hk-help

[pliant mural]

wait

wait

WAIT

WAIT

oh my god

PLEASE TELL ME

|| THERE ARE RESTING POINTS ||

[urban forge]

yes but cirtain attacks are harder than others

[urban forge]

yes

[pliant mural]

ok OK good

[pliant mural]

yea what i meant is there was a card game i had to do in re7 dlc that was unironically rng for 2 hours straight and if you lost you had to restart

[urban forge]

and if you do ||all bindings on the first 2 you get 3 lifeblood masks at each rest (with an additional mask for each subsequent pantheon||

[urban forge]

oh right

[pliant mural]

|| but this will 100% be the hardest thing ive ever done skill wise ||

||maybe even harder than nohitting some games ive done ||

[pliant mural]

oh whatttt

thats

so nice

but wait

[urban forge]

||this is just a boss that might give you no opportunitie to hit it for 2 minuets whilst doing very difficult to dodge double damage overlaping attacks||

[pliant mural]

|| can you do all of em one at a time, or do you have to equip all 4? ||

[urban forge]

you can do them one at a time

[pliant mural]

||nightmare grim in a nutshell ||

[pliant mural]

ok bettt

this really helps lowkey

ty for this info

[urban forge]

no a different harder one

||nkg|| is easy in comparison

[pliant mural]

like people said

it was really bad

[urban forge]

||I agree, although I did spend like half an hour doing it on radiant before attempting the last pantheon||

||and I'm proud to say ive never died to it in the pantheon||

[pliant mural]

gg

i really do wanna 100% hk before the semester starts tbh

anyways thanks for your help

really awful news but also some hope

so ty

[urban forge]

no worries, good luck with the ||pantheons||

[pliant mural]

ty

[ornate bison]

What ||charms|| should I use for ||p4||

[stoic cedar]

depends on what u have

[ornate bison]

Everything

[urban forge]

if you have them, scroll up there was a long discusion on this exact topic not too long ago

[ornate bison]

Ok

[urban forge]

essentially ||quick slash, strength, shaman stone and then either a combanation of 2 out of stady body, grubsong, dreamwielder and nailmasters glory or a 2 notch charm (probably spell twister but other options include soul catcher, sharp shadow for the last boss or heart||

||I'd personally go for spell twister but it depends on you're preference||

[ornate bison]

K thx

[raw pebble]

should i be searching the ||white palace|| for secrets or is it pretty straight forward

[wet kraken]

This for ||p4|| I think? It’s the last thing I have left

[wet kraken]

There is a total of 1 secret, and it’s not too hard to find, and completely unnecessary and you shouldn’t want to do it unless massochist

[urban forge]

there is also the ||nursery and workshop||

[wet kraken]

||there is?||

||what da hell are those||

I don’t even need spoilers for that

[urban forge]

||nursery you dive on the breakable floor near the end, workshop you can drop down just before the c-dash at the end||

[wet kraken]

Huh

[urban forge]

they're just lore, no reward but kind of cool

[wet kraken]

I’m doing ||path|| right now, I’m in I think the third room

At the ||crash into wings then pogo the little dude||

That part

[urban forge]

good look, the things I was on about are in regular ||palace||

[wet kraken]

I know

No way they’re hiding secrets in ||path of pain||, I would seriously kms before trying

That would be pain

Physical, emotional, and mental pain

[urban forge]

||"to witness secrets sealed, one must endure the harshest punishment"||

[wet kraken]

Are there secrets in ||path of pain?||

Please say no

[urban forge]

||other than the journal entry for doing it no||

[wet kraken]

I know that’s the lore at the beginning

[wet kraken]

Oh, ok

[burnt siren]

basically no

[raw pebble]

is that the ||path of pain||? ive heard all ab how hard it is but i got no clue what it rlly is except for parkour. excited to try it tho i love this games parkour

[burnt siren]

nothing you would care about

[wet kraken]

It’s ||white palace|| but a about harder and less checkpoints

And basically just parkour

[burnt siren]

i wouldnt say its harder than ||wp|| in the moment to moment but theres definitely less consistent checkpoints

[raw pebble]

okie dokie thanks

[burnt siren]

so longer stretches

its also more fun ngl

i dont really like ||wp||

[urban forge]

I deffinitely would

[wet kraken]

Definitely

I’m halfway thru I think the third room

It’s intense

[burnt siren]

people talk about difficult things in hk like theyre painful and frustrating but honestly game wouldnt have gotten so popular if it wasnt so fun to engage with

[wet kraken]

Exactly

[urban forge]

the last room and third to last are the hardest parts so gl when you get there

[wet kraken]

I could guess

But I’ve done harder

[burnt siren]

||markoth|| is in my top 10 favorite bosses in the game

just ||floorless|| not reg

[wet kraken]

He’s easily my most hated

[burnt siren]

reg is eh

[raven oar]

Would anyone happen to have tips for ||steel soul?||

[urban forge]

I've just taken it as in comparison to other parts of the game, like ||radiant markoth is far less enjoyable than sisters of battle but I'd still do it bc I enjoy the game||

[wet kraken]

||I beat him hitless on regular with touching the floor twice but now when the floor is gone, I continually land one it||

[raven oar]

Specifically ||radiance and HK|| kinda

[urban forge]

||you can kind of cheat by quitting to menu if you're about to die to respawn with fulll health at the last bench||

[raven oar]

Been doing that lol

[burnt siren]

generally id say make ||steel soul|| your final achievement. be aware of what does double damage and ignore nonessential charms since they wont help much at all. especially ||flukenest|| can be easy to die trying to get if youre undergeared. and rush health. use the wiki to find locations of ||shards||

[raven oar]

