hk-help

[fallen tundra]

Alright

[burnt siren]

It's not easy but it's also not too too hard

Like if you can do ||radiant hall of gods|| you can totally do ||weathered mask||

[cobalt coral]

hollow knight is like the 1st legit game that i think im able to perfect on steam

[fallen tundra]

Probably

I thought of that

[fallen tundra]

You'll see

You'll see.

[burnt siren]

Which is funny because it's not easy, it's just that most steam games have a crap ton of achievements

Although hk is definitely easier than a lot of games

It's on the easier end of bossfight focused games

[fallen tundra]

Are we sure silksong is the continuation of the ending ||embrace the void|| and not ||sealed siblings||?

[burnt siren]

No

[fallen tundra]

probably the second one

[burnt siren]

No information about the lore of silksong is currently available other than what was in the 2019 demo

[mortal nest]

what should i use for ||hornet 2|| ?

[fallen tundra]

Go get ||quickslash||

[spark trail]

firstly, get more charms-

[mortal nest]

how?

[burnt siren]

Imo ||shaman stone, quick focus, mark of pride, longnail, steady body|| are all good picks

[mortal nest]

wheres ||quickslash||

[burnt siren]

Wow you guys are so unhelpful 😭

[fallen tundra]

I know really

[burnt siren]

You can explore the area you're in for more stuff if you want. But the main thing you want is health or ||nail upgrades||

[cobalt coral]

asking for help on here is like a 50/50
maybe theyll help
maybe not

[burnt siren]

If you think you have a fair bit, you're fine

[bright sorrel]

||continues from all endings||

[fallen tundra]

||near Sheo. Go all the way right and there is a place where you can use ddark||

[burnt siren]

Also not confirmed

All we know is they believed that in like 2018

Before silksong was announced

[bright sorrel]

aside from TC saying it yes

[burnt siren]

Yeah 8 years ago

Things change

[cobalt coral]

||in sealed siblings hornet gets sealed so no silksong bc in silksong you play as hornet||

[burnt siren]

It might have been said before silksong entered development

[fallen tundra]

fr

[burnt siren]

Imo silksong is a prequel

[fallen tundra]

CHAT THAT'S A #sk-discussion CONVERSATION

[burnt siren]

But this is neither here nor there

[solid heart]

22 clears in the spreadsheet lmao

[burnt siren]

I thought you quit hk stuff

[fallen tundra]

That's why i'm not doing it

[bright sorrel]

that doesnt matter, as part of the message states they will plan for future content

[fallen tundra]

Literally, it would take too long

[bright sorrel]

[solid heart]

Ponder

[cobalt coral]

we will never know cuz silksong releases in never

[burnt siren]

First time seeing a game take over 5 years to release?

[bright sorrel]

i main GD now but i still use hkmain occasionally

[burnt siren]

Ew gd

[fallen tundra]

So if I want to do all the achievements, ||i need to let Zote die in the steel mode while i complete the game in 5 hours||

I can do that

[burnt siren]

Correct

Also

||nailsmith||

[fallen tundra]

I dont kill him

[burnt siren]

You need to give him a different fate

[fallen tundra]

Alright

I know about that

[burnt siren]

Iirc that's it

[solid heart]

And main anyradcord

[fallen tundra]

So

[burnt siren]

The 5 hour time limit is very easy if you have a general plan

Then after that you have 20 hours to full clear

[fallen tundra]

I have to ||kill Zote in the steel mode while i complete the game in 5 hours and spare the nailsmith cuz why not||

[cobalt coral]

||also remember to get 100 % in that run||

[burnt siren]

Just gotta beat the game in 5 hours

[fallen tundra]

No i only need an ending

[burnt siren]

Did you already get speed completion

[fallen tundra]

I'll probably just||get the charms i need and go beat the hell out of the hollow knight||

That's how i'll do it, no need to do a third 112%

[burnt siren]

Fastest way to beat the game is to skip ||wings||

Everything is doable without

[fallen tundra]

Dammit i did 2 IDENTICAL 112%

[burnt siren]

And use ||spells||

Since builds based on ||spells|| are cheaper

[solid heart]

||Skip wings and get ddark||

[fallen tundra]

||basically skip the ancient basin||

[solid heart]

||ddark carry||

[burnt siren]

||shaman stone and spell twister|| are your best friends

[fallen tundra]

alright i know everything

I'll do it next week though

[burnt siren]

Also skip ||cliffs and edge||

[solid heart]

Your last message in GD cord is 2 months old

[burnt siren]

If you want to be extra silly skip ||waterways||

But don't do that

It's a bad idea

[fallen tundra]

Why not

I'm good

[burnt siren]

You need ||isma|| for like 1 thing

[bright sorrel]

i use the creator server

the main gd server is slop

[solid heart]

||Eh, left tunnelskip is not bad||

[fallen tundra]

Oh right ||one of the dreamers||

[burnt siren]

But you can technically speedrun skip

[fallen tundra]

So i need ||crystal dash|| too

[burnt siren]

Using ||cdash||

[fallen tundra]

I know that trick

[burnt siren]

To skip ||isma||

[fallen tundra]

Used it one time

[burnt siren]

Ok

If you know it

[fallen tundra]

That's the easiest and fastest method

Now i'm gonna sleep

[burnt siren]

Uhhhh but yeah try to get a fair bit of money early, get ||dream nail|| quick, the rest just works

[solid heart]

My suggestion: ||VS, Greenpath, Claw, Shade skip into blue lake, dreamnail, open the door to left city, dive, farm geo in city, lantern, cdash, ddark, left tunnelskip into ismas, and swipe all 3 dreamers||

It's not a hard route and you have so much free time for other upgrades

[fallen tundra]

Upgrades?

Aint upgrading anything

[solid heart]

Anything you want ||charms, nail upgrades, spells, whatever||

[fallen tundra]

I'll get ||mop||, that's everything i need

[solid heart]

That route can be easily done in less than 1:30

[solid heart]

Yeah, that counts

[burnt siren]

||shadeskip|| for sub 5 hour is crazy...

