hk-help

[cursive lintel]

should i watch a vid

[ruby shuttle]

if you want. you just gotta focus on the main things and not get sidetracked

[flat sundial]

I did it in 4:30 with some practice, so I wish you can do it

[cursive lintel]

did u just go off muscle memory?

[flat sundial]

Ahhh no?

[acoustic sigil]

You do need a preplanned route

Or at least it's recommended

[flat sundial]

Yea

[cursive lintel]

where do i find one

[acoustic sigil]

You can make one yourself

Or just follow fireb0rns

[cursive lintel]

ok

[acoustic sigil]

||https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602||

[cursive lintel]

ty

[flat sundial]

You also can find one o youtube

[full rain]

Just did it first try with this route you are the goat man

[stone trellis]

||where can i get the remaining 4 charms||

[tame trout]

What's the best place to farm geo?

[stone trellis]

||colosseum of fools||

[tame trout]

Ye ik that but i mean like normal place

Not boss fighting

[stone trellis]

hold on lemme ask chatgpt

[tame trout]

I heard it's the start of the ||kingdom's edge|| it's pretty nice but idk

[tame trout]

Oh lmao😭

[acoustic sigil]

||Greenpath, crystal peak, || uhh

[tame trout]

||nightmare grim||?

[acoustic sigil]

||Crossroads and deepnest||

[acoustic sigil]

No

[tame trout]

Ah nvm im blind

I can't defeat ||soul tyrant||, any tips?

[stone trellis]

chatgpt said to farm hoppers

[wary gust]

||collosseum is better||

It’s easier and faster

[acoustic sigil]

||Hoppers is faster||

But lame

[wary gust]

Fr?

[acoustic sigil]

Yeah

Like 700+ geo/min

[livid shoal]

With or without ||Greed||

[acoustic sigil]

With

[stone trellis]

with

thats like asking "should i hunt a deer with or without a gun"

[livid shoal]

You could use a bow :JiequanMock:

[stone trellis]

yes but its easier with a gun

[livid shoal]

With or without a silencer

[stone trellis]

the deer wont hear the bullet hit it either way so who cares

[livid shoal]

What if there's multiple?

[stone trellis]

bomb

[livid shoal]

...

So no meat

Okay

[wary gust]

Cooked meat

[livid shoal]

A grenade doesn't cook meat

[wary gust]

Have you ever tried

[lethal flame]

frag bomb

[tame trout]

How to remove a ||dreamgate||

[acoustic sigil]

Place it somewhere else

[tame trout]

Alright ty

[acoustic sigil]

But once you have it placed the first time, you'll never have it nowhere

[tame trout]

It's okay atleast i can move it

[lethal flame]

... you didn't try before asking?

[solid heart]

Set it again somewhere else

||dreamnail + down||

[solid heart]

I misread. It's not snail, I'm just stupid
I read "at least can I move it"

[glad lava]

Idleness grows from ignorance

[solid heart]

4 snails, excuse me

Don't attack my comment, attack my intelligence please

[glad lava]

the comment is a sign of your intelligence

[drowsy yarrow]

||Hornet 2 Tips:

• Slash once and wait for her attack. She won't always attack immediately, but if she does, you'll be glad you only went for one slash. You can get away with two slashes if you have quick slash and good timing.
• Use spells to clear spikes
• Time shade soul as her thread spin is ending for a double hit
• When she jumps, wait until you know the trajectory before dashing out of the way. Do not dash too early

Tip catalogue #hk-help message
||

[shut sparrow]

thanks

[ember relic]

i dont know where my shadow is im where im meant to be but i dont see it anywhere

someone help please

[glad lava]

show map

[flat sundial]

Where did you die?

[ember relic]

this is where im stuck at

[flat sundial]

O

[glad lava]

check all around the room

there’s a good few hidden crevices in that room

[ember relic]

you mind if i join a vc and you help me look for it?

[glad lava]

can’t rn sorry

but you might have to go to the very leftmost side of that room and use the ||passage that goes above it||

[ember relic]

i dont know where the entrance to the passage is im lookin around for it

[shut sparrow]

||this is a common thing to happen. In this specific spot your shade can spawn outside of your reach. So you probably can't get it right now||

[ember relic]

||so did i just lose all of my geo||

[shut sparrow]

there is a way to ||get your shade but idk if I should spoil it for u since you might want to figure that out on your own later||

[ember relic]

||i dont mind a little spoiling||

[shut sparrow]

do you have ||a simple key|| in your inventory?

[ember relic]

||i do||

oops

[glad lava]

||look to the right of dirtmouth||

[ember relic]

eh i guess it doesnt matter if thats not spoiled

[glad lava]

better safe than sorry

[ember relic]

well i just died again tryna go back so there goes that

[glad lava]

🏴‍☠️

[ember relic]

time to grind out geo again

also @flat sundial it wasnt there

[flat sundial]

Ok

[glad lava]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[flat sundial]

Practicly I have to put a spoiler warning in every thing I say?

[glad lava]

yes

[flat sundial]

[glad lava]

it’s a good policy

protects new players from spoilers

[flat sundial]

Ok

[flat sundial]

But I dont think here a person who doesn't know anything about the game.

But its ok

[glad lava]

there are many

[flat sundial]

I dint know that

[dawn grove]

A lot of people join this server just to get advice when playing the game, so he's right, there's many

[flat sundial]

||So how do I beat gray Prince zote in radiant dificulty. Any tips? ||

Ok now I know how to do it

[glad lava]

summon the dyrati

[flat sundial]

?

Dyrati?

[glad lava]

||Zote Tips:

• Nail Slam: Try to dodge it by walking, and only dash after he commits
• Shadow Slam: Watch the top of the screen for where he will fall, or just ddark
• Walk at you: Watch for when he crouches down. Dash away or through him
• Zotelings: kill as they spawn
  • volatile: use shade soul to clear some
• Flail
  • pogo him lower than normal so that if he falls, you'll still hit him
  • be ready to dash to the side in case of stagger
  • alternatively, cling to the wall

Sample video: #hk-help message
Tips catalogue #hk-help message
||

praise Dyrati and their sacred walls 🙏

[flat sundial]

🗿👍

Good wall tip

[solid heart]

Dryati goated

[flat sundial]

Ok am gonna try it again

[drowsy yarrow]

I should make a new ||Zote|| video without ||bindings||

[flat sundial]

Thank dude it actually worked.

[solid heart]

I was thinking about it, I think ||N0WS is a beautiful format to show off strats, since the gameplay is pretty close to regular, just significantly longer. Also not radiant because you want to show heals too||

I could help you out with vids

[full rain]

Does any of the stuff in ||godhome|| contribute to ||112%||

[full kayak]

Yes

All of it except ||pantheon 5 and hall of gods||

[full rain]

Alright thanks

[flat sundial]

||First 4 panteons||

Im so close!!!

[full kayak]

Is that on mobile..?

[flat sundial]

Yes

[full kayak]

I didn’t even know hk was on mobile?

