hk-help

[bleak gale]

are you playing a pirated version or something

[buoyant elm]

What is this😭

[buoyant elm]

The classic anti-piracy measure

No im not I bought it

[misty lodge]

ah yes || invisible vessel ||

[buoyant elm]

No mods

[bleak gale]

then i got no clue

[buoyant elm]

MY WORST NIGHTMARE😭

[past wedge]

how do i make the menderbug appear? is it a small chance or?

[bleak gale]

what platform are you playing on

[buoyant elm]

Small chance, keep trying

[bleak gale]

2% chance every time you enter the area

[buoyant elm]

Pc

[past wedge]

holy moly

[buoyant elm]

After breaking the sign

[bleak gale]

try verifying integrity of your files idk

[buoyant elm]

This wasn’t a problem before😭

[bleak gale]

well just try it

or try reinstalling the game

[past wedge]

||must i always use desolate dive or can i just go down, break it and go up again?||

[bleak gale]

use spoiler tags here btw please

[past wedge]

oh okay mb

[buoyant elm]

You can do that but you won’t kill them if you don’t dive

[bleak gale]

||they're very difficult to hit unless you dive||

[red raven]

is there anyway to use dualsense controller on steam version of the game with the playstation buttom prompts?

[past wedge]

||is it a must to kill them? cant i just go down and hit them with nail or sum||

[bleak gale]

they fly away right after you get close. after falling down the well youre also not able to move for a second so they'll get away

[wheat kite]

what are the minimum ||spell upgrades and charms|| i should get for ||watcher knights||

[hearty bough]

Is there a good way to farm geo i saw some amulet that can help do so and is it worth it ( ||i just beated hornet|| )

[bleak gale]

spoiler tags btw

[dapper sage]

the boss was spoilered

[bleak gale]

the charm isnt that worth it since youll get a much better method later and it becomes more common later

[bleak gale]

i clicked it and couldnt tell mb

actually i think ||spell|| is supposed to be spoilered but whatever

[hearty bough]

Alr and what charm do you recommend for now?

[bleak gale]

not rly a minimum but i would recommend ||the upgraded vengleful spirit and dive along with shaman stone||

[past wedge]

||use gathering swarm and unbreakable greed, or just greed if u dont have it unbreakable yet.||

[bleak gale]

||they just beat hornet they're very far off from that||

[hearty bough]

Clover said to wait for now

[past wedge]

||mb i beat the game a long ago, dont remember much||

[bleak gale]

but yeah use like ||wayward compass and gathering swarm if you want geo. stuff like soul catcher is nice and theres a charm shop in bottom right crossroads you should look at||

[past wedge]

||yeah u dont need much geo rn anyways, i personally would focus on mastering nail arts and getting all spells||

[hearty bough]

||Sadly i’m playing on console otherwise i would mod the game just to make the compass take 0 charm slots it just doesn’t make sense to me||

[bleak gale]

they just beat ||hornet. they dont have access to any of that stuff rn lol||

[past wedge]

||really? i remember getting my first nail art shortly after beating hornet||

[bleak gale]

no they're all pretty far off from that

more around midgame to lategame while they're still early game

[past wedge]

oh mb then

[dapper sage]

currently in mid game where I'm about to start ||collecting dreamers and bosses and I don't know where to find the initial wraith spell. I know where the upgraded version is just not the first form||

[past wedge]

i tend to rush games so almost everything ends up being early game for me

[bleak gale]

you wanna know?

[dapper sage]

yes

[bleak gale]

||fog canyon||

[hearty bough]

My game is in another language so it’s very likely that i have no clue what ur talking about even when i see it so don’t worry

[dapper sage]

ty

[kindred whale]

It’s ||in queens gardens||

[bleak gale]

theres an exit on the left of one of the rooms idr where

[upbeat river]

||i defeated the mantis, where do i get my prize?||

[past wedge]

||very cool nail skills that u get from some fat brothers scattered around the map. there are 3 of them||

[sullen niche]

left

[bleak gale]

go back up and on the right there'll be a room youre not locked out of now

[bleak gale]

this mf just spoiling stuff for the heck of it smh

[upbeat river]

OHHH HELP oh i went the WRONG WAY

[past wedge]

well i put the spoiler thing didnt i

[bleak gale]

" Help should only relate to questions being asked, don't add unnecessary spoilers unless it directly answers a user's question. Only give constructive tips."

[hearty bough]

||I also found the old bug in front of a campfire if it has better charms||

[bleak gale]

the tags are so you dont spoil people not part of the conversation but you still shouldnt spoil random stuff for the person youre helping

[hearty bough]

Bruh

[bleak gale]

those are good but they're ||fragile. it means if you die then they break and you have to go back to the npc and pay money to use them again||

which is the tradeoff for them being so good

[hearty bough]

||thank god i asked you i hate those mechanics maybe when i can farm geo i will use them||

[acoustic otter]

im not sure what to do, im deep into my p5 run ||nkg|| and my xbox controller dc'd from laptop, I cant get the game to recognize that its re-paired and I dont want to end the run being unable to play controller

obv if i quit the game via menu, itll make me restart the run completely

[runic loom]

Best way to put this you migbt be lowkey cooked

[upbeat river]

||is there any weapon upgrades? If so how do I get any?||

sorry :3 wasn’t sure

[acoustic otter]

waiting for the "ever played keyboard before"?

[bleak gale]

where are you in the game

[upbeat river]

people don’t? (i have been)

[upbeat river]

||just beat the mantis lords!||

[runic loom]

I have a pc at my dads and an xbox at mu mums so i can do either lol

[acoustic otter]

i started on switch when it first released

never played without a controler

[bleak gale]

||not sure if youve been there yet but theres an npc in the city that you can upgrade at||

[runic loom]

Honestly i prefer nkg on keyboard

[upbeat river]

||oh wait really? i don’t think so, i’ve only ever bought from the map lady.. how do i get to the npc?||

[bleak gale]

have you been to the ||city?||

[misty lodge]

Go left

[upbeat river]

||errrr.. if you mean the one above the crossroads i think? unless we’re not talking about the right thing||

[bleak gale]

dont think youve been there then

[hearty bough]

But once ||i die do i have to pay to see them again or do i have to re-buy the charm again?||

[runic loom]

Thats dirtmoutb

[bleak gale]

its right from ||fungal wastes||

[runic loom]

||uou get them repaired||

[upbeat river]

oooh i see, okay i’ll try and find it

[bleak gale]

||its broken and you have to pay to repair it at the npc. it costs less than the initial buy cost||

[uncut stag]

How many times can you fight ||grey prince zote||? And is there a reason in doing so

[kindred whale]

Masochism

[runic loom]

||as many tjmes as you want, but to get all the ‘rewards’ its 10 times||

[bleak gale]

cool statue

[mighty badger]

Until u fill up the titles

[uncut stag]

I've beat him 4 times now

[upbeat river]

OH is it where the ||hornet|| went?

[hearty bough]

Oh alr it isn’t that bad i only died one time for now and it was from a ||a mushroom shooting homing nukes i thought that only one could follow me at a time but it has almost no delay and it even deals 2 souls of damage||

[misty lodge]

yes

[upbeat river]

OKAY YEAH i haven’t been

[bleak gale]

yeah

[uncut stag]

damn 5 damage per hit

Is there like a cap or does it just keep going until it's one hit

[sullen niche]

@mossy orchid if you want a bit more direction of where to go ask here if not exploring on your own also works

[misty lodge]

Keeps going

[bleak gale]

up to 8

[upbeat river]

is this important at all?

