hk-help

[lethal summit]

probably

[stoic cedar]

All u need is 57

[vagrant furnace]

probably 100

oh

[lethal summit]

bro💔

1 away

[stoic cedar]

It goes on infinitely so it doesn’t end at 57, but 57 is all u need for its reward

[lethal summit]

this is hard

oh i got it

[jaunty glen]

It also gives you a ||background
|| at 57 but I personally like the ||Steel soul|| one the most

[lethal summit]

i havent played ||steelsoul or godseeker mode yet||

i just ||no hit sheo in p5||

wow

[frosty ocean]

How to get this ||grub|| TwT

[inner hound]

there is a ||breakable wall in the room in deepnest that is right to the left of it||

[frosty ocean]

.

I fear ||deepnest||

[frosty ocean]

Where?

[acoustic sigil]

It's not that far into it

[frosty ocean]

My spawn point?

Thingy?

[acoustic sigil]

Somewhere around here

idk the exact spot

[frosty ocean]

TwT ok

[median hornet]

how to kill ||soul master||

[acoustic sigil]

Any specific attacks you are struggling with?

[frosty ocean]

Got it

[median hornet]

the whole thing
i keep dying

[frosty ocean]

I struggle with walking on air

[median hornet]

i can kinda dodge spinning and shooting orbs i guess

but when i try to attack everything goes down

i guess I have to ||dash|| away when he slams the ground?

[acoustic sigil]

||Orbs: The Soul Master will teleport somewhere in the arena and shoot an or at you. Ddash below it or just and dash over it, then hit the soul master a few times.
Dive: The Soul Master will teleport above you and dive down at you, causing a shockwave. You can jump or jump and dash over this attack.
Fake Dive: The Soul Master will teleport above you, making it look like he is about to dive down at you, but then he will teleport where you are after you dodge and dive for real. He will not do this for every dive, it is complete RNG.
Clock: For this move, The Soul Master will slowly move across the arena while being circled by 4 soul orbs. To dodge this move, stand in the middle of the arena, wait for him to go close to you, jump over the orbs, they will miss you when they come back as they have a set rotation start point (so you can get a heal in). If you are in the middle of the arena when he starts this move, you don't even need to move, simply just needing to jump once.
Glide: For this move, Soul Master slowly glides along the floor of the arena. You can take on this attack by jumping up and pogoing him, quickly dashing in the direction he is going, pogoing again and dashing again for a couple hits of damage.
||

[frosty ocean]

😭why must a player experience this

[acoustic sigil]

?

[median hornet]

ohh there is a ||fake dive||

[frosty ocean]

||dive|| is a spoiler?💀

[hollow bramble]

||desolate dive||

[acoustic sigil]

Generally all attack descriptions are

[acoustic sigil]

Or should be

[undone jacinth]

||im safe if my current balance in bank is 2500?||

[frosty ocean]

Tbh I’m not gonna say smth bad bout the bot

[median hornet]

well I'll go die again a couple more times again i guess

[frosty ocean]

uhh

maybe

[acoustic sigil]

||2550 is the cut off||

[frosty ocean]

I thought 3000 was

[acoustic sigil]

Thought wrong

[frosty ocean]

I’m dumb

[undone jacinth]

Do i hit it or no ?
Boss fight i assume

[inner hound]

hit, your equipement seems good enough

[undone jacinth]

What do i even do in this fight

Infinite spawning

[inner hound]

hit the boss and dont get overwhelmed by the ||minions, get rid of them soon after they spawn||

[frosty ocean]

||Abyss shriek|| 3-4x

[frosty ocean]

If u wanna fight

[undone jacinth]

Don't have

[frosty ocean]

-_-

then go get it

[inner hound]

dont spoil

[frosty ocean]

Fine

😭

[undone jacinth]

I failed
repeatedly getting overwhelmed

[inner hound]

do you one shot the babies?

[undone jacinth]

No

[lethal summit]

I JUST DIED TO ||NKG|| SOMEHOW💔

ts boss so easy bro

when i fought it the first time i took 1 hit

idk how i lost

[fluid garden]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[frosty ocean]

What did I do

Oh

Nvm

[inner hound]

then come back later, unless you are very determined, or change your ||charms||

[fluid garden]

||just pogo on its head and dodge the little guys||

[frosty ocean]

nvm nvm

[frosty ocean]

I thought they were worms which can fly

[undone jacinth]

Definitely not determined

[undone jacinth]

Yea
Small flying guys

[fluid garden]

yeah

[upbeat glen]

4500 is cut off

[frosty ocean]

I made quick art

Wanna see

Is cool

lol

[acoustic sigil]

||At more than 2550 the banker leaves the spot. I know the max is 4500, that was not what this was about||

[fluid garden]

alright, though theres an art channel so might wanna use that

[upbeat glen]

i see. ohhh as in using the bank as an actual bank

[undone jacinth]

Won't they hit me

[fluid garden]

||its possible to dodge them or quickly swap pogo locations to go on their head and pogo them but is pretty hard to learn how to do. once you learn itll become a really easy boss though||

[frosty ocean]

I dm u

[undone jacinth]

Hmn...i will be back later
Waste of 300 currency for nothing

[lethal summit]

hi viod

im on my 4th ||p5|| attempt

[frosty ocean]

I dropped all my money into the foundation just for a ||vessel fragment|| (I forgot what it called the small circle)😞

[lethal summit]

lost to ||uumuu, markoth, and nkg||

[fluid garden]

||fountain, and probably should be spoiltagged but yeah its a bit of a scam||

[frosty ocean]

xd

[upbeat glen]

yoyo

[upbeat glen]

w

once you beat it you should do the challenge im doing

[lethal summit]

what is it

also

i WILL 1 attempt ||absrad||

[upbeat glen]

||r5||

[upbeat glen]

mhm

[lethal summit]

whats that

[upbeat glen]

||hitless p5||

my record is 3 hits

[lethal summit]

oh man

idk about that

i usually play really aggresively

so

[solid heart]

||R5|| is extremely brutal

Take over 100 hours of practice and training to do for most people

[lethal summit]

i can imagine

[solid heart]

I have 73 and I'm barely reaching the 2-3 hit consistency zone

You could start with simpler challenges like ||P5EB, which is to get all 4 bindings individually, RHoG, which is all radiant bosses, and P5AB eventually, which is P5 with all 4 bindings at once||

The first two are significantly less punishing

[lethal summit]

ive never even tried a ||binding||

[solid heart]

But also you're goated, so you can do it

[lethal summit]

what does each one do?

[solid heart]

||Nail is 80% nail damage (for max nail it's 62%)
Mask is -5 masks
Charm is no charms
Soul sets your maximum soul to 33 (1 cast)||

[acoustic sigil]

I don't think 50% is accurate

||It's 21 -> 13||

[hollow bramble]

||i thought nail binding just reduces it to base nail||

[acoustic sigil]

No it's not that brutal

[solid heart]

Yeah, I did my math wrong

It's 62%

[solid heart]

That's extremely 💀

[lethal summit]

is ||all bindings at once harder than radiant?||

[inner hound]

mask simply reduces to 4, no matter how much you have ||(except if you have heart equipped)||

[inner hound]

it depends on the boss and how much you are used to ||your charms and having spare soul||

[solid heart]

Depends on the boss
||some AB bosses like Flukemarm or Collector are harder than R
Some like Hornet 2, or Oro&Mato are harder R
Most are about the same
Others are just insane for both like Markoth, GPZ and AbsRad

The whole pantheon tho, AB is like 50x easier than R||

Because heal op

[undone jacinth]

Is this ||ancient basin||

[lethal summit]

||absrad|| cant be this bad

[solid heart]

Yes

[lethal summit]

i really want to fight it now

i beat ||the radiance in 1 attempt in like a minute||

[solid heart]

||AbsRad is the hardest fight, and always top tier difficulty with challenge conditions||

[upbeat glen]

hardest boss in the game

[lethal summit]

whats the second hardest?

