hk-help

[terse kernel]

They spoiler ke for saying this

[thick wing]

first of all i wasn't going to interact with the community at all if it weren't for this channel and this server was not the only place where i received spoilers of the game, i infact received a lot of spoilers from people sending unsolicited media in places that had nothing to do with hk

[split fox]

||I remember on my first playtrough i fought that thing with nail 0 and no spells 💔||

[thick wing]

need i say more?

[solid heart]

Who?

[karmic glade]

why would you

[terse kernel]

|| lost kin my beloved||

[acoustic sigil]

Yeah the random off topic convos are not helping the help atmosphere

[terse kernel]

One of the most fun bosses to fight

[split fox]

I didnt know where to upgrade ||nail|| and thought ||spells|| are bad

[acoustic sigil]

(Hint hint)

[terse kernel]

Jokes on you took me || 2 hours to get vengeful spirit and to discover greenpath 3||

[thick wing]

lowkey wish i could lobotomize myself every time i saw a spoiler of the game so i would forget it tbh

[terse kernel]

This game dosent really give you hints on what to do

[solid heart]

An idea: rename yourself in this server to something like Valkyrie (NO SPOILERS at all please)

[terse kernel]

Basically how it felt with undertale

[terse kernel]

Genius

[split fox]

If i was you i would play the game without joining the server
But getting spoiled without anything you can do about it is annoying, even though i didnt experience that much

[acoustic sigil]

That should be the norm in this channel

[solid heart]

Maybe people who don't know won't give strong hints

[solid heart]

Yeah, but people exceed on what's an accidental spoiler

[acoustic sigil]

Also people never read usernames

Case in point

?tag noping

[languid radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462200562620825600/919850262959640596/dontpingplz.png

[solid heart]

That's why caps, they shine

[thick wing]

nononono this server was responsible for the LEAST spoilers i got of this game
i had people send me unsolicited media of like endgame content i believe or crucial parts of the game in places that had nothing to do with the game "for the fuck of it"

[solid heart]

Ah

[solid heart]

Srry

[terse kernel]

No swearing please

We are familly friendly here

[acoustic sigil]

In case you hadn't noticed,you've fallen right in my trap

[split fox]

you told them you didnt want any spoilers beforehand?

[terse kernel]

[acoustic sigil]

Fuck

[terse kernel]

D:

[thick wing]

well i mean not really but my point still stands if i received spoilers then i cant' do shit about it other than try to forget

[solid heart]

We can swear here

[terse kernel]

Oh fr?

[solid heart]

It's not against the rules lol

[terse kernel]

Welp

Booty

[solid heart]

Or at least last time I checked

[terse kernel]

(Am I cool)

[thick wing]

i'm not gonna go everywhere and ask people NOT to spoil the game as if they even knew about the game and had the intention to post about it to begin with

[terse kernel]

People should join these kinda of servers after doing the main story line

No spoilers then

[acoustic sigil]

No people shouldn't spoil things in the help channel

[mighty crow]

Hey don’t fucking swear. 😁

[acoustic sigil]

It's not terribly complicated

[terse kernel]

Walkthroughs exists

[thick wing]

if it weren't for this server i would've still been on ||mantis lords||

[acoustic sigil]

Gives unwanted spoilers with such a non linear game

[split fox]

Oh yea i remember those bastards..

[thick wing]

i think that would've spoiled a lot more than intended

[terse kernel]

Thats fucking rude

[acoustic sigil]

Few days ago

[terse kernel]

Meh if you search how to get an [item] they would just tel you how

[mighty crow]

And that’s fucking rude, 😁

[thick wing]

coolest fight in the game i totally didn't get them spoiled ||as a later boss in the game||

[terse kernel]

No FUCKING problem 😄

[split fox]

Dont use anything but Hk until you completly finish the game and get every ending 👍

[solid heart]

like 5 days ago or something

[split fox]

yea i got that spoiled too, but it was my fault lol

[terse kernel]

I got spoiled too once

[split fox]

still was fun as hell after spoilers

[terse kernel]

Meh

[terse kernel]

Fr

[thick wing]

youtube recommendations showing me hk videos when i decided to watch NO HK CONTENT AT ALL

not a SINGLE video

[solid heart]

It's gone through many phases, it used to delete sstraight up and also for some time "mistake" was banned lol

[mighty crow]

It just sucks that it got to the point where we needed a spoiler bot

[thick wing]

but because of the ss hype

i did

[solid heart]

yeah...

[terse kernel]

Like who cares that I saw || every ending before even doing dream no more ending lol||

[split fox]

Had the same situation but before ss hype so im guessing its worse for you than for me

I didnt get spoiled tho so idk

I js saved every video for later

[thick wing]

i swear i've had multiple games spoiled to me like ultrakill, undertale and terraria (alongside calamity)

[acoustic sigil]

It didn't get to a point, the amount of unspoilered content has been at a constant for a long time

[terse kernel]

You know what guys? It all matters about the knights we made along the way

[thick wing]

everywhere i went it's impossible to avoid spoilers whether you try to or not

[sharp veldt]

Thats just how the internet is

[split fox]

i didnt get spoiled much on any game unless i actively choose to

[obtuse hedge]

the bosses that i got spoiled were only dlc and hidden ones

[thick wing]

got spoiled on the ||second hornet encounter somewhat, not where she's fought or how she'd look or the fight itself but the general piece of information that she will come back sometime soon|| the fight was still dope as fuck

[terse kernel]

Nah bc how tf am I suppused to find || gorgeous husk or the big that fixes the board without a guide?||

[thick wing]

i also got spoiled about something called ||Pantheons||, no idea what those are thankfully

[mighty crow]

I chose to watch mossbag before playing the game, I regret it and also not because otherwise I wouldn’t have beaten it

[terse kernel]

Hollow knight hides things really well

[terse kernel]

Save your mind before you start

[split fox]

I knew she would come back beacuse in the ||journal|| it said one more encounter

[thick wing]

and also quite possibly ||the true final boss of the game??? i dont know||

[terse kernel]

I lost so much free time on them

[terse kernel]

Meh

[thick wing]

i somewhat figured that out

[terse kernel]

Not really

[ruby shuttle]

guys, this is not the channel for this

[acoustic sigil]

Spoiler tags

[acoustic sigil]

And yes what he said

Go to #hk-general or something

[solid heart]

Sucks not getting spoiled is a hassle

[thick wing]

domething something ||radiance|| and i'e seen way too many images of it on youtube thumbnails whatever though idfk i'll stop || false champion|| right

[ruby shuttle]

if you dont have questions either stop talking or get out

[thick wing]

i'll pour in one more attempt i'm getting tired

[terse kernel]

Actually she is mentioned a lot of times and shown before

As statues ofc

[buoyant flame]

What is the ||entire family of the knight||? (I know ||that hornet is the sister and i think the hollow knight is the brother||)

[thick wing]

couldnt tell

[mighty crow]

Go to lore section for this

[thick wing]

i cant wait to see the ||true ending|| regardless

[buoyant flame]

Oh ok

[terse kernel]

|| white lady is the mom pale king the dad and all the vessels are the siblings hence the name sibling in hunters journal||

[thick wing]

the main ||ending|| was so fucking emotional i almost cried it was that good
i felt bad for the ||hollow knight|| but atleast you take his place and put him to rest

[acoustic sigil]

Sleep is a term

[terse kernel]

He died

Short simple

Dead

[buoyant flame]

Since when is it 15 seconds?