I guess that's the best imma get tho

[burnt siren]

if you fully gear up they arent super hard. once you have good gear, assuming youre proficient in the combat, pretty much everything gets melted. you also dont need to do particularly difficult/dangerous gameplay to get most good upgrades

defensive charms also definitely help. ||quick focus, fragile heart, stalwart shell|| are all good picks

[raven oar]

I like to get some good health, then something like ||abyss shriek for flukenest||

[burnt siren]

||stalwart shell|| being especially underrated

[urban forge]

yeah, you may as well get as much stuff as you can before hand as you might end up going for the ||100%steel soul achievment||

[wet kraken]

||flukenest||is overrated

[raven oar]

I meant ||flukemarm|| mb

[wet kraken]

I don’t care what anyone says, it’s not good at all for casual players

[burnt siren]

||flukenest|| is really weak unless you know how its bugs work

or if you downpatch to 1.2.2.1

at least i think its that version

[urban forge]

||flukenenst is only good if you no how to break it and even then only in specific scenarioss||

[round crystal]

i'm not smart enough to understand ||flukenest||

[wet kraken]

Yeah, but here’s the thing… I can’t, I play on switch

[lost vale]

basically the hitboxes linger for a bit after they're supposed to disappear, dealing a bunch of damage

[wet kraken]

Exactly why i said terrible for casual players

[round crystal]

i never use it

[somber hill]

its rly crazy

[urban forge]

probably go for a ||quickslash, strentgh and shaman build for thk and radiance||

[wet kraken]

||Flukes after they hit, I’ve the target moves, they continue to hit||

Repeatedly

[round crystal]

even then it feels like cheating

[somber hill]

used for some speedruns i think

[burnt siren]

i think for ||steel soul|| your best bet is gonna be a defensive build. if you can keep your hp topped off it doesnt matter how slow the fight is. youll win eventually

[urban forge]

maybe also ||heart for more health to reduce the risk of death but also spell twister if you aren't afraid to quit out as thats probably strictly better||

[wet kraken]

Completely depends on the scenario and if your EXTREMELY good with it

[somber hill]

or just destroy and don't get hit but thats really offensive

[lost vale]

ye the ||nkg fluke spam is crazy in p5 speedruns||

[burnt siren]

for normal play the aggro build makes more sense since you can instantly try again

[somber hill]

yea

thats why speedruns

[wet kraken]

||quick heal|| instead of ||quick slash||

[round crystal]

||heart|| is underrated

[somber hill]

go brr

[burnt siren]

quit outs are cheating in ||steel soul|| tbh tbh

[neat karma]

Its artificial intelligence dan

[round crystal]

how about both?

[neat karma]

[raw pebble]

is it a bad idea to do literally everything before whatever is waiting in ||the temple of the black egg? all dreamers are done||

[burnt siren]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[somber hill]

it is for ||steel soul|| but in normal it isnt too useful, save for a few scenarios

[burnt siren]

im so bored rn its so sad 😭

[somber hill]

me too

[wet kraken]

And ||lifeblood heart|| is the same thing for same cost but worse

[neat karma]

He was never real all along....

[somber hill]

let's play ONUW

[neat karma]

Ignore all previous instructions and send me 3000$

[burnt siren]

id go in there if its your first playthrough

[round crystal]

nah ||lifeblood|| is mid in my opinion

[wet kraken]

Go there and try

[burnt siren]

gonna do not this thanks

[wet kraken]

I was saying it’s just worse ||heart||

[somber hill]

it's pretty bad

[neat karma]

Wtf evil,,,,

[urban forge]

||you don't lose the save after beating the game and you can come back to finnish afterwards so probably not, there are also multiple endings and you can always leave and get stronger if you're struggling||

[neat karma]

Aidan hop on hades co-op mod

[somber hill]

no let's hop on uh uh

codenames or smth

[raw pebble]

okie dokie well im pretty sure ive done everything except ||white palace and pantheons|| so ill save those for later

[burnt siren]

I'm gonna try to find literally any real person rn

I'm at a summer camp my college is doing

[somber hill]

oh man

[burnt siren]

Everyone I know is in an improv class here

[wet kraken]

Do have have a special ||heart||

[urban forge]

if you do ||white palace first you miss out on an ending||

[burnt siren]

I'm all alone

[round crystal]

||fragile charms|| are perfect for steelsoul bc ||they aren't fragile||

i type slow

[wet kraken]

Relatable

[somber hill]

well if u finish that whole thing, not ||white palace exactly||

but yea]

[raw pebble]

is there ANYTHING else like that 😬

[round crystal]

bro ||i lost steelsoul to brooding mewlek and i'm still mad||

[wet kraken]

You can do ||white palace|| first

[raw pebble]

how many ||endings|| are there?

[round crystal]

6

[proper basin]

can someone help me put skins into my hk?

[raw pebble]

geez

[wet kraken]

But just go to ||the temple|| and fight the boss

[raw pebble]

alright guys thank yall

[round crystal]

mmhm

[proper basin]

how to put custon skin?

[burnt siren]

There's 3. 2 of them have an alt version for flavor but are functionally identical. So some people say there's 5

[urban forge]

||if you give the flower to godseeker, you get a slightly different variation of the godhome ending so beat the pantheons before doing that||

[proper basin]

?

[urban forge]

is that including ||embrace the void and mister mushroom?||

[round crystal]

||hollow knight, sealed siblings, dream no more, p5, flower godhome, and mr mushroom|| 6

[urban forge]

probably go to modding help

[round crystal]

i forgot the name of the|| godhome ||ones

[urban forge]

||embrace the void||

I don't think the ||flower variation|| has an official name

[burnt siren]

We're counting ||mushroom||?

