hk-help

[worldly blaze]

||🤣🤣I be back when I defeated the p2 and p3 ||

[ebon copper]

good luck

[alpine comet]

yeah ig

[keen stream]

tryna acclimate myself till i can do 1.5x speed ||absrad||
almost did it in 1.15x speed

i died to the climb

[radiant raft]

Just remember doing the fight normally at 1.5X speed

[ebon copper]

thats the bad part, bad rng just kills u instantly

[drowsy yarrow]

||I've forgotten absrad like half a dozen times. It's always better than before once I relearn her though||

[ebon copper]

ive spent more time on ||absrad|| than how long it takes for ppl to get all achievements, or even ||radhog||

[worldly blaze]

There's no need for luck when you have skill 🤣🤣

[ebon copper]

ive placebody myself to liking the fight a lot by now

[radiant raft]

RNG fights suck.

[keen stream]

100% agree

||radkoth and radblobbles|| are the worst

||absrad|| is just 30-40% rng imo

[ebon copper]

nahh, standard ||absrad|| doesnt feel like rng no mo, if i die i made a mistake

[keen stream]

for beginners tho

[drowsy yarrow]

||Absrad can have some mean combos in plats. Like when the beam wall obscures the sound of the sword wall or obscures spawning orbs||

[alpine comet]

you can say that for every fight then

[keen stream]

worst combo imo are the ||beam wall and burst, sword and and orbs, and beam wall and orbs||

[keen stream]

nahh

[ebon copper]

my fav is the beam wall with beam burst, if they are timed ina certain way and they overlap, it can ruin you

[keen stream]

there's ||hornet, failed champ, etc||
bosses like em

[drowsy yarrow]

yeah. ||I have to ddark through beam wall if she's capable of throwing another move||

[keen stream]

almost did 1st phase hitless

[ebon copper]

||ab failed champ|| is the reason im strugglig on ||p4 ab||

[ebon copper]

hellye

[azure locust]

that means that you need defence and If you have defence then you don't need offence. If you want to have an offence, then you have to say the best defence is a good offence

[keen stream]

istg, she wont spawn anywhere near the middle platforms

[worldly blaze]

|| So mark of pride just a better long nail || ?

[worldly blaze]

I just swing 🤣🤣

[keen stream]

having the worst rng in ||1.2x speed absrad but peak rng on my last speed kill||

[drowsy yarrow]

||You can sort of force him to run across the arena and jump over you indefinitely, and land a short cyclone slash before running to the other side. Although if rocks get in your way you might have to return to mid-field play.||

[azure locust]

Yea but you can combine both for peak nail length

[worldly blaze]

||What happens when I combined the long nail and mark of pride 🤣🤣||

[azure locust]

You get peak nail length

[keen stream]

fuck... i almost won

[ebon copper]

i should try that tech, i was just getting frustrated, cause he just desont stagger

like im not used to having to think in that fight

[keen stream]

whats 44/44 2/6?

[ebon copper]

thx

[keen stream]

is it another one of those nuclear code lookin acronyms?

[worldly blaze]

||Just wanna know if this is good for p2||

[drowsy yarrow]

||although I was practicing full mid-field play for R5 because it's more stylish, and sometimes he staggers too high on the wall to dream nail||

[azure locust]

||44/44 means radiant bosses. 2/6 means endings. I don't really do endings, as I spent so long on one save||

[keen stream]

ohhh

[ebon copper]

i have no problem dodging hist attack for like 10 secs

but i just fall apart if it goes on

[azure locust]

||What's R5||

[ebon copper]

||p5||, but hitless

[keen stream]

i thought its one of em ||R5ABCroco0w0|| thing again

[azure locust]

K

[azure locust]

Huh?

[ebon copper]

lol

[keen stream]

very relatable

[ebon copper]

reminds me of the teano vid

[keen stream]

i just experienced mental block

fckn hell

i keep dying now

[drowsy yarrow]

yeah, I can't imagine many people would be searching for ||R5ABN0WS||

[ebon copper]

its peak content what you mean

[keen stream]

hk acronym is the most complicated one i ever know

[azure locust]

||I don't even know how you do R5 without going insane, let alone R5AB. And what is N0WS?||

[ebon copper]

||https://youtu.be/62KBtMWPzi4?si=NHa-ONqHgq_PMiiG||
all he needs is to do it hitless

[keen stream]

kinda iykyk thing

[ebon copper]

and hell be the 1st

[drowsy yarrow]

||N0WS = Nail 0, White Spells (no upgrades)||

[azure locust]

How do you do itemless, ||how do you dodge the walls of light?||

[keen stream]

tank it and heal

[azure locust]

||Isn't nail binding just N0?||

[keen stream]

you can live with just 1 helth

[ebon copper]

pray

[keen stream]

nah

[azure locust]

That would defeat no hit

[keen stream]

||nail binding|| sets your nail dmg to 13

[twilit cypress]

any tips for || eternal ordeal||

[ebon copper]

you can ||cloud pogo to dodge lightwall tho||

[keen stream]

this isnt hitless tho

[drowsy yarrow]

||nail binding alone brings your damage down to 13, but nail 0 is the starting nail which only deals 5 damage||

[ebon copper]

i do say that it isnt

[keen stream]

also, itemless ||R5|| jus sounds literally impossible

[ebon copper]

its luck

[drowsy yarrow]

It can't really be hitless. Also he did have to mod the rng because it's practically impossible otherwise

[azure locust]

Then you gotta be a masochist

[drowsy yarrow]

||But only as much as absolutely necessary. For example it was modded so that TL can't do double walls.||

[keen stream]

my lower back hurts

[azure locust]

||Just try to kill everything. Also stalwart shell quick focus||

[ebon copper]

didnt know he did

[keen stream]

sounds like pain and agony

[ebon copper]

imma be honest, itc cool, but its increadibly useless, and kinda ruins your normal playstyle if you grind it too much

[keen stream]

i still wanna try tho

[drowsy yarrow]

||what they usually do is jump into the void to take one damage instead of 2, then heal||

[ebon copper]

yo @keen stream wanna go into ||https://discord.com/channels/283467363729408000/1099242076081754173|| watch me do a try?

[keen stream]

aight

try it in 1.6 speed

i wanna see the difference between 1.5 and 1.6

[ebon copper]

ill try 1.75

[keen stream]

hellyeh

[drowsy yarrow]

The acronym for ||R5ABN0WS is usually shortened to R045 where 0 represents N0WS and 4 represents all bindings.

