hk-help

[river lagoon]

Maybe hes not unfair, hes just annoying af

[snow vigil]

thats a beter description

[river lagoon]

Especially in ||godhome||

[median jay]

||nosk|| is kicking my ass ;-;

[zenith basin]

||stay in the spot under the ledge or the corners, he only screams when hes splewing blobs or charging, jumping doesnt cause a scream||
||sit in corner, attack, pogo when he comes, jump n pogo if he screams (aka will charge in the other direction) otherwise move into the corner and repeat||

[zealous briar]

What happens if you don’t save ||zote in deepest||

[tight fox]

||it means you cant fight him later||

[zealous briar]

If you don’t save him?

Or I f you do

[tight fox]

||if you dont save him he dies he must've forgot to bring life ender||

[zealous briar]

How do you know if he’s dead is there a spot to check

[tight fox]

||If you see zote and then leave without saving him he dies||

[green stone]

No

[green stone]

||he'll just eternally wait there for you to save him||

[knotty pecan]

||No he would die||, you get an achievement for leaving him

[final mortar]

||How do I get into the blue room in the Abyss?||

[zealous briar]

[knotty pecan]

Equip all the blue mask charms

[green stone]

First of all, ||spoiler, 2nd of all, they asked if they left him in deepenest, in which case he can't die||

[knotty pecan]

I’ll edit it, how do I make it spoiler warning

[final mortar]

|| on both sides of the message

[green stone]

Just put || around what you want to spoiler

[tight fox]

||

[knotty pecan]

K

[zealous briar]

I play on switch can I check achievements or no

[green stone]

In the main menu

[tight fox]

Yes

[zealous briar]

[knotty pecan]

I’ve edited the spoily bit

[zealous briar]

What’s the achievement called?

[green stone]

[green stone]

For ||leaving zote die? I don't remember but it's a hidden achievement, it's easy to recognize it has zotes head on it iirc||

But if you don't have it well it's still hidden

[zealous briar]

K

Ok

[tight fox]

||neglect||

[knotty pecan]

However if you did leave him to die you miss out on ||a dream boss||

[zealous briar]

Cause if you don’t save him you can’t fight grey prince zote right

[knotty pecan]

Ye

[zealous briar]

[knotty pecan]

I think u also could || miss out on another version of him in godhome ||

[tight fox]

Which is good

[zealous briar]

God home is where you can regift bosses right?

[knotty pecan]

Ye but it’s just a wave of Zotes that u kill in one hit I think , see how many u can kill

[zealous briar]

K

[tight fox]

||Thats eternal ordeal not godhome||

[pure raptor]

Any advice for phase 2 of || AbsRad ||?

[knotty pecan]

Fr? Well regardless u still miss out on it if u let him die

[zealous briar]

How do you get there

Also u should probably spoiler that

[knotty pecan]

It’s a secret in ||godhome||, if u don’t know what ||godhome|| is, ignore this

[tight fox]

U also forgot to spoiler

[knotty pecan]

It’s the name of a place, not really a spoiler, I didn’t really say anything about it

[tight fox]

Its a spoiler

[zealous briar]

I’m gonna go play hk see ya

[simple island]

The platform phase ? For that one what you ||want is to stay in place on the middle 4 platforms, that way you can spam nail very fast and ddark whenever she perches on one of them||

[tight fox]

And it doesnt matter if its a spoiler its still against this channels rules

[knotty pecan]

fiiiiiiine, spoiler rules r annoying

[simple island]

Yes true but like, rules are to spoiler everything, just because people discussing rules turn the chat into utter chaos, and so that way you have a clear rule set which is as protective as can be which is nice as some people have extremely narrow definitions of spoilers

[zealous briar]

🤓👆erm actually

[simple island]

It’s a matter of consistency and avoiding people not tagging anything

[knotty pecan]

ye ig

[tight fox]

"ensure you use spoiler tags around all Hollow knight content" is what the channel rules say about it

[knotty pecan]

It would be nice if there were different channels for different parts of the game so there’s clear lines of what’s spoilers and what’s not e.g. city of tears help

[tight fox]

Then the names of the channels would be spoilers

||Did anyone else know you can do this?||

[proper frost]

||interresting||

[wraith sail]

||Are you trying to get to the ceiling or just playing with the mechanics of the game?||

[proper frost]

||the second,it's a double wings moment||

[tight fox]

||Im just playing with gliches||

[zealous briar]

I found out I haven’t killed ||zote ||which I don’t know if that’s good or bad

[tight fox]

||Its bad lategame||

[proper frost]

||more content though||

[zealous briar]

I know isn’t the boss fight really hard like taking || 3 masks || per hit

[tight fox]

||More hours of dying on gpz because of markoth||

[tight fox]

||You take 8 masks when you've beat him enough times||

[zealous briar]

Well maybe I should reconsider leaving him

[pure raptor]

I feel like the || AbsRad laser beam attack (the rapid fire one, not the big column)|| does not give me enough time to get out of the way but maybe that’s a skill issue? 😭

[shut sparrow]

there is enough time to get away. You just need more practice

[pure raptor]

I swear by the time I see it’s gonna hit me it’s already too late lol

I’ll keep trying

Maybe my bigger monitor with better frames can help me see it coming idk (I was practicing on steam deck)

[green stone]

I think it's has more to do with your reaction time than your framerate, at least I think the former is more impactful than the latter

[bright sorrel]

theyre dodging it wrong it doesnt rly involve reaction time 🐊

[pure raptor]

I’m becoming an old man in real time

Reaction time dwindling

[green stone]

I'd like to argue it's partly tied to reaction time, if you see the ||first laser is going to hit you and the information (or at least the decision to where to move) doesn't go fast enough from the brain to the hands to move out of the way, it's reaction time||

[pure raptor]

Is there a tell to where they are going to shoot out other than that || beam that flashes just before it actually hits you || ? Like I never really paid much attention to || AbsRad during the attack, wasn’t sure if she glowed a certain way or something as a hint ||

[green stone]

||once you dodge the 1st one, place yourself where it was, it can't spawn twice in a row in the same place, do it again for the 3rd laser||

[bright sorrel]

the ||beams fire|| at half of the average human reaction time. that isnt their issue its moreso not knowing when the attack is happening, and how to dodge it

[pure raptor]

Ok got it Ty

[bright sorrel]

this is ponder

evilponder perhaps

[green stone]

