hk-help

[sacred dove]

No

Idrk but ||QSlasg helps also agajnt PV||

[forest pewter]

My guy || twister is. Only better if you are not healing of your doing both then catcher is definitely better||

[forest pewter]

|| it's also pretty usefull for plats u get insane damage if she is on the bottom platforms ||

[sacred dove]

I'm mainly not healing bc I can't

[rustic adder]

||but she teleports all over the place, unless youre speedrunning, i believe doing abyss shrieks is better since she only stays in one place for a few seconds. but thats just my opinion||

[forest pewter]

Phase 4 is scary as hell I avoid || shrieks in it || unless I am at full hp

[forest pewter]

I use||soul for healing or d dark in that's phase ||

[versed heart]

i keep dying at ||fucking markoth|| in ||p5||. any tips or tricks that are not ||charm|| related?

[forest pewter]

I have a pretty good strat but it forces you to use the same charms I.Use

[sacred dove]

I mainly use ||Strenght QSlash, MoP and Sharp Shadow until the Pure Vessel section||

Oh wait I misread mb

Im dumb

[forest pewter]

|| required charms
Strength Spell twister shaman stone
Also u don't wana waste soul on healing
In p5 he will be 11 nail pogos and 3 shrieks long
Here a demo
You wana go for 3-4 pogos when he spins his shield and stay at top two platforms or with wall once u reach phase 2 you will need 3 full shrieks to kill him
https://youtu.be/OnZDQe6nhDE?si=YFFhr9y2D24GfU7s||

[versed heart]

i use ||quickslash, shaman, strength sbody grubsong up until soul tyrant which i swap qslash for mop, i think quick focus can help||

[forest pewter]

Don't use || mop if u wana try my strat cuz it will bounce you too high ||

[sacred dove]

Almost did ||phase 1|| hitless but the ||swords rain|| took me 4 masks for some reason

[forest pewter]

Real

[rustic adder]

||for phase 1: when hes launching spearsa at you just dodge

when he stops and spins his shield, wait for it to get a bit further from him, then pogo him around 4 times. it might take a bit to learn how to do it safely consistently
for phase 2: when he launches his spears just dodge
when he spins his shield, make sure he isnt in front of a platform, or too close to the wall, and then shade soul him twice(once for when his shield starts going away and then another after it returns). the shade soul should also hit him twice per cast, thats why i specified the positioning earlier.
also if you ran out of soul in phase 2, do dash slash on him once everytime he stops
also try not to heal at all during the fight. not bc you dont have time, but rather because you wont have enough soul for phase 2||

jesus, i ended up making an entire essay

[sacred dove]

And the ||climb|| is the worst, I only got once to ||phase 3|| bc of that

[forest pewter]

|| 3 shrieks is already enough for phase 2 ||

On || p5 ||

[rustic adder]

||i dont use shrieks on him cuz he bounces too much on them and makes them miss||

[forest pewter]

Skill issue.

/jk

[rustic adder]

no, i can agree with that

[forest pewter]

U wana know the secret use of || shriek || ?

[rustic adder]

enlighten me

or rather ||envoid me||

[forest pewter]

Tbh i always forget the direction
But || the direction your knight is facing changes how shriek works.
I don't quite remebr which direction
But pretty sure if you do it while knight is facing right side then the boss get attracted towards you
And facing left side makes them knock back be away from you

Since I don't remebee the sides properly it could be vice versa
I recommend testing it on Obblobles ||

I. Saw these numbers in YouTube comments
And yes they are accurate

[forest pewter]

@thick wing also you may find this useful

[rustic adder]

interesting ill test that as soon as I can

[forest pewter]

U mean the normal enemies?

[shell wadi]

yes

[neat karma]

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[shell wadi]

okay

[forest pewter]

I am not trolling

That's obviously cap

I'll test later imma go

[neat karma]

im pretty sure thats true

[shell wadi]

||9/10 times i dont have enough soul for that||

[neat karma]

a good way to kill them is by ||hitting them then dashing away until youre safe, then repeat||

[rustic adder]

||they dont hit very quickly. when you see them about to attack, jump over them, then hit them from behind||

[sacred dove]

||AbsRad is too unfair||

[neat karma]

sometimes theres not enough space to do that, they also can look the other way quicker than you can evade after the second hit

[rustic adder]

||kind of is but also isnt. it has a lot of rng but that doesnt necessarily mean its unfair. it requires you to learn how to handle unpredictable situations. aka using iframes to avoid undodgeable attacks and such||

[sacred dove]

I think I'd need a total breakdown of each of her attacks, when to heal and how to dodge and deal dmg

[forest pewter]

wait is the extra damage around 14-17 ?

[forest pewter]

Ehh not really it just requires really good reaction time

Nope

[sacred dove]

Her randomness combined with the attack overlap (phase 2) makes her unfair

And ||no floor||

[forest pewter]

Technically you are not wrong but you aren't correct either
The thing is if you dodge her attacks earlier they don't over lap

[forest pewter]

||Also if you think u can't dodge a certain attack you may wana consider jump in in void cuz that only deals one damage||

[sacred dove]

Sometimes, I just cannot

[rustic adder]

||also learn when to use ddark to avoid damage. whenever I die to her, I am thinking of the way I died, and how I could have prevented that. and 99% of the time there is a solution||

[sacred dove]

||DDark is risky with no floor||

[forest pewter]

*100% of the time once you have spent enough time on the boss

[rustic adder]

pretty much

[forest pewter]

Oh god that boss sucks

Well which attack is making you suffer and what's your build

Famous ones are pretty easy
It's the random ones like || collector marmu || that are hard

[rustic adder]

||on 4th phase (with multiple platforms) youre only in the risk of falling while you are dodging. and that is not the time when you ddark anyways.||

[sacred dove]

It is tho

[forest pewter]

Just ||d dark when he jumps thats how I beat him On Radaint
Also I'd recommend trying to fit shaman if you can ||

[rustic adder]

||dare I ask, which radiant boss are you missing?||

[forest pewter]

|| I still got tarmua from charmless ascend marmu ||

[forest pewter]

|| absolute radainve mainly cuz of my slow ass reaction time + I am focusing on bindings for now||

It still works but much more risker on || ascend ||

I am not interested in || ab I will do Hitless first then try ab
I have done 14/20 bindings after charmless p4 and p3 I will do rad abs rad ||

[rustic adder]

||abs rad rad||

[forest pewter]

Okay if you wana || take a break after p5 then I recommend leaving rad hog for later so when you come back you have something not too difficult to re gain your skill||

[rustic adder]

||rad hog is harder than p5 wym||

[forest pewter]

|| yes it sure is harder but
If you come back after a year and them try do p5 with no muscle memory it wouldn't be very fun instead u can do rad hog and since you will be doing one boss at a time and slowly gain your skills Back
Just start from easy bosses then try hard ones ||

[rustic adder]

oh fair enough

[broken quartz]

|| i beat hornet, went to the abyss, turned on a switch and got the dash, but nothing else happened? what do i do now😭||

[forest pewter]

???