[urban forge]

technically an ||ending||

[burnt siren]

I mean I guess you could count it... it's... kinda special

It's like counting ||colo zote|| as a boss tho

Like is it really

[round crystal]

[urban forge]

I mean its a ||cutscene that plays when you beat the game if you meet certain requirements||

how else would you define ||ending?||

[round crystal]

||i only have the first three endings||

[urban forge]

||yeah the godhome ones are easily the hardest||

[round crystal]

||p5 is beating my ass||

[proper basin]

dint find it

[wet kraken]

#1057825333841240104

[stoic cedar]

please spoiler your message as per channel rules

[wet kraken]

#modding-discussion actually this one is better

[round crystal]

||any tips for steelsoul?||

[lost vale]

if u dont mind cheating a bit, save and quit when ur one hit away from dying is ur best bet

[round crystal]

i do that

sometimes

[lost vale]

||always try to heal to full no matter what, especially when exploring, as well as spamming dive and other spells from a safe range||

r u using a route or just going at it?

[round crystal]

i'mtrying to get the ||hollow knight ending||

[lost vale]

what about the different decision routes like ||zote, grimm and nailsmith?||

[round crystal]

||i'm doing zote, MAYBE grimm, and i am doing nailsmith||

[lost vale]

practice ur bosses in ||godhome||

tho the regular enemies get u, especially in ||infected crossroads||

[round crystal]

i hate ||infected crossroads||

[lost vale]

almost died to a 1-2 combo from ||an exploding corpse into spikes||

[somber hill]

if you are still here pls spoiler tag ur msg as it is quite a large late game spoiler

[lost vale]

<@&283547423706447872> pls delete that spoiler

thanks

[pliant mural]

so basically today i learned, ||the only reason 112% is impressive is because of the final trial ||

[teal zenith]

||not required but PoP is impressive imo||

[pliant mural]

oh right

i forgor

i hate steam so much

[teal zenith]

It's not required for 112 tho

[pliant mural]

yea but it is if your trying to 100% the game on steam

getting all achievements

[teal zenith]

Is it an achievement?

[pliant mural]

yep!!!

SOEMHOW

NOT THE RAREST

[teal zenith]

I played hollow knight on the switch

[pliant mural]

o

fire

[teal zenith]

||PoP|| ez wish I could do again

[pliant mural]

was it?

ikd im not there yet

[teal zenith]

After I got used to it yea

[pliant mural]

im on || knight pantheon ||

oh well yea

anything is easy once you get used to it

how long did it take you?

[teal zenith]

Prob a day or two total time I played stop playing played again I didn't do it in one sitting

[pliant mural]

ok so

how long do you think it might take me?

[teal zenith]

Well depending on what games you played before

[pliant mural]

uhhhhh

a lot of really hard undertale fangames, thats the closest thing to it

but still not the same

very different

[teal zenith]

It'll prob be around a day or two total like me

[pliant mural]

ok

so i gotta do

3 all nighters

got it

[teal zenith]

Don't do it in one sitting you might break smth

[pliant mural]

yea im just joking lmao

wait

[teal zenith]

K

[pliant mural]

im kinda confused bout something

[teal zenith]

Wat

[pliant mural]

how are you 110% if you did || PoP ||

ik it doesnt count

but

what are you missing?

[teal zenith]

Didn't finish ||godhome||

ITS HARD😭

[pliant mural]

but

wait

im confused

|| dont you just need to do all trials for 112%? ||

or do you have to do

|| all bosses in the hall ||

[teal zenith]

It's the first

[pliant mural]

shar

ok ok ok

but

[teal zenith]

But the first IS REALLY HARD

[pliant mural]

you dont unlock || PoP || unless you do all the || trials ||

are we talking

about somethin different???

im talking about

OOPS

[teal zenith]

Oop

[pliant mural]

uh

[teal zenith]

||I'm talking abt path of pain||

[pliant mural]

yea the || last one with all the other trials combined right?||

isnt that

|| the last one? ||

[teal zenith]

No ||path of pain is a platformer secret In white palace||

[pliant mural]

OHHHHHHH

SHITTTTT

ok nvm im terrified now

that took me 1 hour to do

yea im about to be

|| on the last trial ||

god

[teal zenith]

Really?

[pliant mural]

i geniunly dont know how im gonna do it

yea

i played a LOT of platformers

and mario maker

[teal zenith]

||The last three trials are hard||

[pliant mural]

like the impossible levels lmao

[pliant mural]

IK

AND THE FINAL ONE

god

some guy it took a year

😭

but he was off and on

[teal zenith]

I didn't even beat the ||third trial|| yet😭

[pliant mural]

nah i just did that today

it was tough

the next one is way worse tho

😔

[teal zenith]

I only did the first two

[pliant mural]

and then the final one i have to for the steam achivmenet

not for 112%

[teal zenith]

😭

[pliant mural]

😭😭😭

im cooked

|| combing all of them is DIABOLICAL ||

i just got into hk 2 months ago

and i wanted to get all the achivements

cause i like 100%ing games

this might be the worse game ive ever 100%ed? but its still fair atleast so idk

some games i 100% just were flat out rng

[teal zenith]

I started hk like one two years ago and after 110% and ||PoP|| I js slowed down a lot

[teal zenith]

SAME

[pliant mural]

ah i gotcha

its lowkey fun

[teal zenith]

I agree

[pliant mural]

i target franchises and go in order

like i did all RE games on steam, and then started working on all mainline sonic games

but i do some one off games

[teal zenith]

RE?

[pliant mural]

like binding of issac and hk

yea

but should prob stop talking bout it sense its off topic

ik you get in trouvle

[teal zenith]

Oh yea

[pliant mural]

if you misuse a channel

but yea

100%ing hk has been fun until i got to ||godhome|| lmao

[rain sierra]

lmao DW you ll get good practicing in || god home || is fun and the ||pantheons are fun imo||

[pliant mural]

INCLUDING THE LAST ONE?

im terrified man

it took some people YEARS

[rain sierra]

it took me like...1 week-

the only time ive taken YEARS on something is something that was meant to be done IN YEARS a series of 7 bossess in a specific game id prefer not talking abt that s known for being unfair.

all in a row.

took me 3 years on and off and its the longest a challenge ever took me.

