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||you can go to their corpses and inspect them||

[rain ridge]

||does dream shield block markoths nails||

[shut sparrow]

no

it's not like it would help if it did

||dream shield|| is pretty bad in general

[thick wing]

|| I checked it but nothing happened ||

[shut sparrow]

then you probably already have them in your ||journal||

[neat nymph]

spoiler

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[thick wing]

How ?

[neat nymph]

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||so firstly, especially if ur saying ur doing it for the pale ore, you might be doing it pretty early on. You can get pale ore elsewhere and you don't need it that much. Just come back to it later with more upgrades and experience if it's too difficult.
If you do wanna do it now my advice is using a lot of spells and not using charms than only affect your normal nail attack. Make sure to always heal up if you have the time especially if like 1 easy enemy is remaining. If you want a charm build you can send an image of the ones you have||

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you need to tap on it

[topaz nacelle]

😭

[wide stream]

Done

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Theres an add spoiler button gng

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Sorry I only just joined

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[shut sparrow]

it's alright

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||I would probably use catcher, twister, grubsong and longnail. You'll need to remember to use a lot of spells though. You are missing some pretty good ones I'd generally recommend having at this point so I'd probably explore some more before doing this. Specifically where you bought steady body and lifeblood heart in crossroads there are more good charms||

[wide stream]

Okay

||So justt spam vengeful spirit desolate dive and heal when needed?||

[coarse nest]

||I'm starting pantheons, is there any soul pool like the hot springs nearby?||

[wide stream]

@shut sparrow ?

[shut sparrow]

||well, not mindlessly "spam" of course but you should use them a lot||

[stoic cedar]

||there are hot springs in pantheons but if u r asking about carrying soul into the start of a pantheon, that is sadly not possible since all ur soul is cleared when u enter a pantheon||

[coarse nest]

Ah okay nvm then

[neat nymph]

idk what to do in ||white palace|| in one place

[coarse nest]

Put a pic of the area with spoiler tag ig, once the ppl who know how to do that come online they can help

[neat nymph]

there are ||spikes||

[coarse nest]

I think you ||pogo the spikes and get to the top||

Cuz ||pogo will refresh double jump||

[neat nymph]

oh okay butt idk how

[coarse nest]

||downslash while next to the spikes||

[neat nymph]

um yes i know how to pogo but idk how to pogo this one

[coarse nest]

I'm just going off what I've seen lol, I can't do it either

[neat nymph]

lol

I DID IT!!

and i fell

[coarse nest]

Lmao nice

[neat nymph]

i have problem in every room bruh

[wild adder]

||anyone got tips for nailsage sly||

[shut sparrow]

please use spoiler tags in this channel ||like this||

[wild adder]

oh

[shut sparrow]

||as general advice for the boss it's kind of a rhythm of attacking and dodging his attacks. You don't want to be too greedy so only attack 2 or at most 3 times (or use nailarts) after each of his attacks and then back off again to dodge his attacks. Using spells, especially ddark if you're in the air, but also shade soul for damage is great. Have you reached/do you struggle with second phase?||

or is there anything else in particular you struggle with?

[wild adder]

||i mean i made it to second phase once but i dont know how to deal with it||

[shut sparrow]

||at the start if you have soul step to the side and shriek once for damage. Then for the rest of the phase just charge a nailart and every time he approaches you move/dash away, turn around and great slash him. It will take 3-5||

[wild adder]

||okay thanks, im just wondering when to and when to not use spoiler tags, and also why theyre necessary||

[stoic cedar]

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[wild adder]

oh ok, that makes sense

[thick wing]

|| Hello, I am about to finish Hollow Knight at 112% and now I am at 111%. I need someone to give the charm to or take it from. Look at the picture I took from YouTube, but this person is not visible to me. ||

[cobalt cradle]

U need to ||banish the grimm troupe|| but if u didn't it's still fine

[urban forge]

||to get that guy, you have to banish the Grimm troupe and he will replace Grimm child with a different charm called carefree melody. Don't worry if you instead completed the ritual by defeating nkg as it is not necessary for 112%||

As for the final completion, could you send a screenshot of your inventory?

Could possibly be ||p4, colo3, ascending the seer ect||

[acoustic sigil]

You do have to do either of the 2

[urban forge]

Yes

Sorry I meant you didn't have to|| choose to bannish the troupe for 112%||

[calm verge]

my save file got softlocked
everytime i load in it just me out of bound while cant do anything

and i cant even press esc to use a mod like debugmod

[stoic cedar]

given that u mentioned u r using mods, this sounds like an issue that is most likely caused by mods, so #1057825333841240104 would be a better fit for this question. tho i suspect it is a benchwarp issue if u have that mod enabled

[calm verge]

that was the issue lol , apparintly i somehow got myself bound to a deployed bench outside the normal rooms

[urban forge]

||quickslash, shaman, strength+ any two notch/two one notch charms||

[willow nymph]

Tyyyy ^^<

[urban forge]

Good one ||notches are s body nmg, dream wielder and grubsong two notches the best is probably spell twister but sharp shadow and heart are also good||

I use ||spell twister|| in general but it's up to you

Depends on if you use ||narts ||

[stoic cedar]

hello, you need to spoiler your message as per channel rules

[primal ibex]

please spoiler tag that

[willow nymph]

Ill just delete it

[primal ibex]

ok sure but next time do ||this| |

[willow nymph]

Mhm

[coarse nest]

Goddamn ||norman soul warrior||
He's killed ||4 pantheon 1 runs for me||

[unkempt ridge]

how 😭 ||soul warrior|| is one of the easiest bosses

[regal trellis]

can someone help me, my files i change a long time
trying to recover my save but now i cant criate a new load on
steel soul

he just insta create

[unkempt ridge]

i dont know how sry

[regal trellis]

ok

ty

[urban forge]

In what way Di you change your files (I am in no way an expert on this but I'll try to help)

[stoic cedar]

hello, please spoiler ||steel soul|| as per channel rules

[regal trellis]

i lost my save full 112%

[urban forge]

You should still be able to create steel soul saves as long as you've beaten the game on a save

[coarse nest]

I've died to || gorb and soul warrior in this pantheon 1 run, I can do hornet easy, false knight hitless, dung defender easy||

[urban forge]

If you're struggling with consistency on certain bosses, it can be worth practicing them on|| ascended in hog||

[grim arch]

Isn't ||soul warrior|| a mini boss 😭

[coarse nest]

Yeah, doing that now

Just got hit once or twice and that messed up my rhythm ig

[coarse nest]

What's a ||boss vs mini boss||
Late game spoilers ||it's in hog so it's a boss I'd say||

[urban forge]

Not an official classification but stuff like ||gruzz mother and vengefly king||

[unkempt ridge]

yes

[umbral wasp]

||HE ATE THEM?||

[coarse nest]

Hmm fair it doesn't make much sense to put ||MMC and these in the same tier as say soul tyrant||

But idk, I've struggled more on ||marmu than markoth, hollow knight I did 2nd try but soul warrior took me 3rn, so I'm not even gonna try to classify things because it's gonna be an utterly bizzare ranking||

[urban forge]

No he is like a cocoon

The achievement is called ||metaphososis||

And the charm refers to the ||gruberflies|| they will become

[regal trellis]

@urban forge I FINALY HEAVE FIXED

my game doesnt count my first game

and i kill the hollow knight and done

[urban forge]

Nice

[sinful vortex]

Dude

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[regal trellis]

sorry

[rose rivet]

Hi! Looking for advanced tips for ||hornet 2||
I wanna up my consistency for this boss a bit.

[vagrant bough]

||can you pogo the spikes on the floor at the radiance fight?||

[rose rivet]

you can, but it's generally just much better to ||ddark|| them

[vagrant bough]

you can destroy them?

