hk-help

[shut sparrow]

||it just means you died. Go back to the spot you died in ||

[keen stream]

||thk|| is bad

[timid horizon]

yes i understand but is it bad if i leave it broken

[keen stream]

or just the knight

[ebon copper]

it restricts your max soul to 2/3

[shut sparrow]

You will only be able to fill up your ||soul meter 67%||

[timid horizon]

ok

nothing else?

[ebon copper]

the ||shade|| has your geo

[timid horizon]

oh trve

[keen stream]

you go broke if you die again without taking it back

[ebon copper]

good thing is that geo in the beginning of the game may feel important, but it mostly isnt

[keen stream]

||climb|| is annoying af

[shut sparrow]

it's the peak of peak

beat part

[keen stream]

its annoying

[shut sparrow]

probably doing it wrong then

[timid horizon]

hollow john?

[shut sparrow]

yes

[keen stream]

im jumping when telegraph smth shows

[shut sparrow]

then you're using ||wings|| too late

you can send a video of an attempt if you want

[keen stream]

i dont have nitro

[timid horizon]

is it able to walk on these insect things which are walking in montain dew with long legs

[shut sparrow]

why would you need nitro ?

[timid horizon]

can i jump on top of it to go across the place

[keen stream]

too big

i mean the file size

[shut sparrow]

compress it. And send just the ||climb||

[keen stream]

i'll try

[timid horizon]

what are these thing

the spike monster with orange eyes

[shut sparrow]

try hitting them from above

[timid horizon]

it dosnt work it has metal super armour or something

[shut sparrow]

you aren't supposed to kill it

[keen stream]

it seems that i can now do 1st phase hitless almost every time

[timid horizon]

ok

[keen stream]

use ||fireball||

[hoary anvil]

(most of the time)

[keen stream]

im still having a problem in her ||platform|| phase

[shut sparrow]

what's the problem

[keen stream]

my brain cant comprehend the surroundings

[timid horizon]

ohh i see how it is i am suppose to use this metal guy to get to the other side by hitting mid air

[keen stream]

i can do it if i can tank a hit or two, but i dont want that

[shut sparrow]

if you want direct advice again you can try sending a video. Make it like 30fps 480p and no audio or something

[shut sparrow]

make sure to not chase her around

[timid horizon]

i have fingered it out

[keen stream]

i'll record when ||platform phase|| starts

wtf

[shut sparrow]

wtf indeed

[timid horizon]

BRO IF I DIE AND DIE AGAIN BEFORE KILLING THE BLACK GUY DO I LOSE ALL MY GEOS

[keen stream]

i lost my moves suddenly

i did her 1st phase hitless earlier like 3 times, now i cant even survive it

[keen stream]

yeh

[timid horizon]

FUCKKK I GOT LIKE 800 MONEY ITS ALL GONE SOB EMOJI SOB EMOJI

is there a hollow bank to deposit the hollow money

[keen stream]

yeh, but i think you can access it as of now

also wtf, "sob emoji"

[timid horizon]

ts buns

[timid horizon]

is it in the dirt wood place

dirt path or somethign

[keen stream]

no

[timid horizon]

ok

[keen stream]

also use spoiler tags

[timid horizon]

ok

[crisp isle]

Don't trust the bank🙏

[timid horizon]

does hollow john get a super jump ability at some point because this jump is clearly to high

[keen stream]

its ass

its also in ||attuned|| cause my brain refused to lock in

this

@shut sparrow

[shut sparrow]

@shut sparrow

[proper frost]

@shut sparrow

[timid horizon]

@shut sparrow

[keen stream]

ass ||climb|| performance

do i just wait in one spot?

[timid horizon]

where do i find the mapper guy again

[crisp isle]

He's everywhere my g

[timid horizon]

yes but he is not there in the spot he was before

[crisp isle]

He left a letter

Read it

[timid horizon]

is he in jellyfish land?

[crisp isle]

I think so

Wait yeah ofc he is

[shut sparrow]

||right at the beginning at your first hit you should ddark instead of trying to avoid everything with multiple dashes.
Generally just use ddark whenever she is on the same platform as you are and about to attack. For that you can look at her telegraphs being her wings rising (orb attack) or her face lighting up (sword or beam burst). Then just use the ddark iframes to reposition yourself according to the attack and dodge it like that and continue hitting.
For the climb really make sure you always keep the rhythm of jumping when the beam forms and using wings right before it strikes. You don't need to be super fast. Take it slow and be more accurate instead||

[timid horizon]

GUYS I FOUND THE|| BANK!! ||

shet i do not enough dollar monie

[keen stream]

spoiler tag @timid horizon

[crisp isle]

DO NOT TRUST IT

[timid horizon]

is she a fraud?

[crisp isle]

It is corrupt

[keen stream]

tag the ||bank||

[crisp isle]

Old lady cannot be trusted

[timid horizon]

but i really want to keep the geos safe

[shut sparrow]

||you can give her your money||

[crisp isle]

There's actually a not corrupt bank

[bright sorrel]

[timid horizon]

duckler is saying it is a corrup guy

[shut sparrow]

you can give them your money to keep it safe

[shut sparrow]

is there something wrong with it?

[keen stream]

so i should keep my souls for the ||ddark||?

[bright sorrel]

notice how the cat has GLASSES

[timid horizon]

ok how can i get 100 dollar money fast

[crisp isle]

She is corrupt

[timid horizon]

in hoolow knight

[crisp isle]

Explore

[timid horizon]

fuck this i should google it

GASP YOUR RIGHT

im not trusting it ever

[shut sparrow]

you usually have enough soul and enough time to get more if you don't. So while it's not bad always having a bit extra soul for such situations it's also nothing you should specifically aim for

[shut sparrow]

[crisp isle]

Where is you In the game

[shut sparrow]

ponder I got a 47 ||absrad||

[timid horizon]

funger waste

[bright sorrel]

[shut sparrow]

then it's time to start!!

[timid horizon]

YO I FOUND JOHN MAPPER

not enough joe..

[olive mirage]

dont google stuff. ask here always. its too easy to get sucked into a wiki

at your point in the game, exploring is one of the best ways to get money cause there are all the|| geo rocks||

[timid horizon]

sadly i brok so many of it

[olive mirage]

huh?

go to new places then

[keen stream]

i almost lost my ||steel soul|| run to ||mawlek||

[timid horizon]

why do there be homing missiles

[olive mirage]

git gud

[keen stream]

fuck ||steel soul||

wtf just happened

[timid horizon]

what is paying to see somethign "nice"?

[olive mirage]

You get to see something nice

(Very nice if you are good at the game)

[olive mirage]

Known glitch. Very funny

[timid horizon]

what is it pleae spoil me

[olive mirage]

Why?

[timid horizon]

i want to know what it is

[olive mirage]

Your playing the game right now. You are gonna get pay the money sometime in the game if you want to see everything. It’s your choice

[timid horizon]

sighhh

boi why do these guys have voice actors all they do is "hmmm" humm ahhh uhhh

[olive mirage]

One could say “bruh”

[idle ingot]

what's the question?