[livid shoal]

We love piracy

[flat sundial]

Yes

[full kayak]

I ❤️ piracy

[flat sundial]

I think the hardest one is ||Sisters of battle|| or ||Markoth||

I think am going to beat next ||sly||

[sinful coyote]

lol i only have ||radiance|| left but ||markoth|| took like twice as long as the rest of the bosses combined

||SoB|| is pretty easy to practice on though

but yeah ||sly|| is prolly the easiest one ya got left

[dense ivy]

guys Im having a bug where character models are sort of glitching and this picture is just an example but I als had this with ||pale lurker|| where he just glitches in and out. anyone know a solution to this? so far had this twice and its quite annoying.

[radiant raft]

Have you tried restarting your game? Do you have mods installed? Are you a pirate?

[dense ivy]

no mods not pirated and restarting the game is something ive done multiple times

ive tried alot of different things but nothing worked so far :(

[radiant raft]

Are your files messed up? Have you been altering the files?

[dense ivy]

nope

its my first playthrough ever

never done anything in the files or whatever

[solid heart]

Verify file integrity perhaps

It's an option in steam

[dense ivy]

also tried that and then it happened with ||pale lurker||

and apparently everyone ive asked and everywhere ive looked no one has ever seen this

not even on reddit do people have a solution to this or had this problem

[reef bay]

what does he mean by this? is there multiple paths?

[valid bronze]

||what i have to do with dreamers in the map||

[solid heart]

Ask in #modding-discussion

[devout walrus]

||Get the dream nail and use it on them when you reach them||

[solid heart]

Maybe. But do as you think you should

[reef bay]

I wanna follow that guy, but idk if I'll be able to fight ||nkm||

[livid shoal]

-# :3

[solid heart]

Spoiler of what it does, since I think there's no other way to answer (caution): ||no :(, you can't fight Nkg||

[valid bronze]

ty

[solid heart]

Btw Dyrati

[drowsy yarrow]

Yeah. Showing heals could be very useful. I could make a table of videos rather than just one sample ||(with charms, without charms, ab, n0ws)||. There's a fair amount of value in each type of video. Although I think the ideal video would strike a balance between being concise and being complete enough to demonstrate each tip.

I beat ||Hornet 2 radiant|| like 3 dozen times earlier, and I picked the video I thought was easiest to follow.

[solid heart]

Idea: ||n0ws, but you start at 1 hp, and you try to heal yourself back to 9 masks during the fight||

Or the standard 5 if you feel it's too long

[drowsy yarrow]

That is a useful skill to have. I went into ||Zote with 2 masks|| left so many times

[solid heart]

Indeed

Although ||ab healing is tuff||

[flat sundial]

I cant beat it 💀

[sinful coyote]

use ||elegy|| if your really running out of ideas

[flat sundial]

Is the second phase, I JUST CANT HIT IT.

And in mobile is a lot harder

[stoic cedar]

||pantheon|| needs to be spoilered

[flat sundial]

Oh

Sorry I forgot that 💀

[solid heart]

Use ||shaman shade souls, you can get triple hits pretty consistently||

[flat sundial]

I should try it

Give a some minutes

[stoic cedar]

||great slash is a good option of u don’t have the soul to use shade soul||

[flat sundial]

||That was an exellent idea, but I had to use 9 shade souls 💀||

[flat sundial]

||Thats a good idea but in mobile its imposible for me to charge the great slash and move away from sly at the same time 💀||

Any ways I beat it.

Only 3 more 💀 and are the hardests ones.

[solid heart]

||Hardest ones 💀
Bro, you have absrad already||

[flat sundial]

||Sisters of battle and markoth 💀||

[solid heart]

||SoB is free||

||obblobles is hard, top 5, but not top 3||

[flat sundial]

||Oblobble I cant beat it cause its Just luck I cant move away from the projectiles||

[solid heart]

||AbsRad and gpz are already done, it's just markoth||

[flat sundial]

@solid heart ||"SoB FREE" 💀||

I cant focus at the three at onces

||And for some reason the watcher knight's cost me a lot||

[solid heart]

||SoB compares to NKG and PV, it's just learning the fight, you don't have to deal with much bs||

[solid heart]

Because it's hard

[flat sundial]

600 hp each one 💀

[modest elm]

They|| attack one at a time.
You are dodging one teleporting hitbox that also can take damage||

Move ||slowly across the floor (ideally centrish) of the arena, jump only when you see one about to dash from the sides||

||Pogo when you jump, slash behind you after running (NOT dashing) out of a dive attack, and cast DDark whenever you get confused||

[flat sundial]

When am in a side that its not the center they Just teleport where am in.

[sharp torrent]

which is a good reason to stay in the center

[modest elm]

^

And they ||also won’t start that animation if you’re on that corner. So you’re just moving (likely dashing) into that space too quickly||

[sharp torrent]

ideally, if you do ever go to the side, ||it should be to follow a dash attack, then pogo -> ddark||

[modest elm]

Gold Star

[flat sundial]

👍

[drowsy yarrow]

thank you! I'm just updating the previous instructions with a dedicated video and some extra tips

[flat sundial]

And what with the oblloble?

[solid heart]

U sure? I've been brutally sniped way too many times in ||R5 and P5AB|| to count

[modest elm]

Fairly|| sure, then again I hardly ever leave the center quickly so what do I know||

[sharp torrent]

if you are completely stationary on that side then yes they are never telefragging you

[solid heart]

My strat has had to become ||oh fuck, I'm in the corner again, ddark||

And it has actually saved me of impossible telefrags

[solid heart]

Yeah, ig, but how long is that time you have to wait to not get hit? Because I've even been caught in the ||ddark animation||

[modest elm]

Dodge ||the blobs, quit squeezing in heals if there are 2 of them, damage them as equally as you can - you effectively shorten the duration of the rage-phase by doing this.
You may also psuedo direct where they go by hitting them from the direction you want them to go.||

[drowsy yarrow]

||Zote Tips:

• Nail Slam: Try to dodge it by walking, and only dash after he commits
• Shadow Slam: Watch the top of the screen for where he will fall, or just ddark
• Walk at you:
  • Watch for his telegraph of this move (he crouches down). Dash away or through him.
  • If you're near the edge, go through him so he doesn't box you into a corner
  • If you hit him shortly after he begins walking, he will immediately switch to another move
• Zotelings:
  • they have some invincibility when they spawn
  • shriek is very useful and can take out several at once
  • don't chase them if they got away, wait for them to come to you
  • ddark if you're surrounded
  • volatile zotelings: use shade soul to clear a path so that you don't get trapped
• Flail
  • pogo him lower than normal so that if he falls, you'll still hit him
  • be ready to dash to the side to avoid getting hit by his stagger
  • if you think he's close to staggering, you can ddark, but make sure to full jump immediately after you regain control
  • alternatively, you can cling to the wall to be safe

Tip catalogue #hk-help message
||

[drowsy yarrow]

YESSS Finished ||R3||!!

[sly rune]

[ebon copper]

what are the 2 missing pickups?

[drowsy yarrow]

||R4 and R5||

[ebon copper]

ahh, makese sense

congrats

[drowsy yarrow]

Thank you! Those tips I uploaded today are artifacts of today's practice. Trying to make the ideal video for this channel forced me to seriously practice those fights.