Doing a boss 04r means beating it radiant with nail 0 white spells and all bindings.||

[worldly blaze]

||gonna be honest p1 is harder than p2 || 🤣🤣

[twilit cypress]

wtf is happening in the || eternal ordeal|| whys there so many viariants

[twilit cypress]

true

[keen elbow]

Anyone have any tips for ||NKG’s ground spike attack || that seems to be getting me alot and if I dodge it its normally based on luck…

[worldly blaze]

Man that fight took me a day to finish 🤣🤣

[keen elbow]

Yh does take some time to egt used too 😅😅

I feel like im almost there tho

[worldly blaze]

||I mean if he did the balloon attack it's 25% down so just need to see him do the balloon attack four or three times 🤣🤣||

[keen stream]

bruh

[keen elbow]

I don’t think he does it always he might skip it sometimes idk

[worldly blaze]

That's what I know what do you want me tell you 🤣🤣

[worldly blaze]

So close

Yet so far

[twilit cypress]

finally i can listen to ||zotes beutifull voice||

[worldly blaze]

I just let him chill with the spiders 🤣🤣

[keen stream]

jus did it

les goo

[ebon copper]

anyway, i did get to climb one, so i feel like i should be happy with that

[ebon copper]

grats

[keen stream]

thats alr peak

especially at 1.75x speed

[ebon copper]

at 1.75 i no longer feels like im fully in controll

like to some stuff i just cant react

[keen stream]

||sword wall|| feels like a jumpscare even at 1.5x speed

[ebon copper]

ye, hard to get used to

[keen stream]

||sword rain|| feels like ||anyrad|| for some reason

[sleek cove]

Guys plz help, I have 17k geos and I bought everything from every npc. What should I do with it?

[sudden lintel]

Suffer from success

[sleek cove]

Fr

[drowsy yarrow]

Including ||Divine||?

[sudden lintel]

(You do nothing with it or u lose it all for some reason)

[keen elbow]

Ok i did it now

[sudden lintel]

Damn bro doesn't even know ||divine||

[drowsy yarrow]

definitely save it, you'll need it

[keen elbow]

Finally

[sleek cove]

I dont care for the spoil just tell me what it is

I dont wanna lose 17k

[sudden lintel]

How long did it take

[reef hearth]

|| Markoth and Nosk || are my biggest opps in || p5 ||
Let me out😭

[keen elbow]

Only 80 hours 😭😭

[drowsy yarrow]

She's part of the ||Grimm Troupe DLC (which is included by default)||

[sudden lintel]

||go to howling cliffs and in a secret room dream nail a dead guy and then hit the thing in the middle of the room alot till u will see and then go to dirtmouth||

[drowsy yarrow]

||She requires a ridiculous amount of geo||

[sudden lintel]

Bro that's crazy

Only took me around 60

[sleek cove]

Ok thx

More than 17k?

[drowsy yarrow]

yeah

[sudden lintel]

Way more

[sleek cove]

And what is the purpose of that?

[keen elbow]

Yh im not really good at skill based games and i also take my time doing everything still got the ||Path of pain|| to do

[sudden lintel]

Bro hasn't done ||pop|| 💀

[drowsy yarrow]

||to upgrade your fragile charms||

[sudden lintel]

||(dont do pop its not worth)||

[keen elbow]

Yh i didhalf of it by hitting the lever and den left it ever since

[sudden lintel]

No real reward besides lore

[sudden lintel]

That's not ||pop||

[keen elbow]

Yh but its for bragging rights and like its just a thing u gotta do

[sudden lintel]

That's ||white palace||

[keen elbow]

No it is therz a lever to open a door then u go right

[sudden lintel]

Er

Since when

[keen elbow]

Basically u know when u finsih part 1 and 2 of it

Then u go left and right

[sudden lintel]

Nah i swear there wasn't a lever when I played on switch

[keen elbow]

Therz left and right

[sudden lintel]

Did I smh get a weird build???

[keen elbow]

Idk but u first go left then come around and go down and now the right door is open

[spice arrow]

right

i cant find this one ||im in the hive next to where its supposed to be||

nvm i found it

[ebon copper]

shit take

[tawny vigil]

there's a wall you gotta destroy to get to it, no?

[thin plover]

Bruh

[livid shoal]

Scam link?

[rustic orchid]

hi, i dunno if this is the correct place to ask, but im new to hk and have been playing without much guidance/yt/wiki and i just kept exploring random areas unlocking a lot of new places, but now i seem to be stuck where there are no new areas (they places seem unreacheable/un-breakable floors now) and the boos rooms are also empty, I'll be happy to give info about my stats and map but what should i do?

[hoary anvil]

🤔 interesting... ||bats seems like it would be the most difficult one, maybe requiring dive||

[fluid garden]

yeah could you show your inventory and map? spoiltag them

[rustic orchid]

sure gimme a sec

[fluid garden]

||for charmless nkg? jump towards him, doublejump in the gap between the bats, dash||

oh no jump

||yeah probably dive then||

[rustic orchid]

here ya go

[fluid garden]

try exploring ||crossroads|| more

[rustic orchid]

ohkayy, im scared i was doing it all wrong and exploring areas of higher difficulty, ig i should go there now :?

some areas like ||waterways, basin|| i couldnt get the map for but i explored it xD

[fluid garden]

you cant "do it wrong", its a metroidvania, do whatever you want
though if you want some guidance as to where progression is, follow my previous advice

[rustic orchid]

alright, thanks a lot!

[fluid garden]

no problem

[junior solar]

Guys, I am SUFFERING on ||The Radiance, what build should I use and what should I do? (I have all charms, but not all notches)||

[fluid garden]

||shamans and spell twister for sure, spells are great against rad. what specifically are you having trouble with?||

[junior solar]

||I can pass the 1st and the 2nd phase (the one that has the spikes on the laterals) But the third...||

[fluid garden]

||as in the one where the floor disappears? stay in the middle, dodge attacks and wait for her to come to you. use dive for iframes if needed, shriek for damage if possible and if you learn her patterns its rather possible to get a heal off while shes doing the beam attack. oh also at the beginning of the phase you can get a bunch of free hits off||

[junior solar]

ok! thank u! and also, anyone can give emotional suport on vc? I don't really need, but helps 🥲

[devout parrot]

||i didnt know what i was doing and accidentally got her to last phase with some abyss shrieks+shaman stone, pretty easy when you focus on dodging attacks more than attacking||

[pulsar shoal]

If I drop ||OVER 3k geo into the fountain, do I get the remainder? Or is all my 11k geo just.. gone?||

[junior solar]

||No, it just get 3000k geo||

[fluid garden]

no it caps, wont ever drop more

[pulsar shoal]

Oh good.

[rustic orchid]

also i cant defeat ||soul master|| so i assume i'll need new abilities for it?

[junior solar]

I KILLED ||THE MOTH||

FINALLY

[fluid garden]

other abilities would be useful yes, but with enough practice it is very doable

[junior solar]

Now I'm going to fight ||Grimm|| 🥲

Sad

i'm tired of unaliving

nevermind, i killed him

[snow steppe]

3000k geo

how does one acquire that much

[hollow bramble]

spamming ||colosseum||

[snow steppe]

yea but 3000k

not 3k but 3000k

[hollow bramble]

oh probably a mistake then

3000 thousand would be 3 mil

[snow steppe]

ye

[pulsar shoal]

Light work for ||Zote..||

[hollow bramble]

he's literallly him

[junior solar]

Light work, no reaction.

[hoary anvil]

(yeah i've done itemless before, the problem one there is the ||flame trail|| as it can be a bit tricky to get over it even with a pogo, although if positioned in a different spot it's possible without it)

[ebon copper]

ye, that and pufferfish

[solemn ibex]

i got scammed

[ebon copper]

its very doable ||radiant||, but if you wanna do it that way you need to use ||ddarks||, and somewhat predict, on ||attuned||, best tac is to just jump off for iframes

[keen elbow]

If you don’t ||save zote in deepnest will he still appear in P3 || or no??