[solid heart]

||shade skip is so easy and makes the run miles easier too||

[fallen tundra]

So basically i can end the speedrun with just ||mop, fragile strength dash master and ddark||

[burnt siren]

I wouldn't know I always either am ||shade skipping|| or intentionally playing slow so hard to compare

[solid heart]

||shaman instead of strength, ddark is your main dps||

[burnt siren]

Yeah

[fallen tundra]

I cant use ||spells||

[burnt siren]

Or ||shade soul||

Which imo is more fun

[solid heart]

Why

[burnt siren]

That'll put you at a severe disadvantage

[fallen tundra]

Dude

[burnt siren]

You're easily tripling your dps using ||spells||

[solid heart]

||VS does 3x nail 0, just VS!||

[fallen tundra]

||i did p5 and all the radiant bosses||with no ||spells|| cuz i cant use them

[solid heart]

Just use them, who cares

[fallen tundra]

I only have one build

[burnt siren]

Lmao

[solid heart]

||dark requires no skill to use whatsoever for the any% bosses||

[fallen tundra]

[solid heart]

I'm it joking

[burnt siren]

Use them for learning

It's good experience

[solid heart]

Just use ||ddark as soon as you can and boom, Watchers dead, Uumuu's dead, THK's dead||

[solid heart]

Yeah, exactly

[burnt siren]

The best copypasta

[solid heart]

All non endgame fights just die to that broken spell

[burnt siren]

||shade soul|| more fun tho

And higher damage potential technically

[solid heart]

||ddark less skill||

[burnt siren]

Triple hits 🤑

[fallen tundra]

||"oh well this boss seems hard, looks like it's time for ddark" Proceeds to spam ddark against the poor soul of the boss||

[solid heart]

That's why it's the best for the achievement

[fallen tundra]

||gpz|| experience anyways

[solid heart]

||Quadruple hits ||

[burnt siren]

Idk what the case for those is

||triples|| are reliable and consistent and I know about their spots

[solid heart]

I don't know either, I just they are possible and I got one once to ||God Tamer, and that's it||

[fallen tundra]

||hitless p5 is hard?||

I wanna try that

There is a channel for that

Wait actually there isnt

Or at least I think so

[burnt siren]

This is not the place for that

[olive mirage]

No one is gonna help you pirate the game

[burnt siren]

I assume if you're dealing with an emulator problem you'd do best to stop looking here altogether

[fallen tundra]

I wanted to use this so bad

[olive mirage]

If you own the game and are working on some kind of modding, then #1057825333841240104 is the place to go

[burnt siren]

And if you're using an emulator for something else... go to the emulator's discord help

Not the hollow knight server

I don't know

Look it up

What

[olive mirage]

What are you emulating?

[burnt siren]

Ok then

[olive mirage]

Thanks mods I had no idea where that was going

Wow it’s as if it never happened

[burnt siren]

Thanks in advance

[olive mirage]

Bruh

Who removed that

[burnt siren]

It was me

But I made you think

[olive mirage]

[fallow kindle]

Wait

Will i be banned?

[burnt siren]

Probably not

Don't do anything stupid tho

[fallow kindle]

Like what

Im not crazy bruh

[burnt siren]

Use common sense

[fallow kindle]

Yh ik, im js trynna solve my problem

[burnt siren]

Your problem should be solved elsewhere

[fallow kindle]

Im like 1 week with that

[fallow kindle]

Trynna find thus

[burnt siren]

Is it hollow knight related?

[fallow kindle]

This

Yes and no

[burnt siren]

What are you doing 😭

Go ask chatgpt idfk

😭

But you won't say what you're doing

Mhm

So if your goal is piracy

I'll just wait for a mod to get over here

Ok then I have literally no idea

Are you trying to get mods?

Dude stop talking in this channel

[graceful juniper]

<@&283547423706447872> help

[undone copper]

Whay

[graceful juniper]

oh wait

[sharp torrent]

whaha

[manic abyss]

Whahaha

[narrow crow]

i need assistance in vc4

[spark trail]

||grimm|| is gonna hate me

there isnt, but shes very usefull

[narrow crow]

ah

[spark trail]

||you get a prise if you give her over 2550||

[narrow crow]

like total or at once?

[spark trail]

total

[narrow crow]

ok

so should i buy the ||fragile greed|| charm from ||leg eater|| then?

[spark trail]

yeah that can be good

||i suggest going to the forgotten crossroads stagway, doing that room just outside of it, then go to defeat the grey knight just before the false knight area, then going back, clearing that room again, then sit on the stagway bench and repeat||

||you get roughly 100 each go around||

[narrow crow]

am still early game, is that early game???

[spark trail]

yes-

have you not beaten ||false knight||

[narrow crow]

i've explored up to ||city of tears||

[spark trail]

that doesnt exactly tell me much other than that you beat ||false knight and got vengefull soul||

[narrow crow]

also beat ||hornet||

[spark trail]

mk

[narrow crow]

and have ||mothwing cloak and mantis claw||

[narrow crow]

please spoiler your messages

[haughty glade]

Have you beat the ||Soul master||

[narrow crow]

???

[fallen tundra]

What

To save the ||nailsmith|| do i actually have to ||upgrade my nail to max level|| or i can just ignore him?

If it's the first one i'm just gonna do a whole new run

[stoic cedar]

||u will need to have max nail to be able to get the achievement associated with not killing the nailsmith||

[narrow crow]

I havent gone through all of ||city of tears|| and went into the ||mines|| I have the ||dream nail|| now

[fallen tundra]

Why this game wants me to suffer

[burnt siren]

It wants you to play it more!

If this was a mobile game developer you'd have to beat the game 8+ times trust

[fallen tundra]

So basically, i speedrun the game in 5 hours. In that speedrun (that is in ||steel mode||) i got to ||kill Zote and save the nailsmith||

[burnt siren]

Yeah

I'm having deja vu

[fallen tundra]

And to do this speedrun I have to get as fast as possible ||crystal dash, descending dark, Mark of pride and fragile strength||

All i need to beat the game

[burnt siren]

None of those are out of the way so sure

[fallen tundra]

Also ||dream nail||

[burnt siren]

Get ||lantern|| too

Unless you want to navigate ||deepnest in pitch black||

!!

[fallen tundra]

Nah ||I know deepnest by heart||

[burnt siren]

Surely

[fallen tundra]

Fr

Now that i think about it i can easily get ||fury|| at the beginning

[burnt siren]

True

But it's ||steel soul||

So uh

[stoic cedar]

||fury strats on steel soul, thats ballsy||

[burnt siren]

Thats a death sentence

It's based tho

Go for it

Technically it can't hurt to get it

[fallen tundra]

Dude

[burnt siren]

It's a ||charm for salubra||

[fallen tundra]

||Steel soul aint that bad||

[burnt siren]

So progress towards ||notches||

[burnt siren]

On 1 health?

[fallen tundra]

I can ||over charm||

Wait cant i just beat the game with a single charm

That's so easy

[burnt siren]

You can

[fallen tundra]

All i need is ||fragile strength||

[burnt siren]

It's not a particularly hard challenge but there's no reason not to get a few

[narrow crow]

what does ||waking the dreamers|| do for me?

[burnt siren]

It's required. I won't say more

You'll figure it out on your own

[narrow crow]

Required to ||end the plague||?

[stoic cedar]

in fact, u can beat the game with zero charms. but thats not convenient and its slow since ur dps would be rather terrible. i would say ||shaman stone|| is a must have since it increases ur dps by quite a significant amount

[fallen tundra]

oh i forgot ||ddark|| can carry me from the very start

[burnt siren]

Yeah ||shaman|| is a top 2 ||charm||

Def get it

(And no #1 is not ||strength||)

[fallen tundra]

Alright, quick way to get ||3 notches?||

1 free at ||fungal wastes||

Then 1 sold by ||salubra||

or 2 i forgot

[narrow crow]

you start with ||3|| so you're trying to get ||5|| total, right?

