hk-help

[rotund oriole]

it was cap

[jade sedge]

Please spoiler tag your messages

Same for you, please add spoiler tags to your messages or delete them

Its the channel rules

Are you going to edit or delete your messages or not?

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[snow vigil]

How awesome

Its os simple to just spoiler tag sob

[undone copper]

Spoiler tag your stuff

[wise tiger]

can someone help me

i was messing around in 1.0.0.6 and now my jump height is like 2 inches

[neat nymph]

mods?

[neat nymph]

are u using any mods?

[wise tiger]

no

[neat nymph]

okay

isnt 2 inches normal jump height?

[wise tiger]

no like he barely goes off the ground

[lavish igloo]

||can anyone help me with traitor lord?||

[neat nymph]

you need ||shade dash him when he attacks you|| so u need the ||sharp shadow|| to deal damage

[ebon copper]

||walk under him when he dashes up, jupm and pogo when he dashes forward||

[lavish igloo]

What about charms?

Any recommendations?

[ebon copper]

please do not recommend ||sharp shadow,|| it builds terrible habits

[wise tiger]

i made this in 2 minutes

[wise tiger]

SHARP SHADOW IS PEAK HOW DARE YOU

[covert moon]

what counts as terrible habits in this game

[ebon copper]

let me not spil you, sen a pic of what you have

[lavish igloo]

K

[wise tiger]

prob mark of pride for begginers

its good but when they take it off

[ebon copper]

using s||hade dash|| expecting dmg is definitely up there

[lavish igloo]

That’s what I got

[wise tiger]

do you have ||descending dark||

[ebon copper]

the problem is that its not good even in terms of playing optimally, its just a net negative, so no reason to get used to it, to only have to get used to not using it later

just a horrid charm overall

[wise tiger]

its not that bad

[lavish igloo]

Yes

[wise tiger]

3 charms is a little bit much

[ebon copper]

your current build is actually decent enough

just use that

[wise tiger]

get full soul, use same build u have rn, spam ||d-dark|| when he uses any attacks

[lavish igloo]

K

And to dodge should I jump or use dash?

[ebon copper]

you can swap ||soul catcher and grubsong for strenght|| if you think you can manage not breaking it

[ebon copper]

jumping is a better habit

[lavish igloo]

Problem is if he jumped with me

[ebon copper]

wait till you see which attack he is doing, when he jumps just walk under

[wise tiger]

||desending gark||

[lavish igloo]

K I’ll try that

[ebon copper]

if you accidentaly jump when he jumps, you can still use ||dash|| to save yourself

and ye as alassa is saying ||ddark|| is really good, use it whenever

[wise tiger]

my proofd

[lavish igloo]

Wish me luck

[wise tiger]

gl

[tall slate]

You got this

[lavish igloo]

I died -_-

[wise tiger]

dawg

[tall slate]

Sad

[lavish igloo]

I didn’t last 2 min

[wise tiger]

did you use ||descending dark||

[lavish igloo]

Yeah

But I got too aggressive

Round 2

Beginn

[drowsy yarrow]

||I had to unlearn dashing through pure vessel when learning to beat him radiant||

Didn't use ||sharp shadow, but the variance on the delay between attacks will sometimes make his next attack pop out before the shade dash has refreshed||

[thorny wave]

guys , can anyone give me good charm loadouts for ||nightmare king grimm? || ||(grimm child included)||

[drowsy yarrow]

It's mostly useful for bosses that you cannot otherwise ||dash through like Failed Champ||

[ebon copper]

spoiler this starting from nightmare

[thorny wave]

?

oh ok

[ebon copper]

👍

[thorny wave]

well you got good charm loadouts for it tho?

[ebon copper]

depending on how many ||notches|| you have, and what charms

[thorny wave]

||got all charms ASIDE from the charm you get after the ritual (i think thats how you get it) , and i got all notches||

[ebon copper]

than use ||strenght, shaman stone, and quick slash||

[thorny wave]

oki

[ebon copper]

if you feel like you arent getting enough value from ||quick slash||, you can alternatively use: ||grubsong, mark of pride, nailmasters glory, spell twister||

[shell hornet]

How to perform the strat on ||abs rad where you pogo and land two hits||? Does it require ||Sbody||?

[ebon copper]

doesnt require, but is easier that way

[tidal ocean]

I want to do path of pain on steel soul, seems fun

[ebon copper]

also, if you only wish to land 2 hits, it shouldnt be too bad

[sleek crest]

how much health does ||markoth have on radiant/ascended||

[shell hornet]

I meant 1 pogo into two hits

Can you do more?

[fallen mantle]

950

[sleek crest]

disgusting

[ebon copper]

its called ||facedance,|| and the idea is that if you do it well enough, you never really have to touch the ground other than for dodging

[shell hornet]

Oh I see, thanks

As for the execution of the ||facedance||, it is ||one pogo -> one hit forward -> one hit backward and the cycle repeats||, right?

[ebon copper]

||im personally pretty bad at facedance, so cant give very good advice on how you should master it, but in general, you just rotate to hit in different directions fast enough to do nail animation cancels, while pogoing once every 3 or 4 hits to stay in th same height||

the tas does full circles, so it also hits upwards

its the same for dmg tho, so the 3 hit cycles and the 4 hit cycles dont make much difference to my knowledge

[shell hornet]

Alright thanks, I'll give it a try with ||Sbody ||first and see how it goes

[ebon copper]

good luck

[shell hornet]

Thanks

[ebon copper]

btw, its very much not needed for vanilla content unless you are trying to speedrun on very high lvls

[shell hornet]

I've beaten ||abs rad on radiant|| already but I can't even ||facedance ||😭

Tbh I just find it cool so I want to do it too lol

[ebon copper]

i mean, its completly unrelated honestly

like it really inst needed

[shell hornet]

God I can't spell today

[shell hornet]

I guess so, but it makes things faster

[ebon copper]

well, have fun learning it i suppose

[shell hornet]

Thanks

[vivid fog]

@wise tiger no memes in this channel pls

even tho i'm late

[dusky sleet]

how to get the grub beneath Kingdom's Edge next to The Hive?

[scarlet osprey]

||guys if you kill Menderbug do you get him in the hunter’s journal?||

[light needle]

||does this room do or give anything?||

[scarlet osprey]

Cause I didn’t get him in my ||journal||

[wise tiger]

you need ||spore shroom|||||

[wise tiger]

oh ok

[scarlet osprey]

Can someone help me

[fallen mantle]

yes

its not required for either achievement tho

[scarlet osprey]

Ooohh

My bad

But I ||killed|| him and he isn’t in my ||journal ||

[fallen mantle]

you saw his corpse?

[scarlet osprey]

Yes

Does the corpse stay there?

[fallen mantle]

no

[scarlet osprey]

Ok

[fallen mantle]

it should dissapear

[scarlet osprey]

I guess I have to kill him again

What I left for ||hunter’s|| ||mark||?

Sorry for the Portuguese language

Encontrado is found and concluído is concluded

[sharp torrent]

||I would recommend searching the full list of journal entries. They are listed in the same order in the wiki article as in your journal, so you only need to find the one that's missing.