[ebon copper]

he wont

but its better to save him on your 1st file imo

[keen elbow]

Ok thats good den

[keen elbow]

Its for a friend and idk just makin life harder

[ebon copper]

sure ig

[hoary anvil]

...oh yeah, that attack exists

[rare topaz]

I finally reached ||the hollow knight|| anybody got tips?

[devout walrus]

Do you have all ||charms||

[rare topaz]

No

[devout walrus]

Could you send the ones you do have

[hollow bramble]

play safe, learn his moves

[tacit spindle]

Guys, ||Zote|| SUCKS! I need help!!!

[hoary anvil]

||zote the mighty is not hard, they do not deal damage||

||gpz||... uh the telegraphs are weird and take some getting used to. beyond that we would need to know what specifically you're struggling with

[hollow bramble]

dont get greedy with heals and target the ||mini zotes it summons so u can focus on the main boss||

[keen elbow]

Can anyone tell me how to do last bit ||of path of pain|| ?

[keen elbow]

Can get 2 heals when hes down and 1 if something else is in the way and u kill it first

[hollow bramble]

watch a vid

[keen elbow]

Yh I watched two still don’t get ut really

One was reylea and when he did that part the vid lagged 😭😭

So it wasn’t clear

[hollow bramble]

||on the final jump, continuously pogo on the spike that retracts. the two sawblades on ur left and right are actually on the same rotation in terms of timing, so u can just watch the one on ur left for better timing when the right one gets out of frame. what u wanna do is be on top of the saw blade when its going to the end, pogo on it, dash underneath it then double jump to pogo on the stationary sawblade on the other side, then u can take ur time and get through with a pogo, double jump, then dash.||

[ebon copper]

||pogo on the spikes when they come up, wait for the sawbalde, pogo on it, dash under the sawblade, double jump, pogo the sawblade that you just dashed under, wait for the saw to cometo your side, pogo and dash||

ah me was slow

[hollow bramble]

nah urs is simpler

[sage fiber]

someone please tell me that the ||soul sanctum|| is optional

or that there's at least some other way to get back to him other than the bench near the map guy

[keen elbow]

Yh thats what i had in mind but its feels so much harder when actually doing

And when im actually there i have this problem where my thumb isn’t fully adjusted properly on the controller because ive been holding down to pogo just to get there

[keen elbow]

U mean || soul master||?

[neat karma]

technically yes, but youre going to want to do it

dont worry though since you can always come back to it later

[sage fiber]

does it unlock any sort of area

[sage fiber]

yeah I mean ||soul master||

[neat karma]

not exactly, but you do gain something important

[keen elbow]

It gives u an ability

[sage fiber]

is the ability needed to complete the game

[neat karma]

theres a bit of a shortcut, not much, but still useful if you ||go to the left by the entrance of the soul sanctum to the room with the elevator, part of the elevators left wall is brakable, around the middle of it||

[sage fiber]

it's my first playthtough so just regulalry

[neat karma]

but once again
.

[sage fiber]

I'll think about it

but the damn ||soul twisters|| are making me lose my mind on the runback

[neat karma]

just come back to it later

@fallen heath not the channel for that

[fallen heath]

?

[neat karma]

its really unhelpful to say something like that to someone struggling with it

[fallen heath]

Alr mbmb

[sage fiber]

dude theres like a small hallway and they just tp infront of me and block the way

it's annoying

[fallen heath]

@sage fiber did u open the shortcuts tho

[sage fiber]

I opened most of them I think

[fallen heath]

Drop down for the soul

I did that on every runback

[neat karma]

i do agree theyre pretty annoyying but you dont actually have to kill them, so as long as youre able to avoid the attack you should be fine

[fallen heath]

They will spawn there and u can run away

[sage fiber]

I can avoid the attacks but they just block the way to the boss

[fallen heath]

Just drop down when ur in the hallway

Hit the thingy with soul inside glass

[neat karma]

||A good way would be to avoid the attack until they teleport out of the way and then quickly pass through||

[fallen heath]

They will spawn next to u and u can run to the boss

I did that

[sage fiber]

im trying to get back so I can get a better explanation of what's happening

they also tp above me a lot when i'm tryying to get up

[hearty lark]

||i couldnt enter path of pain the same way... is it one-chance?||

[fallen heath]

When u get up the elevator hit it and let it go back down again without u so that its easier to get away on the next runback

[neat karma]

Yes, ||the only way to go back would be to make a new save file or use mods||

[hearty lark]

oh no

aight thanks

i wanted to suffer again

[sage fiber]

I do that but its just that they keep blocking up the hallway

theres one above me and one below

[fallen heath]

Mbmb

[fallen heath]

Dont go down

[sage fiber]

I think?

are those the little blob guys

[fallen heath]

Ig just tank a hit

[fallen heath]

Ye

Tank a hit

Next room ull get enough soul for a heal

Just be fast

Use i frames to get past them

[sage fiber]

I might just come back later or smth

I hate this place

[fallen heath]

U cant unlock anything thatd help u

U could get older and wiser but thats the only thing u can gain really

Or try upgrading ur nail to make it easier to kill them ig

[sage fiber]

damn it

I guess i'll just keep going

is there a set amount of health I should have at this point

cause I still only have 5

[hollow bramble]

u shud be close to 6 then

[hearty lark]

is this part doable?

ive been trying for a long time

oh

there are spikes btw

[ruby shuttle]

you dont need to go back up there

[hearty lark]

oh so its not a room

i dont remember going down there 😂

[ruby shuttle]

you dropped down that to flick the lever beside you

[hearty lark]

why is this locked

[ruby shuttle]

thats where you entered the first time, you dont need anything in there

[hearty lark]

sadge

i dont know what to do

[ruby shuttle]

you didnt miss anything

go to the center of that room

[hearty lark]

||i couldnt beat trial of the fool||

||beat grimm||

||got all charms||

||beat all warriors||

||what are other bosses with dream versions cuz i beat lost kin, failed champ, soul tyrant||

[ruby shuttle]

||dungdefender||

[hearty lark]

||ive been stuck at 100% for long||

||tryna grind money for unb charms||

[ruby shuttle]

you should play ||second trial in the collosseum|| for grinding

[hearty lark]

||where can i find dung defender its not in the boss room||

[sage fiber]

I beat ||soul master||

No more ||soul sanctum||

Im free

[ruby shuttle]

you use ||dive|| directly under the lever to the right of the boss room

theres no sign for a breakable floor there, but you do it

[hearty lark]

do the ||soul tyrant|| fight >: )

[sage fiber]

idk who that is but one day I will

[hearty lark]

just ||dream nail|| him

[sage fiber]

I will take note of this information

thank you kind stranger

[winter lynx]

Dude i beat him so long ago and i'm on my second playthrough and i FIRST TRIED him