[proper frost]

Its peak sound effects what do you mean

[timid horizon]

pay geos to see somethign nice

[olive mirage]

Hey it’s good voice acting. I think it would be kinda weird if they spoke English

[idle ingot]

who's asking for the geos

[timid horizon]

some wierd insect

[idle ingot]

if you pay him he'll allow you to buy his charms

[timid horizon]

hmm ok

[keen stream]

nahh

[keen stream]

"shaw" is peak

and "bapanada"

[timid horizon]

no i think is is "shaun"

[keen stream]

its shaw

[timid horizon]

no its not

[olive mirage]

Team cherry says it’s Shaw

[timid horizon]

how do i get grapple hook like || hornet|| has

[idle ingot]

by downloading assassin's creed

[bleak gale]

my hands hurt

[bleak gale]

give up

or wait for silksong to come out

[timid horizon]

pls i need it to go across a birdge which lead to pilgrim way ends here ||hallows nest heart||

[bleak gale]

you need something else for that

[timid horizon]

||is it a mants claw||

[bleak gale]

yes

you keep avoiding the auto spoiler bot by mispelling stuff what the hell

[timid horizon]

nice i just got it

[bleak gale]

can you spoiler this

[acoustic sigil]

That doesn't mean you don't have to spoiler tag it

[timid horizon]

yes?

[bleak gale]

cool

[timid horizon]

ohh now a lot of the previous areas make sense

[keen stream]

im doin ||steel soul||, where should i go next?

have this atm

idk if i should do the ||city|| or ||deepnest||

[bleak gale]

||deepnest is a lot more risky||

||get at least a nail upgrade from city if you really wanna go to deepnest||

[livid shoal]

I'd also buy as much shit as I could

-# ||City you can get out of in like 15 minutes tbh...||

[ancient berry]

Wish you the best luck

[livid shoal]

I should do a ||Steel Soul|| run

[keen stream]

im kinda slow ngl

[keen stream]

tis at 1 hr mark

[ancient berry]

Where do I find the ||lover key?||

[livid shoal]

I could do that in 59 minutes and 59 seconds

[keen stream]

||qg||

[ancient berry]

Ty

[dense raven]

anything i should know before attempting || pantheon 4 || for upwards of 4 hours

[ancient berry]

Take breaks

Any tips for ||the collector||?

[dense raven]

he is a more nail focused boss, id recommend just getting loads of hits in and try to focus on dodging. if you dont already have || nail upgrades || defo get some more of those, one shotting the || enemies in jars that he drops || is very useful

[ancient berry]

What’s charms do you think I should use?

[dense raven]

do you have || strength? ||

also what nail do u have

[ancient berry]

Yes

[dense raven]

use that

[ancient berry]

The one before max

[dense raven]

|| coiled? ||

[ancient berry]

Yes

[dense raven]

alright u should be good for upgrades tbh, what u could do is just do a run without using || spells || and without hitting him at all, just to learn the dodging patterns

ofc u still gotta hit the || enemies in jars || but ykwim

just learn how to dodge him, then do the same thing but just actually slash him

[ancient berry]

Wait I don’t have to hit him?

[dense raven]

no u do its just for practice yk

just learn how to dodge him

[ancient berry]

Ohhhhh ok

[dense raven]

just focus on dodging

id say so

i used || quick slash || during my fight

[ancient berry]

Oh ok

[dense raven]

its very good paired with || strength ||

[ancient berry]

Rn I’m using ||strength quick slash and mark of pride||

[empty cliff]

|| How do I get 600 essence more (2400 essence total) ||

[dense raven]

yeah || mark of pride would probs be good with it too ||

[dense raven]

|| u have 1800? ||

[ancient berry]

I have 1 extra ||charm notch|| what should I use it for?

[dense raven]

hmm, not sure, do you have || sprintmaster || mayube?

[empty cliff]

ye

[ancient berry]

Yeah

[empty cliff]

I want the achievement

and the %

[dense raven]

|| what warrior dreams have you done ||

[dense raven]

ight could try that out, but idrk tbh

[ancient berry]

Ty

[spice minnow]

twin

[dense raven]

ofc

[empty cliff]

is there some way to check that

you mean the ones with a grave?

[dense raven]

uhh, not really, do you not remember?

[dense raven]

yes

the ones you || dream nail adn then fight for essence ||

[empty cliff]

I think all?

[dense raven]

right

so then you havent done some of the other || dream bosses ||

that you || dnail after you kill the normal fight ||

such as || soul master = soul tyrant, broken vessel = lost kin ||

do you know which ones of those you've done

[ancient berry]

It worked :>

[dense raven]

you might be missing || failed champion, lost kin, soul tyrant, white defender, maybe something else i cant remember ||

[dense raven]

niceee

enjoy the || grub map lol ||

[ancient berry]

Yeah I would never find them without it

[dense raven]

fr

i got the || grub map and got another 18 grubs within like an hour ||

[ancient berry]

Nice

[empty cliff]

I was already wondering about them cuz I didn't get the achievements

but in || Godhome || I fought them

do I have to go to the respective spot where I fought the normal version?

[dense raven]

did you fight the || dream versions..? or the normal versions? ||

[dense raven]

yes

[empty cliff]

|| dream ||

[dense raven]

eg. || at soul master's body, you can dream nail him and fight soul tyrant, same for the rest ||

[empty cliff]

but I'll do that now

[dense raven]

ight gl

btw

[empty cliff]

thx

lot's of travelling

yippie

[dense raven]

first one you should do is || lost kin, he gioves like 400 essesne and is relatively easy ||

after that you can just do any of them cus i think all of them give || 200+ essesnce ||

[ancient berry]

||soul tyrant gives 300 I think|| but that’s the only one I know

[dense raven]

i didnt even end up doing || soul tyrant im pretty sure, i think i did white defender instead ||

i also diudnt do || failed champ ||

[empty cliff]

I want the achievement anyway

[dense raven]

for || ascending the seer? ||

yeah i needa do that too for another %

tryna get 112% and the only of the two % i need is || pantheon 4, and ascending seer ||

[ancient berry]

How do I check my percentage?

[dense raven]

if you

oops

if you've been inside the || black egg temple, interacting with a little tablet lets you see it in your inventory ||

[ancient berry]

Oh ok

There nothing to interact with

[dense raven]

send a screenshot?

make sure you mark it with a spoiler thingy tho

you are inside the || black egg temple, next to the bench right..? ||

[ancient berry]

Huh there’s 2?

[dense raven]

what?

can you send a screenshot im confused

[ancient berry]

It’s this place right?

[dense raven]

wait its loading

yes

go inside

wait you have all 3 || dreamers right? ||

[ancient berry]

No im missing one

[dense raven]

oh

well then you cant..

lmao

mb

[ancient berry]

Oh ok

[dense raven]

bascially when you get the third one and it opens up, there is a entrance, and inside there is the || tablet, next to a bench ||

[ancient berry]

Oh ok

[dense raven]

hmm

[ancient berry]

What ||charms|| should I use for ||grimm||

[dense raven]

i mean obviously you need || grimmchild on, but i'd recommend unbreakable strength, and maybe mark of pride?? im not too sure but you dont usually get many windows to use spells, so go for a nail build in my opinion ||

[ancient berry]

What should I do with 2 extra ||notches||?