[thick wing]

must not be so lively

[acoustic sigil]

Yesterday

[terse kernel]

Remeber || vessels don’t have emotions||

[karmic glade]

will not say anything

[thick wing]

or comfortable for him to have ||the infection|| hold him alive like that

[terse kernel]

He can’t feel actually

[thick wing]

still can't help but feel bad

[terse kernel]

Technically he wasn’t pure

But that’s not the channel for this

That’s huge spoilers

Snd I don’t wanna spoil

[thick wing]

im not too sure about the lore so i wont talk about it

[terse kernel]

I can explain it but it has spoilers

[thick wing]

im really into it though

[thick wing]

yeah ofc im gonna finish the game and get the ||true ending|| first

[mighty crow]

Go to the lore section for this!

[terse kernel]

Oh Erne

[mighty crow]

Talk lore in lore place

[terse kernel]

That will take actually a bit

Like a really long

[thick wing]

i know, i'm already 40 hours into this save

[acoustic sigil]

<@&283547423706447872> continues off topic talk

Continuous

[terse kernel]

Right my bad

[ruby shuttle]

I was about to do the same thing, you beat me to it

[thick wing]

quick question about these extras are they already in the game or do you have to manually insert them

[ruby shuttle]

they are already in

[mighty crow]

Already in game

[thick wing]

okay

[deft glade]

Already in the game, you've probably seen some stuff in-game relating to it

[ruby shuttle]

especially for ||lifeblood||

[thick wing]

true

[obtuse mist]

Aren’t supposed to

[icy drum]

Who’s that hardest boss in the game? ||Radiant /non radiant||

[acoustic sigil]

||Absrad||

[obtuse mist]

||Absolute radiance easily||

[icy drum]

Boring answer

[obtuse mist]

For both

[icy drum]

Oh

Ok

[acoustic sigil]

Boring questions get boring answers

[obtuse mist]

What did you want me to say ||massive moss charger||?

[icy drum]

||Daytime empress of light||

[obtuse mist]

Light work

[icy drum]

Agree

Goopy cuphead

[versed heart]

Trivialized if you use ||zenith||

[obtuse mist]

Tbh cuphead isn’t as difficult as some people say. After the first playthrough I can get most of the bosses down pretty easily

[icy drum]

Well yeah but try lawnmower lol

[obtuse mist]

When you compare it to games like Celeste and hollow knight I disagree from there

[acoustic sigil]

Does this look like #any-game-other-than-hk-help

[icy drum]

Celeste is easier than cuphead imo, or I’m just really bad at cuphead

[versed heart]

||radiant absrad|| is the hardest thing ive done in any game

[obtuse mist]

Briefly

[acoustic sigil]

That's strange cause it's not supposed to

[icy drum]

Thommie what is hollow knight

[obtuse mist]

That’s crazy

[acoustic sigil]

A videogame

[icy drum]

Ok guys I need help ||I am stuck on some big moss charger, he’s absolutely MASSIVE. Can anyone help? I have DD if that helps at all ||

[versed heart]

"mods"

[deft glade]

||Just died to Failed Champion in P5, any tips with how long the stagger lasts?||

[icy drum]

Me when typo

[cosmic stag]

1 word: "||pogo||"

[mighty crow]

What ||charms|| do you have?

[obtuse mist]

You can loop it

[acoustic sigil]

||Pogo his shell after 1 dream nail/heal||

[versed heart]

||You can perma stagger him when he is staggered by hitting the back of his body, and just dreamnail and you can also heal to full||

[deft glade]

Will that work?

[icy drum]

Guys that was a joke

[acoustic sigil]

Yes otherwise I wouldn't tell you it

[deft glade]

Back like legs or top of body?

[versed heart]

Anywhere except the head

[deft glade]

Thank you!

[versed heart]

||Makes the fight a great time to reset and prep for the next boss while getting full health and soul||

[deft glade]

Elaborate on perma stagger?

[acoustic sigil]

There isn't much more to it

[deft glade]

Would it kill him after a while?

[acoustic sigil]

No

[versed heart]

Not if you just hit the shell

[acoustic sigil]

You just stall the continuation of the fight

[deft glade]

Thank you!

||Would hitting the shell during stagger give Soul?||

[acoustic sigil]

||No, but you can dreamnail it for infinite soul||

[obtuse mist]

But yeah I’ve played around with it and you don’t wanna get greedy. Only do what you want to do a single time before ||extending the stagger||

Wether healing or ||dreamnailing||

[versed heart]

||I think you can heal twice but if you wanna be safe just do one then reset it again||

[deft glade]

||Tried Dreamnailing the head and he got up after a bit, will the shell be different?||

[obtuse mist]

Yeah you can but in ||p5|| I wouldn’t take that chance

[acoustic sigil]

||No you have to hit the shell after every dreamnail to reset the timer||

[versed heart]

Is it this hard

[obtuse mist]

||dream nailing doesn’t stall, you do it to gain more soul. Slashing his shell stalls||

And also you wanna ||dreamnail closer to the body||

[versed heart]

||Just keep hitting his butt if you want to prove that it resets his stagger time||

[ebon copper]

you can do 2 hits

also 2 heals

[versed heart]

||With dream wielder you can get full soul in one cycle i think||

[ebon copper]

ye, you can hit 3 times i belive

[deft glade]

Will practice these strategies in ||Hall of Gods||

[obtuse mist]

Good

[sleek rapids]

imagine ||p5|| put ||failed champion|| earlier and it just went straight from ||gpz/markoth|| to ||nkg||

[ruby socket]

||p4|| is easy

[solid heart]

That'd suck, but honestly ||NKG is easier than the first phase of failed champ that you can't cheese||

[sleek rapids]

True

As long as you're consistent at least

[ruby socket]

||ngk radiant|| is lowkey ez

[shut sparrow]

I love ||ngk||

[sleek rapids]

||nightmare Grimm king||

[leaden brook]

||would you consider watcher knights hard?||

[solid heart]

Yes

Honestly, they are one of the most consistently hard bosses out there

Play it slow, ||he likes to teleport a lot||

You can get a heal when he's doing the ||dash with the orbs around him, jump over one time and stay in the middle||

[hexed copper]

thanks at least someone did see my msg lol

[fierce fjord]

Yes very

[solid heart]

But try to use your ||vengeful spirit, it does 3x the damage of your nail, and in this fight the range helps a lot||

[hexed copper]

alr im gonna give it one more try

[leaden brook]

||took me 8 tries to defeat them, all 6, crazy armadillos.||

[solid heart]

It took me 22 lol

[leaden brook]

@fierce fjord

[fierce fjord]

Wow that's impressive took ne like countless of times

[leaden brook]

bro It was meant to be that way huh

[solid heart]

Yes

[leaden brook]

damn

[solid heart]

Now if I get hit to them it's skill issue

[fierce fjord]

But after i practice allot i never lost to ||watcher knights|| again

Except ||radiant||

[leaden brook]

||lurian is dead, I think I killed the first dreamer. Dunno who dreamers are, but I just know they are called dreamers lol.||

[solid heart]

A wait, no, ||watchers took me 34, soul master 22 and hornet 27|| or something close to them t least

I remember ||watchers|| were in the 30s

[leaden brook]

With the right strats, they can be defeated. Yes

[fierce fjord]

I dont have any build when i fought them

[solid heart]

With enough practice I now get them hitless probably ||90% of my R5 runs ish||

[fierce fjord]

I have like 1 ||nail|| upgrade and a ||vengeful spirit||

[solid heart]

I kinda want those numbers in my spreadsheet now ngl

[fierce fjord]

I dunno what's a ||pale ore|| when i fought those tank

[leaden brook]

||I was simply using quick focus, long nail, the grub one, and one more which kind of keeps you at your position when hit by an enemy. It worked out for broken vessel too.||

[solid heart]

Oh dang, 3.3% of my hits come from ||watchers||, runwise it's obviously higher, but it's pretty good

[leaden brook]

||I was on second upgrade of my nail too.||

[fierce fjord]

Oh i dont know what's a ||grub|| do before i fight them

[leaden brook]

They did frustrate me a lot man

[fierce fjord]

I literally dont have build when i fought them

[leaden brook]

||regen soul when hit by an enemy ig.||

[fierce fjord]

It was soo frustrating

[leaden brook]

I get you man

[fierce fjord]

I have like 5 ||mask||

[leaden brook]

||had 6||

[fierce fjord]

Im surprised to this day i still didn't give up beating them without giving up and get upgrades

[leaden brook]

I spent a lot of time discovering areas.