[bleak gale]

on the 10th

[bleak gale]

later

[uncut stag]

There's no way

That's just one hit at that point without ||unbreakable heart||

[bleak gale]

||max masks is 9 btw||

[misty lodge]

||you get 9 masks if u get all masks shards ||

[static shadow]

How far into the game are you?

[bleak gale]

||only up to fungal and just beat mantis lords||

[upbeat river]

||just after the mantis boss!||

[uncut stag]

I have them all

[static shadow]

||It's not too important, but it's related to an item that you get later||

[upbeat river]

ooh okay!

[thin mason]

any tips?
||trying to finish every radiant boss before silksong releases, just finished markoth but i cant even do ascended radiance much less radiant ||

[wraith warren]

dont ||overcharm|| until you ||are fighting radiant||

[thin mason]

||oh that was just from markoth||

[gaunt lily]

Can I beat the mines with no light or did I fuck myself by going there?

[wraith warren]

||use spoiler tags|| also yes

[gaunt lily]

Thx for the spoiler tag!

[bleak gale]

what charms you using

[gaunt lily]

And the info

[static shadow]

||Getting the lantern is recommended, as by the time you get it you are at the intended point to enter it||

[somber hill]

The image contains massive late game spoilers and isn’t tagged pls delete and u can resend if u want and yea she is hella annoying I haven’t even beaten her once I’ve done all other bosses fully

[bleak gale]

its tagged bestie

[somber hill]

Wtf phone is auto unspoilering image

?

[bleak gale]

that happens sometimes its goofy

[somber hill]

I reloaded and it was I tagged which is why I asked

[thin mason]

||shaman stone, steady body, quick slash, strength, soul eater||

[neat karma]

mobile shitcord bugged as always

[bleak gale]

damn peak

[thin mason]

its fine i removed it anyways

[somber hill]

The 1st time I scrolled it was I tagged and I questioned it

[somber hill]

Ur good dw

[bleak gale]

what phase do you find hardest

[thin mason]

||third phase with the platforms||

[tame hound]

||whats the name of the npc that sells the strength charm in greenpath||?

[upbeat river]

||im in the city of tears at the statue, what now? how do i get to that npc?||

[misty lodge]

Go left

[wraith warren]

||leg eater||

[bleak gale]

||stay near the bottom and only go for her if she comes to the bottom three middle platforms. jump over to her and shriek or do upslashes. if her eyes glow then use ddark for i frames to avoid the first wave of swords or beams and do a lot of damage. you can also stand on the edge of the middle platform and shriek her if shes on the left or right platform from you. if she does orbs then you can just upslash spam then ddark to avoid the orb, slash, ddark, slash, ddark for each orb.||

[final pond]

||It says my shade is over here but I can’t find it.||

[misty lodge]

||Left of the first elevator||

||Which brings you to the ground ||

[thin mason]

ok tysm im gonna save this and try it out

[upbeat river]

found it!

aw man i ||don’t have enough geo ||

[misty lodge]

|| city enemies give enough geo||

[upbeat river]

OH okay

[final pond]

||I’ve checked the whole room and gotten the treasure but it’s still no where to be found||

[wraith warren]

sometimes ts game glitches

[hearty bough]

Where can i get ||more eggs for jiji (i beated hornet and i died in mushrooms caves before finding the map man) and i already wasted the egg that you buy to see what she did||

[misty lodge]

|| theres also a npc in the building near statue you can sell him journal and other relics if u have any ||

[upbeat river]

omg okay

[misty lodge]

Only sell when you need money

[wraith warren]

||secret room in a future area||

[hearty bough]

Are those a limited resource?

[wraith warren]

no

[olive cairn]

||her when she launching foward that attack where she dashes foward in the air of the ground some times it’s gets me off guard since she too darn fast i don’t have that quick of a reaction time to evade it||

[vague tartan]

||i beat nkg what now||

[neat karma]

||get all charms, mask shards, soul vessels, and nail upgrades||

[vague tartan]

||ok thanks||

[final hound]

how did u beat ||the soul warrior dude who summons flying annoyances|| i gotta know bro i want my ||shade soul||

[neat karma]

||what charms are you using? can you send a screenshot||

[final hound]

no, but i got ||shaman stone steady body and revenge of the fallen or whatever tis called, normally i have the soul gathering one and wayward compass but i figured these would be better for this fight||

[neat karma]

||soul catcher is going to help you more for this than fury of the fallen tbh||

have you completed the ||soul sanctum area thats right besides or not||

[final hound]

really? it doesnt let me heal and i get enough soul that i almost never try to use a spell but cant

[final hound]

yes

ive done ||crystal peak|| too

i just backtracked cuz i got the ||exquisite key|| or whatever its called

[wheat kite]

I cannot for the life of me beat ||the watcher knights|| what do i do

[neat karma]

wdym by this

[vague tartan]

||time your attacks for when he lunges afterwards, attack smart, he doesnt stagger so try and get hit as least as possible||

[frigid hawk]

||Where can I get more charm notches?||

[neat karma]

theres a ||charm in soul sanctum that can also help you a lot but im unsure if you have it||

[final hound]

i cant find any opportunity in the fight to heal and not get punished

[neat karma]

no i meant the latter part of the message

[final hound]

i dont mind minor spoilers, tell me the name

[neat karma]

||its called spell twister||

[final hound]

i hit him enough with the nail that when i try to use a spell i almost never can

[final hound]

oh ye i think i have that

[vague tartan]

||or buy them if you havent bought them all already||

[final hound]

reduces spell cost right

[vague tartan]

yup

[final hound]

would that be useful?

[frigid hawk]

||I have only explored until Mantis Village.||

[neat karma]

||spell needs tags, you should use spell twister and use desolate dive a lot since it does way more damage than your vengeful spirit while giving you some invincibility||

[neat karma]

please use spoiler tags for all ingame content in this chat

[frigid hawk]

First playthrough.

[neat karma]

see below

[languid radish]

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We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[final hound]

ik it realy surprised me when ||i used that and some attacks went right through me||

also ||i got lumafly lantern so if u think its worth i could also go get descending dark||

[neat karma]

||please spoiler tag this message aswell, for your question though, you can find notches all around the world, if you want a hint on some you can probably get right now||
||somewhere on upper fungal wastes||
||and on the bottom right side of crossroads||

[final hound]

ik it can be done without ||lumafly lantern|| but i aint doin allat

[neat karma]

?tag uncspoilers @vague tartan

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[vague tartan]

sorry

im not really good at using the spoiler thing

[neat karma]

also you should most definitely focus in exploration rather than progression, going too far into the main story without exploring much means that youll find yourself underleveled for a lot of fights and areas

[final hound]

LOOK AT THIS DUDE

also spoiler that

anyway

buddy

[cobalt hollow]

oh shi

[final hound]

atp

just leave

[neat karma]

its ||by far the best spell in the game, go get that right now ||

[final hound]

u aint built for this

[cobalt hollow]

ye bro

it's cause

[neat karma]

also this channel isnt for random shitposts

[cobalt hollow]

wait

[final hound]

oke 👌 thanks for all the help

[cobalt hollow]

how do you

spoiler messages

I'll just delete it tbh

[languid radish]

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We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[final hound]

so u said i should use ||spell twister|| right

[final hound]

put || around them

[neat karma]

and a lot lot ||of dives||

[cobalt hollow]

ohh right

[dusky sonnet]

Ngl all u need for the ||soul warrior is a good nail and a few spells whenever he spawns above u just move out of the way and when he lunges at u jump and pogo off of him and whenever he shoots his spell things jump over them and they will most likely end up hitting the ground,and use spells whenever u can they are good||

