hk-help

[neat karma]

the hell am i supposed to look at

[tribal dove]

oh yeah i see it now

[neat karma]

whys there no red arrows

[lone badger]

In terms of ||length, p5, but in terms of difficulty, PoP||

[tribal dove]

not at all

[acoustic sigil]

The frustration

[neat karma]

how am i supposed to decode this cryptid ass message

[tribal dove]

||pop was easy||

[lone badger]

If you've done it a lot

[tribal dove]

i did it 2 hours first try

pretty easy

[lone badger]

I recently did ||PoP and it took like 20 minutes, but that's because I've done it like 4 times already||

[tribal dove]

why is ||p5 easier than steel soul 100%||

😭

[lone badger]

||eh, steel soul 100% ain't that bad||

[tribal dove]

yeah its easy

did it in like 11 hours

first try

[lone badger]

Not easy, but not bad

[tribal dove]

def easy

[lone badger]

Would you recommend any tips for ||GPZ ab?||

[tribal dove]

||all bindings||?

[lone badger]

tags

[tribal dove]

is that what it ius

[lone badger]

Yes

[tribal dove]

Ah

Pogo him

[lone badger]

||and the zotelings? Because they don't die in one hit||

[tribal dove]

Dodge them

[simple island]

@daring moat surely, someone is asking for ||ab GPZ tips||

[lone badger]

Indeed I am

[lone badger]

[simple island]

Basically when you get to ||AB|| level you should expect tips in this channel to become rather unrelevant, people haven’t spent enough time on the bosses to fully understand how they work on a complex level

[lone badger]

Eh, fair

[simple island]

Fiablo over there has like ||30 rad gpz|| clear in a row, so they will have good tips probably

[lone badger]

I shoulda let him die, I hate him with these

[pallid comet]

yea no iam not ||defeating abs rad||

[stoic cedar]

||the hardest part about ab gpz is dealing with the zotelings, since they take more than one nail swing to kill. what i would recommend is saving ur soul only for specific ddark moments (i like to do a ddark after the nail slam attack and at the end of the flail attack), or to kill the jumping / flying zotelings that zote spawns (either shriek or ddark). for the volatile zotelings, they take 3 hits to kill, so 2 hits is completely safe, whereas the 3rd hit needs some caution since that will explode the volatile zoteling. what i like to do is to hit the nearby volatile zotelings out of the way until i have full soul, then ddark whatever gpz does while the volatile zotelings are still on screen||

[lone badger]

not with that attitude

[pallid comet]

mf is so fast

[lone badger]

Yes

[pallid comet]

never made it to the final phase

[lone badger]

Alright. Alright, solid advice

[pallid comet]

keep getting dunked on by the beams

[lone badger]

Yeah, ya only get like half a second to dodge them

Kinda unfair imo, but eh

[lone badger]

One thing with the ||beams however, is the third beam burst hits around the same place as the first one||

Iirc

So wherever you dodged the first one, go back to around that spot for the third set

[pallid comet]

yea i noticed that

but also the the ladder shit is ass

the whole phase 3 is terrifying

[lone badger]

When ||she raises her head, she'll do either the sword burst or the beam burst, and I think if her face light up, she'll do the beam burst, so watch out for those tells||

[pallid comet]

||i didnt even play asceded markoth cause of the floor shit
now iam fighting the hardest boss in markoth arena||

[lone badger]

Yeah, ||phase 4 is pretty brutal with platforming being added||

[pallid comet]

i just pray she spawn next to me so i upslash and ||ddark||

[lone badger]

One thing, ||stay in the middle and wait for her to come to you||

Don't try to chase her

[pallid comet]

ik that but i doit anyway

[lone badger]

sorry, just tryna give tips

So what do ya need help with specifically?

[pallid comet]

no i mean i know its wrong to chase but i doit anyway cause i forget

[lone badger]

Ohhhhh

Well, if you have the ||soul to spare, send a shade soul at her if she's far from the middle||

[pallid comet]

i have 2 sides
either i no hit her till the phase 4
or i die before phase 2

[lone badger]

It do be like that

[pallid comet]

also i feel like ||qslash aint good||

[pseudo mason]

i need help

again

how do i get to him

[stoic cedar]

||wdym quick slash is amazing against abs rad||

[neat karma]

again
from the left

[pallid comet]

i upward slash most of the time so i feel iam missing something

[acoustic sigil]

Somewhere here

[pallid comet]

but it will be helpful in the last phase

[neat karma]

like whatsapp danger,,,

[pallid comet]

look mom iam on the tv

[stoic cedar]

||with quick slash u can get two up slashes per jump instead of one. And on plats it’s even better since u can spam nail slashes on a good teleport||

[pseudo mason]

oh i got it

[pallid comet]

bro uses notepad ++

[pseudo mason]

idk how i didint see

[acoustic sigil]

The superior txt handler naturally

[pallid comet]

ah isee

[pallid comet]

yep
i used to use when i studied sql

[pseudo mason]

i should go from top or right?

[acoustic sigil]

Top

[fallen heath]

Wall break

[pseudo mason]

i got it

[fallen heath]

||Coliseum|| dawg

Dawg tag the ss too

[acoustic sigil]

It is

[fallen heath]

It didnt show as a spoiler at 1st for me idk y

||u gotta find a key at queens gardens||

[acoustic sigil]

||You need a similarly named key, which can be found at like the polar opposite of hallownest||

Or that

Little less subtle

[pseudo mason]

||how i am 2300 essence when i had 2400 before||

[radiant raft]

||dream gate takes away one essence when used||

[acoustic sigil]

||Using dreamgate costs 1 essence||

[pseudo mason]

oh

but it wont make any diffrence?

[radiant raft]

Nope

[pseudo mason]

good

i need to go from above?

[acoustic sigil]

That is in fact what I said yes

[pseudo mason]

oh i didint

saw ur message

sr

[lone badger]

Wait, question, ||when starting a file in godseeker mode, you would still need to fight GPZ, right?||

[acoustic sigil]

No?

