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||void||
The area it's in I mean š
Ah ok
Bro forgor ||queens gardens existed š||
||hes still got like, abyss, white palace, godhome, queens gardens, etc, lots to discover||
||queens garden is the major area i was talking about||

True
||Wp don't show on map||
i did, however, forget about ||white palace||
But it's big af

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||spells are really good against him, also what are ur charms||


Yeah ||broken vessel|| is actually impossible to beat if you're playing a pirated version of the game, team cherry put in a few anti piracy measures like that
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You have to delete the image š
So true dolm
Hello chat
-# I love spreading misinformation
Ahoy 
Hi DM man
heyy
Henlo
Best mod
Not wrong
hi
did you mute him??
This is why we are the best channel, it boosts your numbers
no
Makes you seem like a better mod
Throw getting more than 1k messages outside of hk-disc
Yrue
Me trying to get more than 2k messages outside hkhelp- impossible challenge???
||chat,i just beat the game
,first time||
gg
congrats!!!!
Congrats mate!

Australian moment
I'm pretty sure 99% of my hk messages are here, and that's without counting the messages when the auto delete bot existed (I am very š“)
British moment
I nearly said mate
Real
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omg are u a fellow aussie

Why is 90% of this serveer australian aaa
Idk but y'all should be eeping rn

how make him sleep
You need all 3 ||dreamers||
aw man
||I finally got to the first bench in p3 anything I should know?||
||Death makes you die||
But actually though uhhh
||Narts are good against sly is the main one||
Also don't die to ||zote||
Cutie
can someone give me a vague hint on what to do with the ||white fragment||
||it's just a fragment, you need another||
||is it a left or right||
i know that
||there's something in ancient basin that can be dreamnailed, but nothing happens with the normal dream nail||
||the king?||
hey uncspoilers
how?
||he never asked for a basin thing||
i know about the basin
my guy
||they have shade cloak||
||ok so?||
so how is that a spoiler lmao
it is
but how š
look for ||something emitting essence||
||Because how do you know if they have awoken dnail||
i never mentioned that though
the what
sigh
reset the conversation
||"normal dnail"||
that doesn't necessarily spoil anything...
stop arguing
It does
ok ok ok enough
oh right i know
the thing you need ||800 essence?||
with the ||creepy moth lady||
||well, that plus a thousand more||
||1800š ||
ššš
you can fight the ||dead versions of past bosses|| right
yea
spoiler tag this
that gives a lot of ||essence||
Should I get ||mark of pride || to make my build better for ||watcher knights||
ig
you can switch builds around depending on what ur doing
Yeah I ussally have a completely different build but this works better for me with ||watcher knights||
||You can get it if you want but you have better charms imo. Baldur, longnail and dcrest arent that good so i'd recommend swapping at least some of them to shamans or qs or both||
get rid of ||crest, grubsong, baldur shell||
replace with ||shaman stone, dream wielder||
Yeah I think Iāll get rid of at least ||crest||
you can ||dreamnail the watchers for soul before they wake up||
||I hardly use dream nail so maybe just shaman would be better||
||also i'd replace longnail with spell twister||
Yeah but I can do that withought the charm
||half as much soul, and dream nailing takes a lot longer||
Yes but the boss hasnāt even started yet so why would I waste ||charm notches||
Plus it takes only like 5-10 seconds
To fully fill
||you'd have 1 notch left and dream wielder is the best choice for that||
||no i mean you can dreamnail the watchers during the fight as they wake up||
Yeah I guess but I also really like ||grubsong||
||grubsong + weaversong instead of longnail and dream wielder then||
I think Iāll try ||gtubsong longnail soul catcher and shaman|| if that doesnāt work Iāll add in ||dream wielder||
Ok Iāll try that after this build
Ok I died immediately
it's actually pretty good, since ||grubsong makes weaversong give 3 soul per hit||
this may be a skill issue
learn their attacks perhaps
Oh no itās 100% a skill issue but I usually kill at least two but I only just barely killed one
How the ||fuck|| do i get here
||dive in area where there is instability||
nvm
continue your way left
@violet ocean bruh I beat them first try with that build thx
good job
if you want
Iāll try
gl
Thx
Bruh the ||hollow knight|| just did a second faze atk before entering his second faze
Guys whatās a good ||charm set for p2? Mine is strength,shaman stone,quick slash and spell twister||
||Do i need a complete 164/164 in journal to get the trophy or the actual requiremet is less?||
yea that's fine
Ok ty
No
|| 164 includes a few marks that are not considered mandatory for Hunter's Mark ||
like i am trying to get the platinum mate, how many do i need
|| https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Hunter's_Mark
mentions the ones you don't need, visit the Hunter's journal page to see which ones you do need ||
ty
|| also even if some of those seem like pre infection forgotten crossroads enemies you can still find at least one of them in the outskirts of crossroads ||
I have a total of 155 currently
And 161 seen
@violet ocean I beat him turns out once he starts ||stabbing him self|| the fight gets easy
It's more of a || narrative fight than a challenge intended to be extremely hard yeah ||
Time to go for || te now
||
Should I get all the ||shade spells first||
Get max gear first
This is the general route I use
Max Gear -> ||All DNail quests|| -> ||TE||
Ok so I need ||2 pale oar upgraded vengeful, dive, bunch of masks and one third of a soul fragment plus like half the charms||
Unless thereās ||upgraded wings then I have more to do||
Why would you be able to upgrade ||Wings||
Idk I thought it had smt like ||shade cloak||
Ohh that, yeah thatās something you need to get but thatās for ||Mothwing Cloak not Monarch Wings||
Yeah I already got that
I think thereās an online checklist somewhere right for everything u need
Different things smh and dw about getting it you canāt get ||TE|| without it anyway
Yeah, though I recommend you donāt use it yet
Yeah probably
At least || dive ||
|| dive upgrade is great ||
|| moreso than the rest even tho the rest are still massive upgrades ||
@sudden harness ok so ||that void octopus thingy I am missing that and I beat the game, is there anyway I can get him in the journal||
Yeah, the room where you can the ||entry|| is connected to the place where you got the ||shade cloak||
one that spawns here
Yea but I already have it
That thing? No, that's a collection of ||void tendrils||...not a separate enemy
oh ok lemme go there
what this for?