[solid heart]

With my 30 something tries I had way better gear than both you 💀

I really was that bad

[leaden brook]

Massive W, you earned it.

[leaden brook]

ahahaaha

[fierce fjord]

I have like no ||charm|| idk how to equip them😭

[leaden brook]

Bruhhhhhh

Glad I technically learned about them. So I was being very selective.

||with charms||

[fierce fjord]

Idk how many attempts but

[bitter ermine]

a

[fierce fjord]

It took me 2 hours to beat them

[leaden brook]

Took me like 45 mins

[fierce fjord]

I guess it helps me a lot with my combat skills

||Hollow knight|| was my first ||metroidvania game||

And i also play it on mobile

So its super challenging

[solid heart]

I really was that bad

[leaden brook]

||mfs straight up coming at me one after another in between bad positioning, man when I defeated them, I didn't even believe myself. I defeated them an hour ago.||

[solid heart]

PC, ||6 masks, nail 2, dive and vs, ok charms I don't remember, wings||

[leaden brook]

oh man

[solid heart]

Over 2 hours as well

[leaden brook]

||oh yea wings too, also I don't even use desolate dive lmaooo.||

Totally forgot to use it.

[solid heart]

I just didn't know how to use ||spells properly||

I casted them at kinda random

[fierce fjord]

Idk what's a ||spell|| back then

Im literally clueless

[leaden brook]

||where should I head next? Deep nest? Lmao when cornifer was hiding, It was hilarious||

[solid heart]

Idk, show me your map and inv, I can give you ideas

But yeah, ||that corny spot is the best||

[leaden brook]

Bro I closed the game, I played so much I can't.

[fierce fjord]

||Deepnest|| im planning to get a endgame upgrades before going to ||deepnest|| i wanna 100% explore ||deepnest||

[leaden brook]

||I defeated mantis lords, broken vessel, that crystal peak mini boss who shoots lasers from multiple directions, dung defender, watcher knight. Today itself.||

[solid heart]

You're probably going to end up doing multiple trips tho

[fierce fjord]

What i meant is when i go into the ||deepnest|| i will get everything and when i go out i will never enter the place again

That's what i meant

[solid heart]

That's a whole lot of progression, wow

[solid heart]

I promise you you will do multiple trips eventually lol

You can do all of it in one go, but you need to know how beforehand

[fierce fjord]

I did 100% ||deepnest|| its the only map i purchased

[leaden brook]

||back tracking is a necessity in HK.||

[solid heart]

Yeah

[fierce fjord]

Yep first hand you need to go the ||mask shard entrance||

[fierce fjord]

So i do nit need to go out and circle my way back

[leaden brook]

||how much game have you completed @fierce fjord , pls tell me without spoilers. I only defeated lurien the watcher at the moment.||

[fierce fjord]

109%

[leaden brook]

alr alr

Given my progression, can you tell me how much I might have completed.

[fierce fjord]

About 50%

When i Beat the final boss i thought im already like at 90%

[queen viper]

i was stuck at 109% for like forever 😔

good luck on ur road to 112

[fierce fjord]

But i was on 69%

I was like hiw

HOW

[leaden brook]

||Also, I heard a lot that HK's lore goes deep, like really deep. Is it an exaggeration or Is it genuinely good? I still haven't explored the lore itself. I will do so after game completion.||

[fierce fjord]

Oh i can do 110 like rn if i banish the troupe

[queen viper]

ohh ok

[obtuse mist]

Yea this game has quite a lot

[queen viper]

i just got to 110% like 30 minutes

[leaden brook]

good luck @fierce fjord

[fierce fjord]

Its deep but im too dumb to know anything

[queen viper]

its pretty deep

there are a lot of youtube videos on the lore

but you will probably get confused if u watch them

just wait until u beat the game

[leaden brook]

yea except I controlled myself coz SPOILERS.

[solid heart]

Progression is really hard to measure. If you send a screenshot of your inventory, map and|| charms|| and tell me what bosses you have fought, I can tell you your exact %, but it also isn't a good metric to tell actual amount of completition. The fact you have ||1 dreamer already, wings, and other stuff suggests you're in a good place tho||

[queen viper]

bro i got spoiled so muchh

although there were a few parts of the game that didnt get spoiled and i still had a lot of fun

[leaden brook]

hahaha, buying hollow knight was the greatest decision man. Loving it so much.

[queen viper]

now I know to not watch any youtube videos about silksong when it comes out so i dont get spoiled

[queen viper]

yep same

[turbid hawk]

I have a question regarding the ||dream nail||

||Does essence go away after I talk to the seer?||

[leaden brook]

I will send it to you genio

[queen viper]

no

it should stay

[solid heart]

Wasn't your game closed? Lol

[turbid hawk]

Awesome

[leaden brook]

It is, that's why later.

[obtuse mist]

You only lose it by ||using dreamgates, which every teleport costs you….ONE ESSENCE 😱 ||

[queen viper]

yep

[mighty crow]

How?

[fierce fjord]

Idk frame perfect

[queen viper]

looks like they are on the very very edge

so they wont take damage

[mighty crow]

Apparently

Impressive, nice job

[leaden brook]

||@solid heart I am only left with 10-11 grubs left to be rescued.||

[solid heart]

Spikes are manually added and TC oftentimes overlook small gaps in the corners, there are multiple of these in game and one was used in a real Speedrun category

[fierce fjord]

I just got there by accident cuz i was trying the spike skip

[fierce fjord]

||path of pai||

[solid heart]

Yes

[fierce fjord]

I watch that one fireborn video XD

[solid heart]

Good old thorn skip

[mighty crow]

I think I found that place myself, after lever, right?

[fierce fjord]

I cannot even pass the first section

[leaden brook]

Wait how ? Damn

[fierce fjord]

Just beat ||soul master||

[obtuse mist]

Noice

[solid heart]

@leaden brook

[fierce fjord]

Krazy i just started this morning

[mighty crow]

Well done!

[leaden brook]

Interesting man

[leaden brook]

W, annoying af

[fierce fjord]

Still trying to attempt beating ||pure vessel||

[fierce fjord]

Why?

[obtuse mist]

Rn I’m trying to get ||112% steel soul|| and there’s only 2 things that make me a bit nervous. ||colo 3 and the last couple enemies for the Grimm troupe||

[leaden brook]

||soul master was annoying I mean||

[obtuse mist]

I know I can do them but it’s still a bit scary

[fierce fjord]

It took me 2m beat him

[mighty crow]

Good luck!

[leaden brook]

too pro

[fierce fjord]

Just get the ||melody||

[obtuse mist]

The last time I did ||steel soul|| I lost to ||that asshole Grimm troupe enemy that deals double damage||

[leaden brook]

that too on mobile damn

[fierce fjord]

Its worth it since you're on ||steel soul||

[obtuse mist]

Do I not need to beat those other enemies?

[queen viper]

good luck

[fierce fjord]

You can just banish it

[mighty crow]

If you go the other way, you don’t need to kill any of the biggest guys

[queen viper]

oops

[obtuse mist]

Oh shit imma just do that then

[obtuse mist]

This won’t happen again

[leaden brook]

||Deepnest It is, tomorrow.||

good night

[fierce fjord]

And ||carefree melody|| is soo useful in trying not to die

[mighty crow]

True

[obtuse mist]

Yeah I’m never using that

Never have never will

[mighty crow]

Night!