[rose rivet]

Yes

[vagrant bough]

huh

[sinful vortex]

||if you use descending dark you can break them||

[vagrant bough]

||are there consistent times to heal during radiance?||

[rose rivet]

||During her radial beams or radial swords. You can predict where the second cast will be||

||It's always in the same position relative to the first one||

[stuck heron]

||I'm on one mask, I'm fighting Grimm p5(the first one) and I haven't played for like 2 months. What am I if not cooked?||

[rose rivet]

Whatever you do, don't panic heal

[stuck heron]

||Also I killed the beast and God tamer almost killed me, I healed just in time ||

I died

Well, time for a 2 month break

[urban forge]

My favourite ending

[crimson void]

i know right

[urban forge]

Reasonably censored

Wouldn't want a new player to have it spoiled

[crimson void]

its peak

[jade sluice]

that's an ace

not a king

🤯

[crimson void]

what can i say im not a king im a ace

[vagrant bough]

could you explain this

[jade sluice]

the ace cards in deltarune aren't relevant 😔

[crimson void]

you take that back

[jade sluice]

am i wrong though

[crimson void]

no

[rose rivet]

||the lasers always rotate the same amount of degrees from the first cast. So if you stand right where the first set of them hit, the second one would never hit there.||

[urban forge]

This also applies for the third

I think

[vagrant bough]

||i suppose only on the second cast tho, since the 3rd goes back to the original? any other spots?||

[rose rivet]

It kinda does, but it's tight

[rose rivet]

||The third doesn't hit where the first hit, but it does hit pretty close to it. If you practice a little you'll find the perfect position where you won't be hit by either of the casts.||

[vagrant bough]

thank you for the info

[urban forge]

Also it's a great opportunity to ||shriek|| because you know you will be safe if you're positioned correctly

[rose rivet]

If we're speaking ||shireks||, those also let you stay mid-air for quite a while, so you can actually dodge her ||horizontal swords|| with them while also dealing a tonn of damage

[vagrant bough]

problem is

im having trouble doing ||shrieks and ddarks||

[rose rivet]

Do you use the quick cast button?

It's much easier this way

[vagrant bough]

i am aware but idk where to map it

[rose rivet]

Mine is on F

[vagrant bough]

same

i feel i js need practise

[rose rivet]

It's pretty easy to reach since you have a finger on C for your dash anyway, and you never need to cast and dash at the same time.

[vagrant bough]

i have dash on b5

[rose rivet]

on b what?

[vagrant bough]

button 5

on mouse

[rose rivet]

Oh... that does sound really confusing control-wise

I don't use my mouse at all in HK, why would you?

[vagrant bough]

||movement on awsd, heal on q, look up on space, attack on left click, dream nail or right click, dash on button 5 and cdash on button 4||

[rose rivet]

I mean, logically I'd be having my spells on right click

||dream nail instead of cdash||

and cdash can be put somewhere else because you don't really use it in fights (unless ||Uumu||)

[wooden otter]

||My mom is stuck on these guys, is there any basic tips to defeat them?||

[urban forge]

Keep distance on the headbang attack and attack the one spitting acid

They are optional so she could always come back later

[wooden otter]

thx!

[gloomy hamlet]

Spoilers

It was just ||Dreamnail, dash, and cdash|| but that works too

[hearty pecan]

guys in ||white defender in pantheon 5, do i get 2 masks or 1 mask dmg||

that was close

[jade sedge]

1

[hearty pecan]

YES

tysm

I MIGHT BEAT ||PANTHEON 5|| YAY

hey censor the image too

[thick wing]

||if i use breakable life in the god home and if i die will it break?||

[austere viper]

How I do that? Couldn't find a way to do that honestly

[hollow bramble]

No

[hearty pecan]

are you in pc

[austere viper]

Yep

[hearty pecan]

the eye

[austere viper]

||Is this a good charm build for pantheons? Or should I swap something?||

Okay, managed to do it

I think

Though had to send a new message for that, but doesn't really matter I think

[robust ridge]

nope

[thick wing]

Okay tyy

[robust ridge]

||fragile charms don't break in any dreams except for white palace and the radiance||

[austere viper]

||That means unbreakabling them is kinda useless||

[robust ridge]

||quick slash is the best charm for pantheons

remove soul catcher and either grubsong or nailmaster's glory for it||

[robust ridge]

yeah it actually is

i don't think most people do it after their first run

[austere viper]

||But the iframes from dive are pretty nice doe||

[robust ridge]

||you're going to get more soul with quickslash than soul catcher||

[austere viper]

Oh okie

[robust ridge]

||you're attacking 1.5x as fast (therefore gaining soul 1.5x as fast) vs 27% more soul gain||

[austere viper]

||Is that also true for PV? Cause I am currently kinda struggling with that boss, and it seems like it's best to only hit it once at a time anyways||

[robust ridge]

||you can safely hit it twice at a time because of the faster attack speed||

[austere viper]

Okie thanks

[grizzled ravine]

||meow||

[neat nymph]

i sad down on the ||throne in white palace, but i didnt take the screenshot... so i returned (doing the parkour) and i cant sit here again?!||

[wooden otter]

||i dont think you can after collecting charm piece||

[neat nymph]

🙁

[wooden otter]

Atleast youll have a reason to play this amazing game again!

[neat nymph]

i didnt completed it

im dying from ||the radiance|| but i for the first time survivet to dhe ||third phase, and i died||

[robust ridge]

||don't chase her around during the platforms phase, just stay in the middle and let her come to you||

||heal when she does the beam burst and during the phase change||

[muted arch]

So I was wondering what would be a good charm build for this boss in the royal harvester that ||shoots like the little bug things and is like a cocoon|| I can’t get passed it

[robust ridge]

use spoiler tags, || on each side of the section you want hidden

||like this||

[muted arch]

Oh okay

[robust ridge]

||can you one shot the things it's spawning||

[muted arch]

No I can’t

[robust ridge]

come back later then

that makes the fight MUCH harder

[muted arch]

Is a later boss because I’m new to the game and I only just got the ||lantern|| 17 hours in

[robust ridge]

edit your original message with them

||lantern|| needs spoilers too

[robust ridge]

not sure actually, but it's very optional so most people just choose to do it later

once you get some more gear it's like the easiest boss in the game

[muted arch]

So any advice on what I should get

[robust ridge]

can i see your map?

of the full world

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[muted arch]

Yes I can see most of the ||map|| but don’t have some of the area

[robust ridge]

no, I want to see your map so I know what you've explored

[muted arch]

Oh

[neat nymph]

i just killed the ||radiance|| and im happy 😄 but... i dont see her in ||godhome||

[simple island]

Yup that’s normal

[neat nymph]

so where she is

[simple island]

To get the statue you need to advanced more in the ||pantheons|| specifically

[neat nymph]

oh

okay

[soft olive]

I need to get to get to ||False knight so I can dream nail the little guys then I can fight failed champion|| but its blocked

[robust ridge]

||break the wall||

[soft olive]

But

I need a guide how to navigate around ||infected crossroads||

[coarse nest]

Late game doubt
||There's this one godhome hall of gods pedestal with a description like "I defend in my queens dreams" or something like that||

Is this a ||pantheon|| based boss or overworld boss?
Don't tell me who that is, just the area in which to find em pls

[coarse nest]

Map doesn't update, but you can look for a way around

[soft olive]

K

[robust ridge]

||overworld, all the pantheon bosses are in the top right corner of the hall of gods (excluding grimm)

you don't need this boss for the pantheons though, it just won't be present||

[coarse nest]

Alr, I'll look around in the overworld
What area are they in?