[solid heart]

I did ||hitless Radiance in like 30 minutes after just beating her
I did hitless AbsRad in 4 hours after P5 and all other radiants||

[lethal summit]

the hardest for me is probably ||markoth||

[solid heart]

Just food for thought

[upbeat glen]

prob ||nkg||

or ||pv||

[lethal summit]

i beat him first try taking 1 hit💔

[solid heart]

||AbsRad is 1
NKG or PV, they can swap 2 and 3
The Radiance is 4
The gap here is huge||

[lethal summit]

ya thats reasonable

[upbeat glen]

||abs rad is leagues above tho||

[lethal summit]

it cant be THIS hard bro

[solid heart]

Yes

[upbeat glen]

LEAGUES

[solid heart]

But she is such a fun fight

[upbeat glen]

fr.

movement is peak

[lethal summit]

i could beat it first try

i am NOT getting that far just to lose

[upbeat glen]

you are tho

[lethal summit]

❌

[solid heart]

Well, ||attuned is not thaaaaat bad, you can heal so much||

There is a chance you could considering your talent

[inner hound]

most people get to it, die to it, train and come back to her

[solid heart]

But most likely no

[upbeat glen]

once you get there once you can practive in ||hog||

[lethal summit]

what about most likely YES ❤️‍🩹

[undone hornet]

I keep on ||dying to the mantis Lords second phase , I barely won the first phase but the second one is very fast and the boomerangs have different patterns , I'm equipping soul catcher and long nail charms , I also have shaman stone but only 4 notches|| , any tips to beat them?

[lethal summit]

thankfully im getting a little faster

doesnt take forever to get far

i still dont know how to beat the ||hornet nosk fast||

[upbeat glen]

what ||spells|| do you have?

just ||vengeful||?

if so

i recommend a nail build

and just play patiently

dont try to get extra hits in when they are on the wall and dont move to sporatically.

[upbeat glen]

||Abyss Shriek and tank||

[lethal summit]

i just found a method

i ||pogo on it then shade soul double hit||

doesnt take too long that way

[upbeat glen]

yea. people try to get to greedy

[lethal summit]

why is its hitbox so tall

[upbeat glen]

idk. ask team cherry.

[undone hornet]

Just ||vengeful spirit|| I thought you can't get another before beating ||the mantis Lords?||

[lethal summit]

YES

||markoth got stuck on a platform while he was doing the spinny thing||

beat him in like 10 sec

no hit ||gpz|| 😛

no hit ||nkg||

wow

@upbeat glen is it just ||pure vessel and absrad now??||

guess ill figure it out

uh oh

good luck to myself

[sinful vortex]

yall, ||i need help with mantis lords, im able to deal with the first guy sometimes, but the other two are too hard for me, rn im using the upgraded nail + extended nail + soul catcher and wayward compass, any tips or charm reccomendations? i have the charm seller in fungal wastes and dirtmouth unlocked. or, should i grind geo for the lantern and then try to explore the dark region in forgotten crossroads/greenpath||

also, ||hornet showed me this black egg temple thing, when i went in there was some coffin in it? i tried to hit it with my nail but nothing happened, it glowed when i shot a vengeful spirit at it tho||

[acoustic sigil]

||There are more options outside of grinding or doing mantis lords||

[lethal summit]

GG

FIRST TRY

[sinful vortex]

||you mean those dark areas that i need the lantern for? ive explored greenpath, forgotten crossroads and city of tears||

mb i forgot to turn off reply ping

[acoustic sigil]

But for help with the ||mantis lords||,
||Dive: For this attack 1 mantis lord will dive down at you from above with their nail pointed down. You will know when they are going to use this attack as it is the only time they go in the air NOT on the wall. Dodge this attack by simply dashing to the other half of the arena.
Dash: For this attack either 1 mantis lord will dash at you from any side with their nail pointed toward you OR 2 mantis lords will dash from either side with their nail pointed toward you. This can be dodged by jumping and pogoing for that sweet extra damage.
Scythe: For this attack either 1 mantis lord will go to the wall and throw a boomerang attack at you, which can be thrown from high or low on the wall. For low simply jump and pogo. For high, wait for it to come back at you, then jump and pogo. The other way they can do this is with 2 mantis lords. For high you just need to stand in the very middle of the arena and wait. You can heal during this time. If they throw from low simply jump and pogo off of the scythes.||

[acoustic sigil]

||No, there is another exit in city that you can use to find some new stuff||

[sinful vortex]

||you mean the soul sanctuary thing, should i go explore that more?||

[lethal summit]

@upbeat glen @solid heart

evil doubters

[acoustic sigil]

Among other things yes

[sinful vortex]

alr

ill give ||mantis lords a couple more tries, and if i cant get it down then ill head over to soul sanctum||

||also btw where can i get a pale ore||

[acoustic sigil]

At this point in the game, nowhere

Generally they are at the edge of the map

[sinful vortex]

oh alr

[sinful vortex]

also ||hornet showed me this black egg temple thing, when i went in there was some coffin in it? i tried to hit it with my nail but nothing happened, it glowed when i shot a vengeful spirit at it tho||

[acoustic sigil]

Yeah it's important later but you can't do anything there rn

[sinful vortex]

oh alr

[lunar oar]

Yo can someone help me right quick

@viod

[lethal summit]

me

maybe

[lunar oar]

K

[lethal summit]

what specifically

[lunar oar]

||absrad||

[lethal summit]

like what attack

[lunar oar]

Just tips on it

[lethal summit]

im pretty sure multiple people have written big things

on every attack

[lunar oar]

I gst the attacksa but ||p5|| just drains my health

[lethal summit]

isnt there a ||hot spring|| right before ||pure vessel and absrad||??

i just beat it for the first time i might not be remembering right

[lunar oar]

I dont rwmeber

[lethal summit]

yeah

so shouldnt you just

practice ||pure vessel||

no hitting it

[lunar oar]

Alr did

I think

[lethal summit]

so wheres ur health going bro💔

[lunar oar]

Good questo io n

[lethal summit]

clearly ||absrad|| IS the problem

[lunar oar]

Mhm

Soo is||NKG||

[lethal summit]

idrk how to give advice

i mean i can tell you how i dodged stuff

[lunar oar]

Lol ok

[lethal summit]

you gotta tell me what youre struggling on

though

[undone jacinth]

||I was told to not pickup the wings to make the carrying flower quest easier
Am I going in the wrong direction
Comparing it to a map i think i am||

[narrow gyro]

yes you are getting closer

any tips and builds for ||radiance||

[shrewd basin]

I had a bug while transferring my HK save I have ||grey Prince Zote in the pantheons but not in the hall|| does anyone know how to fix this

[narrow gyro]

nope

i realy need help for ||radiance|| someone can help???

[shrewd basin]

What you struggling with the most

[narrow gyro]

almost everything

[shrewd basin]

Oh

[upbeat glen]

well peak builds are nail builds

[narrow gyro]

but the most are timings

[upbeat glen]

practice in ||hog||

[shrewd basin]

Take your time get used to her attacks don't panic

They may mean normal ||radiance||

[narrow gyro]

yes

[upbeat glen]

ah

[narrow gyro]

should i change my build???

[lethal summit]

should i use ||mark of pride over shaman stone||

also someone recommended ||any radiance|| to me i kinda wanna try it

[upbeat glen]

up to you. do you use ||nail or spells more||?