Keep playing, you'll get really really really good one day ik it

That's the first hard hard boss, in the game

[sage fiber]

thats the beauty of soulslikes kinda

you can get as good as you want if you try

like rn I kinda suck at hollow knight

but I'll get better at it

[remote cobalt]

||any good cjarm buuld for p3 and collo 3 and nkg||

[stoic cedar]

||i mean each one of these can have a tailored build so u could have separate charm builds for each of those (especially for nkg since if u r doing nkg in the overworld, u would need grimmchild in ur charm build in order to fight him). but in general u can use the meta build of strength, quick slash, shaman stone, and spell twister (or two 1 notch charms like steady body and nailmasters glory)||

[static geode]

Apparently i wanna use my ||dream nail|| on ||this dude|| over here ||but it won't let me, what do i do?||

||he|| has a ||shield of some sort||

[stoic cedar]

||that means ur dream nail isnt strong enough just yet, in the meanwhile try collecting some more essence first||

[static geode]

||How much?
I got ~890||

[stoic cedar]

1800

[static geode]

Dang

I need 1000 more 😭

[shell abyss]

wait do u just need ||1.8k essence or awoken dream nail||

[stoic cedar]

||1800 essence is required to acquire the awoken dream nail||

[shell abyss]

mmm kay thanks

[sage fiber]

is there any shortcut to ||crystal guardian|| or do I have to get past the laser things every time

nvm i got him 2nd try

[sudden lintel]

Rage bait*

[sage fiber]

does the weird smashy thing puzzle in ||crystal peak|| reward you with anything worthwhile?

[tranquil oriole]

depends on which one

[sage fiber]

the one to the right and below the ||crystal guardians arena||

[tranquil oriole]

below, no not really

if you use the bottom left exit from the room to the right of ||cg|| there’s another one

[sage fiber]

I think i'll come back when I'm better at the parkour in this game

[tranquil oriole]

that one is more worthwhile imo

[sage fiber]

as I'm pretty bad at it

[tranquil oriole]

no worries

a big part of this game is not forgetting things you haven’t done/can’t do

[sage fiber]

that's true

from how much i've played at least

[timber sail]

should i just lose my ||shade and all the geo i've got|| cause i died near the top of ||colessum and my closest bench is at nail master||

i've tried to retrieve it BUT ||THE STUPID FUCKING PRIMAL ASPITS||

i have a buncha stuff i can pawn off for more geo

or i could try to return to ||jiji and use a rancid egg||

i could farm the ||hoppers here for geo to get that 800 i need||

i could also return to the ||city of tears to sell a few journals||

istg i cant find it rn

[gleaming carbon]

||you know there is a bench in collo||

[timber sail]

||i didn't get to collo, i died while climbing all the way up||

[gleaming carbon]

oh

[timber sail]

... i've fallen again to the bottom of the parkour section

[gleaming carbon]

mildly annoying

[timber sail]

it aint mild anymore-

[gleaming carbon]

lol

[timber sail]

should i just get ||wings cause fml this is annoying||

[gleaming carbon]

yeah probably

[timber sail]

like from constantly climbing the ||spire||, returning to ||bench|| and killing ||hoppers, i've made 500+ geo||

[gleaming carbon]

||just go down to acient basin and get it done with||

[timber sail]

fuck it imma lose that ||shade|| and have a full ||soul meter||

[timber sail]

||dk how to get there||

i was supposed to go to the ||colesseum for a pale ore||

[outer depot]

||dont try to climb kingdoms edge to get to colo, theres an escalator you can use above kings station to shortcut to it||

[gleaming carbon]

||pale ore is late game||

[timber sail]

WHERE

I KNOW THERE'S A LIFT THERE

[gleaming carbon]

||you need to break the wall from the other side tho||

[timber sail]

BUT I CAN'T GET IT TO GET TO ||COLESSEUM LEVEL||

I HAVE ACTIVATED THE LIFT THERE

[gleaming carbon]

so he has the climb it either way

[timber sail]

I HAVE, I WENT LEFT AND NOT RIGHT OPENING THE PASSAGE

BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET BACK UP

[outer depot]

you have the escalator room open there?

[timber sail]

there's an ||elevator there right?||

[outer depot]

yeah

[outer depot]

||huh my memory might just be bad then im pretty sure i got to colo first from just wall jumping above the escalator||

||but if theres a wall there thats not an option||

[timber sail]

im at 600 geo rn i think i should just kms at the ||great hopper area and learn a new nail art||

[timber sail]

there is a small ledge and i need to have ||wings to pass||

[gleaming carbon]

||you need to break a wall from the other side||

[outer depot]

||yeah if thats the case i think the only way is to just climb west kingdoms edge that sucks||

[timber sail]

is it in the ||tower of love??||

using the ||tower of love is a far better start than nail master bench to there||

[timber sail]

opened up

||but im fairly sure i need monarch wings because there's a ledge blocking one part||

the lift doesn't stop at ||colesseum though||

[gleaming carbon]

||crystal dash||

[timber sail]

wdym

[outer depot]

||^ wall jump from the other side and c dash over||

[gleaming carbon]

yeah

[timber sail]

left side?

you need ||wings||

either that or i really suck at parkour

[gleaming carbon]

like that

||c dash to the right side then go up||

[timber sail]

ah

that

that makes sense

so

i've sorta wasted a lotta time on an entrance i opened a while back

[timber sail]

anyways, is the ||first trial hard? i need to get to the second one for that pale ore||

i have 1029 geo on me rn

i mean either that, or i learn how to pogo off ||the crystal fly shooter in crystal peak to hallownest peak||

[gleaming carbon]

||there is a bench at collo use that first||

[timber sail]

used it already

[zinc verge]

it isn't at all

[timber sail]

i probably wont struggle like a mf

[zinc verge]

the second trial is harder but still easy

[gleaming carbon]

||nice so collo one is that hard but you have to pogo off enemies||

[zinc verge]

pogoing isn't hard
you will get it

[timber sail]

i have gotten half of it but i dont have enough hp to tank through qwq

fml, hate ||primal aspits||

[fluid niche]

Why can’t I see anybody in hkmp

But I can see people on the map

[zinc verge]

heres a tip
||nailmaster's glory is meta for all trials||

||dream wielder is a good one too||

[fluid niche]

Any ideas?

[timber sail]

||ig i could get the dream tree there||\

[gleaming carbon]

where?

[timber sail]

im using ||spell twister long nail and steady body rn ||

[timber sail]

||the part that leads up to colesseum, the long tower like part||

i used ||soul eater before||

[gleaming carbon]

||what charms do you have||

[timber sail]

or no point in using ||long nail||

[stoic cedar]

this channel is mainly for unmodded help. please see #1057825333841240104 and give the necessary details there

[timber sail]

rn

[gleaming carbon]

||switch soul catcher in for twister||

[timber sail]

i am tho?

[gleaming carbon]

oh sorry i ment the other way around

||that would be a good charm load out for collo||

[timber sail]

i dont feel like ||long nail is doing much||

||steady soul catcher and spell twister then?||

maybe i swing by ||nail master and get that?||

[zinc verge]

get more ||notches|| lmao

[timber sail]

am trying dude

the first ||trial|| gives one

aight learning rn

... what's ||dash slash supposed to do?||

ah nvm

it's kinda crappy ngl

[pulsar shoal]

Any tips for ||enraged guardian?||

[sly rune]

Send inventory.

