hk-help

[onyx tulip]

don't tell anymore and wait to know if he will understand

yup, but how to get thrue ?

[tough saffron]

no idea

[onyx tulip]

hehe u will see

[tough saffron]

asuming once i get ||2400 esscence||

[jaunty night]

watch him get SS instead

[tough saffron]

but i have fought every boss i have no idea where to get more

[onyx tulip]

SS ?

[jaunty night]

|| sealed siblings ||

[onyx tulip]

ok

[onyx tulip]

just go to ||black egg temple||

[tough saffron]

bet

[onyx tulip]

and u will have for a some time to play

[tough saffron]

that sounded like a threat

[onyx tulip]

haha, noo, it's just that when you'll understand of what I'msaying and u will fight you will need time to beat. ||You didn't fought all bosses|| And, ||have you done NKG, nightmare king grimm|| ?

[tough saffron]

THERE IS WORSE ||GRIMM||???

[onyx tulip]

Yup

[tough saffron]

I BARLY TOUCHED IM MY FIRST 3 TRIES

[onyx tulip]

gg

but if you ||banished him it won't||

[onyx tulip]

I need 54 tries to|| NKG||, in like 1h15, with 30sec before the start of the fight lol

[tough saffron]

i almost quit the game 3 times i aint beating ts aw naaah

[inner robin]

hi this is called uneccerary spoilers and not allowed in the help channel for future refrence! (check the pinned messages for more details)

[dull venture]

Is ||Trial of the Fool|| required for the 100% conpletion achievement

[simple island]

Yesn’t

[inner robin]

also this needs to be spoiler tagged please
(thank you!)

[onyx tulip]

okmy ba sry

[simple island]

It does award a %, ||but there are in total 112% in the game||

So

Yesn’t

[tribal dove]

NOOOOOOO

[jaunty night]

|| for 100% you can skip whatever you want, but 100 is not the max percentage in HK thanks to dlc content ||

[onyx tulip]

sryyy

[tribal dove]

I DIED TO ||ABSRAD|| SECOND PHASE

ARE YOU KDDING ME?

I HAD ALMOST KILLED HIM

[simple island]

Wdym by second phase ?

[jaunty night]

Uhh this is help channel

[tribal dove]

I need help to not do damage to myself

[simple island]

Platforms ?
Because if so… you still have more to go

[tribal dove]

How can I cope with this loss

[jaunty night]

|| btw second phase is not the end ||

[tribal dove]

Wdym more? The final climb to kill him or is there more

[jaunty night]

More

[tribal dove]

I was on platforms

WHAT

IRS NOT THE END

[dull venture]

||I just want he achievement so I want to know what counts as base game and what counts toward the extra 12% cuz I'm at like 104% and haven't gotten the achievement yet||

[simple island]

Beating ||Absrad|| is a complicated process which includes dying half a dozen hundred death

[tribal dove]

It was my first attempt so it would’ve been pretty crazy

[simple island]

Also ||climb|| is not trivial at all
If this was your first time reaching plats (which is the hardest phase) you still have a long long way to go

[tribal dove]

No way

[onyx tulip]

||i think you need to fight one of the ending bosses to have the achievment||

[simple island]

Go die to her a couple dozen hundred times in the ||hall of gods||

That is the only way

[tribal dove]

I thought it was like the normal version😭😭😭😭

[jaunty night]

|| I would recommend using a 112 guide on reddit to see what you're missing ||

[simple island]

You need to beat the game, as the name of the achiev tells you

[dull venture]

I dont wanna fight ||radiance||🙏

[simple island]

(Which includes beating the game again)

[inner robin]

||I've always died more to climb but yeah plats is the hardest part of a rather difficult long bossfight|| it's tottally normal that you died

[simple island]

||Whichever ending|| does not matter

[onyx tulip]

||no need, just sealed vessel||

[tribal dove]

Oh alr

Bro I can’t might fighting ||p5|| again

[dull venture]

Oh got that

[jaunty night]

Fight in || hall of gods to practice||

[tribal dove]

And then even after that I gotta complete it again with ||flower given to godseeker||

[tribal dove]

Yeak ik

[onyx tulip]

||lol, 1h boss fight for u again||

[tribal dove]

Yeah

Didn’t take me that long to get to him

Like 30 minutter probably

Minutes

[onyx tulip]

u'r a kindna good to the game, gg

[pallid ice]

I dont think so there isnt a steam achivment for it at least

[tribal dove]

Ty man

[inner robin]

please spoiler tag your message!

but yeah there's no achievment

[humble vale]

||Hi, is there a trophy related to putting my geo into the bank with Millibelle then interacting at end?||

[tacit mica]

y'all im trying to ||speedrun godhome, and when i tried to do pantheon 4 it showed me this, though i did defeat the hollow knight??||

||this is steel soul btw if this adds anything||

[humble vale]

tried to edit but couldn't so I posted the message again. thank you for reminding me 😅

[inner robin]

well ||that's not THK|| for one

[tacit mica]

||and if this is pure vessel, then i really cannot fight em before p4 durrrr||

[inner robin]

I'm 90% sure it's ||traitor lord||

[tacit mica]

LOOOOL

OK OK

bro

i thought i had to fight

||pure vessel before p4||

I was extremely confused omg

[inner robin]

nah

[tacit mica]

thank you

[inner robin]

yeah that isn't possible I can understand your confusion

but ||there's a different number of prongs on the inside of the horns so you can tell a difference if you look closely||

[onyx tulip]

but ||isn't traitor lord in P4||

[inner robin]

yes

[tacit mica]

true, guess im a FAKE fan.

[tacit mica]

Yeah i just remembered

holy shit tho lmao

[inner robin]

well I'm glad I could offer a quick reminder!

[tacit mica]

thank youu

[inner robin]

also if your ||godhome speedrun includes p5 you need voidheart to accsess it anyways||

[tacit mica]

i know, ||i already did p5 before on a different save so im just trying to grab a bunch of percentages asap for the u-20hr
achievement||

[inner robin]

ahh

[tacit mica]

but thank you tho

[inner robin]

well in that case it's probably quicker to skip it

[tacit mica]

Welllll i kind of forgot how to actually get ||100% so I'm just trying to do all the things i can remember||

||i mean its better than finding all the charms but I'll have to do that either way||

[pallid ice]

||theres a online checklist if that helps||

[tacit mica]

ahh, that makes sense

[inner robin]

yeah it's convenient

[tacit mica]

But i guess its kind of too late now, google ai overview kept spitting bullshit

so i had to memorize everything

[pallid ice]

yeah googles really bad at hollow knight, ||id say just get all charms do all the bosses and get all masks/soul also godhome isnt required for 100% runs||

[tacit mica]

||ah I see, thank you very much, I'll be proceeding with getting all the charms after p4 since im already at it, i appreciate it||

[pallid ice]

||also have you gotten all grubs yet?||

[tacit mica]

no not really I've gotten only ||31||

||you know for the pale ore, pretty sure i can do 100% without getting all the grubs, also i suck at finding them even with the collector's map so it would eat up my remaining time||

[pallid ice]

||ok thats not bad i made the mistake of leaving them all to the end when i was doing 100% a bit ago, also idk you could try ig pale ore, also make sure youve gotten all spell upgrades||

[tacit mica]

||oof, i honestly start with the grubs so i can finish everything else quicker, but yeah spell upgrades are pretty essential to me, i do get them first at the start of any run, because getting pure nail could be a bit difficult at the start||