[lethal summit]

should i do ||radiant absrad first||

[narrow gyro]

mix of both

[upbeat glen]

||mop|| is to 5 charms oat

[upbeat glen]

yea prolly

[lethal summit]

okay

ill get back on in an hour and try to beat it

[upbeat glen]

gl fr

[lethal summit]

i think i took like 6 hits

[upbeat glen]

||i rec using nail over spells because of freeze frames||

[lethal summit]

when i fought it in ||p5||

[upbeat glen]

nice

[lethal summit]

i mean

thats near the most u can take

without dying

is it not

[upbeat glen]

i mean you can hit and heal

[shrewd basin]

||jump and dash through the gaps when she fires swords at you from the sides when the swords are falling down at you focus on avoiding them rather than attacking until you get comfortable. With the beam of light you can dash through it or use your down spell to avoid it when she fires swords out of her face in a circle look at where they are going to go and dodge it when she does the mini beams she will normally fire one out then change the spot ever so slightly and go back to exactly what the first one was with the orbs just focus on avoiding don't attack unless you're confident when you deal enough damage she will spawn spikes on either side of the arena you can use ddark to destroy them when you deal enough damage she will go into the center and rain swords constantly until you deal enough damage to get to platforms phase. The swords are a lot slower the orbs are faster when you don't know what she's going to do use the ddark to get iframes then attack her normally until you've done enough damage to take her to the climb ascend to the top and hit her once to end the fight||

[lethal summit]

🤷

[upbeat glen]

Yapatron but fr good info

[shrewd basin]

Should help

[shrewd basin]

Viod do you know how to fix it

[upbeat glen]

Is it a pc to pc save?

[shrewd basin]

Switch to PC

[upbeat glen]

Ohhhh do you have a JB switch?

[shrewd basin]

No I built it from the ground up with a HK save editor putting everything the exact same as it is on the switch

[upbeat glen]

But I recommend just editing the save in TextEdit or something

[upbeat glen]

Ah gotcha

[shrewd basin]

Idk how to do that and I'm pretty sure it's illegal right

[upbeat glen]

Yea but 🤷‍♂️

||Just have it so GPZ isn’t done yet||

And beat him

[crystal tide]

interesting stuff

[shrewd basin]

I don't have ||GPZ|| in the save but it's in the ||pantheon||

[upbeat glen]

Ohhhh huh

||Is the pantheon beaten on your save?||

[shrewd basin]

I do have a save where I have done him

[shrewd basin]

Yes

[lethal summit]

its possible to not have ||gpz||??

[upbeat glen]

If you haven’t beaten ||gpz|| but you have the ||pantheon|| beaten it’ll show there

Try just beating him in ||dirtmouth|| again

[shrewd basin]

But he's not in ||dirtmouth|| on this save cuz I left him to die in ||greenpath||

[upbeat glen]

Huh

Ummmmm

[jaunty glen]

What the hell. Outside right now the whole sky is covered in clouds and it's yellow. Feel like I'm watching the ||knight|| get ||true ending|| right above me.

[upbeat glen]

||Edit the save so the pantheon isn’t beaten?||

[shrewd basin]

I'll try it

[upbeat glen]

Gl

[shrewd basin]

I just found the issue

[undone jacinth]

Help i got ||stuck after broken vessel arena , i don't want to pick up wings||

What to do

[acoustic sigil]

Why not

[undone jacinth]

||someone told me to not take wings and dreamer bosses
Otherwise area gets infested
And the carrying delicate flower quest becomes difficult||

[acoustic sigil]

[keen stream]

[acoustic sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1047750039612690452.gif?size=48

[undone jacinth]

What 👀 is with thw reactions

[keen stream]

it'll make your entire run easier tho

[acoustic sigil]

Just pick it up

[keen stream]

cause what you said is fckn diabolical

[acoustic sigil]

One of the most major abilities or making something slightly easker

[keen stream]

it makes everything easier

[acoustic sigil]

Which is not even true if you take a different route

[undone jacinth]

What ..... 😶

😵‍💫

[undone jacinth]

Ohhhh

[acoustic sigil]

Well, what was told to you is diabolical

[keen stream]

you dodge enemies chasing you way easier

[acoustic sigil]

It's not really your fault

[undone jacinth]

Well ..... I can't seem to jump out of here now
No other option ig

[keen stream]

you've been fooled

[keen stream]

you can save quit, not sure if that'll get you out tho

[acoustic sigil]

Just get it

Even if you can quit it, there is no reason to do so

[undone jacinth]

Hmnnn

[undone jacinth]

Well can you tell me how to do that

I will try once and if it doesn't work out then I'll just take it

[acoustic sigil]

[undone jacinth]

Can i do that quest right now tho ?

[acoustic sigil]

Depends

But please don't even think about that quest

There is an alternative route which makes it trivial

[keen stream]

just save quit?

[undone jacinth]

You mean just quit

[keen stream]

yeh

[undone jacinth]

Oh...i think that would be better ... .

[undone jacinth]

Ummm .... I think save quit worked
Should i try it or not

[acoustic sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/961275564067545110.webp?size=48

[undone jacinth]

Lmao

[crystal tide]

i think that sticker is inappropriate

[undone jacinth]

👀 .... It's fine

[acoustic sigil]

I think reacting with a yes emote to that is inappropriate smh

[upbeat glen]

whats. hes try to figure out how to tie a hitch

[crystal tide]

i didn't meant the emote, i said sticker...

[upbeat glen]

which sticker 😭

or is it deleted

[crystal tide]

well i was looking through my stickers and went like oh well this's isn't inappropriate to send rn so i wrote it by accident...

[crystal tide]

exactly

[undone jacinth]

Atrocious

[keen stream]

looks like a pregnant ||grub|| for some reason

[undone jacinth]

It's just healthy (fat but you can't call it fat ..... Cute privilege)

[upbeat glen]

you look like a pregnant ||grub|| for some reason

what

[keen stream]

its a sloth tho

[upbeat glen]

well maybe its a ||grub|| wearing a sloth

fuck you

[lone obsidian]

Why tf does ||grub|| need to be censored

[upbeat glen]

ik

[keen stream]

wtf is this shit tho

[upbeat glen]

like vro

[keen stream]

the first fckn area you see

[upbeat glen]

its the starting area fr

[lone obsidian]

Peak sticker

[keen stream]

at least nail and charm isnt spoilered

[undone jacinth]

I find the bot's dedication admirable

[upbeat glen]

erm its the tutorial area.

[upbeat glen]

https://tenor.com/view/yelling-leon-the-professional-pissed-off-angry-screaming-gif-15144549

[undone jacinth]

Do you know any videos that do that route
Or any keyword so i can look it up on yt

[keen stream]

or you can experiment which route is the safest

[undone jacinth]

Because save quit worked but I'm just gonna pick it up

[undone jacinth]

Oh ok that seems nice too

But maybe if things don't work out .....

[keen stream]

its a practice as well

[acoustic sigil]

Cough I have a video on it cough

[lone obsidian]

I sat on a bench for like ten minutes planning my entire route out lmao

[keen stream]

yep, you can just go back in here if you cant find your desirable path

[undone jacinth]

👀
Are you ok

[marble cloak]

||btw how is one supposed to beat grimm?||

[upbeat glen]

which one

[lone obsidian]

It was also coincidentally similar to the route used in first video I saw on it

[upbeat glen]

||TMG or NKG||

[fathom creek]

pretty easily? lol

[upbeat glen]

||TMG has cheese||

[fathom creek]

unecessary spoiler tbh

[marble cloak]

||the circus one||

[upbeat glen]

how?