[pulsar shoal]

Waht.

[sly rune]

Send a screenshot of your inventory.

[pulsar shoal]

I can't really do that on xbox but I'll try.

[sage fiber]

if you have a phone then just take a pic of screen if your on xbox

cause thats what I do

[pulsar shoal]

OH FOR HALLOW'S SAKE-

[sly rune]

[pulsar shoal]

I have 8 masks and 9798 geo.

[sly rune]

Equip ||better charms and abuse DDive|| as much as you can||.

I can give a build if you want.

[pulsar shoal]

||Downward dive? You mean the thing that's used to break downwards? What help is that?||

[sly rune]

It provides i frames.

And does a tonof damage.

[versed wharf]

i frames my beloved

anyways got any ||tips for sly?||

[sly rune]

Yeah lol.

[pulsar shoal]

I've just been using my nail this whole time.

[sage fiber]

a true warrior

[sly rune]

[sly rune]

What attacks you struggle with?

[pulsar shoal]

Speaking of which, im going right now to ||get it upgraded with the two pale ore.||

[timber sail]

imma assume the third ||nail master is in the blank part of green path||

[versed wharf]

maybe

[sly rune]

Yes.

[versed wharf]

maybe not

[timber sail]

before i continue into ||green path and fungal waste i am getting isma's tear||

[versed wharf]

is that even possible

oh wait it is

[timber sail]

i have ||cdash and royal water ways unlocked||

[versed wharf]

wait no

[timber sail]

though tbh

not sure how players would normally find ||the nail master here||

[versed wharf]

neuron activation

blank part of map = explore = discover

[timber sail]

fair

[sage fiber]

that's the method pretty much

[pulsar shoal]

I need a nail build.

[versed wharf]

and it's fun

[versed wharf]

what charms ya got?

[pulsar shoal]

Context.

@versed wharf

[sly rune]

||Quickslash, strength, steady body, longnail||.

[pulsar shoal]

How do I ||upgrade those three charms|| again?

[versed wharf]

i forgor

for ||enraged guardian long nail spam ddive with shaman stone||

[sly rune]

You can't upgrade ||charms||.

[sly rune]

Also, I agree with this more tbh.

[pulsar shoal]

I briefly remember that you can make them ||unbreakable.||

[versed wharf]

||unbreakable charms||

[sly rune]

Oh. That.

[versed wharf]

mhm

[sly rune]

Right, you need a certain NPC for that.

[versed wharf]

it's like super expensive too

time consuming:/

[pulsar shoal]

Explain.

[versed wharf]

ya fine with spoilers?

[pulsar shoal]

e x p l a i n.

[versed wharf]

||in howling cliff you can find a body behind a breakable wall, using the dream nail on it summons the grimm troupe with them comes a character named divine she eats your charms and makes them unbreakable for 9k for greed 15k for strength and 12k for hearts||

if ya want I can get some ss to help

[pulsar shoal]

Das a lot of geo.

[sage fiber]

geo inflation is real

[keen stream]

not really

[pulsar shoal]

Good thing I have no life.

[versed wharf]

||trial of fools||

relatable

[keen stream]

15k ain that much if you have an investment of 4.5k on the ||bank||

[pulsar shoal]

Counterpoint, difficult. :(

[pulsar shoal]

I already ||beat her up.||

[keen stream]

you would get more money than you gave her iirc

[versed wharf]

i keep forgetting;-;

[keen stream]

i never use one for ||jiji|| or ||iji||

kinda pointless imo

[versed wharf]

i didn't know that as a new player

i opend his door

didn't even know what he did

[keen stream]

fair enough

where did you get the 3 ||simple key|| btw?

[versed wharf]

and didn't learn what he did until AFTER I beat ||radiance||

[pulsar shoal]

||One you can buy from sly, one is just below the broken vessel, one is near Colosseum of fools, and one is just below the stag station in the city storeroom.||

[versed wharf]

||sly city storeroom can't remember the last one :/ ||

[keen stream]

demn

[pulsar shoal]

Having a ||112%|| map really helps.

[versed wharf]

yeah Ima go check ||basin|| again

i Barley ever use the wiki

[pulsar shoal]

Basically, when you go to the ||boss room for vessel, go down the first hole you see, then hug left until you hit the bottom, then go right and you'll see it inside of.. well, in the insides of a mawlek.||

[keen stream]

||absrad orbs|| curves so weird at 1.4x speed

[pulsar shoal]

I'm so lost on what to do next anyway.

[keen stream]

112% the game

[versed wharf]

||grim troupe||

||trial of the fools||

[pulsar shoal]

I'm gonna have to go through ||deepnest again||..

[keen stream]

||deepnest|| is way way better than ||godhome||

[pulsar shoal]

Can't confirm yet.

[versed wharf]

tru

||no key||

:(

[keen stream]

im getting hit with the worst possible ||absrad|| combo rn

[versed wharf]

haven't even unlocked it yet

i feel like it's gonna be painful

[keen stream]

not really

[versed wharf]

how

normal was bad enough

[keen stream]

its literally just like ||radiance||

just a bit faster

just a tiny bit faster

[versed wharf]

that tiny is like coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb level of difference

[keen stream]

nahh

[dawn grove]

Correct

[versed wharf]

speedrun

bleh

[keen stream]

just trick your brain

[pulsar shoal]

About to fight ||manits lords|| wish me luck pls.

[dawn grove]

Good luck

[versed wharf]

you dont have to fight them

i think

[keen stream]

see! its just a bit faster

[pulsar shoal]

It's a ||112%|| run.

[timber sail]

good news, got an ||upgraded nail with one pale ore||

[keen stream]

hell yeah

[versed wharf]

hell yeah

[pulsar shoal]

So my first attempt failed.

Turns out I can simply back out to the main menu and I /wont/ have to re-collect my shades.

||Only issue is, on how quick I died. Those damn.. what are they called? The projectiles that boomarang back.||

[solid heart]

Ahh

What

[versed wharf]

js jump

and pogo off the thingi

[sage fiber]

if its low, jump, but if its high, stay on the ground

[solid heart]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057517146055385230/1370495253190279218/gif4-ezgif.com-resize.gif?ex=682e352a&is=682ce3aa&hm=05a40d1a2a8a55fe0e6dc64529f4e57e26fc44ea48b1d882f62b0be7120d954d&||

See? Just a little bit faster!

[keen stream]

100% agree

[pulsar shoal]

You can pogo off of it?

[versed wharf]

yeah

[keen stream]

dude who made that ||anyrad|| fight gif is a sigma

[versed wharf]

you can pogo off your own ||spells||

[pulsar shoal]

???????

