hk-help

[kind plinth]

You have to go up and find him

His body was moved

[pseudo mason]

||wth is this boss ||

my eyes are to slow

[acoustic sigil]

It's ?tag spoilers btw

[pallid comet]

[pseudo mason]

||why i dont get any soul after hitrting failed champ||

[sinful vortex]

||any tips for colosseum of fools? here are my current charms, rn im on trial of the conqueror||

[pseudo mason]

||why every one have 3 times more notches than me how did i skip that much of them||

[zealous bear]

Spoiler tag erm

[spring pollen]

how?

[pseudo mason]

is this norma;

normal?

[sinful vortex]

yall

[zealous bear]

Yes

Play the fight

You're asking without even having done anything

[jade sedge]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

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[zinc verge]

thats a pretty peak build
it would be absolute cinema if you replaced ||grubsong|| with another charm which you will get for collecting enough ||essence||

[sinful vortex]

alr

[languid radish]

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[simple island]

(There is an ‘s’ at the end)

[languid radish]

No tag spoiler found.

[simple island]

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[short kettle]

Send a bigger picture?

Okay

[median hornet]

i can't hit ||markoth after he goes two shields||

[short kettle]

||Spells. Save up your soul for phase 2 and use spells then. Apart from that, use dash slash and go in only when he is spinning his shields.||

[median hornet]

||dash slash?||

and why are|| nails spawning somewhere i can't see||

[short kettle]

Send a pic of the first page of your inventory?

[median hornet]

OHHH I GET IT

||nail art||

[short kettle]

Yeah. How many do you have?

[median hornet]

all three

sry i didn't realise that at first

like

the name

[short kettle]

Great. Since you can't hit him often, ||nail arts are very good against him.||

[median hornet]

okie I'll try that
thanks!

[short kettle]

It will let you use a ||spell|| build without losing on nail damage as well.

[radiant raft]

||Fight a boss, get a charm, get a whispering root and I think get a vessel or mask fragment. Oh yeah and a grubby||

[kind plinth]

And also admire all the lovely world building

[pseudo mason]

any tips on ||failed champ||?

my current|| charms||

[shut sparrow]

||compass of course is useless. Mark of pride can help but strength is a ways better option||

for ||compass I'd use dream wielder||

make sure you ||use dream nail when he's staggered on his armor||

[short kettle]

Basic tips: ||He never does the same attack more than 3 times in a row. You can hit the rocks that fall and they will hit him. Use your dream nail often and farm soul, especially when he's staggered.||

Exploit: ||You can farm him for unlimited soul each time he gets staggered. Hitting his armor resets the stagger so you can hit the armor (not the head), use dream nail and repeat until you're at max health and soul. May or may not be considered cheating but it's there.||

[pseudo mason]

this one?

[shut sparrow]

yes

[pseudo mason]

i wont lose it?

[shut sparrow]

not on ||dream bosses||

[pseudo mason]

so i should use ||dream nail||

a lot

?

[shut sparrow]

yes when he's staggered

so when he falls down

[pseudo mason]

okey

bcs i didint know what to do when he is on the ground

i could heal 1 times

only

[shut sparrow]

remember to ||hit his head though since otherwise he will stand up again and you'll have to do the whole phase again / the one you did didn't count||

[short kettle]

||You're supposed to hit his head as well or the fight wont progress.||

[pseudo mason]

so the exploit is a bug

or a game mechanic

[short kettle]

Bug I'd say.

[pseudo mason]

so i think i wont use it

maybe in next playtrought

i want to do first one legitly

but asking here even feels like cheating for me

and should i get more|| notches?||

bcs everyone have 10 of them

[short kettle]

How many you got

[pseudo mason]

5

[short kettle]

Yeah, what the hell lmao

[pseudo mason]

i dont know

[short kettle]

That's pretty low

[pseudo mason]

how i skiped

that much of them

[short kettle]

Go to ||Salubra's shop in crossroads and buy some. You seem to have enough charms.||

[pseudo mason]

i think i already

have

all from him

i will check on wiki

[short kettle]

Nope

She has like 5 by herself

[pseudo mason]

i was thinking abiut

this|| fdirtmouth|| guy

[short kettle]

Go to bottom right corner of ||crossroads.||

There are more but I don't wanna spoil locations you might not have visited.

[pseudo mason]

that make sens

[short kettle]

Get ||Shaman Stone|| as well if you haven't.

[pseudo mason]

i dont have it

so i will also get it

i forgot about her

i was here last time like 40h ago

of gameplay

[short kettle]

Spoiler tags.

[fiery void]

Oh my bad

||you would have to go to the hive and unlock a shortcut i believe||

||and you unlock hive through a breakable wall||

[pseudo mason]

is this good for him now?

i mean ||||failed champ||

[short kettle]

Yep. ||Though depending on the areas you've explored so far, there's more to get.||

But that can definitely do the job.

[pseudo mason]

this is my map

[pallid comet]

Who you fighting?

[pseudo mason]

||failed champion||

[pallid comet]

ptsd

First one i fought and he was overwhelmingly fast

[short kettle]

There's a ||charm notch in Fog Canyon and there's a broken charm in kingdom's edge. Both free.||

[pallid comet]

||what broken charm?||

[short kettle]

That charm will immensely help with ||Failed Champion||.

[short kettle]

||Quick Slash||

[pallid comet]

Oh yea that one

[pseudo mason]

where should i look

[pallid comet]

Far right

Very far right

[pseudo mason]

i was everywhere in|| kingdom egde||

[pallid comet]

Did you got the dummy?

[pseudo mason]

idk

[pallid comet]

Gimme a second to check

[short kettle]

See the bench in bottom right. ||There's a lot more to explore there by breaking the breakable floor.||

[pseudo mason]

oh

[pallid comet]

Yep

Best charm in the game in my opinion

[pseudo mason]

so i shoul dget this charm before him?

[short kettle]

Go and explore all that area. Look out for more ||breakable floors and walls|| along the way. You might some good resources.

[pallid comet]

Yesss

[pseudo mason]

oki

[short kettle]

It will help immensely but you can do it without it too. Your call.

[pseudo mason]

so i will do it

if its that good

[obtuse lark]

Okay, so I've challenged ||Nightmare King Grimm|| a total of three times, and each time I don't even make it past the first pattern. Is there something I'm doing wrong or something? I also suck very badly at dodging

[pseudo mason]

is ||soul tyrnt|| hard?

[pallid comet]

Just faster

Way faster

[pseudo mason]

so still easy?

[pallid comet]

But there is plenty of time to react

[hoary summit]

Yeah pretty much

[pallid comet]

Kinda yea

[hoary summit]

The pattern is easy

[obtuse lark]

For me he was, if you need to heal, just wait until he does ||the thing with all the floating stuff around him. Let it pass and sneak in a heal||

[pallid comet]

But ||spell|| builds are worthless against him

[pseudo mason]

||i will kill him before failed champ i thinl||

think

[pallid comet]

Still you want ||qslash||

[pseudo mason]

im going for it

rn

[pallid comet]

And get ||mop||
You dont certainly need them to beat him
But it make it faster

[obtuse lark]

What charms do you have rn?