[warped kite]

just learn the attacks
Afterwards its basically a Dance battle

[keen stream]

spam ||shriek||

[marble cloak]

||shriek?||

[fathom creek]

cause the person hasnt necessarily reacher the other one

[upbeat glen]

true

mb

[keen stream]

the cry ||spell||

[warped kite]

I don't think he has that yet-

[marble cloak]

||lol i dont think ive got that one||

[upbeat glen]

you can also wait and do it later

when you get more stuff

[keen stream]

can you show us your inventory?

[marble cloak]

||lwk i dont know what to do then, i could go radiance but seems hard, will wait a bit and then colossem n3 and then grim, thats my options||

[marble cloak]

wait

[keen stream]

aint no way you dont have ||shriek|| if you have ||radiance||

[fathom creek]

not rly true

[keen stream]

he have it, just the weaker version tho

[keen stream]

you can spam that ||upward spell|| to ||grimm||

[fathom creek]

yea he does but still you might not rly have it cause its sort of easy to miss especially if you dont look anything up or ask for help

[marble cloak]

||i only use the nail aswell havent looked at the spells||

[fathom creek]

I did that on my first playthrough too lol

[upbeat glen]

how the fuck is soul a spoiler vro

[marble cloak]

||up spell?||

[keen stream]

i actually dont know its name so i call both of em ||shriek||

[keen stream]

yeh

[upbeat glen]

yea

[keen stream]

the ||scream spell||

[marble cloak]

||how do i do it?... havent used spells...||

[fathom creek]

its ||howling wraiths||

[warped kite]

Heres just some tips for ||TMG||
||learn the attacks one by one
If you have any problems with a Specific attack then you can ask for tips for it in here
After that choose 2 attacks you want to attack Grimm with and for the others just play Defensively
Each time Grimm uses the Puffer fish attack it means that 25% of his HP is gone so that's good to know||
These are the charms I recommend
||Grimm child (Forced) , Shaman stone, Long nail and you can use Spell twister for the last 2 charm notches||

[keen stream]

idk its name

pro tip: never use ||thorns of agony||

it uses all the i frames after getting hit iirc

[ebon copper]

||howling wraiths||

[marble cloak]

||i dont know when to attack and also the fast attacks are so hard to dodge||

[warped kite]

Don't worry
You would get used to the speed of the Fight after some time

[marble cloak]

bruh

[warped kite]

(I still don't know if you're talking about ||TMG|| or ||NKG|| so I can't help much unfortunately)

[keen stream]

he's actually uhm... too slow...

[fathom creek]

its pretty obviously ||TMG||

[keen stream]

even after forgetting most bosses, i think i still can do him hitless

[warped kite]

That's the thing about ||Grimm||
Once you beat it for the first time it's gonna become easier afterwards

[keen stream]

it wont take that long until you get used to his attacks

[marble cloak]

when to hit him tho?

||radiance much easier||

[keen stream]

when he's doing the ||dash and uppercut||, just ||dash away|| then hit him

when he's doing the ||dive and dash||, you can jump and hit him

when he's shooting out bats, thats a free hit

you can do ||howling wraiths|| right before he starts shooting stuff when he's puffed up

[ebon copper]

||radiance|| is actually one of the more simular fights to ||tmg||, both are quite rythmic, with very repeatable tactics for each attack, very methodical fights

[marble cloak]

||but i cant hit grimm||

[fathom creek]

idk if im this is just me but they are the least similar imo like ||grimm|| is methodical and ||radiance|| is more "random"

[ebon copper]

try to think of each of his attacks on their own, as none of them ever overlap, you can just have surefire ways for each of his attacks

[acoustic sigil]

||Yeah I agree, tmg is just knowing how to dodge each attack and then consistently being able to do that with no improvisation. Radiance strings more attacks together with some overlap between them etc||

[ebon copper]

we arent talking about ||abrsad||, but also imo ||absrad|| is a very rythmic fight, doesnt feel random at all

[fathom creek]

really? I feel like you're the outlier with that opinion but fair enough I guess

[ebon copper]

i guess so as Thommie also disagreed with me , but oh well

[fathom creek]

just wondering what is a more random fight in HK in ur opinion

[ebon copper]

||marmu or umu||

||ab collector||

[fathom creek]

those are all random as well tbh

[ebon copper]

||i mean, tmg, is much more methodical than rad||, i do agree with you on that

[fathom creek]

||Radiance|| is just imo random cause she can 1. Overlap attacks to create inconsistent patterns and 2. A lot of her attacks have randomness built into them like the ||orbs|| have a "random" trajectory and spawn location as well as the ||sword rain|| has random gaps and the ||swords|| she shoots out are shot out at random angles.

[ebon copper]

||yea, sure, i dont deny you do need some more advanced decisionmaking in rad fight compared to tmg, but other than her attacks having a bit more diversity, normal rad doesnt overlap that much, and most of her attacks can be countered with very simular responses every time||

other than that both fights kinda aim to show you the importance of creating space for yourself

like positioning becomes more and more relevant the deeper you go into the game, and both of these fights feel very unfair if you end up being cornered into one half of the arena

[fathom creek]

yea ofc its in a sense easy and you can respond similarly every time but what makes the fight feel more random to me is just it literally having more randomness in its attacks not like that you have to have much different responses but just that a lot of the attacks literally just have a slight random element which ||Grimm|| for example has none of except on the ||balloon|| attack

[ebon copper]

btw, who do you think feels most random?

[fathom creek]

I will agree that in a way ||Radiance|| isn't very random in how YOU fight against it

[ebon copper]

yea, my idea may be a bit distorted

[fathom creek]

||Marmuu|| and I hate the boss for it I always in ||P5AB|| lost all my ||lifeblood|| ||masks|| to it instantly and couldn't bother learning an optimal way to fight it

[mighty forge]

HOLY SH-

[fathom creek]

congrats

[ebon copper]

love it when it gets stuck in the corner than launches at you with mach10

[marble cloak]

||im getting the hang of grimm but i dont know when to use spells, its always bad timing||

[undone jacinth]

||i have many questions ....
Found pale ore.. use it to upgrade nail ?
Also should i buy leg eater's stock if i have nothing else to spend on yet ?
Also i am going to deepnest after ancient basin but i still haven't gotten the tram token thing ?||

[fathom creek]

to be fair I learnt him to the extent of at least knowing that I have to just focus on launching it away into one direction constantly so that that doesn't happen but yea

[ebon copper]

||if you want to make it easy for yourself, than only use spells when he is in baloon phase||

[fathom creek]

this game doesn't have anything you can miss out on and money is of course in a sense an infinite resource so spend it however you want!

[rocky anvil]

any changes ||for my charm build for pantheon 3? (i'm at the hot spring)||

[ebon copper]

what you buy from ||leg eater|| only ||breaks when you die while having it equipped||, so its not really a problem to just buy it ever

[undone jacinth]

||another thing, do i seel the crests to the guy who buys them in city of tears or is there a use for them ?||

[fathom creek]

||sharp shadow|| is not very good but I get that if you've used it for a while you might be used to it

[rocky anvil]

yeah

[undone jacinth]

||i thought you could make it permanent||

[fathom creek]

there is no other use for them so sell away

[fathom creek]

thats way later but yes

[ebon copper]

anyway, if you dont ||equip it it wont break anyway, so no reason not to buy it||

[undone jacinth]

||Enraged guardian is beating me up||

What to do

[fathom creek]

||tbh for him just jump over the beams and go into the gaps of the other beams of course||

[undone jacinth]

🥲

[undone jacinth]

Is my stats enough or should i come back later

[fathom creek]

they should be enough

[undone jacinth]

☹️

Any recommended charms

[fathom creek]

can u send a pic of ur inventory

[fathom creek]

(and charms)

[fathom creek]

maybe ||mark of pride and longnail|| can help in the fight if you dont want to have to get too close but other than that not really much else

[undone jacinth]

Im getting destroyed

[undone jacinth]

Do they stack ?