[versed wharf]

there a 3.0 version of it

[versed wharf]

it's hard but it's possible

[solid heart]

It was witherlight iirc

[timber sail]

i got the moth lady one, now onto ||killing flukemarm and challenging the colesseum of fools||

[solid heart]

I think the fight was Neo's first clear ever of 2.0

[keen stream]

gl

[timber sail]

either that or i should drop by ||stone sanctuary for dream(?)||

[versed wharf]

that emoji reminds me

[timber sail]

also 5 ||king's idol is so nice||

[solid heart]

But 3.0 is just, weird

[versed wharf]

what's yalla opinion on ||the collector||

[keen stream]

idk if i can do ||anyrad|| tbh
i kinda gave up on the idea

[versed wharf]

3.0>2.0 = must be harder

[solid heart]

Dumb boss
||If you one shot spawns: free
If you don't one shot spawns: hell||

But with low gear it's crazy af

[solid heart]

3.0 is like, a million times harder

[keen stream]

not just harder but practically impossible ig

[solid heart]

That's not even a debate

[lethal flame]

||ab collector|| sucks so much

[dawn grove]

I don't look forward to ||p3ab|| because of this boss

[keen stream]

first human clear was done with 100% glitch

[solid heart]

And that's still harder than 2.0 lmao

[keen stream]

100% agree

[versed wharf]

i just died to a ||mawlurk||

[solid heart]

Talez uploads every single ||time she has cleared plats, which is the hardest part||

[versed wharf]

a stationary object.

[solid heart]

Since that first clear, she has done 17 I think

Almost none get past ||climb||

[timber sail]

ok so

that wasn't worth the 800 geo i spent on the nail

||just got fluke nest||

[pulsar shoal]

I ALMOST HAVE IT.

[keen stream]

idek how talez found allat glitch

[pulsar shoal]

I ALMOST HAVE THEM.

[solid heart]

But the nail is worth it

[timber sail]

fair ig

[solid heart]

It wasn't talez alone, it was a group project for the ||anyrad elites||

There were bounties and everything

[pulsar shoal]

Whoever said fighting ||the mantis lords|| are a dance, they are RIGHT. It looks so elegant as long as those spinny halo bastards dont hit me.

[versed wharf]

would you believe me if I told you it used to 130+ dmg

[timber sail]

but i got ||cyclone and the upgraded nail specifically to kill fluke marm||

[versed wharf]

per cast

[timber sail]

yea cause lingering ||hitbox||

[solid heart]

And now it does 700+

[keen stream]

there's a literal group for ||anyrad|| 3.0??

[timber sail]

it stays behind a sec after casting

[sage fiber]

||mantis lords|| so peak

[timber sail]

so ||fluke nest + spell twister + shaman stone is pretty cracked||

[pulsar shoal]

Can agree.

[versed wharf]

favorite boss fight of the for a reason

[keen stream]

i cant even clear ||absrad|| at 1.4x speed, so i cant see myself doing ||anyrad|| 1

[solid heart]

There is a dedicated community for the 3 versions, but ||1.0 is completely outdated, so only 2.0 and 3.0 have real progression being made. The anyrad history is quite an interesting one||

There is also a discord server

[keen stream]

thats insane

[versed wharf]

how

[solid heart]

The33rdGuy, the biggest hero of ||2.0's original downfall|| is making a full documentary of 3.0 rn

[versed wharf]

dem

[solid heart]

We're all waiting

[versed wharf]

i just got on top of it spammed ||quick slash and defenders crest|| to keep its children away

[keen stream]

i wonder how long it'll take until there's a glitchless kill for ||anyrad|| 3

[versed wharf]

not happening i think

[solid heart]

Noaran and Talez are working on it, kinda

First they want glitched consistency

[keen stream]

insane dedication ngl

who tf made ||anyrad|| btw

[timber sail]

who pinged me i didn't see it-

[solid heart]

BobFred

[keen stream]

can he clear it himself?

[solid heart]

No lol

Maybe 1.0

He's a great player, but he never dedicated himself to his own craft

[solid heart]

Yes, but only if you know how to properly use it

[pulsar shoal]

Gahh. They got me again, I gotta keep trying, cause I know I can get them.

[versed wharf]

the creator creates not to beat but to create

[keen stream]

so its just "ha! you beat my past creation! now prepare for my new creation!" kinda boss

[solid heart]

||lingering hitboxes glitch is very finicky||

[solid heart]

Yep

[timber sail]

ye fair, i also dont have the ||charm that knocks enemies back||

[keen stream]

i always think creators test it themselves first before releasing it

[solid heart]

You can join ||Anyradcord if you want, it's a pretty chill community. Just use ?tag anyrad on any other channel and the invite is there||

[pulsar shoal]

Something I realize in HK, the further you get into the game, the more useless SOUL becomes.

[solid heart]

The point was for it not to be beaten lol

[timber sail]

anyways now that ||flukemarm is dead, maybe i go get isma's tears?||

[solid heart]

||Until you realize how busted spells are||

[solid heart]

That one's garbage

[versed wharf]

quite the opposite

[timber sail]

i need to go further into ||fungal waste, fog canyon and green path so dealing with acid is a pain||

[timber sail]

can you only pick one??

[keen stream]

she looks beatable and unbeatable at the same time

[solid heart]

??? No?
The ||charm that increases knockback is garbage, just that||

[timber sail]

ah

[pulsar shoal]

Ew.

[solid heart]

Ew what

[timber sail]

wait nvm i though you were replying to my||isma's tear msg||

[timber sail]

aren't ||spells fairly busted compared to nail?

[versed wharf]

push your enemies away the the way you push women away 10/10 charm

[keen stream]

||flukenest|| is way too op if you know what you're doing

[lethal flame]

that's the take i'd expect from someone struggling at ||mantis lords|| tbh

[pulsar shoal]

I beat them in four tries.

[solid heart]

They are, in the right circumstances

[timber sail]

base nail does 5 dmg and base ||vengeful spirit does 15||

[keen stream]

nail only ||radkoth and radblobbles|| is a real nightmare ngl

[versed wharf]

unlike ||nails|| ion know how to use the ||spells|| properly

pure Barbarian

[keen stream]

so ||spells|| are useful af no matter who you fighting

[lethal flame]

the convo from earlier made it seem like u were there for a while

[timber sail]

understandable ig

[keen stream]

they become more useful the further you progress into the game

[lethal flame]

it's impossible to argue ||spells|| are useless when one of them gives u free iframes

[keen stream]

100% agree

[solid heart]

Look at my beautiful graph of how strong ||spells|| are over time

[timber sail]

but like, ||dive in dung defender fight was so useful for me. i'd knock him outta the ground and get free soul with dream nail||

[keen stream]

fr, and ||shriek||? fuck yeh

[dawn grove]

Don't sleep on ||shade soul||

[lethal flame]

||shrieking|| thrice in a row in any boss is like dumping a damage nuke on them

[versed wharf]

||dream wielder|| is op

in combat

[lethal flame]

nah, ||dream wielder|| kinda mid. it becomes decent in specific fights but that's it

[timber sail]

yea like, 66 soul recharged for a 1.5 second nail charge is pretty good no??

[keen stream]

||shade soul|| feels like a lawn mower when exploring

[gleaming carbon]

thats if you can stagger it first

[timber sail]

fair ig

[versed wharf]

if you know how to use it it's really good for spamming ||shriek||

[gleaming carbon]

yea

[versed wharf]

you can do it without the stager

ja time it

[solid heart]

1.1 actually

[versed wharf]

ja git gud

[timber sail]

even better no???

