hk-help

[gusty helm]

||go back to Dirtmouth||

[hexed harness]

I won't go into detail

[sinful vortex]

||head to dirtmouth||

[mortal hazel]

no im just kinda lost

[hexed harness]

yeah, this

[short kettle]

||The room below watcher Knights is filled with high paying enemies and is close to a bench. It's mathematically the best farming spot in game.||

[hexed harness]

just go there and see

[gusty helm]

||u find Grimm who gives another quest||

head into ||his tent||

[short kettle]

||Bench closest to watcher Knights arena. Step out the room and clear all enemies in that room. Return to bench, repeat.||

[undone jacinth]

No need to tell him that

[short kettle]

Expect a similar difficulty level.

[sinful vortex]

aight

[gusty helm]

||more watchers kept spawning and spawning then I was relieved when I heard the boss defeat music||

[mortal hazel]

||AYO IT GAVE ME EA PET||

NICE

[undone jacinth]

There is something like ||boss defeat music ?||

[gusty helm]

||when u kill am important boss in the game||

||u can first hear it in False Knight||

[undone jacinth]

||in the smaller tent a lady will make your fragile charms permanent in return for scamming you with aggregious amounts of geo||

[mortal hazel]

i mean i still have my 10k geo

||im not gnonaa say no to repair my already broken charms XD||

[undone jacinth]

||9k for greed
12 k for heart
15 k for strength
Wear only the one you wanna fix
Permanent fix, they will no longer be fragile||

[mortal hazel]

ah fuck

ok nvm

[jaunty night]

Chat I'm stupid

[mortal hazel]

spoiler pls

[jaunty night]

Spoiler tag this image pls

[mortal hazel]

and u need a certain ability to pass it

[undone jacinth]

No you're just ascending

[pliant quest]

ok

im srry

[undone jacinth]

||people usually buy greed an wear it to passively get more geo
Or farm all at once using greed
I farmed
But you could literally just keep playing and buy it later||

[mortal hazel]

is there anything else i can buy with geo aanyways?

i was thinking i bought everything i can

[gusty helm]

||I have 20K+ geo||

[mortal hazel]

but im missing so many charms i have no idea how to get

[jaunty night]

|| lots of stuff require geo||

[undone jacinth]

||other than what you find in shops , there's literally nothing except this and one other thing that takes 3k ||

[hybrid barn]

google it lol

[gusty helm]

...

[mortal hazel]

yy im exploring and if i lose hope i ask here/google

just sayin

[hybrid barn]

only thing left is buying ||rotten eggs|| from the|| npc in the waterways||

[mortal hazel]

then yeah i believe i found every shop (i believe)

[mortal hazel]

they're useless unless my shade bugs out

or are they used in different ways?

[undone jacinth]

||sly, salubra, leg eater, iselda that's it||

[mortal hazel]

||yeah i dont know npc's names unfortunately||

once im back on i'll doublecheck their names pepe_cry

[hybrid barn]

ehh i just use it when i don't feel like retrieving my shade since i have my ||dreamgate at the stag station||

[hybrid barn]

.

[undone jacinth]

||Leg eater is fragile charm guy||

[mortal hazel]

ah yeah fair enough

name suits him tbh

[undone jacinth]

Yeah ..... Hope you can see the emojis

[mortal hazel]

oh yeah

then yes i found them all

[undone jacinth]

So ..... Yeah. Buy them out. ||If you don't wanna farm them just buy greed and wear it while exploring
You will eventually get the money
Also selling relics to lemm gives you a shit ton
Wanderes jounal etc||

[mortal hazel]

yeah i got the 10k from doing that

ight ty

[short kettle]

Here's an example of what my average run of that farm looks like. (Late game charms spoilers). That's 277 geo in 40 seconds. Each cycle will take 30-50 seconds. Easy money. That's around 4k geo every 10 mins.

[sinful vortex]

aight

[sinful vortex]

||i only have 10 charm notches would it still work||

here are my current ||charms||

[tepid meadow]

wont the ||colosseum|| be more convenient (level 2)

[sinful vortex]

||fuckass oblobbles gatekeeping me from beating colo 2||

[short kettle]

Totally, just drop ||grubsong||. I put it on to maximize notch usage, I didn't get hit so it didn't even activate. If you're not too confident, don't ||overcharm||. You don't wanna take too much damage and accidentally die.

[sinful vortex]

💔💔💔

[sinful vortex]

ah alr

[tepid meadow]

they easy wdym 😭

[sinful vortex]

||what charms are must haves from your build||

[short kettle]

||If you're beating colo 2 in less than 5 mins, yeah. This method gives 4k per ten mins. Colo 2 gives 2k per run so you'd have to take less than 10 mins for 2 runs for colo to be more efficient.||

[sinful vortex]

||vro they’re primal aspids but worse in every single way possible||

[sinful vortex]

@short kettle

[tepid meadow]

you have not seen their true power

wait till you have to defeat them without getting hit

[sinful vortex]

[short kettle]

||Shaman, Greed, Strength. If you're overcharming, Soul Eater. If you aren't, Spell Twister.||

[sinful vortex]

aight

[short kettle]

Oh and ||Gathering Swarm||

[sinful vortex]

||also i may have fed divine my fragile strength, could quicknail replace it||

[short kettle]

Of course

[sinful vortex]

alr

[remote jacinth]

Or ||15k|| 🫡

[sinful vortex]

yeah thats why im grinding geo

||to make it unbreakable||

[short kettle]

||Yeah, I think so. See if you're having good results, I haven't tried.||

[sinful vortex]

aight

[frail musk]

Does ||Spell Twister|| apply to healing yourself? ||It feels like it takes way more hits to be able to heal myself up by even just one life. I have 8 total right now.||

[short kettle]

It doesn't. Only ||spells.||

It takes 3 hits to heal yourself.

[frail musk]

||Does Spore Shroom make it take longer to heal yourself?||

[jade sedge]

No

[coarse otter]

||Question, are there 11 notches or 10?||

[jade sedge]

||11||

[coarse otter]

DANG IT I KNEW I WAS MISSING ONE

[wide stone]

IM BACK

is anyone here?

[jaunty night]

well generally people respond when a question is asked

[wide stone]

i was here about 2 hrs ago

nobody from that time is back

[tender python]

I hate ||radiance||

How am I supposed to beat whatever this is

Can't even last 5 minutes

[acoustic sigil]

You should be able to beat it in 5 minutes

[tender python]

[silk lantern]

||p1 p2|| was so light is ||p3|| easy aswell

[tender python]

I had a third stare but looks like the server deleted it

[tender python]

||THREE FUCKING PHASES???|| I can't even last 1 💀

[jaunty night]

|| wait till you find p4 ||

[jaunty night]

not what hes talking about

[tender python]

[jaunty night]

|| but yes there are multiple phases of radiance ||

[tender python]

Im giving myself up to 9 (one more hour from now) if I can't defeat even ||radiance|| im cheating let alone ||absolute radiance|| I have other games to play

[acoustic sigil]

Why cheat then

Just let it rest

[tender python]

Nah

[acoustic sigil]

How often are you attacking

[tender python]

If im coming back to the game its gonna be in 3 years with a new save after I forgot everything

[acoustic sigil]

So?

