hk-help

[hoary forge]

Let me make it triple

[tawny sapphire]

🤓

[austere jacinth]

nah knowing latin is cool

[tawny sapphire]

/j that’s interesting

[austere jacinth]

i love knowing a tiny bit of latin bc it lets you make up real words

like helioranchula

[green stone]

like nocive

[tawny sapphire]

I personally wanna stay away from languages fuck that bs

[austere jacinth]

this means hellspider but cooler

[tawny sapphire]

[tawny sapphire]

[hoary forge]

Agreed just 2 langs are enough for me

[tawny sapphire]

For me even 1 is too much

[austere jacinth]

i use it in dnd so i can come up with cool enemy names

[tawny sapphire]

That’s based lmao

[austere jacinth]

i don't actually know latin i just know a couple words

[green stone]

Watch out cause helios is also the Greek god of the sun

[tawny sapphire]

Sun Taranchula

[austere jacinth]

sun/fire/hell, pretty much the same thing

[tawny sapphire]

[green stone]

This is getting off topic so beware

[tawny sapphire]

Imma go off to eep

Gn help

[austere jacinth]

until someone arrives who wants to speak about hk we can say whatever we want

[hoary forge]

Yeah same gn

[tawny sapphire]

[austere jacinth]

have a nice rest :)

[tawny sapphire]

P.S don’t tell Grev

[green stone]

Gn you two

[bright sorrel]

thats not what that means

[austere jacinth]

ah well

sounds close enough

what does it mean then

[oak egret]

Is ||Glowing womb|| a good charm? I have 6 notches btw

[bright sorrel]

helio is sun/relating to the sun

[green stone]

Smh

[austere jacinth]

yes it's the best charm

ah wrong message

[austere jacinth]

i meant to respond to this one

you should use it all the time

constantly

[oak egret]

Ok

[austere jacinth]

i lie

[oak egret]

why D:

[austere jacinth]

dont use it it's actually the worst charm

[green stone]

It's fairly good, definitely not the best in your case

[oak egret]

alr

[austere jacinth]

it ||uses all your soul and does minimal damage||

imho it's the worst charm

[green stone]

Yeah, especially if equipped alone

[austere jacinth]

yeah

if used along with ||grubsong|| it becomes slightly less bad

or does ||grubsong|| only synergise with ||weaversong||?

[green stone]

||it becomes good with defenders crest, although you might not know that||

[austere jacinth]

i have 109% don't worry

and i watch charm tier list vids

good choice

[green stone]

Rip in pepperoni

[austere jacinth]

maybe spoiler that tho

ppl may not have seen that area

[oak egret]

||I should just spoil everything||

[austere jacinth]

yeah probs

better safe than sorry

[oak egret]

||Ok||

[austere jacinth]

lol

[green stone]

Basically yeah, there's few basic words mentionned in the pins that are OK like map, charms and such

[austere jacinth]

and probably also regular english words are okay as well

[oak egret]

alr

[austere jacinth]

||otherwise we may have to talk like this unless we want to say something like|| nail||, for instance||

[oak egret]

should i use ||dashmaster|| or ||soul catcher||

[austere jacinth]

depends what for

for movement, ||dashmaster||, for anything else, the other one

i use both in my movement build anyway

the second one is good for everything

[oak egret]

I would use both i just need more ||notches|| and charm slots

[austere jacinth]

fair

once you get all ||notches|| you can basically do whatever you want

[tardy birch]

ok now i know why they say this game is hard 😭

[hoary forge]

Got him folks lol

[hoary forge]

What happened?

[tardy birch]

||Hornnet||

[hoary forge]

[tardy birch]

it was harder than i excpected

[median jay]

I think you're supposed to have the ||double jump|| to get here but I did a funny

[tardy birch]

i take everything i said back this game is hard😭

[hoary forge]

Yep and nice

[young eagle]

So where do I bring the ||flower|| too

[oak egret]

do i have to /spoil in #hk-discussion

[hoary forge]

Path above the ||Stag|| symbol i think

[young eagle]

Ok

[hoary forge]

Nope

[oak egret]

thanks

[tardy birch]

any tips to beat

[hoary forge]

Focus on dodging first rather than attacking

[young eagle]

And I got hit immediately by parkor lol

[hoary forge]

Rip

[young eagle]

Ngl I think this parkor might be the hardest part

[hoary forge]

You should practice it first

Also I mean you have done ||pop|| I assume so it should be cakewalk for you?

[young eagle]

It’s more the fact that I don’t know what inputs in need to do once I figure that out I should be fine

[hoary forge]

Fair gl

[tardy birch]

i won 😄

[hoary forge]

Congratulations

[median jay]

So... where's my next unlock? ||Do the dreamers' areas have those?||

[hoary forge]

What do you have so far?

Can you show me your inventory?

[tardy birch]

help im lost

[zenith basin]

show and spoiler map

[hoary forge]

Ok so you have a pretty good upgrade in ||Crystal Peaks|| get that and then you can go after ||dreamers|| or down to ||City of tears|| for exploring

[zenith basin]

or write down ig

[zenith basin]

he
he has ||crystal heart||

[hoary forge]

I am talking about other nice upgrade

[austere jacinth]

lost physically or lost about where to go next?

[austere jacinth]

?

[tardy birch]

where to go

[zenith basin]

theres two other useful things from there
and both are locked behind items that he doesnt have

[zenith basin]

have you explored ||greenpath|| like fully

[austere jacinth]

just explore randomly, go to areas you haven't been to yet

that's what i did my first time

[hoary forge]

Can’t she get ||DDark||?

[tardy birch]

nope

[zenith basin]

||lantern ||

[median jay]

i got that

[zenith basin]

wait no

[hoary forge]

She has it

[austere jacinth]

that's from a shop

[zenith basin]

im also illiterate holy shit

then explore ||peaks and crossroads more|| ig

[hoary forge]

I think she can get ||DDark|| with what she have currently

[zenith basin]

...do that
progression continues after an item from ||greenpath||

[tardy birch]

i think i have it

[zenith basin]

||cloak?||

[tardy birch]

YE

caps

[zenith basin]

then explore ||crossroads||
or ||greenpath more if you want to subject yourself to suffering||

[tardy birch]

ok

[hoary forge]

@median jay you can follow this try to go down from ||City of tears|| for a new area you might have not visited yet

[austere jacinth]

that's straight after ||hornet, literally in the arena||, i don't see how they could have missed that

[zenith basin]

didnt see where they said they did ||hornet||

[median jay]

||Ancient Basin?||

[austere jacinth]

.

[zenith basin]

yk the toll thing next to a ||sewer lid in city?||
get a ||simple key|| and return there

[austere jacinth]

i hate that area

the enemies there are awful

[hoary forge]

Yeah this too + what @zenith basin said

[zenith basin]

[austere jacinth]

does ||pop|| give you a %?

