hk-help

[sick elm]

yeah

sorry

[worn canopy]

|| you need an upgrade to your cloak called shade cloak - you can find it in ancient basin/abyss ... but that aside, there is no need for that ... you can get it earlier with monarch wings (it's a double jump), also in ancient basin||

[amber flume]

It's in ||ancient basin||. to the left of the ||stagway||

[sick elm]

ill look for it all, thanks

[tribal thicket]

I've been there

I would be in ||hidden station||

not it

[undone jacinth]

||that place IS palace grounds
Unless you're talking about a different thing that is white palace which you go to by dreamnail ing the guy in white armor in palace grounds||

[tribal thicket]

huh? it shows it under the station

[undone jacinth]

Where does it show that

[coarse nest]

You need that one thingy to deal.with that ||kingly seal on the door to the abyss right||

[undone jacinth]

??

[coarse nest]

To get ||shade cloak||

[undone jacinth]

Yes

||kings brand||

[tribal thicket]

I can't see under

how I fight ||zote the mighty? I found him in colloseum, I have beat all 3 colloseum levels before, but just saved him||

[south cave]

||redo the second I think||

[undone jacinth]

||there is no under
That are is palace grounds
Dreamnail the guy in white armor to access a different area||

[undone jacinth]

||the order is
Save him in greenpath
Save him in deepnest
Fight him in coloseum 1
Go to dirtmouth||

[tribal thicket]

I did that parkour area a while back

[undone jacinth]

Yep that's it then
Nothing else there

[tribal thicket]

ah ok, I don't remember saving in ||greenpath|| as it was a looong time ago

maybe I saved in ||deepnest|| so that's it?

[undone jacinth]

||he's in the mouth of a boss named vengeful king that looks like a bug mosquito||

||warrior dream in fungal wastes
Above city entrance||

[livid hinge]

Thx 🙏🏾

[tribal thicket]

I fought him and won ig that means I saved him

[snow root]

how do you get a map of the ||abyss|| if youve been there already

wait nvm i just sat at a bench and it updated

[fringe lark]

||if u beat him in the pantheons then u should be good go to brettas house her basement should be open||

[tribal thicket]

who's she? I haven't beat any pantheons yet

[plucky dome]

It opens way before the ||pantheons||

[fringe lark]

||Do you have the dashmaster charm? it is to the left of where u get it||

[tribal thicket]

I have all the charms in the game and blessing

I do not remember where I got it tho

[fringe lark]

ment colo not pantheons

srry

[tribal thicket]

np

[undone jacinth]

||i think he meant Colosseum
You need to beat Colosseum 1||

[tribal thicket]

I beat all 3

[fringe lark]

||tehn u just need to save bretta to get access to gpz||

[tribal thicket]

how do I do so?

[fringe lark]

||hidden room to the left of where you get dashmaster in fungal wastes||

[undone jacinth]

||can you send your map
The area in fungal wastes around mantis lords arena
I'll mark it||

[tribal thicket]

here

[fringe lark]

||u see the room thats connected to waterways? go there go left theres a secret path||

[tribal thicket]

this?

[fringe lark]

yep

[undone jacinth]

Yeah you got it

[fringe lark]

||i know it looks like theres pillars, but its just the bridge supports||

[tribal thicket]

ohhhh

okay great, must be smallest biome in the game then

[fringe lark]

||its just a subsection of anicnet basin||

[tribal thicket]

she js needed emotional support lolll

talking made it count

didn't even do anything else

[fringe lark]

now go back to dirtmouth

[tribal thicket]

got a ||mask shard||

and also fought the grey version of him

it seems there's another fight?

MORE compliements

[short kettle]

10 fights. Each harder than the last.

[tribal thicket]

10???/

ohhhh my god

and they get harder

yep I am COOKED

[short kettle]

You don't have to do it.

[tribal thicket]

I lost twice to SECOND one

[tribal thicket]

you bet I will...

I js need 1 ||mask shard||

[short kettle]

He doesn't have one.

[fringe lark]

||it just turns the statue golden if you do all ten||

[short kettle]

And if you do 5, ||Bretta snaps out of her delusion and leaves Dirtmouth||

[neat karma]

Wasnt it 4

Anyway the point is you dont get shit, nor lore, nore anything

[short kettle]

Its the first one + 4 flames right?

[neat karma]

No i think it was just 4 times

[tribal thicket]

beat him second time

[short kettle]

Yeah that might be it

[tribal thicket]

where can I get a ||mask shard||

[short kettle]

By using spoiler tags

[tribal thicket]

you get fighting experience

[neat karma]

I guess

[tribal thicket]

so funny

ahem

anyways

[opaque coral]

guys what does this do?

[short kettle]

Depends on what ||shards|| you already have

[short kettle]

Gives you ||lifeblood masks on pantheon benches.||

[tribal thicket]

I have all in the game except 1, where would a rare one be?

[opaque coral]

oooh so its like the more i do the more it will give?

[short kettle]

Yes, the more ||bindings. 8 for 3 masks, 12 for 4 and 16 for 5||

[opaque coral]

wb 20?

[short kettle]

There are 16 and many of them are missable. ||Grubs, Brooding Mawlek, Seer, Stone Sanctuary, Hive and what not||

[short kettle]

Unlocks something unrelated to ||lifeblood.||

[opaque coral]

oh ok

thx

[tribal thicket]

have all these

[short kettle]

||Fungal Core|| one?

[tribal thicket]

maybe not I don't remember

can you please mention more?

[neat karma]

||you can see it after you enter deepnest through mantis village||

If you dont see it then you have it

[tribal thicket]

I do

[humble veldt]

lame ass phase 2

[sinful vortex]

er

[tribal thicket]

||I thought there's a 3rd phase and got ready then js won||

[sinful vortex]

spoioers

spoilers

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[humble veldt]

I was getting to it

[sinful vortex]

guh

[neat karma]

Theres like 5

[sinful vortex]

[humble veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[tribal thicket]

idk which count as them

but it's too easy

[neat karma]

Good for you i guess

[short kettle]

1. She
2. Subjective

[neat karma]

Its just generally not nice to say "it was easy af" to someone struggling

[humble veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-elite-elite-ball-elite-ball-knowledge-ball-knowledge-gif-9337371460101398527

[short kettle]

I mean, so is finding all ||mask shards|| if we're going there

[tribal thicket]

I'm good at combat but not exploration

personally

[humble veldt]

just missing ||the le'mer one||

[tribal thicket]

someone else could be the opposite

[tribal thicket]

she?

huh

how would one know

[short kettle]

Exactly.