How would that work

Oh you mean like he is in the ||pantheons||

Yes he is there

[lone badger]

||so if I want to boot GPZ outta the pantheons, I'd have to do a whole new file and leave him to die at vengefly king, right?||

[stoic cedar]

yea pretty much. or u can save edit if u on pc

[lone badger]

that could be an option

||since I hate GPZ with ab, he's fine normally, but his minions suck ass||

[stoic cedar]

||eh it just takes practice, u just need to know how to deal with the zotelings in an efficient manner. and anyways, it aint the true ab experience without ab gpz lol||

||like p3ab would be pretty free without him||

[steel urchin]

Yo chat what does this mean, my friend beat ||all panthoens|| and can't access ||P5||

[acoustic sigil]

He needs ||voidheart||

[steel urchin]

OH

WHY THANK YOU!!

[lone badger]

||collector||

He'd still pose a challenge

[stoic cedar]

||nah p3ab collector is actually free once u know what to do, just cyclone slash spam and the adds dont really pose a huge threat anymore||

||p5ab collector on the other hand...||

[lone badger]

Yeah, I have gotten better at him thankfully

[lone badger]

||yeah, even with cyclone, I doubt his new minions will die easily||

[stoic cedar]

||yea, with attuned collector, the adds all die to one cyclone slash hit. but with ascended version, the adds take two cyclone slash hits to kill, making cyclone slash less effective than on attuned. despite that, cyclone slash is still one of the best options on ascended collector||

[lone badger]

Indeed

Ya know, I never thought about this
||but for p5ab when I attempt it . . .
how the hell am I supposed to do markoth ascended ab?||

[stoic cedar]

||narts and a ton of patience||

[lone badger]

Yeah, I feel ||dash slash will be my best friend during that||

And maybe ||great if I'm close enough||

[jade sedge]

Which one

You cant get to it from this side

[simple island]

From below

[pseudo mason]

how do i get here

[lone badger]

||Iirc the wall near the grub you need to cdash from and double jump to a wall above||

[simple island]

From below

[lone badger]

I believe it's from another area that ends near there, yeah

[pseudo mason]

where it stars

starts

[royal tide]

Nah bro, You´re winner

[pseudo mason]

im to dumb

[stoic cedar]

its to the right of where u r

[pseudo mason]

can u do circle

in paint

or smt

[stoic cedar]

just go down, right, and then straight up

[pseudo mason]

from where i am here

?

[simple island]

Yes

Just… open up your eeeeyyyyyes

[stoic cedar]

#modding-discussion

[pseudo mason]

I DID IT

[simple island]

Also lumafly requires github ? Don’t think so ? I think it’s a straight download ?

[pseudo mason]

opa

[lone badger]

Look at 'em all

[simple island]

Yay

[jade sedge]

||Go right after the last fall||

[pseudo mason]

||
||

i cant get it when i already killed him

?

[jade sedge]

||Yeah you cant, but there is an achievement for both ways so you'd have missed an achievement anyways.||

[pseudo mason]

HE SAID I SHOULD KILL HIM

[jade sedge]

Please add spoiler tags to your message

[pseudo mason]

oh

[jade sedge]

Here basically all hk content needs spoiler tags. You can tag the message by adding || to both sides of it.

[lone badger]

Indeed

It's common practice to just spoil whatever you talk about in regards to HK here

[pseudo mason]

||which ones i should use for white defender||

[lone badger]

Those are the channel rules

Exactly

Still not tagged btw

[simple island]

Could you not ? Like please it’s not that hard
<@&283547423706447872> fella here wants to know why rules exist

[lone badger]

People come here for help for the game and some people are picky about what they do and don't see

[solid heart]

It's literally the rules that you have to stop spoilers here

We don't care how you feel about it

[lone badger]

Lmao

[solid heart]

Hi mods

[undone copper]

How about you follow channel rules instead of making a fart out of nothing

[lone badger]

Rules are rules, don't matter if ya agree with them or not

No exceptions

[undone copper]

[lone badger]

this guy

[solid heart]

Not the law, the rules. And you will receive the punishment proper by those rules. That's how the world works

[undone copper]

ah yes the rule breaker to weirdo gambit

[lone badger]

Tbf, ya already got an answer

[pseudo mason]

.

[lone badger]

Tags

[royal rapids]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[solid heart]

You wanted help and I gave you the help. You accidentally broke the rules and got told nicely, you just made a tantrum out of it

[royal rapids]

this is how you do it

[lone badger]

Yes

[jade sedge]

Do you like using ||nail arts?||

[pseudo mason]

nah

[lone badger]

Like previously stated, practically everything regarding HK here is considered spoilers, doesn't matter

[jade sedge]

What about ||spells||?

[royal rapids]

the effort required to tag is not high

[plain kettle]

Can you just like. Not be annoying and just follow the rules lmao

[royal rapids]

what’s your question

[autumn pike]

yo seriously stop making problems about something you literally start the game with

[nimble holly]

If you keep going I'm going to mute you, it's a non-negotiable thing

[lone badger]

some people just don't wanna adhere

[undone copper]

the only things you don’t have to tag are in the pins

[autumn pike]

I JUST WANT AN ANSWER 😭

[nimble holly]

We don't care

[autumn pike]

it was a bad answer

[pseudo mason]

||better than nail arts for sure but still i prefer pure nail||

[simple island]

What was the question again ?

[royal rapids]

?

[lone badger]

but it was an answer, it's not hard to follow the rules

[undone copper]

holy herodotus

[solid heart]

What do you want help with again? I got lost here lol

[undone copper]

|| trial of the fool charm advice pretty sure||

[simple island]

There are like 200 messages of BS in between now and the question

[royal rapids]

oh

[autumn pike]

what charms should i use against

[pseudo mason]

||which charms should i use on white defender||

[autumn pike]

how do i spoil

[lone badger]

||3rd trial charm recommendations||

[simple island]

for ||colo ||your main objective should be to one shot everything
So using ||nail arts and spells is a must, so you put on shaman stone and nail master glory, as for the remaining notches it depends, grubsong is amazing in colo, dreamwielder while it may seem niche can let you get back up to full soul by farming the last enemy of any given wave, mark of pride can be good, as is every other soul gathering charm (spell twister, soul catcher…) ||

[autumn pike]

.