Make sure to ignore any entries that say "Not required for Hunter's Mark."

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Hunter's_Journal||

[unborn lagoon]

not in the game, but related:
|| I am drawing a little picture of the Broken vessel rn, and i am looking for one of those podiums in godhome to use as reference. does anyone know where i could find one of those, like more illuminated or something so i can see the details better? ||
(Spoilers for midgame and DLCs)

[scarlet osprey]

Thx

[sharp torrent]

there is a full collection of sprites in the #art-discussion pins

[unborn lagoon]

oh i didnt know that. thank youuu

[sharp torrent]

I can't guarantee that the entire object will be in one piece, but it's the best lead I have for you

[late furnace]

||so i am at 109% and i have got all of the nail upgrades, spell upgrades all of the mask and fragment shards , all of the charms I have beaten all of the bosses in the base game except nkg because I have vanished the troupe before I do so and have beaten colo 1 and 2 and the first 2 pantheons||

[late furnace]

So what's left for me ||to 112%?||

[sharp torrent]

||colo 3 and p3-4||

[late furnace]

||colo 3 gives percentage????||

[sharp torrent]

yes

[scarlet osprey]

||It was charged lumafly||

[late furnace]

Oh cmon that's bullshi

İt's hard af

[sharp torrent]

it sure is
want any general tips?

[late furnace]

Sure anything would be helpful

[hollow bramble]

Kill everything asap so u wanna one shot them with stuff like || nail arts and spells. Also if u need to heal u can keep 1 enemy alive which makes it easy to dodge and heal up||

[late furnace]

Thx for the tips

[rapid yacht]

binding attack to like l or r in addition to default can help so you can ||charge nail art|| easier during ||no floor|| part

[misty night]

Guys I just killed ||Monoma the teacher|| what should I do next? I can show ya'll my inventory

[simple island]

For me your thumb should have one job, and that is jumping

[alpine void]

Guys im thinking about buying this game. Is it worth it?

[misty night]

Of course

[simple island]

You can share a screenshot of your map/inventory if you want
But after getting a ||dreamer, you may to get another or go to black egg if you’ve gotten them all||

[simple island]

The hollow knight discord is gonna tell you to buy it
It’s the only game I’ve ever played which I left thinking "ok, that was the best game I’ve ever played"

[misty night]

I've got the two first ones ||the one in darkness is my last one, but Im thinking on upgrading my nail to pure (I need one more upgrade) and getting better charms||

[simple island]

It is important that you explore in your own and don’t use guides and stuff if you play it

[misty night]

Yh that's a good expirience

[simple island]

You shouldn’t really think about what you should do, but probably more what you can do

So get what you can and see where that gets you

[misty night]

Alr, ty

[polar python]

hey guys is there a way to have unclaimed mask shards to appear on the map ||similar to the grub thing|| im missing just 1 and i dont want to look for everything

[shell hornet]

I'm quite sure there's no way to see the location of the ||fragments of mask on the map||

[polar python]

bruh ok thanks

[coarse nest]

Honestly just check the wiki if it's getting too much to search everywhere, ||sometimes things are a reward for a boss or a quest and so looking around and doing stuff doesn't really help unless you happen to stumble into that particular thing||

[sleek crest]

starting to think beating ||radiant markoth|| is beyond my physical abilities

[brittle socket]

||are you using grubberfly elegy? Its actually really helpful||

[simple island]

Ehh I’m not sure

[frosty ocean]

I was gonna go crazy when I thought he said ||radiance-||

[sleek crest]

i've tried it, can't survive phase 2 long enough to kill

[simple island]

What I do is full ||nail arts on phase one
And full shade soul on phase two||

[sacred wren]

...since we have ||Rad Markoth|| people here, someone please give me tips for ||doing it with an Old Nail||

||Elegy does like 2 damage; not worth it||

[simple island]

Using ||elegy means you get basically no soul, which means that phase two|| is annoying

[brittle socket]

||shrieks are way better for this||

[simple island]

You can use charms ?
If so, ||Kingsoul is literally your best bet
So get on starting a new save||

[sacred wren]

;-;

I was honestly considering save editing just for that

[simple island]

||Shriek|| is too dangerous

[simple island]

Fair

[sacred wren]

But that's also ||my main save so I wanna keep it 'pure'||

[simple island]

The main thing with ||radkoth, at least for me, is using nail arts|| and being super patient and careful
You have more complex methods that like, skip phase two entirely
But those are in the realm of ||r5|| players

||https://youtu.be/dCrG6dQj-yA?si=x4qgH8cMzhv1gkwI||

[sacred wren]

Hai I labbed out stuff for that approach

Lemme see if I can find the sheet

Unfortunately that relies on ||every single Shade Soul double-hitting||

So I'd need to ||make up for any failures in double-hits by using a quadruple-hit Abyss Shriek||

Which is... hard

I've tried but I can't get ||2xSS consistently||

[solid heart]

What is this

[solid heart]

Also all you have to do is make sure ||he isn't flying straight towards you or right in front of a wall||

Then it is free

[sacred wren]

Ye but the issue is I need to do that 10x in a row

[solid heart]

||great slash does not do 12 damage what||

[sacred wren]

||See above; I'm doing this all on my main save which has Old Nail||

||Average HK player masochism||

[solid heart]

Ah, ||0nHoG|| alr

[sacred wren]

||Regular hit does 5, Elegy does 2, Strength does 7, Nail Arts do 12||

[solid heart]

Then you should probably bring ||twister also||

Oh wait you have it, nvm

[sacred wren]

Ye my usual build is ||full spells (Shaman, Twister, Eater, Catcher) with Nailmaster, Wayward, and Swarm||

[solid heart]

Are you really wasting 2 notches

[sacred wren]

What do you mean

[solid heart]

Just bring like, idk ||Longnail||

[sacred wren]

||Twister is the best||

[solid heart]

It could be useful to sneak free soul

[sacred wren]

Hmm yes but like

[solid heart]

||wayward and swarm||

[sacred wren]

The thresholds are very tight

[sacred wren]

||Swarm was a free pick||

||Wayward is objectively the strongest charm in the game though||

The other issue is ||I don't have soul gen for Radkoth||

I ended up doing ||Collector by using Grubweaver||

[solid heart]

Changing one ||great slash for 2 nails loses you 2 damage for an extra 22 soul, which is like 91% of a shade soul and grants you more leeway||

With the reserve that may not be enough yet with the ||final remainder||

So you could just do that twice

[sacred wren]

Hmm that sounds doable, actually

[solid heart]

||Longnail will just make it easier||

[sacred wren]

||If I do two hits at 474 health it ends up at 462||

[solid heart]

You can easily abuse ||shieldspin||

[sacred wren]

||But my Wayward....||

[sacred wren]

||I suck at pogoing 😅 ||

[solid heart]

No pogo

[sacred wren]

Oh just casual ||phase 1 dash in, smacc, dash out||?

[thick wing]

wait guys does ||PoP ||close up after|| the first clear||?