[short kettle]

By piecing lore together.

[tribal thicket]

I was talking about how I found him.

[tribal thicket]

suree

ahem

is there multiple versions of ||radiance?||

[short kettle]

One more.

[tribal thicket]

||I fought the one where you dream nail hk with hornet||

[tribal thicket]

maybe that's why it is hard, I haven't tried the other version

[neat karma]

Or just, you know

[short kettle]

||They'd specify if it was the other one, most players don't ever reach that fight||

[neat karma]

Difficulty being subjective

[humble veldt]

NO

[tribal thicket]

where is the second one??

[neat karma]

You also probably should tag allat

[humble veldt]

||godhome||

[tribal thicket]

expected

[humble veldt]

||in pantheon 5||

[tribal thicket]

is it way harder? I have access to that biome but didn't go there much

[humble veldt]

yes

[tribal thicket]

ahem chills down my spine

[short kettle]

Absolutely.

[tribal thicket]

is there a way to easily go to that biome or do I just make a ||dream nail teleport? I would like to keep mine at stag station||

[short kettle]

The quickest way is ||opening the shortcut near the nailsmith hut. Even then its a long journey from city storeroom stag to all the way down.||

[neat karma]

Me when ||kings station||

[tribal thicket]

wish there was a ||stag|| there

[humble veldt]

I can't stand it

[neat karma]

Have you tried coming back with more upgrades

[humble veldt]

me?

[short kettle]

I think it might be roughly the same distance?

[neat karma]

||cdash||

[humble veldt]

I have everything except for ||one mask||

[short kettle]

Go there in the end when you've down everything else. You won't have a reason to leave, its going to take a hefty amount of hours to complete that biome.

[tribal thicket]

will ||zote|| leave only when I beat that 10 times

[humble veldt]

Other than that i got everything

[neat karma]

Damn

What charms are you using then

[humble veldt]

I'm just ass

[short kettle]

With all those enemies?

[humble veldt]

||quickslash, strength, shaman stone, soul catcher||

[neat karma]

Theres literally no ||enemies until the tower, and after that one cdash either goes above the enemies depending on where you do it, or its still just as fast to do it, cancel when theres an enemy and just dash the way through||

Its literally ||3 rooms if we dont count the ones before the tower that can be cdashed, you need to climb up a ton to storeroom||

[short kettle]

I guess

[tribal thicket]

where is ||fungal core|| again?

[neat karma]

Its that ||big vertical area just left of mantis village||

You have it.

[tribal thicket]

yeah I do I just forgot

[neat karma]

Do you have the ||flower one||

Are you hitting it with your nail

[pseudo wing]

yes

[neat karma]

Then idk

Also the image isnt tagged is it

No it wasnt

[pseudo wing]

wait i didnt tagged it? oops

[short kettle]

Did you get all of those in ||crossroads||?

[tribal thicket]

wdym?

ah

I think yes

I checked yesterday

[short kettle]

The one behind the ||goam parkour.||

[pseudo wing]

i cant seem to open the ||geo chest|| (now its tagged)

[tribal thicket]

which?

[short kettle]

||Flower quest.||

[tribal thicket]

I don't know what that is, the ||area when you dream nail a sleeping night?||

[tribal thicket]

I'm afraid I don't know what that is

[neat karma]

The most missable one in the game and its the only one that wasnt mentioned

[short kettle]

Uh, no. But I think you might have it.

[neat karma]

||its on resting grounds catacombs||

[short kettle]

If you don't know what ||flower quest|| is.

[tribal thicket]

how can I check?

[neat karma]

Well its clearly visible since insanely early in the game id doubt you dont have it

[tribal thicket]

is there a charm or an item I would have if I did it?

[neat karma]

Just go here

[short kettle]

Did you deliver a ||delicate flower to somewhere in Queen's Gardens without taking damage? You can't forget that.||

[tribal thicket]

I did not

[neat karma]

See now there was no point in spoiling the fun of what the quest was

[tribal thicket]

oh wait

maybe I did

[short kettle]

That's the one then.

[tribal thicket]

man I can't remember

[short kettle]

[neat karma]

You can check there

[tribal thicket]

I'll

[neat karma]

Or send your map of ||resting||

[tribal thicket]

what does catacombs mean?

[neat karma]

Its on the bottom right section

[tribal thicket]

ok I'll go look there right after checking ||fungal core|| for a ||mask shard||

where should I look here?

[short kettle]

In ||core or grounds?||

[tribal thicket]

first one

[short kettle]

Just go all the way down in that vertical room.

Right where it meets ||deepnest||.

You've been there so unless you actively avoided it, you probably have it.

[tribal thicket]

I'll check

[neat karma]

No need to

I know for a fact you have it

Because you havent even entered the room where the last one is and it shows in your map

[tribal thicket]

yeah

very annoying, all I need is 1 ||mask shard and 1 charm notch||

[maiden dock]

||Does Fury of the Fallen increase spell damage?||

[neat karma]

No

[short kettle]

Well you know where the former is now.

Time for a challenge.

[neat karma]

Look here @tribal thicket

[tribal thicket]

no I don't

I still need 1

[neat karma]

So are you missing 2?

[tribal thicket]

going there right now

[tribal thicket]

nah 1 of each

[neat karma]

So?

Former means the first of two options

[tribal thicket]

||1 mask shard and 1 charm notch||

my bad

[neat karma]

Aka ||the mask shard||

[tribal thicket]

ig

[neat karma]

Do you have any idea what the ||last notch is?||

[tribal thicket]

umm

wdym?

It's just another

[neat karma]

Exactly

[tribal thicket]

out of ||11||

I have 10

[neat karma]

So

[tribal thicket]

I need 1

[neat karma]

Do you know where the ||11th notch is?||

[short kettle]

Let it go atp

[tribal thicket]

no I don't

[tribal thicket]

English isn't my first language, if I'm annoying you just ignore me

[fringe lark]

||u mean grimm notch?||

[short kettle]

It's alright, dw about it. All I meant is that we know for a fact that your last ||mask shard is where Ismoil's trying to get you to reach||.