[hoary forge]

But if you have been to ||Ancient Basin|| already you are missing a significant ability

[zenith basin]

no
cutscene and 2 hours wasted

[austere jacinth]

oh weird

[zenith basin]

many things dont give %

[tardy birch]

where excalty in there

[median jay]

i need 2 of those now

[zenith basin]

yk the area where you had to ||fight multiple aspids (orange spewing enemies)||

[austere jacinth]

yeah but it gives you a ||journal entry||, so i would have thought that counted

[median jay]

(i still want the ||rancid egg reedeming area in dirtmouth||)

[tardy birch]

nope

[zenith basin]

less useful

[hoary forge]

That is secondary

[austere jacinth]

there are plenty of ||small keys|| around, dw

[tardy birch]

where do i go

[austere jacinth]

prioritise progression and you'll find more

[violet ocean]

show inventory

[median jay]

ight fair enough

[hoary forge]

There are exactly the amount that you would need right?

[austere jacinth]

yes

[violet ocean]

but just to to any undiscovered places

[austere jacinth]

||4||

[hoary forge]

Yep

[shut sparrow]

||check out the many unexplored areas on your map||

[hoary forge]

Lol

[austere jacinth]

you don't need ||pantheon|| for ||true ending|| though, so there are kind of 1 more than you need (don't click on spoilers if you dont have 100%+)

[median jay]

I hate these ||crystal spewing|| enemies

[tardy birch]

ok

[austere jacinth]

wait until you get to the area to the ||far right|| of the map

[zenith basin]

you can ||hit the crystals with a nail (either the projectile or the landed version which removes it)||

[snow vigil]

unnc spoilers

[median jay]

i know that but doign that and platforming is pain

[shut sparrow]

don't mention things they don't know about

[austere jacinth]

that's what i meant yeah

[zenith basin]

i went through the entirety of ||peaks|| without knowing that
somehow

[median jay]

I've seen those get memed around

[hoary forge]

Sorry my hate for those things transcends spoilers

[austere jacinth]

i didn't know about it until after ||radiance|| (don't click if you haven't beaten a very bright boss, iykyk)

not the one in ||peaks||

[hoary forge]

Do you also know that you can ||pogo|| on ||spikey platforms|| too and then they will revert back

[median jay]

yep

[hoary forge]

Oh okay that should make things a little easier

[austere jacinth]

i didn't know about that either until it was too late; i made things a bit too hard for myself

[hoary forge]

I didn’t needed to know that my first time

[austere jacinth]

yeah thankfully it wasn't too much of a problem, i think i only got ||hit by them|| once

[hoary forge]

Hmm

[austere jacinth]

hmm what

[hoary forge]

Nothing just hmming

[austere jacinth]

okay fair

[median jay]

||my shade just dove straight into spikes, that was funny||

yes, i died in ||the dark room||

[austere jacinth]

skill issue on their part

[hoary forge]

Hey I have done this too, ig shade is like us

[austere jacinth]

it is us

[hoary forge]

True True

[austere jacinth]

oh btw ||is my shade dying in one hit bc of void heart or unbreakable strength?|| (Lora don't click, contains endgame spoilers)

[hoary forge]

||Void Heart||

[austere jacinth]

that makes sense

[median jay]

Oh, hey, I've found a path down to ||Resting grounds!||
aaaaaaaaand I can't get back

[austere jacinth]

there is a way dw

[median jay]

i gotta go around again

[hoary forge]

Shoot you should have used ||Crystal Dash||

[austere jacinth]

oh right, you've been there before

i forgor and thought you didn't have the ||stag|| there

[hoary forge]

Yeah ||Void Heart|| is op

[austere jacinth]

is that all it does though? other than the main reason obvs

[hoary forge]

Yeah that’s pretty much it, the ||Shades|| don’t attack you anymore

[austere jacinth]

i'd rather just keep the prerequisite then lol

[hoary forge]

[median jay]

oooh neat

so what exactly do the ||spell upgrades|| do? more damage?

[hoary forge]

Range + Damage

[median jay]

btw I didn't do much in ||basin||, I was like "This gives me 'Area for Later' vibes"

also the "significant ability" is ||the up spell|| right

[hoary forge]

It’s a good time to go back

[hoary forge]

I won’t say anything to that

[median jay]

it's either that or ||double jump||

[hoary forge]

Maybes

[median jay]

there's also ||a tram there, I wonder where it takes me...||

[hoary forge]

The place where you don’t wanna go…. ever

[median jay]

optional challenge, I'm assuming?

[hoary forge]

I won’t say “optional”

Or wait it is indeed optional right

[simple island]

Honestly

Go wherever you want, the game will lock yourself out of certain stuff, it may not be the path of least resistance, but hot dang will your playthrough be unique

The game was made to be able to be done in unorthodox orders if you snoop around hard enough

[flint furnace]

HI

[hoary forge]

Yea exactly I went in fully blind and I enjoyed every bit of it

[verbal torrent]

where are the ||mantis lords?||

[acoustic sigil]

Please edit your message with spoiler tags

[verbal torrent]

how do i type them

[acoustic sigil]

||like this||

[verbal torrent]

thanks

how do i get to the ||mantis lords?||

[acoustic sigil]

How far are you in that area

[hoary forge]

Explore ||Fungal Wastes|| more

[verbal torrent]

i got to the ||mantis village thingy already,|| just where is it exactly?

[median jay]

I don't even need to travel in it, it's just a convenient ||bench|| spot

[modest elm]

bottom of that region

||find and hit levers||

[verbal torrent]

thanks, ||I'll update later lol||

[modest elm]

fairly likely|| that this tram leads to a lot of interesting places||

[median jay]

oh hi there

[hoary forge]

Good luck

[torn vector]

What’s the best pre hard mode ranger stuff I can have

[plush parcel]

thpoiler tagg!!!! 🤓

[hoary forge]

And RIP

[torn vector]

I just realized this isn’t the terraria server lmao

[modest elm]

use the ||channel for specific questions, more than play-by-play ||

[median jay]

i guess i'll go to #hk-general

yeah sorry for clogging up the channel like that

[plush parcel]

I had the hellfire bow

the one that shoots rapidly u get in underground or hell

[hoary forge]

Bruh it goes to one of my most hated areas

[green rose]

kakashi sensei?!

[hoary forge]

Don’t mind me I’m just chilling here

[green rose]

aye

[modest elm]

ok

[hoary forge]

Spoilers

[plush parcel]

LMAO

[shut sparrow]

||Check Out right side of crossroads again||

[winged light]

mb

[winged light]

ty

[plush parcel]

go to peaks

[latent bay]

||Hi, I nearly finished the game, but there's smth i didn't found although I completed nearly all the map, it's this place marked with the gold pin, I need a special key but idk where is it???||

[plush parcel]

||love key in queens garden||

[latent bay]

Where can I find it precisely???

[plush parcel]

||from queens garden head to the bottom right||

[latent bay]

There?

