#hk-help
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For real
is that some kind of inside joke here
basically if you give the same answer as someone else but slower you get snail reacted
anyways what charms should i use for full nail build
ohhh
Cough
I always recommend using a mixed build to use both ||spells and nail effectively||
It’s a ||key, that can let you open a specific door, you probably already encountered before||
The design of the ||key, may remind you of a certain enemy you fought before||
For a more straightforward answer, that enemy ||is located in city of tears||
yeah but its fun doing ||pantheon|| nail only
but it also depends on what upgrades/abilities you have and what charms you have
tags iirc
Which || pantheon || are you on
Why are you talking about ||pantheons and elegant key|| at the same time …
WAIT A MINUTE
One is like… so much more late game than the other
because i was curious about the ||key|| and its name
???
I need to see your inventory cuz u might have a made a mistake
Or maybe not 
iirc you can't make mistakes in Hollow Knight
I have all the ||spells|| dude unless you mean something else by that
Or can you?
It’s just that you… usually, use the ||key like, somewhat early in your playthrough
And not while you are at 100+ % doing pantheons||
Did u upgrade them all?
I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE THINGY WAS CALLED DAMN
Ohhhh

yes
I told you they had it
Well that was not clear at all 

L

anyways full nail build how
First you use ||nail ||only build now u l me
U will regret your actions
not recommended iirc
doesnt mean its not fun to use it
but a full nail build would be
||Strength, QS, MoP, Sbody, NMG||
||whats nmg again||
||nail master's glory||
tags
if you say so
refresh iirc
||Cyclon slash|| is 100 damage without || fury || on its own
If u know how to get all 6 hits
Nail build against ||mantis lords|| is fun
what about the others
I just blast ||spells ||•at em
53 but close enough

Tags
man

||formulae
GSlash: ceil(nail damage * 2.5)
DSlash: ceil(nail damage *2.5)
CSlash: 6*ceil(nail damage*1.25)
Strength: ceil(nail damage *1.5)
Fury: ceil(nail damage *1.75)
Strength and Fury = ceil(nail damage * 1.5 * 1.75)
Fury and G/Dslash: ceil(nail damage * 1.75 *2.5)
Fury and CSlash: 6ceil(nail damage * 1.75 * 1.25)||
what does ciel mean
Ceiling function
Aah ic
please call it cf when around me
what
THAT DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE WHY IS IT SHORTENED TO CIEL WHEN ITS SPELLED CEILING WITH THE E BEFORE THE I
i dont like the word ciel ok
no I just suck at spelling iitc
the correct spelling is "ceil"
Im guessing it's just a typo yeah lol
yeah but mathematically we do
with ties rounding to the nearest even
it uses int datatype which by default ceils iirc
nerd
go check out the amount of damage your nail does with ||elegy|| and check back with me
Is ||elegy|| actually worth using or did i just waste 2 hours grinding for ||grubs|| for nothing
it literally just says 50% more damage
it's not worth for most things
||it's not for nothing, since it is a percent and an achievement||
fucking explodes
||elegy||? you're looking at the wrong thing
||elegy is 50% total damage (half)||
I meant 50% of the damage
yeah that floors...

Ohhh
I finally understood what rounding to the nearest even means
Ints by default just drop the decimal
this gives an error so tf did they do?

they probably convert from float to int at each step in the calculation
and C#'s implementation for doing so rounds to the nearest even
Typecasts to integers from floating points do not do any kind of rounding as yis said
Other way around shit
figured it out, by default it was giving me 31 on manual typecasting. Type Conversion gave me 32
typecasting to int gives 31
Does c# not do implicit typecasting
but the damage for ||Strength rounds up||
nope, gives an error
Ew c#
C++ better iirc

