hk-help

[cold surge]

oh

[mortal bronze]

I have performed this pogo shit

[sacred flower]

what should i expect for ||the second half of pantheon 4? Just beat white defender and reached the checkpoint for the first time||

[mortal bronze]

barely

[cold surge]

well i dont really know but i remmeber i continued the game easily there

[fathom bison]

Personally i wouldnt have been so direct but yes there are more options available to you than just ||Lantern Required Area||

[wintry verge]

|| i didn't find anything, other than hearing a sound of crying in the very top||

[forest pewter]

Leave it ur very near in green path

[forest pewter]

Yes there's||break able wall there ||

[sacred flower]

tag

[cold surge]

yes go to that

[wintry verge]

Ah, alright

[fathom bison]

That are doesnt have progress in it

[cold surge]

wdym?

[fathom bison]

It has a goodie, sure but like

[cold surge]

hes trying to get ||soul essence||

[fathom bison]

Ok i know what soul is, i know what ||essence|| is

[forest pewter]

Go to the 2nd closest unexplored area near you in greenpatg

[fathom bison]

Combined? Idk what that is

[mossy stream]

|| how to obtain the elegant key||

[cold surge]

i mean ||dream essence|| lol

[mossy stream]

is it from ||sly?||

[cold surge]

but you know what i meant

[forest pewter]

U buy it from shopkeeper

[fathom bison]

||Give sly his key back.||

[forest pewter]

Yes

[fathom bison]

||If you dont have it, go find it.||

[mossy stream]

k thanks

[forest pewter]

It's really not that hard if u are ||spell spammer|| like me

Wait I wana ask is it spoiler if I mark an unexplored area on someone's map???

[remote jacinth]

They might not know if you can go there or not

I guess

[forest pewter]

No I mean if it's plain visible on their map

[mortal bronze]

Thank you, I have forgor about ||those sparks area where the dash is required||

[forest pewter]

So U found the new area ?

[void wave]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[cold surge]

noooo

[remote jacinth]

Maybe because they can lead to other "how do I get past this" but idk

[void wave]

|| markoth||

[mortal bronze]

Yeah but there was ||just some iteam||. I didn't really help me to proceed further

[forest pewter]

Oh okay I just won't tell them then

Thanks for telling

[forest pewter]

Didnt you already beat them?

[remote jacinth]

Sure some people dont care about spoilers but

[cold surge]

i killed one and died to the other

[remote jacinth]

Just go to hk disc at that point

[cold surge]

in ||pantheon of the masters||

what does the ||nail| binding|| do

[forest pewter]

40% damage reduction

[remote jacinth]

It makes it way more fun

[cold surge]

oh

lol so you just become useless with all of them

[remote jacinth]

Have you seen the room next to ||hall of gods||?

[cold surge]

yeah ik

im not doing that any time soon

[forest pewter]

Yes but they give custom look after you beat them all at once

[remote jacinth]

Did you know that if you beat ||an all binding pantheon the bindings turn glowy||

[cold surge]

omg no way

[forest pewter]

U didn't had to spoil the colour man

[cold surge]

lol

[remote jacinth]

I didnt he has to find out himself

[cold surge]

oh yeah

u only said its glowy not what color

[forest pewter]

Fair enough I gusse

[tawny sapphire]

||glowy is worth the effort for sure||

[cold surge]

defienetly

[tawny sapphire]

defiently

[forest pewter]

Even for the ||last one || ?

[tawny sapphire]

yuh uh

[forest pewter]

Honestly last one with all once seems totall bullshit to me
I can't even beat it no binding

[tawny sapphire]

skill issue imo

(most helpers here haven't)

[cold surge]

i hate bosses that the fight just takes long

[tawny sapphire]

they suck I agree

[cold surge]

like ||vengeful king|| or whatever its called

like the boss isnt hard but then you become impatinet and attack stupidly

[sacred flower]

i just got evaporated by ||pure vessel|| for my first time fighting him

[forest pewter]

Use spells it makes it so much faster

[cold surge]

but you cant hit them alot so not much ||spells||

[forest pewter]

Honestly if u just use 3 vengefull spirit he won't have much health left

[cold surge]

still

theyre annoying

[old inlet]

With them I usually just use ||nail arts|| to get by

||Dash slash|| is great

[forest pewter]

The guy was only boss I could consistently beat but demolished me when I got to ||pantheon 4 ||

[cold surge]

yeah ill try that

[sacred flower]

i died in 20 seconds

[old inlet]

Just be careful with it and you’ll probably be fine-

[mortal bronze]

||How to fight with gigantic medusas? How to dodge this nuclear missile???||

[forest pewter]

That's not so fair I play mobile it cant jump and use nail arts effectively

[old inlet]

||Vengefly|| isn’t terribly difficult, you just gotta be patient

[forest pewter]

That's the thing ||u dont ||

[tawny sapphire]

???

[cold surge]

exactly but it takes too long and i get impatient

[mortal bronze]

||And what to do if I can't get pass them?||

[cold surge]

||giant jelly fish?||

[old inlet]

Patience is the name of the game sometimes

[mortal bronze]

Yes

[forest pewter]

Kill the small ones
And ignore the giagntic ones

[cold surge]

where is there a giant jelly fish lol

[forest pewter]

I never kill them when I go to fog canyon

[cold surge]

i think hes talking about a boss

are you

[forest pewter]

Hes in early game he can't reach the boss

The boss is mid game

[cold surge]

yeah idk what boss hes talking about thats the thing

if he is talking about a boss

ohh yeah nuclear missile

just dont attack them or hit them then run instantly

[forest pewter]

He means ||umo explosion||

[old inlet]

I ❤️ nuclear missiles

[forest pewter]

Or whatever it's called

[old inlet]

But yeah this is good advice

[cold surge]

yes

[forest pewter]

@old inlet any tips for finishing ||hornet 2||when I am low on health ?

[tawny sapphire]

hitless smh

[tawny sapphire]

tags

[tawny sapphire]

tags

[old inlet]

||Uhhhhh, when it comes to sentinel, you really wanna play your life; don’t take risks. If you see her stringing spike balls in the air, make sure your immediate area is clear, and focus on dodging and taking hits when it’s safe to. Past that, use dive to give I-frames and deal damage to knock her out of your range||

That’s what I usually do

My playstyle is hyper aggressive, so I usually just stay in their face and kill them before they kill me

[forest pewter]

Yeah I am dommed if this is the best advice I know

[forest pewter]

||I also play agressively but can't do the same when I just survived at 1 mask from sly||

[cold surge]

||i think dont worry about the spike balls in the corner but clear the middle||

thats what i did

[old inlet]

There’s totally more than one valid way to go about it fs

But this is a game where you gotta try over and over till ya get it

[cold surge]

i just hope they die quick

[old inlet]

Good save LOL (good luck btw)

[cold surge]

lol

||wtf why does he start flying||

[tawny sapphire]

who?