Wait I didn't spoil it

But I got the idea

Thx

[median jay]

just a silly little question, ||is buying maps from Cornifer himself cheaper than in the shop||

[dawn sphinx]

I do not believe so

[green rose]

||ya cant buy em in da shop, duh||

[median jay]

I found one in the shop though

[green rose]

ahhhh

[tawny sapphire]

You can

[green rose]

ok

[tawny sapphire]

“Finished with the game”

[green rose]

u sure

guys im at 110% now

[remote jacinth]

Missing 2%

[zenith basin]

it is
(contrary to popular belief)

[green rose]

but i play about half an hour a day so i dont make proggres fast

[remote jacinth]

Same, skissue on your part /j

[flint elk]

🐔

[wraith sail]

Iirc yes, a bit

[balmy zenith]

I have downloaded some mods using scarab but when I open my game the mods dont load, does someone know how to fix that?

[halcyon cloak]

Don't use scarab

[shut sparrow]

read the pinned post in #1057825333841240104 and then make a post there. Make sure you give all the information requested

[latent bay]

||Not really, I haven't fought the final boss, and there's a circus that appeared in DirthMouth that I haven't checked yet||

[shut sparrow]

Also yeah I recommend switching to the Lumafly mod installer

[balmy zenith]

ok Ill try, ty!

[oak egret]

Hey is ||kingdoms edge|| important for anything?

i'll trust the reactions

[latent bay]

||Hi, I have ever skill in the game, completed the map(aside from minor things like grubs, mask shards and hallownest seal), and I have this set of charms. Am I ready to face the final boss?? And if not what do I need?||

[dawn sphinx]

The one in ||ancient basin||?

[latent bay]

Yes

[dawn sphinx]

I have not heard of this

And I have completed the true ending of the game

[latent bay]

||There's a sleeping knight, and when I use my dream nail I enter a place with clouds and servants, so I thought it was the final area aka the place where is the boss||

I haven't tried it but I got spoiled a bit, so i thought this is were is the final boss

[shut sparrow]

it's not the final boss

it's just a boss

[latent bay]

Ok thx

[latent bay]

@shut sparrow ||can I beat this boss with this set of charms,or do I need more???||

[shut sparrow]

||charms aren't the only important factor for how difficult a boss is gonna be. It's also very subjective so you can just try it out and see if you struggle a lot. If you think you can beat it then do it. If not then do it another time||

[dawn sphinx]

||there was a boss in white palace?||

[latent bay]

||Its the only boss I need to face outside from the final boss, so it's the only option||

[shut sparrow]

||it's not white palace. It's lost kin||

[latent bay]

Sorry for spoiling

[dawn sphinx]

Oh thinking of the wrong place ig

[latent bay]

I'll confront him now

Wish me luck

[dawn sphinx]

I've fought that boss I was thinking of something else

Gl retro

He was pretty hard for me

[shut sparrow]

||there is quite a lot more stuff left to do than you think Feel free to fight the final boss first tho. You'll be able to continue and do the rest afterwards on the same save file. You don't need to restart||

[latent bay]

||Too late, I already entered the place with the clouds||

[median jay]

Why do I ||randomly get essence when I kill enemies||

[latent bay]

That's normal

It's random though

[median jay]

yeah i noticed

I found a ||Pale Ore||, where can I use that?

[neat karma]

what areas have you been to

[neat karma]

||left side of city of tears!||

[median jay]

found it, ty
first upgrade, no ore required, second upgrade, 800 geo

[neat karma]

[median jay]

man i am haemorraging money

[scarlet hull]

omg ismo in help

[zenith basin]

youre brainbleeding money?

[median jay]

I'M BROKEEEE

[violet ocean]

hemorrhage just refers to internal bleeding

[zenith basin]

isnt haemorrhage a synonym for aneurysm

alr ig

if you mean the modloader theres channels for that
#1057825333841240104
#modding-discussion

[full verge]

thanks 🙂

[zenith basin]

theyre smarter than us atleast

[full verge]

lmfao dont say that come on haha

[dull zephyr]

this game 💔💔💔

[bright sorrel]

that was 2 months ago

[simple island]

2 days ago ?

Did you switch your discord from mm/dd/yyyy to dd/mm/yyyy

[bright sorrel]

no i just heavily exaggerate time on old replies bcuz its funny 🫢

day month year is peak tho

[acoustic sigil]

Hyperbole

[willow pebble]

It's been a while since i played and i don't remember where i'm supposed to go (second image are my latests achievements

[acoustic sigil]

Well you can go practically anywhere at this point in the game

||Maybe the masks on your map are a nice goal||

[willow pebble]

thanks

[tawny sapphire]

It’s not even a boss tbf

[tawny sapphire]

Wait ||LK has servants||?

[proper frost]

||the infection baloons iirc||

[tawny sapphire]

[proper frost]

I dont get it

[shut sparrow]

what

[shut sparrow]

idk what you're talking abt

[oblique urchin]

Guys I'm stuck on deep nest without light

Can someone help me?

[dawn sphinx]

1. Spoiler tag
2. Try quitting out of the game to the main menu and going back in

[oblique urchin]

I saved already

How I put spoiler tag?

[dawn sphinx]

Spoiler tag is || on each side of the message

What

Oops well uh lemme fix it

[oblique urchin]

But how

[dawn sphinx]

There

Also if you quit back out to the bench you should be able to leave without going through any dark rooms

[oblique urchin]

I fell here, I have no double jump

[oblique urchin]

?

[proper frost]

||there's a visible up transition on the left i think||

||Also tag double jump||

[dawn sphinx]

I think you can leave to the right as well

[oblique urchin]

There is something blocking me

[proper frost]

||only if you pass||

[proper frost]

||uhh what is it?
I dont remember||

[oblique urchin]

Something black

I think I need the shadow dash

[proper frost]

||but the game is designed for you not to be soft locked for sure||

Tagss

[oblique urchin]

Hiw

[proper frost]

And you very likelly don't

[oblique urchin]

How*

[proper frost]

|| on both sides

[oblique urchin]

The left I need the duble jump

[proper frost]

Tags

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/1074774873429262386/HeySoIMadeAFakeModPingEmoteBruh.gif

[dawn sphinx]

There isn't a ||shade gate|| in the entirety of ||Deepnest|| anyways iirc

[proper frost]

Nuh uh

[dawn sphinx]

Huh

[proper frost]

||On the right of the room he's in,leads to ss||

[dawn sphinx]

Oh

[oblique urchin]

I need tag a mod?

[proper frost]

I need to tag a mod apperently

[oblique urchin]

Ok

[proper frost]

If you don't use spoiler tags,mods should be summoned

[oblique urchin]

This is what I'm saying

[proper frost]

So please use them,by putting || at the start and end of your message

[oblique urchin]

CAN SOMEONE TEACH ME HOW TO DO THIS?????

[oblique urchin]

Teach me

[zenith basin]

pins

[proper frost]

I LITERALLY said it

[oblique urchin]

How

[proper frost]

Duuuude

[zenith basin]

|| on both sides

[oblique urchin]

ItestI

[proper frost]

Twice

[oblique urchin]

Not working

[zenith basin]

twice also thats I not |

[oblique urchin]

?

ltestl

[zenith basin]

[proper frost]

Double up on the lines

[oblique urchin]

What lines?