[short kettle]

He's one of the endgame fights, you won't not struggle. ||Expect to lose multiple times. His attacks need very fast reaction speed and there's not a lot of room to attack until you're way more used to him. Focus on attacking him during the fire bats and the flame pillars attack.||

[pseudo mason]

what is it

[pallid comet]

||mark of pride||

[obtuse lark]

Yeah, I forget about getting the positioning right for the ||flame pillars|| and I panic with the ||birds||

[hoary summit]

||bro get the other fragment||

[obtuse lark]

That looks like a solid build already tho

[pallid comet]

||nkg is peak||

[pallid comet]

Not at all

[solid heart]

Yes it is

[hoary summit]

Its not that bad

[obtuse lark]

I used ||fragile strength, grubsong, quick slash, mop|| I can't remember which other I used, maybe I didn't

[pallid comet]

Oh wait yea that ||strength||
Iam not used to it looking like that

Mb

[short kettle]

||Jump over the first one and dash for the bats. Dont jump too quick, dont dash too quick. If you can get yourself used to charging nail arts, use dash slash with that dash helps a lot.

As for the pillars, just move bit by bit. Its really, really easy once you realise there's nothing to panic. Adjust your steps accordingly so that the 4th pillar is under him and then you can get in 2-3 hits from the other side.||

[pseudo mason]

||i will get quick slash and fight him||

[short kettle]

And a ||notch|| too if you can. It will give you the perfect build.

[pseudo mason]

like one more?

[obtuse lark]

Do that and you're set broski

[pseudo mason]

slot

[short kettle]

Yeah.

[pallid comet]

Does ||fury buff only work when you have 1 mask left?||

[obtuse lark]

So don't use ||dashmaster||?

[short kettle]

Yeah

[pallid comet]

Damn

[pallid comet]

Never

[pseudo mason]

i need 2 more?

[obtuse lark]

I'm pretty sure that's called a glass cannon build? Or something

[pallid comet]

Yes

[short kettle]

No. Here's a better suggestion: don't use it ever unless you're just roaming around a fully completed save file lol

[pallid comet]

Yea something like that

[obtuse lark]

Oh, okay 😕

[pseudo mason]

so i need to check this locations bcs i dont remember if i took the shards

[pallid comet]

Never use ||dream shield,dashmaster, heavyblow||

[obtuse lark]

Which charms would be best suited to this fight? I still be panicking

And ||two of my notches are holding Grimmchild||

[pallid comet]

I can tell you a build for panicking

It's bad for experienced players

[obtuse lark]

I love panicking. Panicking is my favorite

[short kettle]

||Mark Of Pride, Strength, Quickslash, Grimmchild. Quickslash can be swapped for Shaman Stone if you're using spells.||

[pallid comet]

||strength,sharp shadow soul eater||

[obtuse lark]

I've won a total of like seven fights by panicking

[pallid comet]

And maybe ||long nail||

[pallid comet]

That got me through him

Idk how

[short kettle]

Eh, ||eater|| is unnecessary unless you're doing a ||spell|| build which you're not.

Def not worth 4 whole ||notches||.

[obtuse lark]

Oof, don't mention||ss|| around here, people get mad fsr

[short kettle]

Right?

[obtuse lark]

I'm thinking about yesterday, bros were triggered

[pallid comet]

It definitely aint good here
But i took it cause sometimes i get too afraid to hit em and therefore i have no soul for healing
So i hit em twice then heal
It's only purpose here is for 1hit a time

[pallid comet]

Whats that

||sharp shadow?||

[obtuse lark]

The only time I think I would use a spell is ||abyss shriek|| when he does that freaking||flame pillars Attack||

[obtuse lark]

Yes

Oh shit, here they come

[shut sparrow]

||it's normal to have no clue what ur doing even after 30 attempts. After 3 you don't even know the attacks yet so focus on that for now. Slowly but surely you're gonna learn what attack he's doing and how to dodge it||

[pallid comet]

Took me 2 days to beat

Probably the most boss i died too

[obtuse lark]

Yeah, I get that. I try to remember the pattern, then start panicking, which I'm the best at

[short kettle]

Yeah, that's usually the moment.

[shut sparrow]

||make sure you try implementing healing once you know the attacks though. Good attacks to heal on are the flame pillars and the fire bats||

please tag ||p4||

[obtuse lark]

I don't wanna hear about any bosses from the future, let me panic over one at a time please

[pallid comet]

Yea you can heal more than you can heal at||grimm troupe||btw

[shut sparrow]

you can heal on every attack for both

[short kettle]

When you reach further than you have before, it's easy to panic more. ||Pause the game and remind yourself that he does not get new attacks between phases. It's all the shit you know and you just have to keep up that same momentum.||

[obtuse lark]

I actually had fun with his fight

[obtuse lark]

Ah yes, pattern memorization.

[pallid comet]

Idk why i struggled to heal against the normal one
But healed alot against the red bastard

To be fair it was hardly a competition again the normal one

[obtuse lark]

The only time I healed was with the ||spike attacks|| I healed one mask at a time

But this mf rn is killing me double speed 😭

[pallid comet]

You can heal through the ||uppercut
Flame pillars
Spikes||

||Uppercut|| is hard for me tbh

[shut sparrow]

please tag attack names

[shut sparrow]

you can heal on any attack. ||uppercut, spikes and especially dash are harder to do consistently tho||

[pallid comet]

How is this even a spoiler btw
Attacks don't spoiler a boss

[shut sparrow]

it's the rules

[obtuse lark]

Literally mentioning the bare minimum still needs tags

[pallid comet]

The||dash drill attack aint worth healing from you can pogo him for good dmg||

[pallid comet]

Not rly

[obtuse lark]

If it's not basic common knowledge, you have to tag it I think

[shut sparrow]

||you can deal good damage on any attack. That doesn't make healing not worth it||

[shut sparrow]

it does

[obtuse lark]

Alright, I'm about to challenge him again, let's see if I can get a bit farther

[pallid comet]

[obtuse lark]

At least I get to get my glasses replaced today with a new prescription

I'll only be half blind this time

Lmfao

[pallid comet]

Btw weird advice
But when you lose too much against him just. Lose the game and try later
The first day I didn't even bring him to phase 1
Day 2 i won

On the 3rd try

[shut sparrow]

Don't be disappointed if you don't. The process of learning this fight is a long one so really just do attempts and practice the fight itself for like 30 minutes to an hour before you start really focusing on specific things

[obtuse lark]

Yeah, I find myself getting overwhelmed easy, so if I keep losing, I just switch to another game, cool my jets, and then try again. I had to do that with ||white defender||

Even though looking back, that fight was easy as hell 🤣

[pallid comet]

I haven't even fought the mf yet

Now you reminded me

[whole tangle]

henlo, can u share|| how to access acient basil?

i opened the doors in kingstation.

i also opened royal wasteland.||

||i need trampass right?

why is it so hard to get monarch wings||

[obtuse lark]

Can't you fight him like ||five times||?

[pallid comet]

Yea

That's what i heard

[obtuse lark]

I only fought once 😭

[short kettle]

||There's a way from city to tears, you don't need tram pass.||

You'll see a sign, ||and a path going down if you travel along the ground in the city.||

[obtuse lark]

Wait a minute, I'm still taking damage when ||I dash through him with shade cloak||? Is that just a me thing, or am I not timing it right?

[pallid comet]

He leave ||fire trail when he dash||

And maybe your ||sdash is in cd||

And you didn't notice

[lone badger]

||ya know, idk if I'm just stupid, but does dnail length increase with nail length increase charms or no?||

[short kettle]

No

[lone badger]

Because ||I had either MoP or Lnail and I coulda sworn it was longer||

[pallid comet]

You're tripping

[whole tangle]

thanks

[pallid comet]

Its impossible to increase its length

[obtuse lark]

Okay, I died two more times, but it's okay, cause I kind of lasted a bit more

[pallid comet]

Did you reach phase 2

[fair pike]

||does anyone have a good charm set for beating pantheon 3?||

I keep dying

[short kettle]

Spoiler tags.

||Mark of pride, quick slash, fragile strength, nailmaster's glory, dream wielder|| works wonderfully for a nail based build.