[forest pewter]

I just ||spam d dark ||
It melts thier hp like crazy

[cold surge]

one of the ||nail masters||

[old inlet]

||DD is totally a lifesaver, the amount of times they try to squish you in is crazy||

[cold surge]

anyways again i killed one but died

[tawny sapphire]

||That's just Cyclone slash smh||

[cold surge]

why cant i do that

[tawny sapphire]

||HoG exists for practice smh||

[cold surge]

unfair tbh

[tawny sapphire]

uh you can iirc

[cold surge]

||hog?||

[cold surge]

what

[tawny sapphire]

||Hall of Gods||

[forest pewter]

I think he meant by flying like he does

[old inlet]

something I could never figure out is ||how to use cyclone properly|| now that I think about it

[cold surge]

i never really used ||nail arts|| theyre so hard to do while doding

[tawny sapphire]

||Charge a nail art, hold up and release, Jump and spam nail before the thing ends||

[cold surge]

dodging

[tawny sapphire]

||or you can jump before releasing as well||

[old inlet]

Can’t argue with that, but I use ||nailmaster’s glory|| to make it at least a little easier

[forest pewter]

||Great slash|| is the best you should use it

[cold surge]

il ltry that

[old inlet]

||I think objectively dash slash and great slash are the best for sure||

[bright sorrel]

theyre also bad 😹

[cold surge]

do ||nail arts|| actually deal more damage or just range

[tawny sapphire]

they do

[forest pewter]

Yes they more damage

[tawny sapphire]

||2.5x nail damage||

[forest pewter]

Alot of damage

[old inlet]

I believe it’s ||one and a half nail hits worth of damage||

[tawny sapphire]

which is ||53 at max nail||

[forest pewter]

Pretty sure ||cyclon dash is like 7.5 or something ||

[old inlet]

Apparently not, it’s more than that

[tawny sapphire]

[cold surge]

not worth

[cold surge]

oh

[forest pewter]

It's worth it against bosses that only give you once chance to hit per attack

[old inlet]

Yeah don’t mind that one I was just totally off-

[cold surge]

like ||staggers?||

[tawny sapphire]

[old inlet]

[forest pewter]

No|| dream warriors like gorb ||

[sacred flower]

isn't it ||2.5x||

[cold surge]

oh

[old inlet]

This. ||Gorb gets destroyed by great slash in-between attacks||

[bright sorrel]

yes generally you shouldnt use ||nail arts|| outside of a few niche situations. theyre too mid 😹

[cold surge]

which one is ||gorb|| i dont remember

[tawny sapphire]

||Great Slash and Dash Slash: 2.5x nail damage = 53
Cyclone = 1.25 x nail damage x 6 hits = 158
for reference
Abyss Shriek deals 80 damage by default and 120 with Shaman Stone||

[forest pewter]

The one that throws tooth pick at u

[sacred flower]

tags?

[sand stump]

||chat anyone got like a guide or anything for steel soul that like outlines what i should do||

[cold surge]

oh

[sacred flower]

don't die

I don't recommend it

[sand stump]

doesht answer my question at all

[cold surge]

oh wtf

[sacred flower]

it's something you must know about ||ss||

[sand stump]

yeah it kinda tells me that already

[forest pewter]

I don't think this need tag

[bright sorrel]

not the channel for that. this isnt the first time youve been told this either

[sacred flower]

hence the ?

[cold surge]

i just spam ||shriek|| against him

[sacred flower]

oops

[old inlet]

Yeah I gotchu. ||Dont go risky. Go extremely safe. And take it in blocks at a time; focus on getting one thing done at a time, like going for dash first and then figure out a route that fits that the safest way. Little goals like that help you lower down your focused route and makes you take it the safest way. That’s how it worked for me, at least- everyone has their own way of doing it||

[sand stump]

ok

[forest pewter]

Wait I totally forgot I can do it 😭
Thanks for telling

[old inlet]

Hope that helps ya out

[tawny sapphire]

||rush upgrades asap, learn the map, using map sucks, practice harder areas in another save before attempting them in steel soul, don't attempt stuff with low gear, before progressing make sure to grab every upgrade/ability you can and uh don't die and git gud ig||

[old inlet]

This too ^

[mortal bronze]

||How to get past the dark beam barrier? I wanna get the map from a mapper((||

[forest pewter]

U can't lol

Keep navigating the area

[bright sorrel]

generally ||fragile charms are pretty good due to the nature of steel soul. u should also prioritize spell upgrades since theyre pretty simple to get ||

[cold surge]

you cant yet

[wraith talon]

Beside ||Colosseum 2|| what is the best way to grind ||geo||

[tawny sapphire]

||Hoppers||

[wraith talon]

OH HELL NAH

THEY BE SCARY

[tawny sapphire]

imo skill issue et get good

[forest pewter]

He's talking about the small ones

[wraith talon]

Ohhh

[bright sorrel]

this method gives almost double the amount of geo per minute

[wraith talon]

Where tho

[cold surge]

bro wtf

[sacred flower]

yes

[bright sorrel]

[cold surge]

it did the opposite

[tawny sapphire]

bro forgor the tags

[cold surge]

bro i spoilerd everything other than ||pantheon||

[wraith talon]

which room

[tawny sapphire]

any

[smoky arch]

Are yall rly censoring geo

[sacred flower]

fun fact : ||if you save and quit you will go back to your latest save point, doing it at low hp is a game saver in steel soul||

[wraith talon]

||Great hoppers|| or ||little hoppers||

[tawny sapphire]

little

[sacred flower]

small i think

[bright sorrel]

read the chat 😹

[jade sedge]

No thats one of the few words that doesnt need tags. Read pins for a list of what does and what doesnt need tags

[forest pewter]

@wraith talon I just remebrred ||selling relics is also good way to get geo ||

[wintry verge]

||alright, he is defeated, I'm only less than 100 essence away. I wanted to fight the lost kin, but it's just so hard, what other boss you recommend?||

[sacred flower]

limited tho

[sacred flower]

which ones have you done

[cold surge]

nicee

[forest pewter]

Use ||defender's crest the ballons will instantly die when they get near you and fight becomes a joke ||

[sacred flower]

correct

[wintry verge]

Like all of them, at least most

[bright sorrel]

make sure they have the stuff ur suggesting

[cold surge]

ggg

[forest pewter]

Congratulations on beating first one

[sacred flower]

which ones are you missing

[cold surge]

so i need 2 more ||pantheons|| now

[forest pewter]

||No exactly there are more than 3 ||

[cold surge]

yes theres 4

[wintry verge]