[tribal thicket]

I already had the ||resting|| one

[short kettle]

The one where they are trying to get you?

'Cause it's pretty impossible to have it without the room appearing on your map.

[tribal thicket]

huh it isn't?

I'll go check again

[short kettle]

You might be confusing it with the ||Seer one.||

[tribal thicket]

must've missed it

[tribal thicket]

no no

||seer|| isn't here anymore, I got all 2400 ||essence||

[short kettle]

There is a ||breakable wall above right where they marked it.||

[neat karma]

What?

[tribal thicket]

ah above? ok

[short kettle]

Right above the chest that you've opened.

[tribal thicket]

I found it!

I have the ||delicate flower||

tho it seems impossible to not take a single heart of damage, I will try

[short kettle]

You have unlimited supply of them from ||the Grey Mourner|| so don't worry.

[tribal thicket]

i can't ride a ||stag||!!!!]

this is gonna be HARD

[short kettle]

||It is a very rare flower she has an unlimited supply of.||

Plan your route.

That will make it easier.

[tribal thicket]

can I ||teleport?||

[short kettle]

Nope.

[tribal thicket]

darn it

I'll try tho it's kinda impossible

[neat karma]

You can use ||trams and elevators ig||

[short kettle]

It's not too hard, just needs some planning.

You can always come ask for tips it you find it too hard to complete

[tribal thicket]

what's the optimal route I should take?

[short kettle]

Just find your own, I'd say.

[tribal thicket]

gotcha

[short kettle]

For an easier time,

||Set up dreamgate right outside Ze'mer's hut. On the route you plan, kill every enemy first. Get the flower, take the route that's now cleared of enemies. If the flower breaks from hazard or whatever, dreamgate back to the Mourner. Don't use benches at all so the enemies won't respawn.||

[tribal thicket]

thanks, noted, now I know how they respawn, benches!

any recommended charms?

||I'll use grubfly||

[short kettle]

Yes. But some weaker ones respawn when you reenter a room.

[tribal thicket]

||ranged attack should be useful as I won't be taking damage anyway||

[simple island]

Personally I use this route, it’s not the fastest, ||but it does make you generally go through less enemies and hazards||

I would recommend it over the more standard path

[tribal thicket]

wait...

I took a ||tram||

was that fine?

[neat karma]

Yes

[simple island]

Charms don’t matter, just take ||shaman stone strength and like mark of pride
No minion charm because dog canion||

[short kettle]

Don't matter much. ||Sprintmaster, dashmaster, mark of pride, strength, dreamwielder.||

Just for a safer time and faster time I guess.

[tribal thicket]

||dog canyon??||

[neat karma]

Yes

[simple island]

Yes.

[tribal thicket]

don't remember such a thing

[cursive niche]

This is the map for those who want to see the secrets they didn't discover.

[neat karma]

@cursive niche please read channel pins

[cursive niche]

But how do I do the spoiler thing?

[neat karma]

The entire point of the channel is to help guide users without spoiling them, dropping the entire map of the game helps nobody

[tribal thicket]

can't I fit ||the compass||?

[neat karma]

Those who it could potentially help are either already asking for help, or just googling since theyve done most of the game

[neat karma]

||if you want to but you should be able to read a map by now, right||

[short kettle]

You can. Charms really don't matter except not picking the actively bad ones.

[cursive niche]

...

[short kettle]

For this quest, I mean.

[tribal thicket]

if I had the last ||charm notch||

I will drop ||dream wielder||

[tribal thicket]

haha I keep forgetting, I haven't got to that level yet lol

[safe sail]

hey guys. i was just wondering, ||if I beat hollow knight and the radiance with hornet, and finish the game, can i still continue on the same save and beat the Pantheon and stuff?||

[coarse nest]

So not exactly a help question, but y'all who've been helping me might get a laugh out of this

Due to my controller remap setup stuff, I had been playing with ||quick cast unmapped, rendering upsmash and downsmash basically useless||

[coarse nest]

Dunno the ans but spoilers tag bro

[safe sail]

mb

[short kettle]

Yes. And use spoiler tags please.

[safe sail]

ty! and sorry ab no spoiler tag this is my first time posting in this channel

[worn canopy]

|| the music in the background and all these mfs telling me to sit ... is this a trap? do I wanna sit here? >_> ||

or should I just ignore and exit?

[sharp forum]

only one way to find out

[worn canopy]

lol

[ebon copper]

worthto note that you cant really make a bad decision in hk

[indigo dust]

||technically yes it is a trap... but for game progession reasons and for explorations sake i recommend sitting||

[coarse nest]

How tf ||do you have so much geo and why are your heart's orange||

[worn canopy]

alright

[worn canopy]

the orange is a charm

in || the hive ||

[acoustic sigil]

I'd recommend not clicking at spoilers not directed at you

[ebon copper]

dont look at spoilered pics..., they may be spoilers

[worn canopy]

|| these bastards ||

|| dudes in a van offering candy type thing ||

[solid heart]

Yes, the game was intended to be played by getting ||every ending and all completion on one file||

[safe sail]

Ok good to know

[vocal hawk]

|| how much hp does NKG have ||

[somber barn]

||what charms should i use for the hollow knight and radiance}||

[lost vale]

||1250||

[gloomy pendant]

||Combat charms obviously, but it depends based on your playstyle. Usually I would recommend Shaman stone, Mark of pride, etc||

[vocal hawk]

Really google said || 1500 ||

[lost vale]

let me guess, you used the ai?