[final hound]

got it thx :D

[final hound]

ik but the ||moving arena hazards that chase me|| are really why im struggling

im talking about the one on the path to ||shade soul||

[neat karma]

you could also get something else to help, ||but its not just gonna solve it all and its quite a big detour||

[final hound]

i might already have it

what is it

[neat karma]

a charm

||called defenders crest||

[final hound]

im p sure i heard about that somewhere what does it even do

[dusky sonnet]

Whenever he shoots it at u just don't try to move left and right just stand sill and jump whenever it gets close it's after that u can just forget it ever exists because it will just hit the ground or a wall

[final hound]

like ||emits a heroic aura|| or smth

[final hound]

no i mean the ||flying abominations that he spawns the second time u encounter him||

[dusky sonnet]

If he cannot beat ||soul warrior I do not think he will be able to get defenders crest||

[final hound]

i beat the first one ez >:(

[coarse nest]

||soul warrior 2 tho||

[final hound]

anyway im really doing all this to prepare for mantis lords soooo xD

[dusky sonnet]

||Soul warrior is the thing u are suffering with it's the name of the thing guarding shade soul||

[final hound]

the dark part isnt the main path

[neon cliff]

every room is so dark

[final hound]

js explore more

[dusky sonnet]

Quit the game and come back u should spawn at a ||bench|| some where

[neon cliff]

oh my bad i forgot to spoil

[cunning drum]

hi, idk how to progress from here. everything is locked behind some key or some abilities such as dashing or double jumping, I'm guessing. I already defeated ||False Knight|| and ||Mother Bug something||. I don't know what to do now.

[neon cliff]

i’ve already rested in here so that’s not an option

[neat karma]

explore all empty holes in your map

[cunning drum]

I did, there's nothing to do there

[neat karma]

i can see several, but the most important ones are those ||directly left of you||

[cunning drum]

I don't know where

[dusky sonnet]

||Send screenshot of where u are ig or a screenshot of ur map||

[cunning drum]

||I already rescued the bug there then there's nothing left||

[final hound]

the one who doesnt spawn the ||flying abominations|| on the way to ||soul master|| was easy but the one on the side path after using ||elegant key|| on the way to ||shade soul|| is uber annoying cuz the ||flying abominations he spawns are just moving arena hazards|| and prevent me from punishing most of the attacks correctrly

[neon cliff]

i read somewhere i could go there to get out but i was lied to

[neat karma]

wdym?

theres nothing to ||rescue on the left||

[dusky sonnet]

Go to the room with the big drop

[cunning drum]

||there's like a bug in a jar at the end of the parkour||

[neat karma]

oh you mean a ||grub||

[cunning drum]

||yeah whatever the bug's name is||

[neat karma]

still theres ||empty spaces to your left both which you havent even gone through||

so you cant just say theres nothing there when you havent been there

[cunning drum]

||i swear there's something blocking me, i already explored there and tried to find a way, let me try again, I forgot what was my obstacle||

[neat karma]

||you should go back to dirtmouth at some time and buy the map markers, make use of them to put at places you cannot go through and want to remember for later||

[dusky sonnet]

||U don't have wings soo going there prob won't help u ur best choice is to go back to the left to the room right under the words crystal peak and cdash from there to get out ||

[final hound]

@dusky sonnet the ||soul warrior who spawns these dudes||

[neon cliff]

i don’t have that

[final hound]

thats who im struggling on

[coarse nest]

Also idk if ||defender's crest helps with the follies, they have nontrivial health right?
Afaik that's only a later boss||

[neat karma]

?tag uncspoilers @dusky sonnet

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[cunning drum]

||there's nothing down here, the upper stage I couldn't reach and seems to require some extra mobility ability that I don't have atm||

[dusky sonnet]

Ah these I completely forgot about them well idk what to say to help u I just kinda instantly kill them whenever they spawn soo they don't annoy me

[cunning drum]

wrong image

[final hound]

i cant kill them in one hit ;-;

[cunning drum]

there's nothing down here, the upper stage I couldn't reach etc

[neat karma]

explore all ||empty holes in your map, you have two on the middle right||

[neat karma]

i never said down

i said left

[cunning drum]

what greenpath

[neon cliff]

got it

[neat karma]

@final hound ^

[coarse nest]

Then get stronger and come back later, it's much easier if you can one shot them

[final hound]

sorry i shouldve spoilered

[neat karma]

dont worry about anything

[eternal tusk]

go to the places under the ||grubfather||

[dusky sonnet]

He wanted to get out and he doesn't even have ||lantern I ain't gonna make bro explore the darkness soo I just gave him the answer||

[cunning drum]

I couldn't reach it, it's too far

[dusky sonnet]

I recently did another play through and did suffer with that soo I just hit them twice 👍

[cunning drum]

Yeah, I have the ||Press A to kamehameha||

[neat karma]

dawg there was no reason two spoil two abilities they didnt have, jsut guide them along the direction they need to go

[neat karma]

try again, both of those transitions are reachable

[cunning drum]

It's definitely not

[neat karma]

talking about this room in case you thought it was somewhere else

[final hound]

oke then ill give u a hint, look at the things that poke off the main path that u havent gone to yet

[dusky sonnet]

I thought they got ||cdash since they explored the room or did I read the map wrong but u are 100% right about the wings part||

[neat karma]

it definitely is

[final hound]

u should find the next area

[neat karma]

||cdash room is way bigger, they havent||

[cunning drum]

IT'S NOT, I SWEAR I TRIED MORE THAN TEN TIMES

[neat karma]

youre just ignoring me

[final hound]

yeah u need a separate ability for that

[neat karma]

i quite literally said, not down, left

and then i sent a screenshot of the room i told you thrice about

[neon cliff]

those areas are like pitch black i can’t enter and one has a gate

[cunning drum]

you mean the ||elevator||?

[neat karma]

LEFT

[cunning drum]

okay

[neat karma]

middle-left

[neat karma]

you can see that ||the one that has a gate seems to have another path coming from above ||

[coarse nest]

This room @cunning drum

[vague tartan]

||guys what do i use for radiant troupe master grimm||

[final hound]

1. u should spoiler that
2. let him find it on his own bro

getting lost is part of the experience

ive found so many useful things cuz i got lost

[cunning drum]

FINALLY

I saw it

[final hound]

fine well then youll figure out what to do when u get there

[neon cliff]

ilysm bro thank you

[cunning drum]

I still first wandered to the ||giant hole bug room|| before realizing

i'm bad with navigation

I thought to myself ||do I need to defeat this giant bug to proceed||

[final hound]

no :D

[cunning drum]

yea i realized

[humble gazelle]

hey guys how do i use the spoiler hider bar

[neat karma]

read below

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[humble gazelle]

oki doke

testing- ||This is a spoiler.|| >

alr tysm

im having trouble with ||pantheon 3|| >

[stark barn]

what do with this

[neat karma]

nothing yet

[warped kite]

You need to have a certain thing but it doesn't seem like you have it for now so just ignore it

[neat karma]

veryyy late, dont worry about it

[stark barn]

kk

can i get to the ||map fella|| if i dont get rid of it in the ||foggy wasteland area|| or nah

i hear him right under itr

darn

[final flare]

wait, what happened to my image ?

[stark barn]

can i get to the ||dreamer|| dude without getting past it? or nah

[neat karma]

@final flare please make use of spoiler tags for all ingame content in this chat, since you cannot add spoilers to an image after its been sent i deleted it

read below

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[woven crypt]

Okay, ||fireball is not working at all to clean Hornet's mines||

Any other ideas?