[royal rapids]

double vertical lines around the text

[autumn pike]

|| i need charms for 3rd trial on fools thingy||

[plain kettle]

Me when I don't read the pins and command

[lone badger]

Lol

[simple island]

for ||colo ||your main objective should be to one shot everything
So using ||nail arts and spells is a must, so you put on shaman stone and nail master glory, as for the remaining notches it depends, grubsong is amazing in colo, dreamwielder while it may seem niche can let you get back up to full soul by farming the last enemy of any given wave, mark of pride can be good, as is every other soul gathering charm (spell twister, soul catcher…) ||

[pseudo mason]

ikik

[undone copper]

just use || shaman stone, nailmaster’s glory, strength, if you have trouble healing put on quick focus, soul gathering stuff is also helpful but I used dream wielder a lot as well||

[pseudo mason]

already did tak

that

sr

[royal tide]

Ñ

[autumn pike]

see guys he helped!

[jade sedge]

||Qs is a must have then. Shamans and some soul charms are great if you feel like you use spells enough, but if you want to use just nail, qf is a good option, and then MoP is fine if you like it, or just soul charms.||

[lone badger]

because you listened to the rules

[vague cloak]

Or /spoil

[lone badger]

And tagged

[vague cloak]

Also works

[autumn pike]

please leave me alone

[solid heart]

||Strength doesn't break in dreams, so you could use that instead of compass and Longnail . Otherwise his is a really solid build.||

[royal rapids]

that works?

[pseudo mason]

||what is qs?||

[lone badger]

please read the channel description next time

[royal rapids]

||yippee||

[autumn pike]

please leave me alone

[royal rapids]

huh

[jade sedge]

||Quick slash||

[undone copper]

|| quick slash||

[simple island]

You can also just select the text and right click
Which is what I do

[lone badger]

||quick slash||

[solid heart]

It's slash /spoiler and it covers the whole message

||Hi||

[royal rapids]

yeah I tested it

[solid heart]

Ah nice

[solid heart]

[lone badger]

I think it only works at the start however

[solid heart]

Yes, it's a command

[pseudo mason]

||is this good ? i will replace acompass||

[solid heart]

||steady body was perfect||

[jade sedge]

||Yeah if you like MoP a lot||

[solid heart]

But yeah

[pseudo mason]

so i will replace it

[lone badger]

Anyways, time to goes now

[pseudo mason]

i love it

[lone badger]

||MoP based||

[solid heart]

||mop|| is great

[lone badger]

[simple island]

||Mop|| bad

[lone badger]

Eh, depends on the playstyle

[pseudo mason]

||
where is white defender||

[solid heart]

No

[solid heart]

Right there

[pseudo mason]

i cant go down

[solid heart]

There's a ||breakable floor||

It just doesn't shake for some reason

[lone badger]

Yeah, it's hidden

||to find the dream||

[simple island]

Yes >:3

[pseudo mason]

here?

[lone badger]

||ddark under the platform||

[solid heart]

Right under the ||pipe||

[pseudo mason]

ok ty

[lone badger]

I think there's also some requirements to get him under there, but I'm not sure what they are

[solid heart]

||MoP my goat|| without it I'm sure I'd be stuck at 2 hits still

[simple island]

If you take a magnifying glass you may notice the floor looking a tiny bit different

[lone badger]

One of them might be having ||the acid thing, but I'm unsure||

Then again, I did try to fight him immediately after beating ||dung defender||

So it's probably based on other things

[autumn pike]

oops

ill fix it guys!

|| is quick slash mark of pride shaman stone stalwart shell good for 3rd trial on fools thingy||

see

i fixed

[neat karma]

||stalwarts not really good no||

i assume you have all charms?

[autumn pike]

pretty much other than 3

[autumn pike]

oh i thought it was what should i replace it w

[neat karma]

||i suggest putting nmg and using nailarts a lot||

[stoic cedar]

||white defender is only present in the overworld after u have killed all three dreamers||

[autumn pike]

alright i havent tried using those yet but i will ig

[lone badger]

Ah ok

[pseudo mason]

i thought he would be harder

first try

[lone badger]

Izzat tagged?

[neat karma]

it may be good to practice them a bit because ||the damage they do is very high and enemies in colo are pretty spaced apart so you usually have time to charge them, plus it oneshots a lot of enemies||

[pseudo mason]

picture is

[lone badger]

Aight

[neat karma]

adding to the ||spaced apart enemies, quickslash, while an incredible charm, wont do as much in this specific area||

[pseudo mason]

||am i ready for nightmare grimm or what should i do now||

idk

[neat karma]

||strength is always a great pick||

[lone badger]

I mean, if you're ||fully loaded out, sure why not||

[pseudo mason]

idk if i am

[lone badger]

Do ya know what you could be missing in terms of upgrades?

[pseudo mason]

||only charms and masks||

i think

||i have only 7 masks||

[lone badger]

I think you should be good with the ones you have

[lone badger]

I'd make that your next step to at least get another one

[pseudo mason]

okey

[autumn pike]

oh alright 😢

[pseudo mason]

bcs idk what i haveto do now

i have 95%

[lone badger]

Do ya know where some ||shards would be?||

[pseudo mason]

||and idk how to go for phante4ons||

[lone badger]

It's down in ||Waterways, ya need a simple key as well||

It looks like ||ya already got flukenest, so it should be around flukemarm||

Look for any breakable things near where the path to them is

[pseudo mason]

okey

[lone badger]

But I'd rec goin' for that extra ||mask||

Just to be safe

Oh also, ||what level is your nail||

[pseudo mason]

||how much masks shards i need to have 7?||

12?

[lone badger]

You start with ||5 masks, and each mask is 4, so iirc it'd be 8 mask shards for 7 masks||

And iirc there's ||16 shards in total for 4 extra masks||

[pseudo mason]

i think i only did those

idk if this is cheating but

i wouldnt find this

solo

[lone badger]

Nah, they're kinda hard to find on your own, so a spreadsheet is fine

[lone badger]

Any questions on how to get the ones you have unchecked?

[pseudo mason]

idk where should i start

[lone badger]

Hmmmmm, where are you rn?

And how close are you to your ||8th mask?||

[pseudo mason]

||i have 0 shards now||

i will go dirtmouth

[lone badger]

||So a full set||

[pseudo mason]

i think

[lone badger]

Did you already save ||bretta?||

[pseudo mason]

idk

i will go and check

[lone badger]

She would be found all the way at the ||bottom of fungal wastes, where you received the dash master charm||

Keep walking past it

I think

[pseudo mason]

she should be here?