[undone flower]

go to places you haven't already been

[forest pewter]

Ig You may wana go behind || queen station ||

[rustic adder]

||the shade dash helps you get past the shadow gates youve probably encountered before||

[broken quartz]

||ive been everywhere feels like i only have marked the black walls things that i cant pass ||

[broken quartz]

||ive been to deepnest but should i revisit ||

[broken quartz]

oh RLY

FINALLY

[forest pewter]

Not talking about that I am refring to || fog canyon ||

[broken quartz]

oh yes cause now i ||can go past the black wall!!||

thanks

[forest pewter]

Yeah and one more thing || there's an huge acid lake in fog canyon
Don't go there before you finish the rest of fog canyon ||

[broken quartz]

uhhh alright

|| the one far left? ive been there but also a wall there||

[broken quartz]

do i have to || kill markoth||

[frosty ocean]

Your looking for ||dreamers?||

[broken quartz]

i am just exploring around but || heard it was good to kill dreamers for ending? ||

[frosty ocean]

True

[broken quartz]

so i should?

i have heard || hes very difficult||

[frosty ocean]

But

Uhh

YOU TALK GREEN WHITE RED ORANGE FLAG

[forest pewter]

That's a || dream wariors and I am pretty sure he's required ||

[frosty ocean]

What

[forest pewter]

Nah people are over reacting he's genuinely not that bad

[broken quartz]

|| required for the ending?||

[forest pewter]

|| markoth is a% ||

[frosty ocean]

don’t let him do the hard ending he seems pretty new

[frosty ocean]

What the a%

[forest pewter]

For the hard ones yes he's required

[broken quartz]

i dont wanna do the || hard ending|| can i get multiple || endings on one save?||

[forest pewter]

|| percentage ||

[frosty ocean]

Oh

[forest pewter]

You can get them all one save

[broken quartz]

oki so i can come back and do it

[frosty ocean]

I got them all expect ||godhome||

[forest pewter]

How ever if u get a certain charm before the first ending then u can't get the first ending

[broken quartz]

huhh

[frosty ocean]

First ending is very gud
Hard ending is very sad😭

[broken quartz]

i hope its not || sharp shadow||

[frosty ocean]

Nope

[broken quartz]

oki good

[forest pewter]

Trash charm in my opinion

[broken quartz]

is it the one u talked ab || left side if fog canyon||

[frosty ocean]

Same

[frosty ocean]

Can I see see your inv

[forest pewter]

Nah the charm I am talking about is super grindy to get

[frosty ocean]

Ok

[frosty ocean]

And I just beated it

[broken quartz]

[frosty ocean]

pretty easy to me ngl

And ||path of pain…. ||Uhhhhhhh

[frosty ocean]

raging noises

[forest pewter]

U can do it later once u get bored of || god home ||

[frosty ocean]

I did it

2 times in 2 saves

[forest pewter]

Oh nice congrats

[forest pewter]

Based

[frosty ocean]

||White palace||
Me: easy
||Path of pain last part||:
me: …

[gilded jay]

||what boss do i need here in p3||

[normal furnace]

||elder huu||

[gilded jay]

||also i dunno ive completed 105% and dont know where to get the rest of the progress i know ive got to do p1-p4 +upgrade a charm to unbreakable (1 dont have it rn) and banish grimm/nmkg but thats not enough||

[gilded jay]

ohhhhhhhhh

ok

forgetable ahh boss

[normal furnace]

||turning into unbreaking dont give % but u can do it ig||

[gilded jay]

yeah but it removes

[normal furnace]

did u do ||collo||

[gilded jay]

yeah all 3

[normal furnace]

||elder huu on his own might be a %||

[gilded jay]

yes

imma do that rn

i need to get to ||108%||

[rustic adder]

||did you get all masks, soul vessels, pure nail and 2400 dream essence?||

[gilded jay]

thats one more %

[gilded jay]

yes

[rustic adder]

||do you also have all charms besides the one you mentioned?||

[gilded jay]

||huu done||

[rustic adder]

||huu also adds a percentage seperate of the pantheons||

||so now youre at 106. after youre done with the charms and grimm its gonna be 108, and after the pantheons 110 so 2 more things||

[round pier]

||what is this room in white castle with saws||

there’s so many

[rustic adder]

||parkour challenge, do it and youll find something cool||

[round pier]

||how many rooms||

[gilded jay]

||grimm is two?||

[rustic adder]

||1 for grimm and 1 for getting all the charms||

[rustic adder]

||idk the exact number. im just gonna say, its gonna take a while. and you might get hit a lot with little ways to heal, so I recommend the hiveblood charm if you have it||

[round pier]

I dont

||i think im 3rd room maybe||

[rustic adder]

good luck! you got this

[round pier]

i dont

wait it’s over

||is there an harder one||

[rustic adder]

||i dont think you did everything. did you get something from it?||

[round pier]

||i turned one of the lights on||

[forest pewter]

6 in total not counting secret ones

I think so

[rustic adder]

||yeah, thats just one stage done||

[round pier]

||im out of it tho||

||idk how to turn the other lights on||

[rustic adder]

||the lever you just hit unlocked another part somewhere in the palace||

[forest pewter]

Go back

[round pier]

||i have to redo that part + another one???||

[forest pewter]

No no just another part u can't re do

[rustic adder]

||you dont have to redo it||

[round pier]

Im lost bruh how do i get the map

[forest pewter]

That's the thing u dont

There is no map

[round pier]

So i’m lost forever

[forest pewter]

Tbh It's pretty linear

[round pier]

||what are the white gates||

Wait i think i found the way

||there’s another saw room||

[rustic adder]

||indeed||

idk why i spoilered that

[round pier]

indeed

[forest pewter]

Once u done a section u can't re do it

So those gates appear

[round pier]

||grub souls thing|| charm is clutching fr

[copper salmon]

||tips for the radiance?||

[forest pewter]

||First of all fill up soul completely before the fight
Charms ; : strength shaman quick slash shaman and spell twister
Also I played a bit too aggressive in phase 4 ( plat) which is why I took so much damage

Okay let's start
Phase 1 start with 3 shriek after that hit her twice with nail and boom you are in phase 2
Phase 2 try to get 3 more shrieks and u can also d dark on spikes to make them disappear after that few nail hits later u will reach phase 3
In this phase she goes in middle snd spam swords from above
I recommend doing this nail only so you can heal with more soul
Phase 4 you wana play safely and camp in bottom three platform if she does any attack just d dark and keep upslashinv https://youtu.be/iZ2ZKEM_Apc?si=Qg5yZQhSVM4yImzZ||

[rustic adder]

did you have all that speech copied?

[copper salmon]

||wait what u can remove the spiked with d dark?||

[copper salmon]

real question

[forest pewter]

Yep I always use it whenever someone ask help for her : D

[gilded jay]

yes

[forest pewter]

[rustic adder]

sheesh. it must be a pretty common question then huh

[simple island]

It really is

[forest pewter]

Yep it is

[simple island]

People ask about ||radiance, nkg, pure vessel and watcher knight||… very, very, very often

[copper salmon]

lmao

thanks doe

been at it for an hour

time to take a break lmao

[simple island]

If you spend too long on something, it is always worth to take breaks

[slender pike]

can i get ||unbreakable strength||

i just got ||wings||

[indigo owl]

||have you invited the troupe to Dartmouth?||

[rustic adder]

spoiler this

[indigo owl]

Oh sorry

[sour viper]

I thought stuff upto there needs none?

have rules changed

[rustic adder]

• Aside from the words "Nail", "Focus (healing)", "Map", "Boss", "Charms", "Mask", "Geo", "Bench", and "Shop", consider everything else a spoiler

[tall idol]

hey

[deep basin]

It's everything related to the game now I believe

[thin plover]

Dartmouth

[indigo owl]

||*dirtmouth||

[sour viper]

oh, rules changed nice

[deep basin]

||if you have the troupe you can do it whenever||

[sour viper]

yes you very well could

[slender pike]

wheres that

[slender pike]

no

ive been

[forest pewter]

Oh mb i forgot about unc spoilers

[tall idol]

can anyone help me with ||pure vessel||

[sour viper]

anything you struggle with in particular?

[forest pewter]

Which attack are you struggling with ?