[pure badge]

Not looking forward to ||radiant grey prince zote||

[acoustic sigil]

Understandable

[tender python]

||In the start I attacked alot and fast and died fast, after that failed I barley attacked but didn't help with how fast im dying||

[pure badge]

Which boss are you talking about?

[silk lantern]

||p3|| is hard

[zealous bear]

In 3 years silksong could be out

[silk lantern]

Wth is ||sly|| bro since when can he figgt

[tender python]

Could? It's already announced to be December of this year

[pure badge]

Underestimate, we would be dead by the time it releases

[tender python]

Dec 6th I think

[pure badge]

This one better be truthful then

[zealous bear]

Was announced like 3 years ago already

To be end of that year

[tender python]

Well, better start praying

Spoiler tag

[honest furnace]

Oh sorry

[tender python]

Also ||destroy his corpse||

[jaunty night]

|| you probably just need to max out your account before fighting her ||

[tender python]

I have one more notch i can get and like 5 charms

[honest furnace]

Thanks

[gusty helm]

||Sprintmaster is useless||

[tender python]

When was it ever mentioned

[gusty helm]

Dawg 💀

[jaunty night]

also some pro tips: || when you enter the radiance fight you get a full heal, so save soul during thk to spam abyss shriek when the fight starts ||

[gusty helm]

Not everything I say has to be part of the convo

Chill out bro

[jaunty night]

all || masks and vessels? ||

also || what charms are you using ||

[tender python]

I was searching for it too

[tender python]

I have like ||half a mask i don't know where to get||

Lemme die to check my charms

Not gonna take long ☺️

[zealous bear]

so its ragebait

[tender python]

Dead

Kewl

[honest furnace]

|| He isn't there ||

[gusty helm]

So I have to say ||Sprintmaster|| is awesome?

[zealous bear]

yes

[gusty helm]

Do I have to?!

FUCK U

[zealous bear]

:(

[tender python]

What is this now? Some hollow knight creepy pasta

[honest furnace]

|| No really, there is no one there ||

[tender python]

||did you already destroy his corpse?||

[honest furnace]

|| No ||

[tender python]

||mark of pride,shaman stone, quick slash, nailmaster's glory|| i know i can get one more notch but idk where it is

[jaunty night]

whos corpse?

[tender python]

||The king||

[jaunty night]

|| if you arent using nailarts consistently replace nailmasters with like steady body or sum ||

[jaunty night]

|| there is no corpse on the throne? ||

[honest furnace]

|| Yes ||

[pure badge]

||Nail arts are good for bosses that like to teleport after every attack||

||grimm would be a good example||

[gusty helm]

No

[jaunty night]

do you have the || piece of kingsoul? ||

[gusty helm]

I don't see damage difference

[honest furnace]

|| Yeah ||

[gusty helm]

How much damage does ||Great Slash do compared to spamming pure nail?||

[lone badger]

Iirc ||2.5 times the nails damage||

[jaunty night]

so do you have the full || kingsoul or just half, and if you only have half was it from the king or the other one ||

[honest furnace]

|| Wait, no, I have void haert ||

[lone badger]

Sorry, numbers

[pure badge]

||Never looked too much into the logistics of dps, but it seems like one big slash with limited time to hit is better for taking out certain bosses (like Grimm) quicker||

[lone badger]

Basically, ||great slash is better when you cant hit them that often, so might as well get a big hit in, and just spamming nail is better when they don't teleport and whatnot||

[jaunty night]

|| you shouldn't be able to get back into the throne room so i think you just got a glitch ||

[pure badge]

||That’s what I said, bosses that consistently teleport after every attack||

[gusty helm]

||I can't charge nail and dodge at same time||

||I can't even charge nail and dash at same time||

[lone badger]

Just ||hold the attack button to keep it charged||

[honest furnace]

|| Okay, thanks ||

[gusty helm]

DUH

[dawn grove]

Learn how to

[gusty helm]

Fine bruh

Help channel isn't for help

[tender python]

Anyone knows the entrance to the ||hive||?

[lone badger]

But I can ||understand you can't keep it charged when doing other actions like spells and dashing||

[gusty helm]

Yes

[dawn grove]

There's no guide for charging ||narts||, just practise

[gusty helm]

||I can't keep it charged while jumping around Grimm||

[short kettle]

||Take tram for basin or deepnest all the way to the right.||

[pure badge]

||secret hidden ledge at the bottom right of the map (in kingdoms edge after taking the tram||

[jaunty night]

but you literally can

[gusty helm]

How

[pure badge]

You can, it’s just a skill issue

[jaunty night]

|| hold the charge and input your movement? ||

[pure badge]

No offense

[gusty helm]

Not like toddlers can do it bru

[lone badger]

Well, nome of his ||attacks really require anything but moving to avoid, and iirc you can keep the nail art charged while regular dashing at least||

[gusty helm]

what the fuck

[pure badge]

Correct, they don’t have the motor skills

[gusty helm]

||but the bats he shoots||

||my only opportunity to hit him is when he shoots the bats out||

[pure badge]

Jump

[gusty helm]

oh why didn't I think of it before!

[lone badger]

||Iirc you can still keep the nail art charged when dashing through that||

[jaunty night]

|| you can quite literally hit grimm on every attack ||

[lone badger]

Then when ||dashing towards him with the bat attack, release a dash slash||

[gusty helm]

||when he dashes before sending fireballs no||

[lone badger]

The ||ground attack into the uppercut?||

[gusty helm]

Maybe yes

||when he turns into the fireballs in the air||

[pure badge]

||You can also hit him during his downwards sweep, before he releases the fireball rain, and after he summons floor spikes||

[lone badger]

You could get a ||cheeky pogo on him, but it's not recommended, especially if you're charging a nail art||

[jaunty night]

yup

|| pogo and hit him from behind ||

[lone badger]

With ||nail arts I believe is what he's asking||

[gusty helm]

||the only attack that's hard for me to avoid is when he shoots down at me||

[pure badge]

That includes ||nail arts||

[short kettle]

Isn't this chat supposed to be for newbie tips? Recommending first timers to go in for damage on every attack is the opposite of good advice.

[gusty helm]

||he dashes down then to the left or right at me||

[lone badger]

Yeah, I would focus on trying to dodge his attacks first

[pure badge]

That is in fact what he does

[jaunty night]

jump

[pure badge]

Also don’t immediately hit him when he ||bows, it’s not honourable||

[gusty helm]

||I dash with shade cloak to avoid his downward strike but then he does the dash afterwards which hits me||

[jaunty night]

just jump dude

[gusty helm]

I learned that the hard way 💀

[gusty helm]

U can jump when he does that?