[robust ridge]

i don't recommend getting them

[coarse nest]

......ominous

[robust ridge]

probably like top 5 hardest

*definitely

[coarse nest]

Damn

Does it give %age tho?

[robust ridge]

no

[coarse nest]

Yeah alr then I ain't going to look for it lmao

[robust ridge]

just ||esssence|| if that wasn't obvious given the description

but there's more than enough even without it

[coarse nest]

I'm gonna get ||100% and cry over white palace now||

[coarse nest]

Yeah I have ||awoken dream nail rn, not looking for every bit of essense possible rn||

Anyways, gonna go deal with an actual big infection irl now(saw some ants on my bed)

[robust ridge]

the "termite" variation of that boss is the hardest boss by far

[undone storm]

guys where is the ||grimchild flame guy|| in the forgotten crossroads?

[urban forge]

There isn't one I don't think

I may be being stupid though

Also they should be marked on your map

[primal ibex]

there isn't one in ||crossroads||

[undone storm]

thanks

[sinful vortex]

||make sure to equip grimmchild to be able to see them||

[undone storm]

already done

[strong geode]

||any tips on broken vessel?||

||my charms are dashmaster soul catcher spell twister defenders crest mark of pride jonis blessing soul eater dreamshield||

[hazy crystal]

||defender is good against the shitty lil blobs, cuz it one shots them||

also look up the wiki

[hoary anvil]

surely you just mean obtained, right?

as above said, ||defenders crest is good in this fight in particular ((allows you to ignore the balloons while healing))||.

i would say ||avoid joni's blessing ((healing is very good)), assuming using spells catcher+twister > soul eater, mark of pride if range is helpful, dashmaster/dreamshield don't help much but they don't really hurt either||

[worldly bramble]

r u guys talking about ||lost kin||?

or what

[hoary anvil]

not quite, it's ||bv||

[austere viper]

||Broken Vessel is much easier if you don't miss the shortcut||

That's all you really need for the fight to become much easier, since you can attempt the boss right after death

[nova stream]

||how do I progress after completing the third trial in the colosseum?||

[livid shoal]

[austere viper]

||Depends what else you done, colo can be done anytime honestly||

[livid shoal]

[nova stream]

how do I measure what else I have done?

[nova stream]

how?

[livid shoal]

|| on both sides

[nova stream]

there we go

[forest nest]

Spoil

[livid shoal]

They don't do anything

[forest nest]

Tag

[austere viper]

||You could just say a couple notable things you've done recently I guess?||

[jade sedge]

Please delete the image and resend with spoiler tags

[languid depot]

sorry

[livid shoal]

Hai Otso

[languid depot]

||is there some sort of boss above ismas grove because there are gates and im not sure if i should go||

[austere viper]

No I don't think so

[jade sedge]

||If there is no boss, its safe to go there. If there is a boss, you should go beat it because bosses often have cool rewards||

[languid depot]

||lol but i really just wanna go to a stag station and get to dirtmouth cuz its getting late||

[jade sedge]

Remember spoiler tags

[languid depot]

||is there a boss here its above the grove||

[jade sedge]

If you really want to know, ||no ||

[coarse nest]

Late game q, any general tips for ||white palace?||

I got ||hiveblood, so that's the infinite health sorted||

[robust ridge]

Have you gotten all the ||grubs||?

[coarse nest]

No, I'm left with a few

[robust ridge]

||deep focus + grubsong is limited to like 157 HP under ideal conditions but is much faster||

[coarse nest]

Mostly ||peaks ones because I'm finding the timings for the crushers annoying||

Uhhh yeah that's ny current build as per our previous conversation lol

||Grubsong is at like 10 grubs, the all things is elegy innit?||

[robust ridge]

Ye

[robust ridge]

||elegy has a synergy which makes grubsong strong enough for it to be truly infinite||

[coarse nest]

Ahhhh didn't know that

I could do more ||grubs rn yes, but I am trying to be a bit dramatic and fancy, and I wanna finish my 100% by doing pantheons||

I'm at ||98 rn||

If I reach the ||pantheon boss but lose to it, do I unlock it in hog or is that only after finishing the pantheon?||

[robust ridge]

It does work

You don't need to win

[coarse nest]

nice nice

Once this weekend hits, I'll get to ||100%||

[robust ridge]

If you had to win ||godhome|| would be 10x worse

[robust ridge]

The only percent you'd get from them is ||elegy||

[coarse nest]

I think I have ||less than 7 remaining tho so should be pretty close||

[analog raven]

Should I ||upgrade my nail? I just got a pale pre but I remember seeing someone say I shouldn’t do it? Why is that and should I upgrade?||

[coarse nest]

Inventory pic?
Spoilered pls

[analog raven]

I added the spoiler warnings

[coarse nest]

No I mean send a pic also with spoiler warning

[analog raven]

Oh ok

[coarse nest]

You probably have the thing I'm worried about spoilering but just in case

[robust ridge]

||it increases the HP of a select few bosses, though it's still worth getting the upgrade

the only reason you'd worry about it is if you were a speedrunner and spells were your entire damage source||

[coarse nest]

And iirc the first few upgrades||don't actually increase it that much/at all||

Imo it's worth it to upgrade

[robust ridge]

people make that claim because they don't understand what someone else meant and end up basically spreading misinformation in the process

[analog raven]

Oh ok

[robust ridge]

some of them are increased at ||2 and 4|| only

I believe

[coarse nest]

Do you have the ||dream nail||?

[analog raven]

Yep

||403 essence||

[coarse nest]

So basically this, the bosses are ||warrior dreams|| but it's not gonna make that much of a difference to a casual playthrough

[robust ridge]

No there are some other ones too

But the scaling is far less

you should for every boss though

it's just not as worth it compared to things that don't scale

[robust ridge]

for example, ||watchers are 220 but scale to 240 then 260 at nail 3/4||

[coarse nest]

Oh yah ||watchers||

But as you said it's pretty trivial scaling

[robust ridge]

also ||dung defender|| I think

and maybe ||hive knight||?

there's quite a few it's just negligible

[coarse nest]

Once you have the upgraded nail and if you're efficient enough it cancels out

[coarse nest]

If you go a no ||spell no strength nail only against him, it comes out to needing 140 nail hits for base nail, and only like 43 for pure nail||

[robust ridge]

I mean yeah it's def worth it

[coarse nest]

Is hk completion ||%age calculated in discrete chunks or are fractional percentages also there?

Basically I'm planning to do P1 to finish out the 100, bit I was wondering if I can do some more dream bosses before like failed champion, is there any chance it can send me from 98.something to 100?

Or is it just a flat 1% minimum per objective?||

[fluid mulch]

||pretty much just 1% per objective, but some things dont give a percent iirc||

||also some give 2%||

[coarse nest]

Nvm I'm a dumbass

I forgot to get ||glowing womb||
I'm gonna get that and then ||finish P1 to complete out 100%||

Ukw I'm just gonna make a backup of my save
Just in case

Anyways steam sync doesn't work so shouldn't be a problem

Goddamit my urge to be dramatic is clashing with my urge to take the easy way out

[austere viper]

What is the urge to be dramatic about?

