hk-help

[ancient rivet]

and i forgot where it is lmao

[wraith storm]

do you have ||the silk binding||

[idle sable]

Is it good

[idle sable]

I don't believe so

[wraith storm]

good because it doesn't exist

[ancient rivet]

some would argue its ||upgraded version is the best in the game||

[ancient rivet]

was gonna say 😭

yhyh ||wraiths||

[wraith storm]

I phrased that terribly

[idle sable]

Alright well I'ma try and fully explore the ||mushroom and green path later||

[ancient rivet]

cool !!

[idle sable]

Good night, don't let the bed bugs bite

😼

[ancient rivet]

i hope not

[rigid knot]

Whats ||Black Egg Temple||??

[wraith storm]

the ||black egg is used much later in the game.||

[bright sorrel]

?tag uncspoilers

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[bright sorrel]

be careful with the info u give

[wraith storm]

what did I do

oh wait

I see

ok there

I fixed it

[bright sorrel]

the dyno message explains it iirc.
the info u gave was way too much, and so it spoils some content, even if not intentional

[bright sorrel]

saying thats where ||the final boss is isnt necessary given where theyre at in the game and releasing its seals isnt rly needed either. its probably best to just say its something for later||

[left hornet]

idrk what to do now

[vestal ivy]

?tag spoilers

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[scarlet hull]

without giving any context on where you are at in the game rn, thers nt much we can do

[wary mica]

hi i need help getting the ||112% im at 111 and ik what i need to do||

[shut sparrow]

||have you talked to the seer after getting 2400 essence or do your u even have that much?||

[regal totem]

Generally the last percent is either ||colo3 or seer in my experience. Also possible it’s a charm from divine if you gave one to her but haven’t paid for the upgrade||

[somber hill]

ur debt is overdue

[hoary falcon]

Any idea what ||charm || combo should i use to beat ||traitor lord?||

[sacred dove]

What do you have?

[hardy walrus]

anyone done ||radiant markoth||

im on the verge of being really sad

[vivid fog]

i don't play game sadly

[vivid fog]

but don't mention that in the server

okay nvm you changed

thanks

[hoary falcon]

Like almost everything besides the ||two half side/ all grimm things and grub last charm.||

[sacred dove]

How many ||notches||?

[hardy walrus]

whats 26/41?

[sacred dove]

I might explain depending on how far you are in the game

[hardy walrus]

ive reached ||absrad|| you're not spoiling anything

[serene ravine]

I just clicked what it means ahh

[sacred dove]

||The number of boss I beat in P5||

[hardy walrus]

who's 26?

[sacred dove]

||WK, and I died at Uumuu||

[serene ravine]

Doing well then

[hardy walrus]

ah thats fair fuck ||uumuu||

easy when you're patient but being patient is hard

[sacred dove]

true

Worst is, I was so close to reach ||Winged Nosk||

[hardy walrus]

do they not unlock till ||p5||?

[sacred dove]

Nope, you have to ||fight them first||

[hardy walrus]

i thought they were in oneof the other ||pantheons||

its so nice that ||normal nosk aint in p5 cus his asc arena|| is annopying

[sacred dove]

Same as ||SoB and Abs Rad||, exclusive to ||P5||

[hardy walrus]

atleast youve got ||sob||

[sacred dove]

Post ||Uumuu||, I see like 4-5 bosses that'd potentially end my run

[hardy walrus]

bte is the stuff in your name like a server thing or did you just change your discord name

[sacred dove]

server

[hardy walrus]

how do you do it

[vivid fog]

right click your profile (for computer)

and then select "edit server profile"

[hardy walrus]

thanks

[vivid fog]

For mobile, tap your own profile, and then choose "edit server profile"

[tawny sapphire]

Hello help

[sacred dove]

Assuming I don't face tank: ||Hornet 2, No Eyes, Markoth, FC and NKG (less likely)|| might end my run

[tawny sapphire]

Definitely practice those, try to ||RadFC, RadNKG and RadSent||

[hardy walrus]

||fc is easy if you dream nail||

[tawny sapphire]

In ||HoG|| for practice

[sacred dove]

||already done Rad NKG, that's why I'm less likely to die to him||

[tawny sapphire]

Good job

[tawny sapphire]

Yea you can ||stagger lock him||

[hardy walrus]

i use|| dream wielde||r so his fight is free

[sacred dove]

I'd rather use ||NMG|| than do ||RadSent||

[tawny sapphire]

It doesn’t matter if you use that, ||Stagger locking|| works either way

[hardy walrus]

||nmg for hornet?||

[tawny sapphire]

Real, ||Sentinel sucks||

[sacred dove]

||NMG|| in general

[hardy walrus]

alr

[sacred dove]

And even tho, I ain't a fan of ||FC|| I can see myself doing ||Rad||

The only reason ||NKG|| could kill me, is because I might be low or lag

[tawny sapphire]

Isn’t like ||FC|| before ||NKG||

[sacred dove]

oh yeah mb

So ||NKG|| shouldn't kill me then

[tawny sapphire]

||Just stagger lock, get soul, heal, then just use 4 shrieks and hit him twice||

[sacred dove]

ik but ty

[tawny sapphire]

Yw^^

[sacred dove]

(If he somehow does, I'm never playing HK ever again)

same for ||PV|| as well

[scenic adder]

What is the purpouse of the ||charged nail hit thing||

[hardy walrus]

it ||does more damage||

[tawny sapphire]

||2.5x more damage||

[tawny sapphire]

[scenic adder]

Is it any good to accually use ?