Tbh it's mostly my skill issue ||but one of his attack that jumps on you is just so annoying ||

[cold surge]

and i already beat 2

[wintry verge]

Idk

[jade sedge]

Sure

[cold surge]

what

are there not 4

[forest pewter]

Yeah it's anyoing but honetsly just play|| super offensively and you spam d dark ||

[forest pewter]

There is one more but it's not needed

[wintry verge]

Where soul

[jade sedge]

||Yeah thats what you see from the amount of gates||

[forest pewter]

||Just spam attack at him and ignoring everything else once u get a good opportunity use d dark ||

[cold surge]

||i see 3 gates but 4 on the god turner||

[bright sorrel]

again you need to make sure ppl have things before recommending it

[cold surge]

on ||radiant||

[jade sedge]

It must be hidden then

[forest pewter]

O my god I almost forgot some. People skip ||d dark ||

[cold surge]

probably

[forest pewter]

Dude that's not fair even I haven't beaten her
U can't beat her before me

[cold surge]

yeah im better...

[forest pewter]

[sand stump]

||yooo i just brooding mawlek without dash or a spell idk how ||

[cold surge]

wow

[jade sedge]

Why would you try something like that on ||steel soul||

[forest pewter]

Damm I don't think even I can do thatb

[cold surge]

lol

[jade sedge]

Youre on ||steel soul right?||

[sand stump]

yh

[forest pewter]

He's a masochist so it doesn't matter

[sand stump]

idk

[cold surge]

i love ||mantis lords|| fight so much

its actually fun

[forest pewter]

||U should try dream nailing statue of false knight || fr fr

[cold surge]

yeah i tried and got folded instantly

[wraith talon]

||Pale Court?||

[forest pewter]

No it's main game

[sand stump]

they mean ||failed champ||

[forest pewter]

Yes

[wraith talon]

kk

[cold surge]

i wonder if i can ||radiant mantis lords||

[forest pewter]

Go for it it's pretty easy

[sand stump]

what stuff should i get while im in ||crossroads?||

[forest pewter]

||First mask || before leaving the place

[cold surge]

why is there 2 lights

[sand stump]

how

[sand stump]

hahahaha youll find out later

[forest pewter]

Because of spoilers

[cold surge]

ok

[bright sorrel]

that is incredibly unnecessary and a waste of time

[sand stump]

then what should i get before leaving

[bright sorrel]

just ||fireball||

[dawn sphinx]

||vengeful spirit||

[sand stump]

really? ||i was told to over prepare alot since im in steel soul||

[forest pewter]

||If u really wana overprepare buy two mask shard sly
One from grub dad
And u alredy had one from malwek ||

[bright sorrel]

maybe later. u cant rly get a lot now tho

[forest pewter]

@bright sorrel ||is lifeblood room worth unlocking before p5? ||

[tawny sapphire]

ig

not necessary though

[bright sorrel]

🐊u dont need to ping me u can just post the question in chat

[tawny sapphire]

[cold surge]

is there anything good in there im scared of|| bindings||

[forest pewter]

Yes 100%

More than worth it

[bright sorrel]

then why are u asking

[sand stump]

||how do i kill big baldur guy again i forgot 💀 ||

[tawny sapphire]

||you get like 3 lifeblood at every bench if you unlock the door which is 8 bindings, 4 if you do 12 and 5 if you complete 16 bindings||

[bright sorrel]

with ||spells||

[tawny sapphire]

||vs||

[sand stump]

ok

[forest pewter]

|| I am making him have high hopes soo I can see his fustration when he finds the reward ||

[cold surge]

worth

[forest pewter]

Nvm my plan got ruined

[cold surge]

is it not

[forest pewter]

||It is fully worth it of u wana fully complete God master dlc but if u just want 112% it's waste of time ||

[cold surge]

oh

[forest pewter]

Oh cmom why did that happen

[cold surge]

lol

[remote jacinth]

Might as well do ||all pantheons all bindings||

[forest pewter]

||How many binding you got?||

[remote jacinth]

Idk like 16

I ignored them mostly and went straight for ||radhog||

[molten apex]

Where do I get the first ||nail upgrade||?

[forest pewter]

Where are you In game

[molten apex]

||Just beat Hornet for the first encounter||

It’s been a few years since I’ve played

Dropped the game declared it mid. Then I played the Castlevania then tried again and I think the game is fucking legendary

[bright sorrel]

its a bit later in the game

[molten apex]

I dropped it right about mid way through

[bright sorrel]

shouldnt rly worry abt that upgrade rn

[bright sorrel]

it is mid

[molten apex]

I’m sorry I don’t want to be rude, but I’d like a bit more precise answer if you don’t mind. If you don’t want to send it in here you can always dm it to me.

[molten apex]

Compared to Nine Sols it is

[bright sorrel]

its in the ||city of tears|| area

[molten apex]

OMG I HATE THAT PLACE

Ugh alright 😭

[karmic valve]

i hate || hornet 2 || 😭

[molten apex]

In that area every enemy is a RSO

[jade sedge]

Do you want help with it?

[karmic valve]

she spawns ||traps but by the time you take them out shes already spawned more ||

[karmic valve]

would be great im in vc

[bright sorrel]

no shot otso joins vc

[karmic valve]

😞

[molten apex]

I remember struggling with ||Hornet #1|| and then replaying and then sadly finding it easy as hell after beating Circle of the Moon

[karmic valve]

like im js trying to get || shade dash || come on

[jade sedge]

Yeah i dont help in vcs

[karmic valve]

ah alr

well any help is great

[bright sorrel]

try to use ||spells to remove multiple of them at once. or stay on one half of the arena and remove the spikes that appear only on that side. theres a limit of 6, so if u can get her to spawn 6 on the side of the arena u arent on, u essentially nullify that attack||

[karmic valve]

ty

been using the || spirit upgrade thing|| for that rn

[bright sorrel]

thats generally what u wanna do yes

[cold surge]

im so glad theres a checkpoint after ||grimm|| on ||pantheon of sage||

[forest pewter]

||Spam. Spells easy win||

[karmic valve]

|| hornet 2 feels so unfair man ||

like she WALKED UP TO ME and as a jumped over her she did her ||AOE attack||

literally ||not dodgable||

[forest pewter]

Lol ||just use nail till she stagers and once she starts adding spikes I juts spam desolate dive and she's gone ||

[remote jacinth]

That phrase feels so nostalgic

[bright sorrel]

remember to use spoilers

[forest pewter]

||If u have dificulty fighting grim u should practice him more cuz in my opinion he's probably easiest boss in pantheon of the sage ||

[warped dawn]

|| can u reach the hive with no tram pass ?||

[forest pewter]

[forest pewter]

Nope

[hoary forge]

||Just quip quick slash, steady body, unbreakable strength and spam nail attacks, tanking every hit and when she staggers heal||

[warped dawn]

thanks

[forest pewter]

That place is shit hole why would wana go there before getting every upgrade in the game

[warped dawn]

because i just abt have …

[karmic valve]

i dont have ||enough notches for that||

[hoary forge]

How many you have?