[simple island]

for a late game charm build I would say that ||shaman/quick slash/strength is a base line then you can add stuff like heart/spell twister/any combination of grubsong, nmg, dream wielder, sbody to finish; you can also replace one of the first 3 charm with MoP||
However you dying over and over may not be due to charms but your unfamiliarity with certain bosses
Make sure to practice a lot the bosses you die on/loose a lot of health on

[fair pike]

||> so I get to the final fight agents sly but I keep dying. Thats my main issue||

[simple island]

Well give that fight a lot of tries in the ||hall of gods
Personally what I like to do is use nail arts and only nail arts
Basically just hang around them and back up in order to make them use their move fully, and do a great slash after each attack||

[fair pike]

Ok ill try that, Thanks!

[sudden prairie]

||i need some help with last room of path of pain the last part of lastroom of path of pain plz i haveb been there ofr 5 hrs now||

[hollow bramble]

try watching a tutorial

[sudden prairie]

i did

[tribal dove]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

I BEAT ||STEEL SOUL||

NOW JUST TIME FOR 100%

LETS GOOOOO

HOLY

I BEAT SPEEDRUN 1 ASWELL

9 HOURS 59 MINUTES AND 44 SECONDS

WHAT ARE THE CHANCES LMAOOOO

[undone jacinth]

||i can't believe im throwing this bad in p5
On my 2nd attempt of today i was at GPZ
Now i died once to oro mato, then hornet 2 (because after sly i was so relieved i just forgot to heal and got surprised by hornet 2)
And now i died to xero phase 2 of all things even tho I stared using shrieks in phase 2||

[ruby valley]

why "||"

[tribal dove]

?

any idea why i cant see my % of my ||steel soul run||?

[sharp torrent]

||you need to obtain world sense by interacting with the lore tablet in black egg||

[tribal dove]

ohhhh

ty dude

i might be able to get 100 completion on that file as well

[empty sable]

Not really needing help but I have a question. If you beat the game does the save file become unplayable, or is it like a new game+? Or does it just set you right back where you were before beating the game?

[short kettle]

The latter. You resume where you were last but retain the achievements and all.

[empty sable]

thank you

one more thing

||whats the best way to get 1800 essence? I already beat failed champion, lost kin, Marmu, Xero, and Gorb.||

forgot the || at the end mb

[short kettle]

There are more ||dream bosses and dream warriors.||

[pallid comet]

i have an unpopular opinion

||p4 is easier than p3||

[empty sable]

nah, really?

[short kettle]

Only one more ||dream boss|| actually, but more ||warriors.||

[empty sable]

i mean like, the easiest way.

[pallid comet]

how did you miss the early game ones

[short kettle]

There is no easier way than fighting them.

[empty sable]

not easiest but

[pallid comet]

theyre not hard

[empty sable]

like a route to all of them

or where they are]

which gives the most ||essence||

[short kettle]

||Buy the warrior's grave pin from Iselda in Dirtmouth.||

[empty sable]

yeah but you still have to encouter them to get it pinned

[pallid comet]

there are ton of warriors left

[empty sable]

i looked in ||hall of gods|| to see their location but im 2 dum 2 fig urr eet out

[pallid comet]

||markoth, no eyes , elder hu, white defender,galien and soul tyrant||

[short kettle]

Warriors: ||one in deepnest around failed tramway, one in kingdom's edge behind a shadow barrier gate, one in fungal wastes before mantis village, one in greenpath near the fog canyon entrance.||

Bosses: ||one in soul sanctum, one in royal waterways, one in Dirtmouth||

[pallid comet]

those the ones youre missing

[empty sable]

oh forgot to mention i beat ||❌ 👁️ 👁️ ||

[pallid comet]

i gave the names and archer gave the location

[empty sable]

k thx

[kind plinth]

How to find ||dung defenders corpse to fight white defender? And who much essence does he give?||

[short kettle]

When I say near, I don't mean that exact location but somewhere around there, yeah?

[short kettle]

||Use descending dark under the lever you get access to after fighting Dung defender||

[pallid comet]

holy shit i didnt know dat

[kind plinth]

Huh thx

[pallid comet]

i fought him at the ||hog and i got the achive||

[empty sable]

||DD doesnt die, you just beat him, but as for his location, im pretty sure its under where you beat him and use desolate/descending||

i just realized after beating ||DD you need to use DD to get to DD's DB (DB as in Dream Boss).||

alliteration, anyone?

[jolly oar]

I need help for the ||absrad fight, I got it yesterday and I do not know how to play the fight properly|| any tips???

[tawny sapphire]

don't be overly aggressive and play it slow

[jolly oar]

thanks

[tawny sapphire]

other than that it's just look at the attacks and dodge

[jolly oar]

okay

[empty sable]

what dr nightmare said, "don't be overly aggressive and play it slow", but also if you really struggle just dodge everything and study it's attack pattern

[pallid comet]

wow thats nice

i wanna know what lore does it have

[jolly oar]

got it

[olive jay]

beatiful

[kind plinth]

It looks rly hard tho

[short kettle]

||The five great knights. Not a ton of lore but what we have is delicious too.||

[kind plinth]

Like I was watching speedrunners do it and I was very impressed but they were also dying but also there new bosses so new patterns ig

And not just the same old memorized attacks

[pallid comet]

hold on a second
there is a lady from the background that looks like a boss from ||pale court||

[short kettle]

That's the main game fight I think, not the ||pale court|| mod.

[short kettle]

The point of ||pale court|| is that you fight ||the Knights|| lol

[kind plinth]

No

Ja ik

[short kettle]

All of them can be fought in ||pale court||

[pallid comet]

oh

[kind plinth]

Ik

[kind plinth]

I meant in general not that specific figjt

Fight

[short kettle]

I wasn't replying to you though?

[pallid comet]

ok but why does the game only added ||false knight as and not the rest||

[short kettle]

||False knight is not a knight. The only knight you can fight in game is white defender.||

I can explain the lore in dms better if you care

[pallid comet]

but he is in the back ground

[pallid comet]

i will watch vids about it later

or read it

[kind plinth]

Makes much much more sense mb

Ignore me I'm easily confused

[short kettle]

||Yeah, but the knight you fight is not the same. Someone stole his armor by killing him.||

Ofc a ||great knight|| wouldn't be that ass at fighting lmao

[pallid comet]

that mf

[short kettle]

That's why it's called ||False Knight||

You interact with only two ||living great knights in the game.||

[pallid comet]

||white lady and the defender?||

no the ||mourner||

[short kettle]

||White lady is the queen, not a knight. There's a dead knight outside her hut though.||

[short kettle]

Yeah.

[pallid comet]

i see

[pallid comet]

i no longer hate him

he is so cute

[unique burrow]

hey yall what do i have to do to send images in the art gallery or join vcs cuase it aint letting me do that

[neat karma]

#support-and-faq

Also this channel is for ingame help

[unique burrow]

Ohh ok didnt see that before

Thanks

[pallid comet]

spoiler tag

[stable shale]

WHOOPS my bad

[pallid comet]

dw

[stable shale]

where ||did my soul go||

[acoustic sigil]

The location of the ||shade ||on the map is just in the middle of the room, not necessarily it's exact location. Do you hear the music somewhere

[stable shale]

i hear like an eerie sound effect playing yeah

[acoustic sigil]

Move towards that

[pallid comet]

i advice you to quit to menu to respawn at the nearest bench and heal so you dont die again and lose your geo

[stable shale]

oh thanks

[short kettle]

||That room is notorious for sometimes putting it in an unreachable position from that side.||

[acoustic sigil]

Also true

[short kettle]

Hopefully that's not the case here but if it is, there is one other way of retrieving it.