[slender pike]

do i need it for ||unbreakable||

[tall idol]

that one attack where ||he shoots out projectiles||

[forest pewter]

Its literally how u get them

[sour viper]

yes

[slender pike]

ill go find it

[forest pewter]

|| shade cloack ||

Literally Easiest attack

[tall idol]

yeah but bro

[deep basin]

then why do you ask lmao

[rustic adder]

||you need to summon the troupe for it, which is found in an area accessible through the starting place||

[forest pewter]

Yeah what's the problem

[sour viper]

||daggers I'm assuming, so you'd wanna shade cloak for that but usually you can just sway in between with a jump and wings||

[tall idol]

It's either me not timing it correctly or I need ||sharp shadow for it||

probably just me tho

[sour viper]

timing def

dont rush it, its a fixed pattern

[tall idol]

oop

[forest pewter]

Nah || sharp shadow is unnecessary as hell you are timing it too soon or you were too high in air during the attack ||

[rustic adder]

||i always do a high jump forward before dashing through them. you just need to learn the right timing||

[sour viper]

||the farther away you are from pv during it, the easier it is to dodge||

[forest pewter]

[tall idol]

||my bad then, I usually just dash when he does the attack||

[sour viper]

spoiler

[tall idol]

oop

[forest pewter]

No you need do it a bit after the attacks starts

[tall idol]

yeah ik

I just prob do it a bit sooner

[sour viper]

just practice it and youll get better at it

[tall idol]

gotta work on that

what's the optimal ||charm|| build for it

[sour viper]

Idk about optimal tbh

[forest pewter]

|| strength quick slash
Although mop might be better but on p4 u will benefit more from shaman cuz of watcher knights nad markoth ||

The || last two notches just comes down to prefrence cuz there's too many good charms ||

[sour viper]

||I use dashmaster (coz I like dashing around lol), quickslash, long nail, shaman in pretty much everything||

[tall idol]

||I usually use fragile heart, fragile strength, quick heal and mop||

just cuz im used to it

[forest pewter]

No don't use || quick focus
Quick slash is better in value ||

Like far more better

[tall idol]

ik

[sour viper]

||heal builds aren't really the best I think coz the thing is you could be tanking and dealing damage instead which is much better than wasting that soul, just spell usage is better||

[tall idol]

my dodging is just dog poo

[sour viper]

good build, I approve

[forest pewter]

No || unbreakable strength for pv|| is insane

[tall idol]

I just gotta work up on dodging and then I can switch out ||quick heal for quick slash||

[forest pewter]

Yeah that's not a bad idea

U should definitely do that

[sour viper]

the thing is ||pv staggers kinda quick so with quickslash you can reach that faster and if you do need to heal you can get 2 in easily then||

[tall idol]

true

[sour viper]

Well anyways, good luck! I think you got this now

[tall idol]

||I might do my current build for the first half of pantheon 4 and switch out quick heal for quick slash after||

[tall idol]

thanks

[forest pewter]

I should do || charmless pv || to ig

[copper salmon]

should i be using charms like ||quick focus|| and ||baldur's shell||? im worried they will become crutch charms for me :/

[neat karma]

They will indeed

Some times yes but most of the time theyre not needed

You just gotta practice dodges more

[copper salmon]

right..... but im worried ill become dependent on them

also they feel like they reward bad play

like healing when ur not supposed to

[copper salmon]

real

git gud

[neat karma]

A lot of people do

Then they get stuck at higher skill battles because those charms dont have the same degree of effect as they used to

Yeah

[copper salmon]

maybe its fine to use them once or twice if i get really stuck on a boss

im wondering whether to use them for ||the radiance||

[neat karma]

||Yeah, use them where you feel you dont have enough of a window to heal, just dont make it the norm and you should be good||

[copper salmon]

gotcha

ty to both of u

[rustic adder]

do you mean ||the radiance||?

[copper salmon]

wait thats the name?

||lmao i confused it with the diffuculty in godhome||

there i corrected it

[rustic adder]

yeah ||I was very confused why youd use quickfocus for radiant bosses lol||

[tall idol]

||eyyyy I beat pv once in the hall of gods||

||I'm getting better at this icel||

[warped kite]

Nice

Now it's gonna get Easier from here

[thorny adder]

guys

i have a problem

[sharp jolt]

yea

[sharp jolt]

what is your problem

do you want to ||radient sly?||

[thorny adder]

||can't beat 2nd form on radiant||

[sharp jolt]

ok

||second form is..?|| can you explain it i dont remember

or i can check rq

[thorny adder]

it's easy to remember

it's just

||DASHING TO YOU LIKE A SKY ROCKET AND SPINS LIKE SONIC||

[sharp jolt]

oh yea

that pain

umm

||he will dash a lot and then once he spins toward you id reccomend backing away and attacking||

[rustic adder]

||for 2nd form I just wait in the middle for him to stop bouncing, quickly dash before he does the saw attack, then when he stops, i turn around and hit him. then repeat. I never get hit this way||

[sharp jolt]

||while hes dashing stay near the sides of the map but move towards the middle so you dont get cornered||

[sharp jolt]

interesting

[thorny adder]

||im using sharp shadow so i can dash easily but even the cooldown of shadow cloak is not enough||

[sharp jolt]

that is probably a better strat

[fiery vale]

i have 156/158 creatures in the journal, does the radiance (and i guess ||absolute radiance||) count?

and before u ask i already have ||menderbug||

[sharp jolt]

||radience counts, abs rad idk||

[rustic adder]

||if you stay in the middle hell never hit you with his dashes||

[thorny adder]

oh okay i try it then

and also

i have 2 more bosses that i can't defeat

[sharp jolt]

||yes abs rad is in the journal but not a reqirement to complete it, rather it is an entry that only has a number and appears once you get it||

also spoiler ||menderbug|| pls

[fiery vale]

im sorry 😭

[simple island]

No they don’t
And though you did not ask, you should know that ||menderbug||… is not needed to get the achievements

[rustic adder]

||on normal difficulty?||

[thorny adder]

what is a ||menderbug||

[sharp jolt]

lol youre fine also

wiki proof

[fiery vale]

ah i see

[sharp jolt]

so i think ||abs rad doesnt matter right now||

[thorny adder]

||didn't beat nkg in my life before but trying to do radiant on both||

[fiery vale]

so i just need to get ||the normal radiance||

[simple island]

There are like, some ||140 enemies which are required and then some 20 entries that add to the counter, like the max amount of entry can be 140 or 141… depending on how many you get||

[sharp jolt]

yes and you said ||you were missing another entry?||

[fiery vale]

||yeah and idk which one it is||

[simple island]

Normal ||radiance is definitely not needed for the hunters mark||

[fiery vale]

idk why i marked that as a spoiler

my brain is fried

[simple island]

You can get everything without beating the game

[sharp jolt]

ummm

[simple island]

Commonly missed enemies by zenonira
||• Goam
• Mossy Vagabond
• Aluba
• Charged Lumafly
• Gorgeous Husk
• Crystal Crawler
• Garpede
• Pale Lurker
• Flukemunga
• Void Tendrils
• Durandoo
• Duranda
• Maggot||

Check if you have all these.

[sharp jolt]

big ask but can you send screenshots of your ||journal?||

[thorny adder]

guys help please

[fiery vale]

okay so im definitely missing ||goam||

[simple island]

This is the best wiki page to know what is or isn’t required
(Tons of spoilers ahead)

||https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Hunter's_Mark||

[fiery vale]

yeah just wait a bit

[sharp jolt]

ok

[sharp jolt]

ok this will be useful im also going for ||hunter's journal completion||

[simple island]

All the bosses you are missing are in ||godhome||

[thorny adder]

ik my problem is to do all ||radiant||

[sharp jolt]

||radient markoth is pain, i havnt done it||

[simple island]

So you want help with ||sly radiant|| for example ?