[solid heart]

Yws

With full gear it's an easy A tier

||But I absolutely love it for N0WS||

[pulsar shoal]

Maybe I should try ||the second hornet fight|| by now.

[keen stream]

tbh ||dream wielder|| is only good if you know the boss pattern

[timber sail]

how far are you into the game? like gear wise and ||charms?||

[keen stream]

but the other ||dream charm||...

[solid heart]

Ew

[gleaming carbon]

ass

dooky

no

[timber sail]

i mean if you're gonna try and complete the game you're gonna learn it regardless no?

[keen stream]

i get offended just by saying its name

[versed wharf]

dan

[pulsar shoal]

Well, I don't have the ||shade cloak|| yet.

[keen stream]

still not enough

[timber sail]

||you got wings and upgraded ver of dive?||

[keen stream]

must learn until you do it hitless consistently

[solid heart]

You don't need to that much.
||But you can't get too much value out of it you don't know the opportunities before they happen, and that takes a while||

[pulsar shoal]

Not the ||upgrade.||

[lethal flame]

there aren't any difficult bosses outside of the ||pantheons|| that justify using a specific setup to beat them that ALSO allow u to use ||dream wielder|| on them

afaik

[keen stream]

at that point, ||dream wielder|| becomes one of the most useful charm

[versed wharf]

dude

git gud

just

[timber sail]

||upgraded ver is pretty good, but eh go about how you like lol||

[versed wharf]

git gud

[keen stream]

but if typical run, i only see myself using it on ||rad uumuu||

[versed wharf]

remove it from the game

[keen stream]

i think his nickname here is enough to know that he's good

[timber sail]

oh crap i forgor

||i have sly's key thing, do i give it to em or sell it to em or how?||

[versed wharf]

give it to em

for a surprise

best charm build

[timber sail]

... wth is the second one???

[lethal flame]

hk colorblind mode

[versed wharf]

||unbreakable strength||

[pulsar shoal]

I'm about to go into the ||second hornet fight, which charms should I bring along?||

This aint my current loadout btw.

[versed wharf]

sure why not

[solid heart]

lol, most don't know what it means

[lethal flame]

what is it

[pulsar shoal]

||Quickslash and longnail.||

[versed wharf]

don't use ||soul catcher|| use ||spell twister|| a million times better

[pulsar shoal]

I never got that one. oops.

[versed wharf]

if I can remember correctly

[solid heart]

||Whatever you prefer and suits your playstyle between the folowing:
Longnail, Qucick Focus, Quickslash, Shaman stone, soul catcher, grubsong, steady body, staltwart shell, maybe sprintmaster||

[timber sail]

||this one||

[versed wharf]

yes

[keen stream]

not even google knows about it

[timber sail]

that is what ||unbreakable strength looks like???||

[versed wharf]

literally me before ||godhome||

[keen stream]

and i forgot wtf it means

[versed wharf]

no

[pulsar shoal]

||I was thinking longnail, quick focus, quickslash, maybe something like grubsong, idk why steady body would be helpful tho.||

[solid heart]

Never thought about it, but putting ||R5 instead of P5 is ironically less elitist lmao||

[versed wharf]

i use ck

pretty fun

[timber sail]

ck?

[versed wharf]

custom knight

[solid heart]

More control over your character, it really helps in combo with ||quickslash||

[timber sail]

ah

[versed wharf]

mods

[lethal flame]

you don't seem to care about savescumming and apparently u dislike ||spells||, so do ||quickslash + strength + lifeblood core + steady body||

[solid heart]

Croco0w0 is redundant

Croco is harder than 0w0

[pulsar shoal]

Ah. ||Quickslash, longnail, quickfocus and steady body then.||

[solid heart]

in every sense

[keen stream]

so its just ||P5ABCroco||?

[pulsar shoal]

||I'll go make unbreakable strength after this fight.||

[keen stream]

your name shall evolve into it

[solid heart]

Sure, you can go with that, but ||grubsong wasn't a bad choice if you'd rather go back later||

[solid heart]

yep

[pulsar shoal]

Noted.

[versed wharf]

where do I find || winged nosk || I'm missing him in ||hall of gods||

[solid heart]

||p5||

[versed wharf]

;-;

[keen stream]

very relatable

[timber sail]

ok i FINALLY have ||isma's tear||

[versed wharf]

forget ||p5||

[lethal flame]

what's the issue ur facing with ||p3||

[solid heart]

[versed wharf]

||sly||

[lethal flame]

what attack

[versed wharf]

all of it

[solid heart]

Practice him in ||HoG a lot, he has some very discernable patterns||

[versed wharf]

i tried practicing in ||hog||

[lethal flame]

that's not very specific

anyway he telegraphs all his attacks very well, and there's no random bs that can get u

so it's a matter of learning the fight

[solid heart]

Here is Dyrati's guide

check that out

[timber sail]

aight time to get ||d dive, not sure where to get upgraded fire ball or abyss shriek but bweh||

[solid heart]

I can also get you a video reference of how I do it if you'd like

[pulsar shoal]

First attempt didn't go so well. ||She's really agressive.||

[versed wharf]

hell ya

thanks mate

ima attempt him

[timber sail]

i still havent found ||royal waters cornifer yet...||

[solid heart]

Me when he does ||a great slash telegraph and does a dash slash||

[lethal flame]

i just stay away when he starts powering up

and assume they're all dashslashes

[solid heart]

I've started doing that, it's been scaring me way too much

I'm not gonna risk my good ||r5|| run on bs

[solid heart]

||https://youtu.be/Mmz_rl2vd2E?t=17m55s||

[versed wharf]

i keep forgetting

The main problem with him is that he's a fly

[keen stream]

did you do individual ||bindings||? or ||AB||? or both?

[solid heart]

both

first ||eb||

then ||ab||

It was a great grind

[versed wharf]

did not know tgat

[solid heart]

Well, ||bindings are harder than P3, so it's not like it's gonna help now lol||

[stoic cedar]

||tbh u only have to worry about that when sly is near the corner, if he’s more towards the middle it’s gonna be a great slash||

[lethal flame]

i can't even do ||p5ab||

[pulsar shoal]

I can't tell if I just suck, or she's just really difficult.

[solid heart]

One run he did ||a dash slash, without a jump, IN THE MIDDLE||

AND I SOMEHOW DODGED

[lethal flame]

got to the ||absrad|| climb phase once, lost and haven't attempted since

[solid heart]

IDK HOW

[solid heart]

I mean, ||P5AB|| is like, super difficult

[versed wharf]

surprise ya didn't punch ya monitor

[stoic cedar]

Hmm never seen that before, I usually only see it near the walls. Must be a rare occurrence

[solid heart]

I can get the clip

[sly rune]

I wonder if singular form also gets flagged.

Ending.

Oh, it doesn't.

[pulsar shoal]

yeahigiveupforrightnow, ||Hornet electric boogalo is way too difficult.||

[lethal flame]

nah, ||p5|| is just painfully slow to get to the interesting bits. with ||ab|| it's slowed by 100x that amount

curiously i used to lose most my runs to ||collector||

[versed wharf]

||sly|| got me like

[solid heart]

that's like, 100% normal

[sly rune]

You know you can ||upgrade your spells, right||?