[coarse nest]

I want to get ||completion achievement, but that needs an ending after getting to 100%

The easy way out is just go kill thk be done withit, I am at 98 rn, can easily get 100 from collecting charms and stuff I forgot

The insane part of my brain is saying, fuck the pantheons, fuck easy charms and vessels, go finish white palace, get voidheart, and get the dream no more ending||

Major end game late spoilers

[acoustic sigil]

Fwiw that's only 1%

[urban forge]

If you plan to do both eventually anyway, you may as well get both at once and do them in style

[austere viper]

||Go P5 ending or no balls||

[urban forge]

They haven't done ||pantheons yet so would be at 102%||

[coarse nest]

Exactly
However the fact is I got work to do I have a damn thesis to write which means no time.to get good at the game

[coarse nest]

Sir
I'm the dumbass who died to ||gorb and soul warrior in P1||

I'll try to get ||p5|| before Silksong is out

[austere viper]

||Meh, then you got time for like 2 more years anyways||

[coarse nest]

Ngl I am getting good enough at ||P1 to think I can go for a steel soul run at this point||

If I do ||steel soul, I could probably fit it in under 20.hours|| cuz most of my playtime was fucking around and accidentally leaving the game on

[austere viper]

||Honestly the biggest run killers in Steel Soul are regular enemies, so getting good at the bosses isn't that important (Atleast for me)||

[fluid mulch]

||for me it was doing a blue lake shade skip||

[coarse nest]

.....my man you can't ||shade skip on steel soul|| for rather obvious reasons

[austere viper]

||I could see that lol||

[coarse nest]

This way I'll use||fragile charms|| at least

[acoustic sigil]

Thats why it killed the run

[strong geode]

||will i be locked out of the true ending if i do normal?||

||i really dont want to fight lost kin||

[coarse nest]

Quite the opposite

After getting|| any ending you are warped back to the bench||

But if you have the ||equipment for true ending, a particular item makes it so that you can no longer get the base en di ng||

[coarse nest]

What's your charms rn?

[shut sparrow]

I don't see how this connects to the previous question if it does

[strong geode]

||i thoight the dream bosses were mandatory for true ending?||

[robust ridge]

||not necessarily, you just need lots of essence||

[strong geode]

||oh thank goodness||

||i hate lost kin||

[robust ridge]

||i don't think it's possible to get enough without doing a few dream bosses at least||

||well, that is if you don't want to spend dozens of hours in one room grinding basic enemies||

[strong geode]

kk

||does dropping geo in the fountain do anything||

[coarse nest]

||Cuz the annoying orange blobs?||

[strong geode]

||mmm i dont really mind them it's just super erratic which scares the hell out of me||

||like the sky isn't safe at all||

[analog raven]

||I just entered the mind of a large corpse and lit up a red torch, should I be worried?||

[coarse nest]

Does hk have a low% TE speedrun?
I'm seeing potential for a Zelda rupeeslide scenario here

[coarse nest]

No

[robust ridge]

yes

it's like 50 hours long

watch skurry's videos on it

[analog raven]

What does that mean 😭

[coarse nest]

I mean it's not something that's gonna put you in immediate danger, so don't worry rn

[analog raven]

Oh sure I guess, but like why did carnival music play for like 15 sec?

[coarse nest]

Go chill with ||elderbug or something, do some shopping at sky's, etc||

[coarse nest]

You'll find out as you explore, go back to earlier areas again for new stuff tho
Potential spoiler
||Carnival music cuz the circus is in town(in a manner of speaking)||

[analog raven]

Oh that’s sick

||Eleder bug|| says he feels uncomfortable

I don’t want ||elder bug|| to be sad

[formal dust]

yes

do you want to know what

[strong geode]

||yes please||

||i dropped like 67 in earlier||

[formal dust]

||once you drop 3000 geo you get a vessel fragment||

[strong geode]

||a little disappointing||

[neat nymph]

you need it

[acoustic sigil]

Please edit your message with spoiler tags

[formal dust]

?

[neat nymph]

like it helps a lot

when you have every one of them

[formal dust]

ok?

let them decide what to do

[rain ridge]

||does dream shield block radiance orbs?||

[strong geode]

||any tips for the hornet rematch?||

[formal dust]

it's pretty easy if you use good ||charms|| imo

what do you have so far?

[austere viper]

||I guess the tips would be: Don't get too greedy with your hits or you can get punished, and (not sure if it's the best option, but I found it a pretty decent strat) when she puts the spiky balls around the arena I like to hit her with DDark to get rid of some of them aswell as hitting her||

[scarlet folio]

help

[sour vigil]

I just beat her on my second try thank you

[tired patio]

||shoude i target one or try get both oblobels at the same time||

[robust ridge]

absolutely not worth it even if it does

just ||dash under them||

[lament lake]

target one

[tired patio]

ok thx

any more advice for that boss?

[lament lake]

||you can try to hit both bosses with one spell every now and then to make the fight end quicker
if you need to you can back away when they shoot out acid blobs and focus on dodging then go back to attacking while they're moving around||

[tired patio]

thanks man

||ill tell you if i beat theme on asscended and radiant||

[tired patio]

||almost radiant, died last second||

[rancid flame]

Anyone got the list of bosses for ||Pantheon of the Knight|| so I can practice?

[robust ridge]

||1. enraged guardian
2. lost kin
3. traitor lord
4. no eyes
5. white defender
bench
6. failed champion
7. markoth
8. watcher knights
9. soul tyrant
10. final boss (you will die here on your first time to the end)
||

[rancid flame]

||Why am I gonna die to soul tyrant? Its soul tyrant.||

[robust ridge]

||to the final boss, not soul tyrant||

[rancid flame]

||I've also been practacing pure vessel||

[robust ridge]

wait how

[rancid flame]

||PV is the only one I know on the list||

[robust ridge]

||godseeker mode||?

[rancid flame]

||yeah||

[robust ridge]

oh you'll be fine then

[rancid flame]

If anything i'm scared of the ||watcher knigjts lmao||

[robust ridge]

practice them then

[hoary anvil]

-# if only you could practice that one other one there by default

[rancid flame]

||Is there a way to fight normal radiance in the godhome?||

[hoary anvil]

mods

[robust ridge]

no

[rancid flame]

Fuckkkk im on xbox dude

How tf i get mods on xbox

[lament lake]

you dont

[rancid flame]

Do I airdrop the mods to my xbox or smthn

[hoary anvil]

you probably don't 😔

[robust ridge]

you can't

[rancid flame]

Actualy I'm gonma try that

[hoary anvil]

(idk im a keyboard player on steam)

[tired patio]

is it worth practising bosses on ||asscended, for p5||

[robust ridge]

yes

[lament lake]

i mean
if you want to be more confident about them sure

[robust ridge]

||some of the arena changes are gamechanging||

[tired patio]

i did half of theme

[neat karma]

You cant

[lament lake]

half forgot about those

[tired patio]

for me pearsonoly the only problem is || markoth with no floor||

[grim arch]

Im scared of fighting him ngl

[robust ridge]

he's not that bad, just use ||nail arts for phase 1 and shade souls for phase 2||

[tired patio]

i beat him, but thene im at like 3 mask ||next fight is zote||

and i die and restart

[shell spade]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

the mods got him 😭

you gotta censor ||zote|| my guy

[noble shell]

Why are we censoring everything

[robust ridge]

to not spoil new players

because people here are at varying points in the game

[noble shell]

Oh

I thought we censor the Z word because we disapprove of what the Z word is related to

[robust ridge]

no

you just spoiler tag basically everything

only in this channel

[noble shell]

Oh ok

I can't do it on mobile without tagging the entire message

Wait actually |||a|||

Oh that is the right character

||hi||

[robust ridge]

yeah it's 2 ||

[plush rapids]

Does anyone know where I can access the mod installer 2?

[stoic cedar]

this channel is for unmodded help. please go to #modding-discussion or #1057825333841240104 instead

[plush rapids]

Alrighty.

[south cobalt]

Hello

[robust ridge]

do you need help with something?