[dense raven]

maybe || grubsong and sprintmaster? cus u can kinda get a heal off when he does his spikes attack, so grubsong might be good for that.. but tbh i have no idea ||

i think just do whatever u think

[ancient berry]

Ok

[dense raven]

btw can u send a screenie of ur ||charm inventory||

[dense raven]

oh damn u got almost all of them

[ancient berry]

Yeah I got bored

[dense raven]

|| sharp shadow could be good, just for the get out of jail free card kinda thing, but im not sure once again lol ||

tbh i wouldnt know

i only recently beat || grimm || and it was mostly just me smashing my head into a brick wall until it broke kinda thing

it worked eventually

[ancient berry]

Oh ok

How many times does he do the red balloon thing?

[dense raven]

he does it every || 25% of health has been depleted, so if you've done 25% of his full health worth of damage, he will do it||

[ancient berry]

Oh I got him to do it 3 times

[dense raven]

so he'll do it at || 75% health, then 50%, then 25% ||

yeah he would

yeah he would've been very low then

or if you hit him while he is bowing, || he will get into the pufferfish attack early, so if its 3 in that case, then he still had a fair bit of health ||

[ancient berry]

I didn’t hit him before

[dense raven]

alr then he was very low

[ancient berry]

Yay I beat him

[dense raven]

nice good job

[ancient berry]

Ty

[dense raven]

np

[ancient berry]

And my last ||charm notch||

[dense raven]

u got all of them now?

[ancient berry]

Yep

[dense raven]

nicee

[empty cliff]

|| um I just sat at a bench and got the White Defender achievement ||

[dense raven]

have you already beat || white defender before? ||

might just be a weird glitch, one time i benched and it showed all my achievements on the left and kept doing it until i relaunched the game

soo idk maybe just try that

[simple island]

Yeah those things happen

[empty cliff]

only in || Godhome ||

[dense raven]

uhh.. thats weird

well idk why that happens

just relaunch the game or soemthing

[empty cliff]

btw I am at || False Knight || corpse and || dreamnail || but nothing happens

[ancient berry]

Go above him

[dense raven]

are you at the ||massive armour he was wearing?||

or his real corpse

[empty cliff]

massive armor

[dense raven]

cus there is a secret room || above the arena behind a breakable wall where his actual corpse is ||

[dense raven]

u gotta go here ^

[empty cliff]

ok

[ancient berry]

Yeah

[dense raven]

yeah i never ended up doing || failed champ ||

his double damage pisses me off tbh

i found || lost kin real easy if u havent done that ||

[empty cliff]

I'll do all

[dense raven]

ight

gl

[ancient berry]

Why is there 4 flames available if I only need 3

[dense raven]

for || grimmchild ?? ||

[ancient berry]

Yeah

[dense raven]

what stage of || grimmchild || are you up to

[ancient berry]

The one you get for beating ||grimm|| I think

[dense raven]

apparently one of them unlocks dialogue with || brumm, thats if you've talked to him in deepnest and you ant to banish the grimm troupe. ||
if you want to kill || NKG, then dont go to the one in deepnest ( distant village ) cus if you do, you help banish the grimm troupe and you dont get the fully upgraded grimmchild, but instead u get carefree melody ||

you get the same % no matter which path u go down btw

[ancient berry]

Oh ok

[dense raven]

and in my opinion getting || carefree melody is easier and better ||

did you talk to || brumm || there

[ancient berry]

I guess I’m banishing because I already got the one in ||deepnest||

Yeah

[dense raven]

right then u can just go back to the || troupe in dirtmouth and i think ur done ||

[ancient berry]

Ong I stupid

[dense raven]

|| carefree melody is a charm that replaces grimmchild, that has a low chance to block damage ||

idk too much about it, if u wanna know more probs just look it up

[ancient berry]

Ok

[stoic cedar]

no, ||u will need to meet brumm at the nightmare lantern first to complete the banishment||

[dense raven]

oh mb

wait

is the || nightmare lantern where you summon the grimm troupe in cliffs? ||

[ancient berry]

Can I still make ||fragile charms unbreakable if I banish||?

[dense raven]

no, u gotta do that before || banishing grimm troupe ||

[ancient berry]

Oh ok

[stoic cedar]

yes

[dense raven]

ah ok

[hallow bane]

I did the one in ||deepnest but still killed nightmare are you sure youve got the right pattern?||

[dense raven]

I have no idea, i got that answer online so i might be wrong

[mossy stream]

do i need to || give flowers to the other npcs? like elderbug and melissa||

[dense raven]

not for %

[mossy stream]

cool

[dense raven]

only for extra dialogue

[timber bay]

i always ||give flower to elderbug||, he needs something like that in his life

[stoic cedar]

||fyi the fandom wiki page for delicate flower has some misinformation. Marissa is not a delicate flower recipient. U should use the independent wiki instead: https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Delicate_Flower||

[timber bay]

thank you for bringing up that. Fandom wiki sucks (the company not necessarily the entire wiki)

[mossy stream]

oh ok

[stoic cedar]

||the banishment only occurs if u follow brumm to the nightmare lantern and complete the banishment process. Otherwise the ritual continues as normal||

[hallow bane]

|| alr well fighting nkg is funner anyways lol so im glad i did that instead||

[timber bay]

basically if you can't ||beat NKG you can go talk to Brumm and he'll finish the quest for u instead||

[oblique lion]

Is ||sprint master|| good?

[timber bay]

||sprint is fine, it's cheap charm notch-wise, if you care that much about speed, dash master is prolly better or just Crystal dash everywhere||

[stoic cedar]

||yep nkg is a pretty fun fight, tho if u r going for all achievements u will need to do both choices, each on a separate save file (unless u on PlayStation, that has different achievements)||

[oblique lion]

Wait

HOW IS THAT A SPOILER

[hallow bane]

Location name

[oblique lion]

Its literally the first area in the game

[timber bay]

||it does make you noticeably faster when walking but you're gonna be dashing a majority of the time anyways||

[simple island]

Well… everything is
Previously the rule was everything after ||dirthmouth||, but that created loopholes and stuff so it was changed to everything

[oblique lion]

Yeah

[timber bay]

you should get all the charms 🙂

[oblique lion]

How much does it cost?

[hallow bane]

1

Or do you mean geo

[simple island]

No one actually thinks that ||kings pass|| is a big spoiler, it just kinda has to be to avoid loopholes

[hallow bane]

Ok no how is that a spoiler lmao

[oblique lion]

I might buy it just to be able to buy another ||notch||

[oblique lion]

Geo

[hallow bane]

Idk then

[simple island]

Like 300 ish ?

[oblique lion]

Im pretty sure it costs 200

Either 200 or 300

[timber bay]

i have to spoiler ||notch|| i might as well have to spoiler charm

[hallow bane]

Ong

[timber bay]

yeah just buy it

money is plentiful

[oblique lion]

Btw how do i get through this part?

Like do i use ||crystal dash||?

[stoic cedar]

No, that requires a certain ability that u don’t have yet

[oblique lion]

||is it shade dash||?

[stoic cedar]

No

[oblique lion]

Then i probably have it

Whats the ability?