[lone badger]

So you haven't, she's here

kinda a long trek

[pseudo mason]

i will try

[lone badger]

Aight

[pseudo mason]

to find her

[lone badger]

Lmk if ya need smt else
Ping will work best since I'll know to look here

I don't mind at all

But imma go now

[pseudo mason]

okey

ty

i do this achivemnt here?

[livid shoal]

No

[lone badger]

No, that's the ||achievement for leaving him to die at Vengefly King||

[pseudo mason]

so i should kill him normally?

[lone badger]

The one for defeating ||GPZ is another achievement||

[livid shoal]

You need a new save for that achievement

[lone badger]

Yes, just kill ||GPZ||

Then you'll get another ||achievement called 'Dark Romance' iirc||

[pseudo mason]

||i killed him in this collseum thing trail of something||

[livid shoal]

||You didn't kill him in Colo ||

[pseudo mason]

oh

[lone badger]

No, the first time you ||encounter Zote, when he's in the jaws of the Vengefly King, just leave him||

[lone badger]

Also, the left image isn't tagged I think

[livid shoal]

It is

[pseudo mason]

so i need to beat the game and leavehim alone?

[lone badger]

Yes, on another ||save file||

[pseudo mason]

i will do it in speedrun run maybe

bcs i want achivment

[livid shoal]

Best save to do it in

[lone badger]

Huh, guess I'm just dum

[pseudo mason]

but i am scared of it

[lone badger]

Why?

[livid shoal]

||V King is such a time waste in a Speedrun||

[pseudo mason]

5 hours is not a lot

my current save is 60

[lone badger]

Eh, he gives decent ||geo||

[livid shoal]

Iirc

[lone badger]

[lone badger]

What platform are you playing on?

because with PC, you could just mod it to make it easier

Like ||Hollow Point||

[livid shoal]

Imagine cheating

[pseudo mason]

pc

but i dont like modding

[livid shoal]

Peak

[pseudo mason]

without all achivemnts

[lone badger]

||speedrun achievements|| aren't that great imo, especially for people that don't like speedrunning and/or don't want to

Fortunately I have the ||speedrun achievements on my switch, so I feel no remorse using mods to get them on pc||

I did however get the ||quick completion one legitimately on pc||

Because I'm just goated

[pseudo mason]

i have 95%

in 60 hours

so i think u are

[lone badger]

Time for completion doesn't really matter imo for gauging if one is good

Just getting ||112%|| is already a massive feat, it doesn't matter if you achieved that in 30 hours, or 100 hours

[pseudo mason]

like i do all bosses in less than 20 try

||only lost kin was a problem for now||

but i am bad at explorinmg

[lone badger]

This playthrough, ||I only died once in my playthrough and it was to him, and beat him next try, but that's because I've played this game like 5 times to completion||

When resting at a ||bench, restores soul||

[pseudo mason]

i was fighting him 5 hours straight

[lone badger]

Understandable, he likes to jump onto you a lot

Kinda erratically

[pseudo mason]

i hated this random

ghosts

i cant focus

[lone badger]

With a ||strong enough nail they die in one hit||

[pseudo mason]

i beated it rly early

||i had 5 notches||

||and used dashmaster||

[lone badger]

Yeah, not recommended ||since hes a late game boss||

[pseudo mason]

||compass||

||and steady body||

so

[lone badger]

Almost ||all dream variants of bosses are meant to be fought late game||

[pseudo mason]

i didint know

[lone badger]

Fair

[pseudo mason]

and fought it same time

||like broken vessel||

then already him

[lone badger]

All these messages need tags, pls

[pseudo mason]

forgor

[lone badger]

Np, just fix them

Iirc, in the ||games progression, you're meant to get dream nail around mid to late game||

But then ||again, accessing right of the city is late game too, which is how you're meant to access ancient basin, soooo||

[pseudo mason]

so somone told me to not ask and just play

and i did it

but it was dumb

[lone badger]

I feel ||some people would have dnail by the time they fight broken vessel, get the upgrade, then see they can dnail bv and get their asses whooped||

[pseudo mason]

sizyphus

[lone badger]

HK for a first playthrough is best experienced blind

[pseudo mason]

i got it very early

[lone badger]

But going for completion around the later points a guide is recommended

[lone badger]

Like how early?

[pseudo mason]

there is no way i would do 112%

solo

[pseudo mason]

i dont remember

[lone badger]

Understandable

[pseudo mason]

||but before broken vessel||

for sure

[lone badger]

Then, I would assume you ||fell from crystal peak to land in resting grounds to get dnail before accessing the right side of city of tears from royal waterways||

[pseudo mason]

it might be like this

i cant find him

oh i got it

i think

[lone badger]

||Lower right part of resting grounds||

But, personally I would not recommend ||going for that shard yet||

[pseudo mason]

oh

[lone badger]

well, your funeral

If ya need advice, ya know how to find me

[pseudo mason]

i took it

i am cooked

where i need to take it

OH SHIT

i destroyed it

already

just tped

[lone badger]

||yep, destroys in one hit||

Do ya know where you need to take it?

[pseudo mason]

||so i cant get this mask shard anymore??||

[lone badger]

No, you still can, just talk to her again

[pseudo mason]

okey

[lone badger]

Iirc she provides you with infinite

[pseudo mason]

no

[lone badger]

||queen's gardens||

Aka, the other side of the map

see the dilemma

[pseudo mason]

so i cant take any dmg

[lone badger]

Yep

[pseudo mason]

||and cant tp and stag||

[lone badger]

Nope

[pseudo mason]

idk

[lone badger]

why I recommended to not go for it rn

[pseudo mason]

should i skip it for now?

[lone badger]

I would say so, there's plenty of other ||shards||

[pseudo mason]

i also cant ||tram?||

[lone badger]

Nuh-uh

All on foot

[pseudo mason]

i will try one time

[stoic cedar]

||tram is fine||

[pseudo mason]

is it?

[lone badger]

Well, ||tram doesn't really help as much imo||

[pseudo mason]

||i can go to crossroads with tram||

[lone badger]

You can also ||go to crossroads via blue lake||

[pseudo mason]

i forgot

[lone badger]

I can't tell, is the image tagged?