|| there's a calcified/fossilized one somewhere in the void iirc ||
nah it isnt there
you're a bit undergeared
It's connected, not in the room
ok so there is a secreat area
I wouldn't say it's secret, but it's a transition in the top of the room
missing ||upgraded spells, lvl 4 and 5 nail, a lot of charms||
Ty got the trophy
That's not really necessary
i guess
||Channeled Nail||'s enough for ||Hornet 2||
I would recommend getting more charms though
|| old nail and 5 masks without dash nor wings is enough to beat the entire game but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a great idea to throw yourself against wk without them ||
yeah
|| they were asking for help with Hornet 2 but without any charms to work with the best advice is probably to look around a bit more, there's a few fights that are just a big step up if you arrive at them without a lot of exploring done ||
There's a difference between ||undergeared and overpowered||
I agree with the sentiment of exploring more, but most people go at ||Hornet 2|| with ||channeled nail|| and are fine.
That's why I said to go and get more charms 
I'm not aware of the ||mask count|| but if they're at 5-6 then obv they need more
||spells are important too...||
Yeah || masks is another big thing, with that amount of charms I believe it's probably 6, Sly base stock + crossroads + queen's garden then a spare one somewhere would check out ||
|| but spell upgrades are quite a bit harder to find compared to charms, and shaman stone, mop, quick focus and a few others are all both amazing and not too bad to get ||
How many ||masks|| do you have
||Shaman Stone|| can substitute for ||spells|| pretty well at this point
is it really that hard to get ||ddark and shade soul||
|| shade soul requires a random key that I don't remember where it is and ddark I honestly have never found it since my first playthrough so I wouldn't know ngl ||
||It requires a key which requires a key
||
||all you need for shade soul is shopkeeper's key and then elegant key||
It's not that's it hard, but unless you're really looking for it you won't easily
And we're not ones to decide how a playthrough goes
Indeed
But "go find more stuff this section is quite hard" is also pretty valid at some points in the game
||(wk and Hornet2 can be found way too early for how hard they are at first)||
6
Right on the money
Well Alfhan your prediction was on point
Also alfhan
Yeah...get more
Ye?
Iāve already sold out ||salubres||
And ||sly||, so idk where to get more charms
Great, but spoiler those names
Got it
The rest are pretty much laid around everywhere, || mantis village hides a good one behind its lords, also with shaman you should have a better shot at H2, it gives a pretty hefty spell damage boost ||
Alright
honestly though i'd suggest leave ||hornet 2|| for later
There's also a really good one in ||Kingdom's Edge|| itself
|| if you've sold out Sly he may have told you about something he lost, finding it will also give you a few more things to buy ||
even if you beat it you won't unlock much
Yeah, but hey I did || mantis lords || when I first found them so I understand wanting to best your enemies asap
Yeah idk how to do it
Bro ||Hornet 2|| is like one of the core fights of the game wut
Wanna know the area it's hidden in?
Yeeeee
It's quite out in the open so you should be able to find it
||i mean... it's not even required to beat the game||
|| crystal peak ||
The name of the item is self explanatory
You'll know it is his when you find it
Ooo alright anywhere specific? Or is that spoiler
I mean everything about item placement is spoiler 
You can beat the game with 11% completion...that's not a good way to measure how integral something is 
You won't miss it if you finish the zone
|| in one of the big vertical shafts anyways, on the long way to cdash zone entrance before opening the door ||
"||Crystal peak|| is a good area" -said literally no one
Alright thanks!