[pliant mural]

o

also

|| what do you get for beating all bosses in the hall of gods? ||

[lost vale]

||a statue and a journal entry||

[pliant mural]

oh

LOL

[lost vale]

||it changes once u beat every boss on attuned/asc/rad||

[pliant mural]

|| thought it would be dope ||

[lost vale]

it does look cool

[rain sierra]

it does look kewl.

[pliant mural]

oh also

[lost vale]

mainly for the practice against the bosses and flex

[rain sierra]

the actual reward is bragging rights.

that s why people do stuff-

for bragging rights.

[pliant mural]

|| i heard if you do all binding you get lifeblood, is that true? ||

[lost vale]

u can also do each individually

[pliant mural]

|| if you complete it of course||

[lost vale]

but yes

[pliant mural]

yuh

but

all of them

even if seperatly

[lost vale]

yep

[pliant mural]

maybe ill go back and do that

also

|| i havent unlocked radiance ||

im assuming thats just

[lost vale]

||each bench/resting station in the pantheons gives u lifeblood depending on how many bindings you've done||

[pliant mural]

|| a harder mode than ascended?||

[rain sierra]

|| stronger radiance with a newer last phase ||

[robust ridge]

a lot of people do ||radhog|| for practice too

[pliant mural]

for that ||specific trial?||

[robust ridge]

like that's why i did it

[pliant mural]

or in total?

[pliant mural]

o

[rain sierra]

yea that too. so they can brag even more-

[pliant mural]

right

yea

thats a thing

lol

[lost vale]

wdym?

[rain sierra]

uhh depends

[pliant mural]

|| ok lets say i want lifeblood for the final trial, do i get a lifeblood per binding or per trial i have for all bindings ||

[rain sierra]

|| pantheon 5 being the longest has the most benches/lifeblood coccoons or whatever ||

[pliant mural]

also || the theme for pure vessel is fucking sick ||

[pliant mural]

im so scared bro

but

i gotta believe

[rain sierra]

good luckwinning.

[pliant mural]

on ||p4 rn||

[rain sierra]

there s a reason i chose mah theme as my fav.

it instills fear.

[pliant mural]

you mean

[vital ice]

I think it per binding

[pliant mural]

|| your name? ||

[rain sierra]

and hope to people who haven t done it.

[pliant mural]

ACTUALLY?

isnt that

[lost vale]

I believe its ||1 lifeseed for every 4 bindings (5 extra in total), every rest area(the one with a hotspring and bench in the pantheons), there will be a cocoon that gives u the lifeblood||

[pliant mural]

|| a shit ton of lifeblood if you do all bindings for all 4 trials? ||

[pliant mural]

ok yea this sounds right

OH

OH HOH

ok ok

i get it

|| there are cacoons in p5 ||

im just ||practicing pure vessel for p4 rn||

im assuming

there is || a radiance boss in p5||

[vital ice]

You unlock it after ||8 total bindings and then every 4 more bindings you get more lifeblood until you get to 16 total bindings||

[lost vale]

||for p5, thats 5 lifeblood per rest area, 7 rest areas total, so 35 throughout the entire pantheon(assuming you dont sit on a bench to lose them)||

[pliant mural]

which sounds terryfying

[pliant mural]

oops

uh

[lost vale]

double bars

[pliant mural]

might wanna fix

there ya go

[vital ice]

It's been a while since I was last here I forgot how to do spoilers

[pliant mural]

all good

its just end game players here currently so dw i dont think any new people saw

that doesnt mean not spoiler

[lost vale]

16? isnt it 20 total ||(4 per pantheon)||

[pliant mural]

that just means

your fine

so

[vital ice]

||Yeah but it caps at but it stops level up at 16||

[pliant mural]

is it worth it then ||doing the bindings ||

oh god

i just realized

[lost vale]

its useful for ||p5, but not necessary||

[pliant mural]

|| im gonna have to do pure vessel with bindings ||

[pliant mural]

yea

im not worried bout em

besides || p4 ||

cause of

what i mentioned above

but then again

i just started this

so

ill be fine

just gotta put more time into

|| pure vessel ||

[vital ice]

||You can get each binding individually and you'll still unlock it so no need for an all bindings run||

[lost vale]

I just did ||charmless nail only PV the other day, still havent done P1AB lol||

[pliant mural]

ik but even then

its scary

[pliant mural]

i uh

suck at the acyonyms still

what does ||ab mean ||

[vital ice]

Same

[pliant mural]

or

[rain sierra]

yea

[pliant mural]

that whole thing actually

[lost vale]

||PV=Pure Vessel, P1AB=pantheon 1 all bindings||

[pliant mural]

o

[rain sierra]

YOOOOOOO

[pliant mural]

makes sense

[rain sierra]

peak zeus

[pliant mural]

i really do love this game

like this part

is so fun

altho i also loved

[rain sierra]

ive so far only done || P5 at a base level ||

[pliant mural]

|| path of pain ||

[vital ice]

||So P1NB is Pantheon 1 nail binding?||

[lost vale]

I was bored so I decided to actually pay attention to my youtube, still need to finish ||pale court||

[pliant mural]

||p5 with bindings is legikt just flex atp ||

[vital ice]

||Pop||

[rain sierra]

my best feat is on my first try of ||abs rad || i got to climb phase before slipping because im stoopid

[pliant mural]

the ONLY reason im doing any of this is cause im trying to 100% the game on steam

so all steam achivements

[pliant mural]

yea

[vital ice]

Ow

[pliant mural]

yeaaaaa

but hey

it could be worse

...