What does that even mean 😭

[bright sorrel]

its

[green stone]

I don't get it

[bright sorrel]

strange way to dodge it to say the least basically

[green stone]

That's how I use to do it but I bet there's plenty other ways

It works for me every time

[bright sorrel]

just stand to the right of the first one and u wont need to move most of the time

[tight fox]

||Human benchmark can always help with difficult hk bosses just minorly.||

[fathom depot]

||Fighting Grey Prince Zote with all binds, how much health does this bitch have? Anyone got any advice? Could really use some of that.||

[desert pawn]

||1400 I believe, and for reference, your nail does 13 considering nail bindings||

[fathom depot]

Amazing, ||just died to him for the 20th time, can't wait to wait 8 minutes to get to fight him and die and do it all over again||

[green stone]

||Tbf it's the worst (or 2nd worst) when fighting all bindings style in terms of difficulty||

[fathom depot]

||Is there any easy way to deal with his little guys that he shits out of his mouth?||

I'm having a hard time mostly because of them

[green stone]

||nail arts and well positioned spells||

Don't let them accumulate

[fathom depot]

||Not working out when he shits them out faster than I can kill them||

So pray to RNG gods basically?

[green stone]

You can do that too

[green stone]

||Just wait for them to spawn so that they aren't invincible and try to place a nice shriek or fireball, it takes practice||

If there's some left (ideally just 1) ||great slash in its face||

[fathom depot]

||You can't practice in the hall with binds, though||

[green stone]

You can with mods on pc but you might not want to/be able to

[brittle helm]

Anyone have a good charm build for ||AbsRad||? (I have all charms and have ||carefree melody|| instead of ||grimmchild||)

[fathom depot]

||THE BALOONS DO 2 HEALTH WHEN YOU TOUCH THEM?? I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST WHEN THEY BLEW UP OH MY GOD I HATE ZOTE WHY THE FUCK IS HE HERE||

[green stone]

||shaman and twister are a must, spells are great in this fight, then you can add quick slash + (long nail + nmg) or strength||

[brittle helm]

Thanks

[fathom depot]

Thanks so much

[green stone]

[hollow prawn]

Hi #hk-hell!

[dawn sphinx]

Hi!

Not too much going on in hell rn

[halcyon cloak]

any tips to gain more of that ? i'm stuck

[tawny sapphire]

Yippe

[tawny sapphire]

||I assume you got that from dream warriors, do more of those||

[winged trench]

how close am i to unlocking ||colloseum|| last thing i got was the ||super dash in crystal caverns||

[halcyon cloak]

i have finished all of them

[tawny sapphire]

||Some of your old foes aren’t really dead, just sleeping, go meet ‘em||

[forest pewter]

Quite Far away

[hollow prawn]

You should already be able to access it

Or atleast, it’s certainly possible.

[forest pewter]

He dosent even have ||wings or the second half of city ||

[hollow prawn]

Oh wait Nevermind that would require (don’t read this exq) ||crypt in resting grounds using dive after falling from peaks to get to right side city I forgot||

Forgot that ||the gate from xero to lower area|| isn’t auto open for a sec lol

[forest pewter]

U can use ||blue lake ||

[winged trench]

||right side of city is in the casket||?

i been there alr

my map

inv:

[tough steeple]

I just learned how to heal!!

[forest pewter]

Could you show the ||full map of the city?||

[hollow prawn]

Awesome!

[hollow prawn]

Tags

[hollow prawn]

||not without a shade skip unless wings or cdashing from above gruz mom||

[forest pewter]

He has|| c dash ||

[forest pewter]

Nvm how much progress did you made in the ||basin || ?

Did you got anything from there?

[winged trench]

i left cuz there was a jump i couldn't make it was too tall

[winged trench]

what am i supposed to get i prob did i have bad memory

[forest pewter]

Go left to the unexplored area
It's very useful

[tough steeple]

I thought you could fly in the game

[winged trench]

left of the ||bench||?

[forest pewter]

Yes

[winged trench]

maybe you can

[forest pewter]

Learn his attacks and|| heal when he staggees ||

[tough steeple]

Staggees?

[forest pewter]

You will understand it when you fight him

[winged trench]

this is a sad read

[tough steeple]

I keep on taking damage when I touch him

His attacks are too fast

[hollow prawn]

No he won’t, you misspelled

[regal totem]

If ||he jump, go under, if he jump back, get ready to jump over shockwave||

[tough steeple]

How do you know the controls like I have to find the jump button first and then press it

[meager thistle]

No offense, but is this your first videogame?

[forest pewter]

[rugged arch]

I'm on my 9th go through

[forest pewter]

57 ?

[rugged arch]

Thank you

[thick wing]

I got to ||last phase and died|| 😦

[forest pewter]

It happens keep trying
I died to that to on || p5 ||

[scenic egret]

spouler tags

this channel requires you to use spoiler tags for all content in the game, ||like this||

[winged trench]

any tips for ||vessel fight||?

[scenic egret]

<@&283547423706447872> kill them both

[scenic egret]

please be more specific

[winged trench]

i just asked for tips give me tips

not need to specify

[scenic egret]

and also dont try to shorten any names, theres always a likely chance someone doesnt know what youre talking about or theres multiple things in the game with the same name

[scenic egret]

i mean its a lot easier to give tips based on what youre struggling with

anyways:||

1. heal when it does the jump and charge attack
2. for the orb spam, you can try pogoing on top of it and moving from side to side
3. you can stand right next to the boss when its doing the dive attack||

[nimble holly]

@rugged arch @tough steeple use tags

[winged trench]

playing asgards wrath 2 on vr rn

[cyan island]

need someone to remind me ||is there a point to traitor lord other than pantheon?||

[inland moon]

Yes, there's something important locked behind it

[remote dragon]

||blocks an essential item for two endings||

[winged trench]

thanks

[cyan island]

||yeah but thats if i want to go to god home or get the other ending other than thk right?||

[remote dragon]

||It's if you're going for Godhome or if you want Kingsoul||

[cyan island]

|| just a casual play through rn but wont hurt ig||

[remote dragon]

||Oh yeah, it's also part of Cloth's questline||

[dense jasper]

any advised items i should be looking to buy in early game? ||just deafeted the mantis trio|| i have 1655 geos

[inland moon]