Exactly 
Itās peak
Oh yeah I forgot it contains the best boss in the game
I was once planning on writing a whole essay on it
||Crystal guardian?||
YES
I saw him and he killed me when I wanted to go bench and I ran away
Do you need help with him?
Put ||mantis lords|| in hidden text
i mean it's such an easily cheesable boss
Oh right sorry
This is a channel for newer players, generally

doesn't mean you can't cheese ||crystal guardian||
True
Any tips for the ||mantis lords?||
Check || top left of the arena before challenging them, there's a breakable wall ||
||when they do horizontal dash, jump and pogo off them. ||
Oh alr
Cool thanks
You can ||heal when they do their boomerang attack if you stand in the middle|| (it isnāt 100% consistent but itās pretty good)
How isn't it consistent
||Like yes up vs low boomerang, but you can recognize that before they throw||
Both are
Thanks for the ping confirming what I said 
But || when they both throw the middle one it's kinda hard to get the positioning right every time, since it's not exactly the same every time ||
Yw 
There is some hitbox oddities, I think you ||dodge it only if you are healing/ducking when the boomerangs go over you or something ||
big "I think"
No you can dodge it standing still tho
Just a bit more precise and less consistent
What does || steel soul jim || do
|| geo for eggs ||
How much
250-450 iirc
No clue, quite a bit per ||egg||
If ||grim becomes a bunch of bats|| does that mean Iām close to beating him
Not directly
||He does that thrice||
||Staggers are based on hits, not damage done||
That only happens after a certain amount of hits
I believe
The damage doesnāt matter
That's the ||pufferfish ||attack
So Iām a third of the way done
Oh right,|| hits, not damage||
The ||balloon|| phase is more reliable to tell how much is left
Ok
Yeah
I'm just used to|| AB grimm||
Where ||third bat phase means he'll die next hit||
Shit this is help chat
Fixed 
Ngl if I could use my ||two notches|| this fight would be like 10x easier
Part of the challenge 
Yeah, itās really annoying
How many ||notches|| do you have?
What are you talking about?
||Nightmare king grimn||
also steals notches
you have to have ||grimnchild|| equiped
Oh
Bruh my worst atk is the one weāre he ||dashes the goes up then spews red stuff everywhere|| I always get hit by both parts of it
That's not REALLY stealing
||Usually, if you move forward after that attack, you can dodge the fire||
That worked for me
Honestly the first part is worse for me
Like move towards him after he does it
i just ||shade dashed|| through the red stuff
Maybe he doesn't have that
I do
You can stand still the entire time for that it makes it a whole lot stressful
Then it's easy
I can't even beat || p3 ||
I gave up on that one lmao
I tried so many times
I'm still determined
i tried to do every boss in ||ascended|| and that helped a lot
||I feel like it only feels so hard because the previous pantheon is so easy||
every ||pantheon|| feels like that
Yeah but ||p2|| is superrr easy
I just can't beat || gray prince zote ||
||Pro tip donāt save him earlier in the game||
If you donāt, he just doesnāt appear
I did š
is there an attack thats giving you trouble or is it just the whole fight in general
Honestly got no tips other than,
, donāt rush at him too much and ||DDark spam||
The fight is so random and unpredictable
Itās not though? All his attacks have clear telegraphs
^^ ||dive helps a lot||
No šš»
Name one that doesnāt have a clear telegraph
Ok I beat him thx guys
He has better telegraphs than fricking ||Hornet||
Can someone help me I'm lost on what to do I have ||104% complete the only things I need to do is nightmare king Grimm fight Zote trial of fools and pantheons but idk which one to start with||
I also have some of the ||dream bosses I can fight for essence ||
||NKG and Zote are first, then do the Colo and finally all the pantheons||
|| How many essence u have ||
You need ||2400 essence, itās a %||
1800
Ik Im trying to play the game so
Meh it doesn't matter then
It's a trophy
It does?
|| Just get 1 more boss ||
|| U need 1850 for awoken dream nail ||
You need 1800
||1800 for awoken but there is one thing past that for an extra %||
||You need 2400 for a trophy||
||1800 for awoken and then 2400 for all DNail quests which is a %||
Huh what i dont remember
And %
I can fight || white defender and the soul tyrant for 2400 essence||
Should I do that first ?
gl
What charms should I use
remember ||NKG isn't actually hard, he's just slightly faster than other bosses||
which ones do you have?