[lone badger]

Iirc, if ||you're behind him when he dashes to the ground, he will dash towards you, so try to be in front of him when he does the diagonal dash down||

[jaunty night]

yes

[pure badge]

Of course, it’s not like the jump button is not available

[gusty helm]

But I don't wanna collide with him

[pure badge]

You got ||shade cloak||don’t you?

Oops forgot to tag that

[lone badger]

Iirc, you can ||use the wings to first jump away from him when he's dashing down towards you, then use wings to jump back towards him||

[gusty helm]

Yes

[pure badge]

Put it to use

[gusty helm]

But I don't wanna jump into him

[lone badger]

Well, you can ||see what direction he's going to dash downward when he's in the air by where's he pointing||

[gusty helm]

||I use cloak when he does the dash into fireball attack||

[lone badger]

So, when you ||see that, jump away from him and either wings to jump again to correct yourself, or shade dash through him if he's still there||

[lone badger]

The ||ground dash into uppercut?||

[gusty helm]

Yes

[lone badger]

Yeah, that's a ||good spot to use shade dash through him||

I think ||shade cloak should be recharged by the time he's coming down for his downward dash||

If not, ||see what direction he's dashing down at, and once he's on the ground, regular dash towards him to avoid the ground dash||

Because once he's on the ground, he can't change his direction

[short kettle]

If you plan on fighting the ||other version of that fight, I wouldn't recommend getting used to dashing through the downward slash.||

That muscle memory fucks you over.

[lone badger]

Yeah, save it for the ||ground dash||

It might be better to show it visually through a video, since I'm probably not explaining it well enough

[silk lantern]

How many nail hits is ||radience||

[jaunty night]

a lot

[undone jacinth]

Better if you forget about that
But i can tell you anyway ||if you tell me your nail upgrade||

[silk lantern]

Max

[grave summit]

anyone know why soul warrior doesnt spawn in for trial of one

[tender python]

Completion rate 98% pretty proud of this but I still can't defeat ||radiance|| im also lacking 5 charms and some gurbs

[short kettle]

81 without ||strength||. 54 with it.

[grave summit]

i cant get the achievement for completing trial of fools 💔

[silk lantern]

Light work trust

[silk lantern]

Gimme 20 mins ill msg back

[tall yoke]

need help for a figbt

||best charms for watcher knight fight?||

what i have

someone answered thos yesterday but i cant find the message

[jaunty night]

|| nail or spells ||

[short kettle]

||Explore some more. Find the remaining charms. If you don't know where the grubs are, you're missing an important item that will help you with finding them. Its locked behind a boss fight thats tricky to find.||

[short kettle]

||Quick slash, Shaman stone, spell twister, grubsong.||

[tender python]

Nah

You were

Right

[short kettle]

||Dream wielder is also good in place of grubsong if you're good with timing your dream nails.||

[tender python]

Sadly

Im gonna give it a rest (probably never to come back) hell i didn't even finish those|| clowns||

[tender python]

Imma watch a video on endings and lore and be content, really don't like cheating since I played Minecraft as a kid

Absolutely kills all fun

[short kettle]

About what?

[tender python]

Wrong ping sorry

@acoustic sigil you

[tall yoke]

||wait dreamnail can hurt enemys??||

[acoustic sigil]

That is me

[tender python]

Thats what I just said

[short kettle]

||It doesn't. Its used to get a much higher amount of soul from enemies, usually when they can't be with the regular nail. Like during watcher Knights screaming animation.

Each dream nail strike gives 33 soul, enough for one spell or heal. With dreamwielder, its much faster and gives double the soul. One of the best charms in the game against certain bosses.||

[tall yoke]

my discord glitched and didnt spoil this for me...i have no idea what it is but welp.

[tall yoke]

oh thank you!!

[gusty helm]

I defeated ||Grimm|| using ||Sharp Shadow||

||Sharp Shadow is my favorite charm(cuz ur mostly gonna be dashing with it almost the whole fight anyway)||

[hazy marlin]

guys help i am at ||THK and i only have 17 minutes left in my speedrun|| what tactics should i use

[gusty helm]

||The Hollow Knight?||

[tall yoke]

how many ||charm notches|| are there?

[hazy marlin]

yes

[gusty helm]

||11||

[ebon copper]

ye, this has to be ragebait

[gusty helm]

How

HOW

HOW IS IT RAGEBAIT TELL ME

[hazy marlin]

i have 6

[jaunty night]

this is ragebait for sure

[ebon copper]

like dont ever recommend ||sharp shadow||

ever

[short kettle]

Come back later when it messes up your ||dash|| distances. Its great against ||grimm|| but that charm becomes a liability in other battles.

[ebon copper]

for anything

[gusty helm]

Ok I'll remove it if I'm staying in the air for other boss battles

[ebon copper]

its slower in every fight

including ||grimm||

just no reason to us it

[gusty helm]

But ||Traitor Lord and Grimm and NKG I'll use it for sure||

[tall yoke]

dude ||traitor lord|| is a pain in my ass

[gusty helm]

||I killed Grimm with it quick||

[short kettle]

||It does simplify grimm for newbies, believe it or not. Not a good habit to have but it works.||

[gusty helm]

||he kept abusing his dashing||

[ebon copper]

your quick is most likely not the objective quick

[ebon copper]

simple != better

its simply less dps

[short kettle]

This is hk help, people here are looking for simple solutions.

First time players.

[ebon copper]

yes, thats exactly why you dont go and recommend the charm that can permanently fk up your understanding of the games mechanics

[short kettle]

And nobody here recommended that to them.

[gusty helm]

Y'all acting like using ||Sharp Shadow|| is a case for LA law

[short kettle]

It's one thing to admit that it works and another to know that just because it works doesn't mean its a good choice.

[ebon copper]

all i said is that you shouldnt go and praise it in the channel thats supposed to help new players

[hollow jetty]

#### ## ??

[gusty helm]

English

[ebon copper]

it isnt, its simply bad

[hollow jetty]

nah, I tagged it

[bold jasper]

i’m having an insane bug that i can’t find anything about online; my game randomly speeds up (usually happens when tabbing out but sometimes just happens in the middle of gameplay as well) and recording the screen gets it back to normal

[acoustic sigil]

Do you have mods?

[gusty helm]

Ur game speeds up?

[acoustic sigil]

That is what he said yes

[bold jasper]

i don’t

[gusty helm]

Hmmm

[short kettle]

I think I've heard about the fps issue. On some computers, it exceeds the fps limits it should which makes certain areas speed up like crazy.

[gusty helm]

Never seen that before:/

[acoustic sigil]

Where did you get the game?