[thorny adder]

yeah

[sharp jolt]

||i dont do radients but overcharm if you dont already||

[thorny adder]

i can live so you see if im doing any mistakes

[sharp jolt]

im here

ok ||overcharm is good||

[simple island]

Bruh, I didn’t link the fandom wiki

You gave the same link

[sharp jolt]

wait what

when i clicked that i swear ong it took me to the fandom one

💀

no i am not joking

[fiery vale]

this takes a while to upload damn

my internet is so bad

[sharp jolt]

im am not tripping

[simple island]

What I do for ||sly is basically only use nail arts
It’s quite slow, but the strat is to keep close to them, in order to bait the full moves and punish when they are done||
Rince and repeat until death

||https://youtu.be/doM3Q6l15os?si=G3JP1OAL5fW13jhb||

[rustic adder]

|| so for markoth
for phase 1: when hes launching spears at you just dodge

when he stops and spins his shield, wait for it to get a bit further from him, then pogo him around 4 times. it might take a bit to learn how to do it safely consistently
for phase 2: when he launches his spears just dodge
when he spins his shield, make sure he isnt in front of a platform, or too close to the wall, and then shade soul him twice(once for when his shield starts going away and then another after it returns). the shade soul should also hit him twice per cast, thats why i specified the positioning earlier.
also if you ran out of soul in phase 2, do dash slash on him once everytime he stops

this is basically what I did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXZRqCZCBtA ||

[fiery vale]

second part

[fiery vale]

first part

[sharp jolt]

hmm i really dont know srry

[fiery vale]

xd

all good

[delicate raven]

how to write with spoilers

[rustic adder]

|| the build was strength, Mark of Pride, Soul eater and shaman stone ||

[fiery vale]

|| on both sides of ur messages

[delicate raven]

ty

||whats main tips for Uumuu and Zote||

||in 3rd pantheon||

[sharp jolt]

||uummu is to learn how the jellyfish react and how they shoot once you hit them||

[delicate raven]

||i really hate his attack when electricity goes after you||

||its really hard to dodge it||

[sharp jolt]

sounds stupid but just keep running

[delicate raven]

||heh||

[rustic adder]

|| you can climb the walls, then let it slowly descend and the electricity will never catch up ||

[sharp jolt]

also gtg sorry

[fiery vale]

yo its the ||lumafly and goam|| tysm

[simple island]

||Uumuu I would recommend practicing in the hall of gods|| first, as it is basically a new fight
I really recommend using ||dream wielder as you can get tons of soul on uumuu using it, and you usually can’t get soul without it
After that it is just a matter of blowing up jellies, using shade soul to blow them while staying the fuck is pretty effective
Once uumuu is popped you can shriek or shade soul for big damage
Also the walls and the acid pool are always safe spots to dodge||

[delicate raven]

oh nice tip!

[delicate raven]

hmm ill try it now

||what about Zote? his attacks hell random||

got it

[simple island]

-# ||zote|| isn’t just rng that is just an excuse
There is no real perfect solution for ||zote, you need to respect the fact that, if he just finished an attack, he may just start walking forward
Usually you avoid that by preemptively walking away
When he summons explody zotes I tend to just use ddark for the iframes as it gets really messy
Ddark is also really useful when he does the flail attack
Ddark is also really useful when he does a big jump and goes offscreen, you can catch him just as he lands which makes you dodge the big shockwaves and lets you pummel them while they are standing back up||

By the way, every time you use ||spells ||you should absolutely use the "||quick cast||" key and not the "focus" key
Using the correct key makes the ||spell|| activate like half a second earlier, which you don’t want to miss out on

That can help to cast that ||ddark|| just a tiny bit faster to get you to dodge, a tiny bit earlier

[gilded jay]

I think i fucked up ||i was with brumm about to destroy the lantern but instead i just left the room||

is there a way to revert this

[simple island]

Not using ||strength for zote is pretty bad
Don’t the minions not die if you don’t use strength ?
Strength is just completely broken op||

[delicate raven]

i didnt really get this part

[simple island]

for a late game charm build I would say that ||shaman/quick slash/strength is a base line then you can add stuff like heart/spell twister/any combination of grubsong, nmg, dream wielder, sbody to finish; you can also replace one of the first 3 charm with MoP||

[simple island]

Go in the options menu, go look at the controls

[delicate raven]

fr

[simple island]

The game never tells you about it, which is probably why you don’t understand what I’m talking about

[delicate raven]

wait

lemme open hk

[royal oyster]

I am missing a ||p3|| boss

[delicate raven]

bruh i have 105h and 😭😭😭

[royal oyster]

It’s in between ||collector and hive knight||

[gilded jay]

???? cause now he isnt there

[delicate raven]

ill say my charm set now

[simple island]

Could you share a screenshot of that wheel that show the ||bosses at the front of the pantheon ? So we can tell you what it’s gonna be ?
I think it’s just elder Hu, it always is
The boss is in fungal waste, not far from the entrance to city||

[delicate raven]

||WAIT THERE IS A QUICK CAST BUTTON?||

I DIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT

bruuuuhhh

YESS

||i mean why game doesnt say about it??||

[simple island]

Don’t think so
Getting out the room mid "cutscene" breaks stuff
You can see if he is back in ||deepnest but afaik he won’t be

You can still finish the Grimm troupe quest "the normal way"
You don’t loose out on getting max progression or anything
You used to have a choice, and now you are locked in one path ||

[delicate raven]

||yeah i didnt even know about it||

[gilded jay]

yeah but i want the charm

[simple island]

Hollow knight is not a flawless masterpiece
It has one flaw, you found it

[delicate raven]

this is my set

ahh

[simple island]

Well if you are on ||PC you can use mods to give it to you after doing the regular ending of the quest
But hum… yeah, you are shit out of luck
The charm is shit anyways so like, not missing out||

[royal oyster]

It is

[delicate raven]

||but 2 additional masks sometimes matters||

[rustic adder]

|| you dont escape NKG from p5 even if you do the banishment afaik ||

[simple island]

I personally find that, the most important effect of ||mark of pride is screwing your muscle memory and make it so you feel really bad if you take it off
I personally don’t think the extra reach really gives that much of an advantage compared to just… being close to the boss||
So use ||shaman stone|| instead

At the end of the day charms are subjective, many people like ||mop despite it objectively not being the best choice out there for pantheons||

[gilded jay]

i think you do, unless you do a godhome save which i will later

[simple island]

You still get ||nkg in p5|| whatever you do

[gilded jay]

damn

[delicate raven]

ok ty yall

[gilded jay]

might as well praccy him

[delicate raven]

i am gonna try now

[gilded jay]

He looks like cancer

[olive mirage]

He’s not that bad

You just gotta learn each attack and then he is easy

[gilded jay]

Welp i gotta do ||nkg and p1-p5 now||

[gilded jay]

i watch a guide on yt

[fiery vale]

@simple island i got the achievement thanks for helping

[simple island]

Shit… hum… yeah ok fair

Anyway

[gilded jay]

well thanks guys!

[simple island]

Man do I hate when people look up the results of choices because they think the game is gonna screw them if they do the wrong choice, while in reality the choice barely has an effect and it’s actually much cooler if you don’t spoil yourself what the result of the choice is

[olive mirage]

Yep

[simple island]

Like just do the ||Grimm troupe|| in a way that feels right

[olive mirage]

I’ve given up preaching that though because people just do it anyway

[simple island]

Stop min maxing, both charms suck ass

[olive mirage]

Well you could have just asked here

[simple island]

:knightnod:

[gilded jay]

this is not my first playthrough

[copper salmon]

finally defeated ||the radiace.. was tempted to look up the ending on yt but getting it myself was well worth it||

ig im just left with the ||pantheon endings||

||does the background change with the most recent ending that you get?||

[simple island]

||Each ending you get has a unique background attached to it
Getting that ending gives you that background||
You can select the background you want from the title screen

[copper salmon]

ouh ok

i liked the first bg ngl

yee right

just unlocked them

havent progressed them

[acoustic sigil]

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[languid radish]

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[shell wadi]

i tried. i just did the spoiler thing

[acoustic sigil]

Well it clearly didn't work

[shell wadi]

i cluld see that

how do i use that then?

bc i seriously need help

if i do the / spoiler it wont let me put an image

[acoustic sigil]

That's not how you do it

[acoustic sigil]

Read this

[shell wadi]

||yeah just below mantis village. but everytime i try to go up i have no idea where to go. i do pogo on the mushrooms but i just cannot get where i want to be and these mantises keep killing me||

omg tysm

[marsh harness]

me lasquei

[delicate raven]

||BRUH I DIED ON HORNET||

[simple island]

You have to push into the ||mantis village
It is the only way forward, the game locks you down at the bench until you get further in the village

The enemies themselves are quite tough, you need to accept the fact that they have big attacks, just get a hit in, then dash away, then come back for another, rince and repeat
You can’t just tank damage||

[round pier]

yo i found ||a secret room path of pain, am i cooked?||

[delicate raven]

bruuh

yess

[round pier]