[empty sable]

you did accidentally reply to his message tho so i just want to clear that up

[pallid comet]

i bet the ||shade ||is on top of the parkour the safe area

[empty sable]

you mean the part with the ||guys in the acid?||

[acoustic sigil]

||It sometimes spawns here, which you can't reach with the current abilities||

[short kettle]

No, it's usually past the block thingy that's only accessible if you have access to a whole different game area that's mid to late game.

[short kettle]

Ah that's on me

[empty sable]

well what does he have? i dont see it

[acoustic sigil]

||Presumably only dash and fireball||

[empty sable]

soobdye, mf yelloi wnsectg

translates to "goodbye my fellow insects"

[pallid comet]

what is the tactics for ||no eyes||

[vernal lynx]

||1. Camp in one spot
2. Wait for him to come near
3. Hit REALLY hard when he does||

[short kettle]

||Bottom left platform, nail art, baldur shell.||

[pallid comet]

oh

[sudden prairie]

||guys path of pain last room help last part of last room||

[short kettle]

Its way easier to utilise ||shell because the attacks are awkward rather than fast.||

[pallid comet]

does that work for ||radiant too||

fr

[short kettle]

Do you mean ||shell||? Yeah

[pallid comet]

yea

[vernal lynx]

Yes if ur good enough

[pallid comet]

iam bad tho

[sudden prairie]

||guys path of pain last room help last part of last room||

[kind plinth]

Tutorial

Google it

[neat karma]

Really helpful.

[kind plinth]

Reyleas is good I think

I know right

[neat karma]

"Hey can yall help m-" go google it, out.

[pallid comet]

will try ||radiant oblobble first to rage a lil bit||

[south cobalt]

can someone give me some tips on ||bench guardian -_-||

[sudden prairie]

already saw relyea's

[kind plinth]

Hey I mean it's good advice

[neat karma]

If theyre asking here its for a reason

[sudden prairie]

||dodge||

[kind plinth]

I haven't tried path of pain so good luck

[neat karma]

Tags

[hoary summit]

Well its technics, a video can explain that better tbh

[south cobalt]

||dofhe||

[kind plinth]

||Crystal guardian?||

[neat karma]

I have something for that room gimme a second

[south cobalt]

tag

tag that

[neat karma]

Please use spoiler tags

[neat karma]

Not helpful either

[south cobalt]

but yes

[pallid comet]

||jump his attacks and dash||

[kind plinth]

Oops sry

[vernal lynx]

Anyone have a strat for ||Ascended Markoth||

[pallid comet]

||elegy||

[neat karma]

What happened whar is this lunch rush of hk help

[short kettle]

||Keep bouncing on the spikes and estimate when the saw blade might be coming to you. Its fast so you'll have to predict it. Nail bounce. When it goes away, dash under and monarch wings to bounce on the fixed saw in the middle. Wait for the moving saw blade to come to the right, jump on it, pogo, dash and wings. Viola.||

[kind plinth]

It's lunch time for you?

For me it's 8 in the venung

[south cobalt]

yeah but like what ||charms|| ive been speedrunning my way back up so i have very few but im currently using ||wayward compass, shaman stone, and thorns of agony||

[pallid comet]

its 9pm here

[neat karma]

Its a joke

[vernal lynx]

It’s 2:43 right now

[neat karma]

||thorns is very bad, it is worse than not using it||

[south cobalt]

is that ||path of pain?||

[pallid comet]

is that fukin jeff

[neat karma]

yes

[kind plinth]

Mind blown

[south cobalt]

any tips on which ones i should use

[pallid comet]

war criminal

[south cobalt]

ill look at th eones i have rq

[neat karma]

Its the creature,,,,

[pallid comet]

nO

[neat karma]

[sudden prairie]

||i meant the part exactly before that last part where you have to reach the spikes||

[pallid comet]

a specnial place in hell awaits you demon

[south cobalt]

is ||mark of pride useful i may be able to get another charm nocht from sulubra||

[neat karma]

Damn, dont have anything for that sorry

[short kettle]

Very

[neat karma]

Its good yeah

[short kettle]

Do that

[south cobalt]

for ||crystal guardian?||

[pallid comet]

yes

[sudden prairie]

its alr thx anyway

[short kettle]

Yes

[south cobalt]

ok ty

[short kettle]

Extra range never hurts

Except uh

Iykyk

[south cobalt]

i have to go back to ||infected crossroads ;-;||

[sudden prairie]

||path of pai||

[pallid comet]

||pop||

[shut sparrow]

L

[neat karma]

Shmshtuhg nosef

[shut sparrow]

ok

[pallid comet]

||
holy shit nails art are so good aggainst those flying elephants||

but iam still bad at dodging them

[neat karma]

The what now

Feel like we should address that

[south cobalt]

||flying elefants? oh nvm ||

[pallid comet]

nope

[sudden prairie]

||honestly the xtra range never gave me a issue in POP even in the lasy room the only thing i keep fumbling is getting past the saw just before the spikes||

[pallid comet]

i see nothing to address

[sly rune]

Let's address the elephant in the room.

[pallid comet]

iam happy i didnt do that shitty ass parkour yet

my sanity is reserved

[kind plinth]

If I could read your name piucie then I would congratulate you for making it that far

[pallid comet]

they fly too

in packs

[kind plinth]

Piuxie

[pallid comet]

whats with the snail emote here

[kind plinth]

Idk how to spell ot

It

[pallid comet]

been seeing it alot

[kind plinth]

Don't question the snails

They come for dissedents

[pallid comet]

[kind plinth]

You don't want to know what they do to dissedents

Horrible slimy wee buggers

[neat karma]

Me when reading

[pallid comet]

[kind plinth]

Also is this the kind of chatter it support has when bored bc that's basically this chat

So

What do y'all think it talks about when bored?

[pallid comet]

iam convinced theyre harder than ||markoth||

[kind plinth]

They have the best name tho

[pallid comet]

sorry excuse of a boss

[short kettle]

TIL they're a couple

[verbal widget]

||Im 12 tries down for the False Knight dream fight and I can barely hit him, I don’t understand how am I supposed to dodge his attacks||

[short kettle]

You might be underprepared. Share the first page of you inventory and charms?

[verbal widget]

I really can’t it him twice

[south cobalt]

well ||mark of pride rlly made crystal guardian ez lol||

[undone jacinth]

||bruhhh i got to p5 markoth with full health and most soul
Then wasn't able to heal much and survived with 3 masks
Died in a minute in GPZ 😭||

[south cobalt]

||abysal shriek could help||

[sudden prairie]

how to send images with the spoiler thing

[south cobalt]

mobile?

[sudden prairie]

no

[south cobalt]

oh idk then

try clicking on it and hitting spoiler tab

[undone jacinth]

Select image and then click on image

Options should appear

[south cobalt]

wait i need help with a ||charm||

[whole tangle]

henlo, how can i ||Unlocking the lift in the City of Tears||. ?

i want the ||vessel fragment||.

@short kettle can u help bls

[south cobalt]

send pic prodigy

put spoilers

[verbal widget]

||which of the infinitesimal amount of lifts?||

[south cobalt]

fr

[short kettle]

Underprepared, yes. ||You should have more notches.