||he does double damage tho I'm pretty sure||
All of them
yea he does
yeah, he's the kind of boss where you are really in the flow of it or you are being absolutely demolished
I had 30+ attempts alone with the easy one š
they didn't ask for help though 
Thought so
30+ is low af ngl
it took me a couple hours to beat ||nkg|| the first time
now that, you don't wanna do
Yeahhh
it honestly just takes a lot of practice
Trial and error
see ||NKG's attacks are always the same just from different positions, given you have a consistent way to dodge the attacks, which is pretty easy to get down, you can pretty much hitless it in less than 20 attempts||
took me like 13 attempts in my first playthrough smh
you're just built different
Idk about 20 Im kinda buns
yea 20 is extremely low
||I'm 60hrs in on my first playthrough and at 104%||
I struggled for 8hrs on ||Hornet Protector||
that's average
actually no that's pretty fast
should only take 20 attempts smh
Good to know ig because HK is my first hard game ig you could say
Is there any way to change your skin in an Android port of hollow knight
most people have ~75hrs and only 87-96%
I was at like 100+ when i 112% the game

damn same, it's really what got me into hard games
š
same honestly
Yeah after I beat HK I'm gonna play cuphead
Don't think it will be as hard tho
i need to get cuphead
How do iget ||void heart||?
Do you have ||kingsoul||
Wearing ||kingsoul|| opens a birthplace
Did you explore || queen's garden ||
@fervent mirage anyway here's how to dodge each attack of ||NKG||
||
Firebats: Let him spawn the third firebat, then jump over the first one and dash towards him
Dive-Dash: Literally just jump up as high as possible when he dives and when he dashes dash in the opposite direction in the air.
Dash-Uppercut:
Jump and pogo him and then get behind him and when he uppercuts stand where he uppercut
Flame-Pillars: spam one of your directional inputs
Pufferfish: get in one of the corners and focus only on the bottom row of fireballs that are coming towards you and do a short hop over one fireball and high jump over two, he can never spawn three||
||Are these good for nkg||
||QS over MoP smh||
||MoP is a crutch||
||I had it but I removed it for shaman because I couldn't get enough hits in for it to be effective||
that just screams bad dodging tech
That's probably right
the rest are fine but i agree with @tawny sapphire with ||qs over mop||
gl!
Yes do it
|| when he does the uppercut I go where he was but the flame hits there||
||Also idk if I can do it without longnail or mop due to how used to it I am and I don't really have time to pull off a spell so shaman kinda useless||
Also quick question after I beat|| nkg would I still be able to make unbreakable charms because I don't have the unbreakable greed one||
||is godhome needed for 114%||
||Bro I defeated the mantis lords but I think I gotta have that shadow dash to get through š ||
||You donāt for the charm||
Fr?
||I found one of those black barrier things where it was tho||
Itās in an area above the arena
||Also what is the charm||
Aight thanks
Are you sure u wanna know
get it and then youll know
Alright lol
asking something literally 5 seconds before you get it can:
- remove any intended jumpscares/plot twists
- spoil the thing for you, and some people dont get the feeling that they did it themselves
- waste time because you asked and somebody else answered
Alright I see
Thanks!
||I got so jump scared by a flipping copy of me earlier||
best to spoiler tag that
and yeah a LOT of people ask about that and get really spoiled
Oh yea sry
||ddark soloes||
||shade cloak...||
Also you get ||abyss shreik|| One of the best ways to cheese bosses
That with ||shaman stone and spell twister||
||can deal up to 800+ dmg in a burst||
I one-cycled ||grimm||
they don't have ||wraiths|| lmao
yeah that's the one thing they get
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Ya aliii
ok first of all ||there is only 112% without glitches ofc, and second yes it is required for 112%||
||MoP is a crutch||
you need to take it off and git gud with spacing
Ig
||yes you can still make your charms unbreakable afterwards||
Alright thanks
delete this message please
||there is always one flame falling down exactly where he vanished in the air and the others spread outward from there. So stand right next to where he disappears in the air and you should be fine. For the initial dash attack before he jumps there are multiple options. You can pogo like mentioned already but you can also just dash away and are usually already in a good position to dodge the fireballs if you do that||
||to be fair it's pretty useful to get more hits in during some attacks, but yea shaman stone is a better choice||
When he does the uppercut I usually hit him once and dash away
||pogo is always gonna be my personal best way to dodge it, the parry is always satisfying to look at||
uh don't do that, stand next to him
Alright
Another bad habit I need to fix is jumping when the ||thorns come out of the ground||
Idk why I do it but I always get hit when I do
what stuff do you have again?
also tags
Charms you mean?