[stoic cedar]

Show inventory

[oblique lion]

Can't

[stoic cedar]

Why not

[oblique lion]

Im at school

Just tell me

[simple island]

then follow class instead of being on your phone you baffon

Why ask for help if you literally cannot act upon it

[oblique lion]

I dont have a class rn

[stoic cedar]

Okay well I’m fairly confident u don’t have the ability since it would be extremely obvious what to do otherwise

[oblique lion]

I have ||monarch wings||

[stoic cedar]

That ain’t it either

[oblique lion]

Then i cant think of any other movement related ability

Just tell me

Why are y'all gatekeeping this information like its gonna spoil the entire lore

[simple island]

It’s called ||isma’s tear||
We were gatekeeping because what the hell are you gonna do with that name ? Besides googling its location which is dumb as it really isn’t a hidden object, it is located in the ||waterways||, and really has many signs pointing to it

[manic forum]

I need help. I'm struggling to beat ||hornet 2||

[quiet sedge]

||upgrade all ur spells and get all movement items||

[ebon copper]

to bethere, he already prob has all ||movement|| accessable to him

[manic forum]

I don't know how to get ||shade fireball|| nor do I have ||shrieking raiths||

[quiet sedge]

True

[manic forum]

And I'm struggling with the thorn thingys she puts around the battlefield

[ebon copper]

try to jump less for ||hornet2|| fight, react to her attacks only once you are sure of their trajectory

[fluid garden]

spoiltag probably, ||and you can attack them with your nail to destroy them i didnt know that when i first fought her so it made it alot harder||

[manic forum]

I already know that. The thing is that she puts three more as soon as I destroy one

[ebon copper]

try to ignore them, and deal with them only when she is staggered

[crisp isle]

You can use them to pogo

[ebon copper]

||pogoing|| in that fight is kinda bad

[crisp isle]

Yeah maybe

Arena is pretty small

I also don't think you should ignore them

[fluid garden]

just get rid of them if you have spare time in between attacks

[crisp isle]

If you don't deal with them the arena is gonna be full of spike balls

[manic forum]

Alr thanks

That really isn't helping to say "it's easy". It's a channel for helping ppl they are struggling with. Give tips

[deft glade]

||She doesn't have much health, so be aggressive||

[manic forum]

Already doing that

[fluid garden]

honestly the biggest tip for ||hornet2|| is just keep practicing tbh i know its a generic tip but it helps alot alot for her

[cursive escarp]

||should i use shaman stone or mark of pride for pantheon||

?

[deft glade]

||Shaman Stone||

[manic forum]

I beat her

[boreal spade]

I forgot about healing on that fight

[cursive escarp]

||for p3||

[boreal spade]

Just do whatever

[deft glade]

||Mark of Pride is good for final boss 2nd phase, but Shaman Stone helps with...everything else.||

[cursive escarp]

ok

[teal field]

how can i beat ||absolute radiance|| cuz i dont know how to play good

what?

[deft glade]

||He means upgrade fully before trying her||

[teal field]

||man i have literally everything unlocked lmao||

[deft glade]

||Well, then, my tips are use D-dark on the floor spikes to make them go away and Abyss Shriek when you can||

[cursive escarp]

like why would u not get every upgrades before that

[teal field]

exactly

[ruby shuttle]

the charms you should be using are at least ||strength, qslash, MoP||

then ||shamans||

increased ||nail distance|| is good since ||absrad|| spends the whole fight up in the air

[bleak gale]

mod probably

it does 0 damage

[ruby shuttle]

also on the first phase, limit your ||spells|| to mostly ||shriek||. then on the second phase you should use ||ddark|| more

[bleak gale]

||first phase ddark is fine for spikes||

or for ||dodging overlap attacks or orbs||

[ruby shuttle]

im talking about for damage

im pretty sure the top of ||ddark|| doesnt even reach ||absrad||

[bleak gale]

i think it does if shes low enough

not much damage anyway

[ruby shuttle]

she stays at the same height the first phase

[bleak gale]

she varies slightly

[ruby shuttle]

not enough to matter

[bleak gale]

you can tell by looking at her feet

[ruby shuttle]

its just better to use ||shriek|| on that phase

[bleak gale]

ok yeah ||ddark easily reaches her||

does 15 damage

not awful tbh

[ruby shuttle]

yeah, but with ||shamans, shriek can do 120||

[bleak gale]

also the height difference is larger than the knight's height

so true

[ruby shuttle]

you can do ||ddark|| if you want, I just dont think the damage is worth the soul cost

second phase ||ddark|| away

[bleak gale]

||ddark is never worth for the damage, even in second phase rly. its just the best way to dodge if you have excess soul||

[ruby shuttle]

yeah

[bleak gale]

what does the H in your name mean

[ruby shuttle]

i honesttly rarely use ||spells|| from ||failed champ forward||

[ruby shuttle]

hitless

[bleak gale]

i dont trust smh

[ruby shuttle]

ok

you dont have to

[teal field]

can you grab you playing ||P5|| hitless so i can see how you dodge?

[ruby shuttle]

oh god, id have to find that video

that was back in like 2020

[bleak gale]

||if its just for radiance then you can find like very long hitless streaks so you can see how they dodge consistently there||

[ruby shuttle]

yeah. it might be easier to just find ||radiant HoG|| videos

i mean, the dodging i feel is pretty self explanatory up until like ||NKG||

[charred wraith]

Does the game's timer still run even on pause?

[shut sparrow]

pretty sure it doesn't

[timid horizon]

||Guys i find a masks piece it says collect 3 more to strengthen yoself what is it||

[charred wraith]

I hope so...

[shut sparrow]

please use spoiler tags. ||It will give you an additional hp||

[timid horizon]

oh like 1 more alien face thing at the top left?

[shut sparrow]

yes and again please use spoiler tags

[crisp isle]

Bro started the game 10 minutes ago

[timid horizon]

ok

[charred wraith]

I'm doing a ||steelsoul + speedrun achievement run. I'm not good with stufflike fireball skips, and obviously i can't shade skip even if I can do it. I'm at mantis lords, where should my next route be? I'm 1h in... i don't think that's too good if i still have to do deepnest after getting dream nail||

[unkempt sky]

Yey

[ruby shuttle]

id try going for ||sanctum||

or if you have enough geo, go buy ||lantern||

[bleak gale]

Spoiler tag this

[timid horizon]

what is with everyione saying spoiler this

[shut sparrow]

||I recommend either going to soul sanctum and getting dive to go to crystal heart. This would be a bit slower though.
Or you can collect relics, go to city and sell them to lemm for the lantern. Then you can go to peak without having to do sanctum and later also get ddark and go to resting grounds from peak||

[charred wraith]

Sadly, no... and i'm gonna save up ||for heart and strength anyway just to make sure my stupidity won't get in the way||

[bleak gale]

Because this channel doesn't allow spoilers

[ruby shuttle]

so your gonna do ||darknest||?

[charred wraith]

But... don't i need ||dive for ddark?||

[ruby shuttle]

yes

[shut sparrow]

that is true

[charred wraith]

... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[ruby shuttle]

exactly

[charred wraith]

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ||QGA||

[bleak gale]

Why can't you get ||lantern||

[shut sparrow]

you don't have to

[charred wraith]

Yeah... ||lantern it is||

[ruby shuttle]

yeah, just go in through ||fungal by spore shroom||

[charred wraith]

Frickfrickfrick. Okay... so... tell me if this is fine:
||mantis lords, get geo to buy greed, go to sanctum, then peak but no need for ddark since dive has i-frames anyway just to save time||

[bleak gale]

||why greed?||

[charred wraith]

Geo...?