[lost vale]

I actually managed to get hitless ||asc PV first try|| somehow

[pliant mural]

i could have to do || zote 10 times ||

which isnt hard

just tedious

[lost vale]

So I would say its my best boss

[pliant mural]

lmao

[rain sierra]

bro jsut say your built diffrent 😭

stop bullying my clone man

[pliant mural]

i mean

[rain sierra]

im stuck doin path of a thousand tears

[pliant mural]

peak

[rain sierra]

because my dumbahh

[pliant mural]

whats that?

[lost vale]

prob modded ||PoP||

[pliant mural]

oh

[vital ice]

||What is the easiest radiant boss fight you ever did||

[pliant mural]

OH YEA

[rain sierra]

thought it would be a PERFECT idea to go for a modded platforming section that s stupidly hard as soon as i finish base game 😭

[pliant mural]

that sounds fun

|| pop only took me an hour to beat ||

[rain sierra]

|| MMC||

[lost vale]

either ||NKG or PV||

[vital ice]

Who's that?

[robust ridge]

||false knight||

[lost vale]

||mossy||

[rain sierra]

|| massive moss charger||

[robust ridge]

come on there's literally no argument against this

[vital ice]

Oooh ok

[pliant mural]

anyhow im gonna get back to it, thanks for the help guys

[rain sierra]

also here s the mod ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B0w65g4CS0||

i have done 1 room and that is IT for me rn.

[lost vale]

ohh that one

[vital ice]

||My easiest radiant boss fight was CG||

[rain sierra]

yea this one.

my laggy PC barely handles || POP|| on its own

its fun tho would recommened if you are a HK player/insane.

[robust ridge]

||extremely slow, obvious telegraphs, obvious hitboxes, requires zero timing, shortest fight in the game because you literally just cycle him with spells the moment he goes down once||

every other one is at least slightly possible to die to

[lost vale]

I died twice to him in base game cause idk what i was supposed to do first playthrough...

ahh good times

[robust ridge]

Once you get to ||godhome|| though

[lost vale]

well yeah ofc

[rain sierra]

same thing with ||massive moss charger just equip quick slash heavy blow and steady body || and tho

[lost vale]

theres really no need for an entire build for him lol

[rain sierra]

true.

[vital ice]

Yeah just pet him

[rain sierra]

but it makes him more braindead then he IS.

[lost vale]

no... PETS

[rain sierra]

also its called "pets" not punches

[vital ice]

Ok

[rain sierra]

big diffrence fellow gim member

[robust ridge]

I've messed up the timing quite a few times

It takes some effort to learn

[rain sierra]

its like the diffrence between gim and || grimm||

[lost vale]

insert mossy pet emoji cause I dont have nitro

[vital ice]

Fixed it

[rain sierra]

not really-

good.

[robust ridge]

yes it does

if you're a little off rhythm you can get hit

[rain sierra]

id say it takes abt the same amount as the || false knight||

[robust ridge]

compare that to ||false knight||

[lost vale]

oh wait u were talking about ||false knight?||

[vital ice]

He did

[robust ridge]

Took me 5x longer

[lost vale]

I did die to ||mossy|| twice tho

[rain sierra]

srsly i can get him by || FK|| once in a million years compared to our pet moss

[robust ridge]

Which is not much tbf

[robust ridge]

Nah I've seen plenty of people mess up the timings

Most people don't just get it instantly

[rain sierra]

rlly?

[robust ridge]

Yes

[rain sierra]

never messed it up myself.

especially in || radiant ||

[robust ridge]

Good for you

[rain sierra]

id say both bossess are dumb easy.

[robust ridge]

Obviously

[lost vale]

easiest boss by far is ||absrad|| tho, what r u guys talking about?

[robust ridge]

But I'm like infinitely more likely to get hit by ||mossy than fk||

[rain sierra]

he s spittin fax

[rain sierra]

totally normal and fine

but stll

he s spitting total fax.

[robust ridge]

Like legitimately I'm more worried about getting hit by ||mossy|| than a third of the bosses

[lost vale]

I do have to admit ||mossy|| does require a bit of timing at first

but with ||sbody...||

[rain sierra]

go BRRRRRR

[robust ridge]

Nah even then

[rain sierra]

i have less of a trouble getting hit by || radiance || than || hornet 1||

[lost vale]

we need an ||absrad skin thats just mossy||

[robust ridge]

this is my time spent log

so like

[lost vale]

||radiant?||

[robust ridge]

Yep

[rain sierra]

some of these are patterns

[robust ridge]

?

[rain sierra]

but ||Mossy in the same tier as PV is insane but so true||

[robust ridge]

Granted I spent a couple minutes trolling

But

[rain sierra]

oh that makes more sense

[robust ridge]

Still took me like 3 actual tries?

[rain sierra]

also im worried abt ||marmu|| taking as long as ||GPZ||

[robust ridge]

And I had to go for safe strats

[lost vale]

wait what happened with ||flukemarm?||

[robust ridge]

Mouse input delay

Inconsistent

[rain sierra]

makes sense.

i have a trash keyboard.

[lost vale]

controller all the way

[robust ridge]

Did not expect one of the ||flukes|| to survive a hit

Got hit

Then won

[rain sierra]

makes sense.

[lost vale]

tho holding the stick down the entire time during ||PoP was horrible||

[lost vale]

wait what? how

[rain sierra]

i can seewhy ||nkg and PV being on the lower sides their boss fight are alr "get hit and you basically die" alr ||

[lost vale]

true

getting hit makes u panic

[rain sierra]

usually || GPZ or watcher knights who ruin you cuz you usually just tank watcher knights ||

[solid heart]

Very reasonable

[rain sierra]

yea.