[final flare]

ok lets try again, how can i make this jump, i only got ||mothwing and mantis||

[neat karma]

you still need to spoiler tag ||mothwing and mantis, but the answer is you cannot do anything with that, at the very least not yet||

[final flare]

i was trying to find ||cornifer || at ||fog canyon but the other way was block by a black spiral||

[neat karma]

you cannot find him until way later, also ||cornifer does need tag aswell||

[stark barn]

which ||dreamer|| is thie first one i get to?

[neat karma]

if you wonder why, its loopholes

[misty lodge]

||Do you need to do p5 for the other 2 endings ? ||

[neat karma]

yes

[misty lodge]

[neat wigeon]

Hello. I just defeated ||Broken Vessel. But now i can go into dream and fight it again. Is this an endgame thing or should I fight it now? Please no spoilers if possible||

[neat karma]

try it once and see how you do, ||if you believe its beatable try again, if you believe it isnt then come back to it later||

[neat wigeon]

Thank you

[woven crypt]

Okay I know what's the concrete issue I'm having is

[livid anchor]

HOW TO BEAT ||NKG|| PLEASE SEND HELP

[woven crypt]

I can keep my eyes on both ||Hornet and the mines|| at the same time

[livid anchor]

THIS THING

IT SCARES ME

[neon cliff]

|| now that i have dream nail and cdash where should i go?||

[tame hound]

does anyone know ||how much power unbreakable strength actually gives||?

[neat karma]

||50% your current nail damage||

[neat karma]

go back to previous areas and explore those places that you werent able to access before

[woven crypt]

I think I might physically be incapable of doing this short of getting super lucky like I did last time

[neat karma]

have you tried going literally anywhere else

[woven crypt]

No

I kinda have to do it like this

[neat karma]

why

[woven crypt]

If you know how OCD works then it'd be great if you could tell me

[tender jackal]

||I am at soul warrior fight, are there good charms that I can get at that point in game ? Also can you get full mask at that point ? I plan to unlock stag station in city and travel to other areas||

[normal rain]

Use ||Nailmasters glory and learn to counterattack him. ||

[solemn valley]

anyone got tips for ||p3ab|| I keep dying to only ||hive knight||

I js did ||p3eb||

[woven crypt]

That sounds like horrible advice ngl

[normal rain]

Go to ||Hall of Gods and practice him. What’s your build?||

[normal rain]

I can just about No-hit the fight. So…

In fact, I have

[solemn valley]

I kinda suck with ||spells|| and really suck with ||narts|| so I js have ||strength, quick slash, mop, sprint master, and steady body||

[solemn valley]

I've alr beaten every boss in ||p3|| on ||radiant|| except for ||hornet two||

[stoic cedar]

||if u r doing p3ab idk why u would even be practicing with charms||

[solemn valley]

||binding just fuck me up||

[solemn valley]

true lol idk why grimmbly asked my build

[normal rain]

Oh, I didn’t realize what ab meant

Mb

[woven crypt]

Congrats for you, but that's probably an outlier and not something everyone can do

[solemn valley]

I can too, bosses like ||nkg|| just take a LOT of practice

[solemn valley]

but once you kill them you pretty much have to no-hit so it feels really good

[normal rain]

I’d show you, but I play on switch and don’t own a capture card. Basically the way it’s done is you just counter-react his attack with ||nail arts. Take his dive for example. He dives, you jump over the fire with charged art ready, and you Great slash the spot he stands up. The slash with give you enough airtime to dodge the fire and is a much safer option than trying to pogo him||

[woven crypt]

I'm just glad to beat the bosses at all

[woven crypt]

Yeah no, I'll say that's too mechanically intensive to give as general advice

[normal rain]

It’s really not? Like, it’s holding a button, jumping, and releasing it at the right time? And if you’re fighting ||NKG|| then you should be mechanically knowledgeable anyway

[stoic cedar]

||yea i honestly would recommend narts for nkg, it’s a very consistent method since u r guaranteed to be able to charge up a nart within the down time before the next attack, and it deals pretty high damage as well. And when u weave narts with spells on nkg he really can die quite quickly||

[woven crypt]

I disagree

[normal rain]

There’s like one or two attacks it’s not viable for, and even then just stall those out and wait for the next cycle

[woven crypt]

||But I'm struggling with Hornet 2 so who knows||

[normal rain]

@livid anchor Try doing things like this. I can give more in depth explanations for each attack if you need it

[stoic cedar]

||like what, spikes? There’s an opening for nart on like every single attack. U don’t even need nailmasters glory||

[stark barn]

can i come back to do the ||lost kin ||fight anytime i want

[jade sedge]

Yeah

[pine cypress]

what is this room

[woven crypt]

I am easily on my 50th attempt, goddamn

[jade sedge]

||Just secret and lore||

[woven crypt]

It didn't take me this long on my first playthrough

[normal rain]

||Right but with NMG it’s much more consistent. I was referring to Uppercut, but you’re right, it isn’t impossible to do, just risky||

[pine cypress]

About what

[normal rain]

Lore

[pine cypress]

About what

[jade sedge]

||In uppercut you can dash away and great slash||

[pine cypress]

;00

[normal rain]

||THK’s crib where The White Lady mothered them||

[pine cypress]

|| wait so the white lady is the mother of all hollow knights? ||

[normal rain]

Yeah

Can’t get too into or people will get mad for not using the right channel

Which fair

[pine cypress]

Can u go to lore pls

[normal rain]

👍

[bright sorrel]

nuhuh

[jade sedge]

Just know that youll get spoiled there

[pine cypress]

I barely understand shit about the lore I don't know anything at all

[jade sedge]

But its related to gameplay stuff you might not have found yet, its heavily tied to the main things

[woven crypt]

Okay, is there any way to cheese ||Hornet 2||?

[wheat kite]

is there a way to cheese ||watcher knights||

[bright sorrel]

yes 🗿

[wheat kite]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-breakdance-gif-4991443249772973911

[worn sandal]

best charm build for p4?

I really like shape of unn + quick focus but anything that'll help me beat pv is neat

[woven crypt]

And that is?

[molten glen]

where is the bench? ||shouldnt it be next to cornifer in the city of tears?||

[wheat kite]

you buy it

[molten glen]

oh my god im broke

[woven crypt]

I can't with the ||mines||

There must be an easier way to get rid of them

[worn sandal]

oh your a new hk player right

[woven crypt]

This is my second playthrough

It's just that this is way way way harder for some reason this time

[tender jackal]

||is it possible to have a full mask if i am at soul warrior fight ?||

[tender jackal]

||you gotta buy it d||

[tender jackal]

||i bought 150 one before , but thats it||

[worn sandal]

have u tried the || pantheons ||

[heavy wolf]

I currently dont know where to progress im in ||kingdoms edge|| and i keep dying to the ||primal asphids I already have dash slash and dream nail|| im just lost is thier anything important i have to do thier

[solemn valley]

can I please have some tips for ||hive knight in p3ab|| I literal haven't gotten past him once in like 10 tries

[woven crypt]

What? No?

I'm not insane

I'm not touching the ||pantheons|| with a ten meter pole

[worn sandal]

ah that explains it

[normal rain]

I can give you a chainsaw, but you might have to switch your play style just a little bit

[worn sandal]

ok whats the build

[woven crypt]

What does it explain?

[solemn valley]

spoilers

[worn sandal]

you said whats p4

[solemn valley]

spoilers

[worn sandal]

||idk how p4 is spoilers but alr||

[woven crypt]

||That's now what I was asking, the other person said there was a way to cheese Hornet 2||

[solemn valley]

I've been told by mods that anything about the game has to be put under a spoiler tag

[worn sandal]

oh myf

[empty bane]

||i think its pretty much about patience, i like to pogo him on the tp attack and the dash attack to get 2 hits, also use spells when you get the chance and this is a personal preferende but i dodge the spikes with ddark to get damage||

[empty bane]

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[woven crypt]

?