No? :<

[bleak gale]

It'll cost more than you'll get out of it in a speedrun

[ruby shuttle]

you should just buy ||strength||

[charred wraith]

I've been listenting to ||zote|| sing the theme song for a while now lmao

[bleak gale]

Since when bro

[shut sparrow]

||don't rely on enemies for geo. Use relics mainly||

[bleak gale]

Plus it takes up ||notches|| you could use on ||dash master for speed or heart for health||

[mellow vigil]

In a speedrun || most of your geo comes from relics and chests which aren’t affected by greed ||

[bleak gale]

Yeah

[charred wraith]

Okay, what about... get ||crystal heart, go to isma's, then skip darknest?||

[ruby shuttle]

also, after ||mantis lords, you get access to a chest that has like 600 geo in it||

[shut sparrow]

why get ||isma's?||

[charred wraith]

Or is ||selling relics and eggs faster?||

[ruby shuttle]

thats faster if you have a lot

[shut sparrow]

if you know the locations, yes

[charred wraith]

Well... seeing as i started the run with no plan... i have none currently...

[ruby shuttle]

since your not that far in, it might be better to just restart

[shut sparrow]

that's not too bad. There aren't a lot of ||relics or eggs before claw anyway||

[charred wraith]

It's far for me >:[, well kinda... but still

[ebon copper]

check the interractable map for where ||relics|| would be on your way while going to ||city||

[charred wraith]

Okay, imma just go and route where i can find ||relics and eggs after fighting mantis lords, then sanctum, then peak||

[ebon copper]

and just get those

[timid horizon]

Is the default keybinds for pc recommended

[charred wraith]

Hoho, you dare assume i have bought a single map so far?

[ebon copper]

i immediately changed everything

[timid horizon]

me to , the default keybinds were a bit unconfortable

[charred wraith]

Okay, imma go to routing now. Thanks, bugs

[shut sparrow]

just pick stuff you feel comfortable with

[ebon copper]

i dont:
||https://scripterswar.com/hollowknight/map||

[charred wraith]

Ah, neat! Damn, thanks

[ebon copper]

the map wouldnt have ||relic|| locations normally anyway

[leaden brook]

Installed hk by apkvision but can't see controls on my android.

any solution?

[plucky dome]

You won't get help with a pirated version here

[leaden brook]

I already own and completed the game man, 110% on steam.

[plucky dome]

doesn't matter

[leaden brook]

okay no probs

[plucky dome]

discussing pirated content is against discord's community guidelines fyi

[leaden brook]

its alr

ill check myself

[acoustic sigil]

Do you search for every mention of eclipse lol

[unkempt sky]

Maybe...

[acoustic sigil]

It's okay, ego surfing is fun

[timid horizon]

but i am unable to see it in inventiory

||i took hallow nest charms but i cannot see it in inventory||

[plucky dome]

That’s because ||it’s not a charm, you’ll find it on the main page of your inventory||

[timid horizon]

what does it do i found this guy i can sell it to

for 450 geos

[ruby shuttle]

thats ||Lemm. You give him the relics you find and he gives you geo||

[charred wraith]

With no initial plan... is ||quirrel city bench at 1hr 20m gonna make it to sub 5hr?||

[ruby shuttle]

with no plan, probably not

you need to be getting ||claw|| by at most 30 minutes

and thats generous

[charred wraith]

Well...i have a plan now tho. I just didn't start wjth one

[ruby shuttle]

I would try to follow the any% speedrun while collecting things as you progress

[charred wraith]

I know i shouldn't be overthinking this since it's my first ||steelsoul and mixing it with speedrun, but i really wanna get three achievements at the same time||

[charred wraith]

They use ||shade skips. I'm on steelsoul||

[ruby shuttle]

after ||claw and mantis lords|| I would go up and buy ||strength, then lantern|| and then immediatly go into ||crystal peaks||

[charred wraith]

Unless there's one for ||ss||

[charred wraith]

Fair. Is there a way to get to ||lurien without A) dying, and B) waterways?||

[ruby shuttle]

yes

[charred wraith]

Mind shedding some light on this bug? :>

[ruby shuttle]

actually, you should get ||dive, stag to queens station, then do what I said||

then, once you get ||cdash|| go the way you would go to get ||ddark, then drop down into resting grounds to get dream nail||, then take the ||elevator to end up in right side city||

or, after ||mantis lords, you go to deepnest to get tram pass, tram to basin, and climb up into right side city throught the broken elevator shaft||

[charred wraith]

Oooh. ||through the tomb area. Fine, soul sanctum is a must... Next question (sorry), is ddark i-frames longer than ddive? Is ddark more optimised than going for shadesoul?||

[ruby shuttle]

a little, but yes

[charred wraith]

... i'm on ||city rn with quirrel... so uh... i think imma just take the soul sanctum route||

[normal rain]

It also does twice the amount of damage iirc

[ruby shuttle]

||ddark does 60 while shade soul does 30||

[charred wraith]

Well, ddamn

[ruby shuttle]

do you have ||shamans?||

[charred wraith]

Yup yup. First thing i bought after ||getting dash||

[ruby shuttle]

okay

do you have ||crossroads stag||

[charred wraith]

My game's off rn since i plan on going to sleep soon, but i have: ||fury, soul catcher, dashmaster, gathering swamr (mistake, ik...), heart, and strength||

[charred wraith]

Yup yup

[ruby shuttle]

last two questions. do you know how to do ||wings skip in spire||
and do you know how to do ||crossroads acid skip||

[charred wraith]

||Wings skip, yes. And i can just practice in my original save file anyway. Any form of acid skip, no... that may take more time to practice||

[ruby shuttle]

this one is really easy. in the room you do it, just walk left and ||crystal dash|| right as you hit the wall

then once you hit the other wall, jump and ||dash||

[charred wraith]

But as lomg as i can make it within... eh... 3hr 40m... i'm screwed. I can always go for a third run anyway, idc that much. I just gotta prove i'm a god gamer!

[ruby shuttle]

its super easy once you figure it out

[charred wraith]

Easy compared to ||qga? Are they not the same level of dofficulty?||

[ruby shuttle]

no, if ||qga is a 10, crossroads is like a 3||

in the room, just walk left, dont hesitate once you walk off the ledge, then just ||cdash on the wall||. its that simple

[charred wraith]

Dope then. Alrighty, thanks a lot

[ruby shuttle]

course

[charred wraith]

Kay, but imma make just a quick rundown if you don't mind?

[ruby shuttle]

ok

[charred wraith]

||Nailsmith then lemm. Then sanctum. Storeroom stag to crossroads to buy lantern. Peak for cdash, then ddark, then drop to resting grounds. Then from resting grounds to spire. Then from spire to probably king's station to go to deepnest, stag to crossroads to go to archives (and snatch one last charm notch if i have time)||

Strat may vary depending on if i have the fortunate time to ||bench warp...||

[ruby shuttle]

your going ||Lurien, Herrah, Monomon||?