[vocal hawk]

No i checked a reddit page

Then again its also reddit

[lost vale]

the wiki says 1250

[vocal hawk]

Yeah really shoulda checked their huh

[lost vale]

well the reddit thread was from 4 years ago

[vocal hawk]

So basically more or less || 10 AS' should get him ||

[lost vale]

assumming u have ||shaman, yes||

[vocal hawk]

Nice catch, and yeah i do

All i got left now is || him p4 and 5 then true ending (plus journel junk) i legitimately never thought I'd make it this far ||

[ivory fiber]

||hello theres a spot in fog canyon where theres like a sliver of good area between the green thorns and the acid||

||im not sure if im supposed to crystal dash||

[lost vale]

spoil tag all of that pls

[lost vale]

and to answer your question, ||you have to get a certain ability later in the game||

[ivory fiber]

oh so im STILL not even ready

but i have the

[lost vale]

yeah, but you'll definitely know when you can go past that when you get it

[ivory fiber]

||dark dash ||

okay i belive you

[quaint ledge]

guys i ||got the grimmchild, what the hell do i have to do now 😭 ||

[forest nest]

|| when you equip the grimmchild there should be red marks on your map go there ||

[robust ridge]

you technically can but it's not the intended way

it's REALLY hard

[ivory fiber]

dude i tried so many times i cany get it idk why but i ended up getting to the other side anyway

but bro damn i really tried

[robust ridge]

it's probably the most infamous hard skip

[robust ridge]

it looks hard but it's still a lot harder than it looks

[ivory fiber]

i lmow i had to give up twice

[drifting yarrow]

Have you been to the ||sewers||

Do you mind if I pull up a map

Go here while you are there

Also can you spoil ||God home||

||message.||

Sorry

||with two|ending it

[cerulean quartz]

||meow||

[reef sail]

||How do you escape beast den||

Plz help

[lost vale]

have you gone to the very end?

[reef sail]

||Like Herra||

[drifting yarrow]

You have to kill ||hera||

[lost vale]

yes

[reef sail]

I did

[lost vale]

go back the way you came, there should be a split in the path, go the other way. you'll find new things if you're going in the right direction

[drifting yarrow]

There should be a direct passage out

[lost vale]

go to the left

[reef sail]

K

Then

Ok

Thanks

[lost vale]

u got out?

[drifting yarrow]

I'll be the ... For passage of time

[reef sail]

Yup

[lost vale]

I remember my first playthrough, I literally went everywhere BUT the exit lol

Even my second one I was lost for so long

[robust ridge]

is there an easy way to grab ||shaman stone|| without ||dash||?

i can't get the ||fireball skip|| to work

[delicate falcon]

you could ||die there and pogo your shade to get up there||

[robust ridge]

forgot to mention ||i'm in steel soul||

so i'd rather not do one of those

[tranquil oriole]

get ||claw||

[robust ridge]

true

[robust ridge]

only requires ||an even harder fireball skip or explogo||!!!!

[tranquil oriole]

both!

the ||fb skip|| isn’t super forgiving, but at the same time you could just do safe strats for ||upper greenpath and stag|| back immediately

[robust ridge]

wdym safe strats

[bright sorrel]

🦦

[robust ridge]

no i meant the one in ||village|| itself

not the ||stallball to get there||

[tranquil oriole]

||moss knights are three shaman’t fireballs and a nail hit, so you can burst them down if you take your time or prep well||

||vfk|| is similar

nothing is really threatening in that area unless you’re scared of dying to ||h1||

[robust ridge]

||she takes me 22 hours every time 😔 ||

[robust ridge]

oh i'm not scared for ||greenpath|| i just want it for the funnies

[tranquil oriole]

gotta do the funnies to have the funnies

[robust ridge]

it's not possible to set up a that guy skip right?

with one of the ||husks||

[tranquil oriole]

nope

[robust ridge]

if only ||heavy blow|| wasn't also locked by that...

[tranquil oriole]

it’s not

but

i wouldn’t recommend getting it without

[robust ridge]

wait is it sold by ||sly||

i forget where you get it ngl

[tranquil oriole]

yeah after you give him the ||shopkeeper’s key from cpeak||

[robust ridge]

oh

[tranquil oriole]

that would involve getting ||claw|| too!

yippee

[robust ridge]

in my defense i've never bought it before buying out all the shops

[tranquil oriole]

whoever is sending scam messages, get filtered casual 😛

[robust ridge]

does it actually?

[tranquil oriole]

yes!

[robust ridge]

i would've guessed you could get to it with some cursed skips

[tranquil oriole]

hmm

nope

too many consecutive ||shade skips, only one shade||

one wall in particular would really suck

[robust ridge]

||dreamgate 🔥 ||

[tranquil oriole]

[tacit sonnet]

There is a switch up

[robust ridge]

also

probably the wrong place to ask

but if I was gonna do a 1v3 pvp where we each have an hour to gather things to prepare

what should I get

[tacit sonnet]

Like a pvp mod?

[robust ridge]

yeah

my friends thought it wouldn't be fair unless it was 1v3 :(

cause i have like triple their combined hours

[tacit sonnet]

Prob like ||nail upgrate and if you have time shade cloak||

[robust ridge]

||nail upgrade doesn't do anything||

[tacit sonnet]

Getting ||mark of pride|| can be useful too

[robust ridge]

||nail arts and spell upgrades are the only 2 damage things||

[tacit sonnet]

Oh mb

[robust ridge]

charms also work btw

[tacit sonnet]

Try getting ||great slash and dash attack|| then

[robust ridge]

like ||spore shroom and thorns of agony||

[tacit sonnet]

Oh shit

Does your friend have to like

Catch you

If yes ||defender crest|| might be useful here

[robust ridge]

we all start simultaneously, truce for 1 hour and then we go last one standing or whoever gets the most progress after a certain amount of time

but that's only if it takes really really long

the progress rule is there so they can't just all camp one critical place and force a 3v1

[robust ridge]

not sure if that works actually

but also ||the clouds are too small i think||

so yeah only if they have to catch me which they don't

[tacit sonnet]

What about ||glowing womb?||

Does they chase the player

[robust ridge]

don't think ||minions|| work

[tacit sonnet]

Sad

[robust ridge]

i'm mostly asking cause idk how the timing actually works out

for getting things

i'm def gonna go for ||dash slash and cyclone||

maybe even ||nmg||

||thorns while i'm in greenpath maybe||?

[tacit sonnet]

Does ||strenght|| deal more damage?