[ebon copper]

maybe you have cheatengine running

[bold jasper]

steam

[acoustic sigil]

?tag verify

[languid radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910762350267744276/1201992451418759179/hk_verify_integrity_2.png

[acoustic sigil]

If it's the fps issue, you can look in the config file to set it to the fps you want there

[bold jasper]

i’ve verified files, i’ll try the fps thing

[ebon copper]

it shouldnt normally be a problem tho

[acoustic sigil]

Which you can find in the saves folder

[gusty helm]

||if there's bosses where I im constantly shade cloaking thru them I'll use Sharp Shadow||

Otherwise ill go back to my normal build

[acoustic sigil]

Appdata/Locallow/Teamcherry

[gusty helm]

Hmmm

[bold jasper]

could amd drivers possibly be an issue? i had problems with them on cyberpunk and had to downgrade

[acoustic sigil]

Usually it is recommend to just be on the newest (stable) drivers, but I haven't heard of older drivers causing this

[plucky dome]

config.ini is in the game's folder actually

[short kettle]

Can't say for sure.

But if ultimately nothing works, try installing the debug mod and decreasing timescale. As a last resort option.

[acoustic sigil]

Then what is this?

[gusty helm]

Does anyone know why my PC runs like shit?

[plucky dome]

No idea, but it's a different file, the name is different too

[acoustic sigil]

Not with the amount of info you provided

[ebon copper]

possibly browser problem

[tall yoke]

ive gotten ||shade cloak|| so where should i go to see ||hornet|| again?? does she not show up again??

[acoustic sigil]

It does contain the same things but

Good to know

[bold jasper]

config.ini in steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight_Data, thats where i found the frame rate cap option

[gusty helm]

I deleted all my junk and it still is at 50+ GB 😭

[short kettle]

Following ||hornet|| is not the game's goal so yeah, dw about that.

[plucky dome]

uh weird

[short kettle]

See what you can access with what you got.

[gusty helm]

||she appears in Kingdom Edge||

[tall yoke]

i already saw her there

[gusty helm]

||Greenpath too?||

[tall yoke]

yup

[gusty helm]

Then ||u don't need her||

[tall yoke]

oh alright

[gusty helm]

||journal entry is urs now||

||I do wanna see Hornet again||

SHAW!

[late furnace]

No turkish dang

[upbeat mountain]

what boss should i do i have ||false knight, gruzmother, and greenpath hornet|| done

[radiant raft]

||You should back track to the first arena from the crosswords and instead of going forwards go down and to the left||

[upbeat mountain]

what does this even mean

[radiant raft]

There’s a room that needs an ability you now have. It lets you go to a new area.

[upbeat mountain]

and which room is that?

[scenic owl]

yo is it possible to get a custom knight model on switch or no

[radiant raft]

Probably not

Maybe ask in modding discussion

[undone jacinth]

Which one ?

[scenic owl]

k

[gusty helm]

||fuck White Defender!||

[undone jacinth]

No....

He's nice

[gusty helm]

No

He's not

[radiant raft]

Don’t do that it’s unhygienic

[gusty helm]

He's a piece of shit

[undone jacinth]

He just lives in shit
He's not shit itself yet

[radiant raft]

I fucking hate ||Radiant Markoth||

[undone jacinth]

Yeahhhhh same

[radiant raft]

||I want my floor back!||

[gusty helm]

||I haven't reached his dream fight yet||

[upbeat mountain]

who doesnt

[gusty helm]

OH NO! THE FLOOR! ITS BROKEN!

||wait that's Soul Master/Tyrant||

[lone badger]

Whar?

[worn canopy]

the last part just happened to me ... I arrived at || queen station || and saw him ... just wanted to quicly look at what's on the other side of the || station || and when I came back wanting to talk to him .. he was gone
did I miss something important or got soft-locked out of something?

[undone jacinth]

No

You have the wrong guy

[worn canopy]

yeah I already have the map xd

but alr thx

[lone badger]

Sorry, usually ||people ask if they can still find cornifer||

My mistake

My brain no work

[worn canopy]

dw

[undone jacinth]

Stuff on wiki

[undone jacinth]

I want my sanity back

||that i lost to p5 markoth||

[radiant raft]

I want my ||RadHoG||:(

[neat karma]

is that fandom or the wiki

[undone jacinth]

👀

[upbeat mountain]

when the ||hollow knight symbol|| appears does that mean ||crossroads is infected?||

[elfin pivot]

||how do you open the basement to get the gold zote statue also can you get zote back to dirtmouth||

[undone jacinth]

Fandom wiki i think ?

[neat karma]

ew fandom

hop on the real wiki iirc

[radiant raft]

Mods ban them.

[neat karma]

TRUE

[undone jacinth]

Which one ?

[jaunty night]

hollowknight.wiki

I think

[undone jacinth]

What am i supposed to think
It's hollow knight wiki
But the site name is fandom.com

[neat karma]

smh fandom sucks are you on pc

[undone jacinth]

Yeah

[undone jacinth]

And the content is literally the same for both sites ?

[neat karma]

||https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/indie-wiki-buddy/fkagelmloambgokoeokbpihmgpkbgbfm|| get this and you wont ever have to worry about shitdom

[upbeat mountain]

when the ||hollow knight symbol|| appears does that mean ||crossroads is infected?||

[neat karma]

yes with the exception that that one doesnt get griefed

[undone jacinth]

No

[upbeat mountain]

ok so when does that happen

[neat karma]

later on youll see it

kinda impossible to miss

[upbeat mountain]

well yeah it ||infects crossroads|| that would be hard to miss

[neat karma]

exactly

[undone jacinth]

Spoilers for later game if you really need to know for some reason
||If you beat any 1 dreamer or get monarchs wings / double jump||

[upbeat mountain]

ohhhh

[undone jacinth]

[neat karma]

its peak isnt it

it works for like every wiki ever that has a non fandom page and if it doesnt you can suggest it and theyll add it

i got em to add the new btd6 wiki

[undone jacinth]

YES

[neat karma]

[wet kraken]

Where to find ||grim troupe|| in ||kingdoms edge||

[jaunty night]

You just said a lot of words

[outer hare]

in hollow knight multiplayer mod is there a way to play with my friends only and not other people included in it

[jaunty night]

|| Grimm troupe is in howling peaks ||

[neat karma]

#1057825333841240104 FAQ

[wet kraken]

Got the two mixed up, I know

I’m in ||howling peaks|| right now looking for it

[neat karma]

uh what

[jaunty night]

Yes

[neat karma]

sorry ig? but this is not the chat for this

[sudden steppe]

Oh, I'm sorry, I'll be more careful.

[hollow jetty]

||how many charm notches can u have in total||

[undone jacinth]

11

[hollow jetty]

niceeee

[upbeat mountain]

i actually hate ||soul sanctum||

[gusty helm]

||Soul Master is annoying fr||

||Soul Twisters can be very pain||

[late furnace]

Soo guys what does ||void heart actually do||

[gusty helm]

Good question...

[undone jacinth]

||GIVES YOU a diff ending||

[late furnace]

Huh

[radiant raft]

Gives you access to ||some endings and makes void tendrils, siblings and your shade peaceful.|| And it has lore significance

[late furnace]

Oh so it doesn't have combat viabilitys

[undone jacinth]

no it dont

[jaunty night]

does anyone have any tips for || practicing absrad for p5? I just beat her in HoG twice in a row but im mostly concerned about pantheon nerves during climb. Am I ready for attempting to beat her in pantheon? ||

[late furnace]

But making my|| shade peaceful|| is fine ig

And lore stuff is good

[undone jacinth]

yep

[late furnace]

So

How can ||I get to the path of pain||

[jaunty night]

|| hidden breakable wall in white palace ||

[late furnace]

Is it close to the entrance?