[charred wraith]

Idk. Will that not be the best order?

[solemn pike]

where do people usually go after beating ||the mantis lords?|| I'm going through ||deepnest|| and theres quite a few dark areas where I cant see anything

[ruby shuttle]

I would go ||Spire, back to Kings or storerooms to crossroads, then go to Monomon||

that way your right by ||queens station stag||

then just go through ||funagl entrance by moss prophet||

to go to ||Herrah||

[charred wraith]

Ah, so reverse. Aight

[ruby shuttle]

also, make sure to have at least 250geo for ||deepnest stag||

otherwise your hard saved in ||beasts den||

[charred wraith]

There's an item for that in ||dirthmouth in one of the houses||

[charred wraith]

Ss'd your advice and other stuff we discussed. Again, thanks a bunch

I'd give you an ||elegy of enigma charm|| or smth, but i'm not dead. So uh... yeah, thanks

Goodnight, hallownest!

[fickle jasper]

which ||charms|| should I use for|| thk||

[simple island]

Technically what you have is great
But if you ||die… you may want to pivot to shaman stone quick focus
Or shaman stone grubsong soul catcher||

[fickle jasper]

thank you for the tip, I already started the battle

[shut sparrow]

||if strength breaks I recommend shaman stone, catcher and grubsong. Though quick focus as azerod said is fine as well||

[fickle jasper]

ty for the tips

[shut sparrow]

np and good luck! Make sure to use a lot of ||spells||

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[fickle jasper]

don't worry, I already beat him

[shut sparrow]

oh alright. GG then

[earnest zealot]

I'm on phone it's complicated

[shut sparrow]

it describes mobile on the image

[shut sparrow]

here

[earnest zealot]

||Is this a good setup for NKG||

now im on pc

[fickle jasper]

ty

[shut sparrow]

||well all of these charms (except for grimmchild but that's mandatory) are broken so that works fine. Though a nailart build would be better idk if u wanna use nailarts||

[earnest zealot]

mh i use arts so that could be an option

[shut sparrow]

an example of a ||nart + spell build would be nailmaster's glory, shaman stone, spell twister, soul catcher, quick focus||

make sure you heal a lot during attacks and use ||spells|| with this build though

[earnest zealot]

yea, but the child is mandatory so idk if i have enough ||notches||

[shut sparrow]

true. You can leave out ||catcher or twister. You don't need quick focus for any heal either, it just makes it a bit easier. So you can also use grubsong and grimmchild instead of that||

[earnest zealot]

mh ok thanks

[timid horizon]

||friends should i use a shrimple key to
(1) unlock a door which is to far right of || dirth mouth||
(2) unlock a door which is in underground of a ||city of tears||||

||i have 1 simple key now and i think i will lose it if i use it||

[shut sparrow]

please use spoiler tags on ||simple key||

[timid horizon]

tell if 1 or 2

[shut sparrow]

||you will probably be more satisfied with the one in city. But you can choose whichever you want||

[earnest zealot]

far right of ||dirtmouth|| there is where you use your eggs for regaining your ||soul|| if it gets somewhere you can't reach

[timid horizon]

so number 2 ?

[shut sparrow]

😭 tag your message

[timid horizon]

ok jeez

[crisp isle]

Pick 2

1 is useless ish

[timid horizon]

ok good

[noble lodge]

||Banishment|| and ||Ritual|| achievement how do I get them both?

[shut sparrow]

two different save files

[noble lodge]

How

[acoustic sigil]

Wdym how

You make a save in slot 2

[shut sparrow]

when you open up the game you can select your save file. Click on a new one and start the game over this time getting the other achievement

[keen stream]

jus start a new game

[keen stream]

||deepnest|| without ||lantern|| isnt as bad as i thought

[lime spruce]

hello

[keen stream]

i change my mind

[keen stream]

hi

[keen stream]

im going back to ||absrad||

yall do any certain progression in ||steel soul||

i instantly gave up on ||ascended absrad|| after dying once

[lime spruce]

its sad

[keen stream]

and painful

[lime spruce]

how many|| dreamers|| did you have

[keen stream]

i dont have 1

but i alr collected quite a lot of stuff innit

bunch of charms n shit

also explored ||deepnest|| earlier

[lime spruce]

yes

i dont play in ||steel soul ||

[keen stream]

well, i want to platinum the game...

[lime spruce]

yes i understand

[alpine comet]

Yo

[lime spruce]

i have 111 % i want to finis my party before play in|| steel soul ||

[keen stream]

i now hate these mf

[lime spruce]

its hard

[keen stream]

i got minecrafted

[ruby shuttle]

the worst in that area are the ||crystal hunters||

[alpine comet]

at least it was a double kill

[keen stream]

not rly, i deal with them using ||vengeful spirit||

[lime spruce]

how did you die ?

[alpine comet]

bro did not get away with that

[keen stream]

pickaxe

[lime spruce]

ok

[keen stream]

the ||husk miner|| really said "if i'll die, i'll take you with me"

[drowsy yarrow]

I recommend getting ||fragile heart|| as soon as possible in ||steel soul||. Also get any available ||mask shards||, but be careful with ||mawlek||.

The arena is different than the ||ascended arena|| which threw me off

[keen stream]

i did allat along with that ||mask skip|| thing with the lil mosquito guy

i even saved up geo for all the ||fragile charms||

[keen stream]

i got used to the flat ground i almost died

[alpine comet]

||flat arena ||is smaller iirc

[drowsy yarrow]

That's why I almost died to ||nosk|| too. That little raised ground messed me up and I was at 1 hp like 5 times.

[keen stream]

its way better than normal arena ngl

[drowsy yarrow]

was also overconfident and didn't practice at all

[keen stream]

my first ||ab||

[lime spruce]

good

[alpine comet]

Cool

[keen stream]

||nail bros|| are tuff

[solid heart]

Why haven't you done ||EB tho 😭 the lifeblood will help a lot||
GG tho 🔥

[lime spruce]

||p1 and p2|| ful for me

[ruby shuttle]

one thing I would change about the ||pantheons|| is that all ||bindings|| only lit up the four binding icons and hitless lit up the center

[solid heart]

||hitless lit up the center and RAB lit up the full stone in the center 🤑||

[ruby shuttle]

doing all ||bindings|| first lights up the center too

[keen stream]

i did ||3 bindings|| with the being the one unlocked, nailed it first try

but i just want it shiny

[lime spruce]

||ther are a icone for hitless ?||

[alpine comet]

no

[lime spruce]

ok

[solid heart]

Yes, but only for ||P5||

[keen stream]

thats for ||hall of gods|| only

[solid heart]

Ironically ||AB takes priority over R5 which is insanely stupid||

[alpine comet]

wait what

[solid heart]

Yes, TC had to leave a little trinket

[lime spruce]

I can't play HK anymore, I broke my switch.

blue scrin

[keen stream]

this shit payed off

i prolly wont do anything that has ||oblobbles|| or ||markoth|| innit

[ruby shuttle]

how do you ||radiant NKG but not Oblobbles?||

[drowsy yarrow]

I think they added an indicator for ||R5|| without intending for it to be the "hardest thing to do" in the game, not expecting anyone to do it.