Save a bit more and buy ||lantern from sly||

[dense jasper]

will do, thx

[robust linden]

||broken vessel?||

[robust linden]

||If you have defenders crest,use it||

[inland moon]

tags

[robust linden]

Mah bad

[inland moon]

dw

[winged trench]

i cant fucking beat him this better help

he's so ANNOYING

[robust linden]

The main problem is the sentient air things

[winged trench]

how is an ||aura|| going to help me bro

[robust linden]

when he’s staggered you can heal with defenders crest on

[winged trench]

how tf this gonna help me

[robust linden]

It kills the sentient things

[winged trench]

like fr

[robust linden]

Bro Yk the sentient air things

[winged trench]

did u mean the ||shroom that emits gas?||

[robust linden]

it 1shors them

[robust linden]

no the like ||flying infection things||

[winged trench]

bro ik what ur talking about but how is an aura gonna kill them

[robust linden]

They have one health gng

when he’s staggered you can easily heal up

Since the things die too defenders crest

[winged trench]

does the aura do dmg?

[robust linden]

yes yes it does

Not much but the thing have 1 health

@winged trench btw ur kinda underprepared

[winged trench]

i hate this boss

[robust linden]

He’s not that hard

Your just severely underprepared ngl

[somber hill]

i see ur doing a boss

[inland moon]

Nah rlly

also hi shark

[robust linden]

Idk how he’s struggling on ||broken vessel||

[winged trench]

fuck this boss

[somber hill]

wdym 'idk how' people struggle with everything

[robust linden]

See ||defenders crest|| helped u

[robust linden]

Whar

[winged trench]

ig

[somber hill]

yea that charm is good for 1st time of that boss and also remember to tag it

[robust linden]

now go get ||monarch wings||

[winged trench]

this is my first playthrough on a game like this ever

[robust linden]

Mb

[somber hill]

np

[robust linden]

Oh that’s fair

[somber hill]

[robust linden]

Btw you might wanna explore in older areas

Your severely underprepared atp in the game

[winged trench]

where do i get those

[somber hill]

yea thats how to play this game

[robust linden]

The room after

[inland moon]

Just noticed your username

[somber hill]

keep on going after the boss

[robust linden]

Just walk forward

[robust linden]

um I have some bad experiences w femboys

[inland moon]

better destroy me then

[winged trench]

sigma

[robust linden]

I’m gonna get banned ☹️

[robust linden]

real very sigma

ok go explore now child

Btw where is your nail at

[inland moon]

pocket

[robust linden]

What

[inland moon]

you asked where nail at

[robust linden]

OH

.

[winged trench]

where am i supposed to go now

[robust linden]

um you decide

[inland moon]

Go explore with your new ability

[robust linden]

it’s an open world game for the most part just ecplore

Explore

[winged trench]

i want to kill bosses

[robust linden]

Also ||where is your nail at in terms of levels||

[winged trench]

wheres the next boss

[robust linden]

your gonna struggle gng explore

[robust linden]

um uhhhhh

[winged trench]

imma go kill a ||dream dude||

[inland moon]

Why asking me

[robust linden]

Wrong dude mb

[robust linden]

sure that’s fine

But please get more ||charm notches I’m tweaking||

[winged trench]

spoiler

[robust linden]

Whar

[winged trench]

mods tickle his feet

[robust linden]

erm wattesigma

[winged trench]

where

[robust linden]

Who doesn’t know charm notches ☠️

[robust linden]

||Salubra||/explroing

[somber hill]

u just spoiled u can ||find charm notches||

[winged trench]

||salubra?||

[robust linden]

yes

[robust linden]

I thought every1 knew that but mb I guess

ts my second day ehre so

[winged trench]

300 geo for a ||stag station|| is insane

[robust linden]

true

[winged trench]

u have to spoil everything after dirtmouth

[robust linden]

Oh

[winged trench]

u just spoiled again

[inland moon]

it's everything actually

[robust linden]

I don’t have ts habit

[somber hill]

dwtake it ez, ull get the hang of it

[robust linden]

so that’s why

[somber hill]

?tag pins2

[languid radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985794659894829117/1039743031043178606/pins2.png?ex=66d09368&is=66cf41e8&hm=e6586d5839b97a60d53d4ceedebb81368b0c737f14225ae6bb1ddb3ea729adb1&

[vivid fog]

the rules change

otso

[winged trench]

imma tickle u gng

[somber hill]

gwnj

[vivid fog]

what the fuck

[robust linden]

Your saying that to a mod

your cooked gng

[somber hill]

:0

[robust linden]

Rip I’ll pray for you

[vivid fog]

rick

[somber hill]

[jade sedge]

Gwnj

[winged trench]

how much do i need to donate

[robust linden]

||3k||

||for a vessel fragment||

[winged trench]

what is that

[inland moon]

uncspoilers moment

Grr my typing is regressing

[robust linden]

||more soul storage basically||

[vivid fog]

sigh

[robust linden]

whar

I think I did smt wrong

[vivid fog]

?unscspoilers

[robust linden]

Whar

[vivid fog]

?unscspoilers

WHAT THE HELL

[inland moon]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[inland moon]

[vivid fog]

yes that one

[robust linden]

erm

I’m confused what does it mean

[vivid fog]

don't ||pk|| me melon

[inland moon]

read

[vivid fog]

just read

[inland moon]

sowwy

[vivid fog]

it's okay

come here

[robust linden]

erm so

you just spoiler everything abt the game

[inland moon]

aah stop making me flustered

[vivid fog]

:)

[robust linden]

Mods here are WAY too nice

n other ppl are too nice

[jade sedge]

Basically yes but the message sent by dyno isnt about spoiler tags

[robust linden]

In the battle cats sevrer they told me too delete the game :3

[jade sedge]

The pins have a list of the few words that dont need tags

[robust linden]

Oh okay

[vivid fog]

damn

[vivid fog]

thanks :3

[vivid fog]

yes cause we're the nice members

[robust linden]

where are the means ones I like beef :3

[vivid fog]

n-none

[somber hill]

what they mean is, actually search up how do you check completion % in the chat box, i think u will find the copypasta

[robust linden]

sad

[robust linden]

Whar

[vivid fog]

if you doing that, you'll be banned or either warned

[somber hill]

#hk-discussion message here i pasted it in this server before too

[robust linden]

I’m not gonna be mean Dw

[vivid fog]

thank you

[robust linden]

Unless smn else does it to mean instead

what is my grammar holy

I meant unless smn does it to me first

[lunar mason]

does anyone have any idea what the ||tram pass button|| sound effect is called

because for the life of me i cannot find it ANYWHERE

[somber hill]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[robust linden]

Spoilers gng

[lunar mason]

Damn

[robust linden]

The effect only?