[jaunty night]

|| up the central elevator and in the veritcal room with the wingsmoulds theres a wall on the left you can break ||

[undone jacinth]

😂 no

[upbeat mountain]

should i just ||buy every charm from salubra||?

[undone jacinth]

yes

[upbeat mountain]

k

[undone jacinth]

if you have ||geo|| to spare

[jaunty night]

|| if you want charm notches you probably should be collecting them ||

[late furnace]

||I fucking hate myself I thought that the parkour shit in the palace was the last until I heard of the path of pain and by the looks of it it'll probably make me go through a mental breakdown ||

[upbeat mountain]

ngl i cant think of anything else to buy

[pure badge]

It is optional, but it is worth doing

[stoic cedar]

||i would suggest beating absrad once on ascended before going for p5 attempts again. this way even with nerves, u will be able to survive||

[late furnace]

Is there any benefits from doing it?

[hoary summit]

||you don’t need it for 112% but you do need it to understand the lore better||

||and its a lot of fun||

[pure badge]

You get a ||lore drop, and Seal of Binding in the hunter journal.||

[short kettle]

Suggeated to do it once you have all charms. You can do an infinite soul build then which greatly reduces risk and time.

[jaunty night]

alright gotta lock in now

[late furnace]

||Or just use the hiveblood?||

I hope its not that hard

[pure badge]

||Hiveblood isn’t needed||

[short kettle]

Hiveblood forces you to wait.

[hoary summit]

||in combination with grubsong||

[undone jacinth]

You have to wait like 10 seconds for that

[short kettle]

The other build does not, its objectively better.

[pure badge]

||There are soul deposits in the path of pain that give unlimited soul||

[late furnace]

But u can't really get infinit soul can u

[short kettle]

||Not accessible by certain parts.||

[short kettle]

For platforming you absolutely can.

[late furnace]

How?

[jaunty night]

|| hiveblood is useful in some cases, so is stuff like grubsong (i also found quick slash and mop useful for pogoing)||

[short kettle]

It doesn't work in battle because battles don't let you heal as you please.

[pure badge]

True, ||they only exist at checkpoints||

Would also recommend ||grubsong for the path of pain.|| you will take a lot of hits

[late furnace]

I'll use that hive blood mop and quick slash

[hoary summit]

||mop is actually very bad for pop bc it can make some passages nearly impossible||

[short kettle]

||Grubsong, Grubberfly's Elegy, Deep Focus.

Grubsong synergies with Elegy to give 25 soul for each mask of damage. So when you lose 2 makes, you gain 50 soul. Healing with deep focus takes 33 soul for 2 masks. You'll always have excessive soul. No walking back and hitting soul totems. No waiting 10 seconds everytime like with Hiveblood.||

[pure badge]

Fair point, same goes for ||sharp shadow, because the longer dash can hinder your performance||

[jaunty night]

really? i did the whole thing and never had an issue

[hoary summit]

Exactly

[late furnace]

||Also is shade cloak recommended the one that boosts the range of ur shadow dashs ||

[short kettle]

||Mop|| is not as bad as people say it is.

[jaunty night]

NO || DONT USE SHARP SHADOW IT WILL KILL YOU ||

[hoary summit]

Sure you mean ||pop and not normal white palace?||

[short kettle]

That's the worst charm you could pick for it.

[pure badge]

That’s the ability, I’m talking about the ||sharp shadow charm||

[jaunty night]

yes || path of pain ||

[short kettle]

Plenty of folks have done it with ||mop||.

[late furnace]

Oh that makes sense

[hoary summit]

Huh okay

[short kettle]

It's not that hard.

I have too.

[pure badge]

Would recommend ||shaman stone for the end of the pop||

[hoary summit]

But its unnecessarily complicated

[pure badge]

It’s for the end, you will need the accumulated soul

[hoary summit]

Ive only seen pros do it

[late furnace]

Good to know

[short kettle]

Its not, its plenty leniency in most parts. Only a "trouble" in some parts which are not that hard in the first place.

[late furnace]

I think I'll stick with this build it makes alot of sense

Man where u 5 hours ago

I had to wait 10 secs every time I got hit

It was a pain in the ass

[short kettle]

That one leaves you with 3 ||notches.|| Go with ||Quick slash, I'd say.||

[hoary summit]

Fs

[late furnace]

Not mop?

[jaunty night]

|| quick slash is much more useful ||

[late furnace]

Ig with the ranged attacks wr don't need it

[jaunty night]

|| makes pogoing so easy ||

[undone jacinth]

||mop will make your pogo too high
Launching you into ceiling thorns||

[hoary summit]

I think ||mop is not necessary, while qs can be useful in pop||

[short kettle]

||Mop will help in some parts but could trouble you in others if you don't have exceptional control over your pogos. Quick slash will help and doesn't have any drawbacks.||

[jaunty night]

i was talking about || quick slash? ||

[late furnace]

Alr I'll go to pop tmro

I am exhausted from parkours rn

[hoary summit]

Oooh my fault, youre right ||i thought it was abt mop||

[late furnace]

I think I am at ||100%||

Or close to it

[hoary summit]

||qs wouldve made my run easier too…||

[short kettle]

Gl. Tip: ||if you use the build i suggested, always keep yourself at -1 health so that you don't have to deal with elegy's annoying sound or visual effect that can make pogoing harder. So just heal when you're at -3 only.||

[hoary summit]

||You can see percentage in your inventory after going into black egg temple||

[late furnace]

||I still haven't went to junk pit||

[hoary summit]

||and reading the tablet||

[woven stratus]

hey

[late furnace]

||Wait but doesn't that negates the elegy effect to make u use ranged attacks?||

[short kettle]

||Yeah, and you won't need that in path of pain.||

[late furnace]

Wait fr?

I thought we'd use it

It sounds very helpful

[short kettle]

||There is nearly no combat in pop. And when there is, you just spam your spells. Elegy is useless in it anyway.||

||Elegy's|| extra range doesn't affect pogo. It's a pretty meh charm even outside this though.

[late furnace]

||So we use it for the the other grub charm||

[woven stratus]

heya i have a question i guess this is the help channel for hollow knight

[short kettle]

Yes. Some charms have synergies. ||Grubsong + Elegy is one. Without Elegy, grubsong only gives you 15 soul. So 2 masks damage will give you 30 soul and 2 masks heal with deep focus will cost 33 soul. Doesn't work.||

[late furnace]

||If I die in the white palace I won't die in the real world right?||

[short kettle]

Spoiler tags please!