[proper frost]

You explained it poorly tbf

[zenith basin]

copy paste | if you cant type it

[oblique urchin]

I'm gonna try leave, if don't I come back

[proper frost]

The ones that you put in your first messge

[zenith basin]

he put uppercase i not |

[proper frost]

Or just /spoiler duh

[proper frost]

Oh welp

[zenith basin]

oh that also works iirc

[proper frost]

/spoiler tags the whole message

Oh what

Yeah okay,you just need to select the discord pop up command when you type /spoiler

[shut sparrow]

[rough spruce]

Google says you end the run if died from|| the radiance, is there radiance in god of pantheon? If there is, does dying from it counts as an actual death?||

||i'm doing steel run||

[safe hedge]

||Dying in dream bosses doesn’t count||

Though there’s an exception to that… I don’t remember what

[rough spruce]

i see

[desert pawn]

||2, radiance, and white palace, if I remember correctly||

[jovial plank]

||dying in godhome doesnt count as a death but dying to the actual radiance fight does||, if that’s what you’re asking

[rough spruce]

I see

[bitter gorge]

||Anyone got tips for nightmare king grimm ive got all charms in game except the ojne from him but i always die to him||

[oblique urchin]

ok duh

i dont need anymore, by

[proper frost]

By myself
Miki Asakura

Good album

[winged trench]

im having a lot of trouble with the mini boss in top right of ||soul sanctum ||

[willow kraken]

||soul warrior?||

[winged trench]

idk his name but i just beat the fucker

gave 200 gold

[cobalt sun]

Alright question, ||for pantheon 5 which would be better to use, quick focus and longnail or unbreakable heart and mark of pride||

[dawn sphinx]

||Heart and quickslash/strength/shamans||

[winged trench]

bro these fucking teleporting dudes in ||soul sanctum|| make me want to rip my hair out

[cobalt sun]

Okay cool, quick tips for ||floorless Markoth||? ||my strat in 4 was spam abyssal shriek so i can survive watcher knights||

[winged trench]

||i ran into soul master by accident im sad||

[green stone]

||use your nail only on the 1st phase to get max soul (maybe throw a spell if you're already at max) then spam vengeful spirits fril a wall (slide on it and press quick cast) when he makes the double shield spins, ideally you also have shaman stone equipped to deal more damage and increase the hitbox of the spell, like it will hit the boss twice with one spell||

[cobalt sun]

||i was somehow incredibly lucky with a pogo strat and instantly died to nkg because its been two days since i beat him||

||that is an unfair line of bosses||

[green stone]

Ahah, it really is harsh

[winged trench]

any tips for ||soul master|| im getting cooked

[cobalt sun]

||what attacks are getting you||

[winged trench]

the ||dash||

but i realized i can ||pogo|| over it

[cobalt sun]

||pogo over the dash light tap jump when hes protecting himself with orbs and the rest should be a bunch of straightforward chasing and dashing away||

[winged trench]

DUDE HE WAS ABOUT TO ||DOWNSLAM BUT HE FAKED ME OUT||

hes lowk easier than any of the other bosses ive fought tho ngl

[cobalt sun]

||that is a matter of reaction speed, its good to prepare to dash whenever he downslams||

[green stone]

Sorry to be guy, but you need to add spoiler tag to ||dash and pogo||

[winged trench]

i might go buy an ||extra notch|| so i can use ||dash master||

[winged trench]

no problem thanks for telling me

[green stone]

[winged trench]

[winged trench]

scary

[cobalt sun]

||personally I use a jump to avoid the downslam so i can dash after||

[green stone]

Btw a tip would be to ||jump when he appears to slam the ground and like that even if you dash and he doesn't slam, you'll touch the ground before he slams again and you'll be able to dash again instead of the usual cooldown/tricky timing between 2 ground dashes||

[green stone]

Wait... I'm 🐌

[winged trench]

man i beat him but i didnt know there was a ||2nd phase|| bro

do i have to do all that again

[green stone]

Yeah...

[cobalt sun]

Should probably spoiler that ||2nd phase|| thing

[winged trench]

this boss is hard

i mean its easy but so easy that its hard

[cobalt sun]

Overconfidence is a slow but insidious killer

Not much other tips that we can really give that hasnt been said

[winged trench]

yeah

i like how easy but hard he is he's like a medium difficulty

i also noticed that in ||2nd phase|| his ||downslam doesn't have ripples like first phase||

[cobalt sun]

||yeah just keep dashing this phase until he stops to shoot orbs only, there is no chance to heal during this one||

[winged trench]

im gonna head back to dirtmouth i got 1.5k is there anything notable i should buy?

[cobalt sun]

||did you already get the shards||

[winged trench]

1.6k*

[winged trench]

nope, dont have ||lamp either||

[cobalt sun]

Get that as soon as you can some places are ||impossible without the lamp||

Unless something is currently more important to your run

[winged trench]

nah i dont rlly got an objective

[winged trench]

i remember this one super dark place

what about the ||key?||

to unlock the place in dirtmouth or does it unlock any door?

[cobalt sun]

||did you already unlock the hole in the ground in city of tears ||

[winged trench]

where is that]

[cobalt sun]

||right underneath the building of the boss you fought on ground floor||

[winged trench]

could u show on map pls?

[cobalt sun]

||right before the knight's statue||

[winged trench]

here?

[cobalt sun]

the ||one in the ground||

that is water

[winged trench]

i see

ill check it out

so what do i buy? || the key?||

[cobalt sun]

||that and the lamp are both progression items choose whichever you feel like||

[winged trench]

what were my options again

||in terms of progressing towards a new ability which one||

[cobalt sun]

||in terms of progressing a new ability you're gonna need to beat the boss||

[winged trench]

okay lol

[cobalt sun]

||but lamp has another one you can get without that||

[winged trench]

||whats mask shard for?||

[cobalt sun]

||four of em gives a health upgrade||

[winged trench]

i just saw the || lantern is 1800||

i'll just buy the|| mask frag and the key for now and get it later||

[cobalt sun]

good idea

[winged trench]

2/4 on it rn

are the other two accesible rn?

oh i see he sells it

[winged trench]

will he sell me the last piece?

[cobalt sun]

||next buyable shard requires an item you cant reach yet, however if you have wall jump theres two areas in forgotten crossroads that are now accessible for two, its a small area so they should be easy to find, also at the queen's station stag theres a semi-difficult platforming section to get one||

[winged trench]

if i buy the next one for ||550|| i'll have ||3/4||

is ||3/4 the max you can get?||

[cobalt sun]

what do you mean by that

[winged trench]

so am i able to get the ||health upgrade without the item i cant reach yet||

[cobalt sun]

yeah they're all over the game

||but check out forgotten crossroads for areas you couldn't reach before mantis claw||

[winged trench]

should i be afraid of that ||boss looking thing||

[cobalt sun]

should probably spoiler that ||but its not an active threat||

[winged trench]

game is warning me 😭

||is the egg gonna hatch late game or something||

that's my prediction atleast

[winged trench]

how tf do i..