[robust ridge]

nah

[livid shoal]

||50% iirc||

Ohhhh

[robust ridge]

pvp mod

not normal

yeah

[tacit sonnet]

No its pvp mod

[livid shoal]

Yeah no

[robust ridge]

i need something that can give me a huge advantage though

like ||shade soul shaman maybe||?

getting that in under an hour is gonna be rough though

cause I'm not a speedrunner

[tacit sonnet]

Prob ||dash master|| to outrun them

And if you have time ||nailmaster glory||

[livid shoal]

||Ew Dashmaster in (I presume) a manhunt||

[tacit sonnet]

Since then deal double damage

[robust ridge]

not a manhunt

more like a deathmatch

[tacit sonnet]

||cant dashmaster outrun ppl||

[livid shoal]

Ah

[livid shoal]

It can but that's lame

[robust ridge]

explanation here

[livid shoal]

Ah

[tacit sonnet]

Its a 3v1

[livid shoal]

[robust ridge]

cause my friends have only done a 112 run each

but i've done like pseudo-speedruns

and i know the entire map pretty well

[tacit sonnet]

What about ||dive||

It can hit everyone

[robust ridge]

very powerful but i'm concerned about the huge detour

[livid shoal]

Get ||Spore Shroom for no reason||

[robust ridge]

especially ||ddark|| but there's no nice way to route ||cmound|| in

[robust ridge]

what do you need to grab it again

I forgot if you need ||claw||

[livid shoal]

You do iirc

[robust ridge]

that's rough

especially if I want to grab ||dashmaster|| too

[livid shoal]

||Claw|| isn't too bad

||Dashmaster is actually on the way to claw iirc||

[proper frost]

Its after*

If you route optimally

[keen stream]

yeh, the bench near ||mantis village||, just below that

[livid shoal]

Ew optimal

[keen stream]

you dont even need ||claw|| to get it

[livid shoal]

Yes but optimal

[keen stream]

||dashmaster|| is pretty useful for newbies for the ||mantis lord|| tho

[livid shoal]

Is it?

[keen stream]

especially that one ||dive|| move and they're panicking

[livid shoal]

||That down dash doesn't give I frames though||

[keen stream]

even tho i did ||radhog||, that move would still get me sometimes

[keen stream]

i mean the ||dive move|| of ||mantis lord||

[livid shoal]

Ah

[keen stream]

since there'd be times both of em would do it, it'd be useful in that situation

[proper frost]

This is the most nonsense take ive ever heard

[keen stream]

i specifically said for newbies tho

[livid shoal]

[proper frost]

My point stands.

[livid shoal]

Imagine using a ||movement charm for a boss||

[proper frost]

It can be good

[keen stream]

not everyone has the patience to practice fighting em while barely moving left or right

[proper frost]

||but not for freaking ml which's arena is 2 dashes across||

||and edges arent even usable||

[keen stream]

its not as bad as this tho

[livid shoal]

Ew ||thorns||

[keen stream]

used it for ||absrad||

[livid shoal]

Iirc ||shit charm is better||

[keen stream]

best build

[keen stream]

barely does anything

im not good at ||face dancing|| for it to be useful

[livid shoal]

Aw man

[keen stream]

if i am, fs i alr beat my speedkill pr

[robust ridge]

Way better

It's just low impact

||thorns|| is a literal nerf

[livid shoal]

It takes away invincibility

Oh lord

Also spoilers

[keen stream]

sacrifices i-frames for a small tantrum

[idle pond]

No actually I’m gonna share ||my build to beat every pantheon till P5||

[idle pond]

Mb

[keen stream]

||greed|| is better than ||thorns|| in ||pantheons||

[idle pond]

||my build was: Grimm child, thorns, the honey charm to regain one mask if not hit and another lowkey disgusting charm||

[lost vale]

||hiveblood?? for pantheons?||

[idle pond]

😭

[idle pond]

Ye

[keen stream]

||greed|| is just useless but ||thorns|| is straight up a debuff

[lost vale]

all ||3 charms are bottom tier, maybe not good boi, but still...||

[idle pond]

||then I realized I was masochist af and fixed my build for a neil combat based charm setup||

[idle pond]

||didn’t ever equip the charm that removes the knockback tough||

[lost vale]

at least it gives more money from bosses

[keen stream]

||pantheon|| doesn't give money

[lost vale]

fr ||sbody is the goat of 1 notch charms||

[livid shoal]

It gives 1 dollar actually

[lost vale]

ik, i meant for overworld bosses

[keen stream]

nahh ||compass|| is the goat

[idle pond]

Positive income for me

[lost vale]

it does? wow new trivia fact

[livid shoal]

No it doesn't

I wish

[idle pond]

Ye I always equip it for ||pantheons||

[livid shoal]

Then I'd have another dollar

[keen stream]

i have another absurd build that worked so well on ||absrad||

[livid shoal]

[lost vale]

Im planning on using all ||lifeblood charms and hiveblood for absrad...||

[idle pond]

||I only use spells when necessary especially in P5||

[idle pond]

Dope

[livid shoal]

[idle pond]

||I wanna try any radiance||

[keen stream]

power of friendship

[idle pond]

||but forgot what’s the exact only build that makes you able to beat it||

[livid shoal]

[lost vale]

I mean if ur already swinging so much, ur building up so much ||soul that you can quickcast inbetween swings and it wont be negative at all||

[keen stream]

should've used ||soul catcher and eater|| for more soul

[livid shoal]

Not the little buddy build man

[lost vale]

dont forget ||dreamshield||

[idle pond]

Does anybody know?

[lost vale]

and ||snail to become a little buddy yourself lol||

[keen stream]

best one so far

22 mask

[livid shoal]

[idle pond]

Ah, I’d need one at best

[stoic cedar]

||now just do r5 with this build, getting all the hotspring lifeblood along the way, to get the maximum amount of lifeblood possible in vanilla hk||

[keen stream]

i miss playing hk but my skills degraded so bad i cant even beat ||attuned absard||

[lost vale]

||would all the p5 lifeblood or all the base game lifeblood be more?||

[keen stream]

not the ||r5||

[idle pond]

||I made Grimm child take final hit on AbsRadiance once||

[keen stream]

impossible, you need to hit her wit a nail to trigger the cutscene

[stoic cedar]

||all p5 lifeblood is more. its 35 from p5 but idk the exact number for overworld, ppl have counted it before tho and it turns out that p5 lifeblood is more||

[idle pond]

Not on ||switch||

[keen stream]

fr??

[livid shoal]

Lie

[idle pond]

It’s glitched it friggere cutscene if im not mistaken

[compact widget]

is there a way to open this thing

[livid shoal]

I use a switch

[idle pond]

You fr?