[fathom creek]

yup!

[marble cloak]

||lol no hit grimm lol wasnt that hard haha||

[fathom creek]

no it isn't!

[marble cloak]

actually so easy when you learn hin

him

[fathom creek]

that's why I love this game's bosses more than any others tbh

[marble cloak]

||im stuck on a very hard boss in cuphead and i can confirm you cannot learn his moves||

[fathom creek]

lol so true

[random whale]

I ABSORBED HIM

[hybrid lichen]

Which one?

||Dr.kal??||

[marble cloak]

||dr kahl robot||

[hybrid lichen]

Yeah knew it

Hate that guy so much

[torn lynx]

Hey, I'm trying to use my ps5 controller on PC to play hk but it's not working at all. Any help?

[simple island]

It works fine for me
Do you have the game on steam ?

Generally it is easier to get it to connect if you plug it in btw

[torn lynx]

Yup on steam. It's plugged in and the controller works perfectly fine with everything else. It doesn't work in the menu, or in game, but I was able to skip the cutscene at the start of the game somehow

[fathom creek]

yea this is because the game doesn't have native support for a ps5 controller since it was made before they even existed to fix it enable Steam Input (Steam Input is basically a controller emulator officially from Steam that they made exactly for situations like this)

[torn lynx]

oh nice where do i get this#

[fathom creek]

Go to Hollow Knight's properties on Steam and click on controllers and there's a little drop down that you can click where you can press enable steam input

[torn lynx]

alright i did that, is that all

[fathom creek]

yup just launch the game and it should work

[torn lynx]

ok tyy pls work game

[lethal summit]

im gonna go try ||radiant absrad||

[fathom creek]

gl gl

[undone jacinth]

||Should i do the 3000 into water fountain thing if I can spare the coins
I haven't sold single seal yet||

[torn lynx]

Rip it didn't work

Worst case I play mnk but idk

[fathom creek]

oh well that's strange

[torn lynx]

I won't mind too much, js a bit of inconvenience ig

[wild root]

if u want

[lethal summit]

||ascended|| done

[thick wing]

||do i have to enter through the fungal wastes entrance for fog canyon||

[torn lynx]

what we think bout the keyboard layout

[lethal summit]

oops

on ||radiant||💔

[thick wing]

||do i have to enter through the fungal wastes entrance for fog canyon||

[undone jacinth]

||Was i supposed to listen to songstress Marissa ?||

[snow steppe]

free 1 ||essence||

[undone jacinth]

Well i hit her ..... Without thinking twice

Missed the dialogue 😭

[snow steppe]

oh lol

i didnt read it too

didnt even know ||marissa|| had a dialogue

[undone jacinth]

Well I assume she had

[lethal summit]

hi @upbeat glen i beat ||radiant absrad||

[upbeat glen]

Bro

[lethal summit]

holy cow ||anyrad|| is hard

[jaunty glen]

I'm missing less then 10 bosses to ||rad||

[undone jacinth]

||How to reach charm lover salubra
They way is blocked after infested||

[viscid loom]

does ||baldur shell|| do anything against ||hornet second encounter|| or can ||she|| just blast through it?

[inner robin]

It should be working- there might be a bug on your end. Does the animation play?

[shut sparrow]

||there are multiple paths to get there. You can see them on your map. Check the other ones||

[tacit mica]

guys when do you suggest i should start ||pantheon 5, because so far i can kill abs rad like every 2-3 attempts, the thing is that i dont wanna do p5 just to die at abs rad because its tooooo long to get back there again so what should i do lmao||

[hushed widget]

try it until you beat it

suffering is required

[neat karma]

||keep trying the bosses you struggle on until you can beat them consistently||

[tacit mica]

True, the thing is ||abs rad requires insane patience, and i basically have non of that so i die most of the time because im too impatient 💔||

[tacit mica]

No its just her

[neat karma]

Well then thats a good point to start, trying to be more patient

[neat karma]

Well then it still applies

[tacit mica]

Its too long to go back there, its not about difficulty

Im also lazy ahtbfh

[tacit mica]

I'm trying

Thank you for the advice tho

[neat karma]

Yeah exactly, ||practice in hog until you can beat her consistently so the next time you try it you wont lose your time by dying at the end||

[tacit mica]

||alright, I'll also try to be more patient next time lol, thank you!||

[neat karma]

Goodluck!

[tacit mica]

I appreciate it

[vivid lantern]

Oh oops

Completely forgot my fault

[solid heart]

||Bladur shell blocks everything, except maybe hazards (like spikes) I'm not sure||

Ah, wrong reply, sorry

[solid heart]

||Bladur shell blocks everything, except maybe hazards (like spikes) I'm not sure||

[viscid loom]

thanks, i beat her in the meanwhile lmao

😆

[shut sparrow]

it also blocks those

[undone jacinth]

||what ability i need for lake of unn ||

[solid heart]

Good to know

[delicate iron]

||isma's tear. u get it after beating dung defender in the Royal Waterways||

[undone jacinth]

||ohhh i thought i needed to get on that long thin mob flying above the lake
Forgot i can now go in acid||

[delicate iron]

you cant ride those sadly

[undone jacinth]

||what is this room for ?
It has closed doors on both sides
Just before kindom edge||

[upper nimbus]

||Anyone has tips for Great Nailsage Sly on the 3rd Pantheon?||

[upper nimbus]

||I think is the tower of love||

||You only can open that doors after getting in from kindom's edge||

[undone jacinth]

||Also should i go to seer to upgrade dream nail for 100 essence
Or should i save it
I don't really know what it's used for||

[upper nimbus]

||And you need the love key to access the collector||

[undone jacinth]

||You mean when i use essence to upgrade ?||

[upper nimbus]

||Exactly, but you won't spend essence, yyou'll keep it||

[neat karma]

there was like zero need to spoil every single reward

[undone jacinth]

I will upgrade
Then I will understand properly

[upper nimbus]

i marked with spoiler 👍

[neat karma]

yeah but im talking in the uncspoilers sense

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[upper nimbus]

ohhhh

sorry

i didn't know that

[near geode]

i see ||hornet|| im lowkey scared

[delicate iron]

where in|| greenpath or kingdoms edge?||

[undone jacinth]

||i have 900 coins
The bank is also full with 2500 coins
I have no where to spend it
Im just lugging it around||

[near geode]

||greenpath||

[delicate iron]

||greenpath hornet is pretty easy just stay calm and dodge her when she attacks||

[bright sorrel]

this was not needed

[bright sorrel]

[near geode]

im gonna lock in

im not locked in

[delicate iron]

unfortunate

[cold isle]

Hey friends

||if i die in a region and go to a diffrent one will i still be able to relaim my cash?||

[cold isle]

||if i return and kill the soul ofc||

[remote raven]

Yeah

[near geode]

i get almost no time to heal when im fighting ||hornet||

[cold isle]

Alr just checking, cause i am in a dire situation

[remote raven]

||As long as you don't die before getting back to your shade||

[cold isle]

||well i keep returnung to the spot, claiming it, dying and repeat. Its getting really annoying, like not to a boss, TO REGULER ENEMYS, i feel like a dumbass||

[remote raven]

Where are you‽

[cold isle]

||i think the place is called city of tears? Thats the place i keep dying, a friend told me about a secret place to get to it, and now im exploring that||

Sorry i keep talking in spoilers

If it gets annoying

||i just want my 500 fuckin coins and to run away 😭||

[lethal flame]

just go to the spot, kill ur ||shade|| and then exit the game

you'll spawn in the last bench u sat on

[near geode]

when im fighting ||hornet|| what are the best times to heal

[cold isle]

That works???