But it can be done with this. First of all, take off the exploration charms like compass. Use charms like fragile strength (it won't break in drama world fights) and mark of pride. He's extremely fast paced. Stay close enough to him so that you can jump back if he hits the ground with this mace or dash under him if he jumps. Spam your attack quickly otherwise, these are the only moves he does outside the one after stagger.

When he's staggered on the ground, use dream nail to collect soul before killing him. Make sure you hit the head, don't let him stand up by himself.||

[sudden prairie]

||king's station go up then left||

[whole tangle]

thank you 🤍

[south cobalt]

does anyone know hjow to make ||fragile strengh into unbreakable strengh||

[undone jacinth]

||there's a big one you unlock to crossroads from city
And then there the other one you enter from resting grounds
That area you can only first access from resting grounds and kings station is not accessible unless you enter from that elevator||

Im not even sure which one they want

[verbal widget]

||I don’t really know how to get more of them, I just know I can buy from the charm woman||

[short kettle]

||Activate the grimm troupe quest and you'll see a tent. An npc will do it for you at the cost of a lot of geo.||

[sudden prairie]

||u gotta unlock the grimm DLC from howling cliffs check the relya tutorial||

[south cobalt]

ok ty

[short kettle]

Yes, buy more there. What areas have you explored?

[sudden prairie]

guys shall i put stop the path of pain for now and try tmrw... i hv done it for 7 hrs staright the last room... i will put my laptop to hibernate so i wont lose any prgess wdyt?

[south cobalt]

u get one from a certain boss in ||fungal wastes the shrooms||

[acoustic sigil]

Spoiler tags

[undone jacinth]

Or you could use a mod if possible || (benchwarp)||

[short kettle]

Yeah. Don't overdo it, it's easier to do it with a clear mind.

[sudden prairie]

theres always a chnce i lose my muscle memory tho

[south cobalt]

that sounds like the most spiritual thing that u could call it

[simple island]

As long as it doesn’t shut down your game you are good
So I think just shutting your laptop works
Though you are probably overestimating how long it took you to get where you are, plus how long it would take you to come back

[sudden prairie]

i can do everything except the last part 99% of the time

[south cobalt]

or type of advice

[short kettle]

Not in a few hours, you won't. It's more about the precise movement and the area teaches you that.

[verbal widget]

||Oh I think quite a lot, kings station, queens station, and a ton of more I can’t remember I don’t have the map under me rn||

[simple island]

Please use spoiler tags !

[whole tangle]

this door right sir?

[south cobalt]

thats a ||hot spring||

[sudden prairie]

no not that one

[short kettle]

Spoiler tags.

||And that's not a lot by names, but I think you're trying him too early. Explore more, come back when your charm collection looks nearly full. He's one of the bosses that you should fight as you near the end of the game.||

[south cobalt]

tags

spoiler tags

[sudden prairie]

sry mb

sry

[whole tangle]

yes sir

[simple island]

I think the previous person told you some bullshit
The ||lift|| on the ||left side of city of tears is right next to city storeroom and just opens if you go there from the bottom||

There are ||two lift, if you want the item locked behind a lift it is the leftmost one ||

[sudden prairie]

hold on which one is he asking about @whole tangle

[simple island]

Clearly the other according to

[short kettle]

There's only one that grant access to a ||fragment.||

[whole tangle]

the lift in ||forgotten road||

[undone jacinth]

||coincidentally that door also leads there if you already have a spare key||

[cobalt lantern]

How do i get past this || black laser ||

[undone jacinth]

😶😫

[acoustic sigil]

Saying sorry is nice but do edit the message please

[whole tangle]

i fixed it

[south cobalt]

an ability u get sater in the game 🙂

later

[sudden prairie]

||oh sry i ddidnt see the vessel fragment part... i am sry for that.. ye the city storeroom one at the left||

[cobalt lantern]

Ok

[simple island]

Tldr is that you don’t
That does mean that ||cornifer|| will not be reachable for a while

[undone jacinth]

No i meant we were pointing in the wrong direction
I recon you send your map , we can mark it

[simple island]

I think they can figure it out tbh

[undone jacinth]

Well that would be better

🪩

[cobalt lantern]

What || bosses || do i need to beat to unlock || The Monarch Wings ||

[undone jacinth]

Exploration is key

[sudden prairie]

||cornifer is actually the reincarnated pale king...sarcasm ofc||

[simple island]

Like they literally just have to go from ||city to under that lift||
It’s drawing a vertical line

If anything chat has confused them more than helped

[short kettle]

You'll know when you can and it won't be for a good while. Ignore and move on.

[cobalt lantern]

Ok

[cobalt lantern]

Im exploring places that can be accessed with || The Mothwind Cloak ||

[short kettle]

Isn't that simple. Explore at your natural pace and you'll find it.

[simple island]

Usually you should try to go to new places, that will eventually make you collect the items you need
Trying to do things the other way around and trying to go in places you think there are items in will just be more confusing and not necessary

[whole tangle]

help me bls

[simple island]

It’s at the far left

Near the top

[whole tangle]

okay

[sudden prairie]

||u can see the lift sybol on top left||

[short kettle]

||Spoiler tag. Also, you can see the lift drawing in the top left. Go there.||

[south cobalt]

oh yeah how do i get the scammer to sell me the ||elegant key -_-||

[whole tangle]

okay

thank you guys

[short kettle]

What scammer

[simple island]

You also have a map in game which can help you figure out which places you haven’t been in
That would have shown you where to explore

[tribal dove]

WHAT

SCAMMER?

[south cobalt]

||sly mr money hungry||

[tribal dove]

He is NOT a scammer

[south cobalt]

but the real scammer ||the banker||

[tribal dove]

Yeah

But she gives it back tho

[simple island]

There is an item in the ||peaks that lets sly|| sell you more item

[south cobalt]

yeah u rob her

[tribal dove]

And u get more than u gave her

[sudden prairie]

||with interest||

[tribal dove]

Yeah

[south cobalt]

||cryastal heart? or d dark?||

[undone jacinth]

No....||i think we just settled our debts , with interest||

[simple island]

Neither

[undone jacinth]

||its like some key||

[south cobalt]

what do i have to bring him a ||dead miner||

[simple island]

It’s another item which is clearly related to ||sly||
You will find it next to the top most bench of the area
It isn’t really hidden, you probably just walked past it

[short kettle]

||A key item. Look for it, its not that hidden.||

[south cobalt]

yeah he sells it

[undone jacinth]

😵‍💫

[tribal dove]

||Guys any idea what mask shards I’m missing? I need 2 more shards and then I will be able to 100% my steel soul||

[short kettle]

He doesn't sell his own key, bud

[south cobalt]

||elegant key||

[short kettle]

You bring him his ||own key to get another||

[tribal dove]

Not that one

[simple island]

||Flower quest ? Probably fungal core||

[south cobalt]

thats the one im talking about

[sudden prairie]

||guys i will have to play the game after 17 hrs... should i just continue with POP or should i do it tmrw after 17 hrs cu i have schollas well.. also i am rly tired atm after 7 hrs of attempt||

[south cobalt]

i want ||shade soul||

[simple island]

Yes to get that one you need some other item found in ||peaks ||near the top most bench

[south cobalt]

what is it?

[short kettle]

You get ||ELEGANT KEY by bringing Sly the SHOPKEEPER key which is in peaks. Find it.||

[south cobalt]

ive been their alr

[undone jacinth]

||with how people talk it's not that bad redoing it ..... Some people recommend it too
Ive mentioned you can use a mod to like get back to that spot later on ..... If you are ok with using mods||

[sudden prairie]

?