[pallid ice]

||thats true, i feel like everyone always says spells are better then the nail but for me if i try and do p5 with spells ill die so quickly but with nail i get to abs rad, but spells do make sense||

[tacit mica]

||that's true too, i find myself more comfortable with the nail but some spells like descending dark do be saving my life a lot of times, (iframes peak)||

[simple island]

||Spells|| are especially good before you reach ||godhome
Getting ddark is much simpler than getting strength and all nail upgrades||

Like to get ||ddark, shade soul and shaman stone all you need to do is explore peaks and soul sanctum
To get pure nail or even just coiled you need to go lots of places||

[pallid ice]

||i guess thats true, i thinks its mostly because spells stop you in place which prevents me from dodging||

[tacit mica]

||honestly i can't defeat absrad without ddark, its truly peak||

[jaunty night]

|| shriek is a life saver on absrad ||

[tacit mica]

||only when im not getting hit lol, because most of the time when I use it I tend to get hit right after, its probably because i suck at timing my attacks lmao||

[pallid ice]

||idk maybe i just rush spells on abs rad too much, but it seems like with spells im always taking damage because shriek wont let me move||

[tacit mica]

true!

[jaunty night]

|| usually best to use right after you shade dash through the light barrier and there's no attack coming ||

[tacit mica]

||i always wait until she's done with her attack, like the sun beams attack when i dodge the last beam i use it immediately||

[tacit mica]

||that's true, but light barriers can also follow up with different attacks sometimes||

[pallid ice]

||yeah but what in the world do you do in last phase you just cant get a shriek off without getting hit?||

[jaunty night]

|| that's why I'm lucky I'm a nail main because absrad is a bully with attack combos||

[tacit mica]

||like the last last phase? I honestly pogo her to death, if i stand on the platforms for 1 second I'll get absolutely fried||

[simple island]

You can get one at the very start, but yeah not after
You can use ||shade souls and ddarks though||

[tacit mica]

true

[jaunty night]

I just damage tanked and spammed

[bright sorrel]

[jaunty night]

|| you can usually heal before the climb because her aim is trash ||

[pallid ice]

||nail kinda carrys me in a lot of bosses ngl, also i cant damage tank because theres no time to heal inbetween phase 2 and 3 so im at like 5 health:(||

[tacit mica]

||her aim might be trash but im stupid enough to run into the beams❤️💔||

[jaunty night]

lmao I've done that twice

[tacit mica]

Not bad not bad I've lost count myself

[bright sorrel]

the main strategies are to use ||dash slash, double shriek at the start, pogo, or just stay on the left platform and do side slashes||

[tacit mica]

👀

[pallid ice]

||time to test that ig, i also get the felling you do abs rad as a warm up lol||

||the main problem is the background is the same color as the orbs so i cant see a thing||

[sterile ember]

is ||grubfly elegy|| a good option for extra damage in ||radiant fights||?

[pallid ice]

||id say its more of a meme charm but for raidant markoth its a god, but it also depends on your prefernce because it can be usefull in some scenerios but typically theres way better charms to get||

[sterile ember]

huh

ghost ping

[pallid ice]

lol

[tribal dove]

I can’t wait to spend the next days dying ||to absrad in p5|| because I feel like practicing that fight kinda ruins it

Also wanna hear the loadout imma do ||p5|| hitless with

|| qs, unstrength, shaman Stone, twister and then compass||

Gonna first try it hitless definite

[solid heart]

Believe me, practice doesn't ruin anything

One thing will always be different ||from HoG to the pantheon||

Nerves and pressure

[tribal dove]

True true

I just feel like it’ll ruin it because it’s the final one

Plus it’s gonna be alright imma do it like second try

[tranquil oriole]

but also if you practice ||ascended or radiant, the pantheon|| will feel easier a little bit

not just bc you can take a hit here and there and it’s no problem, but also bc the hp pool is so much less

[jaunty night]

you are most definetly not getting it second try

[radiant raft]

No he’s definitely got it

Trust

[next acorn]

what do you need help with?

it is

[jaunty night]

omg not again

[knotty stratus]

it is spoilered

[jaunty night]

i keep clicking on the spoiler then forgetting i clicked 😭

[golden prawn]

#hk-discussion message

I can't send pictures in the main channel yet, in regards to this conversation.

I'm trying to make 11k geo to repair the ||strength charm ||and I general idk where to go

||I have the tram pass, and all movement abilities.
But I'm just not sure what to do now other than main story(dreamers)||

[jaunty night]

|| do some dreamers ||

[knotty stratus]

also btw probably put spoilers on things like ||strength charm, tram pass, and dreamers||

[jaunty night]

^

[knotty stratus]

probably focus on main story for now

[golden prawn]

The best farming route I'm familiar with is the ||floating worms that shoot babies at you, up near the dreamer in deepnest||
But it's not good enough to make 11k, is there anything else?

[radiant raft]

How much of your map is filled in?

[knotty stratus]

||have u explored the top part of kingdoms's edge, and do u have many relics?||

[jaunty night]

|| colloseum 2 is much better ||

[golden prawn]

I haven't been there

[next acorn]

a good way to farm geo is by going to the ||failed tramway||, the ||carver hatchers|| spawn ||dirtcarvers|| infinitely.

[jaunty night]

|| unb charms are completely unnecessary until late game ||

[next acorn]

you should also go to ||relic seeker lemm||, he gives a good amount of geo for ||relics||.

[golden prawn]

It's not infinite, it's five per ||carver hatcher||
That's what I've been doing so far

[knotty stratus]

i think thats what they were talking about when they said they were farming ||the floating worms that shoot babies at you||

[golden prawn]

||And yeah i did go to lemm but i only have 4k geo rn, i just spent around, 3k upgrading my nail twice||

Like twice over the base upgrade, the ones you need pail ore for

[jaunty night]

spoiler

[next acorn]

wait hold on what do you need geo for

[golden prawn]

||Making the fragile charms not fragile||

[next acorn]

oh

[jaunty night]

hes trying to ||get unb charms iirc ||

[golden prawn]

Yeah that

||i don't even have the fragile version anymore... She ate it||

[next acorn]

okay heres a good way

actually

its not a good way but it’ll get you some geo

[jaunty night]

|| i would progress main story more before grinding like that ||

[next acorn]

do you have ||kings station stag|| unlocked?

[golden prawn]

I do yeah

It's the ||"hidden station"|| right?

[next acorn]

no

the one in ||city of tears||, far right.

[golden prawn]

Oh uhhh

[knotty stratus]

thats the one in ||ancient basin||

[golden prawn]

Let me check one moment

[sweet coral]

||I did colloseum over and over to get geo for all my unbreakable charms||

[jaunty night]

that is the strat

[sweet coral]

it works rather quickly

[jaunty night]

thats why im saying he should progress more before going for a big grind

[golden prawn]

Oh yes i do have it

[golden prawn]

I honestly don't mind a grind, i put on a podcast, it's nice to pass the time

[jaunty night]

ok

[sweet coral]

have fun 🙂

[jaunty night]

|| do you have isma's tear? ||

[next acorn]

okay, go to ||kings station.||
go to the bottom of it, and go into the loading zone to the right.

[golden prawn]

I do

[jaunty night]

ok you can get to || collo ||

[next acorn]

hold on

[golden prawn]

I'm 90% sure I've gotten all movement based abilities

[knotty stratus]

u dont even need ||isma's for colo||

[golden prawn]

I have|| dive, the crystal heart, monarch wings, the tear ||

[jaunty night]

really? i thought there was a || acid pool in ke ||

[golden prawn]

Am i missing something

[sweet coral]

||You only need resting grounds to get to collo right?||

[golden prawn]

Alright...