[twin heron]

||
Hello, I am missing a pale mineral to make the final sting. Does anyone know how I can find out which one I am missing?||

[ebon copper]

whichever of these that you havent got yet

[languid kelp]

||I'm geuinely malding over Lost Kin. Is Defender's Crest really worth it in the fight? Not even Hiveblood is helping out much here, this guy keeps predicting a lot of my moves and he's so damn quick.||

Like, wow am I getting my ass whooped

[ebon copper]

||lost kin|| does not have a prediction ai, so if it feels like hes predicting you thats partiaclly by chance

[languid kelp]

||He sure as hell is a Vessel I'll tell you that for sure||

So tanky as well lmao

[twin heron]

||Oh, thanks, I remembered the locations and now I know which one I'm missing. Since the first time I saw her, I haven't gone back to the psychic, so that's what I think.
||

[ebon copper]

the reason people suggest ||defender crest|| is because the ||ghosts only have 1hp||, so having ||defenders crest|| on means they will never be able to hit you

i would recommend ||upgrading your nail|| for ||lost kin|| if its your 1st time fighting him

[languid kelp]

It's probably because I'm new to the game but his moves are too quick and unpredictable in general.

The ||ghosts|| just make it worse.

[languid kelp]

||My nail is at tier 3||

[ebon copper]

you can come back to ||lost kin|| later if you are feeling overwhelmed

[languid kelp]

I know he doesn't have a prediction AI but he sure as hell acts like he does

I genuinely don't know how to deal with him other than just upgrading

So whatever, I'll come back

[supple fulcrum]

||d dark|| is really useful against him and pre much all bosses thx to the invincibility frames. other than that try to not panic ||dash|| and in general be patient.

[languid kelp]

True

[supple fulcrum]

just trying to survive without attacking for a long time helps you see how much time you have to react so you could give that a run

[boreal spade]

Bro

Show your map rn

[languid kelp]

one sec

[boreal spade]

Oh wait || lost kin||

you have || defenders crest || right

[languid kelp]

Yes, but it doesn't help much

[boreal spade]

It instantly kills the balloons

So you can focus || lost kin|| and heal during staggers

[languid kelp]

||The main issue is Lost Kin himself, the ghosts are something else. My reaction speed and timing sucks||

Also

[boreal spade]

Oh

[boreal spade]

Bro you don’t need ||essence|| rn

Beat the game first

[languid kelp]

wdym beat the game first

I am just exploring

To see what I can find

[boreal spade]

oh well

|| lost kin|| is useless for now

Don’t even worry about him

[gleaming carbon]

have fun in the left side of the map

[languid kelp]

lol

[boreal spade]

Idk why people say traversing there is hard

Ngl never had a problem

Besides saving (you know who)

[gleaming carbon]

||more queens gardens wave rooms||

[boreal spade]

True

I hate the boss there

Like

Why is the bench so far away

[gleaming carbon]

||cough cough dreamgate||

[boreal spade]

bro thinks I grinded ||escense|| before getting ||that half||

I beat him first time I went there

I’m very persistent

[gleaming carbon]

im more of an effiecent kind of guy

[boreal spade]

I’m also good at platforming so I didn’t ever really fall

[zinc verge]

heres tips against ||lost kin||:
||learn to manage the balloons along with lost kin.
when a balloon spawns near you when lost kin is far away, just take it out using your nail.
when a balloon spawns right near you while you are dealing with lost kin, use descending dark because you won't be able to dodge it and take damage.
pay attention to lost kin more as this guy loves to reposition and all that.
just pogo him when he dashes towards you.
go under him during his air dash.
pay more attention to see whether he is doing a jump or a slam attack.
when he does his slam attack, stay close to him and get a few nail hits in when he lands.
when you have a lot of souls, you can use shade soul when you are far away from him and there are balloons if you wanna take them out.
use descending dark to do what i said earlier.
you can probably use abyss shriek during his slam attack if you want to deal a lot of damage.
the charms that I recommend?
strength, shaman, quickslash
then just steady body and the last notch being anything you want.
my recommendations would be grubsong or nailmaster's glory||

[gleaming carbon]

damn

[boreal spade]

I was wondering what they were typing

[tribal solstice]

what is that sign on that map?

[languid kelp]

||The Black Egg Temple. It becomes labeled with the Hollow Knight’s helmet after visiting his memorial in the City of Tears.||

[tribal solstice]

ah I see do i need anything to do it?

i visited there and there was nothing(?)

🤣

[languid kelp]

I couldn’t copy my message

[tribal solstice]

i see what it means tho

[languid kelp]

I’m sure you read it

It’s where he’s trapped

[tribal solstice]

AH HA

[languid kelp]

If I’m correct

What do you mean by that

[tribal solstice]

i mean im not sure it is good to do that

[languid kelp]

What does ||overcharming|| mean

[tribal solstice]

since if its gonna weaken idk

[tribal solstice]

meaning overly equipped charms

ahhhh

[languid kelp]

Is it even possible to do that?

[tribal solstice]

i looked it up and says it can

👀

i just dont wanna die early

idk

oop there u go

I made it to the ||city of tears||

just to get ||isma's tears||

so painful

[languid kelp]

I’m still kind of behind in the game

I don’t know where to go as of rn but I’ll keep looking lol

[tribal solstice]

im learning as i go tbh

[languid kelp]

Same

[tribal solstice]

im just getting to learn as much as possible

im also regretting of saving ||zote||

till now

[languid kelp]

For me he’s still stuck in ||Deepnest||

Idk how to rescue him but I’ll figure it out

[tribal solstice]

well i do know if you save him he will show up again

another work to beat him up

as might as well knocked him out on the first encounter

so regretting

[languid kelp]

What’s bad about him besides him being a little annoying

[tribal solstice]

he is a bit rude 😂

he was grumpy and all that

[languid kelp]

Alright alright

[languid kelp]

Yeah he’s a bit boastful

[tribal solstice]

i know i will meet him again twice

anyways

this black thingy

in the map

that doesnt look good

XDD

[languid kelp]

||The Black Egg Temple?||

[tribal solstice]

yes that thing

that does not look good

LOL

[stoic cedar]

||overcharming is where u fit on an extra charm over what u can usually fit with the amount of notches u have. if u want to equip a charm that costs n amount of notches and u have <n and >0 amount of notches available, u can still equip that charm, after which u will be overcharmed. but there is a major downside to this in that u will take double damage while being overcharmed, so basically anything that deals one mask of damage will now deal 2. so i would not recommend overcharming in most cases, other than scenarios later on in the game in which u r forced to go hitless (ull see when u get there)||

[tribal solstice]

thank you for explanation :3

[languid kelp]

||No shit it’s where the final boss is kept locked up||

I think

[tribal solstice]

i will update my map tmr i guess im still exploring 😂

[languid kelp]

||By forced to go hitless you mean cases where you get one shot by certain enemies?||

That sounds crazy

[languid kelp]

||Find the Hollow Knight’s memorial in the City of Tears.||

[stoic cedar]

kind of, as i said ull see when u get further into the game

[languid kelp]

Got it

[solid heart]

Or when you ||want to do a hitless challenge ;)||

[tribal solstice]

yea maybe i should i upgraded my nail too

[languid kelp]

Hell nah

Over my dead body

[tribal solstice]

🤯

[languid kelp]

I’m only like 15 hours into this game

[tribal solstice]

8hrs

[languid kelp]

I am NOT doing that anytime soon

[tribal solstice]

im so into this

god help me stay away 😂

very my type

[languid kelp]

This game is fun

[crisp isle]