[short kettle]

Then you didn't explore hard enough. Explore again.

[tribal dove]

Done both

[sudden prairie]

||i wouldnt have to redo it||

[void wave]

||Put your pc in sleep mode and restart tomorrow in the same place||

[simple island]

The item is called ||shopkeepers key|| and for Christ sake I already told you like 3 times how to get it, just go get it, it is near the top bench

[short kettle]

||Mawlek? Waterways?||

[tribal dove]

Both

[void wave]

||But tbh redoing isn't that bad||

[tribal dove]

I rushed all I could remember from my normal run since it’s ||steel soul||

[sudden prairie]

hibernate mode is basically sleep mode but shut down

[simple island]

You are overestimating how much time redoing it will take
Just shut down your PC, go touch grass and sleep
7 hour sessions aren’t productive anyways

[short kettle]

||Grub?||

[undone jacinth]

Oh my bad, i misread
You should finish it probably first
Later you will suffer slightly more because out touch
Do it later ...... After 17 hrs
Breaks help, long stretches put stress on mind and performance drops over times
I can't read..... I ve forgotten how to read definitely

[tribal dove]

All done

[simple island]

You have ||waterways, bretta, sly, 2 laying about in crossroad||s…

[tribal dove]

I have done all those

[simple island]

You can just use the wiki at some point if you need a completion check list
It is there for a reason

[tribal dove]

Yeah imma do that

Bro that file is goated

[short kettle]

||Stone sanctuary? Enraged guardian? Seer?||

||And Hive.|| That's literally all of them.

[tribal dove]

||i did speedrun 1, steel soul and then if I get this speed completion and steel completion||

[sudden prairie]

||prolly would take atleast 3 more hrs and its 12 30 at night rn and i got school to tmrw so i think ima sleep i mean i would be a bit out of touch but thats fine thx anyway||

[tribal dove]

Oohhh

||seer||

[undone jacinth]

Yeah just chill for now do it later
8 hrs is not a small amount

[sudden prairie]

bye guys

[simple island]

Why have you not maxed out ||seer|| already
It is free %, ||woke nail is %, 2.4K is %
And since you don’t die when fighting dream bosses like failed champ you have no reason to not do it||

Smh

[tribal dove]

I have done all of those tho

Just not the trees

Plus I wanted to focus on things I could die on first so if I died it wouldn’t be as big as a loss

[short kettle]

How are you ||missing the shard from her if you've done all of those||

[tribal dove]

Idk

Haven’t visited her in ages

[undone jacinth]

Any advice for me ?
||(P5) This was my 6th attempt today and I don't wanna spend that much time on another attempt if im not up to getting past GPZ
But I've practiced both markoth and GPZ for long time and more practice wasn't showing any improvement
Like i can dodge markoth swords fine but sometimes you're just in an awkward position for eg if markoth comes towards you
And so you get hit like once per sword bit and then also when attacking sometimes his shield will hit me .....
So i can do him , but i can't do it perfectly
And GPZ with 3-6 health is just too tough for me||

[tribal dove]

||train on ascended||

That really helped me

It teaches u how to dodge while getting attacks in

[undone jacinth]

||i was doing on both attuned and ascended
I only switched to attuned because i just can't survive his phase 2 part in ascended
I practiced on~~ attuned ~~ ASCENDED for majority of my practice
(Markoth)||

[tribal dove]

||what i did mostly was getting good on attuned and then switching to ascended. If you’re really gonna practice I would also do radiant but that gonna take time||

[short kettle]

||Try to go into GPZ with soul. Try to dream nail him as well during his animation if you have wielder equipped. Spam ddark during his jumps and farm soul when he spits his minions. Nail bounce on the sword swinging attack. GPZ was a pain in the ass but he's fairly simple if you learn his jumps better.

As for Markoth, yeah, the randomness of the spikes makes him unbearable.||

[tribal dove]

|| also for markoth charge up nail arts and hit him when possible||

[undone jacinth]

||i tried that too at some point but simply too risky with not much returns
Nail hits just better because I get more soul and i really need to for phase 2 spells and heals throughout the fight||

[void wave]

||play him on ascended, it's going to be a torture but you'll get way better||

[undone jacinth]

Curses
Seemw like i made a typo

[void wave]

?

[undone jacinth]

I edited it

[tribal dove]

||dash slash ||?

[undone jacinth]

||no how i can do dash slash with no floor 💀
Great slash||

[tribal dove]

||off the wall ||?

[void wave]

||just wing after it||

[undone jacinth]

This is outside my scope
||I can't dodge his swords and charge nail art, get on a wall and do dash slash accurately on him without missing
And makes no sense to do it when he stops swords because nail much easier then||

[pallid comet]

||A FUKIN ZOTE BOMB SPAWNED INFRONT OF GPZ WHILE IM DOING RADIANT SO WHILE IAM ATTACKING HIM I ATTACKED IT||

wtf is this rng

[undone jacinth]

That's what they are paid for you know

Finally that guy did his job

[void wave]

uh so i mean like

||I'm assuming you can't land after dash slashing or smth||

||so if you use wings after dash slash you can prob get to a platform||

[undone jacinth]

I can't even execute it ..... read this one

[void wave]

I sent it before i read that one

[undone jacinth]

Somehow thats something just way harder than doing the fight normally and leaving the rest to luck

[tribal dove]

I would practice doing that

[short kettle]

Not necessarily. ||Dash slashes are very helpful in that fight, you just don't have much experience with it in general it seems.||

[undone jacinth]

||and im honestly sick of hall of gods
Ive practiced both GPZ and markoth for hours on ascended at this point
And I don't wanna go back because it was just not showing any progress after a certain point||

[undone jacinth]

Yes.... Barely use it ever

[short kettle]

||You're already dashing around most of the battle, holding and releasing the attack button doesn't take as much concentration as you might expect.||

[tribal dove]

||oh that ain’t even the worst part of HoG||

It’s about to be much worse

[undone jacinth]

||i haven't even unlocked absrad yet||

[tribal dove]

Yeah

[undone jacinth]

||i don't have anything against practice
That's how ive progressed until now, practice
But i just don't have the motivation if i get like 0 progress after a lot of practice (at this point)||

[tribal dove]

Well practice does help

Even if it’s just s little bit

It took me like 10 days to beat ||p5||

And that was just pure practice

[coarse otter]

What charms am i missing?

Ik about the ||one in void || gonna do that one first but the others?

[acoustic sigil]

Do you want names, areas?

[coarse otter]

Already finished the game once :p

doing a replay so i can become skilled again

and uh since the last play through i don't know where some charms are

[acoustic sigil]

||All grubs, abyss lifeblood, sharp shadow (deepnest), nail masters glory (get all nail arts), shape of unn (lake of unn) ||

[coarse otter]

Alr perfect

I'm actually right at ||Dirtmouth|| beat ||nkg recently|| and i can get ||NG|| easily

[cobalt lantern]

Which of these || Charms || should i equip?