[pulsar shoal]

You know I don't use ||spells, they just dont seem useful for how agile Hornet is. Spells never do what I want them to do unless I focus on them. (stick drift)||

[versed wharf]

pure spartan

[sly rune]

Oh.

[lethal flame]

u can just say u dislike ||spells||. that's a valid reason to not use them. u don't have to make a nonsense excuse to back it up lol

[pulsar shoal]

Plus, the nail has served me well for days, why throw it out for a bunch of cheap tricks?

[versed wharf]

beating ||hornet|| spartan mode is satisfying

[pulsar shoal]

nonsense excuse
Stick drift is very real, Gael.

[sly rune]

I mean, ||spells|| really do help but you need to give it some time to learn properly.

[drowsy yarrow]

When you get ||R5||, you should attempt it immediately in case you get it twice in a row

[lethal flame]

if u get us a vid of u fighting him we can point out how you're losing and how to improve

[solid heart]

lol fr

@stoic cedar

[versed wharf]

i experiment with him

[solid heart]

I just saw now

he moved like 3 pixels to the right

[versed wharf]

attack patten any such

[solid heart]

that is like, isnanely stupid

ah dang it, it0s .mkv

[drowsy yarrow]

I can see it now: ||R5 + VFK distance||

[solid heart]

@stoic cedar Now fr

[sly rune]

Can't believe Genio beat ||Vengefuck King|| hitless twice inba row.

[solid heart]

He moved like 3 pixels to the left before his bs

[solid heart]

Actually Dyrati, you may wanna check this too

The fact I accidentally dodge it by a gut feeling is insane

[solid heart]

I'm going to get ||R5 +AbsRad final hit distance||

[versed wharf]

I'm getting the hang of the first phase but wth is that second phase

why is he flying

why is he spinning ;-;

[drowsy yarrow]

He did trick me with a ||dash slash|| that I thought was a ||great slash|| a few times

[keen stream]

that ||dash|| is insane

muscle memory at its finest

[solid heart]

And it's not a trick if it's entirely telegraphless bs

[drowsy yarrow]

also ||oro and mato|| can have some weirdness

[solid heart]

what ||dash||?

[keen stream]

that ||dash|| away in the last part

my brain cant process properly when im that close to danger

[solid heart]

I was just freaking out over the fact a gut feeling just saved me in the split of a second

out of some completely undodgable bs otherwise

[keen stream]

kinda weird he didnt jump back before the ||dash slash||

[solid heart]

that I hadn't seen

[solid heart]

That's the entire premise of the clip

Not kinda

And it sometimes happens near walls

But in the middle? wtf

[keen stream]

you jumping there is still insane tbh

[whole frost]

Oopsies

[keen stream]

in that same scenario, i'll prolly ||dash|| away

[solid heart]

It was a gut feeling, completely insane

I didn't have a mic

[drowsy yarrow]

The charge-up is slightly different I think

[keen stream]

i think its jus the same

[drowsy yarrow]

I think you picked up on those cues subconsciously

[solid heart]

Just video checked, no it isn't

It's the exact same

[drowsy yarrow]

duration and audio I believe

[solid heart]

I'm not gonna pay attention to that

Duration is the same

Also he stays silent while charging

So no

[drowsy yarrow]

The windup is longer for ||Dash Slash||, and the windup makes a noise

[solid heart]

Oh yeah, I see the time

But I hear the same sfx

Or at least it is too dim to hear under the music

the difference

[drowsy yarrow]

I think you noticed that the ||great slash|| was taking too long and jumped

[keen stream]

maybe its actually the distance

he's already way too far for ||sly|| to do ||gs||

[drowsy yarrow]

I usually turn up audio so that I can listen for ||sword and beam wall in the absrad fight||

the windup noise gets more and more pronounced the longer the charge too, so that's why it sounded slightly different to me, but they might have the exact same startup sound

[onyx elbow]

||Matis|| boss is too strong help

[drowsy yarrow]

What gear do you have?

[hollow bramble]

im confident the solution to this is just lack of experience

or rather the problem

[wary ember]

Sometimes ||Hornet 2|| feels like its impossible

I can beat her now 6-7 times out of 10 but i still having tries like this

[drowsy yarrow]

Here's my tips and video demo for her: ||#hk-help message||

[wary ember]

I saw that but sometimes when she is glitching at the wall like 2 times in a row and i jump and she attacks me after is unreactable....

Nobody can convince me she isn't input reading..... Even now that i can beat her now more consistently than before i still feel like she reads my inputs

[drowsy yarrow]

||The biggest mistake in the demo you posted was relying a bit too much on dashing. You can dodge most of the time by just jumping or strafing, and only dash if that's insufficient.||

||And she will force you to often times. Her jump is hard to avoid without dashing, so if you use it when you don't have to, you won't have it when you need it.||

[wary ember]

I try to not move much so she isn't reading me

[drowsy yarrow]

There's a few bosses that sort of magnet to you. Usually the solution is to save ||shade dash|| for when they do, although one person managed to do all the bosses in a row hitless and ||dashless||, so it must be possible without.

[wary ember]

often it is working but my ||dash|| arent coming back fast enough

[unreal oriole]

guys help me i am stuck , how to beat ||hornet sentinal||

[unreal oriole]

i am at that too

[wary ember]

scroll up a bit and Dyrati has a guide for that

[wary ember]

here

[drowsy yarrow]

||yeah, that's the result of using it in situations where you don't have to. You tried to shade dash through her when you could have jumped for example.||

[unreal oriole]

ok

[wary ember]

hmm

[drowsy yarrow]

hmm, rewatching it, it seems like you also didn't ||dash|| when you needed to. She attacks really fast, which is why I usually recommend only poking her once with the nail and waiting for her next move.

Basically just taking turns

[unreal oriole]

i died like 60 times due to|| hornet sentinal ||

[drowsy yarrow]

||Bosses like Lost Kin and Hornet 2 like to jump into the air and land on you. The trick to dealing with that is to train your brain to wait after they jump to give yourself time to identify where they're landing.||

There's sort of two types of reaction: subconscious and conscious. The subconscious reaction is what's responsible for the mistakes that make you think, "Why did I walk into that?". If I frequently make a mistake in a particular situation, I usually fix it by replacing my action in that situation with doing literally nothing. Then the conscious brain can take over and can replace it with a different action.

[unreal oriole]

@drowsy yarrow hey did i beat her she stopped moving

yay i beat her

[drowsy yarrow]

awesome! nice job

[unreal oriole]

finally 63 attempt

i used a lot of ||desending dark ||

alottt

[unreal oriole]

will i ever talk to her again ??

[alpine comet]

who?

[unreal oriole]

||hornet||

[alpine comet]

yeah

[unreal oriole]

i beat her the second time

now ??

she saved me too

[keen stream]

siblings indeed

[unreal oriole]

wait we are siblings ???

[alpine comet]

i think bro did a unessesary lore spoiler

[keen stream]

are we?

mb twin

[unreal oriole]

like i did not know that