[obtuse mist]

I’m not relying on chance

[queen viper]

bro i keep forgetting to put spoiler tags 😭

[leaden brook]

I did that too XD

[solid heart]

Good progress

[fierce fjord]

Well same i just dont want to get the last flames

[fierce fjord]

Soo risky

But its easy to beat them

[solid heart]

Good night

[fierce fjord]

Just dont upgrade your ||nail||

[queen viper]

i heard its good for || radiant bosses || if u have extra || charm notches ||

[mighty crow]

And annoying

[solid heart]

Not really, too expensive

You have to really know how to get value off of it

Or play ||anyrad||

[fierce fjord]

I dont use it too but i might try it on ||Radiance||

[obtuse mist]

It takes up 3 for a very small chance of not getting hit. I rather just not get hit

[mighty crow]

It can sometimes help with learning fights

[solid heart]

It's not useless, but almost always you can get something better

Unless it's ||Anyrad|| lol

[mighty crow]

What’s that?

[solid heart]

The impossible boss

Never heard of it?

[obtuse mist]

||Modded radiance||

[mighty crow]

I have, just been a minute since I’ve heard of it

[solid heart]

Well, it's essencial for any iteration of the fight

Up to 3.0

[fierce fjord]

Beating ||soul master|| using ||howling wraiths|| is awesome

[bright sorrel]

free 😼

[olive mirage]

[pale anvil]

||Guys this big egg thing just opened what do I do?||

||I’m scared of the dark….||

[obtuse mist]

||You arrived at the final boss. There’s a bench you’ll see before you see the boss. If you feel ready then you can enter, and Godspeed.||

[pale anvil]

||Is that my brother?||

[obtuse mist]

Basically

[pale anvil]

||I gotchu homie||

Guys ||the hollow knight|| just clapped me

[bright sorrel]

u dont need to flood the channel with a play-by-play 😭

[radiant raft]

Don’t judge the new people

[bright sorrel]

[radiant raft]

[bright sorrel]

PENGUIN PUSH

[pale anvil]

Chat how many hits does ||the hollow knight|| roughly take to kill with a ||coiled nail||?

[sleek rapids]

I'ma be honest, that's not something you need help with, it's common sense to enter it

[pale anvil]

Well idk I was just wondering if I enter it yet or I had to wait for something. I know now I don’t

[sleek rapids]

Oh...yeah that makes sense then

[drowsy yarrow]

I just realized that I can cast ||shade soul|| at the same time as a ||nail swing|| if I use my ||focus|| button instead of ||quick cast||, otherwise I have to wait for the cooldown

[pale anvil]

These are my ||charms|| for the fight. Should I keep them or equip different ones?

[fierce fjord]

Nice progress

Time to get ||wings||

[prime horizon]

what fight?

[pale anvil]

||the hollow knight||

[prime horizon]

id say its pretty decent. ||thk|| isnt the most difficult, but those are also just really good charms

[hoary anvil]

those are all good ones. ||quick focus|| is also good if you think it would be useful

[pale anvil]

[phone] call it. I dare you

[hoary anvil]

no

[gleaming carbon]

its going to somehow give you a virus or something lol

[pale anvil]

Nah it won’t trust

Plus how does a number give you a virus? That’s not even possible!

[hoary anvil]

it will, however, leak your phone number to a stranger on the internet

[pale anvil]

Fine don’t call it then if your so scared

[sleek rapids]

I feel like that would fit better for #hk-general since that's more of flexing than asking for help

[fierce fjord]

I mean its a skip so i think it helps others maybe

[sleek rapids]

Fair

[fierce fjord]

Maybe this one is a flex?

[inner robin]

What

[solid heart]

Don't you mean the other way around?

[opaque quarry]

||I just beat grimm now i need charms for radiance. any ideas (basically the hollow knight equivilent of a summoner main btw) and what charms should i get????||

[solid heart]

You beat ||Grimm, with THAT?!||

[sleek rapids]

When a terraria player plays hollow knight

[opaque quarry]

no i used ||quick focus||

[opaque quarry]

correct

[solid heart]

||Summoners are pure garbage sadly, we all love Grimothy and spidies, but they don't do shit, which is quite sad to see :(||

[opaque quarry]

they do things for me. ||carried me though so many bosses||

[prisma creek]

You can improve ||grimmchild|| one more time btw same place just keep going right once you are inside

[opaque quarry]

i know

[sleek rapids]

And ||glowing womb|| is absolute garbage

[ebon copper]

some charms just give you more confidence

i get it

[solid heart]

||Radiance is waaaaay harder than Grimm, I'd suggest Shaman stone and learn how to use spells because they do wonders against her. You still don't have unbreakable strength, but once you do it is completely overpowered. Quick slash is good but you need skill to get it against rad, Mark of pride is good as well. Otherwise any 2 notch charm should do (twister, catcher or Longnail are best) you can bring weavers but only paired with grubsong for the combo||

[fierce fjord]

Actually its useful against||broken vessel||

[opaque quarry]

wtf

i never pressed a reaction

[ebon copper]

||glowing womb|| wouldnt be bad if there would be a hotkey to turn it on or off

[sleek rapids]

Not even against ||broken vessel|| for me, ||Grimmchild|| decides to be stupid and attack ||broken vessel|| while he's staggered AND THERES LITERALLY AN || INFECTED BALLOON|| RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME

[fierce fjord]

||defenders crest, weaver song, grubsong and glowing womb|| and just stay at the left top corner||

[opaque quarry]

||or if it only happened while using spells||

[fierce fjord]

There you go hitless² ||Broken vessel||

[ebon copper]

u dont need extra help with ||bv||, this is like the cope ppl say for ||heavy blow||

[ebon copper]

i cant really see what you mean, but sure

[fierce fjord]

You never hit him he never hit you

[opaque quarry]

||like if you spawned babies when you did a spell about 2-4||

[ebon copper]

the problem with ||summons|| is that they cut your dps

[opaque quarry]

explain

[ebon copper]

that would still be kinda bad

[solid heart]

They have enough damage to justify in the midgame. But I'll give you some stats for ||Radiance
She has a total of 1.7k hp, your grimm does 9 damage (189 hits or .5% of her hp) and your weavers do 3 (569 hits or .1% of her hp). And because of her nature they will miss, a lot.
They can hold off against targets that don't fly and have less than 700 ish hp, lategame is just too much for them||

[solid heart]

But you're using ||womb and crest together which makes womb even worse||

[opaque quarry]

i only use them bc ||grubsong combo is goodish||

[solid heart]

Yeah, that's actually quite good

[sleek rapids]

I did try the summoner build in a ||pantheon|| tho, the DPS actually isn't half bad

[fierce fjord]

||Quick slash, shaman, unbreakable Strength|| holy Trinity build

[solid heart]

Exactly

[fierce fjord]

But it helps keeps the infected blob away from you

[ebon copper]

||glowing womb takes up 2 slots that could be used for stuff that improves your dmg actively, meanwhile it eats away at your soul for less dmg than you would do with spell multihits,
grimmchids horibly inaccurate, and on the offchance that it actually snipes something it does about a nailhits worth of dmg every like 4 seconds, but since its so inaccurate, it will prob go down to like 10+
than there are the weaverlings, as much as i like them they are sadly horrible dps, increasing your dmg output by less than 10%, meanwhile they take up 2 slots||

[sleek rapids]

Should I do every ||pantheon all bindings|| before silksong

[ebon copper]

i dont really wanna do 3-5

maybe ill end up doing them anyway

[sleek rapids]

Yeah, it looks cool but I bet it's absolute torture

[ebon copper]

ye, the difficulty jumps a lot after the 2nd

[sleek rapids]

Oh right I only have the first ||two pantheons EB||

[ebon copper]

is that short for separate ||bindings||?