[stoic cedar]

||this is assuming maximum lifeblood of 5 per hotspring||

[idle pond]

Then I remember bad

[lost vale]

hit the lever

[idle pond]

I was pretty sure I did that

Oh wait

[keen stream]

there's literally a lever in there

[compact widget]

................

[idle pond]

||Was Pure Vessel, mb||

[compact widget]

i am

extremely blind

ive been looking all over 😭

ty

[idle pond]

Anyway playing HK on switch ||is actually nice||

[keen stream]

i haven't unlocked all the ||bindings|| in ||p3 and p4|| yet

[livid shoal]

Baaahahahahaaa

[idle pond]

I didn’t struggle that much cause of it

[livid shoal]

Neither did I

[idle pond]

Played it on other consoles too

[livid shoal]

I've played it in MC

[idle pond]

Still I am used to switch now ||sadly||

[lost vale]

I mean u can rebind the buttons to switch format

[idle pond]

Yeah but the controller hold and everything ||plus I have to repair it and you have a good point||

[livid shoal]

I use a pro controller so a different controller is nothing

[lost vale]

I mean most pro controllers r either based on xbox or ps

[idle pond]

Damn flexin

[livid shoal]

Fym

[idle pond]

Just cause ||I’m broke af||

[lost vale]

I use the ps5 pro controller, no mouseclick triggers tho

[idle pond]

||my biggest achievement is 112% in HK ||

[livid shoal]

I have 110 rn

Wait no

[lost vale]

do u know what ur missing?

[livid shoal]

Guess

[lost vale]

||pantheons? 2.4k ess, flower quest mask, or some charm||

[livid shoal]

Me when ||P3 and 4||

[lost vale]

any specific boss ur struggling?

[kind pine]

Hey, im new to speedrunning, I just a small weird problem. for some reason when i hit the pause button on my xbox controller it opens the menu, but it doesn't close it if i hit it again. Anybody had this issue before?

[livid shoal]

All of the above

[keen stream]

thats sad

dyrati has a guide on some hard bosses iirc

[lost vale]

the only thing I can recommend is either practice all the bosses in HoG or see some guides on the bosses

[keen stream]

this

[lost vale]

delete that and spoil tag the image pls

[tawdry crane]

okay hold on a sec

sorry about that i was just copying from the images

anyway, i don't really know what i should do rn (i know how to progress and beat the game, but i moreso mean like. what other things should i do first)

[keen stream]

is the bot still tweakin?

[lost vale]

go for the ||dreamers(the masks on marked on the map)|| there's plenty of stuff you'll get on the way to them

[tawdry crane]

i can still do the ||grimmkin|| stuff i guess but i don't wanna go to the ||ancient basin|| yet

[lost vale]

again, spoil tag pls

[keen stream]

wanna get a cooler ||spell||?

[tawdry crane]

sorry lmao i do not talk here very often

[lost vale]

basically everything in here needs to be tagged

[tawdry crane]

don't wanna go to ||the abyss|| yet

[lost vale]

why not?

[tawdry crane]

i beat the first two ||colosseum trials|| and didn't do the third one cause i don't really need money rn

[keen stream]

did you do ||qg||?

[lost vale]

prob not since she doesnt have the map for it

[tawdry crane]

well i don't wanna ||infect my crossroads|| yet. i just kinda wanna save it for later

[tawdry crane]

don't you need ||shade|| to get in there

[keen stream]

bruh

[lost vale]

||abyss doesnt infect crossroads, only dreamers and another thing does||

[keen stream]

how tf will you progress further if you dont wanna do anything

[lost vale]

only certain areas in it

[tawdry crane]

||to get into abyss you need king's brand and to get that you need monarch wings (i don't want to prog skip)||

[keen stream]

prolly do ||waterways|| cause you dont have the ||swim in the piss|| item

[tawdry crane]

i guess i could do ||royal waterways|| but that sounds meh lmao

what does ||isma's|| unlock?

[lost vale]

I mean theres always ||aspid skip||

[tawdry crane]

i don't wanna progression skip :P

[keen stream]

how about take a rest and not play the game?

based on what you said... you dont want to continue further into the game

[tawdry crane]

i might do ||deepnest|| next honestly. isn't there a ton of stuff in there

[lost vale]

Seriously, not to be rude, but everything you're saying is to not progress further, even though u asked what to do

[tawdry crane]

thank you for the feedback /gen

[keen stream]

not rly, just a few stuff here and there

[tawdry crane]

sometimes this game is a little hard for me cause for some reason it takes a lot of mental energy to play it and make progress n stuff

[keen stream]

||waterways|| is the best place for you to go but you jus dont want to

[tawdry crane]

like im good at combat i think and i know a lot of stuff about the game but playing it and making progress is just difficult for some reason. im pretty much just gonna get over it, but i guess what i really meant is, is there anything i could do right now just to top myself off before i move onto the next big progression areas?

[keen stream]

yeh, the ||waterways|| so you can explore more area

[tawdry crane]

i will go to ||waterways|| then. what stuff does ||isma's tear|| unlock?

[lost vale]

not really... most of the stuff are in the next areas that u refuse to go to

[keen stream]

you can swim in piss

[tawdry crane]

yeah but like

what does that do for me

[lost vale]

it unlocks a few things in future areas, but most importantly u gain access to another very important area

[keen stream]

a whole lot of shit

[tawdry crane]

it gets me into ||queen's gardens||, i remember that

also ||monomon|| iirc

[keen stream]

you dont need it if you're good enough to do ||shade skips|| n stuff

[lost vale]

i mean most casual players wont do any skips of any kind

[tawdry crane]

okay, thank you so much for the feedback (sometimes a kick in the right direction helps lmao)

i will do ||waterways||

[keen stream]

after that the whole map is basically unlocked alr

[tawdry crane]

idk i've watched speedrunners play so i know about the skips and i know you can ||pogo on the aspid to skip to hornet 2|| but im not sure if i can do that with channeled nail

[keen stream]

most part of it

[tawdry crane]

wouldn't it die too early?

[keen stream]

nah

[tawdry crane]

i mean yeah i won't lie this is my first full playthrough of the game so like, i'll do little strats here and there but nothing major

[robust ridge]

you actually only need to do ||one pogo and then you can do the rest with just dash and claw||

[tawdry crane]

oh sick i had no idea

[robust ridge]

||there's weird wall hitboxes you can claw off but it doesn't look like it||

[tawdry crane]

thats cool

[tawdry crane]

also ||dung defender|| is the goat

[keen stream]

jus dont do ||qg cdash skip||

[tawdry crane]

ahem, me when beans. now you may laugh.