[normal rain]

You need to go to ||ancient basin||

[solemn valley]

thx

[empty bane]

Hope it helps you

[solemn valley]

now to struggle with the rest of the ||p3|| bosses

[empty bane]

GL with patience you can do it

[solemn valley]

nvm ||elder hu|| is next I can easily heal up with him

is ||elder hu|| like ||no eyes|| in the fact that ||they have a chance to tp when hit?||

[wheat kite]

|| i am struggling with the watcher knights what do i do||

[woven crypt]

This might actually be impossible

[solemn valley]

first playthrough or trying to speedrun?

[normal rain]

||To start off, it’s mostly a blade build. You’ll want Steady Body (hear me out), Strength, and Quick slash. Those three make it so your nail dps goes through the roof, and it’s actually the highest damage build in the game. For the last slots I recommend shaman and Nailmasters glory. Glory can be swapped out, but it helps with certain bosses||

[wheat kite]

FP

[solemn valley]

js practice

[empty bane]

||im not very sure, i think yes but just because he has done it to me||

[solemn valley]

maybe get like a ||nail upgrade|| or some more ||charm notches|| but other than that

[wheat kite]

ok

[solemn valley]

||nuclear pancakes||

why does using ||dash slash|| sometimes just be ||great slash|| instead

[empty bane]

||spells, specially ddive is pretty useful against them, also if you want to heal you can try to made them do the 2 hit combo and the get away and heal fast but just 1 mask, apart from that you can get better things and then return||

[wheat kite]

I got the ||dark fireball and ddescent||

[empty bane]

Its confussing to use sometimes ||you have to release while dashing, if you do it almost in the end or just in the end it will be great slash||

[final pond]

||So, I found what looked like a boss fight with a large cocoon grub thing in the royal waterways. I skipped it and went to dung defender, then got the acid ability. Now I’m in the ancient basin and found the bossfight here. Am I meant to go back to the waterways for the cocoon thing or fight what’s here?||

[wheat kite]

me?

[empty bane]

Nope

[empty bane]

With those ones you can get good damage

[wheat kite]

okay

but i just keep taking damage from jumping when they jump

[solemn valley]

don't jump when they jump

when they bounce dash under them

[wheat kite]

are there indicators?

[solemn valley]

anyway ima go to sleep

gn

[empty bane]

||for that its reflexes, but you can make them jump less if you stay close to them that way they will do mostly the 2 hit combo||

[misty lodge]

||ancient basin ||

[wheat kite]

do i have to move back when they 2 hit

[solemn valley]

||for nail swings they bring their nail back a little, but their bouncing and rolling attacks have the same indicator but they're pretty slow so if you keep a good distance you should be able to differentiate the two pretty easily||

[wheat kite]

because i keep getting hit when they 2 hit combo

[empty bane]

||try to see when they are gonna do the 2 hit combo and then pogo them or just get behind them and attack, but if you pogo for the end of the attack you have to be behind them close enough so they dont roll||

[wheat kite]

ok

[empty bane]

Keep practicing and if you find it too hard ||upgrade things and come back later||

[wheat kite]

ok

[celest pewter]

why does the game play the parry sound but not parry sometimes? the clink? does it mean something else?

[woven crypt]

So is there a way to cheese ||Hornet's mines|| or not?

[empty bane]

||spells are the best way to get rid of them||

[woven crypt]

But they lock you in place and you have to aim them

[empty bane]

||you have to use them in the right timing, if the mine is far just fireball it, if its near ddive it, there is no easier way to destroy them if you dont want to use spells just nail them as fast as you can||

[celest pewter]

||is there a way to make nailsage sly's whirlwind not occasionally force you to the top of the screen? or are you just required to shadow dodge or face unavoidable damage there||

[empty bane]

||you can pogo on him while he is doing that but i think thats all||

[celest pewter]

||yeah that's what I mean, he can keep going upwards and force you to the ceiling while pogoing||

[tough gorge]

||can someone show me their full charm inventory if they have all of them? i'm missing 3 and don't know which||

[empty bane]

||i have never reached the ceiling when fought him so idk sry||

[stoic cedar]

Or the easier way is that you show us ur charm inventory instead so that we can see which ones u r missing.

[tough gorge]

its fine i figured it out lol, ||just missing deep focus and glowing womb||

[stoic cedar]

U said u were missing three ?

[delicate token]

Should I complete ||the mr mushroom quest|| before ||fighting the hollow knight||?

[stoic cedar]

Sure, go ahead

[delicate token]

||i want to get as many endings as i can in one save||

[tough gorge]

||i am, but i forgot i just need to rebuy my fragile heart to turn it unbreakable||

[empty bane]

||you can get them all in one save dw||

[delicate token]

||i alr got void heart so can't do the first one unfortunately||

||but i'll be replaying for achivements anyways so it doesn't matter||

[misty lodge]

you can get all the other ones

[delicate token]

yess

[woven crypt]

I can't do it

[celest pewter]

this is what I mean

[formal mason]

is there a ||deflect or parry in the game? like the one in sekiro? if so on average how long till i get it? right now i just arrived at queens station, finished up crossroads and greenpath and havent started with the fog area yet||

[normal rain]

Also ||DDive|| exists

[normal rain]

It’s almost frame perfect. Really hard to master

[stoic cedar]

||u generally don’t want to stay above sly for prolonged periods of time during his cyclone since he tries to go towards where u r , and if u r going up then he will just keep going up as well. Just a few pogos and then get out of the way before it gets too high||

[sharp hemlock]

||hitting an enemy’s nail attack with your nail attack parries it||

[formal mason]

wait so ||i dont need to unlock parry, i already have it?||

[uneven rock]

But its really hard to consistently use

[thick wing]

yeah pretty much

[formal mason]

worse than sekiro huh

[sharp hemlock]

Yes but it’s rlly hard

[thick wing]

its just, your nail

[celest pewter]

||he stays low 90% of the time, this has only happend 2 or 3 times during my practice here... but yeah I guess I should just dodge away||

[thick wing]

the white shape that comes with you press attack? thats what you use to parry

[formal mason]

honestly that would atleast allow me to stop running back and forth in a fight or atleast let me not get hit when i am pinned against a wall

[formal mason]

i gotta try this stuff

[normal rain]

Yes but I’m just gonna say don’t go for it. If you get it off then that’s great, but you shouldn’t be trying to use that as viable strategy to dodge attacks

[formal mason]

can you parry anything in the game

[sharp hemlock]

well yeah, usually you wanna get out of there tho

[formal mason]

damn alright

[thick wing]

not everything, no

[formal mason]

unfortunate

[formal mason]

well it is the last option

[thick wing]

but basically any attack that has a white outline can be parried

[formal mason]

hmm alright imma attempt it later ig

[stoic cedar]

||that is probably becuz u were pogoing on sly himself rather than his nail, which would push him down. But still it is an inconsistent method since u could miss ur pogo and pogo on the nail instead, or mistime ur pogo entirely and get hit||

[formal mason]

||i should prolly finish exploring queens station first, and i also need to find out how to stick to walls later||

[sharp hemlock]

Mhm

[normal rain]

Some bosses and enemies are melee based and will use things like their body to attack you. Those are the attacks it won’t work on. Also if their blade is longer than your and would hit if you didn’t parry then it’ll still connect on you

[thick wing]

||Most attacks that have a white line trailing them can be parried.||

(from the hk wiki)

[thick wing]

dont forget to add spoiler tags!