This game IS fun

[solid heart]

Dw, you'll reach that point
It's my type also, that's why I have ||900 hours||

[ebon copper]

hoooly fking shit, i got ||charmless jumpless nkg|| like 2nd try

[keen stream]

i tried this last night... i just cant do it

[ebon copper]

idk how or why but ive gotten kinda good at it

[keen stream]

i'll jus do this instead ig

[ebon copper]

next ill either have to do without ||dash, or radiant, but keeping dash||

[keen stream]

i think its just as hard

[ebon copper]

ahh, ik this mod

cool stuff

[keen stream]

they both have the same helth bar i think

[ebon copper]

ye, they have shared

same with ||tribe of battle||

another boss i kinda wanna try at one point

but its so cool to find challanging shi like this in vanilla game

[keen stream]

ohh... its ||nkg|| who needs to be damaged

or me game is bugged

[ebon copper]

i think you should be able to deal damage to both

[keen stream]

maybe its the helth bar mod smth

[ebon copper]

it feels so weird to have jump

[keen stream]

what charm should i use here tho

i dont think ||spell|| charm would work well

[ebon copper]

use none for added flex

[keen stream]

im too ass

nahh

im cooked

look at this shit

got him down to 1st puff tho

[ebon copper]

i mean, thats not bad

[keen stream]

im so fckn confused cause of the helth bar now

[ebon copper]

dyrati is making another guide 🔥

[keen stream]

100%

[wary gust]

What’s the second bar for

[keen stream]

idk either

[wary gust]

Staggers

?

[keen stream]

thats why im confused af

[drowsy yarrow]

||Lost Kin Tips

Moves

• Lunge:
  • Watch out for the telegraph of this move; Lost Kin changes stance and makes a sound effect
  • Lost Kin will sometimes "retaliate" to being hit by lunging at you immediately. Be ready to jump
• Goomba Stomp:
  • Wait until you know the trajectory before dashing out of the way. Do not dash too early
• Infection Slam:
  • Jump in the air and aim for a gap
  • If there are infection balloons boxing you in, ddark
• Quad Slash:
  • focus on killing any infection balloons
  • shade soul on the back swing for a double hit

General

• On stagger, don't heal until after you've cleared any nearby or spawning infection balloons
• Only hit balloons when he's on attack cooldown. Otherwise, wait for his next attack.
• You can use shade soul as he's turning around to get double hits
• Shade soul is also great for clearing balloons

The attached video doesn't use spells (for simplicity) and demonstrates when to heal

Tip catalogue #hk-help message
||

[wary gust]

I’m assuming it’s for his stagger

[keen stream]

[keen stream]

nahh

its only for the boss health

[wary gust]

That’s weird lol

[keen stream]

but since that fight uses same helth bar, im confused af why another one suddenly appeared

ig i'll do ||tribe of battle||, i have a higher chance of winning in that fight

so closeee

[wary gust]

I hate that fight

[keen stream]

fckn mental block all of a sudden

[ebon copper]

stagger doesnt work based on hp, its based on hits

[wary gust]

I know, but a bar that shows how long until a stagger would make sense

[signal drift]

How do I beat ||p5||? 😦

[zinc verge]

What boss do you frequently die to?

[ebon copper]

Dyrati made a sheet for it ||#hk-help message||

[zinc verge]

so just use meta charms and practice bosses which you struggle a lot with in ||hall of gods||

[ebon copper]

basically

mot much more you can give without knowing what the exact problem is

like what you also asked

[cobalt quarry]

Guys how I beat ||gruz mother||?

[ebon copper]

#hk-meme

[slim harness]

Guys how do I beat ||gruz mother||?

[proper frost]

||use your nail,walk,jump and heal buttons||

[wary gust]

Guys I’m struggling to beat ||vengefly|| pls help

[proper frost]

||you fulljump and slash while holding down,thats called pogo||

Rest you can figure out

[silver vale]

man i wish there was a ||12th charm slot|| in the game then i cld put|| steady body ||on w my build :(

[ebon copper]

if we had ||12 notches|| wed probably have to use ||fluke||...

[silver vale]

btw i dont rlly understand where to use my ||nail arts||, but everyone says|| nailmasters glory i||s a good charm but idk where it wld work for me, can someone explain?

[silver vale]

oh dang no thank you

haha

[ebon copper]

where you at in the game?

id say ||nailarts|| arent really important at all, but they start to get very useful late game

[silver vale]

working on my first ||p5|| completion

[ebon copper]

in that case, they can be useful in ||false knight/failed champion, sly, nkg/grimm, markoth, obblobles, no eyes, collector||

[drowsy yarrow]

Skip to those bosses Kondy mentioned to see how to use ||narts|| against them: ||https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDy3tPjTdFM||

[silver vale]

imo i can do|| failed champion ||using the inf soul thing easily , i do gotta try ||sly, nkg|| ive gotten down, ||markot||h i also needa try, and ive also got the other 3 down but ill try them out for everything tysm

[silver vale]

ty i appreciate it

[ebon copper]

for ||fk/fc|| its mostly for fastkill

can be a good habit to pick up

[silver vale]

oh okay ill check it out

[winter lynx]

i wanna play HK modded, but don't have a PC. can i mod it on ps4 somehow?

[acoustic sigil]

No

[trim hawk]

Maybe through some hyper crazy hacked console ways but if you have to ask then no

[ebon copper]

i mean, if you have the physical copy given the imput tool, you can access gamefiles on a pc, download the mo files, put them on the cratrage, and you should be good to go

technically

[acoustic sigil]

I don't think it works like that

[ebon copper]

You should be able to access files from a pc if you have a reader device

and if you download a working modpac, launch in theory should automatically make the mods overwrite the existing gamefiles

[winter lynx]

i have digital sadly

i've just been dying to play modded because it looks super fun but ig not

[acoustic sigil]

Well mods are made with pc/laptop in mind so I doubt it would work

[ebon copper]

thinking it over againg you are likely right

ik you can savedit for switch at least

[acoustic sigil]

Yes cause saves are stored in 1 file

[ebon copper]

but that is very different

ye, its existing code

[acoustic sigil]

Actual mods replace the assembly and all that

[serene jackal]

|| i need help with broken vessel he keeps slamming his head into the ground and there are like a wave of orange blobs that go to the top of the screen. I mostly die at that part. 😭 Any tips? ||

[stoic cedar]

||there are various ways of dealing with that attack. one way u can do is when u see that attack, immediately run away from bv, towards the sides of the arena, and dodge the blobs as they come out. u want to pay attention to the area underneath u since the blobs will be coming from below u, then dodge out of the way if u see a blob about to hit u. another way is, when u see that attack, jump up above bv and start pogoing. while maintaining the pogoing, similar to the first strat, u also want to pay attention to the area underneath u since the blobs are going to be coming from underneath, then u want to move left or right out of the way if u see a blob about to hit u. this strat allows u to get a lot of hits on bv during this attack but it might be hard for u to execute if u arent familiar with pogoing.||

[serene jackal]

Thanks I've never tried pogoing on a boss but I'll give it a try

[wary gust]

Chat any tips for beating this boss called ||my girlfriend she beats the shit out of me every single time I come home||

[daring rune]

|| what build should i use? (im trying to kill lost kin) ||

[wary gust]