[karmic valve]

neither do i have || any of those charms ||

[karmic valve]

only 4 😭

[forest pewter]

Lol

[bright sorrel]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[hoary forge]

That's sad lol

[karmic valve]

idk where to get the other ones 😭

[forest pewter]

I had 7 when I reached that boss or something

[karmic valve]

HOW

[hoary forge]

You should not be fighting ||Hornet 2|| with only 4 ||charm notches||

[forest pewter]

Buy them

||In crossroads||

[karmic valve]

you can do that????

[forest pewter]

Yes I agree

[karmic valve]

right gonna farm some moolah

[hoary forge]

Yeah go to ||Salubra||

[forest pewter]

I don't think he knows her

[bright sorrel]

remember to use spoilers

[wintry verge]

||alright, I'm at white palace now, WHO DESIGNED THIS MAP??????||

[karmic valve]

|| the charms girl in crossroads?||

[hoary forge]

Yup that's the one

[forest pewter]

I did

[karmic valve]

how much am i gonna need?

[hoary forge]

He knows

[forest pewter]

They are quite cheap

[karmic valve]

im assuming im gonna need thousands for those and the ||charms|| themselves

[hoary forge]

But there are prerequisite to get them

[forest pewter]

@wintry verge hope u have fun at the area

[forest pewter]

Nah they are not that bad

[wintry verge]

All for the king...

[hoary forge]

Just go and visit her once you will know

[forest pewter]

||Also whenever u see those people use dream nail on them for infinite soul ||

[sacred flower]

how do i practice ||pure vessel|| (major spoiler) more efficiently

[sand stump]

||is it worth to grab thorns of agony in greenpath? its a free % but i wanna know||

[wintry verge]

||ah so i don't have to kill them||

[forest pewter]

Play more defensively

[sacred flower]

thx

[forest pewter]

||No it's not but it gives free% so kinda yes||

[karmic valve]

i hate the || kamikaze things|| like why do you need to do ||double||

[sacred flower]

his ||throwing nail attack|| gives me trouble

[karmic valve]

now i need to trek all the way back 😭

[forest pewter]

What enemy is dat

[forest pewter]

||Every time pure vessel teleport slightly jump back and the try to react to his attack don't jump too high or too short either||

[sacred flower]

TAGS

thanks though

[forest pewter]

Thankfully no one saw

[sand stump]

i did

[forest pewter]

U alreadybeat the game it doesn't matter

[sand stump]

still dont know what that even is

[forest pewter]

Know what???

[sand stump]

||pure vessel||

what even is it

[karmic valve]

UGH i forgot ab || infected crossroads||

[forest pewter]

:laff:

[sand stump]

||anywhere i can find a geo total for buying all of salubras charms? and like the first 2 notches||

[forest pewter]

Forget it
It doesn't matter

[sand stump]

hm i dont believe you but ok

[simple island]

The wiki has a section for shops

[forest pewter]

||I think u need 10 charns and 1000 geo fir it ||

[sacred flower]

it matters but it's not fun to get spoiled, try doing what you haven't done yet

[simple island]

The last one afaik is ||25 charms and 1400 geo||

[sand stump]

i only have like 4 things left to do snd im procrasinating them because im lazy

[sacred flower]

which ones are they

[sand stump]

||flower quest last soul vessel life blood core snd uh pantheon 3 and 4 and some other stuff idk yet i think colo 3 aswell||

[bright sorrel]

||dash through it||

[sacred flower]

fair

[forest pewter]

Bro got all the anoying quest left

[hoary forge]

Hey so I got all the ||charms|| except these 2, how can I get these last 2?

[karmic valve]

bro ||unbreakable strength|| is so hard to get tho 😭

[sacred flower]

try finishing them and you'll find kt

[karmic valve]

i need to find ||quick slash || rn

[forest pewter]

||Howling cliff + grubs ||

[sacred flower]

first one is ||every grub,|| I don't remember the second one

[hoary forge]

||Fragile strength|| also works though

[forest pewter]

||The second one is in howling cliffs||

[karmic valve]

its ||fragile|| tho

[sacred flower]

where exactly?

[karmic valve]

i will take more than 1 attemopt

[forest pewter]

||The one room behind cornifer||

[sacred flower]

thanks

i have it why am i sayjng thanks

[hoary forge]

Oh sorry I meant the other one next to that one

Where is that?

[sacred flower]

which one

[molten apex]

What exactly does the ||lifeblood heart|| charm do I’m a little bit confused by the description given in game

[elfin birch]

What charms should I use for ||Abs Rad||?

[hoary forge]

Third row last one

[sacred flower]

||shaman is a must have||

[sacred flower]

||door in the abyss, must have at least 14 lifeblood masks||

[elfin birch]

the thing is im doing ||Radiant||

[hoary forge]

Maybe you can get some ||Nail Upgrades|| in that case

[elfin birch]

so im going safe

[sacred flower]

ouch, I'm not sure then. sorry

[elfin birch]

k

[bright sorrel]

that doesnt rly change the charms u should use

[elfin birch]

but it does

[karmic valve]

idk where the next ||pale ore|| is haha

[sand stump]

||carefree melody||

[sacred flower]

which ones do you have

[karmic valve]

i already have ||channeled nail||

[bright sorrel]

||spells|| needs spoilers, and at that point ur wasting all of your soul, making the fight significantly harder

[sacred flower]

have you beaten ||boss in deepnest||

[hoary forge]

||Oh so I need to hunt for those blue thingies and get there with 14 of those healths?||

[elfin birch]

ik thats bad but i think ||only dive is useful||

[karmic valve]

not even gone to ||deepnest|| yet i dont think

[sacred flower]

||use other lifeblood charms, they'll help||

[bright sorrel]

all of them are good

[sacred flower]

there is one there

[hoary forge]

Oh ok thx got it

[sacred flower]

especially ||shriek|| i think

[sacred flower]

you're welcome

[hoary forge]

I think there is one at top of ||crystal peak|| and one in ||colosseum||

[sacred flower]

i doubt they have ||colo|| unlocked

[karmic valve]

i have the ||crystal peak|| one and idk where ||colloseum|| is

[sacred flower]

||colo is in an area you might've not been to yet||

[karmic valve]

whats it called? im not insanely fussed about name spoilers

[hoary forge]

They were fighting || hornet 2|| so I thought maybe

[bright sorrel]

make sure ppl have been to the areas ur talking abt

[sacred flower]

||Kingdom's edge||

[karmic valve]

been there :)

[hoary forge]

Yep sorry!