Bruh it’s 500x harder than ||white castle||

[delicate raven]

u get personal doctor

[round pier]

I havent finished ||white castle|| yet 💀

[delicate raven]

yh u get ur money back

[round pier]

||i cant even get past the first thing||

[round pier]

I got it for free on game pass tho

[delicate raven]

yoo

[round pier]

The music kinda good tho (ik im gonna hate it soon)

[delicate raven]

yep

i was watching a stream how someone plays it

passes"

thats plain

[round pier]

||i cant get past first saw||

Im cooked

[delicate raven]

fr

bruh just forget about it as nightmare

u wont even get an achivment

[round pier]

Do u get like 1%

[delicate raven]

||nothing||

||just cutscene||

[rustic adder]

||path of pain doesnt count as a %||

[delicate raven]

||and some brain issues||

[rustic adder]

but it fun tho

[delicate raven]

very

[rustic adder]

especially in || steel soul ||

[delicate raven]

||i mean its not that hard if u have bee charm||

[round pier]

I know what im gonna do next

[delicate raven]

naaaahhhh

do nottt

save yourselff

[round pier]

||how long does it take to heal tho?||

||the bee charm||

[delicate raven]

||8secs i guess||

[round pier]

DAMN

[delicate raven]

if imnot mistaken

[round pier]

thats op

[delicate raven]

8 or 10

[round pier]

Oh

still good for ||white palace|| tho

[delicate raven]

||some times it can help||

||for instance u can jump on spears and wait for heal||

[delicate raven]

definetly

[round pier]

I havent beaten ||white palace|| yet but i found ||path of pain|| randomly

I was hoping there was one of those soul things hidden

Little did i know..

[delicate raven]

hahaha

[grizzled pulsar]

||if i already got 1 ending in my save can i stillg et the other ones in the same one?||

[thick wing]

Yes

[delicate raven]

fr?

||what happens after you see one ending?||

@thick wing

[rustic adder]

||when you reload the save, you spawn at the last bench you rested at. from there you can either do the same ending again, or continue the game and do another one||

[delicate raven]

woww

[rustic adder]

yep very convenient

[round pier]

how many stages is ||pop||

[glossy raptor]

help
yk when ||nkg|| does his ||flame uppercut||

i normally ||shade dash thru and then backtrack to avoid a hit||
but sometimes when i ||shade dash|| he scuttles backwards, and if i try to ||normal dash away|| then he hits me everytime

[timid venture]

Hello, I have a problem with Scarab, can someone help me?

[gusty wave]

||https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/jrYvuu6LO2_lT1pAq?invite=cr-MSxMc0MsMTYxNjgyMjQ5LA|| i feel like im not supposed to be here yet

am i supposed to have an ability to dash up or

[glossy raptor]

theres an ability in a different area you needa get

[gusty wave]

oh whereabout

[glossy raptor]

top right of the map

[gusty wave]

is it that ||crystal dash|| thing?

[glossy raptor]

yep

[gusty wave]

i love backtracking ;-;

[neat karma]

#1057825333841240104 / #modding-discussion depends on the issue

Also you should probably use lumafly

[round pier]

how many stages ||pop||

[acoustic sigil]

4

If we mean the same thing by stage

[round pier]

Whats ur meaning of stage

[weary glen]

guys i can get the full ending by ||defeating all the dreamers there is nothing else?||

[acoustic sigil]

Rooms

[acoustic sigil]

||No||

[balmy bobcat]

Shwmae all! I'm playing on PC (GOG) with a pro controller. Everything's working basically perfectly well, except that my + - buttons aren't doing anything. I can still open menus with the 'i' key on my keyboard, but it's not ideal for quickly pausing and potentially quitting out in a tight spot in steelsoul. Any advice welcome. Diolch yn fawr pob.

[simple island]

I’ll admit I’m not familiar with how gog handles controller
Steam has really great integration and will recognise whatever controller you put in and make sure every key works
Gog may not
This is probably not hollow knight related, and you should probably look for more general fixes
Those may include using a third party software specifically designed to make pro controllers work (usually by turning their inputs into Xbox controllers inputs)

At least I know I some exist for playstation controllers

[glossy raptor]

help
yk when ||nkg|| does his ||flame uppercut||

i normally ||shade dash thru and then backtrack to avoid a hit||
but sometimes when i ||shade dash|| he scuttles backwards, and if i try to ||normal dash away|| then he hits me everytime

[sacred gulch]

shit wrong ss

[round pier]

What happens when ||u leave pop||

like you leave the game

[sacred gulch]

you probably get reset to the nearest bench

unless you finished it

[round pier]

Bruh what

What about ||that one lever||

[sacred gulch]

i dont know anything about pop yet

[round pier]

Tag it 😭

[tiny dragon]

you just end back up in the bench you last sat on but you should be able to get back there anyways if youve got that far

[sacred gulch]

idk which hidden door it is

[sacred gulch]

wym

[round pier]

||i was at the last jump and i had to go bro 😭||

im gonna commit war crimes

[tiny dragon]

use spoiler tags ||like this||

[tiny dragon]

hell nag

[sacred gulch]

oh spoiler tags

okay

[tiny dragon]

you should be able to get there though i trust

[sacred gulch]

which charms am i missing though?

[tiny dragon]

its easy on second go

[round pier]

||does that one lever save||

[tiny dragon]

er you can tag images as spoiler too make sure to do that

[round pier]

i really dont wanna redo it all

[tiny dragon]

oh god just check pins

[round pier]

Theres a part i dont like

[sacred gulch]

yeah i realised

[round pier]

I hope

I got to the point i got in like ~3 hours

i dont wanna redo it 😭

[tiny dragon]

youre missing ||a charm somewhere hidden in greenpath|| and ||a charm in the hands of a master of nail arts||

[sacred gulch]

you can get ||charms|| from ||nailmasters||??

[tiny dragon]

not from them but you should maybe look around and really check each npc

[sacred gulch]

i never knew that

[sacred gulch]

oh okay

[tiny dragon]

||how many nailarts do you have||

[sacred gulch]

2

[tiny dragon]

ah you cant get it rn then

[sacred gulch]

|| dash slash|| ||cyclone slash||

[tiny dragon]

the other one you can get rn

[sacred gulch]

||how do i get the third nailart ||

[tiny dragon]

||boy you really should explore areas specifically one||

[sacred gulch]

||which one||

||going to Howling cliffs now || i see the area i didnt explore so im gonna explore it now

[tiny dragon]

||there are amazing things waiting for you in greenpath look around every corner there||

[tiny dragon]

sure explore that first as well

explore at your own pace

[sacred gulch]

alright

thanks

[tiny dragon]

i hope i didnt spoil too much because it specifically felt like you needed directions to find them

np

[sacred gulch]

no you spoil anything

still thanks alot

[tall hamlet]

does this do anythin?

[sacred gulch]

yes it does

[sacred gulch]

||dream nail him to start the grimm quest ||

@tiny dragon yoooo watch what i fond

[tiny dragon]

you should ||hit that mf with a dream nail NOW||

[sacred gulch]

||idk what it does and im afraid to go in ||

[sacred gulch]

YEAHHH

[tiny dragon]

go in

OH AND

[sacred gulch]

ok

[tiny dragon]

BEFORE I FORGET

[sacred gulch]

?

[tall hamlet]

thank you sire

[sacred gulch]

wa

[tiny dragon]

||THERES A KING IDOL IN THERE AND IF YOU PICK UP THE CHARM BEFORE THE KING IDOL YOU CANT GO BACK IN||

thought i would say

[sacred gulch]

ohh

its a charm???