Maybe try exploring a little more

I didn’t know it was possible to have that little charms, but also have ||qs||

[daring rune]

|| i did everything until lost kin only with soul catcher and grubsong ||

[stoic cedar]

||shaman stone + soul catcher|| is ur best option here

[ebon copper]

how can you not recommend ||quick slash||

my goat

but like really, ||qs|| is mostly better for ppl who are new to the game

[frosty ocean]

Truth ig

[frosty ocean]

I mean uhh u can try getting 3 more ||charm notch?||

[livid shoal]

But, but, ||Shaman Stone||

[stoic cedar]

||with lost kin moving around so frequently and also taking a lot of knockback, the benefits of quick slash (without sbody) arent really as apparent as shaman stone since u cant really effectively follow lost kin to spam nail swings at the rate at which quick slash allows u to, not to mention shaman stone actually benefits a lot from lost kins knockback due to double hits. quick slash is helpful on other bosses but without sbody, i dont think its gonna be that useful against lost kin, at least not nearly as impactful as shaman stone.||

||and anyways its good to learn how to use spells, and its easier to use spells on lost kin than it is on some of the other bosses||

[shut sparrow]

||shaman stone is also just more dps||

[noble portal]

||How do I get past this black beam??||

[wary gust]

Explore around the bottom of the map, there’s an ability

[winter lynx]

Go to ||kingdom's edge|| and ||explore until you find hornet||

||Beat hornet, and go into the "cast-off shell" then back into ancient basin. Explore until you find an area with a door that opens. Fall down and explore from there.||

[noble portal]

Not sure I can go lower than this

[noble portal]

||Where is kingdom's edge||

[livid shoal]

Damn

[wary gust]

You can

[noble portal]

Where 💔

[winter lynx]

Oh my..

||Travel to kings station, and go to the stag station underneath, it should look broken. Go all the way to the right, and kill the vengeflys, then drop into the water, and swim right. Go straight right (with a little bit of bird dodging and platforming) and you're in kingdoms edge.||

[noble portal]

||Yeah I still didn't unlock kings station neither||

[livid shoal]

Holy shit

[wary gust]

||kings station, down the bottom to the right through the flooded stag station||

[noble portal]

This is all I got

[livid shoal]

Whoopsies

[noble portal]

Idk where them maps are

[livid shoal]

The shop in ||Dirtmouth||

[drowsy yarrow]

That area is accessible immediately after ||claw|| I believe.

[wary gust]

I’m amazed

[noble portal]

Who is ||claw||

[wary gust]

Just keep exploring lmao

[winter lynx]

oh my god get out of that area...

Please get more maps and explore more, like ||go into city of tears||
PLEASE.
Search up what you need to, just explore more.
Literally play the game i swear

[noble portal]

🥀 ight

[noble portal]

My bad bruh

[stoic cedar]

bro why r u suggesting someone to search up stuff on first playthrough, that is terrible advice

[winter lynx]

do you even have ||dream nail or c-dash|| yet??

[noble portal]

Idk what those are

[drowsy yarrow]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[winter lynx]

oh my lord

||explore.

all im saying is go to city of tears next, it's in fungal wastes.||

[noble portal]

Ye Ima do that no need to be all dramatic

[winter lynx]

alr good

[drowsy yarrow]

@winter lynx

[ebon copper]

i mean this part is fair

[drowsy yarrow]

Don't tell someone about something they might not have encountered yet unless they specifically ask for it.

He only asked how to get past that beam which is accessible immediately after ||mantis claw|| iirc. So you should ask to see their map first, and can tell them where to go only within what they've already explored.

[winter lynx]

Wasn't he in ||QG|| tho? And he asked how to get past the "black beam" but that could be ||greenpath||

Fair tho, and i'll try not to again

[stoic cedar]

||that was near overgrown mound which is in fog canyon||

[drowsy yarrow]

That particular room is just to the left of ||fog canyon|| and is a sort of teaser for ||qg||. You don't need anything to get there

[ebon copper]

and you can get to ||qg|| without ||shade dash|| anyway

[winter lynx]

oh, well that makes sense

[uncut cave]

Is there something to do here?

[livid shoal]

No

[tranquil oriole]

well

[ebon copper]

a sidequest

at some point, but you will know when you will see a marking there on the map

[uncut cave]

Give me at least a hint, I have 112% and I couldn't figure out what's with that room

[ebon copper]

come back then

[livid shoal]

||Gamble Charm||

[uncut cave]

Oh so I guess I already did that if it's what I think it is

[fathom bison]

||the alternate ending to the grimm troupe||

[ebon copper]

you did ||ritual|| ig

[uncut cave]

Yeah I figured

I never did that ending I should try it

Never tried that charm

[livid shoal]

Gambling charm

[uncut cave]

Thanks

[noble portal]

How do I even get past this

[livid shoal]

Bro

[stoic cedar]

||when u r over one of the purple mushrooms, press down + slash||

[noble portal]

Ohhh

Why didn't I think on that before

Damn it

[junior belfry]

yippie

[hybrid plinth]

The chat in discussion is going too quickly, and this is a question, so I think it fits. What's up with the hate for health bars?

[winter lynx]

there's hate for health bars

[hybrid plinth]

Yeah, people here are very purist about that

I just want to know how much damage I dealt to the boss that attempt

[winter lynx]

I would love to have healthbars, that would be sick like

[hybrid plinth]

Progression feels a lot better when you can see it

Best I can do right now is phase breakpoints and stagger count

[winter lynx]

It has it's pros and cons

Like the lower it is the more anxious you are, but you also know to lock in

[hybrid plinth]

I'm a raider in WoW, I'm used to playing carefully for the last few percent

[ebon copper]

honestly, if you've played enough youll know how much hp the boss has anyway

most of the time i can tell exactly how many hits away i am from next stagger/kill

so i feel like its a simular arguement as the map one, its easier to use a tailored map online with all the details and stuff, but it also has its benefits if you just steadily pick up on it little by little

[drowsy yarrow]

Yeah, there's a bit of fun in not knowing exactly, and learning to get a feeling for it. Helps with immersion as well.

Like instead of telling you ||nail damage after upgrading, they tell you to slash at enemies to feel the change.||

[ebon copper]

its funny when i watch my friend play and i tell him hell stagger boss in 3 so he shouldnt bother with dodging the next attack

[ruby socket]

i am legit stuck

[zinc verge]

reach the end

[ruby socket]

i cannot find the end 😭

[zinc verge]

send screenshot of where you are

[ruby socket]

ight

[ebon copper]

i feel like "finding" the end should be the problem you have in ||pop||

[ruby socket]

@zinc verge

[ebon copper]

up

[zinc verge]

literally just go to the left and up

[ruby socket]

yeah but i flipped a level and ive just looped around

lever*

[drowsy yarrow]

Here's some ||pop|| footage I recorded a few days ago: ||#hk-help message||

[ebon copper]

after the lever you go to the right

not down

[ruby socket]

ohh ok

[ebon copper]

im surprising myeslf, didnt know i had a good mental image of ||pop||

the more you know

[crisp isle]

||Pop|| is short

[junior belfry]

lmao

when u spend so much time in 1 place ure bound to memorize it

my new rarest achievement

[golden cairn]

how do you dodge || nkg's flame attack when he goes up ||

[junior belfry]

||the pufferfish attack?||

||or the one with the flame pillars||

[stoic cedar]

||the flames always fall down in a set pattern when he goes up. the simplest way is to just stand right next to where he went up||