[neat karma]

Yes

Do you maybe have the setting to auto unspoiler stuff or is discord just glitching

[lone badger]

Hmmmmm, I don't know, where would that setting be?

It's mainly for images I'm unsure

[pseudo mason]

||i lost flower again im skipping it||

i wasnt here yet?

[candid phoenix]

||no eyes||?

[lone badger]

You needed ||lantern||

It was too ||dark before||

[pseudo mason]

i have it

[lone badger]

Yeah, so now ya can

[candid phoenix]

have you fought ||no eyes||

[pseudo mason]

||but i thought it will be diffrent biome like hive||

[lone badger]

Not particularly

Just a little side area

With like one or two rooms

[pseudo mason]

yes

[lone badger]

Iirc, the ||shard is all the way right in stone sanctuary||

[pseudo mason]

||near this bench?||

then full right

?

[candid phoenix]

where it says stone sanctuary

[lone badger]

Well, ||once you're in stone sanctuary, it's in a room to the right||

[pseudo mason]

i see

[lone badger]

So it's actually in the place

Not on the map

[pseudo mason]

.should be here?

[lone badger]

Hmm, looks like ya already nabbed it

[pseudo mason]

i think i did

[lone badger]

Probably got it when ya defeated her

[pseudo mason]

its her?

[lone badger]

Iirc, ||no eyes is a woman||

[pseudo mason]

its worst boss in the game

for me

i hate her

[lone badger]

Understandable

Platforming and dodging bs don't mesh well together

[lone badger]

like a few certain other bosses I won't mention

Ye

[pseudo mason]

||so there is a mask to||

i need to check if i took it

[lone badger]

Yes, it's ||accessible from the bottom right||

It's a ||mini-platforming section, but you should be able to see if you've grabbed it||

From the other side of where it's locked

[pseudo mason]

also took it

before

so i checked something wron

g

on list

[lone badger]

Mayhaps

[pseudo mason]

8 or 9 is a max?

[lone badger]

||9 masks is the max without charms||

It was ||originally 8 iirc, but another 4 shards got added in the updates||

[pseudo mason]

||i have 7 and 1 shard now and 5 on list||

i did something wrong

[lone badger]

Hmmm, odd

[pseudo mason]

on list

||where is mask in hive?||

[lone badger]

Iirc ||it's in one of the main rooms where you need to have the big bee break the wall to it||

I think it's in one of the higher bigger rooms

I can't recall exactly what room

[pseudo mason]

okey i will try

[lone badger]

But you do need the ||huge bee's help||

That ||little alcove right beside the main platform is his weakness||

Basically, just ||stand under there when he screeches and runs at you||

And you can get a good hit in or two

But when he goes to the ||ceiling, you need to move away, but then you can go back to it again if there's no infectious blobs lingering||

They don't linger too long however

[pseudo mason]

is there a crack on wall?

[lone badger]

I believe so, you should also be able to hear it, but it's a little quiet

It gets louder the ||closer you are, and it's on a left wall||

[pseudo mason]

xD

||i had this wall already destroyed but i skipped it somehow ||

[lone badger]

lol

[lone badger]

So that's ||2 of the 4 now?||

[pseudo mason]

YES

yes

[lone badger]

Noice

[pseudo mason]

i think i didint took this one yet

[lone badger]

Hmm, well the ||one from bretta will be a third, and I guess that one can be your fourth ||

[pseudo mason]

i have ||bretta||

already

[lone badger]

Iirc, you needed ||wings to get to it, it should be right of where cornifer was||

[lone badger]

Did you go back to her house in ||Dirtmouth?||

[pseudo mason]

yes

||and took mask shatd||

[lone badger]

So that's ||3 or still 2?||

[pseudo mason]

2

[lone badger]

Ah

[pseudo mason]

i didint took 3 yet

[lone badger]

Hmmm, did you ||already get the one in deepnest, near fungal wastes?||

[pseudo mason]

idk

i will check

[pseudo mason]

this one first

[lone badger]

.

[pseudo mason]

its on right of boss?

[pseudo mason]

||who is cornifer||

[lone badger]

Try under the ||hotspring||

[lone badger]

The ||map guy||

Where you buy your ||maps from||

[pseudo mason]

idk where he is now

[lone badger]

Well, where he was

There should be a ||little tape where he originally was||

Iirc, he was ||originally in the room below the giant vertical room||

[lone badger]

But I would try searching the area below the ||hotspring||

[pseudo mason]

...

[lone badger]

Which would be the ||pink pin on your map||

[pseudo mason]

||where is hotspring||

[lone badger]

.

[pseudo mason]

i will go here

[lone badger]

Alright, now for this one I'm not too sure of the ||exact room, but it should be a horizontal room on your map||

And look for a place to ||double jump to||

[stoic cedar]

terrible

[pseudo mason]

i got it

[lone badger]

Well, your ||minions will be doing most of the work||

[lone badger]

Very noice

[pseudo mason]

one more and i have 8

camp under this

[lone badger]

Stay ||close to the platform in the middle||

Like hug it

When ||he's running at you, he will not hit you if you are directly next to the platform in the middle||

But for his ||jump and infection spray attacks, he may be able to hit you if he's precise||

Also, if he goes on the ||ceiling, go away from it for a brief time to dodge the blobs he drops, then quickly retreat back to the side of the platform if there's no blobs lingering||

||Grimm child can also still attack him when he's on the ceiling iirc||

And you can ||gather a bit more soul from the weaverlings when they hit him if you need to heal||

[pseudo mason]

||i found cornifer where should i go||

[lone badger]

Since you have ||grubsong paired with weaversong||

[lone badger]

You likely have ||already bought the map for that place, but if you haven't, you can purchase it at iselda's shop in dirtmouth||

Np!

[pseudo mason]

i have all maps

||but u told me about mask shard near him?||

[lone badger]

That was what I was referring to, you grabbed it just now

Also, I'm not sure if the image is tagged, i could just be dumb

Hmmm, then I might have that setting on that auto unmarks it

[pseudo mason]

it tagged

[lone badger]

idk where that setting'd be?

[pseudo mason]

mask was here?