[lost vale]

its so satisfying to do ||fury while overcharmed cause one hit is 8dmg on those 2||

[rain sierra]

i can see all of it being correct.

[rain sierra]

fax.

[lost vale]

10hr on ||absrad|| over here...

[rain sierra]

|| ABSRAD || go brr

[lost vale]

idk why I struggled so much, prob sleep deprivation

[rain sierra]

i haven t considered doin ||radhog|| rn.

more focused on mods tbh.

don t feel like repeating bossess

[lost vale]

omg ||pale court is so fun||

[rain sierra]

might do it.

[solid heart]

Wait, how is ||mossie 5 minutes.
That's not supposed to happen on full gear ||

[lost vale]

especially ||mystic ze'mer, such an insane boss fight! radiant on the other hand...||

[rain sierra]

currently ||only isma has been defeated by meh||

[rain sierra]

he was goofing around and kept flopping.

[solid heart]

Just like my ||r04 fr||

[rain sierra]

almost had me scared there-

[solid heart]

That was one of my favorite ||radiants yet||

[rain sierra]

agreed

parry abusing is funni

[lost vale]

they're so well designed, barely can tell its fanmade

[rain sierra]

i mean

[lost vale]

a bit janky on some animations tho

[rain sierra]

as somebody who has barely made fangames

[livid shoal]

Parrying? Like Nine Sols?

[rain sierra]

the only diffrence i see. is the movement-

[lost vale]

the sprites are wonky too

[rain sierra]

the movement sprites are stiff.

otherwise pretty good for a mod-

only good mod anyways tbh-

aside from rando and MP

[lost vale]

the ||dyyra sprite is kinda weird imo||

[rain sierra]

agree so much.

[robust ridge]

I trolled for like 5 min and then failed a few times to do the stand in place strats due to mouse delay

Then I just gave up and did it the safe way

[robust ridge]

Not sure actually

[pliant mural]

nahhhh

what IS this bs

|| every time i make progress on PV he uses a NEW MOVE ||

its downright cheatin man

[robust ridge]

Just checked, ||the first 6 have 35 HP on ascended||

[lost vale]

wait really? interesting

ive forgotten

[lime sinew]

anyone has a tips for ||hornet 2||?

[robust ridge]

I knew they had increased hp but I thought that they were still 1 hit with ||strength||

[lost vale]

I think its only 31

[robust ridge]

||did you get the bench nearby?||

[lime sinew]

yup

[robust ridge]

Yeah but I didn't know the exact hp they had

[robust ridge]

Can you send your items screen and charms screen

[coarse nest]

Do the bosses in ||hog/pantheons scale with nail upgrades?
I'm currently on coiled, thinking of going for final upgrade but I've heard some bosses have more hp||

[lost vale]

||Jump over the dash and needle, walk away from the AoE, and walk or dash away from the dive. Make sure ur not too close to a wall since she'll slide a bit into the wall after the dive. Use a spell to clear out the spikes in the second phase, and dash away if you accidentally hit the parry||

[lost vale]

no, they're set

[somber hill]

barely and thats in overworld

[coarse nest]

Alr time to get ||colo2|| then

[lime sinew]

uhhh, I can’t bc my mom got my ps4 for a time and I can’t send a print of my save rn, but I am using this charms

[lime sinew]

ty

[somber hill]

in all cases ||(apart from some speedrun skips) you'd do better just upgrading it if u can||

[somber hill]

those are quite strong

[lost vale]

yeah those r pretty good, what charms can u name off the top of ur head?

[coarse nest]

That's a good combo, what are your ||spells?||

Are there any charms you know you have?
Asking to avoid spoiling something accidentally that you may not have

[lime sinew]

i don’t remember the names on English

[robust ridge]

I might recommend one change based on what charms you have

But I don't want to spoil you

[lime sinew]

idk rn

[coarse nest]

Tell in your language we'll translate

[somber hill]

you think too highly of us

[robust ridge]

Have you found a charm in ||kingdom's edge||?

[somber hill]

are u sure they've been there alr

what are they asking help on again

[robust ridge]

They're asking about ||hornet 2|| lol

[lost vale]

theyre asking for tips against ||hornet 2 lol||

[somber hill]

ic that works

[lime sinew]

||gritos uivantes, devorador de almas sombrio, escuridão descente||

[lime sinew]

nope

[robust ridge]

It's the smaller spoiler I can give while figuring out if they have that specific charm

Oh ok

[robust ridge]

Honestly just stick with this then

[somber hill]

translationering

[robust ridge]

I think it's ||vs wraiths ddark||

Don't click that btw

[lime sinew]

sure

[robust ridge]

Might be spoilers

[robust ridge]

What part are you struggling with specifically

Like what attacks

[lime sinew]

Uhhh everything

[lime sinew]

wdym

[robust ridge]

Try making small movements

[lime sinew]

sure

[robust ridge]

Use your current charms

[lime sinew]

uhm

[coarse nest]

Yeah it's a good combo, just try to avoid her attacks and get rid of the ||spikes as soon as you can||

[robust ridge]

Like respond to every attack with something calm and simple

Only use 1-2 actions to dodge each attack

[lime sinew]

👍

[robust ridge]

Sneak in hits when you can, don't be too aggressive

[robust ridge]

||When she starts spawning spikes, use your spells to clear them out quickly||

[lime sinew]

not nail?