[radiant raft]

There is there’s just an alternate route past it

[next acorn]

theres should be a pool of water in the room, jump in that water and swim to the right. You’ll find a secret room that’ll lead to ||kingdoms edge||.

[knotty stratus]

||there is an acid pool in the top right of the big room when u enter kingdom's edge, but really, its just a shortcut to get places faster. u can just continue into the bottem right, and then up, and still make it in the same location||

[sweet coral]

huh, must have forgotten

[golden prawn]

||Ah ok this is the road to the colosseum?||

[next acorn]

oh you wanna get to colo

i was leading you onto another path where you could grind enemies to get geo

[golden prawn]

Oh no no that's fine

I just thought that's it, I'll follow your lead

[knotty stratus]

yes (also, spoiler)

[jaunty night]

|| hoppers?||

[sweet coral]

most likely

it works too

[next acorn]

once you get in that secret room, go all the way to the right. once you enter the loading zone, you’ll find ||kingdoms edge||.
After finding ||KE||, you’re gonna want to go down platforms all the way down to the bottom of the room. There will be a loading zone that will lead into a room with around 4-6 enemies named ||hoppers.||

[golden prawn]

Ok i think I'm at the entrance, there's a ||big fat fuck over here floating||

Is there a bench somewhere here?

[next acorn]

No, the closest bench is the ||king’s station|| bench.

[golden prawn]

Ah ok

[jaunty night]

or || collo bench/ hidden camp bench ||

[golden prawn]

Oh i just got the map too that's nice

[next acorn]

so go to the bottom of the room, and go all the way to the right.

[golden prawn]

||there are small grey jumping things here||
Is this it?

[next acorn]

yup!

those are called ||hoppers||. They drop 16 geo, but 23 if ||fragile greed|| is equipped.

[golden prawn]

Aight, got it, thank you!

[next acorn]

they respawn when exiting and reentering the room, so you’ll just wanna do that over and over.

[golden prawn]

I'm not very good at the game and i need all the help i can get which is why I'm trying for the charm so early

[pallid comet]

i might cry i thought i was doing him|| radiant but i was ascended||

[jaunty night]

what do you need help with??

[pallid comet]

how to effectively|| dodge the bee swarm||

[jaunty night]

im not that good but in my experience || using shade dash is very helpful ||

probably not the most groundbreaking advice but practice is the best way

[solid heart]

Just use ||ddark|| at random

It ||kills the bees while making so the boss won't kill you||

I actually needed to use that today

If you want to see: ||https://youtu.be/k7UVwU3TP34?t=11m50s||

[stoic cedar]

||its worth mentioning that hive knight always does the dash attack after bee swarm so u should be anticipating that. I like to hit hive knight while he’s summoning bees, then right as he initiates the dash I would ddark to dodge it||

[pallid comet]

i did it holy shit

i just realized today i can ||ddark without the need to jump , i can just press the spell and down button for it work||

i used to jump then ||spell and down button||

stupid bitch

[sweet coral]

I then saw a skurry vid and was blown away

[static axle]

you mean ||ddark||?

[pallid comet]

yes

[hallow elk]

im not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i heard i can download a 112% save file somewhere around here to make modding through godhome easier?

[frigid anchor]

||can i get all endings on my first save file?||

[hollow bramble]

yes

[burnt siren]

you can be locked out of two slight variations based on game progression, but those are just minor cutscene changes

[pallid comet]

so i got a mod charm that reduce my hp to 1||is it considered cheating to doit with fury of the fallen to do radiant bosses with it??||

[burnt siren]

otherwise theyre all accessible at all times

[burnt siren]

obviously cheating if youre using a mod to help yes

but like who cares its a singleplayer game

you do you

[pallid comet]

i thought its fine cause it makes me proc ||fury faster ||

[radiant raft]

I’m gonna guess that angry little try hard’s would care about it.

[burnt siren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic cedar]

||u can’t proc fury with radiant, u die in one hit||

[radiant raft]

He has a mod that brings him to one HP

[stoic cedar]

||read the msg im replying to again, he is saying the mod helps to proc fury faster, but im telling him its not possible to proc fury in radiant fights in the first place||

[burnt siren]

who knows what their mod does

[pallid comet]

i removed it

[pallid comet]

it adds a charm that only reduce your hp to 1

[burnt siren]

well there ya go

[pallid comet]

was close

fckkkkkkkkkkkk

[burnt siren]

youll get it soon enough

[pallid comet]

i hate that map

is there a mod that overhauls it

it bugs like crazy

[burnt siren]

no idea

but anyways dont worry about what people call cheating because everyone has a different threshold. for me HP mods are cheating for example

[pallid comet]

good no?

[stoic cedar]

||Yes this is decent for most radiant fights, u can also consider replacing sprint master with steady body or replace mark of pride for soul eater||

[pallid comet]

||pride are so good against hornet||

i cant pogo otherwise

[burnt siren]

in my experience ||mark of pride pretty much always is better than soul eater for overcharming||

theres a few niche exceptions ig

[hollow monolith]

What are some good charms for fighting ||Nightmare Grimm||? Been struggling with him for a bit

[stoic cedar]

Depends what u have, send ur charm inventory. But tbh ||nkg is one of those bosses that it’s more important to learn his move set than anything else||

[burnt siren]

charms dont really help on that fight much... i guess ||heart|| then :P or just a damage up

[hollow monolith]

||I did not mean to have fragile greed equipped. Swapped from Shamanstone and meant to out fragile heart ||

[hollow bramble]

||how many hits can u get in between his attacks? quickslash might not be good here depending on how well u can capitalize off his attacks. mark of pride is definitely something worth considering to get, and imo nailmasters feels too clumsy for me but if it works for u, go for it. if u have any extra notches go for stuff u prefer||

[glossy shell]

||I gave the delicate flower to traitor lords son, does that mean I can't give it to anyone else now and I'm locked out of the godseeker?||

[stoic cedar]

||u can pick up flowers at the grave now||

||its actually more convenient at the grave since there is no hard save for picking up the flower there. That means u can save and quit to teleport to the last bench u sat on, making most of the other flower quests much easier||

[autumn garnet]

|| not important to the question but important to the lore: she's actually his daughter which is pretty cool ||

[tranquil oriole]

spoiler tag

[kindred whale]

||i believe you can pick up some of the flowers that grew on the grave when you completed the quest||

i dont know for 100% sure tho

but i remember hearing that somewhere

[round cape]

Planning ||to fight the radiance for the first time, what's the ideal build?||

[knotty stratus]

||personally, for me it is shamans stone, quickslash, strength, and spell twister. this way i profit heavily off of using both spells and nail, since for me they are equally important in this fight. ||

[round cape]

||Noted, thanks||

[glossy shell]

Ohhh I see thanks!