[cobalt sun]

That is not possible ||rn without extreme skill||

[winged trench]

could you circle some areas to explore now that i have || dash|| im kinda lost

[winged trench]

idk what that is but sounds cool

[cobalt sun]

||no i mean like some people managed to skip that without the ability required with very precise timing||

[inland shadow]

It's basically impossible for a first-time casual player

I know I wasn't able to do it until I had like 200 hours in the game

[winged trench]

is it ||just a bunch of dashing with pogo||

[cobalt sun]

Look at ||the areas without closed lines||

[winged trench]

alr

[inland shadow]

You're on the right track, but it's harder than that

[winged trench]

can u send a vid of someone doing it im curious now

[winged trench]

i found this place that ||regens my sou||

pretty cool

||i died at brooding malwek||

[somber hill]

:0

[winged trench]

dude is so tanky like holy shit

[somber hill]

dw they are one of the harder early game

[winged trench]

i can only dodge for so long 💔

[somber hill]

without practice they're hard

what is dodge

[winged trench]

bro runs into the attacks

[somber hill]

what attacks

attack where

[winged trench]

first time i didnt do so bad

[somber hill]

[inland shadow]

i probably shouldn't be doing this for the spoilers, but here's a vid of me doing it

https://vimeo.com/1027519077?share=copy

[winged trench]

i asked for it so its ok

[somber hill]

i think remove the link embed, its technically a spoiler, the link itself is fine ig

yea now its fine

some ppl also spoiler the link too but i dont think ppl will click on it

[winged trench]

i could probably do that tbh

[somber hill]

:0

also the reward isnt rly worth it

[inland shadow]

yeah the reward really isn't worth it 💀

[winged trench]

o ok

imma switch to the ||charm that boosts my spells for malwek||

[somber hill]

u could try and u might gain pride

[somber hill]

YES YES OP charm

[inland shadow]

🔥🔥

[winged trench]

i really need to get ||5 notches so i can keep my map on me dude||

[somber hill]

lol

if u have a goal u dont need it]

[inland shadow]

melon are you hollow noob or just same pfp

[somber hill]

im hollow noob

or am i

oh well i guess ill change back the melon cult died down

[winged trench]

this boss is pissing me off

[inland shadow]

it kinda does

btw, if you want, you can send your ||charm|| menu and inventory and we can give you tips (:

[winged trench]

ok :P

[somber hill]

not much charm tips with ||5 notches and shaman||

u only have 2 flexible

[winged trench]

||i dont even have 5 notches||

[somber hill]

oh

i see

even better

[winged trench]

@inland shadow

[forest pewter]

Perfecr

[somber hill]

oh i misinterpreted i see

yea thats decent, if u want to have more ||spell boost use soul catcher||

instead of ||sans||

[winged trench]

i beat him ||he dropped a mask frag now i can buy the last one ||

[somber hill]

[inland shadow]

[somber hill]

gj

[torn vector]

||What dream boss is easier? Soul tyrant or failed champion ||

[somber hill]

prolly latter

[torn vector]

Or it there another I don’t know about

[somber hill]

there are more

[inland shadow]

really depends on ur gear, imo former

[torn vector]

||I already did white defender and lost kin ||

Art those the only ones left

Are

[somber hill]

wait no former

[torn vector]

I have everything

[somber hill]

english is hard

[inland shadow]

Every ||charm||?

[torn vector]

Yeah

[inland shadow]

definitely ||tyrant|| then

[normal pivot]

hi

[inland shadow]

wait actually, maybe ||failed champion||

[normal pivot]

i mean ||failed champ|| is harder

[hoary forge]

I mean its subjective but probably ||Failed Champion||

[normal pivot]

maybe do ||tyrant||

[torn vector]

Okay

I tried him before and he made me rage so hard

[hoary forge]

Who do you find more easy in base version?

[normal pivot]

hes hard

[torn vector]

It’s just the constant rocks falling from the ceiling that get me

[inland shadow]

I think ||Failed Champion|| is harder without the ||cheese|| but easier with it

[torn vector]

Cheese?

How do I do it

[normal pivot]

i think hes def a lot easier with ||shade dash||

[hoary forge]

Use ||Shade Dash|| or ||DDark||

[inland shadow]

||During his stagger you can hit his shell (not his head) to extend the timer, letting you get unlimited dnails and heals||

You just need to get to first ||stagger|| then you can spam ||shrieks|| to bring him to his next one

and then the fight is free

[hoary forge]

||Failed Champion|| is easy with ||QS + strength + pure nail||

you can just stagger him before he even gets a chance to attack

[torn vector]

||What charms do I use for tyrant ||

[hoary forge]

Maybe try to use ||Shaman Stone + Nailarts||

[torn vector]

||I’m not good with nail arts||

[inland shadow]

I like using my main charm build: ||shaman stone + qs + strength + sbody + gsong||, but i totally get if you use ||mop or longnail|| because those charms are very good against him

[hoary forge]

Use ||Nailmaster’s glory|| Charm

[inland shadow]

You can try out using ||nail arts||, but imo they don't work well on that fight

[torn vector]

Yeah, I thought so

[deft trench]

Some Brazilian ask me a question

[hoary forge]

That’s the same build I use for everything

Except ||Shaman Stone|| I use ||MoP||

[inland shadow]

[inland shadow]

to be fair in most ||pantheon|| runs for example i use ||nmg|| instead of ||gsong|| bc i find myself getting hit less and ||nmg|| is necessary on a few bosses (e.x. ||markoth||)

[hoary forge]

Yeah I have only ever used ||Grubsong|| in ||WP||

When I have one ||notch|| available I use ||nmg|| or ||sb||

[inland shadow]

||white palace|| is annoying

||path of pain|| is easier to me

[inland shadow]

finally someone who recognizes the utility of ||sb|| 😌

[hoary forge]

But fr though after doing ||pop|| it does feel less annoying than ||WP||

[hoary forge]

The most op charm besides ||compass|| imo

[inland shadow]

||to be fair it is kinda useless if you don't use quickslash||

[forest pewter]

Heheh

[inland shadow]

||i feel like the reason its popular reputation is so bad is bc ppl get it from salubra, try it out, find that it's "useless," and they don't realize how op it is later on||

[hoary forge]

I never took off ||Quickslash|| since I have got it

[forest pewter]

Wait a minute nobody said || strentgh is the best charm || yet that's crazy

[cobalt sun]

||strength just speeds things up, doesnt really make things easier||

[inland shadow]

||imo strength shaman and quickslash are all really close||

[hoary forge]

The best 1 ||notch|| charm*

[forest pewter]

That literally what makes it best charm in the game

[hoary forge]

My absolute best charm in the game is definitely ||QuickSlash||

[inland shadow]

that's fair

[cobalt sun]

||i rely so much on mark of pride that charm binding made me miss 50% of my hits||

[inland shadow]

||mop|| crutch moment

[forest pewter]

3rd best for me cuz it's not vaible against every boss like || strentgh and shaman || are

[forest pewter]

Bruh

[hoary forge]