[woven stratus]

sorry

[late furnace]

Where can I cheak all the other ||charm synergies?||

[short kettle]

||Don't worry about that one yet. You'll know when you get the necessary skills for that fight. For now, you're simply not meant to defeat it.||

[woven stratus]

ok thanks

[jade sedge]

||Dying in white palace counts as an overworld death in most ways||

[short kettle]

I'm sure there's a wiki page. Most of them suck. ||Grubsong + Weaversong and Dashmaster + Spiritmaster are the only other synergies that have some use, I'd say.||

[late furnace]

||What does dashmaster and sprintmaster offer?||

[short kettle]

||Fastest walking speed in game. Which is okay for wandering during endgame.||

[late furnace]

Aa so makes us fast asf

[short kettle]

Yup

[wide stone]

yo the void dragon wsg

im back

I got ||6 masks ||now and I got ||super dash||!

[hollow jetty]

I fucking hate ||Grim's fire|| questline

[inner axle]

Hello I’m new to hollow knight and I was wondering how do I spike jump on the Nintendo switch

[noble salmon]

||swing down on spikes||

[inner axle]

||I found this spikes on the walls in this secret passage way and I wanna get through jt||

[noble salmon]

||jump and attack down on the spikes||

[inner axle]

||the pathway is very narrow if that makes sense like it makes you go left right left, but is that all I gotta do?||

[noble salmon]

||before it was there little guys that act like the dvd screensaver?||

[inner axle]

wdym?

[noble salmon]

Ok nvm

||is the room you are in connected to a tall room||

[azure grail]

if you get to the middle of the tunnel thing if we're thinking abt the same thing you can jus downslash over and over and make it

[inner axle]

Maybe I can go and find the place and take a screenshot is that fine

?

[azure grail]

yes

what area are you in?

[noble salmon]

Spoiler tag that

[azure grail]

is the area in ||crossroads?||

[inner axle]

||I think so let me check||

Yes

[noble salmon]

Can you show us the room

[azure grail]

is it below ||greenpath?||

[inner axle]

||ima go to it rn hold on||

[azure grail]

and through a breakable door thing

[inner axle]

Yes

[azure grail]

alr

ik where you are

you only need downslash for all the path throught this area

[azure grail]

btw hes going towards ||mawlek||

[noble salmon]

I thought so

[hollow jetty]

fuck ||Grim's quest||, I aint doing shit

[noble salmon]

What you up to

[azure grail]

fetch quests

[hollow jetty]

the fuckass|| fire child ques||t or wtv its called, fuck that

its bullshit

[azure grail]

whats annoying?

the enemies or the travels?

[inner axle]

How do I mark images as spoilers

[noble salmon]

Like ||total how many flames you have gotten||

[jade sedge]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[hollow jetty]

finished the first 3, now I'd have to do the following 3

[noble salmon]

Ok

[azure grail]

then the last three

[noble salmon]

||Attack down on spikes||

[azure grail]

yeye just downslash up those spikes

[noble salmon]

trust

[inner axle]

I keep on dying 😭 😭 😭

OH WAIT

IT WORKED

[azure grail]

nice

[inner axle]

I’m on top now

Do I just drop straight down?

[azure grail]

ythere is no more pogoing for that btw

[noble salmon]

Yes

[azure grail]

look down

make sure you can see what platform ur aiming for

[inner axle]

Something’s telling me that I’m about to get obliterated by some crazy enemy

[azure grail]

ur fine

[noble salmon]

No why would you say that

[azure grail]

||LOL||

[azure grail]

are there large corpses?

[inner axle]

Is there a checkpoint in this area

[azure grail]

nope

[inner axle]

I don’t think so

[noble salmon]

No

[inner axle]

Yikes

[azure grail]

nearest ||bench is at sauna||

i think

[inner axle]

NOOO

I DIED

[azure grail]

also btw if you beat this area you can pretty much take on anything in ||greenpath||excapt for ||moss knights||

[azure grail]

to what?

[inner axle]

||WHAT THE HELL IS THAT||

[ashen rapids]

rah

[azure grail]

cool

[inner axle]

WHY IS THERE THAT ABOMINATION

[azure grail]

thats non nice

[noble salmon]

||haha you got evil flashlighted||

[bright zodiac]

So hi guys there is this place i like broke that glass up but somehow they mad me get it and somehow it didn't break and the way i can get out i need to move that thing and i got no soul left how i'm i supposed to get out and i was going along way without saving i finished a boss if i log out will my progress and geo will be saved?

[azure grail]

be nice his whole familt is dead

[inner axle]

That thing has a family?

[noble salmon]

Yes

[azure grail]

he did

[noble salmon]

Yes

[azure grail]

now he doesnt

[noble salmon]

Rip evil flashlight

[bright zodiac]

Even though i didn't save the geo will be saved right??

[inner axle]

I’m not sure about hollow knight lore but he probably has a sad backstory

[azure grail]

it saves when you quit

[azure grail]

its very simple

his family died so hes brooding

[inner axle]

||only thing I know is that the character you play as has no emotion||

[bright zodiac]

Thx aloot

[azure grail]

so he tries to kill you

[bright zodiac]

Tyy

[azure grail]

there is a save point after you kill the boss btw

so you cant save scum back

[noble salmon]

||even if you save and quit you will be stuck there with ur geo||

[azure grail]

just in the boss arena

[neat karma]

why are we recommending skips to a new players

[azure grail]

thats a skip?

[neat karma]

Yes

[azure grail]

i thought that was how you were supposed to do it

[neat karma]

Youre not supposed to be there until later

[azure grail]

lol

[bright zodiac]

Eh i didn't see it will look for it

[noble salmon]

Yes you are meant to use ||claw||

[noble salmon]

you should alr have it

[azure grail]

it saves automatically is what i mean

[bright zodiac]

Wait they will spawn me back in this stuck place or the banch?

[noble salmon]

||boss arena||

[bright zodiac]

I won't fight the boss again?

[azure grail]

no

[bright zodiac]

Ahh alright thx alot guys

[noble salmon]

All good

[azure grail]

wait and it should go back to reality

[noble salmon]

Transition to a cutscene

[runic pasture]

i wait for a lot of time and Nothing happens

[wide stone]

mobile hollow knight??????????
maybe its a fake copt

copy*

[noble salmon]

No

[azure grail]

maybe

[noble salmon]

Steam has a mobile port

I have tried it

[wide stone]

oh

ok

[azure grail]

what

[wide stone]

oh yeah

[azure grail]

ive never heard of that

[wide stone]

its annoying to set up though

[azure grail]

too bad i only have Xbox

[runic pasture]

I've triad too much version of hollow knight mobile but they're all the same 😦

[azure grail]

wdym

[runic pasture]

I've try from steam google and hacked version they're all the same thing

[azure grail]

try mods

then its different thing

[runic pasture]

i didnt try them yet

[azure grail]

all randomisers

[scenic egret]

please delete this

[runic pasture]

why?