[jaunty night]

|| depends on what you prefer, nail or spell ||

[glossy shell]

||I DIDNT KNOW SHE DIED 😭😭||

[round cape]

Always been more of a ||nail|| fan but ||spells are fun too||

[jaunty night]

|| the ideal nail build I use is strength, mop, quick slash, and heart ||

|| but the hybrid build is also a viable option during radiance fight ||

[round cape]

Might just do that

See what works for me

Thank you pancake man

[jaunty night]

Np

[undone jacinth]

||for radiance , it's not an easy fight so spells help you to move it forward
Plus you would still need to do nail hits for all the remaining damage
Also ddark is very useful for avoiding her attacks tho i myself didn't use it
What spells do you have||

[round cape]

||I have all spells upgraded to shadow||

[undone jacinth]

Yeah ||then abyss shried in big attack windows helps a lot||
My strategy to fight her was ||abyss shriek 4 times at the start and skip the phase 1 part 1
Then get through the other 2 parts by nail
Then for phase 2 it was also entirely nail because i just couldn't get a lucky position to get shriek hits in
And the last phase is also nail||

||abyss shriek is a great supplement to make fight shorter so you can last through the entire fight, since nail damage isn't exactly easy (for me atleast) because you need to constantly avoid her attacks||

[round cape]

Noted
Written down
Thank you
Now im ready

[onyx tulip]

good luck, ||it's a very hard fight||

[undone jacinth]

[round cape]

||Love me a challange||

👍

I will

[crimson jungle]

||can i get the dream no more ending even after ive done the hollow knight ending?||

[tranquil oriole]

yes

the only ||ending|| you can be locked out of is the first one

[crimson jungle]

alr thanks

[tranquil oriole]

i guess you could say ||no flower GE|| but that’s not really relevant
but you can get ||dream no more|| yes

[stuck heron]

||Guys is there a way to heal in the godseeker room? I'm on 1 maks after soul tyrant||

[formal dust]

||the room before the final boss? nuh uh||

[stuck heron]

And I do know what comes next

[formal dust]

have fun!

have you done it before

in ||hall of gods||

[stuck heron]

No it WAS (I died already lmao) my first encounter with it

Going to practice him now

[formal dust]

oh

at least you unlocked it now

[zinc verge]

||umm no hit him
then keep healing during his staggers and focus attack||

[stuck heron]

Yeah I know I just got too excited after I almost beat him and I started to lose ||masks|| on stage 2

[zinc verge]

||good luck
remember
if you can beat him on ascended even once then you beat P4 basically||

but for now
just practice ||attuned||

[stuck heron]

||He does 2 damage I can't hit him he's too fast||

[rugged veldt]

Uhhh who's that? ||soul tyrant still||?

[stuck heron]

I remember seeing those tik toks of people struggling with ||pv|| and I thought it looked too easy to struggle with. Little did I know bro would be spamming attacks like hell

[rugged veldt]

Oh ||PV||?

[half hornet]

????

[rugged veldt]

?

[half hornet]

how the hell do i go up

[rugged veldt]

Perhaps an ability is required, one that you do not currently have

[half hornet]

oh shi

||cdash|| i forgot

yeaa

[rugged veldt]

You have it?

[half hornet]

yeaa

obviously

[rugged veldt]

Well pretty nice then

[neat karma]

Kreest

hiiiii

[half hornet]

i legit lost 5k geo there 😭

[rugged veldt]

Oooh ismoil

Hi mate how are ya

[radiant raft]

No

[neat karma]

Moiling

Very of the moiling

[static thunder]

anyone got some tips for ||pantheon 5||

[weary moon]

First of all pls spoiler tag.

[terse pasture]

whoopsie

[weary moon]

And you might wanna ask in modding help.

[terse pasture]

I can't understand that channel where do I type

[weary moon]

In the top right is a button with new post.

[terse pasture]

oh I think I kind of fixed it? ||carefree melodie is normaly 3 notches right?||

[weary moon]

Yes

[glossy shell]

|| Will a fragile charm work to get salubras blessing? I got the unbreakable heart and unbreakable strength but I have a broken greed(NOT fragile greed, it broke.) ||

im pretty sure || Notch|| needs to be tagged

[terse pasture]

might as well ||fix it then||

[glossy shell]

eh worth a shot i guess

[terse pasture]

the good one

[mint nest]

names ?

[glossy shell]

Can you send an image of the ones available?

[terse pasture]

your own preference bro

your game

[mint nest]

alr

[glossy shell]

make sure to spoiler tag it

[terse pasture]

pick the ones you want

[terse pasture]

||why are you going to fungal wastes with every charm in the game||

[glossy shell]

Huh

[terse pasture]

||bro beat nkg before he entered wastes 😭 ||

[glossy shell]

Send an image of the shop

[mint nest]

oh okay*

[terse pasture]

then where tf was that image from

[glossy shell]

Go in the shop and send an image of the charms available to buy

[mint nest]

let me turn on my console wait

[mint nest]

internet 💀

[terse pasture]

why would you spoil yourself on what the rest of the charms look like

[glossy shell]

All good I'm eating anyways so take your time

[neat karma]

Whats even going on in here rn

[terse pasture]

he obviously meant the charms that you currently have or can buy, he literally said "of the ones available"

[terse pasture]

no clue

[glossy shell]

You back yet?

[mint nest]

wait let me find shop location 😂

alr

thks

[glossy shell]

||get shaman stone and equip it immediately||

[mint nest]

okayyy

[neat karma]

@mint nest @glossy shell please remember to spoiler tag all ingame content

[stuck heron]

Been practicing ||PV||. I can staggered him 2 times so far

[terse pasture]

Huge tip use ||sharp shadow||

||i used it for all of p5 on my winning attempt and is how i beat pv on radiant||

||dashing through him does 1.5 your nail damage and since he lets you do it so much sharp shadow ends up doing like half the damage in the fight||

[mint nest]

yea sorry this time i forgot

[neat karma]

Huge tip ||dont use sharp shadow||

||it does the same damage as one nail hit and changes your dash distance which can mess you up in fights other than pv, its unreliable most of the time and it doesnt do anything that pogoing cant help you with||

[terse pasture]

Hater

My favorite charm in the game

[neat karma]

I suggest you ||jump before basically every of its attack, pogoing can literally counter half of them and double jumping avoids the other||

[terse pasture]

||Dashing through him allows for ample time to slash away at his health making the fight go by way way way faster||

[neat karma]

||same damage as if you used sharp shado but you dont get weird distances, can save your shadow dash in case you need it after an attack, and doesnt force you to move halfway across the map, plus it sould help much if youre already dashing agaisnt a wall||

[stuck heron]

I have ||dream wielder and sbody || and yeah it does mess up the pattern a little I just got used to fighting without it

[terse pasture]

whatever, do whatever you want just know that ||sharp shadow is unbelievably underated||

[neat karma]

||and it also leaves you vulnerable to the next attack if your dash isnt recharged||

[terse pasture]

Its always recharged

Just in time

[neat karma]

No thats just not true

||pv can do some crazy fast attacks in a row||

[terse pasture]

It is bro its how i did ||radiant||

[neat karma]

Can you NOT use that phrasing

[terse pasture]

||Its really easy with sshadow||

[neat karma]

Tags

[terse pasture]

Believe me

God i keep forgetting

[neat karma]

Im just sharing the other side of the argument, its important to be aware of these things upfront to prevent bad habits and easily avoidable situations

[terse pasture]

I could show you me ||fighting pv i always have shade cloak just in time||

||it boosts the dps so fast||

can do the fight in like 30ish seconds

[neat karma]

||An experienced player will always be able to beat off a challenge like this of course you can do it in 30 seconds if youve done it radiant||

||youve shared your pros ive shared my cons and warnings its ultimately up for them to decide which outweights which||

[terse pasture]

||dash through every attack except for pillars where you just walk up to him and slash him as he smashes the ground and ddark for his focus attack and the tentacles, foolproof strat bro trust me||

[terse pasture]