HK should have been made in Unreal Engine
Ah ic, I wrote my little test in cpp to double check siince im not gonna bother with c# on linux lol, wasnt aware of that
you can implicit typecast int to double but not vice versa 
just floor or ciel it iirc
fair
Suddenly programming
All of this, truly was necessary in order to properly judge the worth of ||elegy||
Is this a programming help
anyway, safety is cringe so c++ is still better iirc, it gets mad at me but it'll still let me do it 
(Kinda interesting I’ll admit)
(no)
Yes that’s why c++ better
As long as it’s c++ yes
also yes im aware this doesnt work i just needed to force the warning somehow lmao( actually nvm this shows the unsafeness very well it was totally planned and stuff )
Gonna go fight ||pure vessel||, this good enough?
yeah looks fine
gluck!
yeah thats fine
thanks
It works it just doesn’t do what you want
do you know how to change knight looks easyer way possible
where can i find some ||mask|| no i dont know which ones i have
Are you talking about skins ?
that is true ig
i think soo
If yes then the answer is go in #modding-discussion install "lumafly" and get custom knight from it
thanks
There are a ton of tutorials in the pins of that channel
There are a lot at ||sly, 3 in crossroad, 1 in greenpath, 1 in fungal
For those in the early game||
Getting to ||7 mask should be easy enough
Getting masks after that requires serious effort, so don’t expect them soon||
If you want to round a floating point create an int equal to it subtract that int and then round up to 1 if it’s .5 or over and add it to the int
Easy
Sorry not divide
Subtract
I’m dumb
(There is also another one in ||dirthmouth that comes from doing something with an npc in fungal||)
I remember seeing someone manually add an output for every number for an odd or even function 😭
Me I did that
why just why
why not just... std::round 
Well I had a program do it for me
Boring
ok true
can u show me on the map and ping me when you reply cuz i wont see it
The cpp file it created was like 200 Gb
this sounds off topic
no I mean someone manually typed out
if(number == 1){return true;}
if(number == 2){return false;}
for literally every number upto 1000
but if no one needs HK help we can talk abt it
but I'll still recommend moving to something like #hk-general, #off-topic, #hk-discussion or #sk-discussion
Yeah well I made this for every number up to the integer limit
i do
pretty sure Azerod is helping you iirc
I’m leaving now anyways
Like you want a precise location ?
Uhhh
||Queen station
Stone sanctuary
The room below the entrance to greenpath in crossroad
The room just right of the crossroad hotspring
Grub reward
The room down right of mantis village
||
Got to go to work 
like show me on the map
ok bye Yis
Can’t you like
Read ?
Those are really precise descriptions
||queen station|| is pretty vague
No ?
it's literally like right there
It is, one room
i dont even know where ||stone sanctuary is||
to the right
im at work currently 
||Greenpath||
It’s in ||greenpath||, it should appear on your map if you have visited the zone near it, it is in the lower section of it
is it here
yeah
do i have it
i got 6 ||masks and 3/4 shards rn||
it's literally there...
I mean I’m on discord at work a decent amount but I don’t think it’d be a good idea to be on discord during the 30 minute drive to work
where
bottom right
Try just screenshoting and using a simple image editor tool
Yeah I do usually
can u just cirlce it bro
theres a lot of areas in the "bottom right"
Bro read