[golden cairn]

|| the one where he dashes, go up and releases like 4 flames at once ||

[junior belfry]

ohhh the ||dash attack?||

[flat sundial]

Yea

[mental pagoda]

Just right now

[stoic cedar]

well ||nkg has two dash attacks, to be specific it is the uppercut one||

[junior belfry]

W

[golden cairn]

the thing im struggling with ||nkg is two things, differintiating the attacks of where he releases red birds and the dash attack, and trying to predict where the flames are gonna land in the dash attack ||

[junior belfry]

||well to dodge the uppercut attack u js stay on the ground, walk/dash the direction opposite of him, then after his dash ends, u can hit him once before he does the uppercut||

[golden cairn]

||yeah i can dodge his dash part, i cant dodge his flame part||

[junior belfry]

||also after he does the uppercut, dash to where he was BEFORE uppercutting, so basically u gonna do a dash opposite of him when he does the dash, hit once, dash back||

[golden cairn]

ok

[stoic cedar]

||just stand right next to where he went up, the flames come down in a set pattern centered at where he went up. the flame pattern just so happens that there is a safe spot right next to where he went up||

[junior belfry]

||like for example hes to ur left, he dashed to the right, u dodge to the right, he stops for a bit before uppercutting, u hit him once when hes stopped, he uppercuts, u dodge left||

[junior belfry]

ye

u explained it better than i did

😭

[golden cairn]

alr got it

thanks

[solemn ibex]

I DID IT OH MY GAH I'M SO HAPPY RN

I was literally 1 hp

[stoic cedar]

||also to differentiate between the fire bats attack and the uppercut, nkg spawns closer to u when he is going for the uppercut compared to fire bats, also the animation is different for the two attacks. but ultimately it comes down to practice to be able to notice the patterns in the fight and react accordingly||

[tame trout]

How to beat ||the 2nd trail in colo||?

[flat sundial]

Bad cuality video

[tame trout]

The ||giant hoppers|| dmg me too much

Is there a tech to play against them, ||freaking aspids|| too

[junior belfry]

||is p1 10:12 with charm binding a good time||

[junior belfry]

play more passively

against them

[tame trout]

How fr

[flat sundial]

Yes

[junior belfry]

dont rush into them

[tame trout]

I go beneath they crush me i go up they jump to me

And they don't have a fixed jump distance i don't know how to predict them yet

[junior belfry]

u dont predict them

just play more passively

[tame trout]

What about ||charms|| is there any suggestions

[junior belfry]

be patient against them

[tame trout]

Alr I'll try

[ruby shuttle]

||dash under them, hit them, dash under again, hit them, repeat||

[tame trout]

I guess i only need one from ||grim|| and ||fog||

[tame trout]

I'll try thanks

[junior belfry]

||for colo2 i either use longnail, fragile/unbreakable strength, quick slash, shaman stone||

[tame trout]

That's what i have

[signal drift]

||Maybe get a better nail, notches or spells but you can leave it for later since it only gives pale ore||

[tame trout]

||Fragile will keep breaking tho||

[junior belfry]

||then do the troupe event||

||u can turn the fragile into an unbreakable||

[flat sundial]

||Against the giant hoppers you just have to dash towards the hopper's position when it jumps towards you and hit it once and repeat until it dies.||

[tame trout]

Don't i need that ||ore|| to get a perfect nail?

[signal drift]

It does cost a lot though

[tame trout]

15k tho😭

[tame trout]

I'll try to time it thanks

I do have 3

The spiral one

[junior belfry]

||i farmed colo2 to get the money soooo||

[ruby shuttle]

||coilded||

[junior belfry]

||or just get better idk man i never had a problem with colo2||

[tame trout]

Let me see

[signal drift]

What's your charm build?

[tame trout]

[tame trout]

Im freestyling tbh

[signal drift]

🗿

[tame trout]

But that's it for now

[tame trout]

Yes and i have one more ||ore||

[signal drift]

Y||ou are missing a notch also take away agony and use nailmasters or smt if u use narts (which u should)||

[tame trout]

Where to get the 3rd one?

[flat sundial]

Wait me a second

[junior belfry]

use ||quick slash, fragile strength (shaman stone if ure afraid of it breaking), longnail, steady body||

[tame trout]

Yes im missing the one in ||fog||

||And narts distract me tbh||

[junior belfry]

||i dont feel like narts r practical||

theyre very situational

[tame trout]

||Why long nail when i have the one from mantis lords||

[tranquil oriole]

they are good, just difficult to use well lots of the time

[tame trout]

Oh man i need to find 31..

[junior belfry]

||use mark of pride if u dont need steady body||

[tame trout]

Ig im missing 4 or something last time i checked

[tame trout]

Alr I'll try that

Ye

[junior belfry]

actualkly u need to find all

im pretty sure

cuz he only gave me it when i got all of them and went back to him

[tame trout]

All is 31

[junior belfry]

46

wait

[signal drift]

You could hold ||the narts button down while you wait|| for enemy's to spawn

[junior belfry]

am i crzy

[tame trout]

No it is 31😭

[tame trout]

Ye i do that

[junior belfry]

theres 46

[flat sundial]

31

[tame trout]

Oh dam i didn't know that

[junior belfry]

also

[tame trout]

Ye

[tame trout]

Thanks

[junior belfry]

idk if its a bug that happened to me but i needed to get all for him to give me the ||ore||

:D

[tame trout]

Ig it's a bug for u then

[tame trout]

Im on 30 hours rn🙏🏼

[junior belfry]

how much %

wait

[tame trout]

Idk how to see that

[junior belfry]

did u beat the game yet

pluh

[tame trout]

No

Im taking my time

[junior belfry]

ok ure REALLY taking ur time

lmao

[tame trout]

Reaaaaaaaly taking my time

[tranquil oriole]

better than rushing it

[tame trout]

Yeye i know it's intended

[junior belfry]

i beat my first run when i was like at 60% ish

[tame trout]

I wanna enjoy this run the next I'll do it for lore then I'll speedrun maybe

[junior belfry]

then i got 112% in like around 50 hours total in the same save

[tame trout]

I'll beat this at 112%

[flat sundial]

How Hard this is?

[tranquil oriole]

hollow knight is a short game

[junior belfry]

good

[flat sundial]

Short 💀

[tranquil oriole]

which one?

[tame trout]

Probably 2

[tranquil oriole]

if you follow a route it’s really doable

[flat sundial]

He says short

[tranquil oriole]

mhm

[tame trout]

208h..

[tranquil oriole]

it’s dense, like you can spend tons of time, but you can breeze through the game as well

[tame trout]

Why don't i have the completion %

[tame trout]

Some ppl finished it in 33min

[tranquil oriole]

mhm

[tame trout]

It was scary to watch

Ig it was fireb0rn

[flat sundial]

||You need the World sense you get it in the temple of the Black egg||

[tranquil oriole]

zvy’s new wr from yesterday or the day before is a 30:49 or something

[tame trout]

Ah okay ty

[tame trout]

They're just scary ppl🙏🏼

[tranquil oriole]

nah zvy is nice

just very talented

very dedicated

[tame trout]

Bullet hands

[tame trout]

Btw does ur game crash sometimes?