[olive mirage]

wassup chat I made it

[manic abyss]

what is this

i have 100 hours in the game and have never seen that

[robust ridge]

have you completed the game 112%

it's in a postgame area

[simple island]

now go get ||16||

[olive mirage]

||150 hours||

[olive mirage]

Nah ||p5 will prolly come first. I’m close||

||just need to learn absrad better||

[simple island]

wait...

you...

haven't done ||p5 ||?

oh boy

[verbal saffron]

teent lore,,

[simple island]

you can go straight for ||p5, or get 12, 16 is probably a bit overkill||

[hoary anvil]

🤔 wild, i thought for sure you had already gotten all achievements

[hoary anvil]

i did the overkill one i guess

-# assuming that means what i think it does

[south cobalt]

yo yall got any tips for ||p4|| ? its the last thing i need for 112

[robust ridge]

||practice any boss you take more than like 3-4 hits to until you don't in the hall of gods||

it'll save you a lot of time

[south cobalt]

ok

thx

[hoary anvil]

my personal build was ||hybrid nail/heal with strength/quick slash (dps) + quick focus/shape of unn (to allow me to sneak in heals easier to stay alive)||, although the one you'll want to go for will vary depending on preferences and playstyle. if your goal is to dps check everything then it won't be the build for you.

[solid heart]

Wait, you haven't done ||P5?!!!!||

[olive mirage]

yep

its really hard

a lot of regulars havent

[hoary anvil]

and here i thought i was just decent at the game, after all haven't done ||p5ab||

-# or any except ||p1ab iirc||

-# actually i'd need to double check that

[solid heart]

Honestly that surprises me

[hoary anvil]

ya know what i'm going to boot up hk now ((haven't done much outside of the final 3 in a while)) and through an ||all bindings pantheon|| attempt out there

apparently i'm only missing ||P5AB||, i just forgot about doing the other ones confusing them with my (failed at the end) ||R1|| attempt

i think instead i'll restart my itemless challenge run but this time not permanently mess up the save completion analyser thing by ||killing bluggsacks and leaving their eggs for later with ideas of going for max eggs||

[lime sinew]

Anyone has a ||good build who uses fairy+ sword charms?||

[stoic cedar]

||there isn’t anything called fairy in the game. Could u elaborate on what u mean by that?||

[lime sinew]

||Magic mb||

My English isn’t too good

[stoic cedar]

What charms do u have? Can u show ur charm inventory

[lime sinew]

Sure

I fogor

[lusty yarrow]

I just deafeated ||traitor lord|| and got the ||first half of that charm||. I don't know what to do next, so can I have a hint on how to get ||the other half?||

[lime sinew]

||you have to awake your dream nail and go to the white palacius||

[lusty yarrow]

How do I ||Awake my dream nail??||

[primal ibex]

Get ||1800 essence||

[lusty yarrow]

pain

[stoic cedar]

||smth like shaman stone + strength + quick slash + steady body or grubsong is very good||

[lime sinew]

Get ||1800||

[lime sinew]

It’s easy trust me

[lime sinew]

Ty

[lime sinew]

I got it like in 1 day or 2

[lusty yarrow]

Well how do i get it quickly; the most i've gotten is ||700.||

[primal ibex]

Then go to ||Palace Grounds ||

[primal ibex]

Beat a bunch of ||dream warriors||

[lime sinew]

Do ||dream bosses and dream fighters, there’s 3 dream bosses: tyran of soul, failed champion and lost kin, they are: fake knight, broken vessel and master of soul||

[lime sinew]

I prefer do ||dream bosses||

[primal ibex]

If you don’t have enough after that go to ||false knight arena|| and look for a breakable wall

[primal ibex]

They are much harder so I would do the ||warriors|| first

[lime sinew]

But you got so much ||essences|| in a row then finding theses ||dream warriors||

[primal ibex]

That’s true

[lime sinew]

Lol

[lusty yarrow]

Where do you find the ||dream bosses||

[forest parrot]

does anyone have any tips for ||hornet sentinel|| I'm on my 25th attempt of that fight and its getting kinda draining

[lusty yarrow]

what ||charms|| are you using?

And do you have the ||hidden bench|| nearby so you can get to the fight quickly?

[forest parrot]

Yeah I'm using the ||bench||

I've tried a few builds

But the one I've gotten the farthest with is ||mark of pride, long nail, and grubsong||

[lusty yarrow]

First tip: ||Only heal when hornet is parrying||

[lusty yarrow]

That is a good build.

[lusty yarrow]

Healing other times is risky.

Also, do you have ||desolate dive||

[forest parrot]

Yeah I have it

I've seen a few ||spell builds using that spell||

For the fight

[lusty yarrow]

I'd reccomend walking around ||crystal peaks|| for a handy thing.

[forest parrot]

If your referencing ||descending dark|| I've picked that up

And I have the ||3rd nail upgrade||

[lusty yarrow]

Ok, you should be good then. ||If you can, get more charm slots||

If you feel safe to, ||use spells||

[forest parrot]

What I've been doing is using ||shade soul to clear her spike trap things||

[raven wedge]

Hello y'all I'm 14 minutes into the game and I have found this enemy that is super tough to beat it's killed me twice it's called ||Brooding Mawlek|| am I supposed to be fighting this yet

[polar flicker]

Not rlly

It's def possible

But not the intended way

[raven wedge]

How late into the game is that enemy?

[polar flicker]

||I wud say after like getting one or two movement upgrade||

[raven wedge]

Why are they so accessible until then?

[polar flicker]

Cuz u can beat it even now with patience and pattern recognition

But I'd recomend doing it after u go a bit further

[lunar furnace]

anyone got any advice for ||path of pain||?

[lunar furnace]

if you want you can fight it but id recomend getting some stuff first

[raven wedge]

Do I just permanently lose half of my energy flask if I die while trying to get the soul back

[polar flicker]

No

[raven wedge]

How big IS hollow Knight? The game

[forest remnant]

It's big (shot)

[polar flicker]

U mean the hours ?

[raven wedge]

Yeah

[forest remnant]

Use hiveblood

[polar flicker]

|| around 10-15 hrs for the fastest ending
For max percentage id say around 70-80 hrs ||

[polar flicker]

This assumes ur an avg player
But if ur rlly good it can be much shorter

[mortal vine]

it could be closer to 30-50 if you are cracked at video games

yeah exactly

[forest remnant]

How do I put a spoiler or cover the text up?

[mortal vine]

put || in front and after the text

[polar flicker]

|| ||

[raven wedge]

You forgot `

[polar flicker]

|| this on both sides

Of the text

[forest remnant]

||test||

[mortal vine]

yup

[raven wedge]

Congrats

[forest remnant]

Alright thanks

[raven wedge]

My controller just died come on man I was in the zone lol

[lunar furnace]

||112% is 50-80 hours||

[polar flicker]

Like I said it's for the avg player

[forest remnant]

Any tips for ||charm binding of P-5?|| I got the rest but that one I'm struggling at.

[stoic cedar]

||without charms like quick slash and strength, nail arts become a good alternative option to maintain a relatively high dps given the restriction. u should also be weaving in lots of spell usage in ur playstyle as well. even without shaman stone they deal a lot of damage.||

[hoary anvil]

what i did was play more cautious and also knew my healing windows. i prioritized healing up when possible too. for instance, there's several itemless heal opportunities against ||nkg|| if you know where they are.

-# in ||nkg||, the heal spots i would go for would be ||end of flame pillars after the 4th telegraph spawned and you're out of the way, or the swipe into fireball uppercut after moving out of the way of the swipe and positioning yourself where the fireballs wouldn't hit you||

[undone storm]

is the ||intermediate colloseum best way to farm geo?||

[hoary anvil]

iirc yes if you're good at it

[tranquil oriole]

the 2nd one, yes

[hoary anvil]

it's also less mind numbing than the alternatives ((farming ||hoppers|| as they give decent geo and respawn when you exit the room))

[undone storm]

i see

thanks

is spending geo on ||all unbreakable charms|| worth it?