That works???

[lethal flame]

why wouldn't it work

[cold isle]

Il try it when i managed to play

[cold isle]

Well im scared if i do it at the wrong time i will fuck it up somehow

[lethal flame]

nah just exit the game regularly. u'll be fine

[cold isle]

Alrift XD

[lethal flame]

just play the fight. ||greenpath hornet|| isn't really a challenging fight

[near geode]

you have more experince than me

[cold isle]

You got this friend, we belive

[near geode]

all im asking is when i should heal

[lethal flame]

it isn't a challenging fight in any stage of the game

[near geode]

it is for me

[lethal flame]

when she's stunned

[near geode]

just say that 🔥

[cold isle]

XD

[lethal flame]

try the fight before asking for tips mayhabs

[near geode]

i already did

3 times now

[lethal flame]

u lost thrice more than the average player

[cold isle]

Obly 3?

[lethal flame]

that's the source of my confusion

well gl

[cold isle]

I suggest trying 5 more times, if that dont work maybe some tips or himts will help

[near geode]

4 times

[cold isle]

Early steps

Nothing serious

[near geode]

5 times

[undone jacinth]

||can i use dream nail in the lake and ghost place that is through the gate infront of the seer ?||

[near geode]

finally did it holy shit

[sleek rapids]

Should I play hollow knight again to finish ||radiant absrad||

[languid vale]

||is zote supposed to be in p3? i just did p3 and made a file on the new mode and decided to do p3 on it and zote is here instead of sly||

[sleek rapids]

Yeah

[languid vale]

i was preparing myself for ||sly and then i just see him||

[sleek rapids]

Well he’s not supposed to replace ||sly|| tho

You’ll see him only if you’ve ||dream nailed his statue in dirtmouth||

[languid vale]

||im in godseeker mode and havent fought the boss before so i dont know why he's here||

[sleek rapids]

If you’re in ||godseeker mode|| then that makes sense, I’m pretty sure it automatically puts him in the ||pantheons||

[languid vale]

||that is kind of annoying because i just want to do p4 with the equipment that godseeker gives me||

[delicate iron]

||ok i got descending dark and howling wraiths in steel soul mode. also crystal heart and dream nail. what should i go for next?||

[devout parrot]

||go for wings||

||and while you're at it get the pale ore from the lesser mawlek room in basin||

[finite pasture]

Can i get help with ||radiance||, she always kills me on 2d phase

[ebon copper]

my help: ||#hk-help message||, ignore the parts that do not appear in your fight

[finite pasture]

||I have unbreakable strength, unbreakable heart, shaman stone, and quick slash on||

[woven panther]

is there a limit to the ||colosseum rewards||?

[ebon copper]

no

[woven panther]

That's insane

[ebon copper]

the geo that is, the other rewards are 1 time

[woven panther]

oh nvm then

[finite pasture]

How would that help, seeing as i mainly just use ||abyss shreik, and a pure nail||

[ebon copper]

did you check what i wrote there?

its a full guide

[finite pasture]

Yes

Let me check again

[ebon copper]

it has multiple possible tactics with appropriate timings for all of her attacks

[finite pasture]

Ok

[ebon copper]

its separated into multiple spoilered messages cause its kinda long

[finite pasture]

Yeah

Just got back to the ||radience|| fight

Is there another 2 cost ||charm|| you would recommend

[austere monolith]

can anyone help me with the king||doms edge hor||net fight

is any one here

?

[drowsy yarrow]

Here's my tips: ||#hk-help message||

[austere monolith]

thanks

[delicate iron]

||ok got wings in steelsoul mode. what next?||

[lone obsidian]

i am stuck on ||pantheon 3||
cause of this thing

[stoic cedar]

||u just need to focus on the mount, once u kill the mount the tamer will give up and the fight ends. with that in mind one of the best ways to deal with god tamer is simply pogoing on top of the mount. the infection that the mount shoots out cant reach u if u r right above him, so the only thing u need to worry about is the mount walking forwards or backwards (potentially making u miss ur pogo), the tamer jumping at u, which u will need to dodge around or ddark, and the mounts rolling attack, which can easily be dealt with by waiting for his attack to end, then immediately resuming the pogoing after the mount lands from the roll||

[lone obsidian]

ah i see

noted, thxs

[lunar oar]

@stoic cedar yo dude

I need help

[sudden lintel]

With what

[lunar oar]

||p5||

[sudden lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sponge-jumpscare-scared-what-gif-6257162990672816180

[lunar oar]

so can you help ms

@sudden lintel dude you really ran away

CAN SOMEONE HEKP ME

[hollow bramble]

yeah i gotchu @lunar oar

oh shoot i cant help with that i havent done it lmao

i guess just practice || the bosses u struggle on in hall of gods ||

[drowsy yarrow]

Here's my general ||p5|| tips: ||#hk-help message||

[delicate iron]

||Should i go for Isma's Tear or go fight hornet in kingdoms edge?||

||steel soul mode btw||

[devout parrot]

||isma's||

||how many nail upgrades so you have||

[delicate iron]

two but i got enough for the next one cuz i did the ||second trial for a pale ore ||and got the one in ||ancient basin||

[devout parrot]

||go get it, isma's and do sentinel||

||then go get shriek from the abyss||

||and only shriek, shade cloak may be too risky||

[delicate iron]

||why would shade cloak be too risky?||

[devout parrot]

||siblings do double damage and randomly spawn everywhere||

[delicate iron]

ah yeah forgot about those things

they suck

[neat karma]

If you can do ||hornet sentinel in steel soul siblings shouldnt be much of a problem as long as youre alert, nail arts would probably help aswell||

[delicate iron]

i got ||all nail arts||

||Oro is a dick||

[neat karma]

Yeah, im saying to use them to keep distance

[devout parrot]

||he just pretends to be||

[delicate iron]

i might go to ||Dirtmouth for Nailmaster's Glory||

so i can be faster with my|| nail arts||

[jaunty wolf]

is it a bug that the game crashes every time i enter the ||mantis village||

[devout parrot]

||they're all bugs||

[ebon copper]

its a bit... very late, but the best choices imo for ||2 notches|| could be:
||spell twister (helps a bit with substain due to ddark being cheaper, while also improving dps)
fragile heart (if you find healing difficult)
soul catcher (if you do plan to heal quite a bit)
steady body + nail masters glory (for optimising dps)
steady body + grubsong (build for safety and stability)||

[onyx elbow]

Any tips on how to beat ||Hornet|| 2????

I tried more than 20 times

How to avoid ||Spikes||??

And how to get more life..? 🙏

[shut sparrow]

you can hit them with your nail ||or with a spell to remove them||

[shut sparrow]

||you can heal when she is staggered. Other than that it's pretty tricky so I wouldn't recommend it||

[onyx elbow]

Wow I'm almost 50th try

No hope

[delicate iron]

dont give up hope. you can do it!

[pulsar shoal]

Focus on using your nail, and clearing the ||spike balls.||

[zinc verge]

||shade soul|| is peak for clearing the caltrops
||ddark|| is good for damage

||hornet 2|| is actually really easy once you take care of the caltrops
its just ||hornet|| but actually normal speed

[pulsar shoal]

This is why I don't type in here.

[onyx elbow]

I hate ||hornet|| ooooooooooooooo

I'm fighting with ||hornet|| since yesterday

[zinc verge]

what

[pulsar shoal]

This is why.

[zinc verge]

dw
i struggled at ||hornet 2|| a lot too at one point
remember this
focus on clearing the caltrops when they are near you as it will clear enough space for you to dodge her attacks
the rest is just normal ||hornet|| fight but faster

[zinc verge]

want revenge on this bot?
just bypass it

[pulsar shoal]

Whar?