literally just bottom right of the image you sent
are u talking about the ||stone sanctuary||
yeah...?
o
i thought it was somewhere else in greenpath
Yeah ||stone sanctuary is indeed the stone sanctuary||
great circle
And as I’ve said here, while replying and pinging you
It has a ||mask shard|| in it
Ahhh
Can’t wait for them to come back in two minutes complaining about the ||room being dark||
Calling it
Ah yes
i was gonna complain about the ||warrior dream||
is ||no eyes hard||
Not really
there's no 2nd phase right
Less of a second phase and more of just a slow rise in challenge
Yes use an|| shriek||
||you need to shriek while standing on the stone that you are standing on in the pic and then see what happens||
do you have the ||ws version?||
you can't ||Shriek without shriek iirc||
i thought he had the first one
||ascend with gorb||
||that's wraiths and they don't need to necessarily have it||
oh ok
Does he know?
Eh don't it's just| || essence||
what do i need to know
How much || essence || u got so far?
get upgrades iirc
cna you tell me a vague place where a ||essence|| tree might be cuz
im at 1157
||City of tears near the gaint elevator ||
ew ||essence trees||
They are cool 
How do you people figure out this stuff
I skipped || markoth|| by ussing them to get to || white palace || 
you don't iirc
Internet
Obviously
normal isn't even that bad 
He was beating the hell out me back then
but yeah normal is free
Can i shade the groundpound?
tags btw
a
b
i said it in non spoilery terms
descriptions count iirc
i didn't say ||desolate dive||
which i could've
anyways, can i turn it ||shade||
||ground pound still describes how the ability work, and that's a spoiler||
Wanna know how or just wanna know that you can?
Show me your map
i'm not playing HK rn
imma check
where at
Guys where am i suppose to go now
I have gotten ||crystal heart and double jump||
spoiler tags 
explore for previously inaccessible regions
wsup
right of here
I have already explored this im going in unexplored terriotry rn in ||city if tears||
can u tell me where the tree is next to the ||elevator in cot||
No just trust me go right
but can find it
can u show me on map
Show map
Where did you die
Somwhere here
@winged trench
remember to use spoilers
I think it's below that
i alr have do u know any other place
Go kill a boss or something 
Oh wait
@winged trench did you || dream nail the broken vessel's grave that gives alot of essence ||

i dont think so
i dont wanna fight ||soul traitor if i can get it w/o doing that 😭 ||
where he at
U can fight him later
Just use the ||stag to hidden station and then keep going left ||
Here's another ||mask shard|| location
bet ill head there after this
alr
how far left do i gotta go
1 km
what
Like end of ||far left in ancient basin
But don go in abyss||
0.66 miles
It's like at the end of it
where the tree is?
Left
I DID NOT MEANT THE TREE I SAID U HAVE TO || DREAM NAIL ALSO LEFT DIRECTION ||
||Uumuu got their ass kicked lmao||
i can't find ||quirre||l though
and i can't go down
there is so much acid
Go to ||uumuu then||
Where did you die?
tags
tags

i got my shade back
tags smh
Ok
just use ||Cdash||
i did
i didnt find him but i found this
Left!!!!
@winged trench here
that's ||BV|| what
|| lk ||
||Lk||
u didnt mention i had to fight him
Fuck my spelling I meant || lk ||
You do
tags and yes
here
Yeah that's supposed to be a surprise 
how

||mantis claw||
||this is after Uumuu right?||
It gives like ||400 essence || so worth it
ywas
have you tried from the other exit from ||Uumuu||?
yes
yes, but i can't manage to get|| cdash ||on the wall
i just slide into the acid
just hold the button on the wall
||or use your Djump to get back one the wall first||
i'm trying
i mean this wall btw
i just keep getting my ass kicked by this damn wall
o ok i only need 50 lol
why are ||Cdashing off of that wall||