[hoary anvil]

ofc if you're dying at it then no. that said going turbo through it can be pretty fun

[tranquil oriole]

not really, but it’s worth doing if you have a lot of stuff left

just to have done it

[hoary anvil]

depends entirely on what you're hoping to get out of it, i do it because completionism

[tranquil oriole]

not really for value

you’ll only use 1, maybe 2 of them

[undone storm]

heart and strength

[hoary anvil]

-# ||unbreakable greed|| is probably the first one to skip as beyond a point it's loses all use

[tranquil oriole]

spoilers, but ||strength yes heart maybe||

[undone storm]

fair

[hoary anvil]

ofc only doing some of them would bother me so... i personally just do all of them

[undone storm]

yeah i get it

maybe i'll do that in my ||soul steel run||

[tranquil oriole]

hell no

why would you make it so ||charms don’t break when you die, if you can’t die anyway||

[undone storm]

completionist

[tranquil oriole]

i guess yeah

light 36k

[hoary anvil]

precisely why i did it on my ||steel soul 112|| file

[rain ridge]

||charm builds for beating ascended markoth?||

||preferrably defensive||

[somber hill]

:0

[hoary anvil]

assuming you're going for it specifically and don't care about anything else, for hitless i personally used like ||nailmaster's glory (great slash was my main damage source early, played defensive and hit when opportunities arose) + steady body (prevented the swing to start charging a nail art from knocking me away from a wall i was trying to get to), then used shaman/twister + a bunch of soul generating charms so i could dump shade souls into it for phase 2. for ascended specifically, shape of unn could be worth considering to heal when swords are spawning but it's still riskier than outranging the shield spiral and healing then.||

[tranquil oriole]

||nmg|| is pretty convenient

most people learn the boss with ||nail arts|| their first time doing the harder difficulties

[undone storm]

how do i deal with the ||exploding bats at the colo both r2 and r3||

[keen stream]

stay in the ceiling

[undone storm]

how

[keen stream]

||wall jumps||

[hoary anvil]

yeah, as meii said there's the ||hide on the wall|| strat ((using ||crystal heart without releasing|| also works, iirc ||the left wall is better as the hitboxes allow you to stall higher on the wall||)). there's also the harder but faster strat of ||hit them with your nail before they drop, which can kill them and also if properly spaced you can barely outrange the explosion||. ((faster because ||once they're dead it allows the next one to spawn, and it kills them faster||))

[rain ridge]

||i tried shape of unn it wasnt worth it for me, ill try learning him with nail arts but ive been trying to avoid it cause ive been fumbling when i try to use those||

[drowsy yarrow]

Here's some ||markoth|| tips and demos: #hk-help message

[rain ridge]

thank you!!

[drowsy yarrow]

you are welcome!

[neat nymph]

any tips for ||god tamer? i know "focus on the beast" but i need really useful tips||

[urban forge]

||D-dark|| Is very useful

You can also pogo it when it's doing the ||acid spit||

[midnight wraith]

Yall is ||long nail, quick slash and shaman stone a killer charm combo?||

[torn vector]

||Honestly swap long nail for something else||

Trust me

[neat nymph]

thx

[midnight wraith]

Hmm i did consider it, 2 notches is kinda not worth it

[urban forge]

If you have it, add ||strength|| and you achieve godhood

[gloomy moth]

Hey, I've just started this game, is there any list of tips for new players?

[urban forge]

Keep trying, some parts can be very difficult but don't give up, it's worth it!

[midnight wraith]

Nah i do t have it yet guess i'll just go with ||compass and geo magnet||

[urban forge]

||gathering swarm is underrated||

[midnight wraith]

But if i'm facing against a boss what are some s teir 2 notch charms

[midnight wraith]

Fr dude increases productivity by 70%

[drowsy yarrow]

• Watch out for spoilers! Don't click any spoilered text not directed at you.
• Every boss is fair, but some will take some effort to learn.
• Explore the edges of your map if you're lost. Backtracking is well rewarded.
• Don't worry too much about money. It's easy to get enough for all your needs.

[midnight wraith]

If you encounter pink or violet mushrooms downslash them to bounce upward the game does not friggin tell you that
Oh god it took me days to figure that one out when i was a newbie

[drowsy yarrow]

That's one you should probably allow them to try to figure out for themself, because it's gratifying to figure it out

[gloomy moth]

Thanks guys

[urban forge]

As someone who took far too long to figure it out I'd argue it is a worthy inclusion

[vagrant bough]

||what is the second circle next to radiant medal for? how do i get it?||

[urban forge]

Later you unlock a second version of the boss

[vagrant bough]

how tho

[urban forge]

||p5||

[vagrant bough]

do i need to beat ||the pantheon with mantis?||

[midnight wraith]

Eh i almost quit the game at that point

[vagrant bough]

welp until then im happy with my radiant medal

[drowsy yarrow]

Didn't realize it was that common fair enough

[vagrant bough]

||also, through the 112% completionist checklist page i did every boss that i believe exists, but some of the statues in hall of gods are still missing. why is that?||

||i dont think there are iterations of zote||

already have that one

[drowsy yarrow]

||Not all bosses are a percentage point, mainly the ones unlocked in godhome||

[vagrant bough]

||do i unlock them through pantheons? only one that i believe im missing is brooding mawlek (or whatever the one guarding a pale ore in crossroads is called), but there are more statues than that one||

||many of the signs say "at pantheon's peak""||

[urban forge]

Those would be from ||pantheons||

Are there any others?

[vagrant bough]

||not sure, im guessing the ones i unlock through pantheons are the ones saying "at pantheon's peak"", but there are more without that||

[urban forge]

I might know them from their location in ||hog||

[vagrant bough]

||im guessing one of them is gonna be vessel?||

||something about "this empty god||

[urban forge]

Yeah I think so

[drowsy yarrow]

at least ||7 bosses are unlocked through the pantheons||

[urban forge]

||but I would have expected that to say at pantheons peak||

Also the || aforementioned mantis lords variant and a nosk variant are from pantheons||

[drowsy yarrow]

if you send a screenshot of your ||hall of gods tablet, I can tell you whether you're missing any overworld bosses||

[vagrant bough]

it does

[urban forge]

Oh nvm then

[vagrant bough]

yeah sadly i think i lost my radiant medal

[urban forge]

Wdym

How did you get in?

[white jetty]

My bad I was just editing it

I dived into the shaky ground

but it closed itself

once I had freed the grub

[urban forge]

Also you can always quit to menu to respond at the last bench

Are you playing with mods?

[white jetty]

I hope I didn't get an automatic save in the room :/

No mods at all

[urban forge]

You won't have

[white jetty]

I went in the room, killed the mob, freed the grub, and the hole was filled up again, is it a trap set on purpose by the game?

[urban forge]

That only happens at benches and very specific locations

[urban forge]

I don't think so

[white jetty]

I'll try freeing it again to see if the hole fills up again

[white jetty]

Oh well I went back to the menu, spawned at the tram's bench, and when I came back to the room the grub was already freed

I didn't know I was a time traveler 😭

[urban forge]

Yes quitting out saves progress

Was the floor broken when you came back?

[white jetty]

What it saves progress and still puts back at bench? If I had known I would've done it more often instead of wandering through deepnest 💀

[white jetty]

Nope

had to break it again

[urban forge]

Yes it's used in speedruns to fast travel to the last bench

[urban forge]

Weird

[white jetty]

Welp at least I'm free now, thanks a lot

[white jetty]

No wonder why

[gloomy moth]

I've been wandering for a bit in ||greenpath|| ||(also battled with girl)|| but didn't find the map, is that normal?