[hoary anvil]

very easily

[keen stream]

fuck ||oblobbles||, i hate them

[mellow vigil]

|| Oblobbles is the true final boss ||

[lime spruce]

o this thing

[alpine comet]

imo || radiant oblobbles is much harder than radiant nkg||

[lime spruce]

yes

[keen stream]

||rad oblobbles|| lowk harder than ||nkg|| or ||pv||

[solid heart]

This is the image lol. Sadly not mine, yet...

[mellow vigil]

|| Radient oblobbles suck, they took me like 3 hours ||

[hoary anvil]

less enjoyable too

[mellow vigil]

And it’s not even close

[keen stream]

you still attempting ||R5||??

[solid heart]

Yep, my break is finally over

[keen stream]

i genuinely hate ||oblobbles|| down to my very soul

[alpine comet]

Gl then

[keen stream]

but i hate ||radkoth|| more

[lime spruce]

Do you have any advice for the ||p4||?

[drowsy yarrow]

||radiant oblobbles|| aren't as bad as ||radkoth|| imo

[keen stream]

i hate the way they shoot stuff in random direction

[mellow vigil]

|| radkoth || took me less time than || oblobbles ||

[keen stream]

that randomness always gets me

[mellow vigil]

I somehow found a way to walk into every attack as soon as possible

[drowsy yarrow]

The projectiles move slow enough to dodge consistently so long as you're not too close to them. The real danger is if they get desynchronized

[keen stream]

instinct tells me to catch em all

[mellow vigil]

Real

[alpine comet]

theres only 2 patterns to them

[keen stream]

i hate it when that happens, i cant stop moving

[mellow vigil]

Really?

[keen stream]

hell naw

[lime spruce]

what is ||radkoth||

[mellow vigil]

I feel like I should have known this

[keen stream]

||radiant markoth||

[lime spruce]

oh ok

its very hard

[keen stream]

i dont believe it at all

[alpine comet]

im like 99.99% sure cuz i have done ||radiant obobbles|| and thats what i noticed

[keen stream]

idk if i should continue playing at all, i lost all motivation when i died

when the rng got tired and used the same shit again and again

[alpine comet]

definetely take a break

if you attempt rn you might not be able to give your full effort and most likely just die again

[keen stream]

i'll try mods in the meantime

[drowsy yarrow]

The ||oblobbles|| are really similar to ||markoth|| for the optimal strategy. ||Narts|| to outrange them, ||spells|| to push them back, and avoiding getting boxed in by knowing when to switch sides.

[alpine comet]

if you want to try mods randomizers are fun

[keen stream]

can i play it on an existing saves or do i have to make a new one?

[alpine comet]

new save but enemy randomizers might work

[keen stream]

how bout the ||pale|| court thing?

[mellow vigil]

Seriously?

[dense socket]

hello people

[mellow vigil]

|| pale? ||

[alpine comet]

it will but make sure to create a backup save

[dense socket]

what actions do i have to trigger for ||cloth|| to appear in ||queens gardens||. I have found her in ||ancient basin and fungal wastes but not deepnest||

[keen stream]

kinda weird for ||pale|| to be tagged, but fair enough, the dude is sitting in the ||white palace||

[dense socket]

i dont mean like in the bossfight but like in the entrance area on map

[keen stream]

im not sure if thats supposed to happen cause iirc bro would only appear when fighting the boss there

||boss in queens garden||

[dense socket]

i heard you need to find them in qg before you fight boss

[keen stream]

for me, she only appeared in the boss room

[alpine comet]

no you dont || ancient basin ||is last trigger required

[dense socket]

mmm ok

i just don wanna do it solo

i need peoples 😭

[keen stream]

use my emotional support build

[dense socket]

which is that

im using

[keen stream]

||glowing womb, weaverlings, grimmothy||

[dense socket]

how do i spoiler images

[alpine comet]

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[dense socket]

rn im using this if ||compass was grubsong||

[alpine comet]

remove || balder shell and sprintmaster and you can equip mark of pride||

||soul catcher || can also work

[keen stream]

turn ||strength|| to ||unbreakable||

[dense socket]

do i do ||colo a bunch or something else for 15k||

also i kinda wanna do ||heart|| first

[keen stream]

||colo2||

[keen stream]

||strength|| would be more useful ngl

but if you want to tank more dmg... why not

[crisp isle]

||Mark of pride|| is Overrated

||unbreakable strength|| is way better

[alpine comet]

|| heart is no where close to strenght , do get strenght first ||

[solid heart]

No

[solid heart]

Of course lol

But this is ||fragile strength||

[drowsy yarrow]

||You can kind of deal with fragile charms by benching next to leg eater and dream gate wherever you might die||

[solid heart]

True, but your geo

[drowsy yarrow]

I had too much anyways but yeah

[solid heart]

At that point just ||make it unbreakable ngl|| it's a big jump but absolutely worth it

[alpine comet]

yeah

[drowsy yarrow]

I did that for my ||speedrun achievements||

[alpine comet]

well speedrun is a different case

i think i also did something similar

[solid heart]

For my Speedrun achievements I just steamrolled a 1:30 with a ||ddark barebones route lol||

[alpine comet]

the only diffiuclt boss for speedrun is || watcher knight ||

[drowsy yarrow]

||thk|| also if you're too used to ||shade dash||

[alpine comet]

now that i have learned to get || double hit fireball consistenly || they are pretty easy

[acoustic sigil]

||I struggled a lot on thk, watcher knights get destroyed with ddark||

[drowsy yarrow]

I died more to him than ||wk|| tbh, maybe because of ||godhome|| practice

[solid heart]

I think I died once to each iirc, ||dark is just too op||

[little dock]

any agreed upon best charm loadout for ||pantheons||? I got all available except the ||unbreakables because i sent grimm troupe away without realizing...||

[alpine comet]

||thk || can be a bit of a problem cuz most people just face tank or are just too overpowered to even get the moveset down

[acoustic sigil]

||shaman stone, quick slash, strength and any of these: spell twister, steady body, grubsong, nail masters glory.||

[little dock]

||my strength is currently broken and tbh i really cba to repair it rn..||

[solid heart]

||Strength and Quick Slash
Mark of pride if nail
Shaman if spells
Quick focus if survivability
And a pick between:
2 among Steady Body (nail), Nail Master's Glory (narts), Dreamwielder (spells), and grubsong (all around)
Or Heart (survivability)
Sharp shadow (approach and safety tool)
Twister (spells)||

[acoustic sigil]

It's one of the best charms that will be very useful for all future content left to you, but

[little dock]

||it doesnt break in godhome right?||

[acoustic sigil]

Correct

[little dock]

||oh well ill try without for now and repair it if i feel i need it||

thanks

[azure grail]

yoo guys i jus peat ||pv||

i think if you ||do ascended|| until you beat it hitless then do ||radiant||

thats what i did

also do ||mmc||on ||radiant||first

is very cool

[oblique lion]

Does the ||king's seal|| have any uses outside of selling?

[snow steppe]

no

[keen stream]

[oblique lion]

Oh thanks i was just about to leave the ||city of tears||

[snow steppe]

damn

[deft glade]

Better luck next time!