[stoic cedar]

there are a total of 4 ||charm notches|| that are sold at ||salubra|| but all of them have ||charm amount requirements||

[fallen tundra]

I start with 3, i'm trying to get 6

[narrow crow]

ah k

[fallen tundra]

Yeah that's what i thought

[mortal nest]

||cant beat hornet 2||

[gloomy hamlet]

Yeah, and to get all 4, you need 25 ||charms||

[mortal nest]

yo

[gloomy hamlet]

Hey

[mortal nest]

||i cant beat hornet 2 any tips?||

[gloomy hamlet]

What's your inventory?

[mortal nest]

\

[gloomy hamlet]

||Is that mothwing or shade cloak||

[mortal nest]

||moth||

[gloomy hamlet]

Oh right

[stoic cedar]

||how would they have shade cloak without beating hornet 2||

[gloomy hamlet]

I feel dumb

[mortal nest]

you are :D

jk

[gloomy hamlet]

No need to remind me

It's just been a while since I've been out of ||Godhome||

[mortal nest]

I IDENTIFY AS A CHAIR

so

any tips or not

[gloomy hamlet]

What about charms?

[gloomy hamlet]

||Soul Eater|| is a trap. Bosses generate tons of soul just by hitting them.

[mortal nest]

okay

i just removed it

[narrow crow]

am at ||far city stag station||

i dont wanna "||sit and rest||"

[sharp torrent]

||you'll probably want to maximize damage with shade soul + shaman stone||

[gloomy hamlet]

I'd say go for ||Quick focus and Dream Wielder||

[mortal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-16075047530947414312

[mortal nest]

why ||dream weilder||

[sharp torrent]

||wielder is very good, halves the animation time of dream nail and doubles its soul--meaning a 4x increase in output||

[mortal nest]

okay

ima try this

[sharp torrent]

||personally I don't think you need quick slash. hornet 2 is fast and doesn't stay hittable for long periods of time. you'd benefit more from the extra shade soul / desolate dive damage||

[mortal nest]

okay

i wont use qs

[gloomy hamlet]

I just tend to use it because I've used it for so long that if I don't, I will walk into enemies because there's less knockback

[mortal nest]

im gonna use it i did worse then when i had it

[raven dagger]

to get the ||pure nail|| how much ||pale ore|| i need? 2 or 3?

[sharp torrent]

3

[raven dagger]

oh shi, thanks, i still need one lol

[mortal nest]

shit i was so close i beat her 3 times

knocked her

**

should i always stay at a corner or should i stay in middle?

@gloomy hamlet

[narrow crow]

does anyone now what to do with this?

[stoic cedar]

nothing here, it does nothing

[narrow crow]

what to do then?

[fading wraith]

In the ||abyss area the only thing there is, is the shadow dash?||

[stoic cedar]

||there is the lifeblood core room, abyss shriek, journal entry for void tendrils, and a couple relics. and depending on what ur progress is in the game u might have to come back to the abyss later on, after obtaining a certain charm||

[fading wraith]

||is that for the secret ending, correct?||

[stoic cedar]

||correct, there are two endings associated with it||

[fading wraith]

||I'm currently in the Hollow Knight fight, but I couldn't do it, and after a lot of exploring and a fight with Hornet, I found the Abyss. Can I do the secret ending now?||

without spoiling me

just guide me

and ty for the help btw

[stoic cedar]

||based on what i think ur progress is, no. and u should go back and beat thk to get the normal ending first||

[fading wraith]

||once you do the normal ending, do I have to start a new playthrough for the secret ending?||

[stoic cedar]

no

[fading wraith]

||so beating hollow knight won't roll credits and lock my save?||

[stoic cedar]

||this is a very common misconception for newer players regarding how endings work. getting an ending does not lock u out of ur save file. once u get an ending and the credits roll, u are still able to load ur save file and ur progress will be the same as right before u entered the thk fight. basically, getting endings do not affect ur save file in any way and u can continue as normal even after getting an ending||

[fading wraith]

Oooooo I see

ty so much for the help

[gloomy hamlet]

Only different thing is completion percentage

[keen stream]

is there a mod that would show hitboxes btw?

i wanna study ||nkg||

cause there're times I'd get him without even touching him

[stoic cedar]

debug mod

[keen stream]

tis my first time experiencing weird hitbox ngl

[stoic cedar]

i dont remember having too much trouble with jank hitboxes on ||nkg||. which attack specifically do u think has weird hitboxees?

[keen stream]

not the attacks but ||nkg|| himself

||cause I'd dash towards him when he's shooting bats and sometimes get hit||

||soul tyrant|| as well, ||that slam attack with shockwave||

[stoic cedar]

||i mean im pretty sure nkg just has a rectangular hitbox, its not like some super weird hitbox. and the bats should have a pretty small hitbox, even smaller than what it visually suggests||

[bright sorrel]

that hitbox doesnt cover a lot of the sprite

[keen stream]

he's thin so i didn't really expect that

[bright sorrel]

so little that a|| regular jump with decent timing can clear it ||

[wary gust]

Forgot spoiler

This guy

Is it a ||breakable wall or something||

[stoic cedar]

||breakable wall in deepnest||

[wary gust]

Where about is the wall

In the big rectangular room on the map?

[keen stream]

iirc there's an ||evil grub ahead||

[keen stream]

yeh

look for a wall that has crack innit

[wary gust]

Alright thank you 🙏 I’ve almost got the last few I need for the ||charm||

[keen stream]

les gooo, ||you'll get a kiss soon||

[wary gust]

I hate ||deepnest||

[keen stream]

it's fun in there

[wary gust]

Peak game design

[keen stream]

i just hate the character design of the enemies there, creepy af

[wary gust]

If you find constantly being groomed by ||spikes and huge spiders|| fun then sure

[keen stream]

its a cool parkour area without them tbh

[wary gust]

It’s not as bad as when you first encounter it though atleast

[wary gust]

True but like ||white palace exists||

[keen stream]

i alr did that

[wary gust]

||PoP?||

[keen stream]

hell yeh

[keen stream]

spoiler ||pop||

[wary gust]

I don’t even know where to find it

3 ||evil grubs || is crazy

[keen stream]

i feel bad for them tbh

[wary gust]

why, they try to kill you 💔

[keen stream]

they got imprisoned tho... they became a rabid grubs

which grub you missin now btw

[wary gust]

||wait dont they just disguise themselves as grubs to trick travellers or something, i thought the hunters journal says that||

[fading wraith]

How many endings the game has

[wary gust]

1 in ||waterways 1 in isma's grove and one in the hive||

[wary gust]

436

[fading wraith]

?

[wary gust]

436 different endings

[fading wraith]

emmm

[wary gust]

me when i spread misinformation

[fading wraith]

sure?