It's getting harder to keep track what I have explored

Also I found a new zone ||(fog something)|| but didn't even get the map of green path so I didn't continue that

[vagrant bough]

power outage, didnt save

[shut sparrow]

please also tag ||greenpath||
||It's normal that the map might not always be super obvious but you might have to look for it. Still I recommend trying to get it before really exploring the whole place. For greenpath look close to the entrance of it near crossroads. It's fairly close to the first bench, just a bit further down. If you beat hornet (the boss) you can likely just buy it in dirtmouth tho.||

[urban forge]

Oh

[vagrant bough]

sucks :/

[urban forge]

Sorry

[vagrant bough]

still there

somehow

thank god

[urban forge]

Yay

[vagrant bough]

i mean it wasnt hard

[shut sparrow]

regarding ||fog canyon: You can go there right now but you won't stay there for long. Generally exploring it is something you'll probably do a bit later. You can go through it to enter the next main progression area tho. Alternatively, which might be a bit easier, you can explore crossroads again after defeating the boss in greenpath||

[vagrant bough]

but still

[vagrant bough]

speaking of ||fog canyon, what is there to do other than cornifer, monomon (plus uumuu ig) and freeing grubs?||

[shut sparrow]

||there's a combat "ability"||

[urban forge]

You don't get the map for a while for that area, in general, it's best to just keep exploring and not ask here if you want to avoid spoilers unless you're not sure how to reach a new area or are otherwise stuck

[urban forge]

||the bank and a notch||

Also ig the ||station and it's mask shard if that counts||

[vagrant bough]

||i forgot about millibelle, but im not sure i got the notch. Also i dont remember which abbillity was there in fog (im guessing the howling one?)||

[gloomy moth]

||Ok it was in the shop||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[vagrant bough]

here

[urban forge]

The ||notch is at the top left of the right tall room||

[urban forge]

||God tamer||

[shut sparrow]

||if you miss a map entirely and do the main thing in an area (like the boss usually) the map will be available in the shop. Maps are extremely helpful for exploring an area for the first time though so still make sure to look for his papers and listen to his humming to try and find him as early as possible||

[urban forge]

||soul tyrant and whit defender||

[shut sparrow]

kinda but you don't need it

[urban forge]

They were asking what they were missing earlier

[vagrant bough]

||thought those would be with dung and master already in hog||

[gloomy moth]

||Ah that's what's humming is about, I was wondering about that as well, thanks||

[urban forge]

They ||are dream versions||

[vagrant bough]

||ik, but i thought they would be in hog wth their base already unlocked||

[shut sparrow]

||I just wanted to add that since they likely asked for overworld bosses to find out which they still had to get there. And god tamer isn't one of them just like the dream bosses||

[vagrant bough]

||do i have to go to sanctum again to go to soul master........||

[urban forge]

Not unless you've already fought them

[urban forge]

You also don't need ||white defender for pantheons though I don't think||

[shut sparrow]

||You can also just encounter them in the pantheon. They are there even if you didn't fight them||

[urban forge]

Wrong reply sorry

[urban forge]

Is that the case with all ||dream bosses?||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[urban forge]

I always forget that

[shut sparrow]

and also with ||god tamer and some others||

[urban forge]

Ik ||God tamer||

[shut sparrow]

I think also ||vengefly king, false knight and definitely nkg||

[urban forge]

Yeah those make sense

Random thought, what happens to ||false knight if you don't fight him and infect the crossroads?||

Does he just remain

[vagrant bough]

||do the obblobles (the ones in hog) shoot in set directions or does the angle change every time?||

[shut sparrow]

I think so

I can check

[shut sparrow]

it's a little different but it works like this:

[urban forge]

||Just BC all the other bosses that you don't need for pantheons were either missable or locked behind a hard challenge, false knight seemed like an outlier unless you can completely miss him somehow and this was the only way I could think of that happening||

[shut sparrow]

well you can definitely miss him just by not fighting him. It's not like he gives anything necessary

[shut sparrow]

also please tag this

[urban forge]

Oh sorry

[vagrant bough]

||also is it better to kill one of them and make the other mad, or to spread the damage to kill both in a short amount of time||

[urban forge]

Ik but most|| optional bosses you still need for the pantheons, I was just wondering why false knight was different||

[shut sparrow]

yeah true I have no idea

||anyways yes you just still encounter him normally eben after crosroads in infected||

[nova stream]

||how do I fight zote? the wiki says he is a boss but I finished all three trials of the colosseum but he is still jailed below it||

[zealous bear]

fortnite

[coarse nest]

Try doing ||a trial and see if he shows up there||

[nova stream]

okay!

[gloomy moth]

stuck here...
||it took me a while to master the jumping on the moving monster.
Now I can't go left cause it's too high... don't tell me I shouldn't be here yet 😭||

[tired patio]

do you have ||claw||

[gloomy moth]

No

[tired patio]

but it hink yiu can get past here by jumping on the platforms and thene ||dash|| to the main pillar and go to the platform on the next side, thene its the easienst way to ||cdash|| but if i rember corectly you can || pogo ||theme

[gloomy moth]

ehm don't really understand, I think I'll do it when I unlock other stuffs

thanks anyway

[tired patio]

ok

sorry

[tired patio]

ill try and do it with just ||dash|| and ill tell you if its posible, and if you want you can screen share

you cant without ||claw||

[shut sparrow]

for the future please don't mention anything a person asking for help might not know about. If you're unsure about what a person has already done you can simply ask to see their inventory

[tired patio]

O sorry

[shut sparrow]

||there isn't really any place "you shouldn't be yet". The game is about exploring and it's normal to just go somewhere and find out you're unable to continue for now. Keep looking for things on your map that look like they could still be explored further and you'll always find a way eventually. Rn there's not too much more in greenpath but as I mentioned earlier you can find more in crossroads or go through fog canyon||

[shut sparrow]

||in the end it comes down to preference. If you struggle more with both of them try to kill one quickly. If one of them is trickier maybe don't try to rush one as much. Either way you should not really focus on it too much. You can slightly adjust your playstyle but don't spend extra time just trying to deal equal damage to both or specifically try to rush one. What's mst important is the spells you cast always hit both if possible and both of them stay on the same side of the arena||

||also note that the second one gets a health boost for second phase so it'll take a while to kill it either way||

[tired patio]

are these charms good or shoude is swap anything out

[wooden otter]

||idk for what it is so i cant tell.|| (spoiler tag pls)

[tired patio]

||p5, and trying to asscend all bosses ( except absolute radianc)||

[shut sparrow]

I would add ||shaman stone instead of melody but otherwise it's great||

[tired patio]

ok ill give it a try

[wooden otter]

yea i think good enough

[shut sparrow]

make sure to use a lot of ||spells|| tho

[tired patio]

i do

what are the chances to get ||elder hus attack that goes form side to middle||

[sacred wren]

I believe they're half-and-half for the attacks, and teleports are independent

[tired patio]

ok

[frozen owl]

||how do i get to her?||

[wooden otter]

Just play you will find out

[wooden otter]

Btw spoiler tag it

[primal ibex]

Spoiler tag that

[primal ibex]

You need to go bottom left

[robust ridge]

you have to redo ||colo 1||

[robust ridge]

||is the rate of rotation constant?||

[shut sparrow]

I would assume so but I don't know for sure

[robust ridge]

I mean ||radiance's|| isn't

[craggy furnace]

does anyone have any tips for ||collo||

[robust ridge]

what charms and equipment do you have

you need || on both sides

[forest remnant]

You messed up your spoiler tag

Nvm

[robust ridge]

||like this||

[full hollow]

i accedentally sent it

yes

[robust ridge]

i\oh

[forest remnant]

Lol

[full hollow]

i meant to say that i am struggling at him

i cant dodge his dive attack

[robust ridge]

did you open the shortcut into ||soul sanctum||?