[verbal widget]

@short kettle ||Now I’m back home I can tell you my zone: forgotten path (infected), verdevia, realms edge, ancient basin, sleep lands, city of Tears, crystal peak, mushroom cave, and a little of darknest||

[coarse otter]

Replace ||dash master for soul catcher||

[jade sedge]

||For exploring compass and catcher, for bosses catcher and dashmaster. Thorns usually harms more than helps because it locks you in place during your iframes wich often leads to getting hit again||

[idle thunder]

||this is good but if you are at a boss you should replace dashmaster with soul catcher||

[cobalt lantern]

Lol || Wayard Compass, Thorns of agony and soul catcher || were the || charms || that i use normally

[verbal widget]

||Im stuck on the dream fight of false knight someone help||

[coarse otter]

||Compass is pretty much useless but for newbies i highly doubt you will take it off.||

[tribal dove]

USELESS?

IT IS NOT USELESS

[hollow bramble]

its the strongest charm in the game

[coarse otter]

And time for the jokesters

. . .

[tribal dove]

U know what ||godhome|| is?

[verbal widget]

People help me please ||can I beat dream false knight with these stuff, anyone have suggested build||

[tribal dove]

Send map

[jade sedge]

||Use grubsong, shamans and twister and use spells a lot||

[verbal widget]

||false knight doesn’t give souls, strange||

[tribal dove]

|| when he is staggered dnail him for soul||

[jade sedge]

||Yeah, but you have very good spells compared to nail level, and your charms are better for spells. Grubsong helps with that.||

[verbal widget]

||ain’t helpful, I can’t even land 3 hits on him||

[jade sedge]

||Dash under it when it jumps towards you. Dont attack on the shockwave attack, just dodge.||

[verbal widget]

||its the charm that give souls on hit?||

[jade sedge]

Yes

[coarse otter]

Suggestion: Come back later

I did that cuz on your level you can't

[verbal widget]

Im definitely coming back later

[coarse otter]

yeah he's a joke when you come back later in the game

[verbal widget]

im kinda confused where should I head next tho

[tribal dove]

Send map

[whole tangle]

hello, i defeated ||mantis lord but didn't get the charm||

[coarse otter]

To get ||Mark of Pride|| you have to go in another room after DEFEATING them

[shut sparrow]

how come?

[coarse otter]

That's how you get it

[verbal widget]

||darknest is almost unexplored, same goes for the hive||

[whole tangle]

didn't get dialouge or anything

[shut sparrow]

you aren't supposed to

explore the ||village|| further

[tribal dove]

What the hell

[jade sedge]

Then explore those?

[shut sparrow]

||generally just try to go towards the 3 masks marked on your map||
or as otso said explore the unexplored areas

[verbal widget]

I was thinking to go ||for the dreamers but I fear they are a little extra strong||

[shut sparrow]

well, no reason not to try

[cobalt lantern]

Yo i just got the || Mantis Claw ||

[winter rune]

I need to do a || News game to ban the Grimm’s troupe if i alreaydy kill nightmare Dream || ?

[livid shoal]

Yeah

[hoary summit]

||there are various achievements that you need more than one save for||

[frail musk]

A hint towards how I can get past this barrier? I come back to it a lot, and I never learn how to get past it lol.

[pallid comet]

you can doit very later into the game

dw

[frail musk]

Oh ok lol, thanks

[whole tangle]

henlo, ||i defeated Dung defender.

which floor do i have to use desolate dive please?||

[pallid comet]

the floor under the lever

and use ||dream nail on him||

[whole tangle]

there is no one here

only the collectibor

[pallid comet]

chat does ||fury of the fallen increase spell dmg too? ||

[whole tangle]

nope, only nail dmg

[pallid comet]

here

[acoustic sigil]

He will be there later

[whole tangle]

thanks

[frail musk]

Came all this way, and I can’t even pass either way

[hoary summit]

Yah pretty scammy

But you gotta come from the other side

[shut sparrow]

||fyi he appears only after the dreamers are destroyed||

[pallid comet]

oh

didnt know dat

spoiler tag

and what does that even mean

[neat karma]

please use spoiler tags for all ingame content in this chat, see how below

[languid radish]

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[pallid comet]

any idea how to ||radiant watcher knights||

bouncy mfs

[neat karma]

outta my league sorry i find ||radianting boring||

[thick wing]

mb i\ forgot

but can u help me?

[neat karma]

please edit or delete said message, but yeah what exactly do you mean by that

[thick wing]

sometimes when i hold the || c dash || bind while sliding it doesnt start

[neat karma]

you mean ||sliding down a wall?||

[thick wing]

yes

[pallid comet]

Somewalls are like that

[thick wing]

cuz for me it only happens like 50% of the time

the otheer 50% it works

[shut sparrow]

||use a lot of dive especially when you don't know how you're gonna dodge something (eg. both rolling/bouncing toward you), generally just use a lot of spells and play carefully. It's mostly just a test of endurance. For charms I recommend shaman, strength, qslash, sbody, eater. You can also try mop instead of eater for more safety but the other one is almost always better.
Anything specific you struggle with?||

[pallid comet]

Sometimes it bugs i think
Or it's your keyboard
Pressing more than 3 buttons makes your keyboard go awoga

[thick wing]

my || c dash || is binded to a mouse button

[pallid comet]

[pallid comet]

I struggle with when i see 2 testicles rolling towards me

[shut sparrow]

try binding it to something else and see if it still doesn't work

[thick wing]

tried binding it to q also sometimes doesnt work

[pallid comet]

I have same build except ||mop for eater yea||

[shut sparrow]

||with eater you'll be able to use a lot more spells which is extremely strong for this fight. I recommend you try it out||

[pallid comet]

Sometimes i ||shade cloak through them and it works
Some times i hit there hitbox||

It's infuriating

Sometimes i take ||sharp shadow||
But then i forget i have ||sharp shadow||

[pallid comet]

Will try it

[shut sparrow]

don't use that

[pallid comet]

Yea the extra range is so ass in this fight

[shut sparrow]

||generally shade cloaking through them is not something that you should do a lot except for when they're alone||

[pallid comet]

Btw is there a way i can take ||fury of the fallen and activate it before the radiant fight?||

[shut sparrow]

||pogo them, use ddark, move away for shade soul or whatever. You can do it but usually you need to avoid the second one anyway at that point||

[shut sparrow]

no

[pallid comet]

Yea i do this with the first one and second one
They usually alone

[pallid comet]

If iam missing masks and start ||hog , the game heals me ?||

[brazen current]

||just a random question but what’s the average time it takes to complete pantheon 5||

[shut sparrow]

well my best advice really just is trying to use ||a lot of shade soul and ddark specifically with eater helping trying to hit both as much as possible||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[brazen current]

||only runs I see are like wr runs and I don’t wanna compare myself to them||

[tranquil oriole]

like game time or one successful run?