[sleek rapids]

||every binding|| and I have 0 ||bindings|| on the other three

[stoic cedar]

||ive been grinding p5ab for a bit, and its a huge pain and sometimes very demotivating. my pb is markoth, somehow i died to markoth going into the fight with 4 lifeblood masks. so now i dont really feel like doing p5ab runs at the moment, i literally grinded all of ab radhog to put off doing actual p5ab runs lmfao||

[ebon copper]

makes sense, id recommend you at least do them separately to even see the difficulty

doing them all at once is quite the difficulty spike

[ebon copper]

||ab radhog|| genuienly sounds worse

[sleek rapids]

Yeah...Ill just stick with ||EB|| then

[ebon copper]

ye, it really aint the same

...

[sleek rapids]

Wait do I get the ||weathered mask|| for ||EB||

[ebon copper]

yes

[sleek rapids]

Bettt

[stoic cedar]

nah, its really demotivating to die like an hour into a ||p5ab|| run and doing the same easy bosses over and over again until u die to certain chokepoints like ||collector||, at least for ||ab radhog|| once u beat a boss u dont have to do it again, and anyways its good practice

[sleek rapids]

I'll just hope I have enough time to do that AND ||rHoG||

[ebon copper]

not that many ppl did ||ab|| in comparison, in all fairness prob basically noone does ||eb|| eighter

its like way bellow a %

[sleek rapids]

I still can't believe it's only 5% of players that did ||p5|| steam is clearly lying to me

[ebon copper]

i dont even want to try ||ab radabsrad||

[stoic cedar]

Oh that one took me 30 hrs, it’s pretty much the only boss that I really didn’t enjoy grinding ||ab radiant||

[solid heart]

Not really, I've already done most of them during practice. Actually, the only one I think I haven't done is ||Markoth|| lol

[fierce fjord]

@solid heart

[ebon copper]

i did r||adabsrad|| 3 times till now

and all of them were at least somewhat painful

but now im kinda consistent if i set my min to it

[solid heart]

Honestly, I love ||playing RadAbsRad for fun||

[sleek rapids]

I still don't get why ||markoth|| gets so much harder just because they take away the floor

[solid heart]

Some bosses just change after a while of doing them lol

[stoic cedar]

||bruh I feel like rad ab absrad is like way harder than rad ab markoth||

[solid heart]

That takes a while, but yeah, it's a 🧀

[fierce fjord]

The floor is lava

[fierce fjord]

3 minutes to be exact

[solid heart]

I have a rab ||absrad|| video in my laptop actually lol, I did it yesterday for fun, took me 10 tries. But I did it in my car in a horrible position first try somehow

[stoic cedar]

Yea sometimes I just try to get speed kills on ||rad absrad|| for fun, too bad I’m not good at nail turnarounds so I’m not actually that fast lol

[ebon copper]

at this point im mostly fine with it too ye

[stoic cedar]

||yea rad absrad is fun, rad ab absrad on the other hand sucks so much||

[solid heart]

Well, ||Absrad is the one boss where turnarounds are free, because you can do it on top of her with upslash||

[solid heart]

It's fun too

You know what's not fun? 04

[stoic cedar]

Ig I just have a skill issue, it took me 30 hrs to get the first time and I never wanna do it again lol

[solid heart]

Like, almost no boss is fun 04

[solid heart]

I mean, it's incredibly hard lol

[solid heart]

Yet some people find ||Collector 04 fun, and even worse conditions||

[stoic cedar]

I can never understand ||collector|| players, the stuff they do is just masochistic lmao

[solid heart]

Yet I want to do 045 after ||anyrad|| (help me)

[stoic cedar]

Can’t help u if u r willingly doing it urself lol

[solid heart]

Yeah lol

[fierce fjord]

Wdym ||collector|| player?

[ebon copper]

i feel like every fight becomes fun if you want it to be hard enough

[fierce fjord]

||zote well never be fun||

[solid heart]

Yes it is fun

[ebon copper]

like it takes a special kind of person to enjoy ||rad ab absrad||, its all about how hard you lie to yourself

[solid heart]

Players who play ||the collector|| with ever increasing stupidly hard challenge conditions

[ebon copper]

||zote||s not simular difficulty to ||absrad|| ngl...

[fierce fjord]

Oh you mean when ||the collector|| spawning bosses?

[stoic cedar]

||some crazy ppl have put crazy restrictions on themselves while playing against collector, this could include stuff like old nail, white spells, etc. as the damage of ur nail and spells decrease the adds that collector spawns become exponentially harder to deal with||

[solid heart]

The race to get iR||Collector||

[fierce fjord]

Imagine if the ||collector|| starting spawning ||pure vessel||

[solid heart]

There's a mod where ||Absrad spawns Marmus instead of orbs...||

[fierce fjord]

Bruh

[wary gust]

||marmu|| is already my worst nightmare

[stoic cedar]

R there ppl who r seriously attempting that?!?! If so what’s the progress on that

[solid heart]

Teano reached below 300 last time I checked

[stoic cedar]

Ofc it’s teano

[solid heart]

But there are others

I don't know who tho

[ebon copper]

the one with the invincible ||markoths||

[solid heart]

True, ||Abskoth||

[ebon copper]

its not even funny that thats possible|| radiant||

crazy that when ppl grind a game so much you can see how lenient the games creators actually were with the iframes and shit, you literarly have to get nothing perfectly

[sleek rapids]

I think the only thing that I haven't spoiled for myself in this entire game is what's inside the ||land of storms||

[ebon copper]

have fun with finding out

i still have it accessable on my main save just cause i enjoy the room more than the item inside

[stoic cedar]

I just collected it since I wanted to get ||every single journal entry|| on my save

[ebon copper]

that is reasonable, but since im not getting|| r5|| anyway, i gave up on analyzer, so no reason for me

[prisma fox]

Yall wanna see something crazy

[harsh remnant]

No.

[prisma fox]

1 sec bad internet

Nvm

[solid heart]

Wait, for this, it's the fourth EASIEST ||Radiance mod||

[ebon copper]

i mean there is 3.0

[solid heart]

There are 29...

[tawdry fiber]

How to get access to the queens tower??

[solid heart]

That's not a thing in HK, check the name again

[tawdry fiber]

:D

Love tower

[solid heart]

Ah, first spoiler that, it isn't caught by the bot.
Second, you need a special ||key||

If you want to know where to find it: ||in the queen's gardens||

[ebon copper]

damn, is ||abskoth|| actually relatively okay?

whats easier?

[solid heart]

I pinged you in #hk-discussion

[tawdry fiber]

I have that

[queen viper]

u sure its the right one

since theres several different kinds

|| there are several different kinds of keys in the game, u will need a specific one found in the queen's gardens to open the door for the love tower ||

[tawdry fiber]

Yeah i have that

[queen viper]

try going up to the door

u have to add spoiler tags to ur messages

[tawdry fiber]

Alright

[wraith orchid]

||guys how hard is p5ab anyways (I have ascended hog and a good number of radiants, i.e. am generally ok at the game) --- and how does one practice for p5ab individual bosses||

[vague cloak]

That’s the fun part you don’t

[stoic cedar]

||it is extremely hard, I would actually say that p3ab is already harder than p5 from my experience, so that should put into perspective the difficulty of p5ab. For further reference, I have about 600 hrs in the game and I haven’t even beaten p5ab yet, my pb is markoth at the moment||

||as for how you would practice for all bindings, I would suggest a mod called toggleable bindings which allows for bindings to be applied outside of pantheons||

||based on what u described about ur godhome progress I wouldn’t suggest all bindings at the moment, u should at least complete radhog and also get weathered mask before starting on p1ab to p5ab||

[modest elm]

||Pantheon 5 all bindings does several things that could be considered hurdles to cross:
-charmless+nail nerf. Being used to nail length or slash speed is a severe detriment that you need to unlearn, but the best case scenario is that your nail damage is reduced from 31 to 13, as is your spell damage and nail hit speed.