[snow steppe]

||nail masters|| pmo

[keen stream]

fr, but ||pain master|| is cool

[snow steppe]

||all tears paintheon||

[oblique lion]

I wish there were actual banks in this game

[snow steppe]

there is

[trim hawk]

you run out of stuff to buy fairly quick tbh

[oblique lion]

I said actual banks

Not thieves

[trim hawk]

they should have added golden nail for 10k geo that breaks when you get hit

[jade sedge]

You should spoiler tag this imo

[snow steppe]

better ||delicate flower||

[oblique lion]

Why? So new players can lose their money?

[keen stream]

cause it spoils smth that can be found in the game

[jade sedge]

More precisely, ||so new players can experience it as intended||

[dire burrow]

||Beat P4 where is P5 I don’t see it||

[keen stream]

above

[thick wing]

hit the thing on top

[snow steppe]

when i found her i couldnt even pay the geo to open an account

[keen stream]

climb up into the clouds

[trim hawk]

I wouldn't rob that experience from anyone

[jade sedge]

You know, it was added to the game intentionally. It isnt something everyone should avoid, even if it is a bit harmful in a way

[deft glade]

||Check a little gizmo above P4, then game will tell you the rest||

[trim hawk]

and it really isn't even that much

[dire burrow]

So ummm it’s all of them right?

Even the annoying ones

Like ||Zote, Markoth||

[deft glade]

Not all, technically

[dire burrow]

Oh well I’ll start practicing in the ||Hall of gods||

[deft glade]

||No Mantis Lords, no Nosk, no Zote the Mighty, no Hollow Knight, and no Radiance (if Zote dead, then no GPZ)||

[dire burrow]

Mine looks like this rn

[thick wing]

bro i tried to spoiler

[oblique lion]

||what do i put in the open slot||?

[deft glade]

Use || in the front and back of your message

[deft glade]

Be more specific, please and thank you

[dire burrow]

Which of them are the hardest

[oblique lion]

Door with an open slot

[deft glade]

Not unlocked yet

[trim hawk]

||obblobbles|| actually impossible

[dire burrow]

Not really?

[deft glade]

Screenshot?

[deft glade]

Just annoying

[keen stream]

peak moment

[deft glade]

Congrats!!!!

[oblique lion]

||in forgotten crossroads||

[keen stream]

[trim hawk]

I need to get to doing that too

[keen stream]

annoying af

[trim hawk]

||marmu|| I despise with ||all bindings||

[keen stream]

you should do ||radhog|| first before ||pantheons ab||

[calm sedge]

The second heal a bit when the first is defeated, start by dealing as much damage to both, before killing one

[deft glade]

||The one near Salubra or...?||

[trim hawk]

first time I actually kinda got pissed off at the game

[dire burrow]

||They bosses I struggle with are Oro and Mato, Markoth, Zote and everyone else isn’t that hard unless I have bad Uumuu RNG ig||

[trim hawk]

I'm most of the way there

[oblique lion]

||the one connecting forgotten crossroads and resting grounds||

[deft glade]

||Abyss Shriek and/or Shade Soul when they're bundled up together as well||

[keen stream]

im questioning my decisions in life every time i play

[dire burrow]

I mean at least it’s not the ||Ascended Arenas||, right?

[trim hawk]

but like ||radhog|| doesn't have ||bindings so not the best practice||

[keen stream]

das awesome

[deft glade]

||Ah, the tram?||

[calm sedge]

||oro and mato is a mtter of playing safe tbh||

||and fuck markoth||

[keen stream]

you can download the toggleable ||bindings|| to get that ||pantheon|| experience, i used it to practice ||nail and pain master||

[trim hawk]

||oro mato|| once I learned it was the most satisfying boss so far for me

[keen stream]

||sly|| is better

[dire burrow]

At least there’s still a floor unlike in the ||ascended|| right?

[trim hawk]

next on the agenda

[keen stream]

i second that

[dire burrow]

Don’t tell me they took the floor away

[trim hawk]

the ||nailmasters|| are all really fun

[keen stream]

kinda

[trim hawk]

well ||sheo|| really could have been harder

[keen stream]

there're still platforms tho

[dire burrow]

Nooooooooooo it’s not regular?

☠️

[trim hawk]

pogo only ||markoth|| sounds like the worst thing ever

[dire burrow]

||Nailless Markoth- you can only dreamnail him for soul and get spells||

😈😈😈

[keen stream]

[keen stream]

stupidly enough, it worked out for me out of sheer luck

[dire burrow]

No ||I meant in P5, is it still the Attuned arena?||

[keen stream]

nuh uh

[dire burrow]

NOOOOOO

[drowsy yarrow]

||oro and mato|| are actually a lot of fun once you mix in ||nail arts|| with ||spells|| for ||all bindings||

[dire burrow]

Time to practice every boss in ||Attuned and Ascended at least twice then||

[keen stream]

i'd fr practice ||narts|| on ||sly||

[ruby shuttle]

||gslash works great for second phase sly||

[deft glade]

||To practice for P5, do every boss on Ascended||

[keen stream]

its like im giving myself huge debuff cause i barely use ||narts and ddark||

[dire burrow]

That’s literally what I said

[drowsy yarrow]

||narts|| really shine with ||ab||. They become the best dps option

[trim hawk]

||radiant too, should just aim to not get hit at all||

[deft glade]

||I mean, like beat them consistently on that mode||

[dire burrow]

True

[keen stream]

not really, i suggest fight them until you dont need to heal the whole fight

[trim hawk]

||currently for ab I just leave soul as emergency d.dive charge||

[trim hawk]

||I mean once you do ascended you're probably not too far off radiant for most cases||

[dire burrow]

Wait that means I only need to practice like 9 of them

[trim hawk]

||assuming you weren't face tanking everything or healing a ton||

||I just straight up do not heal when doing HoG||

[dire burrow]

||I can beat like 30 something of them without needing to heal that much||

[drowsy yarrow]

It's good to get used to spending ||soul|| as soon as you have it for ||ab||

[keen stream]

if those bosses can kill you within 30s, yes

[keen stream]

thats alr good

[trim hawk]

as long as I'm comfortable doing so on the boss

[keen stream]

just try to play cautiously once you get past ||hornet2||

[stone trellis]

is the ||weird looking big cocoon in the ||||waterways|| dangerous

[dire burrow]

||Honestly the only bosses i really struggle with is like Markoth, Zote, Uumuu if I’m not locked in enough and uhhh i forgor, maybe Lost Kin but that’s a stretch||

[trim hawk]

potentially if you're super weak I guess

[keen stream]

i straight up die here

not even a fight

its a one sided beating

[dire burrow]

It’s just bullet hell

[ruby shuttle]

basically yeah

[stone trellis]

nah im built diffrent

[trim hawk]

play some touhou and come back

[dire burrow]

You can’t really adapt to it except just using your eyes

[keen stream]

||umu|| is uhm... a fckn hot spring

[trim hawk]

and like I swear there's some vague pattern to them

[keen stream]

thats weird..

[ruby shuttle]

not really, they just bounce off of surfaces and shoot every few seconds

[keen stream]

||umu|| didnt get flagged as spoiler