[tawdry crane]

how hard is that one

i've seen it before

[keen stream]

its like doing celeste level of parkpur

[robust ridge]

very

it looks hard but it's way harder than it looks

[tawdry crane]

awesome

[robust ridge]

there's one other skip which is equally precise i think

[keen stream]

iirc that one you need to pogo off of the ||fireball|| of your ||shade||

[tawdry crane]

games like this that are pretty atmospherically depressing have a tendency to kinda leech away my energy and will to play the game, even if i'm having a great time

[robust ridge]

no like there's another ||equally precise acid skip||

[tawdry crane]

it sucks :(

[keen stream]

the only other ||acid skip|| i know is the way to that ||jellyfish area||

[robust ridge]

that one is really easy

you can just walk off the platform to set it up

[robust ridge]

||love key||

[keen stream]

idk that one

[lost vale]

it really is, but I felt like its easier than ||blue lake shade skip, I did QGA in a few minutes but I dont like shades||

[keen stream]

ohh yeh, there's this one ||cdash|| skip in ||kingdoms edge||

i think its as hard as the ||qg skip||

[night sinew]

||should I use a survival build for PoP or a spell build just worried about the final room||

[lost vale]

||lmfao, survival. the final room is done in a few ddarks||

tho just ||hiveblood and grubsong is needed, if ur that worried u can equip a few dmg charms||

[night sinew]

||bro im just worried i haven’t fought kingsmould in a while 😭 ||

[lost vale]

seriously, ||ddark gives so much i frames that you almost will never be killed unless u were surprised by them||

[night sinew]

||im bringing ss along with hiveblood and grubsong||

[short kettle]

||Sharp shadow||?

Oh probably ||Shaman Stone||

You're better off using the unlimited soul build if you can.

[lost vale]

||sharp shadow in PoP?? ||

[short kettle]

Yeah that's why I double checked lol

[rain ridge]

where to find ||zote|| in ||city of tears||

[lost vale]

In ||city of tears?|| ohh he's in ||the long bridge section besides the room with a bunch of platforms and the flying beetles||

I dont think it does anything except a few bits of dialogue

[rain ridge]

this long bridge?

[lost vale]

yep

[rain ridge]

oh do i not need to find him there so he appears in ||collosseum of fools||

[lost vale]

can u show me ur entire map? i want to avoid spoiling stuff

[rain ridge]

im done with almost most stuff im just going for achievements and 112% now

[lost vale]

oh yeah ur chilling

[rain ridge]

yes

[lost vale]

||you only need to rescue him in greenpath and deepnest, then he'll show up in colo 1||

[rain ridge]

okay awesome!

[robust ridge]

which variant

i can literally do that one first try every time

but i've never been able to do ||qga||

[lost vale]

I guess I did ||QGA purely by luck, isnt it like several frame perfect inputs?||

[robust ridge]

nah not frame perfect

just precise

[lost vale]

The ||clawless version||

[robust ridge]

ohhhh

that makes more sense

[lost vale]

yeah, the regular one is a lot easier

[robust ridge]

most people mean ||with claw|| if you just say ||blue lake shade skip||

so i was confused

[lost vale]

ohh yeah, ||also dashless, I just booted up a fresh save file and teleported to salubra||

[robust ridge]

that one is absurd

[lost vale]

ofc with ||vspirit||

[robust ridge]

oh

i thought you meant the actual itemless one

[lost vale]

nonono I highly doubt id ever get the true one

[azure ocean]

does anyone have some tips on ||abs rad||?

[crude cliff]

i need help on ||hornet 2||

[kind plinth]

Anything specific?

I would recommend just practice ||and not getting to distracted by the spike balls she puts up and have audio on she ja slots of audio cues||

[crude cliff]

bro i get hit like so fast

i have 7 hearts and im STILL losing before phase 2

[kind plinth]

Oof

[crude cliff]

bro they all sound the same

and i have ||2 nail upgrades and a vessel upgrade||

and im still losing

am i just trash

||everytime shes on the ground she instantly dashes right after so i get hit||

i think im just trash

[kind plinth]

Do you have ||shade cloak?||

[crude cliff]

nope

was plannig to get it

[kind plinth]

No I struggled with her soo many times

|| I would bc it makes dodging a lot easier||

[crude cliff]

uhh

but i need ot beat her to get that

[kind plinth]

No you dont?

Do you

Idk

[crude cliff]

r u sure

[azure ocean]

yes bc to get ||kings brand|| you need to beat her

[kind plinth]

I fought her a while ago I don't remember sorry

[crude cliff]

yea ik

thats what im doing rn

[azure ocean]

and you need to get ||kings brand|| to open the ||abyss||

[crude cliff]

yes

[kind plinth]

Sorry

[crude cliff]

bruh

i guess ill just keep trying

is there any recommended charm loadouts i have 6 notches

[azure ocean]

what charms are you equipping?

lol

what charms do you have

[crude cliff]

||shaman, soul catcher, steady body||

good or bad

[azure ocean]

idk

im not an expert at the game 💀

should be good enough

do you have ||long nail||?

[crude cliff]

yes and the better one

||OMG SHES SPAMMING THE SAME DASH MOVE OVER AND OVER

and if i pogo she hits me beacuse she can aim up

[azure ocean]

wait she can?

[crude cliff]

yes

[azure ocean]

i don't remember her having an up attack

[crude cliff]

i do

[rotund prawn]

Any tips on how to beat ||nailmaster sly||? He's kicking my ass

[azure ocean]

kinda just keep your spacing and only hit when he ||spins around and lands||

does no one have tips for ||abs rad|| :<

[crude cliff]

BRO SHES HACKNING

when i pogo she gets hit but i get hit too

[azure ocean]

wdym

[crude cliff]

when i hit down and im above her

i get hit but she also gets hit

[azure ocean]

mb you just jumped too low?