no wonder you aren't getting it
Huh
literally just ||Cdash|| of the floor...
where then
you know that's a feature right...
Nope, that gets me into another wall
cancel the ||Cdash||
when you are under the opening
I am currently in that very room
you missed an entire other opeining 
WHERE
Ok
What attacks do you struggle with?
its more the speed in wich it deploys them
If it's mainly the speed you should practice for a while (if you haven't already)
hi
Hi
Do you need help with anything?
I'm trying to get || the hunter's mark achievement. I only need to kill 8 shielded guys, 10 fat guys and 2 electro wizards in colloseum. iirc the electro guys are only in the third one so I have to enter it at least once but which colloseum would be most efficient for farming the others?||
1 or 2
I think 2
but I don't have to finish the run so I wasn't sure if there are more in third one
Do third first
Because it might have enough of the other things
generally Lumafly is recommended
i watched a yt vid where soem guy used scarab
Lumafly
oke then lumafly it is
Youtube is old af
Lumafly is newer
facts ill use lumafly
They probably pull from the same source so it just doesnt matter tho
like I am not joking, I can bet the person you watched is called fireborn
ohg lumafly formerly known as scarab
:O are you in my walls
pretty sure Luma has more mods or smth
Did they move the list theyre pulling from, thats hilarious why would you do that
Scarab+, it was originally designed as a better version of Scarab before being rebranded and being made blue, I remember being here when that happened, that blue colour change sucks imo
Thats just an incompatibility for no reason
idk
I think it was something with Scarab not having an option for public mod submissions or smth idk
All
||Any Radiance 3.0|| 
oke
oooh i wanna play randomized
there are still like 50 other mods not on luma or scarab
Thats what i started with
I actually have never done a rando
accessrandomizer?
tf is that
rando4 i think
when does the next version of rando release
tf what
fym there isn't
Never
I just realized why tf is it sorted alphabetically instead of most relevant
Because you selected that
how install skin mod
whoops ok my bad
Custom knight
I see no option to turn it off
There is a sorting menu somewhere
ty
I'm not at my pc atm
anything else i need i got rando4, skin, and benchwarp
All the dependencies
it auto installs no??
Yes
there's this thing
ok good
the skins themselves
Those auto install
I'm aware
how
what
Check the message in #modding-discussion
ColleteMSLP skin list is best place iirc
ty
1 l 2t's smh
i've been playing for so long i've gotten pins and needles in my hands
HBKit have his own website for his skins right?
Try ||any radiance 1.0||
tags iirc
Her, and no
when do u think i should mess with mods?
also that requires manual install
to both of that
I didn't know HBKit was female till now
after 112% probably
though if you want skins its fine at any point
Ive been stuck at ||Hornet|| for like a day now, any tips on how to beat her?
can i do it with my steam version?
add spoiler to the word ||hornet||
|| like this ||
After you give up on hollow knight because its too hard
why is the loading screen so ugly
Because loading
cause its a loading screen
Done
Dont be agressive
im lagging
bro I just finished ||second one and there was literally zero fat guys.|| if you don't know something or you're not sure it, just don't reply or say I don't know please. I just wasted my time cuz I believed you
this is embarrassing
||get a better computer||
||Hornet is a pretty fast, your best strat is hit and run to position yourself for the next attack
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT FACE TANK OR GET CORNERED
she has only 4 attacks iirc
Dash: just jump over her and hit her like once or twice and run away
Dash (but mid air): she'll dash at you from mid air, after she has taken her aim, simply move away from your positiion, again hit her a few times and run
Javellin: She'll throw her needle like a javellin at you, jump over the javellin and be aware cause it come back as well, if you are close enough, hit her.
AOE: She'll spawn and AOE around her, just stay away from her
if you have the soul use your spell to hit her from afar||
you gotta be really fucking passive fighting ||hornet||
whos gonna tell him hes gonna have ||to fight her again||
why yall x'ing me
nuh uh
I said do 3 first
Did you get the ||mask shard?||
yeah I did that and I did 2 next. also there are 6 of them in the very early of the first one
We'll see how im gonna do, I've already spent a day on this boss;-;
i just beat this guy i took a nap in class first
boo yah
Which ||warrior dreams have you beat?||
will i be able to ||dnail him|| after i talk to the lady now
can u name them
i haven't beat ||soul traitor yet||
you need 1800
she said i need 1200
||no eyes markoth xero galien marmu elder hu gorb||
i've beaten ||no eyes xero marmu and gorb||
but i beat ||gorb|| normally not the ||dream version||
do they all give 300-400?
i do NOT want to fight ||markoth...||
100-200 i think
||Markoth||

man ive watched vids and all of them complain about him
hes only hard on ||ascended and radiant||
Thats ||without the floor||
idk what that means but ight
^^^^
||no floor||
I think im gonna give up
so where is ||markoth||
are you fighting ||the first or 2nd version||
show inv rq
Spoiler
Wdym ||first or second?||
hes fighting first
i didnt put spoiler
me when no spoiler
nevermind typo