[flat sundial]

No

[tame trout]

Or is it just my phone

Ah okay

[flat sundial]

I think its your phone

[tame trout]

Ye it crashes when it heats

[tame trout]

How do u have 15k

[flat sundial]

What a rare bug

Earning it

[tame trout]

Ye how

||colo||?

Or is there a place

[flat sundial]

||Farm the second colo||

[tranquil oriole]

||relics, colo2, and farming hoppers in edge|| are all good

[tame trout]

The one I can't beat ye😔

[flat sundial]

The first one only gives you 1000g

[tame trout]

I do ||hoppers||

Ig imma go get ||unbreakable strength||

[flat sundial]

The third its to long

[tranquil oriole]

||hoppers|| are theoretically best iirc

[tame trout]

Ye i heard so

[flat sundial]

The second one its perfect

[tame trout]

I heard so too

Now i gotta find the ||grimm|| dlc or wtv

Where is it on map?

Ik it's somewhere behind a breakable wall

[tranquil oriole]

||howling cliffs||

[tame trout]

Yeye that place

[flat sundial]

Yea

[tranquil oriole]

it’s behind two

[tame trout]

But where is the wall

[tame trout]

I watched a vid about it long ago

[tranquil oriole]

the bigger room about halfway down

[tame trout]

But i forgot

[tame trout]

Alright thanks

[stuck heron]

Holy shit guys I'm about to beat ||p3|| pray I don't mess up ||nailsage boss fight||

[tranquil oriole]

gl

[hybrid plinth]

I'm making no progress on ||Markoth||, this fight is just pure luck, how are people clearing phase 2 with nothing but ||casts||?

[hybrid plinth]

Godspeed, that's a tough one

[tranquil oriole]

||double hits||

||shade soul double hits or trapping him against the ceiling with shriek both shred||

you kinda have to outlast him tho until you get good opportunities

[hybrid plinth]

Even when I do land a ||double||, it doesn't make enough of a dent to finish him

[tranquil oriole]

you need several

[stuck heron]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO

[hybrid plinth]

How do you even get that much ||soul||?

[tranquil oriole]

4 ir 5 on ||radiant|| iirc

[stuck heron]

I beat him

[hybrid plinth]

YES

[tranquil oriole]

don’t use any phase 1

and pray

[hybrid plinth]

it just feels like luck whether he kills me or not

[tribal solstice]

new game? is it the same thing??

[hybrid plinth]

the way he moves with no clear purpose, and the completely random placement of ||nails||

[stuck heron]

Guys help

[tribal solstice]

omg lordy

[tranquil oriole]

||crystal peaks above crystal guardian 1 and greenpath to the right under the bottommost bench||

[tame trout]

What's this

[stuck heron]

Thanks

[tranquil oriole]

it’s just practice icl

[tranquil oriole]

endgame stuff

[stuck heron]

||P4||

[hybrid plinth]

One's in ||crystal peak||, the other's in ||greenpath||

[tame trout]

Ah

[tame trout]

Ahaa

Okay thanks

[hushed egret]

Holy ||grubberfly elegy|| is the best charm dude holy

[stoic cedar]

||the two main things that u should pay attention to in this fight is markoths movement and the nail spawns. markoths movement is quite random but u just need to learn to play around it. spacing and positioning is key in this fight, u dont want to stand too close to markoth nor be in his trajectory, and u dont want to be airborne for too long since u might get unlucky and fall straight down into a nail. u also need to know when to switch sides of the arena, u usually want to do this when markoth starts to get too close to u and u r running out of room on the side of the arena u r on. u should only switch sides if markoth is clearly on one side of the arena, specifically u do not want to switch sides when markoth is in the middle since u can get screwed over by markoths random movement as u r committing to switching sides. i usually like to switch back and forth between the lower platforms (and occasionally go to the higher platforms for some cheeky hits) since they have more ground to stand on but its definitely not the only way to go about the fight||

[tranquil oriole]

countering his random movement with ||narts|| is good

since they go through his ||shield|| and push him back

[ebon copper]

you can hit him in ceiling with ||elegy|| btw

[hushed egret]

Yes exactly thats why its soo great

[hushed egret]

But if you slash close enough to the nemey you can damage him with the normal nail damage and the ||grubberfly elegy|| damage

Also gain soul from doing it

[ebon copper]

this is consistent ||nosk|| btw without ||elegy||, id recommend not getting too used to ||elegy||

[tranquil oriole]

he was using it ironically iirc

i could be wrong ofc but

[ebon copper]

overall ||elegy|| should really be used, its mostly a gimmick

[tranquil oriole]

i’m thought so

[ebon copper]

ahh, that... makes sense

[stoic cedar]

||that isnt how it works, most of the time if u hit an enemy with a normal nail swing u wont get the elegy damage. u need to be pretty precise in ur attack timing and movement to be able to land both hits||

[hushed egret]

It help me beat 35 bosses in ||Parthenon 5|| u timately making me reach ||absrad||

[hushed egret]

@stoic cedar it works on bigger target

[ebon copper]

the damage you get from it just isnt optimal

so no reason to use it

[tranquil oriole]

:(

[ebon copper]

no it isnt

tf

im absolutely incapable of understanding irony arent i

[tranquil oriole]

yeah

it’s ok

[ebon copper]

i took a painkiller, and now ive become the convo killer

classic

[tranquil oriole]

not convo killer lmao

[stoic cedar]

nope, ||the elegy damage wont apply if the normal nail damage occurs first. really the only way to get both hits with the same nail swing is to hit the enemy in such a way that u r out of range of a normal nail swing but hit with elegy, then move into the enemy such that the nail's lingering hitbox hits the enemy. then ull get both hits at once. as u can imagine that requires pretty precise movement and attack timing||

[ebon copper]

it had to rhyme

[charred wraith]

Rhyming killer with killer. Classic

[ebon copper]

🔥

[teal oracle]

weird seeing hk help as the only active channel

[tranquil oriole]

right?

[charred wraith]

Huh. Neat...

[charred wraith]

I guess it works on a more vertical target, sure

[ebon copper]

hk discussion has too many women, scary place

[charred wraith]

I think ||radiance is big enough for that kind of tech. Though it's funny how radiance is smaller than flukemarm||

[tranquil oriole]

yeah but ||quickslash||

[ebon copper]

i mean, the ||elegy|| hits are doable on all enemies, its just much easier on bigger hitboxes

[charred wraith]

Ohp. It still deleted it...

