]

No

[brazen galleon]

Ffffffffffff

[celest pewter]

ps4? well there's your problem, simply play on PC

[brazen galleon]

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[modern stratus]

Never

[brazen galleon]

no bro I gotta 112% before skong

Ok

Just

1 more try...

[clear spire]

Take a break the game is out in 12 hours

Or idk

Timezones

[final flare]

sound like a reasonable time to get 112%, both got 12 in it

[clear spire]

Ill just try to finish the game for my side at least xd

||Traitor lord and watcher knights were so time consuming||

[brazen galleon]

Cool

I just died to ||lost kin||

Goodnight

[minor anchor]

Na bro

Go beat it

U got this

[supple summit]

does anyone know where the ||city storeroom|| is from here

[neat karma]

||that is the place just below where it says "city of tears||

[supple summit]

This place?

[neat karma]

just that general area, ||round the stag and the room below it||

[supple summit]

|| and this is where i use the simple key to progress the main story right?||

[neat karma]

no, but you find one there

[terse flare]

for the ||"happy couple" badge is there anything i have to do, besides to not kill the nailsmith?|| (||and go to the paint great shlash dude)||

[misty lodge]

||Talk to him where he is ||

[terse flare]

mhk thanks

[torpid wadi]

Just sit on a ||bench|| along the way

[jaunty copper]

i love clicking all the black bubbles in this channel

[torpid wadi]

Save or spend

[terse flare]

have you|| bought everything?||

[torpid wadi]

Then wait for smth to spend on

[terse flare]

||buy em, after theres really nothing sadly. they should lowk add gambling to silksong to solve this||

[neat karma]

please use spoiler tags for all ingame things in this chat

see below

[languid radish]

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[neat karma]

anyway like nothing of what you have is good at all

[terse flare]

you didnt buy that?

[neat karma]

if anything only ||spore shroom and baldurs are salvageable||

"nothing to spend on"
"oh no i do have stuff to spend on, i lied, but like ive nothing to spend on"

[terse flare]

||:O for sure do that after. but for now, not much. save up for that dlc though, i think the total cost is like 30k or sum crazy idk i forgot||

[terse flare]

[mild estuary]

||Does anyone have a good early (ish) charm build? I'm currently running the wayward compass, thorns of agony, baldur shell, and spore shroom.||

||I know wayward compass is bad but this is my first playthrough and I know where nothing is.||

[misty lodge]

what else do you have

[mild estuary]

||fury of the fallen, steady body, mark of pride, dashmaster, and soul catcher||

[neat karma]

well you shouldve said so, here i had assume thats all youhad

||steady body, mark of pride, and soul catcher are all good, dashmaster can also be useful when traveling||

[mild estuary]

||I'm gonna buy some stuff from salubra at some point||

[neat karma]

buy ||shaman stone from her, and quickfocus||

both also great

[maiden pecan]

||Gonna be at the slots after every mission🤑||

[tame oracle]

how to get into these areas?

[mild estuary]

||I just acquired the grubsong, is it any good?||

[misty lodge]

||have you explored ancient basin? ||

[tame oracle]

||yeah i beat the radiance im just tryna explore some places i missed||

[misty lodge]

||you go through the right hole i think ||

[tame oracle]

||theres like nothing there no opening, and the one on the left i cant wall hop for somereason||

let me check again

[modest elm]

You don’t. They’re ways to fall down from above

[valid mauve]

Where should I go after || resting grounds?||

[tame oracle]

||wait how do i go to the place where i fall down

[modest elm]

Look for a way up

[modest elm]

If you’ve gotten an item of interest from there, the unexplored parts of the map.

[modest elm]

You already went there. You can just fall there by going off the cliff up top

[tame oracle]

||wait let me try that||

[modest elm]

There’s nothing except the fall

well, unless you missed the item at the top - did you?

[valid mauve]

which item