[tiny dragon]

ooo

i meannn

[sacred gulch]

why not

[tiny dragon]

hidden reward

[sacred gulch]

lol

[idle tiger]

ERM

[sacred gulch]

i still dont know which one it is

[idle tiger]

ACTUALLY

[tiny dragon]

because ||the area gets locked after you pick up the main reward||

[idle tiger]

IT IS A ||ARCANE EGG||

[sacred gulch]

well thats dumb

[idle tiger]

🤓🤓🤓

[sacred gulch]

nice

[tiny dragon]

OH MY BAD THATS EVEN BETTER

[idle tiger]

[sacred gulch]

im gonna go find ouit whats in there before i get spoiled

[tiny dragon]

also ||ARCANE FROM LEAGUE OF LEGENDS ???||

[idle tiger]

EW

GET OUT

LOL PLAYER

😝

[tiny dragon]

yeah theres ah

||a relic||

[idle tiger]

GO SHOWER AND TOUCH GRASS HOLY

[tiny dragon]

just that other than the main reward

[tiny dragon]

[sacred gulch]

I GOT TRICKED

I PICKED UP THE STUPID THING BEFORE I GOT THE THING
n

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

one less thing to sell to ||lemm||

😭

[tiny dragon]

gg

[sacred gulch]

i didnt even care about the money

||lifeblood core is nice tho ||

||did i need jonis blessing for that||

||i just put on everything blue and went to the blue plin ancient basin cuz yk it was blue ||

[haughty pecan]

just arrived here, what happens if i select one of these?

[sacred gulch]

||idk anything about the pantheon but what i know is those are modifiers||

[haughty pecan]

is there a reward for doing this?

[sacred gulch]

@tiny dragon

sorry for the pings

[tiny dragon]

i mean ||you couldve also gone around looking for lifeblood cocoons for 6 hours but i didnt want to see you torture yourself like that||

[sacred gulch]

oh lol

thanks

[tiny dragon]

||theyre difficulty options, see what each of them do theyre pretty self explanatory, but the nail isnt so im going to say that the nail binding cuts your nail damage in half basically||

[haughty pecan]

which one are u supposed ||to pick up||

[sacred gulch]

i only need 14

[sacred gulch]

||im talking about inside the lifeblood core area|||| your supposed to apparently skip the charm and collect the arcane egg then go back for the charm||

[haughty pecan]

so it makes it ||even harder ok, gotta beat it on "easy mode" first||

[sacred gulch]

i did not go for the egg tho

[tiny dragon]

||challenge options yeah||

[haughty pecan]

thought ure ||locked out of it once u take the first item||

[sacred gulch]

||told u it was modifiers||

[rustic adder]

||if that were the case, the charm would become unavailable and you wouldnt be able to 112% anymore||

[tiny dragon]

||yeah you get locked out when you take lifeblood core but theres another item there too||

[sacred gulch]

so i currently have a casual 20||masks||

[haughty pecan]

so you jsut take the || egg first and than u can take the charm too?||

[sacred gulch]

you are

[sacred gulch]

yeah

it isnt even that important im just salty i cant get it anymore

[haughty pecan]

is ||jodis blessing and fragile heart +8 enough to go in? or do i need more||

[sacred gulch]

you can just do the || colo's to get geo tho ||

[sacred gulch]

you need ||14 mask shards total||

[tiny dragon]

should be

[haughty pecan]

i can use ||fragile stuff in gods home right? but how can i equip it i didnt see a bench before the challenges||

[tiny dragon]

y3yyehah

yeah you can

||they dont break in godhome||

[haughty pecan]

just found it it was ||above lmao||

can i || fast travel or do i always have to walk here to do these challengers||?

||is absolute radiance and true vessel onl here in gods home?||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[tiny dragon]

||umm to get back to godhome yeah but you can set up a dreamgate there too||

[haughty pecan]

so nice ||that i dont lose the fragile stuff, so prob use something like shaman stone fragile strenth and heart and quick attack?||

[haughty pecan]

||usually im lazy and but dreamgate next to fast travel||

[tiny dragon]

||theres a shortcut||

[shut sparrow]

||Heart isn't great. I'd use something like steady body + grubsong/nailmaster's glory or catcher/twister instead. The rest is great||

[haughty pecan]

||i dont know catchter/twister and nailmaster, do i get nialmaster form killing the blacksmith? i let him live lmao should i kill him ?||

i can show u what i have just need to restart the game

[shut sparrow]

||mb. Usually people have all charms when at that point. It's very late game.

Yes if you want recommendations you can send an image of your charms||

[haughty pecan]

i nearly bet the ||second one||

but ill take a break and try tomorrow, didnt even have all good charms equipped now, just want to change the build

[shut sparrow]

||you have catcher. It's the one left of shaman stone. That's probably the best you can do with the last two notches right now. However shape of unn or dream wielder + grubsong are also great.||

[haughty pecan]

||oooh so dreamwielder is like soul catcher?||

is ||grimmchild good?||

[shut sparrow]

||that's honestly very impressive. If it's too difficult you can do it later. People usually struggle there even with full equipment. It's kind of meant to be the last thing you do. If you find it fun however of course you can do it now||

[rustic adder]

||not really, hes just a pet thats almost useless|| but hes really cool and cute

[shut sparrow]

||no, not exactly. It only increases the soul gained when striking enemies with the dream nail and makes it quicker. It's very helpful in certain situations though might take a bit to learn||

[haughty pecan]

so i wasted 2 slots on him? lmao

[tiny dragon]

||dreamwielder|| is underrated imo

[haughty pecan]

||wait people use dream nial while fighting???||

[haughty pecan]

thank you thats very kind

[tiny dragon]

||it lets you charge dream nail about 3 times faster and grants 66 soul (33 soul is 1 spell cast or 1 focus/heal)||

[tiny dragon]

yeah i use it ||whenever a boss gets staggered, it wont get them out of staggered state or while theyre in the stance to parry an attack||

[shut sparrow]

it's not even close to 3 times faster. Iirc it's like ~44%

[tiny dragon]

or ||when i cant gain soul from hitting a boss||

[tiny dragon]

its still very fast

[shut sparrow]

it's 37.5%

[shut sparrow]

indeed

[tiny dragon]

i mean it doesjt take a year

[haughty pecan]

so do this for a start?

[tiny dragon]

pretty good

[shut sparrow]

that's great. However if you think ||unn would help you a lot you can try that out as well||

[haughty pecan]

can u point out to me what i am supposed to do after finishing the ||game||? i thought where i am nw is where im supposed to be lol

[haughty pecan]

ill be honste i dont even know what it does lol

never used it

[shut sparrow]

||you can go wherever you want. Getting 112%, other achievements or the other endings might be a goal for you||

[haughty pecan]

i beat ||nmg and all dream boses i found and trial of fool,||

[shut sparrow]

||it enables you to move while healing. If you don't know whether you'll like it you can just try it out for a bit||

[haughty pecan]

no WAAAY lmao

||so take grubsong and that instead of quickslash? quickslash feels quite op but i think normal attackspeed only loses u what 1 attack?||

[tiny dragon]

||quickslash is a huge increase to your dps j think||

[haughty pecan]

||i might have to google what that means. dont know what 112% means|| but i did hear about ||other endings, are they more difficult with more bosses? ||

[tiny dragon]

just ||replace soul catcher with shape of unn probably||

[haughty pecan]

||is it every 5 fights i canheal?||

[tiny dragon]

||112% is basically max completion including additional updates to the game||

[haughty pecan]

ok will do

[tiny dragon]

||yeay after 5th boss theres a bench/spa room||

[haughty pecan]

isnt ||pantheon that 112%?||

[tiny dragon]

||pantheons are included yeah but it isnt as scary as it sounds||

[shut sparrow]

||no. Pretty much always keep shaman, strength, qslash. It's only about the last two. Catcher is really strong already but unn can be nice as well so you might like that. Just try it out.

Other than that there is also a great charm at salubra in crossroads where you bought shaman stone, longnail, etc. Some people dislike it but I personally think it helps a lot. You can try that out with grubsong as well if you like||

[tiny dragon]

hmmmmm ||what was that charm||

i csnt remember

i can just check on my own actually

actually no clue

[haughty pecan]

whats the name? i think i have bought everything, but it isnt the one which requires ||40 charms right||

[tiny dragon]

||the things thay require charms are only charm notches i think||

[tiny dragon]

o shit do go to ||salubra||

[haughty pecan]

how strong is ||fragilke strenght?? i beat it so fast now p2||

[tiny dragon]

||it uhhh like gjves a 50% increase to nail damage?||

[haughty pecan]

crazy

[tiny dragon]

||you get a 1.5x nail damage i think||

[haughty pecan]

||quick focus||?

is that the one?