||charms, items, spells, etc||
that's pretty normal I do it as well it's just I do a short hop and go to where there are no ||spikes||
||I have all the charms max nail every spell dark version etc I have all masks and vessel fragments||
also, that's fine since you have just as much mobility in the air as on the groun
neat
Still it always gets me hit and when I don't do it I don't get hit
you could try ||equipping sharp shadow and just dashing through grimm for uppercut||
That could work
||Im getting the patterns down it's just the uppercut that messes me up and sometimes the spikes||
||for the uppercut you can also jump then ddark||
||that also gives enough iframes to usually ignore the fire||
Alright I'm gonna give it a try
||what's your charm build btw?||
||It's unbreakable strength qs and mop Ik I shouldn't use mop but it's just so much easier for me then other charms because I always use mop||
||not max notches?||
That's fine if it works for you
||I tried shaman and nail masters glory But I always forget to use them||
||I have to have grimmchild equipped||
i forgot that-
||sharp shadow isn't worth the cost||
All good
i keep dying on ||oro and mato trying to do the charmless binding and im literally playing it as safe as i can waiting for them to attack first before i respond and i still keep dying, any tips besides using ddark when they're close together? i also feel like there's literally zero chances to heal when they're both active||
I'll try it to see how I like and if I don't I'll stick to my original build
||they only both attack at the same time if you're in between them. If you aren't then they will alternate and only attack individually so try to avoid standing in between them. If it does happen then ddark/dash to try and get out of there.
For healing it takes practice but you can heal by letting one of the two attack and after dodging the attack starting to heal as quickly as possible.||
||for the uppercut when he dashes towards me I dash away and then I can get a hit off before I jump and it usually works out well||
you could try ||nmg||
you can fairly consistently get in a ||great slash and 1 or 2 slashes each attack||
besides, ||nail arts help stall in the air for his bats, dash, and flame pillar attacks||
Idk because||nail art never works out for me when I try it on any bosses since I don't use it at all I know it's good but doesn't fit me I'll test it out tho ||
||it needs practice just like any other new ability. Try it out a bit and don't just give up if you feel like it's not for you imo
||
you should try to get used to it, they're quite good
damn ||i just practiced in the hall of gods and they really do just take turns doing the jump slashes and let the other rest for a few seconds||
So far my current build is good I can get hits off it's just my dodging for the ||spikes and the fire from uppercut that I need to work on||
yes 
spacing practice š¤·
Yeah I'll give it a try but I have no experience with ||nail art so maybe after this fight I can swap it out for steady body ||
Yep my spacing sucks
Iām lost.
tip: ||great slash has a lingering hitbox, so after grimm's dash you can swing and grimm will get hit as he stands up. Dash slash is long, so you can dash towards grimm and hit him when he shoots bats. Great slash also stalls you in the air which can let you get in a few extra hits or a fireball/shriek during fire pillars||
||For my general build for non bosses I use unbreakable strength mop qs compass and steady body but I can probably use longnail and use nailmaster glory||
Ohh alright
||qs + strength + nmg + sharp shadow/longnail|| would work fine i think
Guys Iām lost in || deepnest ||
happens to everybody š
also spoiler ||deepnest||
Yeah but I'm late game now so it might be too late
Like what I mean is using it against normal enemies
everything fro. the game needs to be spoiler tagged in this channel || like this || so please edit this message
oh that build is for like bosses specifically
||do you have the map for the area?||
Most of the bosses left are hard and if I have no experience I'm not gonna use it because I'm not trying to waste time
Idk it's kinda hard to explain
Yea
|| its just Iām looking for weaversong||
you should practice using ||nail arts|| a bit, since you'll probably end up using them a lot against the harder bosses
||it's in a room that's not on the map. It's behind a devout||
||That's what I mean I wish I added them to my build earlier so when I would be fighting like mini bosses or something I can use nail art and get used to it||
|| how I get there ||
||nkg is great practice||
Alright I'll change my build
||the room is at the end of a tunnel in a big room behind one of the strong enemies||
|| the ones with the fake out masks? ||
yup
||Is this good for nkg?||
But itās spooky
should do fine yep
Alright
it's not so bad once you get used to it
by the way ||if you want more healing windows shape of unn|| can actually be useful
Alright
Oh ok
||you should decide whether you're going for normal nail charms or nailart charms. So either
- normal nail: qslash, strength + whatever you like
or - nailarts: nailmaster's glory, and then charms that affect spells/healing like catcher, twister, shaman, shape of unn, quick focus etc||
||normal nail is usually easier to use but not as strong. Nailarts + spells are better but take more time to get used to||
on the contrary, ||strength + qs + etc is still useful even for nail arts build for bosses like nkg, since you can get in a slash or two after a nail art||
||I'm gonna go with normal nail probably it's a big jump going from no nailart to using it on one of the hardest bosses||
||spells are riskier due to them stalling you||
||If it was on troupe leader Grimm I would be fine using nailart but it's a bit different with nkg||
||quick slash doesn't change the first hit speed. Whether you get in a hit after a great slash has nothing to do with it. It can enable you to get in 2/3 hits, that's true, though that doesn't happen always and when it does it's not worth the 3/6 notches. At least not considering the value you could get from that using other charms||
that's fair, ||shaman stone or something would probably be better||
||I'd be more comfortable to use shaman since I used it for the first 80% but I just don't see any good times to get off a shriek I can probably only get shade souls off||
||If spells didn't stall I could probably get one off when he uses the fire beams ||
||during fire pillars you can get a shriek or two with good timing and spacing||
Yeah but it's kinda hard
||wowee nkg is hard who would've guessed.||
I tried it a couple of times and always got hit and it messed with my flow
Make sure you use ||quick cast|| when you use your ||spells||
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then you can just ||slash or fireball||
Yeah I always do
hey guys
Hi
Oh yeah you weren't really here last year 
Myriad....