[wary gust]

if i remember correctly it has 5

[keen stream]

das good

[keen stream]

i only know 3

[wary gust]

Almost there 💀

[keen stream]

do ||pop|| as well

it's satisfying

[gloomy hamlet]

Don't forget coliseum

[wary gust]

oh yeah

i need to do ||trial of the fool||

[wary gust]

where is it

[keen stream]

||in the 2nd area of white palace, the room right after the elevator, break the wall in your left||

[raven dagger]

after defeating ||colo3|| i only get ||geo????||| thats so saddddddddddddddddd

the ||last boss is easier than the normal mobs lol||

idk if theres something i missed

[hoary anvil]

(you also get an achievement, a completion marker, and ||the glory of being a Fool||. if you want money, you're better off with ||colo 2||)

[ruby sundial]

(idk if that makes sense)

(image for context)

[stoic cedar]

hello, this channel has rules regarding spoilers, u need to spoiler ur msg

[ruby sundial]

idk how?

[stoic cedar]

this image needs to be spoiler tagged too

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[stoic cedar]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

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[ruby sundial]

||hey, im on my first hollow knight playthrough and im facing a problem, i fell for the bench trap in the spider part of the map and idk where i have to go to get back to somewhere to update my map||

could someone give a hand in this issue?

[stoic cedar]

||u will have to find ur way out of beasts den. it is a pretty confusing area but eventually u will find a way out||

[vivid fog]

||dirtmouth|| needs to be spoiled

[jade sedge]

Hi gwnj

[vivid fog]

otso

[thick wing]

Best build for || white defender|| ?

[stoic cedar]

uhh firstly we can see ur reflection (albeit blurry) from ur picture, not sure if thats smth u were aware of, also to answer ur question,||smth like qs, shaman stone, mark of pride, spell twister should do quite well||

[keen stream]

awn,,, you dont have ||strength||

[thick wing]

Lmao, but thanks

[sterile thorn]

Guuys, I need help in a game called "Hollow Knight" If anyone possibly knows it?

[thick wing]

Sure what do you need

[sterile thorn]

well

im in ||ancient basin|| as of currently

[thick wing]

Ok

[sterile thorn]

and its really eerie, and I just want to speedrun to it - and I already beat the ||broken vessel.|| anything esle I need from it?

Or have I completed it

[thick wing]

Tecnically yes, if u need || pale ore|| u can get it || near the tram||

[sterile thorn]

alright, I already got it

thanks!

[thick wing]

Welcome

U got the || stag|| right?

[sterile thorn]

i guesss?

im 84% sure

I got it

[sterile thorn]

wait lol I swear ur name total coincedence

[thick wing]

|| hidden station|| its called

Yeah i know

[sterile thorn]

again, 84% sure I got it, i might be just a chance im missremembering tho

very small chance

but im pretty sure i got it

[twilit heath]

||nightmare king grimm 💖|| how do I fight him hes too fast for me to comprehend whats going on before im dead

[thick wing]

I didnt get to him yet

Too lazy

[sterile thorn]

i mean, not to be rude but I really think this is just "get good". Like literally best adivce.

If you want real advice prob just stay far away and learn his attack patterns

[stoic cedar]

what attack r u struggling with? or u just struggling with his speed in general?

[sterile thorn]

most fast bosses just stay far away

[sterile thorn]

yes better question to ask there

[twilit heath]

speed I mean I defeated him before and his attacks in this form is just the old suff +1

[sterile thorn]

then yeah I think my advice i s pretty good

just stay far away

and

dodge when u see a animation

if u do remember his attacks

use ur spells instead of nail

[twilit heath]

also im at ||99% completion|| do u think its safe to watch vids on hk

[sterile thorn]

hmm

I mean

no, like the final section wow u do not want to be spoiled

it is SO GOOD

like the cutscenes

graphics drawings

gameplay

its so good

im so sad I spoield myself with all the fights

and ||charms||

etd

etc

if u watch videos now

[twilit heath]

but I cant progress unless I beat ||nk grimm <3 and colo3|| can I?

[sterile thorn]

what ur doing is basically

"I'm going to eat the worlds worst food, so that after that I can go to heaven!"

"Actually, I don't want to go to heaven, I want more worst food 😄 Forever.."

[sterile thorn]

uhh based on gameplays I watched

there are some tricks

that are used in speedruns

but ask a professional

like achow

[thick wing]

Tips on || white defender||?

I got pretty far

But i still die

[sterile thorn]

dang it, that was the only boss I didn't know yet, anyways I know all the bosses now..

[stoic cedar]

just based on ur ||completion percentage|| u can definitely progress elsewhere but ||nkg|| is a fun boss fight so i would suggest doing that. ||colo3|| can be a be de-motivating since its so long and its feels bad to die so far into a run but i would suggest doing that at some point too.

[thick wing]

Anyone

[sterile thorn]

uhhhh

well tell me is he fast or slow?

and his attackes

[thick wing]

Fast

[sterile thorn]

ranged or short

[thick wing]

Both

[sterile thorn]

uh

can i see ur inv

?

charm inv'

[thick wing]

Sure one sec

[stoic cedar]

bruh i dont think u can be telling tips about this when u arent even that far into the game

[thick wing]

Yeah

[sterile thorn]

reading wiki on his moves rn

and how he plays

[stoic cedar]

💀

aint no way

[sterile thorn]

then I can devvise what charms he should use

[thick wing]

Lol

[sterile thorn]

well can u send ur charm inv?

[stoic cedar]

he already sent it earlier

[thick wing]

Dont mind my reflection

I sent it again just for u

[twilit heath]

what do I put in the last two slots

[sterile thorn]

||shaman, longnail, fragile strength, spell twister.||

oh and theres 2 more uhh

anything works

[twilit heath]

brother r u playing on a mirror how is that SO reflective

[stoic cedar]

u need to spoiler tag this bruh

[thick wing]

Lol nice joke

[sterile thorn]

sorry

[thick wing]

Yesh

Yeah

I don’t have || strength|| tho

[sterile thorn]

also is that|| dung defender ||||dream|| version?

[thick wing]

And i got a build already

[sterile thorn]

cuz its really jsut a better version of him

like all ||dreams|| are

[thick wing]

Yes

[twilit heath]

should I do the most demotivating, infuriating thing and try ||path of pain|| lol

[thick wing]

I need tips

[sterile thorn]

ok yeah im pretty confident my charm selection is good, but if u do have better charms i dont know abt use them lol

[thick wing]

On fighting

[sterile thorn]

Oh sure

uh

well

i mean

the way i fought the og

I just stayed closed to him

and when he threw ||dungs|| I went onto walls

[stoic cedar]

||i mean u r already doing nkg, i suggest u finish that first. then u can decide what to do. ||

[sterile thorn]

and when he was underground I ||slammed||, but thats not gnna work for this boss. so ig just prepare for him coming out so then u can immediately spell

[thick wing]

It is harder than that

[thick wing]

Yes

Ill go try

[sterile thorn]

alr

gl!

oaky guys i officially know every boss in the game, isnt this fun!!! 🙂

[twilit heath]

bruh does he also do ||2 mask damage per hit||

[sterile thorn]

who?