What’s not to like increased ||dps + more soul|| and combined with ||sb|| you just cheese most of the bosses

[inland shadow]

it is viable against every boss, you just need to be better (i understand what you're talking about, it's kinda useless against ||vengefly king|| for example)

also ||shaman|| isn't "viable" against some bosses (the ones where you can always be hitting nail at full speed)

[torn vector]

||Why can’t I puts dream gate next to the soul masters body ||

I can’t put one anywhere in the room

[forest pewter]

||sly|| and || vengly king|| moment

[cobalt sun]

|| i mainly use the nail strengthening stuff, the spells mostly manage to disrupt my flow unless I can somehow work it into a pattern||

[inland shadow]

oh it's really good against ||sly||

[forest pewter]

Put it room beffore that

[hoary forge]

Leave that room and put just outside that room

[forest pewter]

I play on mobile not for me

[inland shadow]

I think Team Cherry disabled the ||dreamgate|| in that room so you couldn't skip the "||dive tutorial||" section

[forest pewter]

Sorry but snail is snail

[inland shadow]

||PoP|| on mobile is crazy tho

[forest pewter]

Yeah took me. 20 hours

[hoary forge]

||P5 41/42|| is just as crazy

[forest pewter]

Wait yeah that took me 30 hours

[cobalt sun]

Anyways I’ve been ||training for Pantheon 5 with ascended grimm, is nail arts for main source of damage the way to go or am i being stupid||

[hoary forge]

Like normal ||grimm|| or ||nkg||?

[inland shadow]

unless you're doing ||bindings||, ||strength + qs|| is going to be superior (for both ||grimm|| fights)

[hoary forge]

Either way no

[forest pewter]

||Quick slas strentgh For normal grim
Nail arts for nkg ||

[cobalt sun]

||Its just theres so much time between when Im able to hit nkg that i feel I can squeeze out more with charging||

[hoary forge]

If you feel like it than go for it

Anyways I have been practising ||PV|| in ||ascended|| and it’s making me cry any tips?

I am trying to beat every boss at least ||Ascended|| before attempting ||P5|| is that right strategy?

[torn vector]

||What’s the point of giving the godtuner the flower||

[cobalt sun]

Being able to win ||with less hit points means you’re better at dodging whats being thrown at you||

But ||some bosses are so easy thats kinda not needed||

[jovial plank]

it pretty much causes like one minor change

[hoary forge]

Yeah and I need to better dodge in ||p5||

[torn vector]

Does it affect any other NPC’s?

[jovial plank]

nope

[torn vector]

Damn

[forest pewter]

Changes a Cutsence

[torn vector]

Can I give it to ||zote ||

[jovial plank]

i dont think so

[torn vector]

Damn

[forest pewter]

Nope

[cobalt sun]

||what moves are you having trouble with||

[forest pewter]

|| ascend obbleoble and nosk is not needed || tbh

[torn vector]

Who can I give it to?

[forest pewter]

||Oro ||

[torn vector]

Screw him

[hoary forge]

That ||ground spikes|| thingy he does

[cobalt sun]

Fuck thats the one thing i do not have a strategy for

[hoary forge]

Just for my happiness I will do it

[hoary forge]

Give me tips for other attacks, I will read

[forest pewter]

For that you just gotta practice it over and over till you build a good reaction time there's no strategy for it

[cobalt sun]

||It really comes down to being fast enough to position yourself into the middle and shade soul to make the fight go faster||

[jovial plank]

hmm
for me i’d say no
while in ||p5|| they have their ||ascended arenas, they still have their attuned damage and hp||
if you want to practice ||ascended bosses for p5||, you can do that, but imo it’s not necessary

[hoary forge]

Yea thought so

[forest pewter]

Can yu give me tips for the stupid || puffer fish || attack

[somber hill]

oh oh lemme try find image

[hoary forge]

Hmm I see

[forest pewter]

Nooooo

[cobalt sun]

||which one is that, daggers?||

[forest pewter]

Not you again trying to bully me

[jovial plank]

||elderbug, godseeker, oro, that’s all i know you can give it to||

[inland shadow]

nah i know the image he's talking about, it's a good one

[forest pewter]

When he starts spamming projectiles

[hoary forge]

Lol

[somber hill]

[forest pewter]

I will not click

I will not

[hoary forge]

You must click

[somber hill]

smh missing out

[forest pewter]

Nooooo

[sour yoke]

Do it, no spoilers

[hoary forge]

Its a legit strat no joke

[inland shadow]

||grimm or nkg||?

[forest pewter]

Darn it I got trolled again with the same trick

[somber hill]

ur making it seem less legit 🇵🇰

[forest pewter]

||Nkg ||

[somber hill]

[hoary forge]

Nice

[cobalt sun]

||daggers has a line of fire set up when he starts dont jump up, walk to maneuver yourself, jumping is just asking to get hit||

[inland shadow]

wait i wrote a wall of tips for that boss, do you want me to send it again

[somber hill]

||hes asking abt pufferfish||

[forest pewter]

Those look alot of like fire ball than daggers honestly

[cobalt sun]

||what the fuck is pufferfish||

[somber hill]

🇵🇰

[cobalt sun]

||Oh youre talking about grimm||

||I thought this was pure vessel||

[forest pewter]

@cobalt sun that is puffer fish

[inland shadow]

@forest pewter

idk how helpful this will be now but:

||Flame pillars: Walk slowly across the arena, upslash at nkg if you want to deal some damage. More advanced strats that do more damage do exist but they're harder to explain||

||Dash uppercut: EITHER jump and pogo nkg as he dashes toward you OR dash away from nkg during his dash (so in the same direction as nkg's dash) and hit him before his does his uppercut||

||Dive dash: NKG pauses for a bit after touching the ground, before dashing, just pogo him while he does that or jump over him||

||Fire bats: NKG releases two sets of bats: two at the top and two at the bottom. Dashing between these worked for me, but if that doesn't work for you other people have different strategies||

||Cloak spines: Manuever between the spines, use dive/ddark if you can't dodge this||

||Pufferfish: Go to the edges of the arena, and do as short of a jump as possible and only jump when you need to, and "circle back" after you've successfuly cleared each fireball.||

[hoary forge]

I need this thing for ||PV||

[forest pewter]

I only needed the last one I can do the rest hitless
XD
But thanks anyways

[cobalt sun]

This guy has the right idea for ||pufferfish||

[inland shadow]

i can write one

[forest pewter]

Or does he?