[scenic egret]

its considered a spoiler in this channel and we WILL find you for that

[runic pasture]

ok

[azure grail]

tbf tho it is a click to reveal thingf

[scenic egret]

also since youre on an unofficial version you will not get any tech help from this community(people have decided not to help with pirates)

[runic pasture]

bruh i have that problem in official versions but its still has problem

[scenic egret]

you can make a post in #1057825333841240104 (even if its not modded)

this channel is for ingame help, they deal with the nerdy tech stuff

[noble salmon]

Pirated versions tend to work less than official versions

[acoustic sigil]

Shocker tbh

[noble salmon]

||Once i got i pirated version to see what hk was like without godmaster and lifeblood (after i bought the full game and didn’t know i could download patch then) whenever i picked up a charm or used too many benches i would lose control of the knight||

[devout walrus]

Could you spoiler tag it

[pulsar crag]

how

[scenic egret]

delete this first

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[devout walrus]

If you click on the image before you send the message you can select the option

[pulsar crag]

ok

[scenic egret]

also dont use /spoiler it sucks, instead use ||text||

[pulsar crag]

sorry

[devout walrus]

Also he shouldn't be there

It's a glitch

[pulsar crag]

ok

i got my answer ig

[slate veldt]

|| where do i go after i get the crystal heart? ||

[scenic egret]

where you havent gone before!

a metroidvania like hk is meant to not have a place for you to go

[slate veldt]

Ok! I'll just explore!

I like the background art in this game!

[surreal fiber]

How do I get this?

[devout walrus]

I think use ||desolate dive|| where that downward passage is

[hearty latch]

I need help

I cant finish the 4th pantheon

I died on the Lurien's guardians

[surreal fiber]

which downward passage?

[pulsar crag]

Lets do this

[wanton mason]

hello

btw guys if i ||dreamnail on the hollow knight where hornet comes and defeat the radiance|| will i still be ablle to play on that game or no

[vague cloak]

You will

[wanton mason]

• what ending will i get

[pulsar crag]

good ending

||all the souls rest peacefully||

[wanton mason]

there are 5 right?

[pulsar crag]

uh i think so

||i just did the radiance one||

[wanton mason]

i wanna get the one where ||void takes the godseeker||

how do i get it

[pulsar crag]

thats the hardest one

[wanton mason]

oh forget about it 😂

[pulsar crag]

lol

[wanton mason]

spoiler tag btw

[pulsar crag]

ok wait

bro when will silksong release 😭

[wanton mason]

u on pc?

[pulsar crag]

yeah

[wanton mason]

silksong tomorrow!! i believe!!

[pulsar crag]

lmao

i hope i hope

[wanton mason]

you can just select the sentence u wanna spoiler and some buttons will appear

[pulsar crag]

yeah ik i just figured out how to do it i dont really talk much in this chat

wait isnt the maximum 112%?

someone in general has 114%

[wanton mason]

yea it is

[pulsar crag]

||is path of pain included?||

||my brother plays hollow knight as well hes defeated all the bosses in the game at radiant yes even markoth||

[wanton mason]

thats not possible

[scenic egret]

no

[wanton mason]

spoiler tag, and ||path of pain|| doesn't even give 1% lol

respect

[pallid comet]

it doesnt give percent

[scenic egret]

it is tagged

[wanton mason]

he deleted it

[sour yoke]

good god the man took ||grimmchild he's out of his mind||

[pulsar crag]

what its too cute to let it suffer in my inventory

[sour yoke]

I mean

[wanton mason]

i need to stop fr fr

[pulsar crag]

lol

bro this was def top 3 games in my list

this was really really good

[wanton mason]

same

[pulsar crag]

the lore placement and everything

kind of like undertale but undertale has a set story but even then you can choose different routes in undertale

[wanton mason]

i spent 65hour on it (not that much but yea)

[pulsar crag]

this is another save file but on my main one i have like 80h

my brother has 200h

[scenic egret]

hop on nine sols

[pulsar crag]

on one save file

[pulsar crag]

whats that

idk why but all these 2D indie games are the best

games ever

the story telling in these 2d games is a chefs kiss

[wanton mason]

fr

[devout walrus]

Shoot, sorry I had to do something, but the one next to the ||temple of the black egg marking's horn||

[surreal fiber]

thanks

[solid heart]

65 hours for ||109%|| is crazy

[wanton mason]

you mean it's too much ?

[dawn grove]

Above average but don't worry about it enjoy the game at your pace

[ebon copper]

love how you came out of lurnking to say that

.

[solid heart]

Too low, a lot of people take around 80-100 hours for that

[ebon copper]

surely

xd

[elfin pivot]

I mean i have about 80 hours and only have 98% i think

[ebon copper]

im pretty sure at this point i have no clue how much an avg ||112%|| takes

seen both ends here is help

but like i think anywhewre from 50-150 for|| 112||, should be normal enough

[solid heart]

Yeah

[ebon copper]

i remember like a month ago someone came here, claimed to have done ||112 ||in 20hrs, i was calling cap, and got yelled at by like everyone

eversince than i feel like i have a skill issue

[shut sparrow]

112 in 20 hours for a first playthrough is doubtable imo

[ebon copper]

in my personal opinion, its not quite possible due to how much the game branches

but i was clearly wrong ig

[shut sparrow]

if they looked everything up and 20 hour cap is purely based on skill for the ||pantheons|| sure maybe. But not just fully 100%ing the whole game

[shut sparrow]

I assume they lied

[ebon copper]

welp

i can maybe look it back, but not sure

lemme see

[wanton mason]

this is my first ever game created

20hr to 112% in your first time is a lie

[ebon copper]

found it @shut sparrow

[wanton mason]

unless he tried to speedrun and knows the game

[ebon copper]

i mean, my attitude was definitely not the nicest, so fs i was more so in the wrong either way

[wanton mason]

i got warned for some reason...

it said 'shitpost'

anyways can i still play the same game after i beat ||radiance||

[ebon copper]

very much so, the game acan have 100s of hrs of content if you wish to pursue it

[wanton mason]

ok lol

[shut sparrow]

hm idk I'm too tired for this

they seem genuine but unless they got more help than what they made it seem like I can only doubt it

[ebon copper]

i mean, its crazy if its true

[ebon copper]

also, this is such a based reply

[dawn grove]

They probably got a shit ton of help and didn't actually enjoy their first playthrough on their own

[ebon copper]

just beating bosses like ||nkg or pv||, should normally be like an hr

[dawn grove]

It took me 80 hours to do ||112%||

[ebon copper]

ye, this is very reasonable, my i beat ||p5|| at 75, remember pretty vividly

but like, im mid compared to many ppl here, not mid enough to get played by like 50hrs tho

like damn

[dawn grove]

That's actually pretty good. I beat ||p5 at like 120 hours I'm pretty sure (though I used like almost no guides for anything and didn't know what I was doing)||

[ebon copper]

same, tho i watched a ton of other hk youtube, i watched all the guides and shi after doing ||radhog|| and allthat

[dawn grove]

The average player struggles with ||absrad|| right? And there's no way that person didn't search up everything or got help from a friend who already played. Maybe they even have experience from other metroidvanias

[ebon copper]

and i basically havent gotten better at hk since like 200hrs in...