[somber hill]

u can try ask in modding discussion, they konw more about game files than in here. not that noone in here knows, just u have better chance someone who knows is around in there

[lunar mason]

Yeah you're probably right

[robust linden]

The channel is deader then my grandpa

[lunar mason]

but yeah just the sound effect that plays

[somber hill]

thats cuz noone wants to discuss it...

[stiff field]

no one needs help

[robust linden]

Yea

Btw guys who’s owner

[inland moon]

simo, why?

[robust linden]

Jus asking

Wow it’s not Ari gibson?

(I’m joking)

[somber hill]

so funny

[robust linden]

I’m hillarious I know

[somber hill]

hairless

[robust linden]

im a comedian

[somber hill]

comeandie

[robust linden]

wow you want me to die?

[somber hill]

commander

[robust linden]

I command ppl yes

[somber hill]

[winged trench]

wheres the person that wanted ||essence||?

[robust linden]

||restinf grounds||

||resting||

[winged trench]

am i able to fight the ||dreamer in deepnest yet?||

[robust linden]

||you can fight any dream warrior when you get the dream nail you just need to get to it||

[winged trench]

u think i can beat bro

[robust linden]

yes

[winged trench]

is it worth fighting?

[robust linden]

It gives ||essences||

[winged trench]

is that my brother???

[robust linden]

Go n check

[winged trench]

friend or foe

cuz im lowk low

[robust linden]

GO AND CHECK

[winged trench]

BRO IM SCARED

[robust linden]

Ion care go check

[winged trench]

oh i found a ||hotsprings||

wait that means im close

damn it

[robust linden]

Sit on the ||bench|| and go see your ||brother||

[winged trench]

i fell down so i have to like find him

[robust linden]

go find him

[winged trench]

lol fucking noob

[robust linden]

Skull

[winged trench]

found another one, no brother

oops

[robust linden]

Whar

[robust linden]

no go find him

[winged trench]

aw hell nah what is that

[robust linden]

um

good luck

[winged trench]

found something else, no brother...

[wispy estuary]

it looks like you have been falling up

[stiff field]

you had one job

[winged trench]

I CANT FIND HIM

[robust linden]

Well that’s good

[robust linden]

just go back

[wispy estuary]

you gotta inspect it i think

[simple island]

Let them explore tsk tsk

They’ll find stuff whenever they find them

[winged trench]

guys i found something scary...

[wispy estuary]

yes and they're complaining about not finding them in the help channel

[simple island]

You are in ||deepnest||

[wispy estuary]

this man is already dead, he just doesn't know it

[winged trench]

i think i died to the ||8 eye'd dude on the map||

welp

[stiff field]

who

[simple island]

(no they are not :p, they are just sharing their every move in ||deepnest||)

[wispy estuary]

he got 6 eyes

[winged trench]

o

[winged trench]

i got autism bro

[wispy estuary]

||the double dmg crawler defender guys||

[stiff field]

oh yeah

so what you want to do against those guys is run

[robust linden]

everything in ||deepnest|| is crazy bro

[simple island]

Sure ? I don’t see why you brought it up
Whatever

[winged trench]

i found this sigma

[robust linden]

Scary n crazy

[winged trench]

autism is fun

[wispy estuary]

kil

[robust linden]

Oh that’s the ||dream guy||

[robust linden]

Relatable

[winged trench]

oh what i thought it was the other 6 eye'd dude

[robust linden]

☠️

[winged trench]

imma go get my money then come back

[robust linden]

the ||double damage guy||?

[robust linden]

fair

[winged trench]

is that what it's called

[robust linden]

Does it do ||2 damage||

[winged trench]

im scared

[robust linden]

Just jump over it

[stiff field]

just like run through him

[robust linden]

jump and ||dash||

[stiff field]

or that actually that sounds smarter

[winged trench]

||pogo|| it?

[robust linden]

jump, pogo, dash

[winged trench]

naw dawg he got me to 1 hp im running away now

[robust linden]

fair

just ||quit out too the bench||

[inland moon]

Wait for it to open, hit once, run away

[winged trench]

WHY IS THERE MORE OF THEM??

I THOUGHT I ESCAPED

[inland moon]

lol

[robust linden]

LMAOOOO

[winged trench]

i dont like ||deepnest|| anymore

im fighting the ||dream dude|| and leaving

[stiff field]

also go find that brother guy he's like the coolest part of

[robust linden]

Spoiler

[robust linden]

real

[robust linden]

Go find brother

[winged trench]

welp i just died to a ||flying spider|| and lost all my moners

[winged trench]

can u mark him on the map for me i cant find him bro

[inland moon]

If you can't see her, then you can;t fight her

[stiff field]

||go down from the hot spring||

[robust linden]

I’m in school gng

||hotpsring then go left and then just go where you went b4||

[winged trench]

||her?||

[inland moon]

The ||dreamer||

[robust linden]

||it’s a guy gng||

[inland moon]

no?

[robust linden]

||gal lion is a girl?||

[inland moon]

what

[stiff field]

gal lion is a girl

[inland moon]

||Herrah is female||

[robust linden]

||gallion Yk?||

[robust linden]

NO NOT HER

[winged trench]

i wish i could kill these things

[inland moon]

||Galien is not female||

[stiff field]

explosives

[robust linden]

||he’s talking bag gallion not herrah||

abt*

[robust linden]

it’s ok go find brother

[inland moon]

Then why call it a ||dreamer||

[stiff field]

cmon it'll be fun'

[winged trench]

im assuming i cant walk through this

[robust linden]

||he calls dreamers warriors as dreamers||

[robust linden]

nope

[inland moon]

Be clear smh

[winged trench]

where is brother

[stiff field]

||can you dash through it?||

[robust linden]

||no shade cloak||

[robust linden]

||hot spring gng||

[robust linden]

||he said it not me||

[inland moon]

It wasn't directed at you

stupid semicolon gr

[robust linden]

oh mb

[desert sand]

how do i get out of ||beasts den|| i forgot

[robust linden]

Wander around

[desert sand]

i alr got the ||dreamer||

i kind of forgot how to get out

[winged trench]

i am yet to find brother

[robust linden]

just wander around gnp

Ngl

[desert sand]

watch me wipe

[robust linden]

get to the ||hotspring||

and then send a picture

[inland moon]

Down and left kinda

[desert sand]

found it

big ||jellyfish|| time

[desert sand]

||queens garden|| is near ||greenpath|| right

[winged trench]

you mean ||queens station||?