[karmic valve]

gonna find it now

[sacred flower]

oh okay! explore and you'll find it I'm sure

what's the average time for ||112%||

[hoary forge]

Yeah you should explore lot more, since you are definitely lot weaker to face ||hornet 2|| I think

[hoary forge]

Same question but for ||100%||?

[neat karma]

There isnt one

[sacred flower]

I'd say 33 hours

[neat karma]

It WILDLY varies from person to person

[sacred flower]

mine is probably too late

[neat karma]

Ive seen people do it in 5 hours, and some others in 150

[sacred flower]

i have 106 hours and I'm missing ||pantheon 4||

[hoary forge]

Lol I am at 55 hours with ||97%||

[neat karma]

So you arent late nor early

[mossy stream]

|| where to cut the rope in the watcher knights`s room killing one of them?||

[neat karma]

Its just how this game does

[sacred flower]

||breakable roof||

[neat karma]

||Between the elevator and the arena, break the roof||

[mossy stream]

thanks

[sacred flower]

no worries

[mossy stream]

my first run was 30h total time

2nd run im looking at 15h max

[hoary forge]

Nice!

[sacred flower]

2nd run of mine was 3h 30m

[mossy stream]

btw it depends on ur || style of playing||

if u wanna get || everything|| or just ||minimal||

[mossy stream]

u did minimal items right?

[hoary forge]

This was my first game in years and I had no experience in platforming and metroidvania games so I am pretty happy with my progress

[sacred flower]

I didn't even get ||wings||

[mossy stream]

lmao

[sacred flower]

same

[mossy stream]

||same||

[bright sorrel]

ismoil

[hoary forge]

I guess then I am indeed little slow lol

[tawny sapphire]

long...

[mossy stream]

its okay take ur time

[tawny sapphire]

it tooke me exactly 90hrs to do ||Steel Soul 112% + all pantheons + RadHoG||

[mossy stream]

this game is really long

[tawny sapphire]

not enough to distract me from silksong wait

[hoary forge]

Yeah and still not boring one bit to me

[remote jacinth]

I kinda want to but kinda dont want to do ||radhog again in ss||

[tawny sapphire]

I never did ||RadHoG|| in a ||classic save||

[remote jacinth]

Fair enough

But you did do ||modded radhog||

[harsh vapor]

Quick question! (Idk where else to ask this, apologies)
Custom Knight Dumped the text for the title screen and the Achievements. While it does Swap something like the names of the game modes (I had fun with this one), it does not swap whatsoever the main title or the achievement name/description despite being in the correct folder.

Can it be swapped or am I going on a wild goose chase?

[remote jacinth]

If its a mod maybe go to mod discussion
Spoilers too btw

[tawny sapphire]

||how was it modded smh||

[remote jacinth]

No I meant previously

[tawny sapphire]

no lol

I only did certain bosses on ||Rad||

[remote jacinth]

Didnt you do ||radhog with modded bosses|| or am I tweaking

[tawny sapphire]

I didn't do ||RadHoG with modded bosses, I did certain modded bosses radiant||

different things ykyk

[remote jacinth]

Oh ok

I recall someone stating the previous when you joined

[tawny sapphire]

you weren't even here when I joined

[remote jacinth]

*rejoined then

[tawny sapphire]

yeah

[pallid sparrow]

||How can i get the embrace the void ending? (The one where there's the cutscene where u fight hornet)||

[crystal tide]

please spoiler tags!

[bright sorrel]

[pallid sparrow]

oh shoot

[crystal tide]

||text||

edit that msg you can do it

[pallid sparrow]

Done

[crystal tide]

Good ❤️

[tawny sapphire]

that doesn't exist smh

[wintry verge]

||WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME WHITE PALACE IS A PARKOUR HELL?!??!?!?!?!?!?!||

||White palace? Nah more like white pain||

[cold surge]

||does anyone know what does void heart actually do||?

[cold surge]

lol

[wintry verge]

Also

[wintry verge]

If i leave and come back||via those yellow things|| will my progress be saved?

[cold surge]

i dont think so

[wintry verge]

Well that's a shame

[cold surge]

just do it in 1 go

[wintry verge]

I need something to get

[cold surge]

take breaks if needed

oh

[wintry verge]

||the the hivepack||

[cold surge]

ohhhh

[sonic elbow]

who's the dude ||shouting at me in royal waterways||

[cold surge]

yeah its really good on it

[sonic elbow]

should i be scared

[cold surge]

nah go to hm

[wintry verge]

I'm kinda scared to leave

[cold surge]

you dont need it just take your time

[wintry verge]

I'm probably stuck there for some time

[cold surge]

if you really wanna go back you can but you will have to redo it i think

maybe not idk

[sonic elbow]

phew he's rough

i like his cheery attitude tho

[cold surge]

yes

[sonic elbow]

||quick focus|| is a godsend

[cold surge]

in some bosses it really is

[sonic elbow]

all the dialogue in the game sounds like japanese

[bright sorrel]

[cold surge]

lol

ponder coffee

[sonic elbow]

that was really easy

[cold surge]

yeah its a fun fight

[sonic elbow]

||defender's crest|| eh

[cold surge]

mid

does anyone know where the other ||pantheons|| are? im tired of the ||sage|| one

or do i need to beat those 3 first

[bright sorrel]

u have to finish the first 3

[cold surge]

that sucks

||god tamer|| is so annoying

[simple island]

Which boss are you struggling with ?

[cold surge]

||god tamer||

i think thats the name

the one from ||colo3||

[sonic elbow]

what's up with these?

[cold surge]

show your inventory

please

[cold surge]

you cant do anything with them yet

[sonic elbow]

but they are a thing eh

[cold surge]

lol

[sonic elbow]

ok im gonna leave that one unspoiled then

[cold surge]

wdym?

[sonic elbow]

im gonna leave it a mystery lol

[cold surge]

yeah

you will find out soon pretty sure

[young eagle]

Sry I said smt that would have spoiled too much that’s y I deleted it

[cold surge]

just make sure to explore everywhere u can

[sonic elbow]

i didn't read it no worries

[fathom bison]

What the guy with the cute dog pfp said. Explore as much as you can.

[cold surge]

yep

[sonic elbow]

this looks sketch lol

this is ||AB|| right?