[light needle]

nothing happens even when i ||strike him white the dreams nail||

[brave holly]

try getting more ||essence||

[solid heart]

Kinda like this ||https://youtu.be/nlTrs284LT0?t=25m56s||

[solid heart]

Yes

[solid heart]

Yeah

[thick wing]

so i gotta make another save

[solid heart]

Yes

Or install qol

[wet kraken]

||tips for flower quest||

[thick wing]

i'm on switch

[wet kraken]

Same here

[solid heart]

You could probably use the save editor

[sacred wren]

Have you ||seen anything orange in Crossroads yet?||

[wet kraken]

Like, route or anything

[wet kraken]

||yeah, crossroads are infected||

[sacred wren]

Ouch

[brittle socket]

||theres a really helpful video by horizonshield||

[wet kraken]

||im at 107%, so all i have left is p4, Colo 3, nkg, flower quest, then smth that i dont know/remember||

[solid heart]

I like this route

[wet kraken]

||I’ve tried doing that one, but I keep getting hit in fog canyon||

||and the flying mantises get me when I go through the top entrance to gardens||

[sacred wren]

Wait what's hitting you in ||Fog Canyon?||

[brittle socket]

||for me it was easier to go through city of tears and then the fungal wastes entrance||

[sacred wren]

||Jellies or Lumaflies?||

[wet kraken]

||lumaflys and the little dudes||

[brittle socket]

Did you reply to the wrong text

[sacred wren]

Probably just take it slow; there's no rush

[wet kraken]

Yeah

[brittle socket]

||fungal wastes is really easy to go through cuz most of the enemies dont chase you||

[sacred wren]

||Which point has flying mantises again||

I don't think there's any ||Petras in the way on that route||

[wet kraken]

I said on the other route I tried

[sacred wren]

Ahhh my bad

[wet kraken]

Thru ||greenpath||

[sacred wren]

Ye probably ||go the Fog Canyon route but slowly and always look down before each step||

||Fog Canyon has zero chasing enemies and lets you skip the annoying parts of QG and Fungal Wastes||

[wet kraken]

I forgot ||looking down|| existed

[sacred wren]

D:

[wet kraken]

This mf hit me

Fuck him permanently

I will kill him every single time

[sacred wren]

Pro tip: ||do NOT run Grimmchild in Fog Canyon||

[wet kraken]

Pro tip: ||don’t ever run grimmchild||

Ever

It’s kinda shit

[thick wing]

it's a sentence

[sacred wren]

...I ||used him on my Radiant Hornet Sentinel run||

[wet kraken]

He only hits ||the explody guys and staggered bosses||

[sacred wren]

||Free damage!||

[thick wing]

you're killing yourself while doing that

[wet kraken]

NNOOOOOOO

I SAT DOWN

[sacred wren]

No worries

Just finish it this attempt!

[sacred wren]

Wait was that towards me?

[thick wing]

towards who uses ||grimmchild||

it's basically speeling out doom

[sacred wren]

||Exhibit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpfHQwMIKY0&list=PL0d2UfaBtWFinWVzW5WRQPuGi0lHObPyj&index=28||

[wet kraken]

Got hit by an enemy I already killed

Fucking bench

[solid heart]

Your ||Grimmchild does 11 damage, that's 2 whole nails||

[sacred wren]

^

[solid heart]

You should look into ||0w|| next

Or ||AB|| if you're on PC

[sacred wren]

I still haven't done a regular P5 run 😅

[solid heart]

Who needs ||P5 when you've got on RHoG||

Also you can do ||r04||

Look at this speedy fight ||https://youtu.be/g--Xfk3dd24?t=24||

[sacred wren]

It is true

We are all masochists

[wet kraken]

Losing my mind

[sacred wren]

Dang I'd forgotten how tiny ||Howling Wraiths|| was

[wet kraken]

Dang

||Can’t the flower take like 3 hits or smth||

😭

[dire tartan]

1

[wet kraken]

Give it 3 health

Please

[dire tartan]

more annoying with 1

[wet kraken]

I know

I’m losing my mind cuz of it

[dire tartan]

would be nice if ||oomas|| had more than one hit of health too

[solid heart]

Yeah, crazy

[sacred wren]

||Dream Nail for the win||

[wet kraken]

LETS GOOOOO

||I finished flower quest||

[dire tartan]

WOAH

NICE

[wet kraken]

Max is ||9 masks, right?||

[sacred wren]

Congratulations!

[dire tartan]

last time I tried it I accidentally dashed into ||the spikes in the final room||

[wet kraken]

I did that my literal first time

[sacred wren]

Yep

[wet kraken]

And it was the ||overhead ones at the very end||

I ||accidentally pressed b. If I didn’t, I woulda saved a whole hour||

I’m so directionally challenged

[wise tiger]

no???

[wet kraken]

||im at 108% and still need compass||

[dire tartan]

the first time I did it I lost to a wandering husk in ||city storerooms, near the journal||

[wise tiger]

@thick wing you can do ||pop|| after ||white palace||

[thick wing]

Huh

I know

That's not what I asked

[hard thunder]

guys help

[dire tartan]

what does b do, I play on pc

[hard thunder]

im not tuff enough 😔

[wet kraken]

Jump

[dire tartan]

oh.

[thick wing]

With

[hard thunder]

with aura 🥶

[thick wing]

Do you actually need help or are you js trolling

[echo goblet]

i dont care about aura 🔥

[wet kraken]

And it was on the ||overhead spikes that to avoid, you can just fucking not jump||

[hard thunder]

i do bro, my AURA IS LOW gng

[solid heart]

It very much does

[echo goblet]

boii he tuff 💯

[hard thunder]

slime i need more AURA!!!!!!!!!!

🥶

[echo goblet]

chilllls

🥶

[thick wing]

If you don't need the help channels please move away

[hard thunder]

i DO diddy ahh blud

[echo goblet]

boii not tuff core

[sacred wren]

Yo @solid heart I'm considering doing ||AbsRad before Markoth||

Since at least I can do ||spellspam||

Any tips for ||P5 Koth||

[dire tartan]

my strategy was to 3d print a cover for the stupid keys sothat I wouldn’t do dumb stuff on accident

[solid heart]

They should be about the same difficulty

[hard thunder]

how get more aura core i need incel core AURA 💔 🙏

[sacred wren]

Was considering ||full soul build with maybe Deep Focus||

[solid heart]

||Are you gonna do P5 with old nail?||

[sacred wren]

So I can safely play

[dire tartan]

which is really high effort for that

[sacred wren]

Ye

[solid heart]

Stop spamming

[thick wing]

<@&283547423706447872>

[wet kraken]

I would, but I kinda need jump for the rest of it

[hard thunder]

gng im not spamming ur not tuff

[thick wing]

We got spammers

[echo goblet]

boi how to get more slime points cuz nichecore didybludcore 🥶

[solid heart]

Alright

[hard thunder]

mods! get em 😈

[thick wing]

Two friends joining a server to troll

[solid heart]

@echo goblet and@hard thunder are just spamming aura stuff rn

[hard thunder]

im not ur friend slime!!!

[thick wing]

How bored do you have to be

[hard thunder]

boiiii ur not tuff

[sacred wren]

Meh but for real

[echo goblet]

boi not the tuff mango lion 🦁 boi the diddyblud cat 🐈

[hard thunder]

chills bro... chills...