[lone badger]

Do you happen to know where that setting is by any chance? Im not sure if I have it on or not

[lone badger]

Yes

[pseudo mason]

so i got it before to

[lone badger]

Indeed

[lone badger]

Hmm, looking at this ||picture, it seems like you already have 8 masks||

[pseudo mason]

||i will go to royal waterways||

UH

IM DUMB

[stoic cedar]

there is a setting that auto unspoilers but im fairly certain its for all messages, not just images. so it might just be some weird glitch

[pseudo mason]

I CANT COUNT

[lone badger]

Lmao

[pseudo mason]

so there is only one left?

||with flower?||

[lone badger]

Iirc

Unless you have ||fragile heart on currently||

Do you?

[pseudo mason]

i have this charm

but not on me

[lone badger]

Alright, so yeah, that should be the last one

[lone badger]

If ya wanna attempt it, go for it, but if not you could save it for later

[pseudo mason]

i will try

i want achivment

[lone badger]

It does count as a ||percent however, so if you're going for 112%, you need it||

[lone badger]

||Very big tip, most enemies do not respawn unless sitting at a bench, so what I'd recommend is to set a dreamgate in front of her house, then try and see how far you get and kill anything you stumble across in your way, and if it breaks, continue in your path killing everything until you get to where it is. Then dreamgate back to her house and try again, this time it will be easier since most enemies will already be dead. The only enemies that respawn are small enemies like little flying critters||

And do not sit at a ||bench, otherwise everyone will respawn||

[frail musk]

I can’t get past these even with ||Dashmaster|| and the ||Crystal Heart|| 😭.

[neat karma]

||dash when it starts going up, so practically when it slams to the ground||

[lone badger]

Hmmm, not exactly sure how to help with that, some have faster timings than others

[lone badger]

But yeah, as they're ending ||their smash to the ground would be a good time to go||

[frail musk]

I have noticed this too 😭

[lone badger]

Just timing essentially

which I struggle with too, dw

[pseudo mason]

||where i need to go in queens garden?||

[lone badger]

Iirc, it's the room ||right above the stag station||

||Or fairly close above it||

Essentially, it's a ||dead end room above the stag station||

[pseudo mason]

lost again

[lone badger]

That kinda looks like a ||half circle where it ends||

[pseudo mason]

i see now

[neat karma]

please use spoiler tags for all ingame content in this chat

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

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[light rapids]

Oh okay my bad

[lone badger]

indeed, tags are a must here

[lone badger]

So this is the command for it, I'll have to rember that

[light rapids]

Anybody know where a spare ||simple key|| is so I can unlock ||godhome||?

That work?

[frail musk]

I made it. Tysm lol 😭.

[lone badger]

Depends on what ||keys ya already got, have you already gotten the one in Kingdoms edge?||

[light rapids]

I don't think so

[lone badger]

Then that'd probably be a spare to nab

[light rapids]

I've bought out ||sly||

[lone badger]

Head over to the ||"arena"||

[light rapids]

?

[lone badger]

The place for ||combat sitting high atop Kingdom's Edge||

||specifically the Colisseum||

Then, once there, ||head to the back||

[light rapids]

All the ||charms|| I have right now

[lone badger]

Is there any in particular you want?

[light rapids]

Eh idk

[lone badger]

Because most can be found by just exploring

[light rapids]

I don't know any of the other charms I don't have except for ||grubberflys elegy||

[lone badger]

Well, what I'd recommend is to just explore any corners of the ||map that ya haven't||

You're bound to find at least half of the things you're missing

Is there anywhere in specific ya wanna go?

[light rapids]

Well that was a bizarre experience

[lone badger]

Indeed

||'lil gremlino||

[lone badger]

Well, now ya got it, right?

Before heading over ||tho, I'd recommend exploring the rest of the map for goodies and whatnot||

[light rapids]

Yep

[lone badger]

Because ||godhome is considered a very late game area, practically postgame with very hard fights and challenges||

So, I'd recommend preparing beforehand

Those are ||bindings, specific restrictions placed on the Knight||

[light rapids]

The only areas I can see I'm missing are ||northwest queens gardens, southeast deepnest, and southeast crystal peaks||

[lone badger]

||There's four of them
Nail, which limits your nail to 80% of its base damage, capping at a measily 13 damage
Charm, which limits any charms you use, where you can't use any
Shell, which limits your health to half of its max, capping at 4 masks if you have the full 9
And soul, which limits your soul gauge to only one spell at a time||

[light rapids]

Okay if there's ||9 masks, then I'm missing 6 fragments||

[lone badger]

So you have ||7 masks, 2 away from an 8th, and still 4 more?||

[light rapids]

Yeah

And I still need to fight ||crystal guardian and brooding mawlek||

[lone badger]

||ironically both those give a mask shard||

Well, ||a similar fight to crystal guardian||

[pseudo mason]

FINNALY

[lone badger]

[pseudo mason]

wth

i did 13 achivments today

[lone badger]

Very gud

[light rapids]

I found some ||crystallized mound|| place

I assume it's for a ||spell upgrade ||

I have ||all three spells but only VS is upgraded to SS||

Dang I just ||lost 8k geo||

[lone badger]

How?

||Dying after already dying?||

[light rapids]

Yep

I've lost like a total of ||30k geo|| that way

I remember why I left ||crystal peaks|| so early now

Okay ||descending dark|| and ||one grub|| acquired

[thin plover]

||dream warrior in fungal||

[south cobalt]

hello can i ask a question?

[tranquil oriole]

go for it

[pliant mural]

shit

guys i think i really messed up

[south cobalt]

what did u do?

[pliant mural]

|| so my fragile strength broke and i cant equip it to make it unbreakable, do i just not get to have unbreakable now? ||

[south cobalt]

no u have to go back ||repair it then make it unbreakable||

[pliant mural]

|| who do i repair it with? ||

[south cobalt]

to the guy u bought it from

[pliant mural]

oh thank god

ok

also

|| im doing grim stuff before i fight radiance ||

[tawdry yew]

you can ||keep playing after any ending ✅ the game brings you to a nearby bench when you reload the save||

[south cobalt]

its never perma but make it ||unbreakable it will save u so much geo

ok ty

[glossy shell]

|| You will suffer at nkg ||

[south cobalt]

im bout to fight him

[pliant mural]

|| i heard there is a choice i have to make, like banish or finish the ritual. this is my first playthru blind and i wanna make the right choice so which one do i choose? ||

[pliant mural]

no idea what that is but im sure ill figure it out soon enough

[tawdry yew]

theres no right or wrong option

[south cobalt]

u can always do both

[pliant mural]

|| it doesnt lock me out if i choose one over the other? ||

[south cobalt]

right?