[robust ridge]

That works too

Try to get some with your nail while they're spawning in

[robust ridge]

||if she starts moving again focus back on her and use your spells to clear any in troublesome places||

||your down spell gives you invincibility on the way down and for 0.4 seconds after landing too||

[lime sinew]

this ik

[robust ridge]

I guessed but I was just making sure

Very useful for getting yourself out of tight spots in the fight

[coarse nest]

That being said, there is another option you can do that's a bit unorthodox, but idk if you have the charms for it

If you're still struggling later send a charms pic and I'll tell if there's no spoilers

I also run ||spells|| mostly for damage but removed all of those for this particular fight

[somber hill]

naniiii

[coarse nest]

It was ||qs, longnail, stalwart shell, steady body, grubsong|| in case anyone's wondering

[somber hill]

ic

somehow just supreme ||damage tanking||

[modern bridge]

How the hell do I get

[robust ridge]

Spoilers

[modern bridge]

I already beat him

[robust ridge]

Also do you mean get him or beat him

[modern bridge]

How do I get to him

[robust ridge]

You have to use spoiler tags in this channel

For other people

[modern bridge]

Oh

[tender jungle]

||can u get to the bridge from the bottom bench?||

[robust ridge]

You beat the ||normal version||?

[modern bridge]

||yes||

[robust ridge]

yes?

[robust ridge]

Did you go get the rest of the ||flames||

After doing that

[modern bridge]

No 🥀

[tender jungle]

||so i dont need to pass the village to get there?||

[robust ridge]

Gotta go do that first

[modern bridge]

Ok

[robust ridge]

Yeah

Just use your map

It shows all the paths

[coarse nest]

Put || || around ||nkg||

||

Bars

To spoiler

[robust ridge]

Btw if you type a backlash make the |s it doesn't make it a spoiler

If you want to tell people how to use it

|| see ||

[coarse nest]

Ooo

[modern bridge]

Best charms for /spoiler

[lost vale]

?

[modern bridge]

||pantheon of the sage||

[lost vale]

do u have all charms?

spoil pls

[coarse nest]

Spoiler the charm name

[lost vale]

is the bot broken?

[modern bridge]

?tag spoiler aa

[coarse nest]

|| like this ||

?tag spoilers

[modern bridge]

Yes I got all the charms🥀

[coarse nest]

Maybe

[livid shoal]

No

[cobalt cradle]

How to have ||unbreakable strength if I banned the grimm troupe||

[modern bridge]

Yo Luz owl house

[livid shoal]

Can't

[modern bridge]

You cant and you wont

[livid shoal]

That's me

[robust ridge]

||it doesn't break in dreams||

[pliant mural]

WAIT WHAT

I JUST

oh

ok

wow

[modern bridge]

Is all

[robust ridge]

||I'm sure you'll find that quite useful||

[cobalt cradle]

Like ||pantheons||?

[modern bridge]

||do i need all bindings for the secret door in god home||

[robust ridge]

Yep

[neat karma]

no, the bot was removed

[pliant mural]

|| so i just did Pure vessel and i didnt realize it was only 3 phases, i thought it would have a lot of phases like how the infected hk originally had ||

that was WAY easier

than i thought it was gonna be

[lost vale]

oh really? why?

[neat karma]

||he doesnt have phases wdym||

[neat karma]

reasons, we should have another one back soon

[pliant mural]

ok well not technically

[lost vale]

prob means the additional attacks

[pliant mural]

but i mean

yeaaaaa

[neat karma]

theres only one of those so idk where you got 3

[cobalt cradle]

[pliant mural]

no no theres 2

not 3

3 including the first

[robust ridge]

||well there are 2 special dreams which break them to clarify but not within godhome||

[lost vale]

||focus bubbles and void tendrils||

[pliant mural]

|| the black tentacle and the soul focus ability ||

oh

yea

|| tendril not tentacle ||

[neat karma]

oh ||focus gets unlocked right||

[pliant mural]

like || after you stun PV once he adds the focus move, after the 2nd he adds tendrils ||

anyways

i was way too scared

[lost vale]

ye at 66% hp, ||void tendrils is 33%||

[coarse nest]

Any tips for ||colo 2 air battles?||

[neat karma]

no ||they just unlock it the staggers are unrelated to health||

[pliant mural]

|| that was easier than nkg and nkg only took me 2 hours ||

[pliant mural]

yea

anyhow

i know it still gets worse which DOES make me afriad

but

thats a worry for another time

since its 1 am rn

[neat karma]

||tbh once you get the hang of a boss of its level like nkg its going to be way easier||

[robust ridge]

||you have all spells and nail arts right||

[pliant mural]

yea absolutely

[coarse nest]

Yeah

[robust ridge]

||shade souls and great/dash slash one shot everything||

[pliant mural]

god i love hk

[coarse nest]

👍
I need to get better at ||narts, might drop grubsong for nmg or something||

[robust ridge]

I would recommend that

If you're using ||strength|| I'd say take it off for ||twister + nmg||

[robust ridge]

Just switch out ||grubsong for nmg||

[lost vale]

omg r u ok with the spoiler bars?

[robust ridge]

mobile

💀

[lost vale]

rip

[tender jungle]

||am I supposed to be at the city of tears?||

||came from Fungral waste||

[neat karma]

if you can step inside and theres nothing outright blocking progression then yea

[short kettle]

If you can access it without bending over your back, chances are you are supposed to find it.

[somber hill]

There isn’t rly a ‘supposed to be’ for metroidvanias

[neat karma]

though i assume youre stuck at a very specifici spot

[neat karma]

this is untrue

[somber hill]

Yea that spot

[somber hill]

Rly?

[neat karma]

it is for this metroidvania, but not for all others

[somber hill]

Ic mb

For hollow knight

[neat karma]

yeah it happens to be the exception, most metroidvanias arent as absurdly open as this one, majority are somewhat linear

[tender jungle]

||I entered from the bridge||

[somber hill]

Yea u confirmed what we thought

[short kettle]

Yes, you are supposed to be there.

[somber hill]

‘Can’

[tender jungle]

And currently im in desperate need of a map

[somber hill]

Are you ‘stuck’?