[cold surge]

||ab?||

[sonic elbow]

||ancient basin||

[cold surge]

hey is this good for ||pantheon||

[sonic elbow]

(looks like Alien)

[cold surge]

pretty sure it is

[fathom bison]

Try ||Spell Twister|| instead of ||Soul Catcher|| and you've got yourself a standard combat build

[void wave]

||show all ur charms||

[cold surge]

i have all

[cold surge]

ill try thanks

[void wave]

Yea then what mlgbowser said

[desert pawn]

||soul catcher is very mid, would choose something else like spell twister or some thing like that||

[simple island]

||Soul catcher and spell twister are more comparable than people think
But yeah the first 3 charms are very good, the last two notches are really up to you, I like heart, grubsong nail master glory, steadybody and dreamwielder can be used…||

[cold surge]

ok!!

[sonic elbow]

is ||broken vessel|| hard

[cold surge]

its difficult but i believe you can do it

[sonic elbow]

🦾

[cold surge]

yes

[cold surge]

only problem with ||spell twister is i dont know when i can actually use spells or not when the soul thing isnt white||

[fathom bison]

||.....You can find him at Blue Lake.||

[crystal tide]

please spoiler tags...

[crystal tide]

I think that yeah

[lofty flicker]

damn, sorry

[cold surge]

i hate ||gpz|| so muchh

[crystal tide]

||text||

just edit your msg

[lofty flicker]

||where is the blue lake? in a deep nest?||

[crystal tide]

it's okay

[remote jacinth]

No, its to the ||bottom right of crossroads||

[crystal tide]

can you show me your ||map?|| @lofty flicker

[cold surge]

||i can imagine the pantheons after this one is one is already really bad||

spoiler this

[crystal tide]

😭😭

i deleted your msg, photos have to be tagged as well

anyway

it seems like you opened everything

[lofty flicker]

wth

[remote jacinth]

Wait wtf its katk?

I didnt recognize you

[lofty flicker]

how is this a spoiler?

[cold surge]

its not her map

[crystal tide]

check pins or this @lofty flicker

oh shoot i pinged simo lmao

[cold surge]

lol

[crystal tide]

it seems like you don't care about spoiler but anyway you cann acess it from ||resting grounds||

[lofty flicker]

bro just tell me the name of the location then ok?

[crystal tide]

if you have that area unlocked

[crystal tide]

Sure, there.

[sonic elbow]

if i die to ||broken vessel|| is it gonna make me go through all the ||mawlurks|| again

[cold surge]

depends where your ||bench|| is

[void wave]

||i think you unlock a shortcut on your way to bv?||

[sonic elbow]

my ||bench|| is on the right of the ||crystal heart section||

[cold surge]

does anyone have any tips for ||god tamer|| and ||gpz||

[sonic elbow]

i'm coming right up on ||broken vessel||

[remote jacinth]

||ddark is especially useful there||

[cold surge]

[sonic elbow]

oh. theres the shortcut. got it

[fathom bison]

||In certain fights you can make use of D-Dark's i-frames to either get a shit ton of damage in or live an attack while your shade cloak is cooling down||

[lofty flicker]

bro my whole map is unlocked

just tell me its name

[cold surge]

||resting grounds||

[crystal tide]

||blue lake||

[cold surge]

lol

[crystal tide]

you can access it from ||resting grounds||

[fathom bison]

||Or above Salubra's shop.||

[crystal tide]

yeah

[sonic elbow]

mmn thats gonna take some practice

[cold surge]

good luck!!

[fathom bison]

Like a lot of bosses, ||BV requires patience.||

[cold surge]

thank god i was playing stupid because ithought it was about to end

[cold pine]

|| Grimm !!!|| I love the fight

[lofty flicker]

||is this the resting place of earth?||

[cold surge]

yesss

[cold surge]

why did the resolution die

[cold pine]

||P3|| ?

[cold surge]

idk the numbers but probably

[fathom bison]

||Pantheon of the Sage, yes.||

[cold surge]

yes

[cold pine]

It's|| P3 || yes , have fun

[cold surge]

aw man i hate IFSMEVDOGPTBPGPZ

[fathom bison]

||Be patient with zote. Dont try to predict him, just react.||

[crystal tide]

epic fail

[fathom bison]

My bbad

[crystal tide]

epic edit

it's okay, i'm joking

[cold surge]

hard

[cold pine]

No u can't hate ||the Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful, Grey Prince Zote.||

[cold surge]

hey its unfair hes invincible

[crystal tide]

I ...

[cold pine]

And beautiful

[cold pine]

Who doesn't like him

[crystal tide]

me

[cold surge]

yes he sucks

[cold pine]

Oh , but u like ||grubs ||

[crystal tide]

yeah those are fine

[cold surge]

fuck|| Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful, Grey Prince Zote.||

[cold pine]

Fine ?!

[fathom bison]

||man, fuck zote...||

[cold surge]

whats so bad about ||grubs||

[cold pine]

Nooooooo , ur right

[cold surge]

yep

[fathom bison]

||i dont mind his fight i just wanna punch him in his stupid face||

[cold surge]

i hate his fight

i hope he explodes

[cold pine]

Tbh he's not that hard

[sand stump]

||anything important to grab in fungal? charms etc||

[cold surge]

hmmm

have you changed something about you...

[cold pine]

No

[cold surge]

ok its gone

[fathom bison]

||Fragile charms assuming your doing steel soul||

[cold pine]

U won ?

[cold surge]

no your name said i love ||zote|| lol

[cold pine]

No my said said i have 112% , who love ||zote|| anw

[cold surge]

you apparently?

[cold pine]

Said said ? Weird

[cold surge]

am i schizophrenic

[cold pine]

I actually love ||Grimm||

[cold surge]

i swear it was i love ||zote|| for a second

[cold surge]

||grimm|| the best

[cold pine]

Ik

[sand stump]

||anything important to grab in fungal wastes?||

[cold pine]

@sand stump

[fathom bison]

....i literally just said.

[cold pine]

[sand stump]

i dont see if you dont ping me

[fathom bison]

My bad then

[sand stump]

it just jumbles in everything else to me

[cold pine]

True

[fathom bison]

Anyways yeah i think you can see

Why those would be good

[sand stump]

yeah

[simple island]

The ||charm notch, relics if you want geo, mantis lords give a lot of geo
Not much else
Bretta and the mask shard at the station|| ig

[sand stump]

ima prob grind to get enough for all 3 of em

[cold pine]

||Ur trying to get 112% in ss ? ||

[sand stump]

ill get ||greed first to grind geo for other 2||

yes i am trying to

[cold pine]

Just a guess cuz of ur name

[cold surge]

fuck ||zote|| i hate him so much

[cold pine]

||Uh huh , well good luck , i Lost my ss save Yesterday ||

[cold pine]

Why u saved him ?