[formal mason]

mb

[formal mason]

hmm ig its gonna take a long time

[thick wing]

hey its alright! thanks

[normal rain]

This is gonna sound corny but is the answer to your desc love?

[stoic cedar]

It’s the letter m

Literally his username

[normal rain]

Oh lol

-# I’m gonna say it now I’m buns a riddles

[thick wing]

[elfin barn]

anyone got tips for ||pv||?

[celest pewter]

how does the ||shadow bomb spell|| iframes work? the spell itself seems ultra delayed, can get hit during it, but at some point maybe at the bottom you're invuln?

[normal rain]

I probably should have asked this a long time ago

I despise that boss 💔

[elfin barn]

you are invincible when the shockwaves start

[thick wing]

||shadow bomb?||

||you mean ddark?||

[elfin barn]

I love it lmao I just have a little hard time with the timing for my ||sdash||

bosses like this that are basically a dance are magnificent

[normal rain]

I like most every other boss in the game, I just dislike how unpredictable ||PV|| is

[woven crypt]

I don't know, anyone think of something better than this combination for right now?

[normal rain]

Telegraphs are too small imo

[thick wing]

||what is this for, hornet 2?||

[woven crypt]

Yes

[elfin barn]

for ||hornet v2||?

[normal rain]

||Shaman Stone||

[woven crypt]

I don't really like using spells

[elfin barn]

I got a tip for you its called bench reset,when you ae at one hp quit the game and reload your save

[thick wing]

what you have is solid for a nail build

[woven crypt]

They're kind of unwieldy and I need the heals

[thick wing]

dont really see how else to improve it

[elfin barn]

like that you can use ||fragile strength||

[normal rain]

To get further you’re gonna want to learn them at some point

[thick wing]

||well ig strength but it breaks if you die so||

[elfin barn]

bench reset

[woven crypt]

I beat the game once already without them

I have no idea why I'm struggling so much this time with this one

[raven root]

Since Silksong is coming out in a few days, I made a medley of Hollow Knight songs. However I don't see a music channel or a channel to ask questions except for here, so where would I put the medley? Sorry if this is wrong place as well.

[thick wing]

you'll have to opt in to the art channels

[elfin barn]

hk general or hk discussion Ig

[thick wing]

do you see the channels and roles thing at the top like so?

[raven root]

Thanks a ton

[normal rain]

You underestimate the power of I-frames (||Ddark||)

[raven root]

I do

[thick wing]

go into that and click on the art channels

[raven root]

Thanks

[thick wing]

bottom 2

yeah!

[normal rain]

In fact ||Ddark is amazing for Hornet 2||

[woven crypt]

That's the ||spell|| I used the least

Due to how finnicky it is to use

[thick wing]

||spell needs to be tagged fyi||

[celest pewter]

jesus christ ||zote's|| stagger animation where he bounces into the air hits you with contact damage, come onnnn

[elfin barn]

ok found a new health moment for ||pv||

[heavy wolf]

Okay so i was told i needed to go to ||ancient basin|| but i am search through ||kingdom's edge|| and i cant find it like im search through all of it and i cant find it

[split fog]

Hey y'all I was beating the vengefly king but for some reason he kept screaming but didn't do the dash attack

[thick wing]

what are you looking for

[split fog]

Is that normal

Like is the vengefly ai always that bad

[heavy wolf]

||Hornet fight||

[thick wing]

||its in kingdoms edge, not ancient basin||

[tender jackal]

||can i know which grubs i collected based on their location near grub father ?||

[heavy wolf]

Okay thanks ill look

[split fog]

Y'all ?

[thick wing]

||are you in greenpath rn or||

[split fog]

Cause I want to see if any of my skin mods caused problems

[split fog]

Me yes

[thick wing]

it shouldn't, not that im aware of

[split fog]

Is it first time no

I finished the game on console and now I got it on pc but yeah

[thick wing]

wdym by not doing the dash attack

[split fog]

And I got some skin mods iam trying to see if thoes caused problems

[thick wing]

like its just, stuck there?

[elfin barn]

I WON

[thick wing]

gg

[woven crypt]

I don't want to know how many attampts I'm approaching at

Probably nearing 70 or something

[elfin barn]

no number of attempt is too many dw

[celest pewter]

ugh figured out something I was doing wrong, holding jump blocks the input for ||ddark|| 🙄

[split fog]

No it goes left and right but you know vengefly king dose a attack where he dashes from the right to left or left to right he didn't do that he was still flying moving slowly and summoning normal vengflys but that attack didn't come out no matter what

[thick wing]

the left and right thing is normal wdym

[split fog]

No like it dose not do this

[elfin barn]

at ||hornet v2?||

[woven crypt]

Yes

[thick wing]

that sounds normal to me ngl

[elfin barn]

yk if you want to train there is ||godhome||

[thick wing]

but hey i could always be wrong who knows

[split fog]

When he dose this

[woven crypt]

Why would I want to train? What would the point in that be versus just doing the fight?

[split fog]

||Pantheons ?||

[thick wing]

(dont forget spoiler tags pls)

?tag spoilers

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[split fog]

Dude ?

[thick wing]

what, its a channel rule

[split fog]

No not that

[split fog]

This move

[thick wing]

the scream? yeah thats normal

[split fog]

He didn't do this move

[grave storm]

you can’t train without beating it first

[thick wing]

oh strange

uh, did you wait long enough? silly question ik

[split fog]

No not that you see when you goes to edge of each side then doe a half circle motion from right to left

[woven crypt]

Yes?

What about them?

[thick wing]

oh, idk about that then tbh

[split fog]

Are you doing pantheon

[woven crypt]

No?

[split fog]

Yeah maby cause I was following it

[woven crypt]

This is the regular fight

[split fog]

You stuck on normal Hornet v2

[woven crypt]

Yes

[split fog]

Hah weird

Maby change your game plan or charms

[celest pewter]

this game really needs input queueing for things like, I hit jump a frame too early after an ability and it just ignores it while I'm holding the key down

[grave storm]

yeah this is a learning curve

[split fog]

Some charms and cause problem rather then help

[woven crypt]

Issue is I ALREADY BEAT THIS FIGHT

[grave storm]

i think you’re a lil too late for that

[celest pewter]

so many situations where I am holding jump, or holding heal, but oops I hadn't landed yet so it's just cancelled. If I'm holding heal, obviously it should heal no matter what

[woven crypt]

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SO HARD NOW

[split fog]

Oh lol

[thick wing]

did you have better equipment first time around

[grave storm]

yeah prolly why

[woven crypt]

Think so

I came late game last time

[grave storm]

try to get as much of an advantage as you can

[thick wing]

yeah thats why

[split fog]

I was trying not to be mean but if it's not your first try then either equipment issues or skill issue

[grave storm]

yeah but if they already beat it then they can beat it again

[thick wing]

depending on the boss, having subpar equipment can make it so much harder than you're used to

[woven crypt]

You failed at not being mean fyi

[celest pewter]

oh, no. we said the same thing 8 years ago

[grave storm]

well they worked on silksong for 8 years straight

no time for hk

idk i’ve never noticed it

[celest pewter]

lmao

[split fog]

No I know I was being mean now lmao

Somtimes you have to tell people to get gud

[woven crypt]

In my opinion that's worse than not saying anything

[grave storm]

there’s gonna be a lot of git gud with ss now

[split fog]

As much it's annoying

Worked for me

[woven crypt]

It really adds nothing to the conversation

Like I know I suck, there's literally nothing I can do about it

[grave storm]

truth hurts if

ig

[celest pewter]

this discord has its share of people who are too comfortable in their toxcitiy

[woven crypt]

Thanks for reminding me of the fact, I guess

[grave storm]

i’m kidding

what’s ur charm build

[woven crypt]

No you're not

I have quicknail and mark of pride on

[grave storm]

well if that’s what you think

[celest pewter]

the cry of rude people being called on things

[grave storm]

well you can get up to 9 notches before ||hornet v2|| so maybe do that

[thick wing]

dont forget tags yall

[grave storm]

mb

[woven crypt]

Screw it, I'll continue tomorrow

I'm tilting

[woven crypt]

That's just the internet and the gaming community specifically

[celest pewter]

how do you deal with ||zote|| just walking into you constantly? is everyone bringing ||max length nail?|| or just using spells?