[tawdry yew]

it does

[pliant mural]

on the same save file?

[glossy shell]

|| There is no right, i decided to fight him but i regret it because now i am doomed because one of the npcs is evil and he cant get saved. I regret that a lot since you can fight the true form of grimm anyways so ur not missing out on anything imo, i wouldve rather banished him ||

[glossy shell]

No

[south cobalt]

yeah pretty sure

oh

[glossy shell]

U cant

You need a new save file

[south cobalt]

u can do it with ||thk||

ok i wont be responding im finna fight him

[pliant mural]

ok well i have no idea what ill do

but

ig ill flip a coin or some shit lol

[glossy shell]

|| Thk has multiple like variants of his fight thats why i think ||

[neat karma]

See it this way, ||do you wanna do a bossfight or not, thats all it is||

[glossy shell]

|| Id recommend u banish him imo ||

[glossy shell]

|| U can fight the boss fight anyways ||

[pliant mural]

oka

[glossy shell]

|| hog ||

[neat karma]

Yeah ||but not until much later||

[pliant mural]

oh

well

i probably || wanna do the boss since im tryin to 100% ||

like all steam achivements

[tawdry yew]

but if you're going for all acheivements ||you need a minimum of 2 saves anyway|| (does this need to be spoilered)

[pliant mural]

lol no

it doesnt

or

[neat karma]

Technically ||both paths give you a different charm but they suck so that shouldnt affect the descision||

[pliant mural]

i dont think

ik i gotta do || steel soul ||

[glossy shell]

But ur losing out on more content if u decide not to ||banish ||them

[neat karma]

||both routes give %||

[pliant mural]

plus the || speedrunning one ||

[neat karma]

No? Also tags

[pliant mural]

so actually || 3 saves ||

[light rapids]

Do ||112%||

[glossy shell]

What was the spoiler

[pliant mural]

i am!

well i have to

[neat karma]

||literally banishment||

[pliant mural]

if i wanna 100%

according to steam

[light rapids]

Nice

[south cobalt]

btw the technical ending of the game dont even count towards ||112%||

[pliant mural]

since its an achivement

so far i have like 40 hours

should i || do radiance first then the grim content? ||

[tawdry yew]

you can do speedrun + ||steel soul|| simultaneously if youre feeling up to it

[pliant mural]

jesus that sounds insane

[glossy shell]

|| I thought its allowed since it's a english word that can be used many times but wtv. Anyways, if u banish the grimm troupe on 1 save file you can still fight nkg on that same file, if u decide NOT to banish them then you cant save brumm no matter what on that file||

[pliant mural]

too much probably

[tawdry yew]

its not thaaat rough i dont think

i did it

[pliant mural]

well

[neat karma]

||spell is also an english word||,,

[pliant mural]

did you do the strat where

[glossy shell]

|| Nkg was too hard for me so i did radiance then i did him ||

[pliant mural]

|| you leave the game before you die ||

[pliant mural]

oka then ill just do that

dang

[tawdry yew]

im no POSER.

[pliant mural]

fair lol

[neat karma]

||Wouldnt really call that missing content but eitherway theyre going to do a second playthrough so having this look like a bigger thing that it is isnt really helping||

[pliant mural]

|| steel soul scares the shit outta me, i have died so many times man ||

ik its my first playthru but still

[glossy shell]

|| Give it a shot if u want then make up ur mind, i just couldnt do it tho it took me like 3 hours just for phase 2 so i called it a day, did radiance then came back to him ||

[tawdry yew]

you gotta plan ahead

and pick your battles wisely

[neat karma]

This^

[pliant mural]

def

[glossy shell]

|| Well it is still objective that you would miss out on more content if u decide to banish them for 1 playthrough ||

[neat karma]

Both ||steelsoul|| and the speedrunning achievements become a cakewalk if you know what youre doing and where youre going

You should have most if not all of the route planned ahead

[pliant mural]

is there maybe a guide to help?

[neat karma]

there is one but i dont have it in hand rn and it probably has spoilers so

[pliant mural]

oh yea i wont check it out now

cause

first save file

[neat karma]

yes but youre making it seem like it is significant content

[pliant mural]

to get the achivement

[light rapids]

Currently I'm ||85%|| and I'm tryna ||beat enraged gaurdian||

[neat karma]

when its quite literally just ||talking to one npc||

[glossy shell]

|| dunno if I am, all im saying is that if you banish them your losing out on more content ||

[pliant mural]

oka well ima go do the stuff!

[neat karma]

||eitherway youd be missing on content eitherway because of the grimmkin flames and grimmchild||

[pliant mural]

so just to clarifiy before i leave

|| DONT banish grim or you cant do the boss for 112% ||

[tawdry yew]

can i see your inventory pretty please

[neat karma]

so i wouldnt really classify it as more

[light rapids]

||oh I think I know the ending you mean||

[tawdry yew]

you can get hundo either way

[neat karma]

again ||both paths give percentage||

its ||a matter of whether or not you wanna fight||

[glossy shell]

|| Grimmkin flames have no other significance apart from fighting nkg(and the grimmchild charm but lets be fr no ones using that), if you banish them u can still fight nkg ||

[pliant mural]

i feel like i kinda have toooo no?

like for ||true 112%||

[neat karma]

i can say the exact same thing
||brumm has no other significant because its like 3 text boxes, and the other charm also fucking sucks||

[tawdry yew]

i would on your first playthrough but thats just me

[neat karma]

so idk what youre getting at???

[neat karma]

all on you, both count

[pliant mural]

ima do it

[neat karma]

good luck!

[pliant mural]

whats the worst that can happen!!!!