[thick wing]

Oh shit I got to second stage and died lol

[twilit heath]

||nkg,,||

[sterile thorn]

Oh @thick wing if he does|| 2 mask damage per hit,|| id play more passive. Like still stay near him to do|| nail ||damage- oh he was talking about ||nkg|| lol

[stoic cedar]

||white defender deals one mask per hit||

[sterile thorn]

but yeah if ||wd|| does do that much, play a lil more passive. Like when he's|| underground just do a long range spell or smth||

[sterile thorn]

ok then yeah

no I was confused by piglet

thought he was talkign to

yeah

i mean i dont wanna delete, that would be ghost ping

[vivid fog]

don't post that gif pls

[twilit heath]

is there smth wrong w it 😭

like I get that its a spoiler but

[thick wing]

LETS GOO

[twilit heath]

is there anything else

[thick wing]

I BEAT HIM

[twilit heath]

damn

[vivid fog]

i would tell you in DMs instead

[thick wing]

I can || awake my dream nail|| now

[vivid fog]

not in here

[twilit heath]

hey can you ||dream teleport|| within ||white palace||

[twilit heath]

ok

[manic atlas]

||guys should I do a few of the side quests like grim trouppe for the charm notch, getting unbreakable charms, or getting pure nail before beating the game or just beat my last dreamer and beat the game, then do all side quests ?||

[twilit heath]

soooo uh

HOW TF AM I SUPPOSED TO ||NKG|| IF HE DEALS ||TWO MASKS DMG|| AND IS SO FUCKING FAST WHAT

[somber hill]

learn his attacks slowly 1 by 1

they get really easy after u realise u can just do the same thing to dodge the same attack

[solid heart]

||I say you should beat the game now, and after that finish the side quest to go for the other harder endings||

[manic atlas]

alr ill do that then

[twilit heath]

bro ik them im just a spam attack somehow survive and get it over with person not a dodge dodge attack dodge dodge attack master

[manic atlas]

but what about ||unbreakable charms|| should I get those before or after beating the game

[burnt grove]

do you have ||Godhome||?

[twilit heath]

wuh

nuh uh

[burnt grove]

After, they're not necessary in the base game imo

[somber hill]

well rip

[manic atlas]

hmm ok

[burnt grove]

okay so I would highly recommend watching a video

[twilit heath]

what is ||godhome|| and where do I get it

[burnt grove]

it's DLC, don't worry

I can VAGUELY tell you how to reach It (I don't Remember the path)

[somber hill]

ty for helping, in the future try not to ask 'do you have [something]?' instead ask for maybe an area, inventory or just ask how late game they are in case they don't want to get spoiled on things unrelated to their qu. Ik that specific area is hard but i think just ask for map and any ||extra areas||

[burnt grove]

for ||NKG||

[somber hill]

^that's ok too

be careful when searching videos tho some are spoiler heavy

[burnt grove]

yeah I didnt think about that sorry😭

[somber hill]

np

[burnt grove]

I got up an hour ago so

[somber hill]

ur fine dw

[burnt grove]

for charms get what you want but I would recommend ||Shaman Stone, Twister and Sharp Shadow||

[hoary anvil]

(the path is ||waterways bench|| -> ||dive floor to fluke area|| -> ||breakable wall to junk pit||)

[thick wing]

Yo

How do i get || true ending||

I got the normal one

Again

[twilit heath]

the big oval down there right

[thick wing]

I have || awoken my dream nail||

What do i do

[stoic cedar]

||do u remember anything that u tried to dream nail but u couldnt?||

[keen stream]

i didnt realize but im at 110% progression

[thick wing]

I got || white palace|| now

I can do it

Why am i not getting it

[stoic cedar]

yea u should do it

[thick wing]

I tried

[stoic cedar]

did u get through the whole thing?

[thick wing]

No

[stoic cedar]

okay then u should

[thick wing]

why?

[stoic cedar]

cuz theres smth u need at the end of it

[manic atlas]

wait so u can stun ||uumuu|| with both ur spells and just waiting for quirrel ?

[thick wing]

|| white fragmen||

I got one of them

[stoic cedar]

okay then find the other one

[thick wing]

I did my homework

[thick wing]

Do i need it || for true ending||?

[stoic cedar]

yes

[thick wing]

Ok

And do i need || void heart|| ?

[stoic cedar]

||no, only quirrel can make uumuu vulnerable||

[stoic cedar]

yes

[thick wing]

Ok

Thx

[twilit heath]

?

[hoary anvil]

not quite. ||above the entrance to that spot there's a belfly (kaboom), and right next to them is a breakable wall in the ceiling||

[manic atlas]

so just one question, should I equip ||shaman's stone|| and just spell it or save my soul for heals in this fight and use nail for pirmary damage when the boss is stunned

[keen stream]

wha build do yall use against ||watcher knights||?

[stoic cedar]

||u should try to maximize damage whenever uumuu is vulnerable, so yes u should use spells||

[manic atlas]

ok thanks, can u give me a solid charm build to use for this fight ??

[stoic cedar]

send screenshot of charm inventory

[hoary anvil]

-# i wonder if they have the ||d#### n###||

[manic atlas]

sent

[hoary anvil]

charm inventory confirms it with ||dreamshield and grimmchild|| so...

[hoary anvil]

something you may want to be aware of for that fight is that ||you can get soul off of uumuu using the dream nail, even while invulnerable||

[stoic cedar]

(||thats dreamshield but yea ur overall point is right lol...||)

[hoary anvil]

...i even thought that and wrote the wrong one anyways 💀

[stoic cedar]

||i would suggest quickslash and shaman stone, the rest is largely up to u. mark of pride if u need the nail range or quick focus if u find urself taking too much damage are both good options as well||

[twilit heath]

guessing I need a ||simple key|| for this but I dont have one

[hoary anvil]

how many did you get already and where? (also, what do you have on your map areas? everywhere?)
-# the dlc update adding that added another one behind a breakable wall somewhere

[manic atlas]

I legit already beat it first try, its so easy wth

before u even gave me a build

[stoic cedar]

||yea uumuu doesnt have much health, with even with middle game gear u can melt through uumuus health within 2 or 3 cycles (even 1 cycle if u have late game abilities)||

[twilit heath]

I think two? ||one from sly I used for jiji and another one while roaming around somewhere that I used for the waterways||

[hoary anvil]

i suppose ||quick focus|| can be useful if you aren't abusing the safe spots for that one attack

[manic atlas]

so should I just directly now attempt the final boss ?

[hoary anvil]

i'm going to assume by the one roaming around you mean ||city storerooms||

can you send a map screenshot? (also maybe an inventory screenshot)
-# or refer me back to one already sent

[twilit heath]

pretty sure

[stoic cedar]

if u have access to it then sure, go ahead

[manic atlas]

I do

[keen sundial]

||if I banister Grimm Troupe and did not kill nightmare king Grimm is there someway for him to end up back in my journal ||

[hoary anvil]

no

[keen sundial]

Ok

[keen stream]

who's in here?

[stoic cedar]

||that is a godhome exclusive boss. ull find it in one of the pantheons||

[keen stream]

i wanna know their names...