[hoary forge]

Thank you

[forest pewter]

Remove ||puffer fish ||attack from the damm game fr

[forest pewter]

@teamcherry

[hoary forge]

I like that attack wym

It’s the best attack smh

[forest pewter]

Nooooooooo

It's the stupiddst and unfair

[wraith dawn]

It's really easy to dodge

[cobalt sun]

It's the one attack where my heart rate can finally calm down

[wraith dawn]

f

r

[hoary forge]

What’s a better attack than ||pufferfish|| where you are constantly jumping for your life, not being able to counterattack and it makes you realise how bad you are when you get hit

[cobalt sun]

||the counterattack is abyssal shriek right when he starts and dashing away from the middle||

[wraith dawn]

i usually just let him do his regular attacl

[hoary forge]

I do nail only ||grimm|| always

[wraith dawn]

same

[hoary forge]

That’s the way

[wraith dawn]

unless its ||nmkg||

[cobalt sun]

there really isnt a ||lot of spell oppurtunities for nkg anyways||

[somber hill]

uh just speedrun with ||spells||

[hoary forge]

||spells|| are for noobs

[wraith dawn]

But i don't want to

[inland shadow]

||soul daggers (the one where he shoots a bunch of small projectiles): just shade cloak through||

||triple slash (THE HARDEST attack): this one takes a lot of practice, you need to build the reaction time in order to jump and pogo/parry his slash as soon as he does the telegraph. i struggled with this one a lot||

||soul pillars: where pv is is always a safe spot, once he jumps high into the air go a little left or right, you can either pogo him (safer) or upslash him/slash him with sbody (a lot more damage but less safe)||

||lunge: throughout the fight, don't be constantly to close to pv but don't get so far that he's off screen, this attack has a relatively long telegraph and you can easily just jump over it||

||parry (the one where he does the stance): don't hit him from the front, it's hard to dodge. if you want, pogo or ddark it||

||focus: go outside the large bubble and go for three shade souls, being careful to avoid the smaller bubbles. or (better strat imo): ddark about halfway through the animation and then go for a bunch of nail hits||

||void tendrils: jump as soon as you see the telegraph for the attack, i like dashing over to him and then pogo + ddark||

final notes:
||don't be pogoing over him too much except where described, otherwise he'll do the jump attack which is annoying||

[somber hill]

u can beat ||grimm at 1st pufferfish instantly with shrieks|| and for ||nkg u just skip to like 3rd puffer||

[hoary forge]

Thank you thank you

[wraith dawn]

blud wrote a whole essay

[cobalt sun]

it was asked for

[wraith dawn]

fair eanough

[hoary forge]

I needed that chat

[jovial plank]

nuh uh

[somber hill]

gl doing ||p5|| without ||spells||

[cobalt sun]

||shade dash really is the best strat for daggers? I just walk||

[inland shadow]

it's the safest imo

[somber hill]

yea but if he chains something u might need it again so ur gonna ||dive||

[inland shadow]

i never use ||shade dash|| in the fight other than that attack

[somber hill]

cuz ||dive is superior||

[hoary forge]

Can’t I just ||Shade dash|| through ||triple slash||?

[inland shadow]

also using ||shade dash|| there lets you get closer to the boss to deal damage

[inland shadow]

you can but the timing is tough and it's actually less consistent

[somber hill]

to ||dive = to damage tho||

[forest pewter]

Big Blunder fr

[somber hill]

[cobalt sun]

||the timing is so tight for that one||

[hoary forge]

Will ||Sharp shadow|| help in that case?

[somber hill]

yea thats the thing, most ppl just pogo over him

[somber hill]

yes... but why...

[forest pewter]

Lmao

Sounds like hell

[somber hill]

hell is a compliment imo

[inland shadow]

the thing is pogoing that attack is one of most satisfying things in the game imo

[forest pewter]

Imagine not ussing || spells ||

[hoary forge]

What do you mean I can’t even do it with ||spells||

[somber hill]

u can try

[inland shadow]

i use ||spells|| a lot but not on ||grimm||

[somber hill]

it is rly bees

[forest pewter]

Whaaaaaaat ?

[hoary forge]

Ok ok got it

[forest pewter]

Why not it makes the fight so much faster

[somber hill]

pogo or ||parry||?

[wraith dawn]

i only used nail on ||grimm||

[cobalt sun]

theres not a lot of time to

[hoary forge]

Last thing your charm build for ||PV||?

[inland shadow]

i mean ||nkg||

[forest pewter]

There is

[cobalt sun]

||on nkg?||

[forest pewter]

Yeah I demolished him on || p5 with spells ||

[inland shadow]

nowdays i use ||qs ustrength shaman sbody (any one notch charm)||

when i was learning the fight i liked using ||mark of pride||, it let me play a lot safer and learn the attacks better

[forest pewter]

Yeah

[inland shadow]

just curious which attacks do you use ||spells|| on

[hoary forge]

Yeah ||MoP|| is staying ||Shaman|| can go away

[somber hill]

:0

gg

[inland shadow]

||btw if you don't use shaman make sure to use the ddark strat i mentioned for the focus attack||

[forest pewter]

||Fire pillars and when where he comes from above and lunges towards you || I collect || soul || from others attacks

[wraith dawn]

bro ain't no way ||spells|| is a spoiler

[cobalt sun]

||I can't use spells if I can't fit it into a rhythm||

[somber hill]

wdym

[forest pewter]

Everything is spoiler

It's the rule

[somber hill]

?tag pins2

[languid radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985794659894829117/1039743031043178606/pins2.png?ex=66d09368&is=66cf41e8&hm=e6586d5839b97a60d53d4ceedebb81368b0c737f14225ae6bb1ddb3ea729adb1&

[forest pewter]

That's Skill issue then

[inland shadow]

bro with ||nail|| you can do at least 192 damage on that attack, ||spells|| are at most only matching that

[cobalt sun]

||thats why gpz annoys me a lot even if i got used to him, dude has no rhythm and is just pure reaction speed||

[inland shadow]

that's why it's fun! (:

[forest pewter]

Not on mobile also the|| pogo on nkg feel ridiculously risky i use to just dodge it
But now I d dark it ||

[somber hill]

u could get 240 with ||2 shrieks only before he even finishes and u still have enough time to dodge and hit with nails more|| i think

[cobalt sun]

could you give me tips then?

[somber hill]

dont take my word for that but i thihk

[inland shadow]

you can get in 2 ||shrieks||?

[somber hill]

||shrieks|| is pretty fast iirc

lemme see numbers

[forest pewter]

Also I would like to know which attack gets that much damage

[bright sorrel]

[forest pewter]

Which attack??