If you say so
yeah...
shes... annoying but learnable
fuck i cant tell
which ||cloak|| is that
||hornet pt 2... i hope she dies||
It took me a day and i still cant learn anything
||shade||
||Shade||
||markoths in kingdoms edge||
it took me like 16 hrs so dw
most ppl took forever on her
a lot atleast
||2nd version took me 3 days in play time||
also like
go sleep and try her again in the morning 
It took me 2hrs
i did it first try but ||hornet two|| fucked me over big time
where at tho
show map
the spikes kept throwing me off vro
I was talking about ||hornet 2 btw||
We'll see, im completely fucked, plus i keep on dying to those shitty flies whenever i try to go to ||Hornet||
i wont argue, hk is a difficult game
and im not allowed to say skill issue since this is #hk-help
You just said it
skill issue
Oh ||there’s a hidden bench right before the fight||
oh you dont have ||kingdoms edge|| map
how it feels to spread misinformation
dont think so
can u show me urs so i can get the map
1s let me mark
ok
aw hell nah
Well not really hidden but like one room before
hk sounds like a really fun game to mod '
Yes
can u show me how
red main entrance green entrance that you can unlock from other side blue ||corni||
Lumafly
isnt there a psa for this
||corni?||
Alr i quit
map guy
nooo
so i should go thru the red?
||cornifer corni just objectivly better||
Its becoz he's cool
*sight bapadana
Ik he's really cool
go back ig
||kingdoms edge|| is hell to traverse without a map
so when does he dissapear
WAKE UP NOW!
entered room but didnt find him