[sacred wren]

||P5Koth with Deep Focus, Soul Eater, Twister, Shaman||

[solid heart]

Your best bet is to do that precisely

But ||I don't think deep focus is a good idea at all||

[thick wing]

It's either people who shouldn't have permission to be on here or grown ups with the mind of a 2 year old

It's sad really

[solid heart]

It makes healing harder

[sacred wren]

||Markoth isn't too hard to heal on||

||At least, phase 1||

||And Twister + Shaman should hopefully carry phase 2||

[thick wing]

||phase 2|| might be harder for newer people

[sacred wren]

Oh this is specifically ||an Old Nail 108% run||

[thick wing]

?

[sacred wren]

I'm trying to do everything I can on it ||except P5AB||

[solid heart]

What you can try to do, is stunlock strats

[thick wing]

Oooh

[solid heart]

With ||quick slash and steady body||

[wet kraken]

||in the normal, not godhome markoth, I beat him hitless||

[sacred wren]

||Damagetank and spellspam?||

[sacred wren]

||The one with a floor, right?||

[wet kraken]

||now I’m struggling to do him at all||

[solid heart]

You'll have to do some calculations to find the perfect health thresholds, and leave him just a bit of hp above phase transition

[wet kraken]

Yeah

[sacred wren]

That's still pretty cool

[wet kraken]

||ascended is 50000 times harder||

[solid heart]

Since he has ||650 hp on attuned|| you can easily spam ||shade souls with twister||

[sacred wren]

Ye

Also for good measure I ||let Zote die on this save||

[solid heart]

Using the stunlock and ||quickslash+steady body you can get a full soul meter easily||

[sacred wren]

So I go into ||Koth straight from Tyrant, who leaves me with full health and most of my soul||

I've also done ||P1-3 binds, so 4 lifeblood masks at the moment||

[solid heart]

Kinda like this ||https://youtu.be/x_G7SWt1H3g?t=27m40s||

[solid heart]

Wdym?

[sacred wren]

The order is ||spring, Tyrant, Koth, free reset, NKG||, right?

[sacred wren]

So basically ||refill soul then spellspam, right?||

[solid heart]

Yep

[solid heart]

Yes

[sacred wren]

Hmm

||Was honestly considering overcharming for that bit but I'm not consistent enough with NKG||

||Took me quite a few attempts for Radiant with Old Nail||

||Shaman, Eater, Twister, Longnail|| should work, I think

[solid heart]

Probably

Too bad you can't install ||godseeker+||

[sacred wren]

For ||Kingsoul||?

[fair elm]

is anyone familiar with this glitch where the boss gets attacked despite not using the nail? if so, how can i stop it from happening?

[solid heart]

No, for segmented ||P5||

[sacred wren]

Ah

[solid heart]

It is an amazing practice tool

[sacred wren]

Probably would be, ye

I'll probably use it once I ||finish P5 and Radiant Koth/AR||

[dire tartan]

needs to have a spoiler up there

[solid heart]

||Ultimatum is glitched and descending dark sometimes stops working and breaks completely||

[sacred wren]

But I want the full vanilla suffering experience for now

[solid heart]

You have to leave the file and enter again

[fair elm]

yeah ive noticed this

its insanely annoying

[solid heart]

Yeah

And a bummer since Ult is one of the best modded bosses imo

[fair elm]

im worried that i'll beat ||any rad|| but then that glitch will happen and makes the run invalid or smth

[solid heart]

You should probably spoiler ||any rad, at least the rad part||

[fair elm]

oh mb

[solid heart]

But dw, it's fixed for that boss

[fair elm]

then why is it still happening for me?

[solid heart]

Maybe you're using a bad version

[fair elm]

possibly

[solid heart]

Join ||the any radiance discord server||

[raven oar]

||i just got pantheon 1 and 2 done, all four bindings each. Do i have to do more bindings to get more in this room?||

[dire tartan]

tips for ||watcher knights in steel soul?||

[raven oar]

||i'm not much of a pro, but when i fight them i find myself using dive a lot, kind of VS. Especially when two are grouped up||

[raven oar]

Nevermind i just figured it out

[sacred wren]

Ye you get ||one mask for every 4 bindings||

But you don't need to ||re-enter the room once you unlock it for the first time||

[dire tartan]

my strategy was to hit them until I could use ||shade soul and run away whenever they roll or jump||

[sacred wren]

Enter the fight with ||DDark|| in your arsenal

Makes things way easier

[dire tartan]

I did and forgot I had ir

[sacred wren]

Whenever in doubt, click ||DDark||

[dire tartan]

then I hit altf4 too late

I already died anditsaved

[raven oar]

I had a slight feeling you couldn't get ||DDark before watchers||

I was wrong

[sacred wren]

You can get ||DDark surprisingly early||

||It carries every one of my speedruns||

[raven oar]

||in peaks right? Or am i tweaking||

[dire tartan]

you can get it in ||peaks after soulmaster||

[raven oar]

||ohhh right||

[sacred wren]

Ye

You get it before ||Dream Nail||

[dire tartan]

||crystal mound||

[wise tiger]

wrong channel

[raven oar]

Why did i spoil this 💔

[sacred wren]

||no idea||

[amber flume]

I have already finished the game once. I'm playing steel soul. But I die of silly mistakes, I'm so bad at the game

[sacred wren]

Don't worry, everyone does

[raven oar]

Noted for ||steel soul|| next time

[sacred wren]

Of course, this assumes you aren't dumb like me

||> tries to double jump + dash across instead of CDash||

[raven oar]

Oh i am very intelligent

[raven oar]

Keep trying, u got this

[dire tartan]

||w||||e|| ||sho||||uld|| ||add|| ||unn||||eccesary|| ||spoilers||

[raven oar]

Right.

Had to click twice to uncover "we"

[dire tartan]

I’m always scared of going to ||soul master|| early on because he seems to have way more health than I wish he did, any tips

[round lynx]

Also after that move where he moves with the orbs, you have enough time to get one or two heals in before he attacks

[sacred wren]

Ye the ||orbs are free||

[short kettle]

Get used to ||soul Tyrant|| on your first playthrough and then ||soul master|| will turn into a ||soul totem|| that teleports

Way too many people jump over the ||orbs in those fights.||

[round lynx]

That works

[round lynx]

The orbs he moves with or the ones he launches?

[short kettle]

Launches. Causing them to circle around.

[round lynx]

I find no problem jumping over them, I'm able to clear him hitless with jumping over them 🤷

The ones he moves with you shouldn't jump with but I still have a bad habit of that😭

[short kettle]

Neither do I, but that doesn't mean it's the best tactic for people who are learning. ||Dashing is a simpler alternative for newcomers. Once you get the hang of the fight, you can do anything and still win.||

[neat karma]

Tags

[round lynx]

Thats fair
I didn't think of that at first cause I learnt the fight by jumping, I do agree with you tho

[round lynx]

forgor mb

[short kettle]

How do you avoid them? I jump with those. Or well, ||soul master's|| at least.