[sand stump]

i tried to speedrun too many runs before so im taking this slow and playing properly now

[cold surge]

if i didnt save him would he not be in ||pantheon??||

[sand stump]

nope

[cold pine]

||Me too , i tried to get dash , dive , wings , spirit ..... In less 1hour ||

[cold pine]

Yes

[sand stump]

i did get allat in less than an hour

bit then i got cocky and tried to do ||colo 3||

with only ||ddark and vengeful spirit||

[cold pine]

Bad idea

[cold surge]

WHATT

[cold pine]

Don't save him he won't be there

[cold surge]

can i turn back time to kill him

[cold pine]

Nuh uh

[sand stump]

i didnt save him in my ||ss run rn so i dont hsve to fight him later||

[cold surge]

rigged tbh

[sand stump]

tbf you can save him aslong as you dont do the ||statue he doesnt appear im pretty sure||

[cold pine]

Me too that's what i did ( It happened by chance

[sand stump]

might stream my run in vc so if i need help i can ask in vc lol

[cold pine]

Oh yeah , maybe u'll get some help by others , have fun

[sand stump]

thanks

[cold surge]

i am not excited for ||zote||

finally

[karmic valve]

out of these which charms should i be using for || hornet 2?||

or if there are any others you recommend that arent insanely hard to get do tell

[sonic elbow]

||broken vessel is annoying||

feels like he's just right on top of you no matter what

[desert pawn]

||if you're comfortable with using spells, definitely shaman stone, if you're used to using steady body and can't get rid of it, fine I guess, soul catcher is super mid and if nail is your main attack then long nail might be good||

[cold surge]

wtf is thiss

i have been told to go back to trigger the 100% achievement

[desert pawn]

Wdym

[cold surge]

by melon

or mods

[cold surge]

how does someone fight this

[desert pawn]

I mean you don't HAVE to

[cold surge]

i guess

its sad to think how anything youre struggling with in this game has been speedran and no hit

or something like that

[sonic elbow]

||he does that frigging head shaking attack and it's like 2-3 health off no matter what ||

[desert pawn]

||but that's Radiance, a fight against the literal sun, good luck ||

[cold surge]

🌞 ?

[desert pawn]

Yes

[cold surge]

aw man

is it smart to just spam ||shriek||

[desert pawn]

||shriek is always the answer, you are well educated ||

[cold surge]

ok

this is actually so hard

probably gonna have a million phases as well

[desert pawn]

||How many charms you got?||

[cold surge]

all

[desert pawn]

||shaman+shriek literally shreds through the first phases of Radiance, definitely recommend||

[cold surge]

PHASES?

[desert pawn]

If you get all hits

[cold surge]

bro i was joking wtf

[desert pawn]

||A lot of bosses have phases, most aren't very clear, usually just when they start using new attacks||

[cold surge]

ok ||shriek|| does melt

[desert pawn]

Yep

[cold surge]

is this the same just floating

[desert pawn]

Yeah pretty much

[cold surge]

aaaaaaa

can spam less

its all ||hornets|| fault

[desert pawn]

What happened?

[cold surge]

she made me able to ||dnail the hollow knight||

[desert pawn]

Btw is this your first time fighting the ||hollow knight?||

[cold surge]

no

[desert pawn]

Ok

[cold surge]

im at ||godhome|| btw i just wanted to take a break from ||pantheon 3||

[desert pawn]

Ah

[sonic elbow]

||should i bulk up more before fighting broken vessel... i got 6 health, one nail upgrade, quick focus, long nail...||

i feel like im close but he keeps killing me

[cold surge]

you can

just take breaks between

[violet ocean]

||yeah do get some upgrades||
||also, use shaman stone||
||quick focus is meh since broken vessel staggers a lot, and longnail is a measly +15% range||

[cold pine]

TRUE

[idle tiger]

||get shaman stone in place of quick focus. Keep long nail, use spells often. If you still struggle get some health or nail upgrades ||

[young eagle]

Bruh how do I not get completely bodied by ||radiance||

[violet ocean]

||spam shrieks||

[young eagle]

Ok

Should I just ignore ||healing then||

[bright sorrel]

heal if u have low health

[violet ocean]

nah, there's a lot of healing windows during the fight

[topaz moth]

Use the ||falling spikes phase to get soul||

[sonic elbow]

huh he glitched like this for like 2 minutes

i still died lol

[topaz moth]

||heal during phase change to performs||

[young eagle]

I can’t even get to ||constant spikes falling stage||

[topaz moth]

In that cause you need to just get more accosted to dodging attacks, and you getting hit a lot by

[violet ocean]

i mean, ||4 shaman stone shrieks is more than 50% of the damage you need to get there||

[sonic elbow]

i suck at this game

[topaz moth]

||if you can get to falling spikes phase you can pretty much heal to full of you don’t get hit||

Let me know what attacks you having the most trouble with

[young eagle]

All of them mainly when they ||combine|| I’m getting cournered with no way out on their own thier all easy tho

[topaz moth]

||defending dark is get out of jail frre||

[bright sorrel]

the attacks overlap if you dodge too late, but even then they rly dont.

try to dodge the|| wall attacks asap, if u wait too long another attack can begin||

[topaz moth]

Use it a lot, you can even use it to ||deactivate ground spikes||

[young eagle]

I have that but I’ve never used it in combat

[topaz moth]

Start using it then

[young eagle]

Ok

[lunar oar]

chat i need help with ||soul master ||

[topaz moth]

You get ||immunity|| for a little moment when you use it, during and after

Attacks will bounce right off you

[young eagle]

Is swapping ||quickslash for strength|| prob a good idea too

[lunar oar]

prob

[bright sorrel]

depends how u play but generally no

[lunar oar]

true but

[open harness]

ayo how do I downgrade hk to 1.0?

[bright sorrel]

u cant

theres other versions u can downpatch to but not that one

[open harness]

what is the earliest one=

[young eagle]

And I died to the ||hk||

[open harness]

1.0.2.8?