[somber hill]

||fire pillars||

no numbers saying how long ||abyss shriek goes for but i assume somewhere around 0.8 which is like more than enough u could prolly get 4 if ur movement is perfect and the location when u start is perfect||

[inland shadow]

the ||fire pilalrs||

[inland shadow]

i don't see more than 3 being consistently possible given that the ||pillars|| track your location

[forest pewter]

Oh mean when you just spam nail in mid air?
That's looks Impossible to me

[somber hill]

which is why ur location needs to be perfect too

u loop back with ||shade dash|| or something

[bright sorrel]

or is it

[somber hill]

like u start under and u do 2 then loop back for another 2 and maybe 1 or 2 nail hits

[inland shadow]

ponder

[cobalt sun]

||just beefed it on p5 nkg practicing on ascended doesn't matter if your brain has just experienced multiple bosses to overwrite your knowledge||

[somber hill]

what bosses

'i only know ||nkg||'

[forest pewter]

But Stress is insane on || p5 ||

[cobalt sun]

||floorless markoth to zote is fucking evil||

[forest pewter]

Overrated boss

[somber hill]

he

[forest pewter]

||zote is free but yeah markoth requires alot of skill ||

[inland shadow]

||markoth gets consistent with a ton of practice||

[forest pewter]

||Zote|| is also free with good reaction time

[inland shadow]

yeah

[forest pewter]

Ok I do not remember ||markoth ||being so unfair man
Why does he keep spawing words right at my face

[sour yoke]

[scenic egret]

dont move so fast

[noble lodge]

Hey

||Im trying to get into City of Tears. The main entrance in blocked off. Ive enter it once before then the door shut behind me. Im currently at deepnest trying to get to City of tears. Idk where to go||

[dawn sphinx]

Ok cool thx

Uh

So you're gonna need to go back into ||City|| through the right side, which you can do in a couple ways, mainly through the ||tram pass found in deepnest|| or through ||Crystal Peaks||

[shut sparrow]

don't spoil things like that if you're unsure whether they know about it

[simple island]

You left the place somehow, get back in the way you left

[noble lodge]

Think I died to get back

[simple island]

No, when you get in the game saves and forces you to stay in ||city||

It’s like they place an invisible bench right after the door

Are you perhaps, using mods ?

[noble lodge]

Not using mods

||What do all the symbols on the map mean||

[simple island]

Well you exited in some ways
There is a ||stag, an elevator||

[simple island]

You bought those
Some indicate ||lifeblood, some benches, some stags, some vendors…||

[halcyon cloak]

Any tips for ||the watchers knights||

I just can't beat them

[safe hedge]

Don’t focus on damage, focus on staying alive

It’s an endurance fight

[simple island]

Could you send your inventory and charm inventory ? Just so we can get an idea of what you can use ?

[cobalt sun]

i finally get ||pure vessel, the floor is fucking lava||

[simple island]

[forest pewter]

What? But I always focus on damage

[jade sedge]

Please delete the images since they arent spoiler tagged. You can resend them with spoiler tags

[halcyon cloak]

sry i forgot

[forest pewter]

@halcyon cloak imagine not ussing || spells ||

[cold pine]

||Watcher knights|| only nail

[forest pewter]

Go back to || crystal peak || there's an really useful upgrade there

[cold pine]

||I do them radiant Yesterday ( i was in ascended so it doesn't count but hitless)||

[forest pewter]

[cold pine]

Which is

Focus ?

[forest pewter]

Tbh they are so much easier with || spell spam ||

[forest pewter]

|| d dark ||

[halcyon cloak]

? what upgrade

[cold pine]

I thought u said charm

My bad

[forest pewter]

Something that demolishes || watcher knights ||

[forest pewter]

If u want I can point on the map it's exact location

[halcyon cloak]

i will please

[simple island]

Hmm, well you are missing quite a few easy to grab ||upgrades
But I suppose with the equipment you have you will have to focus on nail damage mostly
Your charm build is very good, you can switch grubsong and steady body, up to you
In wk you want to focus as much as possible on trying to limit how many knights you face, a way to do that is to always try to focus the same knight, and get lots of damage in/heal when one of them is dead
Dive can be really useful in a pinch to dodge an attack
I see that you have quick focus, so you can heal in the fight, but never try to go for two heals, and only heal after both knights attacked at the same time ||

[halcyon cloak]

ty for the help

[simple island]

It’s just at the bottom right of ||peaks||

Not need for a red circle on your map

[halcyon cloak]

ty

[forest pewter]

I mean it's pretty easy to miss so that's why I wanted to mark it

[simple island]

But you can also buy more ||charms at salubra, which includes very good stuff like shaman stone, and maybe you can try to find a use for that "elegant key"|| does the design of it remind you of something you’ve faced ?

[simple island]

A non explored transition is a non explored transition

[forest pewter]

Alrigh fine I won't

Okay wtf

[vocal flint]

guys how do you fight the sun i never figured out how to get to the boss fight

[cold pine]

The Sun

[vocal flint]

is it

[forest pewter]

||Dream nail hollow knight||

[cold pine]

Yeah

[forest pewter]

Wait hold on

[cold pine]

Wait u have || void heart|| charm ?

[vocal flint]

yes

[forest pewter]

U need alot more than just || essence ||

[forest pewter]

Oh perfect

[cold pine]

||Fight hk , when hornet Attack fih , dnail||

[vocal flint]

im pretty sure i have just about everything

[simple island]

Just go to the ||final boss the||n

[forest pewter]

|| dream nail hk when u see essence particles ||

[cold pine]

After

[vocal flint]

can i like go back to his corpse and do that

[cold pine]

[forest pewter]

He's not that dead

[vocal flint]

its been a bit since ive played

[forest pewter]

U can't really kill him

[halcyon cloak]

yep it's been a while that I think I have to do it but I also have the ||coliseum tier 3|| to do

[cold pine]

U Can be him

[forest pewter]

Tbh|| colo 3 is insane without max gear||

[simple island]

You are not ready for that (also spoilers !!)

[cold pine]

Don't

[forest pewter]

Imma be honest you wibb be demolished if try imma be that

[halcyon cloak]

i'm honestly not far from finishing in 2 try but i have troll at the end

[cold pine]

U reached ||god Tamer ?||

[forest pewter]

How far did you made it?

[halcyon cloak]

i don't know that ||coliseum|| is that hard

[forest pewter]

Duuude

[cold pine]

[jade sedge]

Remember spoiler tags

[forest pewter]

The first two are fine but the last one is massive increase in difficultly I wouldn't recommend trying it before getting every upgrade

[simple island]

I mean if you find grinding them without max equip fun, we won’t stop you, just don’t rage quit trying them that’s all

[jade sedge]

Spoiler tag this too please

[forest pewter]

[simple island]

Me when people don’t acknowledge replies if you don’t ping them

[forest pewter]

[vocal flint]

i just have to ask what part of this is a spoiler

[halcyon cloak]

||wave 15||

[forest pewter]

|| collesum ||

[vocal flint]

oh lmao okay

[jade sedge]

Here basically all hk content needs spoiler tags

[forest pewter]

The ||spike floor??||

[cold pine]

Is there Wave number

[cold pine]

Ofc.

[halcyon cloak]

no i used the wiki to remember (btw this is a good mod idea)

[simple island]

Sometime I’d admit that spoilers can be somewhat hard to see, but for once it was clear cut

[cobalt sun]

question ||is p5 pure vessel ascended, not that it matters there doesnt seem to be much difference other than damage||

[forest pewter]

|| only the arenas are changed to ascend difficult the boses themselves are on attuned difficulty ||

[simple island]

Basically ||ascended is double damage, more health for all bosses expect the ones who already have a shit ton of health and sometimes arena changes||

||Pv already has 1.5k|| which is the max health ever goes on one entity

[cobalt sun]

||oh so its just the damage it doesnt make em faster or anything||

[simple island]

Nah

It’s a nice way to know if you are consistent at a boss or not

[forest pewter]

Yeah ||health and damage but thier attacks are same ||