Only with ||sharp shadow though||

[neat karma]

Im not even going to get into ||how bad this can be in teaching them the attack patterns and how it can mess up other bosses by over relying on a charm, which is something you pretty much should never do, because i know that however much we fight about the topic its them who get to decide||

[glossy shell]

|| For salubras blessing do I srsly have to get the other half of the white fragment ||

[neat karma]

Yes

[glossy shell]

|| Aw man, i was planning on using it for the white palace since I got hiveblood and other things ||

[stuck heron]

||The problem is I am practicing it for p4 so it's either I equip sshadow for the whole p4 or change it after white defender but neither of those fit me. I have memorized their patterns to perfection without using sshadow so that would mess up the fights||

[neat karma]

Exactly why i dont recommend using it

||i wont deny pv is one of the few bosses that sharp shadow better works on, i just say that you should never over rely on anything and that its bad to have to change your whole strategyand repractice all the other fights to try and fit in something that doesnt do much better work than a core mechanic||

Once again for this fight i suggest ||pogoing, a lot,if you jump before hand youll avoid most of their attacks, practice by double jumping first, learn how the attacks look and what they do and then practice how to decide when you should double jump and when to pogo and attack||

This can also help you ||practice your pogoing skills for other pogo heavy fights which is a nice plus||

[stuck heron]

||Would you recommend to pary the swing swing swing attack? ||

[neat karma]

||Parrying in this game sucks, it wont help you avoid the attack, just pogo everything, that usually means an accidental parry and thats fine, i just dont think your pogo damages pv if its parried||

Not like theres anything to do about that

||if he ever does that attacl or the one where he dashes across the screen you could always look the other way and throw a fireball to get quite a bit of damage if you think youre able to||

[stuck heron]

Yeah I just had an idea and it immediately got disapproved (tk's nail attack cool down is too long even with ||qslash||)

[neat karma]

||dive works just aswell and gives you invincibility, use it as a panic get out of jail card||

[neat karma]

if im thinking the same yeah that wouldve been so cool

||either way pv moving infront of you would get you hit even if you parried all the swings||

[terse pasture]

||I used sharp shadow for all of p5 not switching any charm for any section idk sharp shadow is the most underrated charm in the game, thats why I love it||

[neat karma]

Or you just build a habit to it and cant stop using it

Which is the exact reason i dont reccommend it

[terse pasture]

no lmao its just really useful

[neat karma]

||two notches for less than a nail hits damage and unconsistent dashing is not something i like reccommending||

||specially when you could be using said two notches for everything from more soul, more spell casting, easier hit recovery, or more consistent attacking||

[terse pasture]

i play the game completely different than you damn

||i never use spells besides the occasional ddark if im in danger||

[neat karma]

Im here to help make the game easier for people after all

Of course im going to suggest what makes them be better

[terse pasture]

nail shreds faster than people think and i js despise the fact that ||spells lock you in to place for half a second when you use them||

[neat karma]

||nail shouldnt be discredit, its very strong on its own, but spells shouldnt be either, the perfect way is to combine both of them and try to usd them according to thd situation instead of trying to force one way or another||

One should learn when to ||properly use the nail and when to use a spell, learning this can make stuff so much easier down the line due to the pure strength of using both attack methods||

[terse pasture]

idk || i have my own foolproof strat for any boss on any difficulty or any pantheon and since thats never failed me its what im suggesting||

[neat karma]

||for example if a boss is near you and then dashes back, you shouldnt use the spell near you, nor use the nail and try to chase it to its next attack, instead hot it with the nail when its nearby and then using a fireball when its going back which usually means the boss getting hit twice, this kinda stuff ups your damage input so much and its incredibly consistent to do if you oractice it instead of try to loo kfor an easy out||

[terse pasture]

||p5 GOAT for me||

[neat karma]

And Im suggesting something that can make them become a better player without having to sacrifice damage or make them need to revisualize every fight theyve learned

Which apparently is criminal because you were acting as if talking bad about ||sharp shadow was a felony ||

[acoustic sigil]

You know what I love

||Sharp shadow discussions||

[stuck heron]

I staggered ||pv(while he was mid-jump)|| mf dropped on me

[terse pasture]

||when i was practising absrad for p5 i had to practise with sharp shadow as well cause pv came right before absrad but i was surprised to see that sharpshadow isnt actually bad on absrad and went as well as it wouldve went if i had any other charm on||

[acoustic sigil]

I wish they happend more often actually

[neat karma]

Lmao

[neat karma]

Also ||4 notches to make sharp shadow somewhat usable and it STILL not doing the same or more as a nail hit shouldve been an indicator on if it was really worth it reccommending ||

[terse pasture]

wdym still not doing the saem or more as a nail hit

[acoustic sigil]

||A nail hit with strength does 32, ss does 21||

[terse pasture]

||idk im used to dashing thru everything||

[acoustic sigil]

Spoiler tags

[terse pasture]

||and with the extended dash you literally can||

[neat karma]

Tags

And every time you say that you just prove youre over relying on it and that its become a habit

[neat karma]

I said it for the second one come on 💔

[acoustic sigil]

That's fine but that doesn't make it good

[acoustic sigil]

Myb gang

[neat karma]

Smh my head

[terse pasture]

and i js beat ||pv with sshadow getting the last hit 😻||

||see it is good it just solo'd pv||

||sharp shadow solos all of p5 vro||

dont even need the knight

doesnt even need a bearer

[neat karma]

||i just beat pv sith the last hit being crystal dash i should reccommend everyone do it crystal dash only imo||

Frfr fr

[terse pasture]

||crystal dash requires a user tho||

||sshadow just kills everything by itself||

||wanna watch me try and redo pv radiant?||

[pallid comet]

any tips for || radiant godtamer||

[terse pasture]

||only pogo||

[pallid comet]

his acid spit is hard to deal with

[pallid comet]

whom exactly

[terse pasture]

||literally pogo him, try to not stay on the sides and look out for the tamer||

[terse pasture]

||the god||

||or beast||

idk

[pallid comet]

i should focus on the||beast more since the fight ends if he die||

[terse pasture]

||only focus on the beast||

||ignore the tamer only look out for when where its gonna land||

[pallid comet]

on me probably xfd

[terse pasture]

||god tamer is one of the most cheesable fights cause it can't counter you if you just keep pogoing||

[pallid comet]

damn i didnt know that

[terse pasture]

||surprised you beat him on ascended without knowing it lel||

[pallid comet]

so no ||spell build||

[terse pasture]

pls ask for any more help for ||radiant bosses||

||since im close to being done||

[pallid comet]

i spammed so much ||spells he didnt see it coming and i was reacting on time||

thats what i did so far

the easy ones

[terse pasture]

use spoiler tags vro

ts what mine looks like ignore the tiso 😭

[pallid comet]

peak

||i just started the god hall yesterday||

[terse pasture]

spoiler tags

vro

your gonna get your ass banned

[pallid comet]

[terse pasture]

||its honestly my favorite part of the game, besides sly and markoth||

[pallid comet]

||makoth|| ew

[terse pasture]

||i dislike markoth on an above average level||

[pallid comet]

||no platform against him is kidna annoying||

[terse pasture]

yeah kinda

just slightly

[pallid ice]

||there is a 9 minute video on why markoth sucks so idk||

[glossy shell]

||boutta enter white palace, any charm recommendations?||

[terse pasture]

||YES actually, HIVEBLOOD||

||you can't die with hiveblood||

an actual must

[glossy shell]

Wait actually??