[grave storm]

both

i use|| max length nail ||mostly tho

[woven crypt]

I'd assume ||dash charms|| and ||sharp shadow|| are super helpful in that fight

[celest pewter]

the former not so much, the latter yeah

i'd say the majority of my incoming damage ni this game is contact damage, it's super frustrating

compared to souls like games

[grave storm]

indeed

soulsborne has a way easier strategy to get max iframes

[celest pewter]

like literally ||zote|| backed up into me for damage, and then i staggered him but his stagger animation touched me and knocked me into an explosion

[grave storm]

😭

one thing i hope ss has is parrying

[celest pewter]

or he'll stand up after his feint and that hurts me

[grave storm]

like hk has it but not so much in detail

[grave storm]

are you trying to beat ||zote|| for ||p5||? or ||the trophy||

[celest pewter]

it's not about iframes at all, it's just about... avoiding attacks via mechanisms, and it not being about oops I expertly dodged the attack but ended up inside him, and because i'm the weakest thing in the game world, i am dead now

[clear pulsar]

Is there a specific ending I should shoot for before I play silksong?

[grave storm]

there isn’t a canon one so

[celest pewter]

i haven't found a platformer where contact damage doesn't feel cheesy and leaned on lazily

[woven crypt]

None are specified to be canon

[clear pulsar]

is there a "good" ending or something?

[celest pewter]

just practicing ascended version for one of the pantheons yeah

i killed him a bunch in the ||dream|| earlier

[split fog]

Tbh the best thing you can do is literally die until you learn

Ngl it took 200 times to beat ||nkg||

[grave storm]

idk i quit for a year and when i got back to try ||p5|| again i got demolished by ||zote|| so i would literally just practice lmao

[split fog]

So trust me it's based on my experience

[grave storm]

alright this is crazy

[split fog]

Yeah I was ass

[grave storm]

😭

[celest pewter]

I hate practicing, it's much more enjoyable to actually play a fight than to have given up and said "ok, this is too hard, I guess I'll go memorize every move"

[split fog]

I never played any hard game before

Nkg was sooo hard

[celest pewter]

and when the bosses have so much cheesy bs like this there isn't much choice

[split fog]

After beating

I was able to beat ds3 bb and ds1

[grave storm]

||zote|| is literally just to make up for the easy duo fights

[split fog]

Literally made me batter at boss pattern reading

[celest pewter]

games should be tuned so you don't have to practice against something that's otherwise impossible, to have precognition of its moveset and counters lol. but I understand that is a challenge some peopel want

[grave storm]

like fatass and skinny in er were the worst bosses in the game for me

[grave storm]

that’s what makes it a souls like tho

[celest pewter]

this isn't a souls like

[grave storm]

true

but it’s close enough

[celest pewter]

and, the good bosses in souls games are readable and beatable on the first try by attentive players

the cheesy ones you are like yeah ok and roll your eyes for next time

[split fog]

Tbh it was fun

[celest pewter]

everything has cues

[split fog]

I realized

I love hard games

[grave storm]

yeah but there’s always one boss that’s not fun

[split fog]

I beat binding of Isaac

Risk of rain

[clear pulsar]

are there any perks to getting ||essence|| for the ||dream nail||?

[split fog]

And enter the gungeon

[grave storm]

yes

[celest pewter]

right, those are the ones taht are not well designe dlol

[split fog]

This game pretty much got me addicted to hard games

[clear pulsar]

I do not wanna fight ||Soul Master|| again 😭

[split fog]

And made me realize how much I like gaming

That why it's in my top 3

[grave storm]

there’s worse to come don’t worry

[clear pulsar]

like what?

[grave storm]

how much ||essence|| do you have?

[clear pulsar]

is it required for certain endings?

[clear pulsar]

around ||700||

[grave storm]

let’s just say you’ll need more for a certain ending

you’ll know when but for now just keep getting more

[clear pulsar]

How much more?!

okay

[grave storm]

||1100||

[clear pulsar]

😭

[grave storm]

and the max is ||2400 for an achievement and some lore and an item||

[clear pulsar]

I am not doing that

[grave storm]

😭

[clear pulsar]

I js wanna finish the game before silksong drops

[grave storm]

you got time

[grave storm]

if you need help look up a location of all the ||dream nail bosses|| and ||trees||

[rugged veldt]

Technically, there is no *maximum*. There's just a threshold above which you get no rewards

[grave storm]

true

[rugged veldt]

Or if you don't want to spoil yourself, we can direct you to them

[grave storm]

yes

just go to where you haven’t been tbh that’s how i found them

[clear pulsar]

gotcha

[grave storm]

or where you fight the ||enhanced version of a boss go to where they died||

[clear pulsar]

I just want to get the "good" ending if there is one

[grave storm]

uh

depends

personal preference

[clear pulsar]

I fought the ||failed champion|| and struggled a ton on that 😭

I think I may need to max out my nail or get more masks ||before I attempt more||

[grave storm]

the ending considered the best is the hardest ofc so you’d have to get ||1800 essence|| and something else

and man that fight is really really hard so if you’re up for it

[clear pulsar]

does it require I have to do the ||Path of pain|| or whatever people are saying is basically impossible?

[misty lodge]

No

[grave storm]

yes?

[misty lodge]

|| you don't need to do path of pain for it ||

[grave storm]

yes you do you have to ||collect it from the pale kings body at the end of it||

[misty lodge]

|| that is white palace path of pain is a secret area in white palace ||

[grave storm]

oh shoot ur right

i really gotta play again lmao

well it’s still decently hard

[misty lodge]

true

[clear pulsar]

is ||white palace godmaster content or no?||

[grave storm]

no

[misty lodge]

No

Base game

[clear pulsar]

||hell is the ending your talking about even linked to godmaster??||

[misty lodge]

No

[clear pulsar]

okay good

that seems out of my skill level

[misty lodge]

you should get the first ending before || white palace ||

[grave storm]

yes

you can get all in one play through

[clear pulsar]

so use the ||dream nail on all of the dreamers first?||

[misty lodge]

yes

[grave storm]

you have to do that no matter what

[clear pulsar]

gotcha

[misty lodge]

|| then go to the black egg temple in dirtmouth whenever you are ready ||

||Crossroads * ||

[clear pulsar]

||is that where the final boss is?||

[grave storm]

want spoilers?

[clear pulsar]

is there something I should get before doing that?

[grave storm]

well depends what ending you want

[misty lodge]

||you don't need to for first ending ||

[grave storm]

yeah

[clear pulsar]

gotcha

I'll just do that then

[misty lodge]

|| if you don't do first ending first you will get locked out of it ||

[clear pulsar]

thanks :D

[grave storm]

good luck

[covert spruce]

what do I do with the ||teacher|| inside the tank?

[acoustic sigil]

Do the particles remind you of anything

[covert spruce]

wdym?