[desert sand]

yep mb

[winged trench]

yeah its like far left of gp

[desert sand]

alr ty

[robust linden]

Go left

[winged trench]

am i supposed to ||pogo|| upwards?

[robust linden]

I forgor actually where to go

skibs

[winged trench]

i went left now whar

@robust linden

[robust linden]

Keep going left there’s a secret wall no?

[winged trench]

yeh

[robust linden]

Go left

that’s where brother is

[winged trench]

found one of my caterpies

[robust linden]

oh get it and go in the other room

[winged trench]

BROTHER

what the hell he vanished?

he was right below me i swear

[robust linden]

erm

[winged trench]

why is he runn
ing away from me :c

[robust linden]

idk I think he’s scared

[winged trench]

bruh

[robust linden]

Keep going

[winged trench]

ok i just saw him literally running

[robust linden]

he’s scared gng

KEEP GOING

[winged trench]

uh..

i dont think brother is who he says he is..

might be cooked

[robust linden]

no those ppl attacked him b4

[robust linden]

he’s a trader

[winged trench]

bro led me right into a boss fight

i dont like u very much

[robust linden]

:3

[inland moon]

lol

[winged trench]

bro this stupid boss

[inland moon]

For once someone falls for it despite having online help

[winged trench]

i spent like 30 mins looking for this mf

[crystal tide]

but you found it

[stiff field]

congratulations

[winged trench]

i cant beat this dude

[crystal tide]

yes you can

[stiff field]

just stay next to the steps and upslash and you'll be fine

[crystal tide]

just rember how to kill spiders irl hit them near the corners

[winged trench]

this is frustrating

I HATE ||NOSK||

@robust linden WHY

[winged trench]

it doesn't WORK

this boss is making me suicidal

hm

its over

i killed brother.

[inland moon]

nice gg

[winged trench]

lengthy ahh boss and didnt even give anything smh

[inland moon]

Uhhh

about that

Just go right from the boss

[nova temple]

Go back in the boss arena

[winged trench]

my goat

uh...

[spice minnow]

get kidnapped hehe

[winged trench]

yeah p much

[winged trench]

freed my caterpie atleast

should i be afraid? @spice minnow

[inland moon]

you should tag

[winged trench]

my b

[winged trench]

is there not a boss in here?

[inland moon]

Did you find anything important?

[winged trench]

no, only thing i found was ||seal||

was i supposed to?

[inland moon]

||Seal?||

[winged trench]

||hollownest seal||

[inland moon]

There's something else in there

You should go back in

[winged trench]

eren yeager

[inland moon]

Not that, something else

Go up more

[winged trench]

alr

hm

this? @inland moon

[inland moon]

yup

[winged trench]

ic

[inland moon]

surprised you found the exiit before that

[winged trench]

i didnt even fight anything lol

[winged trench]

i was avoiding the npcs guarding the entrances like crazy i hate those things

[inland moon]

fair, but like

[winged trench]

did she give me anything?

[inland moon]

Did you watch the cutscene

[winged trench]

yeah

i dont think i got anything

[inland moon]

What did it remind you of

[winged trench]

idk i already forgot

lemme look it up

[inland moon]

Looks like you have some backtracking in your future

[winged trench]

the ||egg||?

[inland moon]

mhm

[winged trench]

after i get the other two looks like i gotta go fight sum there

ok sleep time that took way too long

am i able to fight the other two rn? @inland moon ?

[inland moon]

Potentially, I'd need to know your stuff before I make any judgements

[winged trench]

ok goodnight thanks for help

[inland moon]

gn, sweet dreams

[somber hill]

gn

[green rose]

good morning everyone

[inland moon]

gm

[green rose]

if its morning for y'all

[inland moon]

good timezone even

[inland moon]

evening

[green rose]

its 09:54 for meh

[acoustic sigil]

Based timezone

[inland moon]

Lemme guess, it's yours thommie

[acoustic sigil]

How could you guess that

[inland moon]

Just a hunch

[acoustic sigil]

Does anyone find a timezone other than the one they live in based lol

[green rose]

me

[inland moon]

I like timezones somewhat close to mine

[keen quest]

Could anyone recommend charms to use when doing ||pantheon 5?||

[spice minnow]

spoiler

[forest pewter]

|| strength quick slash shaman fragile / unbreakable heart ||

[keen quest]

Alright thank you 👍

[spice minnow]

go up

[inland moon]

Go from above

[forest pewter]

Stupid ass internet

[inland moon]

You need to spoiler tag this

[keen quest]

Ah right apologies

[inland moon]

Send abilities

[spice minnow]

he dont got the ||soul ||tho

[rocky turret]

what?

do i need a specific ability

?

[spice minnow]

yes

[rocky turret]

damn

how many abilities are there btw

[forest pewter]

Alot

[rocky turret]

wut

i thought there only like 5

[forest pewter]

I thinks that's all the movement ones

[acoustic sigil]

Please delete the image as it is not spoiler tagged

[tidal sand]

Just ||spells|| or ||movement|| included?

Because there’s ||6 spells|| and like ||10 movement abilities||

[simple island]

I don’t really think they cared that much

Nor did they asked for such a precise amounts, and so many spoilers

(They only have ||1 spell||… they maybe didn’t knew there were multiple…)

[forest pewter]

DELETE

[simple island]

The goal of this channel is to make it so people don’t get spoiled, it’s not spoiling them needlessly

[vocal dune]

pls pls plsp lsp lpsl pls pls help i already beat ||phanteon 4||

[simple island]

(being rude about it doesn’t make lead to good results)

[forest pewter]

|| show your Charms||

[vocal dune]

wait

[simple island]

Have you done ||colo 3, finished the Grimm troupe, finished seer’s questline,|| got all equipment ?