[stoic cedar]

||pure vessel||

[hoary anvil]

alright, so you do have access to all of them, so here's all the locations:

• ||sly|| (you already had this one)
• ||city storerooms near the stag, in the room below it|| (potentially already done)
• ||in a corpse in the loop right before broken vessel in basin after the cdash spike pit|| (potentially already done)
• ||past a breakable wall off the right side of colo in kingdom's edge|| (DLC addition, you probably don't have this one)

[keen stream]

ohhh... awesome

[stoic cedar]

if u wanted to know the one to the left as well, it is called ||nailsage sly||

[keen stream]

bro is a warrior all along

[manic atlas]

guys should I get all ||masks, charm notches, vessel fragments and charms before the final boss ?||

[keen stream]

i feel bad for ||sheo||

he lonely

[stoic cedar]

no need

[manic atlas]

cuz every guide I see has everything and is telling me to get everything so

[stoic cedar]

||thats overkill for thk, u should be fine||

[manic atlas]

can u make me a charm build for it ?

[twilit heath]

what loop do u mean

[stoic cedar]

smth like ||qs, shaman, mop, sbody|| should work

[hoary anvil]

the thing with all of these guys ||https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/hkwiki/images/c/c8/B_Mawlek1.png||

[manic atlas]

alr

[hoary anvil]

(actually, here's an image marking their locations on a map to make it super easy to tell which one i mean ||https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/hkwiki/images/0/00/Mapshot_HK_Mawlurk_01.png||)

[twilit heath]

nvm I just checked I got it yeah

[hoary anvil]

so you have gotten ||sly and basin|| ... that leaves the ones for ||city and colo|| ... could pull up map images with their locations circled

[keen stream]

how much helth does ||no eyes|| have in ||ascended||?

[hoary anvil]

map images, provided you don't mind map spoilers ||https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/hkwiki/images/7/73/Mapshot_HK_Simple_Key_2.png (city) + https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/hkwiki/images/9/9a/Mapshot_HK_Pale_Lurker_01.png (colo)||

...so this time around it actually embeds them

[keen stream]

that dude is the only one left in 3rd column

[hoary anvil]

800

[hoary anvil]

hang on, you got ||pleasure house|| open in addition to ||jiji + waterways|| so you got a 3rd one

-# this is of course assuming ||waterways main entrance and not through like isma's grove initially or spike tunnel skip||

[twilit heath]

oh wait I thought u were asking me to send map 😭

[hoary anvil]

i mean it verifies that you aren't getting any map spoilers from the images, and also the location you want is ||colo||

[twilit heath]

uhhhhhhh can I access it before finishing ||colo3||

[hoary anvil]

yes

just a ||breakable wall on the right side||. of note, there's actually 2 that fill that description

[twilit heath]

bro no one told me there was a ||hot spring|| what

[manic atlas]

WAIT ||THK|| HAS 1250 HEALTH WTH

[hoary anvil]

(very useful)

[twilit heath]

literally 😭

[hoary anvil]

((that's why i didn't feel the need to specify that the one for the ||key|| was the top one, because the bottom one is also super useful))

[hoary anvil]

((also makes it really funny that there's a ||soul totem|| in that dlc room))

[twilit heath]

a what

I got the ||key|| and a ||kings idol|| thats it right?

[mortal vine]

why is all the text invisible

[twilit heath]

the god of tech wants thou to be free from all spoilers

[mortal vine]

can I not be free?

[twilit heath]

nay

it is the will of the lady

[mortal vine]

pls teach me the way

[tribal salmon]

does anyone have any advice for ||radiant oro and mato||, i can kill ||phase one|| in a solid 15-20 seconds, but i immediately get destroyed by ||phase two || because i'm too damn scared of the one in the back doing something stupid

[hoary anvil]

well, also a hidden ||geo rock|| for the astute using ||crystal heart on the tall wall|| but other than that yeah

[mortal vine]

who is the lady

[hoary anvil]

(the ||statues that give you soul when you hit them||)

[hoary anvil]

idk i just abused something to keep my distance instead of doing it normally

[mortal vine]

keeping them close together is helpful, but try to look for a queue of what the one in the back is doing

[tribal salmon]

yeah if i can get it down to 1 i can obliterate them

i had a good attempt just now but one jumped back and hid what the other was doing

[mortal vine]

||ddark|| is useful to give you iframes

[mortal vine]

I am still untaught

[hoary anvil]

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[languid radish]

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[hoary anvil]

^that's the reason

(also a guide)

[tribal salmon]

yeah ive had horrible luck with that

[hoary anvil]

||ddark|| requires spoiler tags btw

[tribal salmon]

i keep getting owned by startup

[mortal vine]

if you use the quick cast button it helped me so much with that provlem

[tribal salmon]

huh?

didnt even know that was a thing

[hoary anvil]

oh yeah, in terms of things the game doesn't tell you about, in settings for controls you'll see a button for ||quick cast||. what it does is ||fire the spell, but unlike focus it doesn't need to check if you're holding to heal so it fires it earlier - probably immediately on press rather than on release||

[tribal salmon]

when do the iframes exactly start?

[mortal vine]

wait this is a test ||ddark||

aha

I figured it out

[hoary anvil]

i think it's ||when you start moving down||...

as a tip, doing a small jump first means you can skip a special jump windup animation and get it off a touch faster

[mortal vine]

doesn’t it also ||deal less damage||

[hoary anvil]

huh what no?

[mortal vine]

oh what someone told me it did

[stoic cedar]

theres literally no reason not to use ||quick cast||, its just ||focus cast|| but with no delay, its better in all scenarios

[tribal salmon]

besides keyboard players needing to claw.. ew

[hoary anvil]

the only downside is that the game doesn't tell you about it so people don't realize it exists

[tribal salmon]

feels really awkward

[hoary anvil]

???

[stoic cedar]

i switched the two keybinds specifically for that reason lol

[tribal salmon]

didnt know i could do that

[hoary anvil]

as a keyboard only player, elaborate?

[mortal vine]

I just started using the bumper on instinct

[stoic cedar]

its awkward to stretch ur fingers to press F on default keybinds

[tribal salmon]

^

[hoary anvil]

oh, i started changing the keybinds immediately on starting the game

i mean iirc on controller ||narts|| are a pain because attack and jump are both letter keys

[mortal vine]

what’s a ||nart||

[stoic cedar]

it is short for ||nail art|| if u know what that is

[mortal vine]

oh makes sense

[twilit heath]

never actually liked her but

[keen stream]

awe hell nahh

[twilit heath]

@hoary anvil ok so I got the ||godtuner|| now what

[manic atlas]

damn that was easy

[mortal vine]

gg

[mortal vine]

||dnail the godseeker||

[hoary anvil]

||dream nail the bug||
(as a note, if you exit ||junk pit|| by going up, you can unlock a shortcut for returning)

[twilit heath]

who

[mortal vine]

||le corpse||

[hoary anvil]

||other thing that fell out||

[stoic cedar]

ggs on the win, but even tho the credits rolling theres still a lot more content left in the game! for starters, u should go get the other ||endings||

[twilit heath]

ohhh

[mortal vine]

[tribal salmon]

yeah im not gonna lie these are the first bosses that have kicked my ass so far

[mortal vine]

fair enough

is this ||radiant||

[tribal salmon]

yes

[twilit heath]

||the gods told me to fuck off im so flattered||

[mortal vine]

right that sucks

[keen stream]

how do yall kill ||nailsage sly||?