Smh
Ah yes Mr. Teo it's been...forever!
I'm so confuzzed rn
lmao
Yarmdi, do you want to take this one?
I see that my good friend Grev is doing incredibly well. How fun!
Oh yes Mr. Melon. You're that guy who helped me with ||White Defender|| a few days back. Thanks 
I was?
yw ig
WTF ITS YARMDI
what do you guys think the best || general charm loadout is for 11 notches ||
||Shaman stone quick slash strength grubsong nail master glory|| ?
Itās kinda hard to tell cuz you are very much supposed to change your ||charm build depending on what you face, like itās the goal of the system||
I'd only switch || nmg and gs for long nail instead to ensure you get your hits in more safely, but pretty much yeah ||
Also depends a lot on whether they are a || spells guy, or a nail guy ||
||Longnail idk
I just tend to play the exact same with or without the charm, so I donāt think Iām actually using the extra range at all||
Can someone tell me how much times you have to get ||nkg down to defeat him? I've got him into his bat form 2 times and his puffer fish 3 times but that's the farthest I've gotten||
||probably dream wielder instead of grubsong||
||The pufferfish happens every 25% health so you almost defeated him||
||each pufferfish is 25% hp. the heart also has indications- at 75% health, the Heart beats faster, at 50% it glows, and at 25% it beats faster and glows more||
||bat form is just a stagger and tells you nothing||
Oh alright
||the bat form is called a "stagger", which is based off of hits. staggering appears in other boss fights, such as when hornet looks tired or soul master deflates. you can stagger an infinite number of times or 0 times depending on damage, so its not a good measure of damage. the only exception to this is false knight, whos stagger is damage based||
tldr ||staggers are based off hits not damage||
Good to know
So all I got to worry about is ||pufferfish form to measure how close I am||
yup
Alright thanks
i personally find it worse to measure how close i am, since i get more stressed
but stress can also mean adrenaline so 
That's true but I was already stressing by the second stagger
Either way I will stress if I get farther then I did before
Stagger needs to be spoilered
Then also spoiler tag it yourself
tip: ||if you have like 7 masks, shaman stone, and spell twister, you can facetank and spam abyss shrieks during the last pufferfish and grimm will just die||
Itās a stupid ass rule
If you find it stupid why ask someone to tag it in the first place
To show that itās stupid
Nobody would have given a shit
I got muted for a day for refusing to spoiler itš
And clearly you didn't learn from it
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What I'm trying to say is, listen when being told to spoiler tag something. No need to poke the bear

No, getting banned was 100% on me I agree
gg
||is that a bug?||
Spooky š³
Are you drinking your eyeball?
It's meant to happen
if by bug you mean glitch, then no
Be not afraid
Wait thatās my eyeball
if by bug you mean like an actual bug, then yes
LOL
that's also an old image
Thatās so funny in a game full of bugs u need to clarify
||I'll stick to what Ive been doing but I was just testing and shrieking after the 4 fire beams works well||
does that thing become ||the broken vessel?||
No
oh
Follow it and see what happens
Oh mb
Real
||deepnest|| isn't nearly as bad the 2nd time around
Yeah it sucks
Spoiler tags
oop
Dude wym Iāve done so many play through and it sucks every time lol
bruh how
The vibes
||Just leave it until you one shot all the little shits||
||Not that scary when you are the grimm (hollow knight reference) reaper to them||
to be fair ||devouts are always somewhat scary||
those slashy things?