[inland moon]

What are you struggling with

[forest pewter]

But I am not I just told him to delete

[simple island]

(Yeah show inventory and charm inventory)

[forest pewter]

Also Sorry for ping

[somber hill]

<@&283547423706447872> 2 unspoilered images and its been over 1/2 hour

[forest pewter]

Uh do you have them all?

[vocal dune]

ok let me search what ||seer questline|| is or maybe ive done that i honestly forgot

[vocal dune]

idk about ||melody carefree thingy|| but ive already beaten ||nkg|||

[forest pewter]

Just talk to ||seer after 2400 essence||

[somber hill]

collecting ||essence and u going to talk to her when hitting essence milestones||

[vocal dune]

idk

[forest pewter]

U only need to do one of them

[vocal dune]

oh right ive done that

[forest pewter]

Sorry

[somber hill]

do what?

[forest pewter]

I pinged the wrong person sorry

[forest pewter]

Do you have all ||mask and vessel fragementst ||

[somber hill]

[vocal dune]

yes

[plucky dome]

||You're missing a charm, that's your last %. You can find it in the abyss||

[forest pewter]

Oh is it the door one?

[vocal dune]

||void heart? i have it|| or are you talking about another?

[plucky dome]

||between the 2 lifeblood ones||

[forest pewter]

Equip all|| lifeblood charms and go to abyss but make sure u don't take damage ||

[vocal dune]

OH

THANK YOUOMG

[forest pewter]

No problem

[lyric tulip]

Does ||Quick Slash|| work well for ||Colo 1||

And if you ask me why i haven't done ||Colo 1||, i have massive skill issue

[somber hill]

||qslash is ok but not great for colo since the enemies are spread out and they dont have health like bosses do||

[forest pewter]

For a|| 3 notch charm I don't think it's good for the any colo beside the second one ||

[inland moon]

And not even then

[forest pewter]

It's good against the boss but useless for the rest of ||trail||

[inland moon]

And the boss is fairly easy if you know what you're doing

[forest pewter]

Wait ur right ||qs || is not good when u can just || shaman ||

@lyric tulip nvm I was wrong ||qs || is bad in every ||colo||

[bitter gorge]

||i am struggling on the pantheons i might just have a skill issue do any1 got any reccomendations on what charms to use or other tips||

[rigid fractal]

which|| bosses r u struggling with?||

[bitter gorge]

||i usually die to the brothers i cant remember their name on the first pantheon||

[forest pewter]

The build Depends on the || pantheon ||

[rigid fractal]

what|| build u use. and which attacks r u struggling with||

[forest pewter]

||Shaman strength quick slash are op for them ||

[bitter gorge]

||i use quick slash strenght shaman and spell twister i think it was called that and i cant rlly remember wich attack i struggle with i just get overwhelmed||

[forest pewter]

Spam|| d dark ||

Then they are free

[bitter gorge]

ok ty

[rigid fractal]

basically yeah.

[forest pewter]

Also make sure to use || shade cloack ||| properly

[bitter gorge]

wdym?

can u give an example

[forest pewter]

||Shade dash when they are about use thier nail|| otherwise in most cases you will hit thier hitbox

[bitter gorge]

ah ok ty

[lyric tulip]

So is it good against ||Sentinel Hornet||?

[forest pewter]

Yes very good but I perfer ||d dark to demolish her||

@lyric tulip what's your strat for her?

[lyric tulip]

Run straight into her, High Risk High Reward

[forest pewter]

Alright good luck but if that doesn't work u can try mine way
My personal favorite is to ||gather soul in first phase then spam d dark and vengfull spirit in the second phase when she spawns those spiky things ||

U just need to survive the first phase without ||healing|| then she's free with my method

Also || shaman || is necessary and || spell twister || is very helpful on this method

[frosty ocean]

I need help fighting ||soul warrior||

[rigid fractal]

pls tag ur message , and which attacks r u struggling with?

[somber hill]

beat me to if :3

[rigid fractal]

who is if :3

[frosty ocean]

||charms||

[rigid fractal]

||soul warrior has charms?!?! anyway , if u want a charm build , show me ur charms||

[frosty ocean]

||soul warrior|| slashing down = ||desolate dive||

[rigid fractal]

you|| could remove soul for longnail if u keep getting hit. but that build is already great. just gotta keep spamming spells||

[frosty ocean]

Ok

[rigid fractal]

fair enough ngl

[frosty ocean]

did it

boom

With ONE HP

[rigid fractal]

nice one man. good job , be ready for more to come

[bitter gorge]

||whats better to use spell twister or soul catcher||

[inland moon]

Depends

usually ||twister|| is better, but in some situations ||catcher|| is

[proper frost]

||cather gives you soul boost you can use to heal,fills up your soul meter quicker
Twister allows you to cast four times per full soul instead of three,and "removes" the easy visual indicator for when you have enough soul to cast||

[rocky turret]

Whats up with the guy?

[somber hill]

dw about it

its lore and stuff ull find later in game

[rocky turret]

||do i have to dream nail it?||

[somber hill]

do u see the ||particles||

if yes then yes if no then no

[rocky turret]

oh ok thx

[fathom depot]

Gonna try ||P5 with all binds||, any tips? Specifically for ||the Collector, that bastard.||

[scarlet hull]

Pls tag ur msg

[green rose]

||use cslash at the start (with strength) and you got instant stagger||

[sly atlas]

I just started the game like 10m got killed by a mini boss i think he had like a big horn with him or tooth

[scarlet hull]

Hey pls spoiler tag ur msgs when in here. Thanks!

[robust linden]

hi

[robust linden]

:3

[sly atlas]

When can i buy a map ? Dont know what to do or where to go

[spice minnow]

when u find the npc that sells it

[sly atlas]

How do i run is that possible

[spice minnow]

nope u only walk slow in ||dirtmouth||

[green rose]

wait till he attacks, then back down, slash till he attacks and repeat

[green rose]

❤️ my early game geo farm

[lyric tulip]

Now that i'm in ||Abyss||
Where to meet ||Momomon||

[sly atlas]

Gave up iam going down now cant go left there js like somekind of shield monster that spits fire

[green rose]

you really wanna know?