[ebon copper]

i mean, ||absrad isnt in 112||

[dawn grove]

True but still

A lot of people here are crazy good but I feel like the average player isn't that good

[ebon copper]

the hardest boss should be regular ||rad, and pv|| if you play your cards really well

as|| nkg is optional for 112||

[dawn grove]

Those 2 are definitely the hardest, though ||watcher knights|| took me the most tries out of any boss for some reason

[wanton mason]

will the ||radiance ||appear in the ||godhome|| if i just reach him?

[ebon copper]

well, sorta

[dawn grove]

You have to do ||the last challenge in godhome and reach her there||

[ebon copper]

get there and you will see is the best non spoiling answer

[wanton mason]

i already know that lol

i mean the regular ||radiance||

[dawn grove]

No

[wanton mason]

not in the ||pantheon||

[ebon copper]

also ||absrad|| is a she i belive, some ppl go crazy in this server for that stuff

[wanton mason]

yea i also think that

[dawn grove]

||Radiance|| is a different boss from the one in ||godhome||, so you can't unlock her in ||godhome||. You can unlock the ||godhome|| version

[ebon copper]

just saying cause you referred as he

[ebon copper]

here

[wanton mason]

it was a mistake lol

[ebon copper]

the regular ||radiance is only doable in hall of gods|| via mods

[wanton mason]

maybe i refered it to the boss

[civic rose]

should i beat the game before attempting ||path of pain||

[civic rose]

??

isn’t that the ||”true” ending boss??||

[ebon copper]

yes?

[civic rose]

ih

OG

i didn’t see mods

oh*

OH*

mb

[spice lodge]

||if i found the letter does that mean i can buy the map at his wife's shop? for some reason he isnt here when this is the first time ive been here and im kinda lost, and i dont want to find my way back just to find out the map isnt sold there||

[wanton mason]

yes it is in the|| wife's shop in dirtmouth||

[snow steppe]

||bapanada||

[wanton mason]

pabanana 😂

• ping reply pls 😭

[snow steppe]

why

[wanton mason]

i'll not see it if you don't

[snow steppe]

true

[wanton mason]

gtg go sleep byee

[snow steppe]

hah sleep

[spice lodge]

||does him sleeping in the shop mean i got all the maps?||

[solid heart]

Some people like getting pinged for anything

Like me

[solid heart]

Yes

[solid heart]

Bye! Gn

[south cobalt]

hey guys im making a sheet of best charms and the best way to defeat bosses so i may need some help in the future to come

[gusty helm]

||do Pure Vessel when u get the chance||

[ebon copper]

what are you making the sheet for?

[south cobalt]

help new players out on their struggle with bosses and just in case i forget stuff :p

[gusty helm]

I need that

The sheet

I'm desparate

[ebon copper]

well, it depends on what they have

[gusty helm]

||I need help defeating Gruz Mother||

[south cobalt]

||gruz mother...||

[ebon copper]

if you look up people witha a lot of hrs doing charm tierlists in #hk-discussion it should give you a decent idea

[south cobalt]

ok ty

[gusty helm]

||I'm stuck defeating White Defender||

||I defeated him 1/5 times already||

[ebon copper]

if they have any of these: ||quick slash, strenght, shaman stone, soul twister, steady body nail masters glory||
these are thw 1st to recommend no matter the situation

[south cobalt]

yeah ik

i havent tested a lot of charms yet tho

[gusty helm]

who uses ||Steady Body|| anymore?

[south cobalt]

most the time i go for the usual

[gusty helm]

||Sharp Shadow is supreme||

[south cobalt]

||sted bod goated frfr||

[ebon copper]

its good for both new and experienced players

[ebon copper]

okay man

[gusty helm]

||is that why White Defender takes longer?||

[ebon copper]

[south cobalt]

the only thing that tyops everything is ||wayward compass obviously||

no

[ebon copper]

btw, just so you know im not just saying shit to you about ||sharp shadow||, i have done ||absrad sharp shadow|| only, i know exactly how terrible that charm is

[south cobalt]

there is one boss that that charm is good for

[ebon copper]

no, the reason its a no is cause it builds a bad habit, and its not even like its superior dps

not in any bossfight

simply swinging your nail outdoes the dmg

[south cobalt]

yeah but u could argue that ||watcher knights are the only boss its good for due to the fact that the long dash range is helpful and sharp shad pierces shrough rolling getting in extra dmg||

[ebon copper]

its not tho, while they are ||rolling you should be ready with fireballs||

[south cobalt]

a lot of times i find my self stuck in a corner where i have to get dmg because ones ||jumping at me and the other is rolling and my dash isnt long enough||

[ebon copper]

||watcher knights is a fight that is doable without using any iframes at all, and dashing|| thru them in particular is imo not quite reasonable

just ||pogo when they roll on the ground and walk under or dash away if they bounce||

[south cobalt]

what if they do both???

[ebon copper]

that also helps you build a good foundation for ||pv|| when it comes to it

[ebon copper]

you read the room and act accordingly

[south cobalt]

i thought ||pv was thk on steroids||

[ebon copper]

if in a really dire situation use ||dive or ddark||

[ebon copper]

kinda, but ||pogoing is much more important in the pv|| fight

lemme see, if i find an old vid of mine

||dashing|| thru them should be the last option

ye, like this

[gusty helm]

||Grimm and Traitor Lord too but that's it||

All other bosses it could be shit

[south cobalt]

not for ||grimm||

[gusty helm]

||it worked for me on him||

[south cobalt]

nah

for ||nkg u will get cooked||

[ebon copper]

a lot of ppl learn ||nkg with sharp shadow||

and then they are surprised that they cant do ||p5||...

[south cobalt]

yeah but it rlly hurts u when u miss read attacks

[static grotto]

is it recommended to use a guide for your first playthrough?

[south cobalt]

no

explore the world dont get spoiled on everything

[civic rose]

does ||greed|| increase winnings from ||collo||

[south cobalt]

only use a guide if ur getting rlly rlly frustrated

[south cobalt]

no

[civic rose]

awh shucks

[south cobalt]

yeah ikr

[static grotto]

what if i miss something important i need?

[south cobalt]

u wont trust me

[civic rose]

i really hate the hp on the enemies before the ||obblobes|| or wtv they are because they JUST BARELY survive a ||great slash max nail strength hit||

and it takes alot of time

[ebon copper]

i personally think that ||nkg|| is relatively easy to do challanges on compared to the other harder bosses

||dashless|| is pretty doable for all bosses tho, ||sly ||is the most painful one funny enough

[south cobalt]

im struggling on ||sheo ;-;||

[ebon copper]

jumpless ||nkg|| is surprisingly repeatable and learnable

[ebon copper]

well, im sure youll get him soon

as i understand you have done ||nkg|| tho right?

[south cobalt]

yeah took a few tries bet yeah

[ebon copper]

ahh, i get to flex the no jump charmless vid

give it a sec, its a long mp4 file