||Shade soul iirc||
Facts
I also have trauma from my first play through, those guys will always terrify me
I love how ||weaversong|| is exactly what one would desire for the first visit, yet ||you dont even get it until youre very deep into deepnest||
lol
Please delete the image as it isn't spoiler tagged
my bad
You need a specific thing you don't have yet
Can you send a pic of your charms and items
i have 112%
ohhhhh
Yeah it gets better
Yeah
okay thanks
I like how this place is a wall of || spoilers || yet the people making the messages have names like (newsflash, tons of spoilers in this one) || John | Mfw died to Grimm 15 times then let Myla die on the way to get nailmasters glory from Sly before doing Pantheon 5 hitless ||
Usually people don't look at usernames
But yes this is just a shitty reason, real reason is that you can't enforce such a thing
Ik but it's still funny
Ban everyone who has | 112% in their username
Just for the reason that they think it's cool to brag about
real
Ban everyone who has no reply ping in their username
ban everyone
ban
I donāt get āno reply pingā it makes your name look clunky and no one even respects it
the mods respect it
if they dont respect it its on them
Sure but who cares whoās fault it is if the person getting pinged is the only one effected
They should just make it a setting
That you donāt get reply pinged
Make it nito or smth
They need to hire me
Empathy is hard to find here
Srry
you cant control what people care about
if they dont want to be pinged you can ping them, its just disrespectful to their wishes
K
i feel you man
Tbh it's also that some people (me teehee) have it on by default and forger
Reading names after the | is hard when 50% of em is just humble bragging anyways š
Wouldn't call it humble
Itās so when I ask for tips on bosses with 0 gear I donāt have to explain itās for a challenge
empathy is hard to find in most places
honestly i didn't even read the "no reply ping"
Didn't want to get too philosofical
Philosophical š¤
but i am philosophical
(didn't ping you this time š )
English hard
Real
the e in english stands for easy
||Anyone know what charms I should use for beating zote? I have every charm||
||quickslash, strength, mark of pride, steady body, nailmaster's glory ||
I don't use ||nailart so would grubsong be a good replacement?||
||nail art good for gpz ||
lots of down time for charge in
Hmm ok
||generally dream wielder is another good 1 cost charm||
Alright ty
||Update I fucked up by trying to some howling shrieks and died in final phase but im still using my primary loadout||
||So yeah im not changing the charm set I use for abs rad and pv||
Especially right at the start ||you can get a dreamnail in right as he jumps in||
||kind of confused on how to make pale lurker give me her simple key. I beat her once giving her āan itemā but she didnāt give it to me. I beat her twice not giving āan itemā but she didnāt give it to me. What am I missing?||
You need to kill her
I already did twice
Or is ||beating her not the same||
I'm just poking fun dw, I see it as useful so people don't assume your skill level is lower than it is and just answer "git gud lmao" (happens a lot outside this chat)
||What the hell is she talking about my trinkets are bad and sheās keeping the key? What is wrong with this woman? š||
True
||I genuinely donāt understand how I messed this up 3 times in a row||
|| Iām lost in beasts Den
||
||I accidentally walked out of the room where Brumm was to get carefree melody. I went back in and he isnāt there. Did I just lock myself out of it?? š||
Yes
Now u gotta beat nkg
Damn itttt šš
Rip also nice pfp
Thanks
||do I have to fight him with grimmchild on?||
Alright lemme test
||dream mail
||
Nope I need it equipped
||Yall Iām still confused about pale lurker. Iāve beat her and killed her 3 TIMES at this point and she STILL hasnāt dropped the simple key!||
||What am I doing wrong? Am I supposed to have a certain trinket? Because it does prompt to give an item but she says theyāre too dull. What do I give her in exchange??||
||kingās idol??||
this doesn't sound anything like what's in the vanilla game
are you playing modded?
probably playing on a different language and the translations in the game are poor
hey

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how i entry in call?
Itās to stop raids, and or spammers/trolls
Mark image as spoilers 
Ya u gotta delete it now
Anyways there's an alternate path to the left, look around a bit
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We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.
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A || breakable floor you can dive through ||
yes you need to go left and up
you are where this yellow circle is and you need to get to the red one
||so i just got to resting grounds, got the dream nail and stuff but when I got to the stag station, there was cornifer's ''note'' saying that he already went away... Is this supposed to happen or have I made it impossible for me to get a map of resting grounds or is there another way of getting it?||
||Im pretty sure finding cornifer at the resting grounds isnt actually possible. You can buy the resting grounds map, and any other maps you may miss in the future, at iseldas shop.||
ok good thanks a lot
||you can use the spell to destroy sections of the floor||
do make sure to spoiler tag stuff
Ok, how?
?tag spoilers
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We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.
š¹ If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.
Should I delete my replies
Not sure if you can edit an image to spoiler mark it
But you can edit the messages to add spoiler marks to words and sentences
I left only one important message
In this channel almost everything is a spoiler besides a select few words in the most recent pinned message
Oh lol
I think you should delete this as well lmao, OOC this doesnāt look very good
Delete this probably
Also black man with lightning reference
what
Context? What's that?
||How can I beat that giant bug with a huge club??? I tried like 10 times!!!||
||You need to hit it, run back to bait out the club, and repeat||
Could you also spoiler your message please
How can you do that I don't know
Try looking around your current area more
||Like this||
And spoiler marking your image
Ok
So many new knights today
Do you know exactly where? Iāve been running around to so long on the verge of losing 2500 Iām mentally exhausted lmao
||Do I need to upgrade my nail or can I beat it with my old nail||
||there is an ability in waterways but it wouldnāt help you there||
Can I see your inv?
Doubt anyoneās gonna get spoiled by that but how to do it?