[terse pasture]

||then ofc dashmaster sprintmaster||

[terse pasture]

yess

[glossy shell]

[terse pasture]

||and then maybe like mark of pride||

[pallid comet]

||elegy||

[terse pasture]

||i only did white palace once and never done path of pain but i remember hiveblood being clutch||

[glossy shell]

||grub song maybe?||

[terse pasture]

what 😭

[glossy shell]

What does that do

Isn't it for combat

[terse pasture]

how would ||elegy|| help at all

[neat karma]

||using elegy while grubsong is equipped recovers more soul per hit||

[pallid comet]

yes

[neat karma]

Tags

They quite clearly dont have that
-to the guy whose.message i deleted

[glossy shell]

Hmm okay

[pallid comet]

its ||markoth use it for range||

[glossy shell]

I do

Oh

[terse pasture]

we are talking about ||white palace vro ||

[pallid comet]

oh

[glossy shell]

||Okay so I currently have grubsong, elegy, hiveblood, sprint master and long nail||

[pallid comet]

yea ||take hive blood ,mark of pride , gurbsong and maybe deepfocus||

[glossy shell]

Ohh yea that last one exists I barely use it

[pallid comet]

its horrible

[pallid ice]

||Probably sob out elegy for deep focus||

[terse pasture]

||I'd personaly reccomend dashmater instead of elegy and for the extra notch slot mark of pride instead of long nail||

[terse pasture]

why

||your not gonna need to heal||

||hiveblood does all the work||

[glossy shell]

||That is the extra notch I'm pretty sure since I have 11||

[pallid comet]

i regret not knowing ||overcharms exists when i did the white palace||

[terse pasture]

||dont do overcharm bro||

idk anymore

do whatever you want but use ||hiveblood||

[neat karma]

Isnt that counter productive

[pallid comet]

i just knew it exist yesterday after 92 hours

[pallid ice]

||that is true but for a casual player waiting for hive blood to refill is a pain and just makes them sit there so personally I didn't use hive blood so it's based on preference||

[pallid comet]

its very good in some situations

some

[neat karma]

Most people rather ||waiting a bit than needing to redo the whole section they just did||

[neat karma]

||yeah but were talking about godhome, one of the places you want to conserve health the most?||

[pallid comet]

i spend 2 days only doing ||god halll and i got a percentage i thought it donnt give any||

[neat karma]

It doesnt

You did something else

[glossy shell]

I think I'll do some switch ups whenever I reach some checkpoints in there

[pallid comet]

wait does ||making a charm unbreakable give percentage||?

[pallid ice]

||that's true, HEY WAIT A MINUTE if someone is good enough at the game they really only need grubsong and deep focus to cover for healing because they can dream nail the guys who bow down to you, along with the flying kings molds give soul when you hit them so you can just farm it||

[neat karma]

Yes but if theyre asking for help with their first time why would we assume theyre "really good"

[neat karma]

no ||but if you had it with divine and then got it back youd recover the percent you lost when you gave it to her||

[pallid ice]

||not really if used correctly grubsong with deep focus gives 30ish heals||

[neat karma]

Im pretty sure you still lose soul so

[pallid comet]

ohhh

[neat karma]

Why are you complaining so much about something theyre not forced to do and is just a suggestion

[stuck heron]

Would be good to know on ||p3||

[pallid ice]

||You do but at a slow enough rate it doesn't matter that much as long as your not jumping into spikes 10 times||

[neat karma]

Or just let someone wait if they want to? Idk what the issue is?

Its not like we didnt reccommend both options

[pallid ice]

Yeah sorry maybe I went a little overboard mb

[neat karma]

[stuck heron]

I can't ||pogo pv|| cause skill issue. I just wait patiently for my turn to clap him lmao

||I got to the circle of light attack so far||

[shrewd wing]

before I reply how do I set up the censor boxes again?

[stuck heron]

|| on both sides

[shrewd wing]

||I would recommend using the mantis lords charm or the long nail charm, you can even combine them, it makes pogo and parrying much easier. Also if you like a nail build you can add unbreakable strength and grubsong or steady body. In the PV fight it's not really useful, at least to me, to have healing based charms. You just try to heal during staggers or the white circle attacks, all other times are too risky.||

||you can also switch the mantis lords charm for quick slash||

[stuck heron]

He's too fast, I can't jump high enough before he hits

[neat karma]

||jump BEFORE he attacks, spend most of your time in the fight on the air||

[shrewd wing]

Try to both jump and ||shadow dash|| away from him

[narrow sable]

||does beating nkg despawn the grim troupe? (the worm that makes fragile charms into unbreakable)||

[stuck heron]

That's the thing he attacks, I instantly try to jump he attacks again

[shrewd wing]

||I think so, I would try getting those charms first since I don't remember how it works if she has them currently||

[neat karma]

||Well pogoing recharges your double jump||

[stuck heron]

I know

[shrewd wing]

||Does double jumping and dashing to the other side not work?||

[narrow sable]

||if i die in the pantheon do fragile charms break or nah?||

[radiant raft]

||Killing NKG causes the troupe to leave but the person who makes the fragile charms unbreakable will stay until you get all unbreakables||

[narrow sable]

tell me someone please

[stuck heron]

Idk

[narrow sable]

||technically pantheons are dream realm right?||

[neat karma]

Tags

They ||dont break no||

[narrow sable]

thankl you

[stuck heron]

It says on Reddit that it won't break

Oh

Too late

[keen sundial]

||I need help on P4||

[somber hill]

ok how do u want help

what aspect

[keen sundial]

||what should I put on for P4||

[somber hill]

just the usual charm loadout for ||pantheons|| will work

which is

||shaman stone, qslash, strength and then the remaining 2 are usually spell twister or gsong+sbody, possibly nmg||

[magic mica]

can you still do ||pantheon 5|| if you ||banish the grimm troupe||

[somber hill]

yes

[magic mica]

is he just not there in ||p4|| and ||p5||

[somber hill]

u can't lock yourself out of anything unless it's the ||exact opposite option of something||

[somber hill]

are you sure about the latter

[magic mica]

huh

it was a question

[somber hill]

oh sry i misread

[frail musk]

||Does Shade disappear if I exit to title?||

[somber hill]

||he's always in fights he's meant to be in||

[somber hill]

no

[frail musk]

Ah okay ty

[magic mica]

ok so i can still fight him in ||hall of gods||

[somber hill]

well technically yes but it comes back once u enter back in

[somber hill]

yea

[magic mica]

thanks

[somber hill]

np

[frosty ocean]

Guys I forgot what does overcharmed does

[magic mica]

double damage taken

[frosty ocean]

No and then?

[magic mica]

what

[frosty ocean]

No other things?