[tranquil oriole]

yall heard about the ||fotf elegy synergy?||

[ebon copper]

teach us master

[subtle prism]

any suggestions for the enraged gurdian

[charred wraith]

Show us show us

[ebon copper]

move

away from the lasers

[subtle prism]

HUH RLLY NEVER WOULDVE GUESSED THAT

[charred wraith]

Slash slash ||oh no, he's firing! Jump and double jump. Slash slash||

[tranquil oriole]

surely ||elegy works on 1 mask if you have fury equipped||

[charred wraith]

Stall in the air with ||double jump||

[charred wraith]

FRICK I FELL FOR THAT

[ebon copper]

shoulve just been:
Slash slash|| Slash slash Slash slash Slash slash||

[tranquil oriole]

yeah no no red effects and everything

for sure

[charred wraith]

Well i mean, i wouldn't wanna instill bad habits of just tanking damage

[subtle prism]

os i forgot abt that

[charred wraith]

20s? That sht got basketball blocked

[subtle prism]

ikr

[ebon copper]

i wonder how hard would it be to full ||pogo|| that fight

like dont touch the gound or walls

[tranquil oriole]

hard

[charred wraith]

Would be fun. You can move just to his side for the pogos to hit

[subtle prism]

true

[ebon copper]

kinda makes me wanna try

[tranquil oriole]

there’s the fun kind of hard and then there’s the kind of hard where you try to make ||cg2 engaging||

[ebon copper]

surely must be easier than no abilities ||nkg|| right?

[tranquil oriole]

||inkg|| isn’t so bad

just long

[stoic cedar]

||a summon build with like weaversong + grubsong could work for that maybe||

[ebon copper]

ahh, jump is an ability

forgot to mention

enjoy

[tranquil oriole]

oh

spoiler tag jump iirc

[ebon copper]

you too

you 1st in fact

[charred wraith]

Technically, ||charms aren't abilities. They're equipmemt||

[tranquil oriole]

they’re items

[charred wraith]

So... maybe there's smth to work there if we can't use ||jump||

[ebon copper]

rn ive done with only ||dash|| charmless

no jump

[tranquil oriole]

||nkg||?

[ebon copper]

ye

[tranquil oriole]

that’s fun

[ebon copper]

next lvl has to be no ||dash||

but the difference is kinda huge

[charred wraith]

Heck you mean onky ||dash charmless? Like, no nail and no sharpshadow?||

[ebon copper]

no i mean, no charms, and no ||dash||

charms are for the weak anyway

[charred wraith]

Aaah

[ebon copper]

its much more doable than it sounds

in fact with ideal rng, its still ||radiantable||

[solid heart]

I did ||no dash no cash no walking|| and left him at 44hp 2 years ago

[charred wraith]

Well, yeah. ||Charms only make things faster. Nkg doesn't have new attacks and stuff anyway, it's all the same for all phases||

[ebon copper]

i mean thats very different style

[solid heart]

No walking

[ebon copper]

||dashmaster and sharpshadow|| make the fight much easier without jumping

and ||summons|| are actually insanely strong too

shii, even ||defenders crest|| is decent dps

[ebon copper]

its hard to visualise ngl

you need a lot of ||ddarks|| im guessing

[solid heart]

How often are you that close to him lol

[ebon copper]

like for every attack

[solid heart]

||https://youtu.be/TMxmTnsJ77k||
Although I had to start with a full soul meter because otherwise it'd be pure rng bullshit

[ebon copper]

i mean ||#hk-help message||

[charred wraith]

That's a fun thumbnail

[ebon copper]

you just really dont do that much dmg if you cant hit him in half his attacks

[solid heart]

Indeed lol

[ebon copper]

i can see that no sideways movement is also agonisingly slow

[solid heart]

Absolutely

[ebon copper]

buuut, the dodging seems managable, other than the pillars

[solid heart]

That's why I eased the pain on myself allowing ||full soul meter and kingsoul||

[signal drift]

Well, there goes my ||p5|| run...

[ebon copper]

try what my vid does

its pure agony

[solid heart]

Yeah, although uppercut is kinda inconsistent. Since then I learned the parry, so that would surely help

[ebon copper]

i wanna see you suffer

[solid heart]

||charmless dashless?||

[ebon copper]

parry is good, but if he lands on you you need the perfect parry

[solid heart]

I'll add ||AB on top, how does that sound?||

[ebon copper]

ye

[ebon copper]

sure

no wait

not charmless ||dashless||

the main point is no jumping

thats the hard part

[solid heart]

Ah, mb

[ebon copper]

[solid heart]

That's what I meant lol

||NKG no jumping AB||

[hushed egret]

Here to prove my point

[solid heart]

What is this?

[ebon copper]

ya sure, thats ||3 bindings|| worse than mine

[solid heart]

Yeah, that's the problem, still, I'm sure it'd be better

Otherwise it's an interesting challenge

[ebon copper]

ye for sure

[solid heart]

Just excruciatingly long

[ebon copper]

mines only around 5 mins

urs is like 6

-7

[tranquil oriole]

no jump ||pv|| is cool too, i love no jump

[ebon copper]

ill prob do that later, sounds more managable than ||nkg||

since no bs such as bats or pufferfish

[tranquil oriole]

||bats is fine lowkey, but yeah pufferfish||

[ebon copper]

my biggest problem with bats is that sometimes he does not tp when you go close

but its mostly fine

[solid heart]

||pufferfish by dashing is so jank||

[outer hare]

||what are pantheons? im trying to 100% the game and im at 107% currently and i was told i need to do pantheons, i have no idea what they are||

[zinc verge]

first get that last 1%

[storm lichen]

||radiance|| is not a %

[outer hare]

||then im confused on where to get the last percent||

[stoic cedar]

||107% makes perfect sense if they never been to godhome before, godtuner + p1-4 -> 5%||

[zinc verge]

explore ||royal waterways||

[outer hare]

||okay, thank you||

[storm lichen]

go all the way left in ||waterways||

[outer hare]

||thanks||

[hybrid plinth]

Anyone know where the nearest bench to ||white defender|| is?

I want to switch up my charm build, but I'd need to walk

[thin plover]

What

[flat sundial]

Is the one that apears in the imagen of stellar

[ebon copper]

wait wut?

does the unlock give %?

[ebon copper]

||kings station|| is prob the most easy

[neat karma]

||godtuner does||

[solid heart]

Yep, check the completition page in the wiki

[ebon copper]

didnt know that, cool

so the|| pantheons ||are even more worth for completion than i imagined

most definitely some of the most easy % to get if you have a somewhat completed file, and are going for ||steel heart||

[solid heart]

Ehm 1 more

But yeah

[ebon copper]

i mean the 4s already more than worth

+1 just makes it some of the most efficent

[solid heart]

The only ||% I'd wholeheartedly avoid in steel soul is colo3, maybe kingsoul too. Anything else is either not that hard, or in a dream||

[ebon copper]

||p1-4|| is like 30something mins

[solid heart]

||Colo 2 as well perhaps, but that's a nail upgrade also||

[ebon copper]

true

[ebon copper]

nahh, thats not that difficult, it should be fine for most

id say ||flower quest|| is another offender tho

[solid heart]

True

But it's a hitless challenge, so it's not like you risk dying with ||Dreamgate lol||

Same would go to ||WP tho||

[ebon copper]

true

[ebon copper]

||wp|| has 2 hard sections

the rest is really not that bad

idek why those 2 sections are in ||wp||, like they are straight up worse than ||pop||

[solid heart]

And both are easy to completely disregard with an ||intended shortcut and a super easy skip||

||Skips cut WP distance in like half||

And most are not even hard

It's crazy

[ebon copper]

but thats cheezy

[solid heart]

It's not, skips are fun

[ebon copper]

nahh, only the ones that skip basically nothing

not worth it at all = cool skip

[solid heart]

And it's TC's fault for putting a lamp in a ledge ||just high enough to not reach or leaving a giant gap between a saw and a wall||