[acoustic sigil]

Nvm there are none

||Use dream nail||

[celest pewter]

contact damage is such cancerrrrrrrrrrr dodging not quite far enough past the ||mantis traitor||

[frail sundial]

can someone explain how to get || lifeblood in the p5 ||

yes i know that || i need to beat p1/2/3/4 with bindings || but how many

[misty lodge]

|| dreamnail||

[covert spruce]

thanks, I had to ||kill (maybe)|| her.

[acoustic sigil]

||8 for 3, 12 for 4, 16 for 5||

[frail sundial]

wdym 8?

|| 8 different bindings? ||

[acoustic sigil]

Yes

[frail sundial]

oh alright

[misty lodge]

Do 4 at once

[kindred whale]

||path of pain is completely optional, honestly i dont even know how people discovered it||

[frail sundial]

so i can do like || p1 with 3 bindings, p2 with 2, p3 with 2 and p4 with 1? ||

[misty lodge]

yes

[frail sundial]

no thanks 😭

[acoustic sigil]

Yes and you dont have to do the 3 at the same time

[frail sundial]

ohhh thats a blessing

thanks

[kindred whale]

||dont push the bindings too hard, nothing sucks more than having to redo a pantheon and swap out your bindings||

[frail sundial]

also is it correct that the || abs rad can only get 9 nail swings at the last phase ||?

[kindred whale]

i dont think so

[frail sundial]

not with || strenght charm? ||

[kindred whale]

as someone whos died there too many times...

[acoustic sigil]

Delete the image as it isn't spoiler tagged

[tacit grail]

my apologies

[frail sundial]

i died there yesterday evening, got 8 hits on him
i got to the last phase with 7 masks

|| IN PANTHEON 5 AS WELL 😭 || stress i guess

[kindred whale]

i dont know exactly but ||i feel like ive definitely hit absrad more than 9 times last phase

[acoustic sigil]

Yes the wiki agrees its 9

[frail sundial]

alright thanks

i think i would beat || p5|| if i didnt have stress and stuff at || abs rad ||

[kindred whale]

||ive died last phase about 8-9 times.....||

[frail sundial]

painful

[kindred whale]

yes

[frail sundial]

did you beat it?

like || p5? ||

[kindred whale]

no i havent touched it since late may

got too busy with uni and work

[frail sundial]

i started the game august 1th and i already have 105 hours + 112 on it

and a || 100% steel soul in 10 hours ||

[kindred whale]

||p5 is the last achievement for me||

i would try get it before ss but i have a major assignment due on the launch day

[frail sundial]

so you got 63?

[frail sundial]

oh that sucks

[kindred whale]

62/63 achievements

[frail sundial]

delay the silksong for urself

[frail sundial]

you got it bro

i am going to try tonight when i get back from school again n

[kindred whale]

fair

[frail sundial]

i also need to figure out what all achievements are

[kindred whale]

i might try ||p5|| again if i can get this assignment done tonight (wishful thinking)

[frail sundial]

you got this

[kindred whale]

theyre listed on steam if youre on computer

[frail sundial]

yeah, but some are hidden

[kindred whale]

go to global achievements, lets you reveal the hidden ones

[scenic spire]

Please someone help me beat ||Hornet 2 🙏||
I've got these ||charms and notches, 6 masks and she keeps whopping my ass||

[frail sundial]

oh alright thanks

[kindred whale]

have you visited ||salubra's shop|| yet?

[frail sundial]

i would recommend
|| quick slash, mark of pride, steady body and grubsong/soul catcher ||

[frail sundial]

they did, || steady body ||

[scenic spire]

Yep

[kindred whale]

||steady body comes from sly doesnt it?||

[frail sundial]

nope

[scenic spire]

I can't equip ||grubsong/soul catcher|| with the other 3

[kindred whale]

||i highly recommend shamans stone for good spell damage, otherwise quickslash is really good too, try buy more notches from her||

[frail sundial]

i meant that you could either equip || steady body + grubsong, or just soul catcher ||

|| mark of pride and quickslash are a 100% equip ||

[scenic spire]

After ||mark of pride and quickslash|| I've only got 1 notch left, so ||steady body or grubsong?||

[frail sundial]

oh shit my bad, || steady body for sure ||

if you are struggling with the fight, || steady body|| is a life saver

[scenic spire]

Alright, I'll give it a couple shots

[frail sundial]

Good luck!!!

[scenic spire]

Holy crap, first try

[grave storm]

ayy

that’s how good ||quickslash the goat is||

[fresh gulch]

||Failed Champion|| is only in the ||Pantheon||, right? i haven't gotten the achievement for it despite ||Beating it||

[grave storm]

expand

what achievement

[fresh gulch]

the achievement you get for doing what i described...

[grave storm]

it was confusing

[fresh gulch]

idk what else to say, i didn't get the achievement even though i did waht i thought was required to get it

[grave storm]

just say the achievement 😭

and igu

[grave storm]

then no

you have to ||find him||

he’s not only in the ||pantheon||

[fresh gulch]

where is he?

[grave storm]

||above where you killed him before||

[fresh gulch]

aight

ty

[grave storm]

||there’s gonna be a wall you can break on the right side, and you dream nail his body||

np

[fresh gulch]

ngl, i thought that would've counted to 112%, guess not

[red cairn]

Doesn't count because there's other ways to do what it's used for

[zenith needle]

||how do I get to city storeroom? there’s a gate keeping me from reaching the wide open section with all the flying sentries and I can’t get to cornifer||

I need to come in from the top I think but I forgot how

[fresh gulch]

is it possible to get the other endings if i got the ||sealed siblings ending||?i wanna get the others for completionist sake

[stoic cedar]

||u will need to make a massive detour down, right, up, then to the left in order to reach the city storerooms for the first time||

[acoustic sigil]

||You cant get the first ending anymore, the others are still open to get||

[stoic cedar]

||specifically down to the elevator, right across rafters, up towards toll bench, then left across the huge corridor||

[fresh gulch]

what was the requirement for the ||regular radiance|| ending? i know the ||2 pantheon endings depend on if you gave a flower to the godseeker so that will easy to do, not counting the 5th pantheon||

i think i'll just ||get a save for the base ending|| lol

[acoustic sigil]

||Same as sealed siblings but you have to do something when hornet jumps in||

[cloud karma]

is this hard?

[livid shoal]

Not at all

[acoustic sigil]

Seeing what's on the image is hard

[fresh gulch]

laughable even

[fresh gulch]

what tho?

[acoustic sigil]

I think you will figure it out yourself if you take a look instead of starting to smack

[fresh gulch]

oh i'm a fkn idiot, it's so obvious

[misty lodge]

|| what charms should i use for pantheons||

[stoic cedar]

do u have all charms

[zenith needle]

I found it, thx

[misty lodge]

yes

[stoic cedar]

how many ||notches||

[misty lodge]

max

[fresh gulch]

||shaman stone, spell twister, unbreakable strength and quick slash is usually the best setup||

[kindred whale]

thats what i run

[celest pewter]

how would I go about figuring out what I'm missing? 99% completion (before I started ||pantheon||)

oh I guess it must be a charm, I don't have the ||special charm for having 45 charms||, does that count?

[stoic cedar]

||well theres the obvious stuff like charms, masks, soul vessels, and abilities. then theres the more non obvious stuff like bosses and other miscellaneous things throughout the map||

[stoic cedar]

||first of all its not possible to have 45 charms at the same time. and secondly if im thinking correctly of what u r referring to then no that isnt required. but each charm constitutes 1% so u should be going for charms anyways||

[frail sundial]

no

easiest thing in the entire game

[celest pewter]

||oops, 40 I meant, for salubra's blessing, but yeah I see that doesn;t count||