[round lynx]

With ||soul Tyrant|| I had one attempt where I could just walk with him and barely avoid them but I keep forgetting to ever since

||Soul master|| is much easier to do it with

[light needle]

||can i be wasteful with the use of dream gate? i have 1400 dream essence||

i really dont know what that is yet. its my 1st blind playthrough

[nimble holly]

Who ping

[short kettle]

Yes, dont worry about it.

[neat karma]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[neat karma]

@round lynx

[neat karma]

Are you going to ||greamgate one thousand times?||

[light needle]

no 😅

[neat karma]

then it doesnt matter

[robust ridge]

how do i not get hit when ||the watchers backroll||

[desert heart]

how do i get up there?

[robust ridge]

you have to cut down the vine from the other side

way way later in the game

[desert heart]

oh ok

[solid heart]

Why, it's free damage

[round lynx]

I use ranged charms

[solid heart]

||Where are you in the game?||

[round lynx]

||i usually get Mark early game and carry it with me for the rest of the game||

[solid heart]

Oh you mean for replaying the whole game

Cool

Anyways, this is the safe and strong dodge with a jump. ||https://youtu.be/x_G7SWt1H3g?t=26m50s||

[robust ridge]

||which of these radiant bosses should I do now: watchers, oro & mato, sheo, obblobles, zote, or absrad||

they're the only 6 i have left

[solid heart]

||Sheo is free||

||O&M and Watchers are rough||

The rest are brutal

[robust ridge]

yeah true idk why i haven't done him yet

[robust ridge]

I got ||watchers|| almost down I think

||I keep dying by jumping over them and getting backrolled||

[sacred wren]

||Oro/Mato and Sheo are free||

[wet kraken]

Yeah, getting ||backrolled|| is horrible

[sacred wren]

||Oro/Mato I assume phase 1 is trivial; phase 2 make sure they're both on the same side and keep dashing back and forth to make sure they don't jump too close||

||If you need to reset or go between them, get ready to DDark instantly||

||Sheo has really nice telegraphs on everything so probably just practice there||

||Watchers are DDark spam||

||Get Eater / Twister / Shaman and maybe Catcher/Longnail/Pride/Strength/Quick according to your preference||

||Oblobbles need patience, Zote is uhh just tons of practice and good RNG||

[robust ridge]

i've run ||sbody qs strength shaman soul eater|| for basically every fight

[sacred wren]

Wait you're done with ||Markoth but not Oro?||

[robust ridge]

idk he wasn't that hard

took me like 15 min

[sacred wren]

Dang

Maybe sub ||Steady|| for ||Twister||

[robust ridge]

actually maybe more like 20-25

[sacred wren]

Or ||Pride||

[robust ridge]

still like top 3 hardest i've done so far

[robust ridge]

it's overkill with ||eater||

i never run out

[sacred wren]

That's the issue

||Spam more!||

[robust ridge]

im already spamming every time they do a combo attack

I just use the normal ||speedrun cycle|| and ||shade soul multihits||

[sacred wren]

||Re: Oro/Mato?||

Or ||Watchers||

[robust ridge]

like any time i'm in remote danger

i'm exclusively dying to ||backrolls||

oh ||watchers||

[sacred wren]

Ah

||Normally you shouldn't be in position to be hit by a backroll||

Are you ||dashing through them to dodge certain attacks?||

[robust ridge]

||jump dash||

i do it how speedrunners fight them

[sacred wren]

Which scenarios

||Dash through into Abyss Shriek?||

[robust ridge]

no like any%

not ||pantheon|| runners

maybe that's the issue

[sacred wren]

Ah

Ye don't go for that

[robust ridge]

but i am also practicing for the any% fight

[sacred wren]

That's meant to be good DPS and not necessarily no-damage

[robust ridge]

yeah ik

too ingrained

i'm not really worried about ||watchers|| tho

moreso the other ones

like i know i can get them with a few more tries

[sacred wren]

||Oblobbles are just the waiting game||

[solid heart]

Ah yeah, don't do Speedrun strats

[sacred wren]

||Free if you have Kingsoul, otherwise just use Dash Slash to get soul||

[solid heart]

You need to have the reaction time to avoid ||backrolls||

[robust ridge]

my strat for them normally is kinda weird

i trap them in a corner using ||cyclone|| to push them back when they get close

and spam ||shade souls|| from the other side

[sacred wren]

<@&283547423706447872>

[robust ridge]

aw man i snailed

[solid heart]

You can see how I do ||watchers here https://youtu.be/x_G7SWt1H3g?t=16m40s||

[sacred wren]

||Cyclone is unusual but I haven't really experimented much||

Are you stuck on ||phase 1 or 2?||

[solid heart]

Unlike most of my ||R5|| starts, I actually suggest this to anyone

[sacred wren]

As in, can you ||do phase 1 consistently? Or are you trying the counting and doublekill strat||

[robust ridge]

i haven't actually tried them lol

that's my normal strat

[sacred wren]

Ah give them a try then

[solid heart]

||cyclone|| is really good for ||obblobles||

I was doing that for r04

[sacred wren]

Huh dang

[robust ridge]

would you recommend ||eater over mop|| just for ||watchers specifically||?

[sacred wren]

I just went ||walk walk upslash dash||

[solid heart]

I got tired tho because it's frickin r04

[solid heart]

Yes, ||MoP vs eater really is boss dependant. But watchers you can do without the bonus soul generation||

[sacred wren]

Personally ||both is good!||

[sleek crest]

think i have to throw in the towel here

[robust ridge]

no notches

[solid heart]

It'd actually suggest ||dreamwielder|| if soul is an issue for them

[sacred wren]

Dang what else do you have?

[ebon copper]

you got this dude

[solid heart]

||watchers is super weak against it||

[ebon copper]

trsut in the process

[robust ridge]

||strength qs shaman sbody ofc||

[sacred wren]

||Also like, DDark does a ton of damage so you can constantly spam it||

[robust ridge]

yeah i know lol

given my name

[sleek crest]

these last two are 10x harder than literally everyone else

[solid heart]

Oh, you're dw fan lmao

[sacred wren]

||I'm still not very fond of Steady honestly||

[sleek crest]

i just burned like 5 hours and got nowhere

[robust ridge]

i think ||eater|| is better cause they have so much more hp on ||asc+|| tho

[sacred wren]

But also I can't really think of ||too much soul|| as a situation that's happened on anything difficult

[solid heart]

You're not using ||quickslash and you're playing with nail 0
Of course it's not gonna do anything for you lmao||

[sacred wren]

Oh I meant on my Switch save

[solid heart]

Well, it requires the skill of how it works to fully utilize

[ebon copper]

im sure youll get them faster than i did at the time, just keep at it

[sleek crest]

that's just today

[sacred wren]

...I've spent ||5-ish hours already just trying to do Radiant-strat Ascended Markoth||

[ebon copper]

if you need any help with it, i have a written guide here: #hk-help message

[sleek crest]

i was trying just ||markoth|| for like 4 yesterday

[solid heart]

I've spent over 90 hours on one challenge

And a lot of the ||radiant|| modded bosses I've done were over 10 each

[ebon copper]

and then there is what you are doing rn

lol

[solid heart]

That's the 90

[ebon copper]

wait, ur only at 90?