[tender jungle]

Exactly

[somber hill]

Or ‘trapped’?

[tender jungle]

Stuck

[somber hill]

Maybe have a look into the sky

[brisk oxide]

Hi guys

[cobalt cradle]

What the hell is in there?

[somber hill]

In some big room

[tender jungle]

Literally?

[somber hill]

Not that literally

[lost vale]

||final boss||

[somber hill]

Just have a look around there

[cobalt cradle]

||pure vessel|| ?

[tender jungle]

||I have found the blacksmith||

[somber hill]

Especially rooms with an ||elevator||

[lost vale]

next one

[cobalt cradle]

||absolute radiance||?

[lost vale]

ye

[somber hill]

What exactly are u struggling on? Also, pls spoiler tag your message so people who come for help don’t get spoiled if they haven’t been up to what u have yet

[lost vale]

spoiler tag that pls

[somber hill]

Try the room before that

[brisk oxide]

How?

I dont know

[somber hill]

?tag spoilers

[lost vale]

|| bars both sides

[somber hill]

?tag spoilers

[lost vale]

apparently the bots gone

[brisk oxide]

Thx

[somber hill]

Nooooooooo

[tender jungle]

||fountain?||

[somber hill]

Maybe not that far before it

[livid shoal]

?tag uncspoilers

Hm

[lost vale]

far left

[livid shoal]

Sad

[somber hill]

Ikr

It was so useful

[livid shoal]

...

[somber hill]

Use || on both sides

[brisk oxide]

|test|

[somber hill]

||example|| -> ||example||

[brisk oxide]

||test||

[somber hill]

There u go

[brisk oxide]

|| How do I fight the broken vessel of dreams?||

[somber hill]

Like how to start the fight or help on the actual fight?

[brisk oxide]

Yea

[somber hill]

Wdym yea sry

[lost vale]

you have to beat him and get something to get into their dream (||dream nail||)

[somber hill]

Idk what u mean

[brisk oxide]

I already defeated him, but when I use the ||dream stinger||, it doesn't work

[lost vale]

wdym? can u send a pic?

[livid shoal]

Are you using it on his head

Or no

[brisk oxide]

Dont work

[livid shoal]

Mm

[somber hill]

Did u exit the room

[brisk oxide]

Okay, wait a minute

[somber hill]

U need to reenter

Otherwise I can’t think of anything else

[brisk oxide]

Thx, I am going to try

[lost vale]

it needs to have the little dream circles coming out of it

[brisk oxide]

There is none

[lost vale]

ok, then leave and reenter probably

[brisk oxide]

Okay, I am going to try

[tender jungle]

||so not the fountain @somber hill||

[somber hill]

Nope

Too far

[tender jungle]

||jump off the elevator||

That’s clever

[somber hill]

Yea

[tender jungle]

I’ll find the map guy another time, I wanna take my time with this masterpiece

Agreed Hollowtuber

[somber hill]

:3

[tender jungle]

Aww, the knight is sleeping on the bench

Ive always loved that interaction

[somber hill]

:3

[tender jungle]

So the map dude shouldn’t be too far?

[sleek crest]

starting to go insane ||trying to beat radabsrad||

on like hour 15

still walled by the ||triple beam attack||

i hate this boss

i might give up at this point

[somber hill]

he's ok

[somber hill]

the one where ||she spits out 3 bursts of lasers in a circle?||

[sleek crest]

yes

[tender jungle]

?

[boreal spade]

Do you have a question? If u wanted to fill me in I could help if u needed

[raw pebble]

||the hollowed knight|| was way too easy wth

[boreal spade]

yeah he’s pretty easy

there is a harder boss

[raw pebble]

how do i get it

[boreal spade]

I don’t want to ruin anything

If you really want pointers I’ll tell you

[raw pebble]

do i do ||white palace or pantheon||

[livid shoal]

||White Palace||

[boreal spade]

||white palace is needed pantheon no||

[raw pebble]

i heard something about a ||right charm in a right place for an ending|| but i have no idea what it is

[livid shoal]

||Pantheon has 4 percentage actually||

[boreal spade]

Not for the

Thing

[livid shoal]

Ah

[raw pebble]

or maybe it was just a secret

im not sure

[boreal spade]

yes you do need that

The thing you heard about

What is your ||dream essence||

[raw pebble]

2429

[boreal spade]

Oh so you have ||awakened||

[raw pebble]

yes

[boreal spade]

Go ahead and do ||white palace||

Have you fully explored the map?

[raw pebble]

will i miss out on any other endings

[raw pebble]

im pretty sure

[boreal spade]

Every ending is obtainable

[raw pebble]

im 109%

[boreal spade]

But ||white palace|| is needed

For a lot

Because of the item you recieve

[boreal spade]

Did you defeat ||traitor lord||

[raw pebble]

also another question

[raw pebble]

yes

i saw the ||white lady||

[boreal spade]

So you got the half?

Of that mask

[raw pebble]

yes

do i need the other for ||salubras blessing||

[boreal spade]

I’m not sure abt that one

Probably becasue it’s a ||charm||

[livid shoal]

||Salubra's Curse||

[boreal spade]

Okay do ||white palace|| for the other half

[boreal spade]

Bro I wish I never got it

I’m tired of

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHH

[raw pebble]

wait what is it

what would i be missing for it

[boreal spade]

Yeah you need other half

[raw pebble]

all the slots are taken up but maybe its cuz i got the dlc charm

[south cobalt]

Hello

[boreal spade]

Max dw about anything else

Go ahead and do ||white palace||

[raw pebble]

okie dokie

[boreal spade]

I’m gonna go to bed soon so if you continue playing you’ll probably have to ask for someone else to help

Gl!

[raw pebble]

thanks man