-this inflates boss health pools and forces fights to take much longer, so no steamrolling. But if a boss summons minions, there are other factors to consider. That’s for later. Tldr; a longer fight means more room for error

-4 masks of hp. 2x bosses will 2 shot you without lifeblood.

-capped soul bar. You will never hold more than 1 charge of soul. This means that banking soul for a heal opportunity or spell spam is GONE. You will choose between healing and casting, nearly every time you cast, unless you’re going hitless or on lifeblood. This can theoretically have no effect on spell dps if you cast every time, but realistically you will want to hold on to soul for ddarks and proper spell hits, so you’ll bleed a lot of soul.

-Minion summons become insane pressure on a limited resource character. The hardest bosses in the pantheon won’t be the ones at the end, but the ones that can vacuum up lifeblood easily. AB p5 collector is considered one of the hardest bosses in game, as is AR AB, because your spell economy during all phases is squashed.||

[modest elm]

Individual bosses are not always significant threats in ||P5AB. But this doesn’t mean P5AB is easier than P3 just because zote can’t be lifeblood stacked.||

[modest elm]

||You may practice for bosses by going charmless, playing on ascended, and only using spells if you’ve hit a boss 3 times after using a spell.||

It’s very difficult

[ebon copper]

i think he meant relgular ||p5||, which is most agreeable

sry for double ping, i just forgot to spoiler

[solid heart]

||nor RHoG nor P4AB compare, there is really no comparison in the vanilla experience||

It's just super duper hard

[solid heart]

I suggest you ||Finish radiant hall of gods first, then you can move on to EB (weathered mask), and slowly beat each pantheon AB until P5. It's gonna be a lengthy process, it takes months, but it's what you gotta do||

[radiant raft]

…months… what. The. Fuck. Maybe that’s a “Skong got delayed again” project

[radiant raft]

||R5?||

[solid heart]

If ||P5AB doesn't compare R5 may as well not even be even considered||

[solid heart]

I mean, that's what these challenges are lol
Also, unless you're teano, they take at least a month

[radiant raft]

[solid heart]

My itinerary is to beat ||R5 before July and Anyrad before September that Silksong probably releases (if it does earlier so be it). Just in case my "Silksong got delayed again project" is to get my hands on 045||

[ruby thicket]

After you defeat the || Dung defender what does the lever do that's connected to the green fluid? ||

[solid heart]

It's probably gonna be a massive pain

[solid heart]

Have you seen a place that he was protecting?

He left a sign

[ruby thicket]

I haven't seen any sign

[solid heart]

Well, continue exploring the ||waterways||, when you see that sign (it will be obvious which) you'll know

Although with other stuff open you'll probably want to explore other places too lol

[cerulean prism]

yes

started a fresh save just to do this

I am so good at speedrunning.

this is so arbitrary

[solid heart]

Why

[cerulean prism]

it is not

[solid heart]

Is it a time save to get ||dash||

[cerulean prism]

I am just not good enough to do skips

[solid heart]

Lol

[cerulean prism]

potential time save...

not a real category anyway

[solid heart]

I mean, ||fungal-crossroads stall ball and queen's station fireball skip are really tuff||

[hoary anvil]

lol speedrun splits for it

[solid heart]

Hear me out, we skip ||vengeful spirit and get dash||

[hoary anvil]

the fact that you took the time to set them up is amusing

[hoary anvil]

[solid heart]

I set splits for my dumb ||Fog Canyon % Speedrun||

Granted it's a 2 hour run, but

[hoary anvil]

the what ... what makes it 2 hours?

[solid heart]

The goal is to get all things possible in|| Fog canyon. ||I'm sure it can be done in maybe 1:30 to 1 hour lol

The main time consumer being||Mr. Mushrum|| really

I actually don't remember all I had routed

[hoary anvil]

ah that...

[solid heart]

Yeah, he appears once in ||Canyon|| so you gotta read it

[hoary anvil]

brain said ||not a % -> doesn't count|| lol

[solid heart]

You also need to read|| all lore tablets and get all geo rocks, max all entries of enemies that spawn there, and discover all the map||

Yeah, I was bored and came up with that lol

[hoary anvil]

inb4: ||low% all geo rocks|| or something

[solid heart]

I think I could optimize it, a lot

[hoary anvil]

||low% te|| is unaffected by ||fury route shenanigans||, right?

[solid heart]

||spells are 1% so yes||

To affect ||Low% TE we would need something that skips VS, but VS already skips 3% in wings, so it also has got to let us do White Palace||

[hoary anvil]

oh yeah, ||fury|| counts and so they probably just still use ||vs > fury||, especially considering ||stall ball||

[crystal cedar]

||hey yall, what charms should i run for hive knight?||

[hoary anvil]

depends on what you have, but if you have standard good charms they work

nothing much out of the ordinary to consider in that one

[fervent glacier]

The urge to unspoil all of the messages knowing that i will get spoiled is so strong

[hoary anvil]

[solid heart]

Yeah, I get it

[crystal cedar]

im currently running ||quick nail, mark of pride, shaman stone, and nailmasters glory||

[hoary anvil]

those are all pretty good. of note i personally don't use ||nail arts|| in the fight so ||nmg could maybe be swapped out||

-# when you press enter instead of '

[crystal cedar]

i was also wondering if ||sharp shadow is worth running at all||

[fervent glacier]

Btw what happens if you die twice without collecting the uh

||Vengful spirit or whatever it was called||

Black entity

[hoary anvil]

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[crystal cedar]

||u js lose ur geo||

pretty sure

[solid heart]

Wait yeah, the only item that is not a 100% requirement for ||TE is VS, all others are mandatory one way ore another, but VS is 1%, so this is only possible if we find a skip of the stall ball somehow||

[hoary anvil]

correct

[solid heart]

Yes

[fervent glacier]

K

[hoary anvil]

some people like it, you could use it in this one to get some damage in (although i usually just pogo whenever it would have been useful), so i would say it doesn't particularly help in this fight.

(i mainly pull it out as tech in hitless challenges due to ||longer dash|| lol)

[solid heart]

That longer ||dash would completely ruin my R5 tempo lol||

I loved it for some ||radiants tho||

[hoary anvil]

yeah, probably not a great pick for that one as you'd have to deal with all the ones that it doesn't help you on

[hoary anvil]

for me, most notably ||watcher knights|| iirc, and maybe ||oro & mato|| but i don't remember

[solid heart]

The ones where it really makes a difference are ||Oro & Mato, Watchers, Failed Champ, Sly and Mawlek, all others you can easily dash through without much thought||

[hoary anvil]

wonder how it's used on ||sly||

[civic pier]

Gm chat

[narrow crow]

i found ||gray prince zote||, it hurts to look at...

[mighty crow]

Good luck

[keen stream]

should i use ||steady body for sob||?

[hoary anvil]

curious, but are there any tells that can be used to dodge ||abs rad sword burst|| while remaining at point blank range? it may just be a memory issue, but from when i don't care about playing it safe and just stay there i think i dodge it surprisingly well, so am curious as to if my brain just picked up on a pattern for them subconsciously or something. (for sure from belowish usually, above results in falling onto it usually)

[hoary anvil]

||sob... sisters of battle||? if so, it's preference really, i never bothered with anything designated and just used a normal build, while just ||avoiding using dash unless critical||

[keen stream]

you use ||cdash|| in that fight???