[solid heart]

Also like 4 hours ish already for ||r04 HoG||

[ebon copper]

i was sure you were further in

[solid heart]

Yeah

But well, my break set me back like a whole 2 months of skill

[sacred wren]

Wait, 90 on ||R5|| or 90 total

I refuse to believe someone's attempting that with 90h playtime

[solid heart]

90 ||R5|| 💀

[robust ridge]

do you recommend ||your pogo strat for absrad last phase||

[solid heart]

I have like 750 ish of playtime

[sacred wren]

Ah

[sleek crest]

||r5=p5 no hit?||

[ebon copper]

90 total is impossible to get 1 hit ||r5||

[solid heart]

Which both are still insanely low for my ||R5 progress||

[sacred wren]

It's the most consistent strat for Radiant

[solid heart]

Yeah

[ebon copper]

there is also the ||nart start||

[wanton mason]

guys im at ||bench 5 in pantheon 5 i||m so scared of ||markoth|| i died to him 2 times

[ebon copper]

i think achow had a vid for it

lemme try find it

[solid heart]

I don't like it for fullgear

[robust ridge]

||nart strat for absrad sounds cursed||

[solid heart]

You can do pogo or instakill instead

Or the regular hop bait

[robust ridge]

i can prob get ||radabsrad|| pretty easily then

I got to the last phase first try yesterday lol

[sacred wren]

:o

[robust ridge]

meanwhile over 100 attempts on ||marmu||...

[ebon copper]

found it: #hk-help message

[sacred wren]

...oh god screw that one

[robust ridge]

my mouse was broken so it was actually just the equivalent of flipping a coin of die or not 20 times in a row

like it had insane input delay

[ebon copper]

i mean, i wouldnt do it, but in theory it may be easier

[solid heart]

You have to specifically learn it. But it still relies on you not ruining because some bad spawn and it is incredibly slow

[ebon copper]

as it has absolutely 0 variation, you just need to do the exact same movement cycle

[solid heart]

An ||orb|| can spawn in your path and throw you off

For lowgear, it's already slow enough that it'll happen with any strat

[ebon copper]

can it?, i thought it was safe

in that case, it would be useless

[solid heart]

But for full gear, sue can die super quickly with anything

[robust ridge]

does this seem doable in an hour btw

i wanna get sub 5 ||radhog|| for fun and it's been 4 hours

[ebon copper]

the easiest is ||sheo||

[robust ridge]

no i know which ones are easiest and how to approach the harder ones now

[sacred wren]

Am I the only one that found ||Oro/Mato easier than Sheo||

[robust ridge]

just a matter of time

[stoic cedar]

||the dash slash strat for absrad final is 100% consistent, its what i do for ab. the orbs wont be in ur way cuz the way it works is that u wait for the orb to be fully spawned and following u before doing the movement cycle so that u always know where the orb is. and the orb always telegraphs where its spawning so u can quickly move out of the way and start the movement cycle if the telegraph is right on top of u||

[robust ridge]

can you send a vid of the strat?

if you have one

[sacred wren]

^

[ebon copper]

i mean, its impossible to tell you, as idk how many attempts itll take you to do each of them

[robust ridge]

yeah good point

[solid heart]

Hmm, interesting

[robust ridge]

the odds aren't looking great though

considering i suck at ||oro mato|| and ||obblobles||

[ebon copper]

5hrs for ||rhog including ascended|| btw, or not?

[robust ridge]

i have a mod which lets me start with ||radiant||

[ebon copper]

i see

[solid heart]

Still you need to do variation and know how and when to lure the orb. It's not too different from anything else, but considering how much it drags I'd still not recommend it for full gear

[robust ridge]

also it's not like a specific challenge it's just my first time doing ||radhog||

[solid heart]

Again, ||considering you can end the phase in like 10 seconds||

[robust ridge]

wanted to go for the sub 5 for fun

[ebon copper]

dont even know how long itd take my rusty self to do ||rhog||, gl tho

[robust ridge]

(also banned ||nail length|| charms)

not sure why

[wet kraken]

Why

My build is ||a full nail build||

[robust ridge]

idk i just felt like it

i'm trying to taper off the charms

if that makes sense

like get more used to not having charms for specific fights

[wet kraken]

Yeah

[robust ridge]

i've been mostly making myself use the same build for every one

except for ||markoth||

[stoic cedar]

||yea for full gear u probably just wanna go for instakill or smth, but i found dash slash strat to be the one of the most consistent strats for final, even if it does take forever, so it is a consideration for lower gear||

[wet kraken]

I use ||mop, strength, steady body, and quick slash for every boss||

[robust ridge]

getting used to ||no sbody for p5ab|| is gonna be so brutal

i haven't taken it off a single time in this run

after buying it with ||shaman at the blue lake skip||

[ebon copper]

well, ||mop||s kinda like training wheels

[wet kraken]

Yeah

[stoic cedar]

||i mean if u really need to, u can start off with just charm binding instead of ab to get a feel for no sbody||

[wet kraken]

I can play without it whenever, I just suck at using ||spells so I go nail build||

[stoic cedar]

||weathered mask is actually good practice for that||

[robust ridge]

I have ||mask and charm for p5|| left for that

[ebon copper]

i mean, ||ab|| is quite far from both ||eb, and rhog||

[robust ridge]

(and some random ones in earlier ||pantheons||)

[ebon copper]

its like much worse

[robust ridge]

i'm still beginning to work towards it rn

like i've been trying to build the right habits

[stoic cedar]

||yep, eventually u just gotta dive straight into ab. but charmless could be a good cushion to learn the basics i suppose||

[robust ridge]

i used a lot of ||narts without nmg during radhog||

[ebon copper]

you eventually need to stop sucking at ||spells|| when you go for stuff like ||ab||

[robust ridge]

also tried doing a few of the easier ones ||rad ab||

[wet kraken]

||ab||?

[topaz tiger]

what does it change if i activate this ?

[wet kraken]

I should know, but…

[stoic cedar]

hello, please spoiler tag your message as per channel rules.

[ebon copper]

im just saying, that ||ab, is more like a huge challange, while doing weathered mask|| is kinda fun

[ebon copper]

||all bindings||

[topaz tiger]

sorry

[wet kraken]

||less nail damage, less masks, no charms, and a max of 33 soul (1 spell)||

[simple island]

Makes the ||pantheon harder
It’s really optional and not recommend until you’ve beaten the challenge|| first

[wet kraken]

Ohh

[robust ridge]

||nail -> 80% nail damage or cap at 13, whatever's lower
mask -> 4 hp
charms -> no charms
soul -> 33 soul only (enough for 1 spell or heal)||

optional challenges

[topaz tiger]

thanks!