big ass schnoze
where is it?
Bapanada
where actually tho
In the ||bapanada|| shop
i really explored the whole area with no map
Do you want to know where ||markoth ||is?
yes please
can i pass ||path of pain|| parkour with this amount of health ?
Its here.
nah i dont think so
i got like 36 health
But you cant ||heal||
so does it better if i use ||hiveblood|| instead ?
tips for ||ascended markoth||?
Spoiler tag the text too please
tips for ||ascended markoth||?
||Use dash slash for the first phase and shade soul the second||
How do i do it ||without nailarts?||
Why do you want to
Because im really bad at them
forgot ||dash slash|| was a thing, cheers
so i reached|| the hollow knight|| though, i feel as if i'm still missing a lot
also i haven't beat them
What items do you have?
many
So over 10
Beat him to see your completion %
Thats not bad
that isnt how u do it. ||u have to view the lore tablet adjacent to the bench
||
What are these mushroom things? They bounce me upwards, but not enough so I can get anywhere with them
||pogo them||
||pogo?||
Hit down
don't tell them
ty
let 'em learn
Yes
Yes
I was using right and left sides thjis whole time
Are you playing in 3 hours?
no
Ok
||kingdoms edge||
It's okay
But where can I actually ask about it?
Ok, how?
just get good sincerely
there's no other way
and also have willpower actually since that takes so long
Kay, thx
Is ||Deep Focus|| good?
on boss fights? no outside of it? yeah
Okay
NO
Why's that?
Look at that cost
Just gotta be good enough 🥱
totally
Especially with little notches it's a nono
||too long to heal = you get hit before its done||
not always
it kinda depends on which boss it is
During parkoir
it can be beneficial by ||indirectly giving you more soul for more heals/spells. essentially every boss has opportunities to use it as well. depends on how u like to play the game too||
To do that, first you need to do ||radiant hall of gods with the nail binding||
||you can use it on marmu?||
I thought charmless was already pretty bad
except you can't do that unless you put mods
I know
Need help with getting different skins
Hi neb!
Is it possible on my ps5
||you can just use nail 2 which deals the same damage as nail binding nail 4||
no, you can only mod on pc
Thank you
beating the entire game only for you to practice something
good build for ||colosseum first challange||?
show your charms
ok one sec
Once you're at this point of the game beating it again won't usually take very long. Also I never said it was reasonable, just that it's possible
||just add grubsong and steady body imo||
||or if you use narts often put the narts charm||
what do i replace it with
or put ||spell twister if you use spells often||
let ||quick slash and shaman|| there and put any of the ones i said
||charms that improve your normal attack aren't very good for the colosseum. Focus on nailarts and spells. So charms that help with soul or spells like catcher, twister, shaman, grubsong (+ weaversong if you like) or eater are good. For nailarts nailmaster's glory is very strong for the colosseum||
real
||I have exactly enough Geo to get Quill, should I?||
is this good?
yes that's very good. Though ||steady body isn't great. I'd consider switching steady body and grubsong out for soul catcher||
yes
Okay
the one next to ||shaman stone||?
@dusty moat ||your maps will be incomplete without it|| so its like the first thing you should get after going back to ||dirthmouth||
I waited till I ||got C dash..||
||soul catcher is to the left of shaman stone, yes||
skull emoji
Ok tnaks im gonna try now
||good luck
Remember you will have a lot of spells with this build and your normal nail wont be the strongest. So keep reminding yourself to use spells and try to always charms a nailart when you have the time||
im not good at moving with the ||nailart|| charging
so i mess up
||got both white fragments and am in the abyss area what i do now||
Should I ||sell|| my ||Hallownest Seals?||
ok done, same build also for second?
Yes you cant use them for anything else
Hi Neb!
Yes
Hi, E
i changed ||soul catcher|| with ||rapid generation|| or whatever it's called
yeah pretty much
||you'll get used to that if you practice more||
I just need ||437 more Geo for Lantern||
||do you have the charm equipped. If yes then just look around in the main room||
Show me your map
Go to ||kings station and kill the enemies in the room above for fast geo collection ||
I don't have ||Kings station||
Then how did you get to ||basin?||
||Mr. Dung||
||there are multiple ways to get into basin like the tram||
||or dung defender, yeah||
any tips for ||pantheon of hallownest||?
||quick slash||
Also ||everytime you die remember to practice again||
(very lategame spoilers)
hii sorry to interrupt but i have a question regarding the ||void idol|| 
i'm on my very first save file and currently trying to ||beat all bosses on attuned/ascended/radiant||, but my scared a** ||left zote to die|| in the beginning so i haven't fought ||GPZ|| means i do not have ||his statue in the HOG.||
do i need to start a completely new savefile ||where i rescue him and therefore get GPZ||, or can i get ||void idol entry without having fought him?||
Also || use strength if you like using nail ||
Yes
You need to reset
||practice the bosses you struggle with in the hall of gods. Bosses with changes to the arena or other gimmicks can be practiced on ascended. Do that until you can beat the bosses you struggled with consistently. Also make sure you're using the same charm build you'll be using it the pantheon for practice as well. Once you have practiced the bosses you struggle with just do another attempt. If the same bosses still trouble you then practice them more. If you got further then you can now practice the next boss you died to or struggled on and repeat. Eventually you'll beat it. For charms mainly use qslash, strength and shaman stone. The rest is up to you. I don't recommend sharp shadow, baldur, thorns or stalwart. The rest all works fine. I personally find steady body + grubsong or nailmaster's glory depending on the boss works best for me but catcher, twister, shape of unn or other charms might be better for you||
don't be sorry to interrupt. Asking questions is exactly what this channel is for
damn
ty though
ts too annoying
||pretty sure you don't need to reset as long as he is dead and not just not rescued||
thanks! but you diddnt had to write an essay
bro i hate how discord changes it
it looks so cringy
kill me
: D
you can turn it off in the settings or put \ in front of it manually
Actually you dont need to reset but you do to get the ||entry||
are you talking abt the ||void idol entry? You can get that without Zote||
Btw i think the|| hunters journal adjusts what entries you need to get for the hunters mark by the choices you make in the game||
it doesn't
||void idol or similar optional entries are never needed||
i alrd have|| hunters mark||, you don't need ||void idol|| for it
. just wanted to try to get ||void idol entry|| because i haven't done that yet and wanted to opt for a new challenge
ya you can still get it. GL with that! 
GHG 
Also thanks for reading the rules 
It's a nice change to see someone use tags on their first message 
thank you very much!! very glad that i don't have to start a new save "just" for that 😭 i mean i will eventually do so anyway to get the ||achievement for rescuing zote (i think there's one?)||, but until then i'll try my best with the ||HOG completion.||