[tiny dragon]

mhm

[haughty pecan]

think i have everything else

[tiny dragon]

||maybe check sly shop to be safe||

[haughty pecan]

||sly? quick focus makes u heal 33 faster it says sounds useful too||

am i missing someone?

[tiny dragon]

||try looking at the edge of the kingdom||

[haughty pecan]

it seems i missed a part of the ||map lol its a whole area||

ill do it tomorrow, thy for the tips guys

[tiny dragon]

yeah have fun

[haughty pecan]

btw how do u do the ||multiple endings? if i get void heart will that be deleted once i finish the game? so i can do another ending?||

[tiny dragon]

||you just get locked out of one ending when you get voidheart and thats just normal ending||

[rustic adder]

||getting void heart, locks you out of one ending, and it wont be deleted, it stays on you for good||

[haughty pecan]

the normal one?

[rustic adder]

yes

[haughty pecan]

oh so whatever

ok tyt

[somber hill]

u will need at least 2 save files for all achievements anyways

[idle tiger]

@tiny dragon i need help why are you a league of legends player this is a very serious question that needs immediate answering

[tiny dragon]

i was dragged into it

[idle tiger]

lol

[tiny dragon]

by evil friends

[vapid tide]

||P4AB|| LETS GOOOOOOOOO!

[tiny dragon]

holy

[vapid tide]

Here we go...

Oh God...

[naive oriole]

Alright, I think it's time to throw in the towel and ask for some advice. I'm doing ||Absolute Radiance, and she has given me more trouble than any other boss, by far. I need some pointers on what I might be doing wrong, and how I can get better consistency.||

General advice will be helpful, but in case there's any issues specific to how I'm playing, I've included a video showing my latest attempts so that you have some footage of my gameplay. Attempt #140 is actually the furthest I've gotten so far, so I'm sure I can get there with a few more days of practice, but maybe I can expedite the process a bit by asking for help.

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ_titK83UE||

[rustic adder]

||are you gonna AB that too? 👀||

[vapid tide]

One answer

[rustic adder]

[vapid tide]

Yeas

[vapid tide]

[shut sparrow]

congrats!
||In case you didn't know you don't need to do them at the same time for the lifeblood door||

[shut sparrow]

||the name is steady body. Quick focus is also very nice however it costs 3 notches so usually the shaman, strength qslash combo is just better||

[vapid tide]

Well I wanted to do it that way because I like to do everything in order haha

But Thanks!

[shut sparrow]

alright good luck then!
It might take a lot of dedication

[vapid tide]

I've already done all the ||pantheons|| so I'm not giving up on this one!

And I have already mastered almost all the bosses

[shut sparrow]

it's still a tough challenge

[naive oriole]

There are still some surprises in store for you. :)

[warped kite]

Here are the things I can say
||USE DDARK AND SPELLS
They're literally the best way to damage AbsRad
try saving your mask for P4 cause that's where you would need it the most
Also for P2 use DDark for the Sword Zone that rises and takes half of the map to quickly make it go down
and for P4 try not Chasing AbsRad cause you might get in some Awkward situations
And only go for attacking when she's in one of the 4 middle platforms||

[vapid tide]

I'll see what happens next haha!

[rustic adder]

||youve more or less learned the attacks. however your reaction time could be a bit better. you should also try to learn to use ddark for iframes. I saw many instances in your vid where that coukd have been done to avoid damage. also you should try to keep track of your shade dash cooldown. I see you dashing into the light beam too early. if you see that shade dash is not up yet, try to stall with double jump if possible. as for the phase with multiple platforms, do not chase her. if you try to go after her, youll only get yourself killed. instead stick to a platform and let her come nearby. if she is too far, just focus on dodging and wait. the pursuit is not worth it||

[vapid tide]

Cool secret zone!

[shut sparrow]

||you seem to be doing pretty good already though there are some things you could improve on.
First of all you should probably switch out some of your charms. I didn't check what exactly you were using but mark of pride for example is almost useless.
Other than that for the orb attack you have been doing fairly well however if they don't spawn directly above the ground always try dashing below them and also don't immediately jump afterwards. Otherwise they will follow you around instead of hitting the ground. Only jump if they are too close to the ground and you can't dash below them.
The spike floor seems to be a pretty big problem for you. Note that you can get rid of it for a short time if you dive on it. This is extremely helpful and will make the first few phases a lot easier.
Consider trying to heal. It takes a bit to learn when and when not to go for a heal but if done correctly you can almost heal after each attack. Try to figure it out for yourself.
Last but not least use more spells. Descending dark is very helpful if you're in a tough spot because of the invincibility frames it gives you and to get rid of the spikes. But especially shriek you should use a lot more. Pretty much on every burst attack (the star-beams/swords for radiance's face) you can shriek safely once or twice. Other than that only go for shrieks right after or during an attack so you don't get hit trying.

Probably missed some stuff but that were the things I noticed||

[warped kite]

Oh and
||For the last phase Keep pogoing AbsRad
And send the Orbs off the screen cause they get Deleted when they go there for some reason
I'm not gonna question how so use this to your advantage||
And if you want
I could Recommend a ||Charm build for AbsRad||

[bright sorrel]

thats probably the hardest way to do final and not what youd wanna do

[rustic adder]

really

[naive oriole]

Thanks for the advice. ||I learned pretty early on that abyssal shriek is a really helpful spell against Abs Radiance; I've been using it less with my more recent attempts because with my charm setup, I noticed that phase 3 comes right after I max out my soul, which helped me practice my pacing. I didn't know that D-dark disables the floor spikes; that's really good to know.||

||I'm also terrified of switching out my charm build because all of my muscle memory against Pure Vessel is with my current charms, and I'm pretty sure MoP has been helping me land parries during his triple slash.||

[rustic adder]

then what do you recommend instead

[atomic grove]

||in p3 how the hell do i hit sly in his second phase||

am struggling D:

[naive oriole]

I might just be stupid, but ||D-dark is basically impossible for me to time correctly. I always get hit before the dive commences.||

[shut sparrow]

what's so ponder about it

[bright sorrel]

just pondering

[rustic adder]

oops

[shut sparrow]

||charge a nail art, wait for him to come to you, dash away and turn around and hit him with a great or dash slash. Use your soul for spells whenever you can.
At the start of the second phase if you have soul you can take a step to the side and shriek to deal a lot of damage||

[rustic adder]

I0 just deleted a message bc I wanted to reply it to the specific person, but i forgot to actually copy it :

[shut sparrow]

||stay on one side and do full jumps to lure the orbs off screen. Only attack radiance with the nail if they teleport to your plat or the middle. Use shade soul if they are far away||

[rustic adder]

||when he bounces all over, just stay in the middle. as he gets close to you and hes about to do the spinny blade move, dash away from him. then turn around and hit him before he moves away. I recommend mark of pride or at least long nail charm||

[shut sparrow]

||you can also use nailarts which deal more damage and have more range without costing notches||

[rustic adder]

||what if youre out of soul?||

[shut sparrow]

||you don't need soul to attack||

[bright sorrel]

[bright sorrel]

hm

[shut sparrow]

what

[rustic adder]

idk ||pogoing her still feels more reliable. but ill try that method too||

[bright sorrel]

thats a better strat. ||dash slash|| better tho

[shut sparrow]

never done that

[bright sorrel]

:catfacepalm:

sounds like someone needs to hop on blindfolded strats

[shut sparrow]

I don't think that's what it sounds like

[bright sorrel]

wdym

[shut sparrow]

I don't even play the game rn :ponder:

also blindfolded doesn't sound fun

[rustic adder]

||only great slash works here. without nailmaster glory it can take a while to charge tho||

[shut sparrow]

||both work. And you have the time to charge it||

[bright sorrel]

its ok i have ||climb/final|| to be theoredically consistent

[shut sparrow]

did you ever do floorless?