[stoic cedar]

||yea ab radhog sets u up pretty nicely in terms of the skillset needed to beat p5ab. but believe it or not ab radhog is easier than p5ab due to the sheer consistency required for p5ab so u would still need to practice after that||

[robust ridge]

yeah that's what I guessed

[ebon copper]

agreed

[robust ridge]

especially since ||it's hard to recover hp||

[ebon copper]

as someone ho has one, but not the other...

lol

tho ||p5 ab|| has a lot of ||lifeblood||, that makes it more reasonable

[simple island]

You should just say 13
im not sure anyone ||reaches godhome without nail 3||
Or if they do they can’t access anything so it doesn’t really matter

[ebon copper]

||n0|| ppl be like

[stoic cedar]

||well u already have significant progress towards p5ab if u did ab radhog, u probably should be doing segmented practice with godseeker+ mod at this point if u are seriously grinding p5ab||

[worn canopy]

|| just got kingsoul ... I would like to get all the ending in one playthrough ... I know that if I get void heart, I will get locked out of the first ending ... so my plan was to get the ending first, and THEN get void heart and do the other endings ... the thing is, however, that in the same place where the void heart is, there is also an arcane egg I would like to get

so now, can I get the egg and just exit the birthplace? then enter it afterwards after I got the first ending? like, will I get locked out if I exit? ... if yes then I guess the only way would be to get the egg after the first ending ... at the same time, while getting void heart ... ||

[robust ridge]

||wait how do you do the segmented practice, I have the mod but I don't remember seeing it in the readme||

[ebon copper]

im pretty rusty, and havent been doing runs for a while, so im pretty sure, i would basically be back to square 1, will do it sometime tho

[robust ridge]

yep you can just leave after grabbing the ||arcane egg||

[worn canopy]

alright thx

[robust ridge]

why do you need it rn though?

might as well just go beat the game

[ebon copper]

if i need any, i will look for you and grubsenf for advice tho, as i promised 🙏

[worn canopy]

I don't like leaving stuff hanging XD

[robust ridge]

ohhhhhhh yeah i remember reading that now

ig i forgot

[stoic cedar]

alr gl 🙏

[tropic grotto]

I haven't bought Stagways yet

[simple island]

Just go how you did the first time around

Go to the ||hotspring, continue right to where gruz mother was, go up to the tram, and left again to the stag||

[tropic grotto]

Is the aisle closed from the bottom too, or are you suggesting that I walk through a crystal peak that I don't have open?

[simple island]

No
It is closed at the bottom, but there is one more path

[tropic grotto]

I'm not open, I only play an hour of play.

[simple island]

Under ||peaks, in crossroads||

Send map

[ebon copper]

there is a direct path from ||dark room in peaks||

[simple island]

They don’t need to

[ebon copper]

i mean, that1 is easy to explain

but itd be best to see what they can actually do

[simple island]

I mean the other one isn’t that complicated where they to read their map

[stoic cedar]

hello, you forgot to spoiler this

[simple island]

And that as well

Also for your information

?tag screenshot

[languid radish]

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🔹 Windows

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[tropic grotto]

What's the other option? I want to go to the False Knight.

[simple island]

I drew

The path

On the map

Follow

Path

[tropic grotto]

the passage there is closed if you didn't know

[simple island]

No

Follow path

It will work

Use compass charm

[simple island]

Follow path

This is not the path I drew

Yes the part in red is closed

[ebon copper]

go to the right and than up, as Azerod drew

[simple island]

Which is why I did not ask you to go through there

[tropic grotto]

i found it

[tropic grotto]

i just have 2 amulets. a ||shower amulet|| and a ||shaman stone||

[ebon copper]

areyou taking picures of your screen with your phone btw?

.

[ebon copper]

please spoiler ||shaman stone||

[tropic grotto]

well yeah, I'm so comfortable

[tropic grotto]

i don't know how to do that on my phone

[ebon copper]

?tag spoilers

whaa

[languid radish]

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[tropic grotto]

How?

[ebon copper]

slow Dyno

[tropic grotto]

||spoiler?||

[ebon copper]

ye

[tropic grotto]

Okak

Ya ponyal

[ebon copper]

now edit the message with ||shaman stone|| please

thx

[tropic grotto]

and the amulet of souls is already spread?

[robust ridge]

any advice for itemless ||watchers||

i'm routing a multiplayer speedrun and my friends are making me do it...

[ebon copper]

imma be real, i have absolutlely no clue what this is supposed to mean

[shell hornet]

What build should I use for ||double abs rad||? I use ||QS, soul catcher, strength, Sbody, Stalwart shell||, W/L?

[robust ridge]

well i do get ||claw for the chandelier||

[robust ridge]

as in, fighting 2 at once?

[shell hornet]

Yea

[ebon copper]

well, fully itemless aint very fun, do you at least have ||shaman and venegful?||

[tropic grotto]

In my language, the amulet is called "Amulet Soul." I don't know how to speak English.

[robust ridge]

no

[robust ridge]

||soul catcher probably?||

[robust ridge]

(we're skipping ||dash||)

[ebon copper]

thats pretty unreasoable, but if you wish to, ||you should learn to pogo above them before the attacky and try to stay close to them and react immediately when they start rolling||

[robust ridge]

so it's basically just a get good right

[shell hornet]

?

[ebon copper]

i mean, what advice do you want if you wanna skip|| dash, and vengeful spirit, and shaman||

lol

[robust ridge]

yeah true

hey it could be worse

[ebon copper]

it works

[robust ridge]

the optimal optimal route skips ||claw|| too...

[ebon copper]

imo, it seems fine

maybe ||baldur, to be a bit safer on climb instead of stalvart||

but not 100% sure its better or worse

[shell hornet]

The thing is, I get destroyed way before the ||climb|| lol

I've never seen it, are there two rays?

I mean twice more

[ebon copper]

the optimal route gets ||dash, and does most of the run on 1 health to have fury up||

also it does get ||claw||

so idk what you mean

[robust ridge]

multiplayer speedrun

not a normal one

you can just ||pogo|| each other everywhere

[ebon copper]

probably, i never got insterested in ||double absrad||, i did ||immortal light, and 2x speed absrad, but thats about it||

[ebon copper]

ahh

[robust ridge]

(actually ig you need ||dash for monomon||)

[ebon copper]

well, still, ||fury|| should be worth probably

[shell hornet]

Well I'll use it just in case, thanks for the advice

[ebon copper]

i mean, if you play it well enough you shouldnt really need anything, you can just always ||pogo eachotjer, instead of acid skips to probably||

id guess at least

[robust ridge]

i think the ceiling is too low for ||crossroads acid||

[ebon copper]

good luck

[robust ridge]

can't attack fast enough

[shell hornet]

Thanks, I'll need it lmao

[ebon copper]

fair enough ig

[ebon copper]

understandable

[robust ridge]

unfortunately this probably means you have to do an ||ultra cursed qga|| too

[tropic grotto]

Is it possible to kill the ||False Knight in dream|| without any ||abilities and 1 level nail||?

[ebon copper]

i love the ||shadeskip|| 1, it looks so hype

[robust ridge]

yes

[ebon copper]

lemme pull up the vid

[robust ridge]

i did this in my first run

it was not very fun

[tropic grotto]

I just ||killed the usual version,|| I only play for an hour, is anything still possible?