[craggy furnace]

||quick slash unbreakable strength the rest is changing||

[full hollow]

yes

[robust ridge]

||jump and dash, the hitbox is only big on/very close to the ground||

[robust ridge]

can you just show all of your charms and equipment

like screenshots

[full hollow]

is there any upgrades found in ||waterways||

[craggy furnace]

yeah one second sorry

[robust ridge]

||colo is 10x easier when you rely on your entire kit instead of nail||

[full hollow]

i went there but didnt find anything

[robust ridge]

||that'll help you against soul master? not really

what charms are you using right now and what do you have||

[full hollow]

im using ||grubsong ||and ||shaman stone||

[robust ridge]

spoiler tags

that's good though

[full hollow]

ok

[robust ridge]

you do seem a bit low on ||charm notches|| though

how many charms do you have in total?

[full hollow]

5

[craggy furnace]

wait can i spoiler screenshots?

[robust ridge]

yeah

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

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[craggy furnace]

oh ok

[robust ridge]

did you find one in ||soul sanctum||? did you buy a notch from ||salubra||?

[full hollow]

i have 5 notches and didnt find one in there

[robust ridge]

||check the room right before soul master||

[full hollow]

should i use ||spell twister|| instead of ||grubsong||

[robust ridge]

it's a great charm which works really well with ||shaman stone||

for 5 total

[robust ridge]

oh that's what i meant yeah

[full hollow]

ok

thx

[craggy furnace]

im doing ||second colo btw||

[robust ridge]

also, when it comes to healing during the fight, do it only when he ||staggers (deflates and stays still) or in the exact middle of the arena right after the attack where he moves across the arena with 4 orbs around him||

[robust ridge]

no i mean like what charms do you have

[robust ridge]

items screen?

you seem to be missing many really good charms

[craggy furnace]

could u tell me some i should get?

[dim frigate]

what happens to my soul when i die in the colosseum of fools?

[craggy furnace]

spoiler tag

[robust ridge]

||check out soul sanctum and grubfather||

[robust ridge]

||from the waiting area below, go all the way to the left||

there's a special room it spawns in

[dim frigate]

oh thank you ^^

[craggy furnace]

which charms should i be going for tho idc abt spoilers

[robust ridge]

btw ||flukenest kinda sucks for colo cause shade soul is op||

[craggy furnace]

ok

[robust ridge]

||spell twister and grubsong (though the latter isn't that important for colo)||

||also nail arts are really good for colo but you're missing 2||

[gloomy gorge]

||I beat radiance and got my 3rd ending, where do I go now?||

[robust ridge]

i'd also recommend ||upgrading your nail once more (looks like you only have the 2nd upgrade but i'm not fully sure||

[robust ridge]

completion %?

[gloomy gorge]

84

[robust ridge]

go around the map and finish basically everything

first

[craggy furnace]

3rd pretty sure

[robust ridge]

||you've found 4 pale ore total?||

[craggy furnace]

idk if im being honest kinda took a break from the game for a couple months

[robust ridge]

what's it called

hover over it in your inventory

[craggy furnace]

||channeled||

[robust ridge]

nope that's 2

[craggy furnace]

oh mb

[robust ridge]

ok in that case i'd try this

||quick slash, spell twister (go find it), shaman stone, dream wielder||

||shade soul kills all the annoying flying enemies like primal aspids instantly||

||leave 1 enemy alive at the end of each wave to dream nail for infinite soul to heal and use spells for the next wave||

repeat until you win

||colo 2 will give you another pale ore and exactly enough geo to upgrade your nail||

[craggy furnace]

alr

but

not enough notches for that build

wait nvm

u removed ||strength||

didnt see that

[robust ridge]

take off ||strength|| cause it's actually kind of a nerf here

||you want to get more soul from the random enemies to instakill the hard ones with spells||

[craggy furnace]

honestly i keep dying on ||dual obblewobbles||

[robust ridge]

||just save up soul, line up shade souls to hit both of them until one dies, and then spam abyss shriek on the last one||

they don't have that much hp

[craggy furnace]

are ||shade souls fireball upgrade||?

nvm

[robust ridge]

yeah

[craggy furnace]

ok

[robust ridge]

also i just checked their hp

you can just

||2 full shrieks on one, hit it twice with your nail (it dies), 3 full shrieks on the other one||

[robust ridge]

i recommend using ||shaman stone over flukenest|| in general btw

||flukenest is really good but only because of a bug which is kind of hard to utilize||

[craggy furnace]

ok what is the bug anyways?

[robust ridge]

basically the hitboxes linger so if an enemy/boss hitbox goes out then back into the hitbox they get hit twice

[craggy furnace]

ohhhh

[robust ridge]

if you space it perfectly when one "vibrates" it just deals hundreds of damage instantly

[craggy furnace]

damn

[robust ridge]

it's mostly used by specific speedruns though so i'd recommend just using ||shaman strength qs normally||

[craggy furnace]

also ik this is late game and kinda off topic but im kinda scared for like the ||jonis blessing charm in the abyss cuz ive heard once u go there the first time u cant go again or smth like that||

[sweet oak]

||jonis blessing is in howling cliffs||

i think you’re talking about ||lifeblood core||

[craggy furnace]

oh yeah

[robust ridge]

you're thinking of ||lifeblood core||

just make sure you grab the ||arcane egg first because taking lifeblood core locks you out of the room forever (nothing else is in there)||

||lifeblood core is on a pedestal so if you find an item on a pedestal leave and get the other one first||

[craggy furnace]

alr just got ||spell twister||

[shut sparrow]

||well radiance's attack needs that to bring more variety||

[jolly hamlet]

can somebody give me|| all grubs ||map

[robust ridge]

||collector's map ||

you can probably find one pretty easily by searching it up

[jolly hamlet]

i need it for a speedrun cuz i need ||pale ore||

i cant find it on google

[robust ridge]

||the grub pale ore is NOT speedrun viable||

you need 31

[jolly hamlet]

||i need 1 more grub for pale ore im doing 100% under 20 hours steel soul and im missing 1 more grub for pale ore||

[simple island]

If you are going for ||5 hour speedrun and want pale ores, 31 grubs is not the fastest way to go||

[robust ridge]

oh that one

[jolly hamlet]

its the 100% one

yea

[jolly hamlet]

im not doing htat one

[robust ridge]

which ||nail upgrade|| do you have

[jolly hamlet]

im doing 100%

need the third one

[robust ridge]

oh

[simple island]

Well if you want ||100%, you probably want to beat collector and get the key||

[jolly hamlet]

got ||channeled||

[simple island]

||Collector|| is a %

[jolly hamlet]

yeh but the guide im using from sum random guy doesnt go to him

so er

[simple island]

If you want the most complete ||map of hollow knight there is the "interactive map" which is a great side you can find online||

[robust ridge]

what completion and time are you even at rn

[craggy furnace]

@robust ridge i feel like not having ||strength|| is really nerfing me im dying on early rounds

[robust ridge]

what're you dying to?

[jolly hamlet]

3 hrs or sum

and i got maybe 50%

or more

[craggy furnace]

||infected gruz+primal aspid||

[simple island]

If you are on PC you could also install some mods to get the in game map to tell you everything
They are quite easy to install so I would recommend (look at the pins of #1057825333841240104 or #modding-discussion )

[robust ridge]

oh you're chilling then

[jolly hamlet]

yee

[robust ridge]

that's a really good pace

[jolly hamlet]

but finding the grub is annoying

[simple island]

20h is really easy

[robust ridge]

||shade soul one shots them||

[simple island]

Like don’t stress about wasting time