@tight fox
yes there is an achievement for him
Do you need help?
Hold on
||just got void heart i should prob just explore, but what can i do now||
Wtf is this thing.
Ill look
you're welcome, i think spoiler tagging is common sense really, especially in discussions about big exploration-heavy games like this one!
🩶
||voidheart just unlocks stuff very late game. It won't do a lot until you're actually planning to finish it||
i already finished the game im at like 87% completeion i just got it though
Nvm, killed it. Now I know it's a ||Mawlurk||
I was late
||Why is there one on the ceiling-||
Run!
Why tf are there so many
||voidheart unlocks things in the royal waterways and in the black egg. Though at least for the royal waterways I'd do that as the very last thing you do. When you're at 100+% imo||
Whyyyyy 
whats the ||black egg||
||the place in crossroads||
||oh i already went back and killed infected hk with hornet||
there is more
k il go check again
pay a little more attention when ||hornet shows up||
sadly not many people see it that way here 
OH JESUS FLIPPING CHRIST
i mean the games been out for like what 5 years now
WHY IS THIS HERE?!
That doesn't change anything
Except the age of the game
That keeps changing
And if people come here for help its because they either hadnt played it or discovered it at all
Whats the point here?
||am i supposed to stop her from falling on the ground||
||indirectly yeah. Take a closer look at the hollow knight when hornet joins the fight||
um alright
is there any way to skip this end part i dont wanna go to the credits again
Exit the game
Alt f4
||i think i know what your talking about, im not sure but i may have saw the dream nail particles||
got it