[hoary anvil]

no, i just walk away

[keen stream]

oh... i misread

[hoary anvil]

nah, ||cdash|| is something i'll only really ever pull out for ||wall stalls|| on certain ones when i don't feel like using other methods, or when doing some funnies in certain arenas. (or ||traversal|| obviously)

[stoic cedar]

||wdym bt point blank range? do u mean when u r really close to abs rad in plats?||

[hoary anvil]

yeah that

(mainly that, and also the ||first wave|| in specific)

[keen stream]

i hate it when i turn around but my aim gets stuck on the other direction

idk if yall experience that too, but its weird af

[stoic cedar]

||i usually just ddark through whatever she does, like u get a feel of when shes about to attack (especially right after she teleports, shes gonna be priming up another attack). i dont think its really that consistent to try to react to that attack when u r that close to abs rad. like u could get lucky and dodge right in between the first wave of swords which makes the second wave of swords easier to react to and dodge since u know its coming, but i dont think dodging the first wave of swords is that feasible||

[hoary anvil]

-# the point was my brain says i'm better at dodging the ||first wave|| than i'm expecting for some reason, so i would take your answer to mean perception bias. makes sense, that's one that i was thinking it could potentially be.

[nocturne bison]

||if i kill radiance can i go back to the pantheons or should killing radiance be the last thing to do?||

[hoary anvil]

you can always go back to your save file, assuming you didn't get it deleted

[cerulean prism]

got the ||sub 20 mantis claw lifeblood|| impressive

||I think sub 10 is probably possible with dash skip but I tried it for a bit and it was very hard||

also still not a real category

also I should stop talking about this here this is not hollow knight help

[keen stream]

||mawlek|| gives ||mask shard||?

[radiant raft]

Yes

[stoic cedar]

yes

[keen stream]

where can i find ||qs|| again?

[hoary anvil]

||kingdom's edge, under oro's hut||

[keen stream]

and ||ismas tear|| is in ||waterways||?

[prisma creek]

Yes

[raw ridge]

Fish

[thick wing]

i hate || failed champion|| so fucking much. i hate || failed champion|| so fucking much. i hate || failed champion|| so fucking much. i hate || failed champion|| so fucking much.

[simple island]

Yes you do.

[thick wing]

i hate it so fucking much i get its difficult like many of the other bosses i fought but STILL HOW DO YOU MAKE SOMEBODY HATE A BOSS SO MUCH
take the ||hollow knight||, he took me TWO HOURS to kill and atleast i had fun unlike this dipshit right here oh my god

i hate || failed champion|| so fucking much

[keen stream]

help

i forgot where to find ||shriek||

[simple island]

I think you need to go touch grass and breathe

[thick wing]

done.

[silent glade]

gg

[thick wing]

i took multiple breaks, got schoolwork done tried to do other things and actually went outside yesterday just so i can take a break from how awful he was to fight

how can a boss be THIS bad i dont know i dont like him

[fresh wedge]

||What's the secret room in this White Palace area? Any goodies it hold?||

[keen stream]

where can i find the ||shriek||

[hoary anvil]

hmm great question ... where do you find the ||abyss shriek||... 🤔

-# unless you mean ||howling wraiths||, in which case it's ||left side fog canyon after claw||

[silent glade]

you find || abyss shriek || in that room on the left side of || Abyss || right?

[keen stream]

the first ||shriek||

[tight sequoia]

Help with ||the hollow knight? What charms to use? Special tips and techniques? ||

[silent glade]

Do you have all charms?

[keen stream]

who u fightin tho

[tight sequoia]

Enough

[keen stream]

tf you mean enough

[tight sequoia]

Most of them

[keen stream]

send it

[silent glade]

Send screenshot?

yes

[tight sequoia]

Wait

[keen stream]

i spammed nail against ||thk||

[tight sequoia]

Okay

[keen stream]

i used ||strength, qs, longnail, shaman stone||

i find it more effective compared to ||spells||

[silent glade]

I would recommend || Strength, Quickslash + Any Reach Charm (Longnail or Mark od Pride) ||

[keen stream]

since i can just hit and pass through him

[tight sequoia]

Kay

[keen stream]

just do that over and over, when he's down, use ||shriek|| to maximize the dps

[silent glade]

Do you have || Shade Cloak ||?

[tight sequoia]

Yes

All ||power ups like shriek||

[keen stream]

just nail him down, his fight lasts 1 min

[tight sequoia]

Okay

[keen stream]

hit and ||dash|| through is the tactic

[wary gust]

its super useful for ||nosk||

[thick fulcrum]

which ||spirit|| in the ||spirits glade|| is the easiest to cheese

[silent glade]

wdym

[wary gust]

none of them fight you wdym

[silent glade]

only one does

[wary gust]

the protector one

[silent glade]

You can only kill her if you || dreamnail || every other spirit

and then reenter the room

[spark trail]

||NKG HITS FOR TWO DAMAGE?!||

[silent glade]

yup

hes awesome

[spark trail]

that is insane

i hate two damage enemies

[silent glade]

hes fun but I am biased :D

[wary gust]

honestly ||grimm|| wasnt that hard once i learned his moves, easy ||radiant||

[wary gust]

try fighting him ||overcharmed||

[spark trail]

NO

[silent glade]

YES

[spark trail]

THAT IS DEATH

[silent glade]

NO

[wary gust]

hes such a fun fight

[silent glade]

real and true

[spark trail]

YOU WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO TAKE ONE HIT WITHOUGHT DYING

[wary gust]

the first time i beat him was ||overcharmed|| just because he felt too easy

[spark trail]

||i only have 8 masks, cant find the final shard||

[silent glade]

||(flower quest?)||

[spark trail]

||nope||

[silent glade]

oh

Hmm

[spark trail]

||i mean, no, i havent done the quest||

[silent glade]

ah ok

Need tipsß

?

[drowsy yarrow]

LETS GOOOOOO!!!!

[silent glade]

Holy shit

NOICE

[fresh wedge]

||Did I see Hornet at the end boss Hollow Knight if I see the Pale King at the White Palace "Path of Pain"? Or can I still see her if I just complete getting the other half of the White Fragment?||

[silent glade]

no that wasnt || hornet ||

That was the || young version of the hollow knight ||

also congrats that you did || Path of Pain ||

[fresh wedge]

||ty I was wondering i get an alternate ending if I defeat the final boss now||

[silent glade]

Nah

The cutscene is all you get

(and I think an achievement?)

[fresh wedge]

||I was hioping to see hornet||

[stoic cedar]

||path of pain does not give an achievement||

[silent glade]

Aw ok

also there are || 3 Endings where you see hornet ||

[fresh wedge]

How do yo get each of them?

I've been trying to see them all

[silent glade]

The first two ones are both by getting || voidheart || charm

The second is suffering and finishing || Pantheon 5 ||

*third

[royal skiff]

||Hi so i need help tryna beat the watcher knights. idk what charms r best and im pretty dookie at bosses so any1 got any tips?||

[broken lagoon]

i'll suggest watch a video of someone killing them, i usually understand what to do myself when i see

its difficult to explain

[stoic cedar]

send ss of charm inventory

||also what kind of spells do u have?||

[fresh wedge]

tysm

[royal skiff]

hollon how do i tag the photo on mobile

[stoic cedar]

?tag imgspoileres

[languid radish]

No tag imgspoileres found.