[lyric tulip]

Yes

[green rose]

that leads to a new area

[spice minnow]

u cant go there rn

[green rose]

you need a certain something to defeat him

[lyric tulip]

My good sir you haven't awnser my question

[quaint ermine]

To access some of the rooms in ||The city of tears|| do you have to navigate through the ||Royal waterways||? Feeling a bit lost lol

[spice minnow]

||momomon|| isnt there

[green rose]

||monomon is in the area with them jellyfish||

[inland moon]

Part of it requires coming from another direction

[lyric tulip]

[lyric tulip]

||Fog Canyon||?

[green rose]

@spice minnow its here

[green rose]

yep

[spice minnow]

i know ive beaten the game

[lyric tulip]

Direction please my good sir

[quaint ermine]

The east side? on my map it looks like theres only one other path to take which i havent been able to get to

[uneven kernel]

where are you at?

[green rose]

oh shit meant to ping YOLO

[inland moon]

Yeah, the eastern side

[spice minnow]

okay

[uneven kernel]

i've 112%d twice, u can ask for help

[green rose]

does that make you an indian :>

[uneven kernel]

hehe, yep:)

[quaint ermine]

Okay thanks for the help

any of you done the platinum?

[inland moon]

only?

[sly atlas]

How do i equipe the compas ?

[inland moon]

plenty of people here

[uneven kernel]

yeah got busy w/ work

[meager thistle]

Sit at a bench

[lyric tulip]

Is there any shortcut to ||Teacher Archive||

[inland moon]

Kinda

[green rose]

💀

[uneven kernel]

you need either isma's tear of shade cloak

[quaint ermine]

i really like the game so far so might do it but sounds super hard

[lyric tulip]

||Isma Tear of Shade Cloak?||

[inland moon]

You need to spoiler your messages

[inland moon]

bro you too

[uneven kernel]

oh whoops

[green rose]

||yep but you first need to break the wall from the long way, from then on you can use shortcut||

[inland moon]

It is, but practicing makes it way easier

[lyric tulip]

I forgor, mb bro

[green rose]

i forget it all the time 😅

i get reminded about 3 times a day

hk help is my life

i like helping ppl

[quaint ermine]

sorry one more thing, should i check out ||crystal peak|| before that?

[green rose]

definetly

[inland moon]

If you want, personally I do

[quaint ermine]

okok thanks guys

[simple island]

First off please edit your messsage with spoiler tags

[cedar hamlet]

oh sorry

[simple island]

Second off, you can’t leave, you need to keep pushing, what have you found in the area already ?

[tough steeple]

I’m still struggling with the || big boss with a white guy coming out of its head when it’s staggered||

[simple island]

||Failed champion|| ?

[tough steeple]

||False knight|| I think

It’s called something with a false

[quaint ermine]

||I had the same problem, keep exploring upwards and you will figure it out ||

[simple island]

The first boss in the game ?

?tag spoilers btw

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[tough steeple]

It’s the first?!

I thought I was pretty late game

[rocky turret]

Oh there is so much more

[tough steeple]

I thought he was like a final boss or something

[shut sparrow]

how long have you played the game for?

[tough steeple]

5hours

Im on the verge of quitting

[undone flower]

if you’re getting frustrated, just take a break

you can always come back later

[lyric tulip]

There's no shame in coming back to fight them again

There's no shame coming back to fight them with better equipment

[knotty pecan]

If he’s too hard||there’s a breakable wall behind him so you can save him for later||

[simple island]

Can you not please ?

[lyric tulip]

You have to get him to ||Phase 2|| though

[tough steeple]

Wdym

[simple island]

A day ago you had 500 hours in the game and were beating ||pure vessel||
Don’t come here to troll

[tough steeple]

What else can I get

[tough steeple]

Who are you

It’s a community computer

We use the same account

[simple island]

What are you blabbering about

[tough steeple]

The one beating ||pure vessel ||is Nate

I’m not Nate

[lyric tulip]

||Vengeful Spirit, Mothwing Cloak, Howling Wraith, etc...||

[knotty pecan]

||if you break the wall in phase 2 you can go to the left and unlock a spell, said spell also allows you to go to a different area, but you still need to beat false knight at some point||

[hoary forge]

Hey guys anyone here playing on a mac?

[simple island]

I don’t think anything changes with playing on mac

[tough steeple]

Okok

[simple island]

What’s your issue ?

[acoustic sigil]

Spoiler tags

[hoary forge]

I have been seeing significant frame drops recently

[simple island]

Are you using mods or something ?

[hoary forge]

Before it used to run smoothly @60fps with no issues but not now : (

[hoary forge]

Yeah I have recently installed some mods but not much

[lyric tulip]

Have you try lowering your graphic system in Advanced Graphic Setting?

[hoary forge]

Like usual Rando Mod, Custom Knight, etc...

[hoary forge]

I have been playing it at max before and it used to ran fine

[lyric tulip]

Have you lower it though?

[simple island]

It’s probably something to do with mods

[hoary forge]

No not yet

Lemme try that

[simple island]

Usually big frame drops aren’t really due to perfomance and more likely something else making the game run like shit

[hoary forge]

Yeah agreed it should not be a performance issue

I will try to uninstall mods then

[lyric tulip]

You shouldn't be using mods that have higher size than the average mod too

[simple island]

Those usually cause lag on start up, not while running the game

[lyric tulip]

Ah

[shut sparrow]

||that's supposed to be a secret and not really found on the first playthrough. Also you're spoiling a lot of stuff. Try to only tell them about things they can reach before the boss and don't directly mention new stuff but only give hints||

[simple island]

(Considering that this is 50/50 a troll, not sure how important any of this is. I suppose you can inform them just for the sake of informing)

[quaint ermine]

||is resting grounds mid/late game? feels like i shouldnt be here lol||

[shut sparrow]

It's more about the general rules, not this specific case yeah

[shut sparrow]

||you can get there after the first 30 minutes or after many hours so it depends||

there is no "supposed to be somewhere" though. If you managed to get there then you're also meant to be there

[quaint ermine]

i was just trying to find ||cornifer and activated that insane cutscene lol||

[knotty pecan]

||Personally I think it’s smth people should know about first play through, it establishes for the rest of the game that there’s not one way of doing the bosses, as for the spell that I said, he did ask what else he can get||

[simple island]

Yeah, the place is kinda wild for sure, but it can be accessed even before beating ||false knight and getting VS||, in a dev intended manner

[hoary forge]

I got the problem

Idk how but frame rate cap setting was off

After turning it on it's much better now

[shut sparrow]

||it's fine if that's what you personally like to do when helping people. However the rules for this channel state that you should not mention any things the person asking has not discovered yet unless they specifically ask for that and rather give hints. That goes for both the hidden exit and the spell||

[hoary forge]

But regardless of smooth game I still died to ||Sisters of Battle in P5||

[knotty pecan]

||wait then what should i say when he asks what else he can get, “there’s a thing to the left of him”?||

[shut sparrow]

||since you shouldn't mention the skip just don't say anything about the spell since without it that's not a possibility. There aren't many things you can get before false knight but a few like checking out the shop in dirtmouth or exploring more to find charms or other upgrades would be a good hint||

[knotty pecan]

ok 👌

[forest pewter]

[hoary forge]

How's your run going?