||alright was not expecting radiance, thought i was bouta fight the clean hollow knight. but didnt do bad on my first try||
how in the world do i get this ||grub||
good luck 
||check deepnest||
You were trying to find that like two days ago
😭
i dont remember that
Odd
||i did i got the mask shard and i did not find anything||
||The mask shard is all the way below you in deepnest if you fall through the fungal core. I meant the part of deepnest to the left of the grub||
||i am falling from fungal core you just dont know where i am the only thing i found in deepnest through fungal core was a mask shard||
lol what charms?
||Deep Focus and wayward compass.||
💀
I need a ||good loadout|| for ||BV||
i updated my map
is this a new save?
... It's my first playthrough okay?
||You should really go out looking for more charms and notches||
oh....
Probably ||shaman and soul catcher or catcher and mark of pride||
But I need ||lantern-||
||mark of pride and longnail||
Hows that re-
Yay
I disagree thats kinda like overkill
where my message go bruh
||I said you shouldn't be falling through fungle core but instead be looking in the part of deepnest left of the grub||
i spoilered it 💀
Doesnt really help that much and the difference just isnt worth it
why did you delete my message?
i spoiled the message its not like i broke any rules bruh
very cringe of you ismoil
Uncspoi
Going into ||BV|| with ||max soul and masks|| wish me luck gang
even if spoiler tagged, you shouldn't mention anything they haven't found or know about
thats my problem how? if they click on it they click on it brother
It's the rules of the channel..
?tag uncspoilers
🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.
If you dont tag them i think its fine
okay cool thats nice 👍
im very bad with arguing with moderators so like yeah i still dont care
Bad luck or good luck?
good luck
Good, Neb
Good luck with ||bv||
||any tips for radiance, im lowk getting messed up rn||
Who
||BV||
WOAH THERE PAL, NO NSFW
||abyss shriek is your friend||
What ||charms|| do you have?
as long as you listen to the rules that's fine
@shut sparrow
I died and I landed like 1-2 hits
you're very close to it. Take a closer look at the walls
Those are good
What ||spells|| do you have?
||everything black and every art||
||dashmaster and nailmaster's glory both are bad for radiance. Use twister or catcher and grubsong or steady body instead imo||
WHY IS HE YELLING AT ME?! 😭
legit just made those changes lol
||spam abyss shriek at the start of the fight||
aigh il just focus on dodging and spam ||shriek||
i was gonna help him but every form of advice is some sort of spoiler for him 💀
||you can use your dive spell to temporarily remove the spike floor if you use it on it. Other than that mainly focus on abyss shriek||
oh fr ima try that
also temporarily?
Second attempt was my best so far 
||descending dark is the name||
you can just ask to see their inventory/map to know whether it is a spoiler. If you know that it is then don't say it
||BV|| took me a bit but he's not hard
I know the name, thanks
acronyms also need to be spoiler tagged
I'm just bad with timing sometimes, and I have a lazy eye so
||it also gives you invincibility frames so you dont have to worry about getting hit||
||the spike floor always switches sides after like 10 seconds. If you use ddark on it it will be removed until it spawns again on the other side||
i mean you called it ||dive spell||
so yeah
yes, because it's a ||dive spell||
For timesave
I keep dying after ||First stagger||
i'd reccomend playing more passive to learn his attacks first
I can memorize attacks easy but I'll do that.
Okay what is this ||new attack.||
||for broken vessel always try to remove the orange enemies they spawn as quickly as possible. Don't try to heal randomly in the middle of the fight but use the staggers for that. You can also try healing when they slash the nail upwards a couple times.
Most importantly don't jump around or dash randomly. Try to only do it when you need to to dodge an attack. Otherwise stay on the ground and don't move too quickly or you'll accidentally get hit||
what's so ponder about that :ponder_evil:
Big E can isee your charms again?
||dive to dodge it||
Three people are talking to me 😭
Then panic
And sometimes im talking to 3 people 😭
what charms do you have bruh
Get more
No
put on ||defenders crest too one shot the orange spawns||

Okay
Time to ||overcharm|| ig
AGH
No 😐
no remove a charm
Yes?
💀
I'ma ||overcharm|| okay? Okay.

No No 😐😐
Too bad I already ||C dashed|| away from the ||bench||
3 ||grubs|| too go

||you really don't have a lot of charms, you can keep mark of pride but it's it the best. Definitely remove longnail though. I recommend using shaman stone and soul catcher right now. It's by far the best you have. If you find it too difficult you can always come back to it later tho when you're better equipped||
also yeah ||never overcharm||
Almost enough for ||lantern||
I died I'll get rid of ||long nail lol||
unless your no hitting
I'll try this
||Fireball double hit to start it off, nice||
But ||dive|| better
Really?
Yes ||it can kill the balloon things||
i hate ||grub|| hunting
So do I but it's worth it when I hear their happy sounds! 

just 3 more man...
I'm gonna try my own ||Loadout|| see how it goes.
Actually
I'ma go back to the ||longest nail build||
hey where can i ||find pure vessels ? i've been going to path of pain and meet 2 guards there and some 2 stranger, after it i got teleported back||
Mods
really ?
AWWWW
The ||guards aren't called pure vessels||
THAT WAS THE BEST ONE
yeah i know
Hes not in there
where can i find it ? or it only comes with mod
In another area, do you mind spoilers?
Later in the game
||Why am I so bad at BV?|| 
so im going through all this pain just for single cut scene ? 
Yea…
you mean ||godhome ?||
Yes
That’s why it’s not a mandatory part of the game cuz it’s so hard
yeah im lf for the last ||simple key to unlock it||
Mandatory as in full completion
||holy shit he has a phase two im so done||
I think u gotta tag
Do u want help finding the last one
no, i already know where is it
||How did BV know I was gonna dash?||
He has big brain
Why am I so bad at ||BV||, Neb?
Idk. what attacks do you struggle with?