[rustic adder]

||why would I not wanna see moth mommy as shes obliterating my ass||

[bright sorrel]

no i never did many ||absolute radiance|| challenges mostly just ||1.0||

i retired to play GD tho

[shut sparrow]

when was the last time you played HK?

[bright sorrel]

probably not long after i uploaded whatever the last video was

[shut sparrow]

5 months

[vague moon]

Only the hardest are left

[hoary anvil]

i personally am a heal build gamer so my advice may not apply for everyone, but here goes

personal build: ||DPS quick slash/strength + survivability quick focus/shape of unn. strength is the most replaceable, quick slash allows for double hits when jumping up to hit abs rad, and the heal charms allow a lot more heal opportunities, including in plats.||

attacks: ||for default orbs, jumping up to bait them into a more sideways velocity before landing while going under to bait them into the floor works good and also can allow hits on abs rad, though it works less good when the orbs spawn on ground level, classic for sword wall/wall of light dodge early but with shade cloak. you can also dodge them with ddark, which i find easier against wall of light due to the slower speed making it easier to not mess up charge time. ddark will make you immune to the floor spikes too, so you can note that the spikes are about to be under you and choose to dodge an attack with it, particularly if you also hit abs rad with it. beam burst (and sword burst) subsequent waves can be dodged mostly by noting where the previous wave was and that it won't spawn the next one directly on top of it. particularly useful to land a ton of nail hits against beam burst in plats.||

healing: ||there's a guaranteed itemless heal if you dodge the 3rd beam burst and start healing immediately. quick focus makes things easier generally, and shape of unn allows adjusting to heal on sword rain/beam burst/sword burst/technically orbs (though that ones risky), and stalling for more heal time against sword wall/wall of light. shape of unn also allows guaranteed heals against sword walls in plats due to fitting your hitbox under the sword on the bottom center platform, just make sure you start healing early enough to change before the sword, but late enough to not stop healing with the sword on top of you.||

general info: ||top center platform is the most commanding in plats as it allows targeting them nearby with a bunch of platforms. bottom center is safer, i'll often drop down there for orbs or if i don't want to deal with beam burst coming directly from the side sometimes. if they teleport on top of you, ddark for damage and also to make sure they don't catch you with an instant sword burst. in peak phase with baiting the orbs off the top of the screen to despawn them, i'll start on the platform and either do a double jump or pogo the boss 3 times for damage while jumping up from the platform. sometimes follow up with a ddark into the platform, especially if an orb wasn't baited off screen or the boss teleported close still. supposedly the initial teleport favors left in odds but i haven't verified this and it isn't that important anyways||

[fast portal]

bro wrote an essay

[pearl solar]

Is my charm build good

||shamen, spell twister, mark of pride, quickslash/unbreakable strength||

[fast portal]

for what?

[pearl solar]

||p4 and then p5 after||

[obtuse mist]

It’s well rounded

[pearl solar]

||I don’t know which one is better to have quick slash/ or strength||

[fast portal]

yeah thats the issue

have both

[obtuse mist]

Between those 2 I’d go with the latter

[fast portal]

remove||mark of pride or spell tiwster||

[warped kite]

here's what I can say
||Save up some Souls before you fight them and when you do SPAM ABYSS SHRIEK
Try damaging both of them
Cause when one of them goes into the Second Phase
They gain some HP
and just try to Dodge the TouHou V2 and Pray that with enough Abyss shriek and Shade Soul they're going to die
I can't say much cause it's all just RNG and just being good at dodging
So I guess you can Practice them in HoG even tho it doesn't matter at all||

[steep iron]

Ey, im trying ||P1|| but i get obliterated by ||Oreo & Matol/metal||

[shut sparrow]

gwnj

[vivid fog]

tag ||P1|| and ||oro & mato||

[vivid fog]

nonsenf

[steep iron]

but ||oro and mato|| are sooooo hardddd

its probably a skill issue

[vivid fog]

i know 😞

[shut sparrow]

please use spoiler tags in this channel || like this ||

[steep iron]

but i just can't seem to dodge the ||1-2|| attack

[steep iron]

alr

[vivid fog]

now tag this

[vivid fog]

and this too

[steep iron]

good?

[shut sparrow]

||you can practice them in the hall of gods. A big thing to note is that they never attack at the same time if you're not in between them. So try to avoid getting sandwiched and in case it happens try to get out using dive for the uframes and/or dash||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[steep iron]

hmm

[shut sparrow]

well they are a difficult fight and take time to learn

[steep iron]

maybe its my ||charm build||

[shut sparrow]

charms aren't everything but a good charm build can certainly make it easier. What are you using/do you have right now?

[steep iron]

||S-Stone Catcher Q-S Mark||

i have ||10 notches||

[forest pewter]

Reall

[shut sparrow]

||but the ones you listed costs 11||

[steep iron]

wait realy?

[forest pewter]

Spam || d dark ||

Free win

[steep iron]

oh i do have ||11||

[steep iron]

i tried

[bright sorrel]

this isnt rly actually advice, tho

[shut sparrow]

||shaman stone and quick slash are great. Catcher is also pretty strong. Mark of pride isn't though. While it can be helpful it's not really worth the cost and there are much stronger alternatives for the cost||

[bright sorrel]

and something this channel does too much

[steep iron]

what should i use then? ||long nail and steady||

[shut sparrow]

do you have every charm?

[steep iron]

nope

most

[shut sparrow]

can you send an image of the ones you have? images also need to be spoiler tagged btw

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[forest pewter]

Ya

[steep iron]

that took me way to long to figure out

[forest pewter]

|| unbreakable strength || fr fr

[steep iron]

alr

this?

[forest pewter]

Perfect

[steep iron]

alr?

now my skill

I DID IT

FINALYYYY

[forest pewter]

Now do it
Again

[steep iron]

shit

close one though

did it

2 masks lost 😄

again

again

i love it

[copper salmon]

try telling that to me.. i cannot play this game at all without ||mark of pride|| lmao

||like the voidheart, it has become a part of the bearer and cannot be unequipped||

[forest pewter]

Yeah it's a crutch that's why I only use it when I absolutely have too

[warped kite]

yeah I also HAVE to use ||wayward compass|| to not get lost
Even tho I don't even buy ||Quill|| or the ||maps||

[steep iron]

||P1 I DID IT||

[warped kite]

NICE

Congratulations my friend

[steep iron]

Ty Ty

First try today

i don't have it unlocked yet haha

yes

[copper salmon]

wait what? how to u explore without ||quill and map||?

[warped kite]

I memories the entire map...
And I wish I was kidding-

[copper salmon]

bro

damn

[warped kite]

||wayward compass|| is just that good

[copper salmon]

you are the ||true hollow knight||

[warped kite]

Yippee!

[steep iron]

cuz he doesn't know how to make a map without a mind

[round pier]

im becoming soulless, any tips on ||pop last section||

[warped kite]

keep practicing
||PoP|| isn't an easy thing
But it's gonna get Easier once you beat it for the first time

[round pier]

The other rooms were so much easier

Why is this one so hard

[warped kite]

welcome to ||PoP||

There's a reason why it's even called ||PoP|| in the first place

[simple island]

You can ||cdash at the start to skip a few spikes||

[round pier]

I figured that out

In the very first try of this room

[simple island]

For the last segment there is this image that flots about

[round pier]

I found out ||if u dash on the wall behindthe statue u can skip one more of those walls||

[simple island]

Yeah
Not sure it is that worth it

As the height itself is quite precise

[crystal tide]

i'm worth

[round pier]

I got used to it

[steep iron]

i realy wanna visit the ||white palace||

don''t have enough ||essence||

[round pier]

I had a soul before ||white palace||

[warped kite]

Hi Worth
I'm outer

[thick wing]

bro i died by hornet on boss arena 2 of her and I beat her and forgot to get my soul back

now it is stuck

[forest pewter]

It's not that hard on second playthrough