[magic mica]

no

[frosty ocean]

Ok I’ll just look it up

Ok thanks

[formal dust]

hmm should i ||fight traitor lord on my steel soul speed comp||

she's not that hard but ||doing 2 hp per hit|| is a bit scary

[radiant raft]

Spoiler tag ||traitor lord and steel soul||

[formal dust]

i keep forgetting sorry

[radiant raft]

Not much point in doing it unless you’re going for the percents tied to him or ||DNM/ETV||

[formal dust]

||obviously it's for the 1% but idk if it's worth it||

ig i won't for now and if i'll be missing any i'll come back to it

[junior belfry]

111% in like 17 hours

112% under 20 soon 🤑

[junior belfry]

||quick slash, unb strength, shaman stone, steady body / spell twister||

[formal dust]

maybe if I'm fast enough I'll go for that on my ||steel soul|| lol

[junior belfry]

pretty sure im js missing a ||charm notch||

cuz i only got 10 instead of 11

[formal dust]

currently have like all the abilities and useful stuff in less than 5 hours

[junior belfry]

idk wheres the missing one tho

[formal dust]

really good pace

[formal dust]

||grimm? she gives one||

[junior belfry]

id do ||ss|| if ||primal aspids|| didnt exist

[junior belfry]

alr done that

also isnt he a guy

[formal dust]

||fog canyon? there's one there||

[formal dust]

right

it's confusing

he doesn't look like it

[junior belfry]

deos ||colo3|| give a ||notch?||

cuz im pretty sure i havent done that yet

[radiant raft]

No

[formal dust]

no, but ||colo 1|| does

[junior belfry]

alr done the first one

[radiant raft]

Have you bought out ||Sulubra?||

[formal dust]

if not, the only one missing is an early game one in ||fungal wastes||

[junior belfry]

yes

also i think the 1% remaining is ||colo3||

[formal dust]

then this

[junior belfry]

ill do that shit later

cant be bothered after i did all the ||pantheons|| in a row

besides the 5th one obv

[solid heart]

||P4 is much harder than the 3 colos combined lol||

[junior belfry]

i first tried all of them fr

also i can pretty consistently do ||ascended PV, and ive done him radiant||

[pseudo mason]

||is this jump possible for me?||

[solid heart]

No

[proper yew]

not unless you have an item called ||isma's tear||

[pseudo mason]

ok tysm

[half hornet]

guys is t||raitor lord|| too early for me? ||i have 7 masks, and these charms
||

[marble horizon]

I think not

[radiant raft]

You should get more charms and ||nocths|| first

[half hornet]

he does ||2 masks of dmg tho||

[marble horizon]

I beat the whole game i know

106% if i remember

[half hornet]

ima try one more time, if not then ill get ||notches and charms||

spoiler tg

plus how much dmg it do

[radiant raft]

The damage isn’t worth

[half hornet]

k

ill try one last time

[hollow bramble]

like most bosses that are difficult, learn how to deal with each attack and charms won't be necessary

[marble horizon]

It is posible without it to

[proper yew]

no.

[marble horizon]

I think i did it one time

Or im copeing

[half hornet]

whats a ||love key|| for

wha was that

wheer wha

also spolier tag

[marble horizon]

Ok

Let me google how to do it

[half hornet]

its jus || b4 and after

[marble horizon]

|a|

[half hornet]

like

[marble horizon]

| a|

[half hornet]

|| ||b4 then || ||

no like double the line

"||" b4 and after

[marble horizon]

| a |

[half hornet]

brudda

[marble horizon]

Im to dumb for this

[half hornet]

oh my god

its practically

like

[marble horizon]

Ohhhh

[half hornet]

like "||" this then a word then again the lines

[neat karma]

||like this||

[half hornet]

howd u get it to not spolier

[neat karma]

\

[half hornet]

oh

[marble horizon]

||a||

Ok thanks

[half hornet]

so what were u saying aabt ||love tower||?

@marble horizon

[marble horizon]

||the colector it there||

[half hornet]

hu

where

[marble horizon]

||in the love tower||

[neat karma]

Whats the question

[half hornet]

where is the tower

[neat karma]

If you havent encountered it then you just dont need to worry about it

But if you want to, can you show a picture of your map

[half hornet]

like fully zoomed out?

[neat karma]

Yeah

Dont forget to spoiler tag it

[half hornet]

ok

[undone jacinth]

||tower of love is in city of tears
From your messages seems like you already have love key
exit from king's station
Go down and go right, there is another stag sign
You'll see 2 mosquito
Keep going right until there is a path in the ceiling
Before the exit to kingdoms edge||

[half hornet]

oh that area

ive come across it but its always blocked

[dense barn]

you go through a different entrance first

[undone jacinth]

Now you have the ||key||

[half hornet]

k

[undone jacinth]

I forgot
||Do we need to get in from kindgoms edge first ?||

[dense barn]

yes

[undone jacinth]

My bad ||can you send kingdoms edge map||

I'll mark it

[half hornet]

here?

[half hornet]

k one sec

[dense barn]

the top purple bit

[half hornet]

but i legit cant get there

lemme try

ill find a way

[undone jacinth]

From 1 you can

[undone jacinth]

||you can't enter from 2 yet
Go to kingdoms edge then try path 1||

[half hornet]

so not go into ||the elevator and climb upwards and through that go there?||

[undone jacinth]

😵‍💫
My image vanished

[undone jacinth]

||you could go to resting grounds and then drop down the elevator, then take thw shortcut to Colosseum and then drop down from above to 1||

[neat nymph]

||you need love key||

[undone jacinth]

He has it

[neat nymph]

oh okay

[half hornet]

||colosseum||?

ok where the hell am i

[undone jacinth]

||you need to run the long way
You haven't unlocked thw shortcut||

My apologies ..... You can save quit

So that you don't need to work more

[half hornet]

i went to ||restinig grounds||

then found sum called||sould eater||

and then now im quitting

cuz

im confused as hell

idek what to do

[half hornet]

yea no

ill do that later

but ill save this img

[marble horizon]

Just a better soul catcher

[half hornet]

oh

[undone jacinth]

||My bad , i missed that you haven't visited the top of kingdoms edge
And referred to a shortcut you didn't have
You should do it sometimes
There's something at the very top of kingdoms edge||

[jaunty night]

That's the path to || tower of love ||

[undone jacinth]

Yes

He was asking where to use ||love key||

[jaunty night]

Oh

I must've not seen that

[tough saffron]

this is the second time i beat ||THK|| and this time ||silksong|| came to help but when se stunned him was i supposed to use the ||dreamnail?||

[jaunty night]

Yes

[tough saffron]

shit

how do i skip credits?

[jaunty night]

Can't

[tough saffron]

do i need any ||charm|| to use the ||dreamnail, yes it is max level besides 2400 esscence||

[jaunty night]

No

[tough saffron]

gg thats the guy i saw on tiktok

i am cooked

noooo i have to do it all again

[jaunty night]

If you're struggling || try saving up your soul during thk so you are at max to fight radiance, as entering the fight heals you completely ||

[formal dust]

dying in a ||pantheon|| in ||steel soul|| doesn't make you lose right?

[tough saffron]

nah i actually cannot do this

[neat karma]

||indeed you wont lose the file||

[tough saffron]

he has twice the hp of ||THK|| right?

[neat karma]

who?

[tough saffron]

||the raidance||

[neat karma]

almost but not quite, ||She has 1.7x thk's health||

and by that i mean || 1700||

[jaunty night]

It doesn't

[tough saffron]

yeah how do i actually beat this?