Ooh.

[onyx elbow]

OK I'll try

[devout parrot]

||grimmchild removes the spikes :3||
||this is your daily dose of my copium||

[zinc verge]

should still be grounded

wastage of 2 ||notches||

and no one is beating ||nkg|| before ||hornet 2||

[devout parrot]

well, you see..

[zinc verge]

its not tricky at all
just heal when she is at a corner of the arena and throws her nail while you are at a corner of the arena too
you can heal when she is doing the silk storm attack
but yep,
healing is not recommended once you get good at the bosses

[shut sparrow]

this is exactly what I mean by tricky

also why would healing not be recommended later on. Healing is always a very strong ability and it's usually worth it

[radiant raft]

Recommending not healing is literally the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard here. There is no world in which healing is a detriment to a boss fight.

[zinc verge]

keyword: once you get good

but when you aren't there yet
you can heal if you want

[shut sparrow]

how good you are doesn't really have anything to do with it

[radiant raft]

Regardless of skill telling people to avoid healing isn’t good advice

[zinc verge]

if you are good at the game
you don't need to heal much in boss fights

[devout parrot]

uh

yeah it kinda does

[shut sparrow]

you are repeating yourself. What is your reasoning?

[devout parrot]

||radiant|| (hint hint)

[zinc verge]

once you get to like the skill level where you can do ||radiant|| bosses,
you will find yourself not wanting to heal much

even in normal fights

but yeah
never said healing is bad

[shut sparrow]

well I am past that skill level and I disagree

[devout parrot]

||done radhog yet?||

[shut sparrow]

and again that's not a reason

[devout parrot]

well i havent 😭

yet i can do bosses consistently without healing

[shut sparrow]

that was never the discussion

[devout parrot]

yeah it kinda fuckin was but ill take your word for it

[shut sparrow]

healing isn't bad simply because you don't need it

[devout parrot]

im just gonna exit the conversation since i dunno what to say honestly

[onyx elbow]

yessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

I did this

after failing 50 times (maybe more)

[onyx elbow]

how to cross this??

how to ger ||shadow dash??||

[flat zephyr]

u have to go on another way

go abit to the left u will find another path

[onyx elbow]

opposite way has that monster too

[flat zephyr]

maybe just jump and ||dash ||then?

[onyx elbow]

I can't

[radiant raft]

There should be a route that goes over it

[onyx elbow]

ceiling is too low

[delicate iron]

about to do|| Hornet Sentinel fright in steel soul mode. ||wish me luck

[flat zephyr]

good luck

[onyx elbow]

....???

.....???????

[flat zephyr]

||steel soul mode|| is like hardcore

[onyx elbow]

wtf

[flat zephyr]

?

[delicate iron]

did it first try. lets gooo

[flat zephyr]

DAMN

THAT FAST????

IT DIDNT PASS 6 MINUTES

[delicate iron]

well i did have the|| coiled nail|| ||just one upgrade from the pure nail||

[flat zephyr]

coolio

[delicate iron]

i was worried tho|| Hornet ||hit me like 3 times and i only had ||7 masks||

[flat zephyr]

u still had 4 more

she cant do 2 damage

[delicate iron]

yeah but if you mess up at all in that fight it can lead to unnecessary damage. and i only had one attempt at it unless i decided to quit to menu to load to my last bench

[flat zephyr]

oooh yeah

i struggled hard on her fight

i knew her attacks but the spikes were getting in the way

[delicate iron]

luckily they can be swatted away by any attack

[flat zephyr]

yeah but its like the ballons in the fight w

wait i forgot their name

||lost kin?||

[delicate iron]

||broken vessel? or soul warrior in the secret sanctum room?||

||Lost kin is the dream version of broken vessel||

[flat zephyr]

those ballons are a fucking nightmare

[flat zephyr]

ik

i like that name better and i really struggled w in the fight bcs of those fucking ballons

[delicate iron]

oh before i did ||Hornet sentinel fight|| i tried to do ||Failed Champion, the dream version of False Knight, ||and got bodied instantly

[flat zephyr]

damn

[delicate iron]

thank god those dont count as actual deaths

[flat zephyr]

that sucks

it doesnt???

im on my first play so i havent tried that mode yet

[delicate iron]

any ||dream variants|| of bosses such as|| failed champion and lost kin ||dont count

[flat zephyr]

thank god

[onyx elbow]

what is this

[delicate iron]

the only ||dream|| things that count as actual deaths are ||Radiance and White Palace||

[flat zephyr]

idk

[flat zephyr]

damn

[delicate iron]

you need enough|| life blood masks to light up all the little nodules for a charm||

[flat zephyr]

tbh the ||white palace|| is fun

[onyx elbow]

I met ||hornet|| again

[flat zephyr]

OHHHHHHHHH

is the one from the dead one?

[delicate iron]

you just get to the|| Abyss?|| or were you getting the|| Voideheart charm?||

[flat zephyr]

i just got that charm lol

[onyx elbow]

charm?? where can I get??

[flat zephyr]

i dont think they haver got to the ||white palace|| yet

[flat zephyr]

uuuuuh

[delicate iron]

no that one is in|| Howling Cliffs|| i think

[flat zephyr]

yeah

thats what im talking about

[delicate iron]

In order to get into that room you need|| 14 lifeblood masks|| and inside is some platforming to get the ||Lifeblood Core charm||

[flat zephyr]

the dead child i think

idk if it was a child

[onyx elbow]

wow

where am i

[delicate iron]

well ||Joni's ||nickname was|| "the Blue Child"|| so i think she was a child

[flat zephyr]

fuck

[flat zephyr]

do u have that ||scream spell?||

[delicate iron]

you upgrade the ||Howling Wraiths into the Abyss Shriek|| there

[onyx elbow]

no

[flat zephyr]

damn

[onyx elbow]

OK

[delicate iron]

Speaking of|| Abyss Shriek ||i just got it lol

got the|| Shade Cloak ||too

[keen stream]

i'll finally play hk again after idk how long its been

may god bless my soul

[delicate iron]

You'll be fine. How long has it been since u last played?

wait im dumb u just said u didnt know

[keen stream]

i died to fckn ||absrad||

i died to the boss i practiced the most

i beat ||nkg|| first try now, awesome

[drowsy yarrow]

yep, that's exactly what happens to me and I don't know why

[keen stream]

im a god

still ||attuned|| tho

[drowsy yarrow]

sometimes I avoided practicing a boss just in case it messed me up

[drowsy yarrow]

any restrictions?

[keen stream]

no

[drowsy yarrow]

||I took a break for a week after radhog I think and I died to normal absrad||

[delicate iron]

oof

[drowsy yarrow]

I forgot her, then relearned her, then forgot her again over and over. Now though I think I'm finally consistent.

[keen stream]

i got hit by ||elder hu||

just wtf

[delicate iron]

im scared do i go for the ||Dream No More ending in steelsoul mode? or do i just go for the Hollow Knight ending?||

[delicate iron]

unlucky

[drowsy yarrow]

I almost got hit by him when ||shrieking|| at the start during ||r5|| runs

[drowsy yarrow]

depends, did you do everything else you want to do on that file?