[forest pewter]

Two days ago|| I died to abs rad final phase yesterday I didnt do p5 yesterday and I died to t Lord and grim today ||

||( normie grim) ||

[hoary forge]

Those are some hard bosses

[hoary forge]

This not so much

[forest pewter]

What's the furthest u got to?

[hoary forge]

| once reached to ||Markoth||

[forest pewter]

I was just playing very offensively just to be fast otherwise I wouldn't have died to either of them

[robust linden]

hi

[hoary forge]

And then I realized he has no fucking ||floor||

[forest pewter]

Relatable

[forest pewter]

@hoary forge whats your strat for || no floor markoth ||

[forest pewter]

Hi

[hoary forge]

I haven't defeated him yet still trying different things

[robust linden]

||spell build with soul eater||

[hoary forge]

I am thinking of using ||Nail arts|| more though

[forest pewter]

I don't thinks that's good for || p5 ||

[robust linden]

Oh mb

just play passive

[hoary forge]

Yeah I think ||Soul Eater|| is what ||4- slots||?

[forest pewter]

Isnt that technically bad for ||markoth||

[robust linden]

yes

[forest pewter]

Not on|| p5||

It's good in || p5 ||

[hoary forge]

I barely get 1 hit on him before running away from him so better make that 1 hit count?

[forest pewter]

When do you try tohit him?

[hoary forge]

When I am standing on a platform and he is in range of me

[forest pewter]

What about when he ||spins his stupid shield ||

[hoary forge]

Definitely not when I am in air because then I usually end up panic ||Dashing|| and misses a platform

[robust linden]

Dodge it

[hoary forge]

Those ||shields|| are most annoying I try to get in some ||Shrieks|| during that

If he right above me

[forest pewter]

Bad idea in my opinion 👎

[robust linden]

no

[hoary forge]

Or like ||VS||

[forest pewter]

Just ||shade dash and give him few pogos ||

[forest pewter]

Don't use|| spells untill he's in second phase if ur doing ascend
Unless u have shit ton of soul in p5 then it's pretty good idea for spell spam even if he is in first phase ||

[forest pewter]

Did you beat|| ascend markoth|| ?

[hoary forge]

Oh right in actual ||P5|| I will have to manage my ||soul|| better

[robust linden]

um no but I beat himin ||p5||numerous times

[forest pewter]

Yeah don't use|| spells on soul tyrant second phase and try to do it hitless||

[hoary forge]

Yeah I can do that

[forest pewter]

Cool

Wait wrong emoji

[robust linden]

Erm did u beat him in ||p5|| yet

[forest pewter]

I did || ascend ||twice

Maybe thrice

[hoary forge]

Time to do ||Radiant|| then

[forest pewter]

Nuh huh

[robust linden]

What abt ||p5||

ok I gtg

[forest pewter]

Yeah that's so much easier I did it like 3 times

[shut sparrow]

@hoary forge @forest pewter not sure if you were even asking for advice but still maybe this helps.
||for Markoth focus on nailarts (preferably with nailmaster's glory) as your main damage for the first phase. Stay on 1 platform and just wait for him to come to you and dodge the swords. Once he gets close try to hit him with as many nailarts as possible (you can hit through his shield) until he either flies away again or comes too close where you should move to a different platform. You can heal or get close and deal damage on the shield spinning attack however don't use spells in the first phase at all.

Once you reach the second phase use all your saved up soul in form of shade souls (preferably with shaman and/or twister) while trying to get as many double hits as possible. He should be pretty low at that point if you did it right so you can do the rest of the fight like the first phase again||

[forest pewter]

Goodbye

[hoary forge]

That definitely helps, Thanks man!

[forest pewter]

Okay hear me out it may be controversial but let isn't it better to do phase 1 without ||nail arts so u have more soul for phase 2 ||?

[shut sparrow]

np and good luck! ||Also I implied it with "stay on 1 platform" but again don't chase him around. Only time you should move is of he's getting too close or if you want to attack/heal on the shield spin||

[shut sparrow]

||if you manage to do that without getting hit more often then yes, of course. However that's rarely the case as nailarts don't just deal more damage but also offer a lot more range allowing you to hit through his shield and from a safer distance||

[hoary forge]

I generally try to maintain my distance with him but I hate how he can ||just phase through walls and chase me everywhere||

[shut sparrow]

that's what ||nailarts are great for. If he gets to close hit him with a great slash and move to a different platform||

[green rose]

||when he uses the spin attack for his dreamshield: pogo for soul||

[shut sparrow]

||stay on one of the two lower platforms imo. If he comes from above dash to the other side. If he comes from the side jump up to a plat above you||

[forest pewter]

Tbh I only hit him durring his ||shield spin || for sword attack I just dodge it

[forest pewter]

Yeah that's what I do

[green rose]

||you can get some hits in even when he's shooting||

but not all the time

[shut sparrow]

||that works but the fight takes a lot longer that way. You kind of just do what you like best. The important part is saving up soul for phase 2||

[forest pewter]

Very Possibly
but it's too risky

[green rose]

agreed

[green rose]

yea :>

[shut sparrow]

||with narts not really. Only if you follow him||

[zenith basin]

if we're talking abt ||markoth|| hes just annoying cause of his ||double shield in second phase||

[forest pewter]

So if ur bad at|| nail arts then my method is effective ||cool

[forest pewter]

Yeah if u remove the second ||shield || he's free

[green rose]

||i never used narts because i play on switch and its hard on controller||

[shut sparrow]

||nailarts just need practice like any other ability in the game so it doesn't take long to get better at them||

[shut sparrow]

it's not much harder on switch, it just needs practice