[jaunty night]

Do you have all || mask shards? Also what charms are you using? ||

Oh and another good strategy is || spamming shriek onto her as soon as the fight starts ||

[tough saffron]

hol up gimme a sec

[jaunty night]

oh god

[neat karma]

that explains stuff

[jaunty night]

|| ok so thorns of agony needs to get out ||

[neat karma]

first of all ||thorns is horrible it takes up iframes and has negligible damage||

[jaunty night]

so does || dashmaster||

[tough saffron]

nooooo

its so good tho

goodbye my love 😦

[neat karma]

||and sharp shadow is not going to do much for you either||

||horrible damage and inconsistent dashes that can harm you when evading attacks||

[tough saffron]

its good for ||THK||

i think

[neat karma]

not its not really ever "good"

okay at best

usually not worth replacing anything else with

[jaunty night]

i would definetly use || shaman stone and spell twister ||

[tough saffron]

now if i need to spam ||
spells|| wont ||spell twister|| help?

yep

thx

[neat karma]

||quick focus can also help you if what you need is healing opportunities||

[neat karma]

||please tag spells||

[jaunty night]

|| if you like using nailarts you can keep nailmasters glory ||

|| and mop is ok just in general ||

[neat karma]

||grubsong is usually not AS great for double damage bosses but if you have a free space definitely fill it with that||

[tough saffron]

tbh i dont really ||wind up my attacks||

[jaunty night]

then switch that out for something a little more useful

[tough saffron]

any recomendations?

[jaunty night]

|| quick slash is really good for nail ||

you dont have it though

its in || kingdoms edge ||

[tough saffron]

i can go and find it

[jaunty night]

its on a || breakable floor next to oro's hut ||

[tough saffron]

thanks!

[golden prawn]

I'm trying to beat the ||second hornet fight but like holy fucking shit she just Won't die, she just has so much hp. ||

At some point it isn't about skill anymore if they just make the boss a sponge

[jaunty night]

|| your build is really good so im not sure what the issue is ||

[tough saffron]

btw is there a mod for ||binding spells that require 2 keys pressed at once into 1 button?|| i have terrible finger cordination

[jaunty night]

|| maybe you've been using spells more than nail so your charms aren't getting the intended effect? ||

[golden prawn]

||no I've been using the nail she just has so much hp and won't fucking die||

I know my build is good that's the point

[jaunty night]

there probably is, might want to ask in the modding channels

[golden prawn]

She isn't difficult she's a hit Sponge

[tough saffron]

that isnt considering cheating is it?

[golden prawn]

So far most bosses were masterly crafted it's just disappointing to see

[jaunty night]

|| she throws the caltrops at just over half health ||

|| hornet sentinel is really all about getting comfortable with the moveset and getting hits when you can ||

[golden prawn]

I Know, I've gotten there before multiple times

[jaunty night]

|| unfortunetly there arent any good signifiers of low health for hornet 2 ||

[golden prawn]

I'll die on the hill she has way too much hp

[plucky dome]

She has less hp ||than dung defender||

[jaunty night]

|| with your nail damage just about 28 nail hits should do it ||

|| with quick slash thats easy ||

[neat karma]

your message isnt tagged btw

[neat karma]

that depends on you its a singleplayer game

[kindred whale]

How many ||masks|| are you on

And how much are you trying to ||heal||

Ideally ||you don’t want to be healing at all in that fight||

Unless ||shes staggered||

[golden prawn]

Seven

[kindred whale]

Damn

Are you clearing out the ||spiky balls|| when they appear?

[golden prawn]

||when she's in the air slashing around herself||

[kindred whale]

Not a great time for it, but I guess it’s better than most other times ||excluding when she’s staggered||

[golden prawn]

||https://youtu.be/1fgQEWKrNDE?si=YCfDRULjUQyn7EU4 ||
Like what am i supposed to do she just won't die

[neat karma]

well considering youre hitting her every two working days

||you should also use more spells they do a crap ton of damage||

[golden prawn]

i hit her whenever i get a chance what else am i supposed to do

[jaunty night]

|| you're being wayyy to cautious for a nail player ||

[kindred whale]

||Use more spells||

Oh and ||stick to the ground||

And don’t get greedy

[jaunty night]

|| instead of dashing and double jumping over her attacks, try pogoing her head, then falling to the ground to get up into her face ||

[kindred whale]

But also there were a lot of missed opportunities for attacks

[neat karma]

||being cautious is good but youre playing like a spells player but with the nail||

[jaunty night]

exactly

[kindred whale]

||She’s much more manageable if you’re on the ground because you have better control of yourself||

[neat karma]

i reccommend fitting in ||spell twister and getting way more agressive||

[neat karma]

this as well! shes ||very erratic, and jumps a lot lot||

[kindred whale]

||Honestly I think shaman stone might be better in this case||

[jaunty night]

especially with || normal dash ||

[golden prawn]

Wdym? I just play like i always have been seen i started

[neat karma]

both are great, ideally both

||you could replace qs for shaman and try to get another notch to replace grubson with twister||

[jaunty night]

you have both || upgraded spells and the way you play is much more that of a spell player then a nail one ||

[kindred whale]

||You’re only going in for swings when shes in a spot that could get you hit||

[kindred whale]

Indeed, they are a lethal combo

[jaunty night]

|| you either have to get more aggresive, or switch to spells ||

[neat karma]

being ||mid air is just asking for her to rocket jump to you||

[golden prawn]

she's dead, what now? What did this do for me

[jaunty night]

continue down the path

[golden prawn]

The ||dive spell|| is stronger than i thought...

[jaunty night]

you'll see

[kindred whale]

||Honestly you could even take off quick slash because you’re only getting 1-2 hits off anyway||

[jaunty night]

yes

[neat karma]

it is SO strong

[jaunty night]

it gives i frames

[neat karma]

this^^

[kindred whale]

I frames my beloved

[jaunty night]

fr

[neat karma]

||so if youre ever in a tough situation you can always dive and avoid the damage, while also dealing a lot yourself||

[kindred whale]

||*cough cough SoB||

[golden prawn]

||ok so I'm the king now, neat?||

[kindred whale]

Kinda

[golden prawn]

I honestly don't know what I'm doing, I'm putting off killing the ||dreamers|| since they sound hard

[kindred whale]

The best way to play hollow knight is to get lost in the world and enjoy it

[hollow bramble]

ong bro

[golden prawn]

I found a ||big tail|| sticking in from the ceiling but hitting it doesn't do anything

[kindred whale]

Lmao

[jaunty night]

you just found the best part of hollow knight

[golden prawn]

How do i get past these things

[kindred whale]

||You need an item you get later in the game||

*later-ish

[golden prawn]

alright...

There was a small offside room somewhere to the last i Think at ||greenpath fungal wastes|| you need ||isma's tear|| to get through, where is it? I can't remember where it is

[kindred whale]

Where ||ismas tear|| is?

[kindred whale]

Also I was being vague because I don’t want to spoil anything

[golden prawn]

No that's ok i get it, it's good

[kindred whale]

But I will say ||getting that item is directly connected to kings mark||

[golden prawn]

Maybe from the other side? I remember seeing it and wanting to go back there once i can ||swim through acid|| and i can't remember where it is

[kindred whale]

||Up in fungal wastes?||

I think I know the one

If that’s where your trying to get

[golden prawn]

The layout was something like this, small and to the left side of the room

[kindred whale]

||And in fungal wastes yes?||

[golden prawn]

I think so

[kindred whale]

To get there ||from the dirtmouth well drop go left to the large open room, drop down and continue down until you reach a pathway that goes to your left, there shouldn’t be any acid in this room, if there is you’ve taken a wrong turn, anyways continue through and you should be at fungal wastes, just continue down the room and eventually you should get there||

I think that’s how you get there

That’s off of memory so idk if that’s accurate or not

[midnight oracle]

Hey guys, ||So I got all I need to achieve the Dream No More ending, just wanna ask if getting an ending deletes your save or if it will stay at the bench in the Black Egg so I can do all the other endings and quests||

[golden prawn]

Thank you!

[kindred whale]

||No endings delete your save dw||

[kindred whale]

Did you find it?

[midnight oracle]

Ok, thx so much