[lunar oar]

aye ponder can u help me out here with ||soul master||

[bright sorrel]

probably around 1.2 or slightly earlier

[young eagle]

Yeah but it might be good for this boss in particular because you can only really do one atk at a time

[topaz moth]

That always sucks lol

[open harness]

shit I wanted to play 1.0 because there are more glitches and stuff

[bright sorrel]

its the opppsite: ||quickslash is very good for this boss because you can get so many hits in that its dps is better than strength||

[topaz moth]

Not 100% tru, since you’ll be able to get less attacks in without ||qs||

[bright sorrel]

u can ask in #modding-discussion

[bright sorrel]

however it heavily depends on how u play and ur understanding of the fight, so try different things and see what works for u

[lunar oar]

FAM CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT WITH||SOUL MASTER||

[topaz moth]

What attacks do you need help with

[lunar oar]

all of it

[topaz moth]

Or just the whole thing

[lunar oar]

ngl whole thing

[violet ocean]

take it slow.
||during the spinning fireballs attack, go to the middle, you can heal 3 times when they go back across the arena||

[lunar oar]

lol im not that good

[topaz moth]

Being patient is the big thing, focus on dodging attacks and only getting one or two in

[lunar oar]

ngl i got him deflated once only lol

[violet ocean]

||you can get 3 heals in every time he does that attack if you have full soul||

[topaz moth]

Don’t be risky, he attacks frequently, but you’ll learn to dodge them as they’re all telegraphed

[topaz moth]

All you need to do is stand in the center

[violet ocean]

||that's a stagger and is determined by number of hits, which tells you nothing about his hp
(he actually doesn't have much health)||

[topaz moth]

To heal during that attack

[lunar oar]

how much he got?

[violet ocean]

||also, you can get upgrades and just burst him down||

[topaz moth]

Don’t worry about that, stay consistent until he’s dead

[sonic elbow]

does healing count as a spell

[violet ocean]

||total 385||
||base nail does 5, base vengeful spirit does 15||

[topaz moth]

In what way

[sonic elbow]

is it affected by ||spell twister||

[lunar oar]

ngl i have my nail upgraded once and ||ragile stregnth||

[violet ocean]

no

[lunar oar]

but its broken lol

[violet ocean]

||use shaman stone, it'll serve you better for the time being||

[lunar oar]

ok whta charm loadout do u recomend

[violet ocean]

||show charm inventory please||

[bright sorrel]

||staggers|| tell a lot about health

[lunar oar]

cant im on a school comp

[violet ocean]

oh.

[young eagle]

Ok I got to ||platform|| fase at least

[violet ocean]

ehhhhhhhhhhhh

[young eagle]

Like half way done

[lunar oar]

but i can screen share

[violet ocean]

||how many notches do you have?||

[lunar oar]

let me check

[bright sorrel]

its not rly debatable. ||a boss staggers after X hits and you do Y damage. you know exactly how much health a boss has when it staggers||

[lunar oar]

5

[topaz moth]

Nice, ||make sure to heal as much as you can during phase change, I’d recommend only using nail to hit during falling ing swords||

[violet ocean]

||my face when spells and nail arts||

||and number of hits per stagger isn't even consistent due to combo||

[topaz moth]

lol

[bright sorrel]

both contribute to ||staggers||

[lunar oar]

@violet ocean i got 5

[bright sorrel]

nobody ||staggers with combos||

[sonic elbow]

well ||defender's crest instead of wayward map|| seems to help

[violet ocean]

what

[violet ocean]

||shaman stone and spell twister||

[lunar oar]

bet

[violet ocean]

||they all do different amounts of damage||

[bright sorrel]

also u dont need to ping me

[violet ocean]

too bad

[bright sorrel]

just say u cant do maths 😹

[lunar oar]

oh btw i went to ||hallowing cliffs||

[violet ocean]

||mmm yes good luck trying to see which one of ddark's hitboxes hit||

[lunar oar]

no ||dream nail || though

[young eagle]

And I died immediately again

[bright sorrel]

its pretty easy to tell. each has a large sprite but thats pedantic and meaningless

[violet ocean]

still not too helpful

||just accept that staggers don't tell you much about remaining health after a certain point||

[topaz moth]

Imo they don’t tell you too too much, just a nice indicator of how far along the fight now you are

[remote jacinth]

Wait what why does ||shockwave 1|| have direction based damage

[remote jacinth]

||absrad|| is like the one that usually gives a very defined idea (most of the time)

[violet ocean]

||well, radiance/absrad, false knight and failed champion have damage based staggers||

[lunar oar]

u said ||spell twister|| and what else

[violet ocean]

||shaman stone, the one that buffs spell size and damage||

[lunar oar]

alr bet

preshiate it

[violet ocean]

gl

[bright sorrel]

that wasnt the point at all. you claimed ||staggers|| tell nothing about health but thats not true whatsoever. theyre based on hits therefore you can know exactly how much health a boss will have. bringing up pedantic examples is meaningless to the real point. in a fight you dont need to know the exact number of health but you can if you like. the main point is that ||staggers|| are a helpful indicator of how far you got

[lunar oar]

thx man

if u want to watch ima live it

gen 3 k

[violet ocean]

||they tell you nothing definitive||
they can indicate how far you are, sure, that's fair

[lunar oar]

dang it

i didnt die

i can live it

no wories

[violet ocean]

i wonder if is a spoiler?

[remote jacinth]

Just dont give context and its fine

[lunar oar]

ill let u know if i beat him

[violet ocean]

good luck

[lunar oar]

i apricate it

now hush hush chat

ima cook

IM THERE BATTLE TIME BOYS

[young eagle]

How long does the ||platform stage of radiance|| usually last

[lunar oar]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DIED

[bright sorrel]

you moved the goalpost but thats still wrong (and addressed in the message you replied to). if a boss ||staggers|| in 10 hits and you do ||9 damage|| you know pretty well how much health is left. that distinction youre making doesnt matter and was addressed

anyway this isnt rly going anywhere, partly due to your bad faith

[lunar oar]

i got shitted on

[lunar oar]

i got shit on

[violet ocean]

oh no

[violet ocean]

||my point is the amount of damage per hit varies a LOT||

[lunar oar]

THIS IS THE LITTIRALY THE 21ST TIME THIS MONKEY SHITTED ON ME

[young eagle]

And I died to the ||hk|| again I f ing hate this boss

[violet ocean]

focus on dodging

get 1 or two hits when you can

[lunar oar]

I DDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[violet ocean]

||which attacks usually hit you the most?||

[lunar oar]

ngl his|| smash atk|| or the multi fireball jutsu

[violet ocean]

what's that 2nd one?
||anyway for his dive attack just dash sideways then jump||

[lunar oar]

no i mean like i have no clue how ||BUT THIS BOZO DID HIS DIVE ATK TWICE WITHIN A FRACTION OF A SECOND||

[violet ocean]

||he can do fake-outs
just be on your toes for that||

[lunar oar]

NO LIKE HIS BOZO ASS QUITE LITERARY DID IT TWICE

||LIKE FULL OUT DIVE INTO GROUND||

[young eagle]

Tag?

[lunar oar]

wdym

[violet ocean]

||he can do it twice in a row, but there's enough of a gap between them to dodge||

[violet ocean]

spoiler all that stuff