Can do it with any level
?tag imgspoilers
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Ok thanks
||as far left as you can||
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||How to get the maps?? I can't understand?||
I meant abilities lol
|| already went there and got a bench, but thereās spikes I canāt go past||
Oops
||use these||
Hmm, looks like you need to come back later
Oh sorry I forgot it needed that
You would know if you can pass them
Yea. If you canāt reach it yet then you canāt reach it yet. Ignore it for now
You can
||Iām gonna cry bro i have to do that fucked parkour||
It's not that bad....
||Its so hard I died 3 times and those stupid knights bring me down to 2 notches||
Dude I donāt have that
||unless thatās the thing where u push down hard but idk how that would help||
Am I actually fked
Could you show your inv?
||but with the section with the nail||
K
||Well Iād wall jump off the right, but right below the horizontal spike corridor.||
Or not holding anything
Youāre talking about the very first spell?
tags
jump up on the right, ||downslash on the spikes||
Bro no oneās getting spoiled by that
how about you argue with the mods
also 99 other people have tried arguing 0 remain in this server
Check pins
š¤
as strict as spoiler rules are here they are necessary
Thereās a list of words that arenāt spoilers
You have been mod pinged.
I am not a bot. I am a Volunteer HKmain mini-Moderator. I do not have mod powers but my reports are taken seriously and those who get on my bad side tend to get banned in under 24 hours.
gg
now spoiler tag or else i will make this copypasta come true
Also just spoiler smh
It's 5 clicks
youre wasting more effort by arguing
It isnāt a matter of if someone can potentially get spoiled
Alright stop yapping buddy
please start spoiler tagging
||I see now I can bounce off the spikes||
Itās two layers
||this||
Unfortunately that's our job
There
"job" is a bit much...
Wait you don't get paid š¤Æ
With every person I help here I gain $100 idk what you mean this isnāt a job
i forgot to vacuum the house 
||Iām about to die again bruh I canāt bounce off||
.
Bro Iām trying and dying fuck bro
I died here 3 times already y tf they gotta make it like this
I just died š”
Just ||waljump||
It might seem crazy what Iām bout to say 
idk if you can
ig you can ||walljump then pogo, but idk about walljumping to the higher one||
might be a bit tight
Iāve done ||just a wall jump|| before, itās not that bad
I never realised people found ||using claw|| this hard 
It's not like it requires you to play twister on the keyboard
Twister on the controller then
||letās go||
gg
||thing is, u donāt have to go directly over those stupid spikes to hit them, i feel like ur claw doesnāt even touch them tho||
Oh you were trying to get there?
Yeah thatās way harder than the other way
Yeah I was trying to go backwards since I was stuck
No...?
From that room to ||waterways|| isnāt a speedrun trick?
There's a breakable wall 
||Donāt think so, u get in that room from waterways, I wasnāt able to keep going because I was missing something||
okay melon 
||Thinking about it, you probably canāt remember the exact layout but I donāt have a pic, couldnāt I have nailed and bounced myself off the long spikes on the left of the Bench?||
||no, thereās an overhang||
||U sure? I rememebr it being super tall||
Alright
Dang Iāve only played 10 hours of this game but it feels like Iāve played way more
Is this a good charm loadout for ||radiance||? I'm used to using a nail build (||strength, quick slash, mark of pride, steady body, grub song||), but that doesn't work very well if I can't ||hit him while standing on the ground.||
||Imo just use whatever you have fun with any build is really gonna be fine||
||I've just never messed with spell loadouts and I'm struggling with him||
||and also struggling with the hollow knight now too||
||Yeah, thats mostly fine, though I'd recommend using strength and quickslash, as both are very useful for dealing damage to a stationary, no knockback boss like radiance||
||to hit nail attacks, you can just jump up a little bit to reach her while still not being too far away from the ground||
||I've always been able to melt radiance by spamming abyss shriek so it's not too tough to use spells against her, also I personally took off Steady Body for her because I mostly hit her from the top and bottom instead of the sides||
||maybe during sword rain you can go in between the sword and stall using shriek allowing for damage too||
||sorry not sword rain, the sword coming from the sides||
||Im stuck outside mantis village entrance, i dont have mantis claw yet, so i cant get out, is there a way to get out? I've also been in this same situation before, i dont remember how i got out the last time lol||
mod in hk help wtf
||save quit?||
I canāt exactly remember the he layout of that room and Iām not at my pc rn so canāt help u rn sorry
||left side is village||
Im pretty sure you can get out by just jumping
||i did used the bench and im saved in that place now
||
||bruh||
ah its okay
||it slightly misses the jump||
||go to dash master maybe u can find smth||
||If that jump is not doable, you are not supposed to get out.||
||Is this vanilla or randomizer||?
||nothing there either||
||vanilla||
||probably, but that area requires mantis claw||
||do u have dash||
||and i dont have that yet||
||yesyes||
||go in mantis village||
No it doesnt, only getting out that way does. Go left.
||find levers and go up to get claw||
||pogoing mantis flying thingies exists||
||theres a big jump at the start of mantis village that i cant do||
||u can, jump high and dash quickly||
||i got out that way once, but fell in again lol||
||im dum||
lol
tyty