[neat karma]

landmine

idk im unoriginal

[glossy shell]

|| Would you rather lose out on npcs to fight a boss(that you can fight anyways) or just save the npc and fight the boss later||

[tawdry yew]

the great cataclysm

hellfire shall rain from the skies

[neat karma]

why are you making this such a big deal its literally the exact same thing

[tawdry yew]

and it shall be YOUR doing

[neat karma]

youre quite clearly trying to influence one way

[glossy shell]

|| No duh i am i literally told him i recommend banishing the troupe ||

[neat karma]

yes, except that should be their choice?

[glossy shell]

|| They asked should i banish the troupe or fight them ||

[south cobalt]

ez dubsky

[neat karma]

were in this channel to inform and help not play the game for them

[glossy shell]

|| I gave my answer||

[neat karma]

so when someone gives clear information on both sides why are you acting like its a massive deal and that they should pick your option

[glossy shell]

||You're acting like I forced them to banish the troupe, they asked should I banish them or keep them so I replied by explaining why I'd rather banish the troupe. It's not that hard to understand? ||

[tawdry yew]

why is this an argument

c-cant we all just be pals...?

[neat karma]

yeah this is an stupid argument at this point

[glossy shell]

.

[neat karma]

yeah and then you- this convo is pointless

they already made the choice eitherway theres no need to continue it

[tawdry yew]

so hollow knight am i right guys

[neat karma]

no

[glossy shell]

yeaa but the convo shifted from || if they should banish to did i force them to banish them or not ||

[neat karma]

hop on an actually good game like mong

[tawdry yew]

any NEW players? anybody need HELP?

[south cobalt]

ummmm i could use some

[neat karma]

what point of this convo is pointless did you not get

we could spend all night trying to prove our point to each other and we still wouldnt get anywhere

[tawdry yew]

lay it on me dude

im all ears

[south cobalt]

||how to get to water ways?||

[glossy shell]

Because you're projecting that i forced the guy's option

[neat karma]

i fear youre not listening

[glossy shell]

|| You need the simple key, go to the city of tears near the hollow knight statue and you can use it to open a sewer iirc ||

[south cobalt]

ido have it but i doesnt let me open it

[tawdry yew]

hmm

[south cobalt]

ill send a pic

[tawdry yew]

show your inventory real quick?

[tawdry yew]

yeah please

[glossy shell]

U sure ur in the right spot?

[south cobalt]

yes but the things are not in my inventory ill show ||slys shop||

[neat karma]

what

[tawdry yew]

unsure

[neat karma]

hows this supposed to relate sorry i just dont get it

[south cobalt]

||to waterways i need the simple key||

[neat karma]

||no, a simple key, theres more than one||

[tawdry yew]

there are multiple ||simple keys||

[neat karma]

||sly happens to sell one of them, the others youve gotta find around the world||

[glossy shell]

|| What does sly's shop have to do with the simple key, you said you already have a simple key ||

|| You probably used it up and need to find another one ||

[south cobalt]

yeah i bought it but its not in my inventory

[glossy shell]

Because u used it

[neat karma]

then you used it

[south cobalt]

i cant remember what i used it on

[glossy shell]

once its used its gone and u need another one

[south cobalt]

how do i get more?

[neat karma]

welp ||the point is that you did and need another one||

[glossy shell]

explore

there hidden around the map

[neat karma]

there is one in the ||city storerooms, go to the stag labeled that and head down to the big room with floating platforms and flying enemies||

[south cobalt]

ty

[neat karma]

one of the ||"balconies" on the right has it||

[tawdry yew]

the top one i believe

[south cobalt]

ty yall

[tawdry yew]

no problem

this is what the channel is for

gl!!

[south cobalt]

yeah ik a lot of ppl say explore you will find it but i rlly dont have to worry about spoilers i get it for other ppl but i alr know everything

[light rapids]

Any tips on ||enraged gaurdian||?

[south cobalt]

||crystal?||

[tawdry yew]

can i have a peek at your inventory pleaseee

[light rapids]

||if I say more it's a spoiler||

[south cobalt]

dude i physically dont care

[light rapids]

I have an image of my ||charms||

[south cobalt]

for ss yeah ill avoid spoilers but all this i alr know everything

[shut sparrow]

can you also send one of your inventory?

[light rapids]

||when you beat crystal gaurdian there's a second fight of a more powerful gaurdian above it||

[south cobalt]

oh ok

[hexed basalt]

Tell me, do you prefer using your nail or spell more?

[light rapids]

Nail

[glossy shell]

|| For charms i usually use a nail build and just slap him around with my nail and when he is about to shoot a beam at me i jump up before it turns fully orange(double jump if needed) and then repeat, i just tank the hits where he has like 4 vertical beams||

[light rapids]

Spells mess up my rhythm

[hexed basalt]

||Alr bc I was gonna suggest Shaman Stone-||

[light rapids]

||spoiler that||

[hexed basalt]

Mb mb

[shut sparrow]

||the only good one there is qslash. I recommend adding steady body, shaman stone and spell twister/soul catcher.
You want to use dive whenever he spawns the lasers from the ceiling. Other than that just spam nail and dash over his head whenever he attacks normally.
If you want you can also dive whenever he jumps around for safety. Generally spells are super strong and your best friends here||

[south cobalt]

oh for ||cryastal guardian i just tried to get aruond ang grind hits so maybe sharp shadow could help||

[tawdry yew]

i would swap out ||dashmaster and sprintmaster for shaman stone||

cuz its good

[light rapids]

||currently I'm using QS+MoP+SB||

[shut sparrow]

please tag ||spells||. And that's because you're not used to them. Your rhythm doesn't seem to be helping you rn anyway and it's good to learn them as early on as possible

[hexed basalt]

||They already said that they prefer using they’re nail, soooo-||

[shut sparrow]

yeah ||Mop is bad. Use shaman instead. Also don't you have 2 notches left then?||

[shut sparrow]

that doesn't matter

[hexed basalt]

Well sorry for trying to prove a point anymore (trying not to start an argument or anything)

[glossy shell]

|| For you, a nail build I'd recommend quick slash, mark of pride, steady body, and perhaps long nail or some random 1 notch charms ||

[light rapids]

||I'm using another charm I forgot the name||

[shut sparrow]

there is no argument here

[tawdry yew]

||spells|| are sadly cracked and preference doesnt really come into play

[light rapids]

||that's literally the build I'm using rn||

[hexed basalt]

I said trying not to start one

[glossy shell]

|| You have dashmaster and sprintmaster on ||