[brazen current]

One successful run

[tranquil oriole]

i usually get between 30-35,

[shut sparrow]

I'd say 30-45 minutes. Might take longer tho depending on your skill level

[tranquil oriole]

i know lots of people who get 40s and play a bit more defensively

[brazen current]

Ur saying usually like u do it often 😂

[tranquil oriole]

i used to yeah 😭

[brazen current]

If ur doing it often you’ll defo be quicker than what im trying to compare myself to

[pallid comet]

Oh shit in that case i cheated in some bosses ||hornet ,oblobble, grob||
I took a mod charm ,That makes my hp 1 ||so i take fury and try ut||

I have to do them again

[brazen current]

Yh that sounds a bit more my level

[shut sparrow]

[pallid comet]

Somehow i do this in ||pantheons but in radiant i forgor||

And they're so TANKY

[pallid comet]

That was cheating right

[brazen current]

||also for nkg, do u have to hit the bat when she turns into multiple and flies around||

[pallid comet]

Oh god i have to do that flying machine gun again

[shut sparrow]

in the end it's really just mainly practice. Sure, there are some helpful tips here and there but it mostly just takes practice and getting used to the boss more and more

[brazen current]

I see people do it but I use that time to heal

Which might be the reason I feel like I’m going like 6-7 phases with it

[pallid comet]

You only gain soul when you do hit it
And you don't dmg him
I advise you to heal
You can heal 3 masks

[shut sparrow]

well, nobody can really define cheating if ur just doing it yourself and don't tell anybody you did it without mods. Most people would consider that cheating tho methinks. But hey, if you wanna do it like that and just remember to mention you did it using ||fury|| there's nothing wrong with that

[pallid comet]

||Yea ik
I find it easy to do any of the pantheons with any bindings but i lose to abs rad duh ,hog made me so much better against those mfs||

[brazen current]

||ok so the fight actually is super long and im not messing up. Do bosses in pantheon 5 have less hp then or am i gonna have to deal with that length of a fight again||

Man this game would be so much easier with a hp bar

[pallid comet]

||They have less hp than the attuned version so dw||

||Abs rad have 2180 hp
Attuned has 3k ||

[brazen current]

😮‍💨 I was genuinely doubting that I’d be able to plat this game if that was the case

[pallid comet]

Wait someone say's iam wrong
Maybe iam

[brazen current]

That’s so sick

[pallid comet]

I didn't check wiki

[shut sparrow]

||bosses in ascended/radiant (with a few exceptions) have more hp than on attuned.
The bosses in the pantheon (with the only exception being brooding mawlek) have the same amount of hp as attuned.
Nkg has a little less hp on attuned/in the pantheon than in Dirtmouth though||

[brazen current]

Cuz I swear they get killed way quicker

[shut sparrow]

remember to use tags

[shut sparrow]

no

[brazen current]

Yh that’s chill perfect thx

||as long as I don’t have to spend however long I already spend fighter nkg im happ||

[pallid comet]

||Well there is no way to activate fury in hog so it's kinda cheating yea even with a mod
Its makes the fight ends in matter of seconds
I wanna doit the og way||

[brazen current]

I can get good at every other fight fairly easy

[shut sparrow]

alright

remember to tag ||fury||

[shut sparrow]

do you heal on ||nkg||?

[pallid comet]

I used hp bars and it said 3k

[shut sparrow]

and ||hog||

[shut sparrow]

yeah it lies

[pallid comet]

Damn

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-i-lied-gif-21836345

[shut sparrow]

please tag this

[shut sparrow]

and please tag this lol

[brazen current]

Mb

[pallid comet]

So what's the reference of hp in ||pantheons||

Higher or lower

[shut sparrow]

same than ||attuned always except for mawlek which has less in p5||

[pallid comet]

Oh

[delicate geode]

yall, i been trying to 100% complete the achievements in hollowknight

but for some reason

[pallid comet]

Spoiler tag

[delicate geode]

oh shoot sorry

[pallid comet]

Delete it at this point you cant spoiler tag a photo you already posted

[shut sparrow]

?Tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

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[delicate geode]

what exactly about the photo is a spoiler btw?

[shut sparrow]

the achievements. Read the pins for more information

also please tag this message ||like this||

||you need to hit his corpse iirc||

[delicate geode]

Oh, alright! thank you

[glossy raptor]

||i beat winged nosk first try let’s go||

[stoic cedar]

hello, please spoiler tag ur message as per channel rules

[glossy raptor]

oh yeah

[glossy raptor]

Was just so excited

that i didnt have to restart the whole ||pantheon||

anyways will i be able to beat ||markoth in p5 even if i didnt beat him ascended||

[stoic cedar]

yea, ||markoth has significantly less health in p5 compared to ascended||

[glossy raptor]

||200 less and the fact that he doesnt do double damage means i MIGHT be able to reach absrad||

hes the only threat

[thick wing]

Gg I finally got the achievement

[glossy raptor]

FUCK

||DIED TO FUCKING NO EYES||

[thick wing]

When?

[prisma harness]

||i need tactics on the crystal guy at the bench||

[thick wing]

Just jump over his lazers

And use double jump

[prisma harness]

i dont have

||his jump hits me||

||does he target me with the jump||

[thick wing]

Dash under him

[thick wing]

No

[slender plinth]

||you can use your dash to extend your air time||

[prisma harness]

thanks

[prisma harness]

that hits the lasers

[shut sparrow]

please use tags in this channel || like this ||

[glossy raptor]

yeah

[thick wing]

Ok

[thick wing]

Damn that sucks

[prisma harness]

||the way to the boss is too long||

[shut sparrow]

can you please edit your past messages?

[glossy raptor]

i was so gassed to fight ||markoth in p5|| for the first time

i got cocky 😔

[thick wing]

Do u have || nail upgrades? ||

[prisma harness]

||my bench is like at the bottom of crystal mines and the boss is at top||

[glossy raptor]

do you want to cheese him

[prisma harness]

||i updraged it once||

[glossy raptor]

or beat him legit

[prisma harness]

legit

[thick wing]

Upgrade it nrie

[prisma harness]

||will get some more money and masks as i only have 1 extra||

[shut sparrow]

@thick wing please read the channels pins first. Everything from the game needs to be tagged here (so some of your other messages as well).
Additionally try not to mention anything the person asking for help might not know yet. So don't ask "do you have..." or say "use..." unless you're certain they have it. To check you can always ask to see their inventory

[prisma harness]

||if i didnt have died like a million times in deepnest i would be swimming in geo||

[glossy raptor]

was like my 4th attempt at ||p5|| and now the next roadblock is ||no eyes 😭?||

[bright sorrel]

🦑

[shut sparrow]

||noeyes isn't bad for your 4th try||

[glossy raptor]

it was ||sos, marmu (somehow), uumuu and now no eyes||

[shut sparrow]

sos

[glossy raptor]

||sisters of battle||

[shut sparrow]

I'm just as shocked

[shut sparrow]

I mean that's good improvement with each attempt

[glossy raptor]

||ive been trying to do ascended markoth for a long time||

but got bored of dying in the second phase so i went back to ||p5 only to do to no eyes||

[prisma harness]

where should i go if i need money

[glossy raptor]

the ||2 moss knights in greenpath||

or

||if u unlocked king station go to the left and kill the husk guards, return back and bench to reset them||

[pliant mural]

|| hey so im using hk file analyzer to see if i have all the charms and it says i have them all? but im confused because im missing one. I am about to fight radiance so is the last charm tied to that or something? ||

[glossy raptor]

W compass

[inner robin]

||its not tied to radiance||
Gimme a second I’ll give you a hint as to where it is

[glossy raptor]

||deepnest||

have fun

[inner robin]

||closer to the Hera side of deepnest in a sub-area||

[pliant mural]

|| is it a hidden charm or one from a boss in deepnest? ||

[inner robin]

No boss

[pliant mural]

|| could you please draw a circle like in the general area? ||

[pliant mural]

ty!!!

[noble lodge]

Why does my game look staticy?

Im on highest resolution

[shut sparrow]

do you have V-sync turned on?

[noble lodge]

no

[shut sparrow]

try it with it on

[south cobalt]

do i need ||mothwings|| to be able to get to ||honret in kindoms edge?||

bru i forgot where to getr them -_-

what area are they in ||resting grounds||?

[hearty tulip]

technically no, but it’s supposed to be required

[shut sparrow]

||ancient basin||

[hearty tulip]

yeah ^

[shut sparrow]

hi 🥕

it can't be

the real general grievous??!

[thick wing]

yo I'm making cameos these days

[south cobalt]

ohhh

im at the ||colleseum||