[ebon copper]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pOCJlDIk5g||

[robust ridge]

how have you only played an hour

[ebon copper]

cooolest shi ever

[tropic grotto]

he killed me in 3 seconds

[robust ridge]

what

you've unlocked way more of the map than you should in 1h

[robust ridge]

oh yeah i've seen this one

you should see ||daanolav's itemless crossroads acid||

[tropic grotto]

Well, I only play for an hour, went where I looked, and now I have to ||kill them in my sleep for a nail. ||

[robust ridge]

it's very hard yes

you should probably come back later

[ebon copper]

just checked

peak

tho thats a tas

what i sent is human

[robust ridge]

yeah but still funny

ik

[robust ridge]

do you mean a day?

huh

[tropic grotto]

i have nothing but a ||claw and a jerk ||

[tropic grotto]

well it says 53 minutes in the save

[robust ridge]

what

how did you ||infect crossroads and get dream nail|| in under an hour

that's like practiced speedrun speed

[ebon copper]

maybe thats a bit too much, but not quite a 1st playthru

[robust ridge]

kind of is

like if you take a random 112 player and tell them to do that it'd be hard for them

[worn canopy]

|| can you continue working on reaching 112% completion after you get an ending ... ? or is the percentage now fixed on that save file ? ||

[ebon copper]

you can

[unreal sedge]

So i have just beaten soul master and gotten back into mainland, and i have 4 biomes at my disposal (fog canyon, howling cliffs, underway water and crystal peak) and i dunno which to choose

[tropic grotto]

||I first went to the woods, fought Hornet, went to Repose and took a nail, went down to the City killed Master Soul, went and killed 6 bosses, and killed them boss Dream with mask. then I went left and there I came across Bogomolov, killed 3 bosses, took the claw and now I'm back in Dirtmouth||

[worn canopy]

nice thx

[wild vale]

||i need a simple key to open up the tomb for godhome|| where can i find one?

[ebon copper]

112 is... not that much in all honesty, compared to trying to do actual speedruns

[robust ridge]

you get what i'm saying though right

[ebon copper]

like i wouldnt call doing the achievemnet a practiced speedrun

[ebon copper]

sure

[tropic grotto]

I watched a speedrun of one man who played a game in 24 minutes. I haven't played yet.

[ebon copper]

maybe hes just the GOAT

you never know

[robust ridge]

yeah maybe

[robust ridge]

wait, is this your first playthough or not

[azure ocean]

||behind the collo, open up the back by hitting a wall and killing the pale lurker||

[tropic grotto]

Well, the first game, I wouldn't ask you if I knew.

[robust ridge]

what

i feel like there's some mistranslation going on here

[robust ridge]

how did you get to the ||resting grounds where you found the dream nail||

you'd need to do a very difficult skip to do that with just ||dash||

[tropic grotto]

I was just repeating after the speerunner that the game bug used.

[ebon copper]

its not a bug btw

[thick wing]

hi chat

[robust ridge]

how does one just copy ||blue lake dash skip|| what

is that the ||te|| route???

[thick wing]

what are we doing?

[ebon copper]

i mean, it takes a few tries, but its doable

[tropic grotto]

Enter the location, go to another, teleport back through the wall, let bosses through a bug?

[ebon copper]

without ||claw|| ye

[robust ridge]

I thought you went for ||claw|| after ||dnail|| tho

[ebon copper]

im so lost

[robust ridge]

before ||city||

[ebon copper]

did you do ||main menu storage||?

[tropic grotto]

i can set an example for bug

[tropic grotto]

Yes, I teleported with this.

[ebon copper]

not in any%

[robust ridge]

somehow they executed some variant of the ||te ending speedrun on their first playthrough where in 53 min they did blue lake clawless shade skip, grabbed dnail, did n0 no spells watchers and sactum, did broken vessel, then got claw||

[ebon copper]

i see, well, i cant really say anything to that, tho i have no clue why you want to ruin the game so badly for yourself the 1st time playing it

but oh well

[robust ridge]

yeah but any% doesn't go for ||clawless dnail||

[thick wing]

huh

[robust ridge]

they did main menu storage

[thick wing]

oh makes sense

[ebon copper]

thats what i said, if its ||clawless, than its te||

[thick wing]

i thought vanilla lmao

[robust ridge]

no thta is vanilla

just a bug

[ebon copper]

it is

[thick wing]

i mean

bugless

for vanilla i mean bugless

[robust ridge]

i'd recommend you stop following the guide and just explore around on your own

[ebon copper]

its like a game destroying glitch

[thick wing]

ikik

[robust ridge]

this bug like completely breaks the game

and the route you're taking is totally unintentional

[ebon copper]

imo kinda pointless to use outside of going for speedruns

[robust ridge]

unless you plan to finish the game by just following the guide

[thick wing]

i know how main menu storage works

sadly i can't do it

[ebon copper]

its best to play the game how its intended for your 1st time around

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[ebon copper]

hello Ismoil

[robust ridge]

try playing your game on your own with this walkthrough

like you're missing the entire intended experience with this route

on your first playthrough

honestly i'd advise totally restarting and just playing on your own and exploring

[tropic grotto]

Well, I bought a game, and the terry knows how to play. I just need to collect all the achievements.

[robust ridge]

if you only care about the achivements go ahead I guess...

but you're missing 90% of the fun

[tropic grotto]

if the developers haven't fixed the bug, it means not a bug, but a feature.

[robust ridge]

if not more

[robust ridge]

not how it works

fixing bugs is really hard

plus main menu storage is something you don't encounter accidentally

it's probably not worth team cherry's time

[ebon copper]

i mean, do you play the game for the devs or for yourself, if you have fun without experiencing the lore and gameplay than no reason for me to argue, but i belive the games fun part is a bit more than just getting all the achievements

[tropic grotto]

Well, who knows how.

[ebon copper]

also if you just want all achievements and dont care about the game, just search up "hollow knight save editor" online, insert your savefile, and click the tick for "give all achievements"

[neat karma]

Whats the point of achievements if youre going to cheat them in though, imo just saying

Do whatever you want lmao

[tropic grotto]

it's not that interesting, I paid for the game, heh

[neat karma]

Then refund it lmao

[ebon copper]

if you bought it on steam, you should still be able to refound

[tropic grotto]

What does Lmao mean?

[ebon copper]

its a name

he is the brother of lmfao

[tropic grotto]

What's the name of what?

[robust ridge]

the enjoyment of hollow knight largely comes from exploration

play how you want if you're having fun, but if you keep following this guide you'll be missing the intended experience of this game

[ebon copper]

close cousin to rotfl

[robust ridge]

especially a glitched run like this

[tropic grotto]

yeah there's a speedran for 20 minutes, I just memorized what I was watching and now I'm going through it myself

[tropic grotto]

Well, it's left to get a|| long push and there's a Mist, and then kill the game's main boss. ||

[robust ridge]

what's your native language

I don't think you're understanding what the people here are saying

[tropic grotto]

Kazakh

[robust ridge]

uhh it's probably not going to be easy to find someone who can translate easily so I'm not sure what to do

[tropic grotto]

i understand English, but i can't write it

[robust ridge]

I think you're misinterpreting it right now

either that or it's hard to tell from your writing

[tropic grotto]

Have you ever met a Kazakh? I've only ever been in a discord in all my time.

[robust ridge]

but it seems like you think we're talking about different things than we are

[robust ridge]

yeah that's what I'm saying, I've never run into another native Kazakh speaker on here