[royal skiff]

oh got it

[stoic cedar]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

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[royal skiff]

yes i play on switch

[stoic cedar]

||i would recommend trying to fit in shaman stone into ur build, spells are really good against watcher knights especially since u get double the value for each spell if u hit both at once||

[harsh relic]

||im ib the beasts den rn do i have to kill this guy||

[stoic cedar]

||yea the best way to get past that devout is to obviously kill it||

[harsh relic]

||how its gonna oneshot me😭 ||

[royal skiff]

||ok ill try that, i got desolate dive and the vengeful spirit as spells. what should i swap shaman stone for?||

[stoic cedar]

||just wait for it to open up, hit it once (twice is possible but risky), then immediately dash away since its gonna start charging forwards. dont try to hit it as its closed since itll just immediately charge forwards and hit u||

[harsh relic]

Ok 🙏

[stoic cedar]

||u can try shaman stone, spell twister, longnail. u will sacrifice a bit of health but the significantly increased damage output is absolutely worth it. this is a spell build tho so try to utilize spells as much as possible, dive in particular is amazing against watcher knights so try to use that whenever safe to do so, and try to hit both at once with the dive||

[quaint trench]

HOLY CRAP I JUST BET ||NKG||

my heart rate is at 134 right now.

[harsh relic]

Ok its dead ty 🙏

[royal skiff]

||Im gonna go give it a go w that combo, ill come back and lyk if i run into any problems T-T||

i died

[fresh wedge]

||What is the point of Salubra's blessing?||

[stoic cedar]

||it allows u to regenerate soul while sitting at a bench||

[fresh wedge]

oh cool ty!

[tepid meadow]

damn

[spark trail]

||NKG and radiance would be so much easier if they didnt do double damage||

[tepid meadow]

pogo over it

but that may also kill you

[spark trail]

||THE VOID DAMAGES YOU IN THE FIGHT? THATS SO STUPID-||

[fossil flower]

Fr

U lowkey unified it

[harsh relic]

I Just killed it

Wasnt that hard

Just didnt knlw how

[ruby socket]

skill issue ngl

[fresh wedge]

||Do I have to defat the Radiance to see the godhome ending?||

[acoustic sigil]

No

||But by the time you have the skills to do godhome ending, radiance is a walk in the park||

[fresh wedge]

thx!

[ruby socket]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS??

WHERE DID THE ||GRUBS|| GO

[sterile thorn]

guys got ||monarch wings yesterday and already used elegant key, do I ahve to go thru infected crossroads now to prog?||

pls

[ruby socket]

||go to kingdoms edge get the kings brand then find the abyss in basin|| @sterile thorn

[sterile thorn]

where is that?

@ruby socket

ive been there b4 but it was really small

like it was 3 seconds max

there was like a dead.. ||king|| im guessing?

[tepid meadow]

he ate all the ||grubs||

[ruby socket]

rip

[tepid meadow]

IT WAS NOT A SPOILER

:/

[ruby socket]

do you have ||ismas tear||?

[sterile thorn]

no?

[ruby socket]

then find it

[fallow perch]

More game related but,

If || Silksong is coming this year || do you think it will arrive on steam at the same tiem as nintendo?

[ruby socket]

watch a video or smth i cant explain rn

[sterile thorn]

what map?

just tell me where

[ruby socket]

prolly not

[sterile thorn]

what map

[fallow perch]

sigh..

[ruby socket]

||waterways||

[sterile thorn]

ah ok thx

[sterile thorn]

do I gotta sepnd geo for it?

[ruby socket]

nah its just a bit of platforming

[sterile thorn]

ah ok

[spark trail]

its just way too punishing in my opinion

[ruby socket]

i think its fair ngl

i mean its endgame so

it has to be hard

[spark trail]

well yeah but there other ways then effectively halving your health

[ruby socket]

try ||absrad|| i dare you

[spark trail]

||i got them to 50% health, thatsa the best ive done of 15 tries so far||

oh im only on ||Pan3||

[ruby socket]

ive done both ||ngk and radiance|| hitless tbf so i will find it easy

[ruby socket]

do you not know how to beat ||sly||?

[spark trail]

funny you think i got passed ||god tamer||

[ruby socket]

skill issue

[spark trail]

they still hard stop me every time i try

[ruby socket]

just beat ||trial of the fool||?

[spark trail]

||i HATE double bosses||

[ruby socket]

they easy

[spark trail]

||Watcher knights almost made me cry when i fought them to get to lurien||

[spark trail]

haven done that either

then again, its been a bit since ive tried

[ruby socket]

||pure nail and unbreakable strength|| makes them a cakewalk

[spark trail]

i have adhd and having to watch out for 2 bad guys at once just makes me go haywire

||so watcher knights were... hell...||

[ruby socket]

i have adhd and find it easy

what do you play on btw

[spark trail]

keyboard and mouse

[ruby socket]

oh have you tried QoL mods?

the one i use has a sane double boss feature

[spark trail]

i have the health bar one

it makes the boss fights easier on my mind

[spark trail]

WHAT

[ruby socket]

yes

[spark trail]

like

it doubles bosses?

[ruby socket]

makes them less agro

sane like not insane

[spark trail]

ah

[ruby socket]

makes double bosses less agro

really helpful

also do you use lumafly?

[spark trail]

ye

cracking open a cold one for the boys

[sterile thorn]

@ruby socket I hate this place so much

[ruby socket]

that was my reaction probably

[sterile thorn]

please tell me im going the wrong way and i should have went right, and i have to go back left in the end game

[ruby socket]

youll see acid and green leaves and just follow the path from there

[sterile thorn]

alright thanks

[ruby socket]

np ;)

[sterile thorn]

@ruby socket (sorry for pinging u, just dont reply if ur busy)

im back at ||nail smith||.. somehow?

what do i od

[ruby socket]

i would just watch a video, sorry mate im going out for a bit in like 10 mins wont be able to guide you

[sterile thorn]

alr

sorry for pinging!

WOW ALL THE TUTORIALS ARE LIKE x10 sped up so I can't view anything, can anyone pls send me a map and just put like a red line path? If possible

ty!

[modest elm]

To what now?

Also how do you know you’re at 39%

[sterile thorn]

||fungal waste -> isma grove||

[modest elm]

If you beat the game with that little % then you need to use this channel or online guides less

[sterile thorn]

theres a website, I just put all the bosses i beat, my charms, my abilities, etc. and it told me im 39%

[modest elm]

Alrighty… good on you ig

[modest elm]

This connection is nonexistent. ||Do you just mean a way to get to the grove?||

[rocky dragon]

Backtrack from ||Dung Defender|| and take the first tunnel that goes down

[sterile thorn]

mb, I mean ||waterways||

got confused

[modest elm]

||Grove is on the other (right) side of the broken elevator shaft from waterways. Look for a way to pass through, consider the parts of waterways you haven’t explored or that touch the elevator shaft||

@sterile thorn

[sterile thorn]

alright... thx I get you dont want to spil the entire path to me

[modest elm]

||You also can’t access Isma without Crystal dash||

[sterile thorn]

i do have it

[modest elm]

Gl hf

[sterile thorn]

thx

bye

[ebon blaze]

Does ||pale ore|| count towards 112%?

[jade heart]

indirectly

[junior belfry]

?

[stoic cedar]

||more specifically, the nail upgrades are the ones that give percentage||

[jade heart]

you need all of them for full completion but the ores themself don’t givr %

[junior belfry]

no

i was too focused on killing him

[ebon blaze]

Thanks

[junior belfry]

||wait was she emitting dream particles or sum||

[jade heart]

||yes, u can dream nail him||

[ebon blaze]

1% per ||nail upgrade = 4%||?

[jade heart]

||and not just for dream nail dialogue||

[junior belfry]

||does it take me to the pure vessel fight or sum||

[sleek rapids]

How do you beat ||radiant sisters of battle||

[stoic cedar]

correct

[jade heart]

nope, and don’t ask what it will do here

better to find out urself

learn the moves, practice practice dont bother dealing damage

[ebon blaze]

||don't die
jk be fast and learn the patterns, you can overcharm because you'll die in one hit anyway||

[junior belfry]

aight