[hoary anvil]

i don't even know what the default keybinds are, but i saw that jump wasn't space and so instantly moved it there.
-# later i found out my keyboard had input issues with combining both space and arrow keys so i moved movement over to IJKL to not need to change muscle memory

[keen stream]

bro moves way better than me

i wish i can do that

[tribal salmon]

i was able to get through|| attuned|| and ||ascended|| easily but god damn that ||phase two|| is terrifying

[mortal vine]

fr tho

[hoary anvil]

[tribal salmon]

dodging them is fine but actually getting in a hit is rough

[mortal vine]

||thou cringer||

[hoary anvil]

general flow: ||wait for it to finish the combo (with proximity based finisher) and then land a nail art or something||

[keen stream]

hitting ||sly|| is way harder than clapping ||grimm||

[mortal vine]

||nkg is scripted fr||

[tribal salmon]

||nkg|| took me like an hour ngl

[keen stream]

i think that might be my first boss that yall suggested to use ||nail arts||

[stoic cedar]

||default keybinds has z for jump, x for attack, c for dash, a for focus cast, f for quick cast. usually ur fingers are on the bottom row with these keybinds but f is in the middle row and to the right of the usual buttons so its awkward to reach there||

[mortal vine]

you can generally get a ||nail hit|| before you get hit and the ||scloak|| away

[hoary anvil]

they are particularly useful on that boss due to both not being able to keep good uptime on it, and the extra range provided. (mainly use ||great slash, with a touch of dash slash||)

[keen stream]

bro wields a bigass sword as well

[mortal vine]

fair enough ||nkg is hella fast||

[keen stream]

whats down here tho

[mortal vine]

||absrad||?

[tribal salmon]

bro i love when one of them just decides to go offscreeen and charges an attack

so cool

[keen stream]

||abdsrad|| might be the one on the top

[mortal vine]

its a pain

[stoic cedar]

||this is unlocked after u beat every single boss in hall of gods on at least attuned||

[mortal vine]

||dash slash f me up sm||

[mortal vine]

||oh right||

[hoary anvil]

i personally keep my fingers in an arc on (shift) A S C Space, with those being ||A slash, S cast, C dash, Space jump||. from there, i can move my fingers to do ||D dream nail, X super dash, and F focus|| if needed

[tribal salmon]

im doing the ||shriek|| strat at the start and i love when there is just a 50% i die to contact

[mortal vine]

loll fr

[hoary anvil]

i mean if they do that then they're like ... always doing that iirc

[hoary anvil]

(it is)

[mortal vine]

what does iirc mean

[mortal vine]

yeah it is, I didn’t see where you was

correctly

[hoary anvil]

a ||journal entry|| unlocked when completing the ||hall of gods on attuned/ascended/radiant respectively (highest one overrides)||

[hoary anvil]

if i remember correctly

[tribal salmon]

so apparently they can cancel their attacks MID ATTACK into a parry

what nonsense is this

[mortal vine]

oh ok, thx

[mortal vine]

what does the ||arena look like in radiant||

or what’s ||different in radiant||

[tribal salmon]

they just have a lot of health in their second phase

[mortal vine]

oh dang

that’s sad

[hoary anvil]

nothing really, just the ||ascended hp makes them both have the same hp in phase 2 so you can't burst one down as easily||

[tribal salmon]

||they both have more health that oro in phase 1 i think||

[mortal vine]

oh ||oro can’t leave immediately so sad||

[tribal salmon]

||because i can shred oro down in a good 10 seconds when he's alone||

[mortal vine]

yeah no he easy

||dash slash is super easy to dodge too when there’s only one||

[tribal salmon]

||i wonder if a shriek into descending dark would be consistent||

at least this fight is fun

[mortal vine]

yeah, I loved ||sheo||

[hoary anvil]

...you do know the general ai pattern of the fight right?

[mortal vine]

I don’t

[tribal salmon]

kind of?

i know only 1 attacks at a time

[mortal vine]

I beat em 4/5 times I think, haven’t really fought em

[mortal vine]

and ||one sits back to defend the other||

they ||compliment eachother||

[tribal salmon]

yeah i just dont know when to attack is actually safe

fuck man

[stoic cedar]

||one important thing to note about their behavior is that it changes based off of where u r relative to both the brothers. if u r in between the two brothers, they will start attacking at the same time. otherwise, they will alternate attacks.||

[mortal vine]

right

[hoary anvil]

okay so: phase 2 is basically:
||- alternate attacks for a bit until they decide to go for a nail art (wiki says 4-6 without interuption)

• nail art: one will go into a parry while the other goes for the nail art. hitting the parry will trigger an attack from them
• if you go between them, they will both attack at the same time. i'll often pre-emptively dive for this one. i think nail art can override this one though, which catches me sometimes.||

[hoary anvil]

(yeah that was the main point)

[mortal vine]

[tribal salmon]

at this point i know the ai i just need to get a run

i keep just getting hit by random shit at this point

ive made it to phase 2 like 12 times in a row at this point

[twilit heath]

|| ||

idk if yall can even see it

[stoic cedar]

good job! which ||pantheon|| is that?

[tribal salmon]

literally the only attack i get hit by is the double slash

massive ass hitbox

[twilit heath]

first one

[mortal vine]

ggs

[hoary anvil]

(gg, i personally found the 2nd one easier on my initial run)

[mortal vine]

you should be able to ||shade cloak|| in time

[mortal vine]

me too lol

I also found ||colo3|| the easiest

[hoary anvil]

actually, with regards to the ||shade cloak|| suggestion, this is one of the few instances i used ||sharp shadow|| as the extra range is valuable for this

[mortal vine]

of the ||colos||

[mortal vine]

ooooo smart

[hoary anvil]

-# another was ||radiant watchers|| for the exact same reason

[mortal vine]

ye makes sense

gooblight guys, gl @twilit heath on the ||pantheons|| and @tribal salmon on ||radiant oro and mato!||

and @keen stream on ||sly||

[hoary anvil]

-# i'm going for my third ever no-hit ||abs rad||, this time with normal build (wasting ||5 notches on heal charms for a no hit||) rather than a designated build to use special tech + dps optimized for me doing it specifically

-# ((unlike things like ||radiant markoth||, doing it for ||absrad|| is fun for me))

[stoic cedar]

nice! good luck on that! tho why does ur normal build have ||5 notches on heal charms||...

[hoary anvil]

because it means i don't need to play as cautiously as i can almost always heal off my mistakes. ||quick focus + shape of unn|| btw.