[keen stream]

im doing ||p3 with nail and soul binding|| rn

jus noticed that the ||cyclone slash|| would last longer if it kills an enemy

[drowsy yarrow]

Also I have been hit by every single boss at least once in my ||R5|| attempts

[delicate iron]

ah so thats how you get it to last longer

[drowsy yarrow]

I thought it only lasts longer if you repeatedly tap the slash button

[keen stream]

i jus died to ||god tamer||

fckn hell

[keen stream]

its like the ||nart|| would stack itself every kill

[delicate iron]

target the ||mount||||, God tamer just gives up if you kill her mount||

[drowsy yarrow]

weird. I did notice that it's hard to stop it also if it hits an immune target with freeze frames like the ||godtamer beast in ball mode||

[keen stream]

ik, but... i literally forgot how i used to fight em

i've once again lost all hope

[delicate iron]

im debating which ||ending|| to go for

[keen stream]

||embrace the void||

[delicate iron]

should i go for|| Dream No More?||

i aint getting ||Embrace the Void on a Steelsoul save||

[keen stream]

you wont "die" in ||godhome|| tho

its just a dream

[delicate iron]

doesnt dying to ||absrad|| still count as a death tho?

[keen stream]

nah

iirc twas normal ||rad||

[drowsy yarrow]

No, dying to normal ||radiance|| does

[delicate iron]

thats weird

[keen stream]

is it?

[delicate iron]

yeah cuz|| im pretty sure absrad is the same radiance thats in thk||

[keen stream]

nah

||absrad|| is in ||godhome||

||radaince|| is in ||thk dream||

[drowsy yarrow]

||godhome|| is totally safe

[delicate iron]

i still think that if they're gonna make ||normal radiance count as a death even though its a dream they should make absrad count since that is the radiance's perfect form||

[drowsy yarrow]

Idk what it is about ||god tamer||. I thought I had her figured out, then I lost to her twice in ||p5ab||. A surprising number of people seem to forget that boss in particular. The same thing happened to several ||ab|| runners.

[delicate iron]

either way im not going through|| 5 pantheons for one ending||

[drowsy yarrow]

if you just need an ending for an achievement, you should do the safe one first imo ||(sealed siblings)||

[simple island]

technically ||godhome ending is safer that sealed sibling
though you can also just not get void heart and get base ending||

[keen stream]

there's just something about her tbh

[simple island]

||void heart|| is not required for 112% oddly enough

its like the one major item you don't need which you really should

was this not tagged ?

[drowsy yarrow]

||exactly what I do in r5 now||

[stoic cedar]

what, why the bot catch that, i spoilered it. but anyways i mistakenly put the wrong timstamp and now i cant edit it lmao

[keen stream]

i feel so ass rn cause of ||god tamer||

i felt so good doing ||absrad|| and ||nkg|| earlier, fckn ||god tamer|| ruined it

[stoic cedar]

bruh

uhhhh the formatting broke with that one

[plucky dome]

Imma delete this one

[onyx elbow]

what i need to do in ||deepnest||

[stoic cedar]

yea probably for the better, but tbf i literally spoilered it correctly but what happened was that the bot went ahead and put double bars around my original msg even tho it was spoilered already, making it format improperly and exposing the spoilered text

[tacit mica]

so fucking real ||especially when she times her jump with you so whenever you try to dodge by jumping she jumps in you at the same time||

[plucky dome]

Yeah something broke there apparently

[little mauve]

How do you even do the spoiler text?

[tacit mica]

you put these things || twice

[plucky dome]

||Like this||

[little mauve]

Ok

[onyx elbow]

||||spoiler tag in spoiler tag||||

[little mauve]

||this?||

[keen stream]

very relatable

[little mauve]

Ok thx

[stoic cedar]

i think kark said to mod mail to report any bugs with the bot? it definitely is smth that should be fixed

[little mauve]

||god tamer|| is the reason I haven't beaten ||p3|| yet honestly

I managed to beat them in ||hall of gods|| and such but I can't manage to do it in ||p3||

[stoic cedar]

its the same fight, u just need to fight it until u get consistent at it

[drowsy yarrow]

||God tamer sometimes has that bug where the beast rolls up the same wall it started at. That got me recently and I saved the clip, but I can't share it until I'm back at my computer.||

[crystal tide]

i see

[keen stream]

funny how the bot spoilered the spoilered message

[stoic cedar]

yea it detected it wrong

[drowsy yarrow]

the worst is spending like 2 hours practicing the hardest bosses, then resetting for 30 mins because of impatience during ||vengefly kings||. I probably have deleted a couple hundred videos of getting hit by them and resetting.

[stoic cedar]

damn, a couple hundred

[drowsy yarrow]

yeah, I ought to be consistent by now

I am consistent now but I'm not hyper aggressive anymore

[keen stream]

couple hundred sounds like hell

[stoic cedar]

||honestly what even is the best strat for r5 vfk, like i put in a few half hearted attempts into r5 and my strat for vfk is that i always try to target the right one first since that one has way less hp||

[drowsy yarrow]

that fight is just so much more frustrating than most. Too much screen shake, iframes on the adds, wonky hitboxes, excessive freeze frames cancelling inputs, obscured vision from exploding animation

[drowsy yarrow]

||I stopped trying to optimize it really. I just get shrieks on whichever one I feel safe doing it to, or double hits with shade soul||

It does feel slightly faster to go for the high hp one because you can sometimes hit ||spells|| on both at the same time

When there's one left, I go for a four-hit combo followed by ||shriek|| during the swoop

||pogo, dash, pogo, side slash, dash under, up slash, shriek, wings back on the platform||

[stoic cedar]

hmm interesting, ||i usually dont use spells a whole lot on vfk since i wanted to have a good amount of soul going into gruz mother just to make it go quicker, but yea probably i should just be spending that soul on vfk instead since there is infinite soul at false knight anyways||

but tbh i probably wont be making any huge efforts on ||r5|| anyways so idk why im so interested in ||r5|| strats lol

||my best r5 distance is broken vessel (yea i somehow got hit on broken vessel, i didnt hit bv quick enough to stagger it quickly so it went into that headbanging attack with the spewing infection which i didnt expect so i got hit)||, and i dont think thats improving any time soon

||but tbh if i didnt get hit at bv i was definitely getting hit at galien||

[drowsy yarrow]

I had to practice ||bv|| specifically because I kept walking into that attack, and also walking into his sudden turnaround.

[sinful vortex]

y’all, I need help with ||mantis lords, they’re beating my ass rn, also in city of tears, there’s this like glowing pad next to something with a keyhole next to it, what do I need for that?||

[drowsy yarrow]

||I think the headbanging can also instantly stop knockback. I experienced a similar issue with Hive Knight where he would instantly stop taking knockback when he summons bees, causing me to walk into him. I hit them at about max nail range (without reach charms) to prevent that now.||

[sinful vortex]

Y’all ||im kinda stuck rn, I need help with the mantis lords, any tips?
My current charms are long nail, soul catcher and the compass

Or should I grind geo first for the lantern and explore the dark areas in greenpath and forgotten crossroads first, also there’s this glowing pad in city of tears, what is that about?||

[drowsy yarrow]

What I struggled with my first time was the discs. When there are two, you either have to go middle and jump, or go to the edge and jump. You can sneak in a heal if you're quick.

I think you can find a key somewhere to open that.

[sinful vortex]

alr, would the ||simple key from the shopkeeper in dirtmouth work? Or do I have to find some other key||

[drowsy yarrow]

If it's the place I'm thinking of, ||a simple key should do it||

[sinful vortex]

alright

Like it looks like a ||circle on the ground with a white light coming out of it, and next to it there’s this thing where a key can fit||

[undone jacinth]

||My friend is stuck in beats den
He is at the very bottom right
Where there is a guy with a mask as shield blocking his path
He can't find any other way to go even though ive checked and pointed him direction map of the place||

[sinful vortex]

It’s next to the guy you ||sell hallownest seals to||

[drowsy yarrow]

yeah, that's the place

[sinful vortex]

alright

[sinful vortex]

also should I explore those dark regions first

or nah

[drowsy yarrow]

don't need to, but you can if you're curious

[sinful vortex]

alr