[crude cliff]

bruh i was cokoing so hard then stupid ball killed me

[crude cliff]

yeah maybe

do spells even help that much

[azure ocean]

yeah

they can get rid of the ||spiked balls|| really quickly

[grim arch]

Yeah you get to deal damage from a safe distance

[grim arch]

||I think howling wraiths would be good for that||

[rotund prawn]

When I fought her I mostly used the nail and kept soul for healing

[hallow hedge]

when she does her surrounding attack thing you heal

[azure ocean]

When i fought her i kinda just spammed ||d-dark|| and it worked

[hallow hedge]

when she boomerangs her needle you heal

[crude cliff]

OMG I HATE THE BALLS

[azure ocean]

and when she ||throws her nail||

[hallow hedge]

you just gotta hit the balls

while you go

[crude cliff]

do i use all nail loadout

[rotund prawn]

That can be risky though, at least in my experience

[crude cliff]

or quick focus

[crude cliff]

im only healing while in nail throw

[hallow hedge]

@crude cliff do it with the surrounding one

[rotund prawn]

That's one of your best bets to heal

[hallow hedge]

when she does it you could heal once

[crude cliff]

do i use only nail looadut

and do i use quick focus

[hallow hedge]

uh

idk tbh

[crude cliff]

bruh

please bruh im desperate

[hallow hedge]

i used like wayward compass during the fight i forgor

[rotund prawn]

Maybe not quick focus but an all nail loadout might help

[crude cliff]

what

[hallow hedge]

grubsong maybe

[crude cliff]

ok ill try

ok

[hallow hedge]

thats like the only charm ir emember 😭

[azure ocean]

i wouldn't recomend ||quick focus|| bc u alr get enough time to heal

[crude cliff]

waiti dont have that

[hallow hedge]

idk

its gonna take a long time to get back to dirtmouth anyway

or idk i forgor how to get grubsong

[crude cliff]

so ||mark of pride?||

[desert condor]

just unlocked her, need tips too 🙏

[hallow hedge]

hello everybody my name is markiplier

[rotund prawn]

Quick slash too

[crude cliff]

and what else

[azure ocean]

relatable 💀

[crude cliff]

i dont have that either omg

i have nothing

am i cooked

[azure ocean]

quick slash can be found near hornet

[hallow hedge]

is quick slash from the merchant guy

[azure ocean]

wait what

[hallow hedge]

i forgor

idk idk idk

[rotund prawn]

It's found in the same area, the place you unlock it though is a bit of a puzzle

[desert condor]

the lack of spoil tags in the chat scare me

[hallow hedge]

[[quick slash]]

oops mybad

[azure ocean]

💀

[crude cliff]

im not bothered at this point

[hallow hedge]

||AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH||

[crude cliff]

ok ill just keep trying

then probably get anger issues and delete the game

[hallow hedge]

yeah uhhhhh

when she does her ball attack you have high chance to heal

like when she spawns them

[crude cliff]

r u sure

they spawn everywhere

[hallow hedge]

i think so

[azure ocean]

bruh it took me 4 days to beat ||horent sentinel|| 💀

[rotund prawn]

The spoiler rules for this server are confusing

[hallow hedge]

its not guaranteed one spawns on you

[desert condor]

are you sure

[crude cliff]

please say your joking

[hallow hedge]

the game took 50fps away from me battling hornet 2

[rotund prawn]

||hornet 1|| probably took longer for me, at least you get dash in the other fight

[crude cliff]

im already playing on 60 fps

[desert condor]

i hope so

[azure ocean]

im not 💀

[coarse nest]

Spoiler

[hallow hedge]

nah im like talking about the terrain

the snow and allat

[crude cliff]

how

[hallow hedge]

it was making me lag

[crude cliff]

i beat hornet 1 in like 3 tries

[azure ocean]

srry

[crude cliff]

but i dont have to use spells right

[hallow hedge]

uhhh

not really

[azure ocean]

idk

[hallow hedge]

i didn't use spells

[rotund prawn]

Not necessarily

[coarse nest]

Ouch
I'm boutta try it today

[crude cliff]

because i literally never use

[hallow hedge]

tbh when i battled hornet 2 i didnt use spells

[rotund prawn]

I wouldn't recommend it since she's pretty fast

Same

[hallow hedge]

i think you could heal twice when she does the nail throw

[desert condor]

as it should be, a fair fight

[azure ocean]

id say only use spells for the ||spiked ball|| attack bc they could destroy them

[azure ocean]

don't think you can, it's risky

[hallow hedge]

WHAT ARE YOU SEIOUSR

[rotund prawn]

I always healed during that or when she was staggered

[azure ocean]

uhh

yeah???

[hallow hedge]

nah i could cause if hornet flys into the air i just dash

but if she doesnt fly up i get ready to jump

[crude cliff]

does ||mark of pride and long nail stack||

[azure ocean]

i never tried it so yeah....

[azure ocean]

yes

[short kettle]

Yes, but generally not worth it.

[crude cliff]

ok im trying that

how

im despserate im gona try everything

[rotund prawn]

Wouldn't really recommend it though, it's a pretty negligible increase

[short kettle]

||5 notches|| for just range?

[hallow hedge]

like if she flys into the air most of the time she attacks

[rotund prawn]

This too

[crude cliff]

ok fine

so what loadout

[hallow hedge]

uhhh

hold up

imma see what loadout i had when i battled her

[crude cliff]

i only have 6 notches

[rotund prawn]

How many notches do you have

[crude cliff]

6

[short kettle]

||Mark of pride|| alone is plenty range extension and even that might be unnecessary.

[crude cliff]

ok

[azure ocean]

id recomend ||shaman, long nail, and smth else||

[rotund prawn]

Probably just quick slash and mark of pride

[azure ocean]

she doesn't have ||quick slash||

[crude cliff]

ok so ||shaman and mark of pride||

[azure ocean]

wait what is the diff between ||long nail and mark of pride||?

[crude cliff]

long nail is 15 percent mark of pride iw 25

[azure ocean]

oh

[short kettle]

Sure, but you can also just come back later with better gear.

[amber flume]

what is the benefit of ||grubberfly's elegy|| charm?

[azure ocean]

uhh

[azure ocean]

better range???

[hallow hedge]

oh

[crude cliff]

ok

[hallow hedge]

@crude cliff

this is what i used for ||hornet 2||

[amber flume]

is it also useful for soul, regen?

[teal oracle]

||the beam is kinda decent ig||