[twilit heath]

gn man!

funny that I took less time for the second one

[stoic cedar]

i see, well ive never really used ||heal charms|| in ||pantheons|| before so i cant really say how effective they are, i usually just go for a very standard build like ||qs, shaman stone, strength, twister|| (i actually beat ||radiant abs rad|| with that charm build since i forgot to change it out and ||overcharm|| lol)

[fossil flower]

second ||pantheon boss sheo painter is easier than p1 boss||

[stoic cedar]

congrats! ||pantheon 2 is easier than pantheon 1 imo but still, congrats!||

[hoary anvil]

ah yes, the classic dps check build. i think i did similar, but teching in ||steady body to allow for more aggression and nmg as a final filler for great slash in plats + cyclone to start||

[junior belfry]

|| how do i get trial of the conq + trial of fool achievements? cuz the colosseum is only letting me fight the trial of warrior ||

||or is it a DLC thing||

[tribal salmon]

yeah this fight is pissing me off im not gonna lie

[hoary anvil]

you need to ||beat trial of the warrior to be allowed to unlock (buy) trial of the conqueror, and again for the next one||

[tribal salmon]

they keep stacking on top of each other

[junior belfry]

||i beat trial of the warrior twice but where do i "buy" the next ones?||

oh nvm

im stupid

i js found it

[hoary anvil]

nice

[junior belfry]

did it first try

[hoary anvil]

-# i love getting sniped on ||climb|| ... is there any specific tips for that or just kind of get into a rhythm and react better?

[junior belfry]

lets go

[hoary anvil]

||colo 3|| is known for being a pain, good luck on that one

[junior belfry]

eh

ngl i js did it for the ||pale ore||

[stoic cedar]

yea its pretty much a rhythm thing, u gotta wait for ||the laser to lock its position so u know its safe to jump up (or if not safe, just wait), then keep repeating that until u reach the top||

[junior belfry]

ill do the 3rd one later

for the achievement

[hoary anvil]

-# that and i keep messing up ||plats orbs|| but i just need to remember the approximate patterns for dodging them as it's been a while since i actually payed attention to them

[hoary anvil]

fair

(||colo 2 is also the best one for money||)

[tribal salmon]

yeah i cannot get consistent at these guys

they just keep throwing out new shit

the ai is supposed to be one of them parries while the other charges the nail art but nope i just got attacked by both at the same time ????????????????????????????

[hoary anvil]

consider taking a break and coming back later. works wonders sometimes.

[tribal salmon]

im getting them to like 30% hp each time

[ebon copper]

are you doing ||ab|| runs?

[tribal salmon]

yeah this ai is actually just made from toothpicks

[ebon copper]

morning btw

[round kayak]

||what is this place at the bottom left of the abyss||

[ebon copper]

try to stand on that platform and use a ||spell||

[round kayak]

I used ||the slam||

[ebon copper]

use another 1

[round kayak]

alright

||is it a bossfight|| ?

[ebon copper]

no

[round kayak]

||okey I was worried I might run into the collector||

[hoary anvil]

well yes, but not right now and not the specific challenge i was doing

[junior belfry]

why cant i ||dream nail|| this guy

[tribal salmon]

need 1800|| dream essence||

[junior belfry]

dayum

[round kayak]

||I supposed there is a relic or item to insert in here ?||

[tribal salmon]

nope get ||14 lifeblood||

or somewhere around that i think

[ebon copper]

what challange were you doing than?

[hoary anvil]

in this instance going for my 3rd ever no-hit ||abs rad|| ((this time on ||attuned|| since literally nothing changes besides the obvious))

[twilit heath]

do I get a charm or smth after defeating all the ||gods||

[round kayak]

Nothing happen

[ebon copper]

why you wanna suffer

[hoary anvil]

assuming you mean ||godhome||, no

[ebon copper]

...

[twilit heath]

............huh

do I get.....anything at all....

[ebon copper]

use the|| up spell||

[hoary anvil]

i mean i find the fight fun

[ebon copper]

||radianting|| it isnt tho

i do however wanna start practicing ||anyrad||

[round kayak]

||this one ?||

[ebon copper]

you dont have what you need

[round kayak]

Guh ?

[ebon copper]

you are missing a ||spell||, it can be found in ||qg||

[hoary anvil]

the things you can get in ||godhome|| include:
||- hunter's journal entries

• a special ending, and the achievement that comes along with it. (most difficult of the endings)
• a custom main menu screen if you do a thing called the eternal ordeal hidden in the ceiling of hall of gods (57 kills required)||

[twilit heath]

huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[ebon copper]

||*2 special endings||

[twilit heath]

so its a waste of time

[hoary anvil]

interpretations may vary

[hoary anvil]

depends on perspective

[ebon copper]

its where the game gets really hard

[ebon copper]

fair

[round kayak]

||the map with jelly fish ?||

[hoary anvil]

i've done it twice before, with a designated build though rather than standard
(||once on main file, once on steel soul 112 file||)

[ebon copper]

no, ||queens gardens is the one with the disappearing platforms||

[stoic cedar]

its not a waste of time, first of all its a fun area, second of all ||all but one of the pantheons give a completion percentage so its required if u want to go for max completion percentage||

[round kayak]

||oh i think I need the tear of isma to get there||

[twilit heath]

uh so why did I think pokegeek5000 or achow ask abt ||godhome|| when I was trying to beat ||nkg||

[round kayak]

Alright Ill just continue exploring

[abstract mantle]

Thanks for helping me out. Just beat the game in 3 hours and im gonna start shooting for 1hr 1/2 cause i probs died like 20-30 times on ||watcher knights and thk||, was pretty efficient besides that. Reason really being i didnt have a great route figured out so i tried to fight them ill equipped

[ebon copper]

ye

have fun!

[stoic cedar]

nope that was a random person

it was neither of us

[twilit heath]

eghhh I keep dying in the ||3rd pantheon|| and the ||collector|| makes me too uncomfortable to redo this too many times

[hoary anvil]

-# i have no idea what is being referred to in this statement

[stoic cedar]

this is whats being referred to

[ebon copper]

whats the ||furthest boss|| you have got to?

[twilit heath]

ok it was this guy

[ebon copper]

ahh, k, i want even awake at that point lol

[twilit heath]

uhhh idk the name but ive gotten to the one after the one after ||the collector|| 😭

[ebon copper]

hmm, might have to practice ||collector||

...

[twilit heath]

nah im fine w ||collector|| its just uncomfortable

[hoary anvil]

🧐 i think their idea was you skip it and ||go for the alt ending there|| and then practice at the ||rematch statue|| ... which i mean works... or you could actually practice at the real thing and get the achievement when you win.

[twilit heath]

the one after is where I tend to die or lose too many masks to get through the one after

[ebon copper]

i mean you shouldnt be taking more than 1-2 dmg on that fight

[twilit heath]

shhh

I cannot fight fast bosses

[ebon copper]

also for ||godtamer||, you can just mostly|| pogo|| for the whole fight

[tribal salmon]

not tilted in the slightest

[ebon copper]

i fact i have an vid for ||radinat collector|| only ||pogo ||without touching the wall or the floor

[tribal salmon]

thats like 2 hits btw

[ebon copper]

unlucky, you have the next attemp tho!

[rigid fractal]

||should've ddive ngl||

keep trying you can do it

[twilit heath]

can I get the three remaining charms w/o fighting ||nkg or colo3||