[tawny sapphire]

Very

Specially with certain things later in the game

[thin vortex]

tips for ||fucking lost kin|| please

ill add its ||rad lost kin||

[sacred dove]

||Defender's Crest||

[tawny sapphire]

Uh…||DDark go brrr||

Also use ||Sbody|| and bully him

[scenic adder]

Oh okay thabks

[tawny sapphire]

Yw

[thin vortex]

🥹 ill try that

[hardy walrus]

honestly just bumrush him

he doesnt have that much health so just getting the fight over with fast isthe best way

also i think you can cheese him with ||minion charms||

[sacred dove]

lame

[thin vortex]

yk what

after basically 30 ||rad bosses|| ima just do it legit

i've suffered so much its not worth not suffering more

[hardy walrus]

||lost kin|| aint too bad anyway

[thin vortex]

so far i have ||lost kin|| ||nkg|| ||markoth (he a bitch)|| ||sly|| and ||white defender||left and the one im doing is the second or third hardest for me

[hardy walrus]

ive only got ||markoth|| left and im in pain

[thin vortex]

fair tho.

[hardy walrus]

actually ||markoth ||and one more but thats a spoiler

[thin vortex]

yee i have those ||...|| still

bc i didnt go far enuf on ||p5||

[strong kettle]

||abrad|| ?

[hardy walrus]

yeah thats the one im on about

[hardy walrus]

yes

havent even done them ||attuned||

[strong kettle]

honestly im not surprised

[hardy walrus]

trying to do ||every boss radiant|| first

[strong kettle]

personally im missing ||markoth|| and ||abrad|| in ascended

[remote jacinth]

Do not underestimate ||rad tyrant||
For some fucking reason it's such a pest

[strong kettle]

then i got few on radiant or ascended

[hardy walrus]

dw ive done them but they were such a pain

[remote jacinth]

What do y'all have against ||moths|| 😭

[hardy walrus]

i did think it would be easier than it was when i satrted

[hardy walrus]

fuck moths

[strong kettle]

lore issues

[hardy walrus]

they eat clothes

[hoary falcon]

10 i think

[thin vortex]

when do i use ||ddark|| on the ||lost bitch||?

[remote jacinth]

But they're so nice wdym

[hardy walrus]

all the time

[sacred dove]

||Shaman, Spell Twister, Strenght and Sharp Shadow||

[remote jacinth]

Any time, preferably if you think you might take damage from a certain attack

[hardy walrus]

its good for getting rid of the|| orange balloons|| too

[thin vortex]

gotcha

[sacred dove]

respect ma boi

[remote jacinth]

Btw if you use ||sharp shadow|| don't forget to set up a ||dream gate||, unless you're very proficient at parkour

[remote jacinth]

Also maybe I'm forgetting but aren't there ||42 bosses in p5||

[hardy walrus]

i hate ||sharp shadow|| with a passion

[sacred dove]

I ain't fighting ||GPZ||

[remote jacinth]

Booo

[thin vortex]

n0

[sacred dove]

[hardy walrus]

fr id feel like i didnt even do ||p5 if zote|| wasntin it

[sacred dove]

w

[strong kettle]

fucking ||markoth||

[hardy walrus]

good luck for|| oblobbles|| 😭

[sacred dove]

take a break, do ||NKG||

[heavy blaze]

||Dream shield||, doesn't eliminate the challenge but it 's still pretty good during that fight

[thin vortex]

what ||charm|| makes it so the ||weavers generate soul||?

[hardy walrus]

yeah i didnt know that until after id done them|| radiant|| sadly

[hardy walrus]

||grubsong||

[heavy blaze]

should I use ||sharp shadow|| for ||PV||?

[hardy walrus]

i wouldnt butit would probably help with hit ||three slash combo|| thing

[sacred dove]

I did, it helped

[hardy walrus]

im an adamant hater of ||sharp shadow|| though so im biased

[hardy grove]

It can be useful, but I don't recommend getting used to it

[hollow prawn]

Good morning

[hardy grove]

Good morning Amber!

[rugged veldt]

Good morning

[sacred dove]

Getting used to any charm might be dangerous

[heavy blaze]

I don't use it very much but I thought it changed the cooldown on ||shade cloak||, sadly I was wrong

[hardy grove]

Hii Kristy morning!!

[hardy grove]

It is true yeah but not like for ||strength and quickslash etc...||

[sacred dove]

Until you do ||charm binding||

[heavy blaze]

Could you try to describe that better? Do you mean ||quick slash||?

[hardy grove]

If you don't use it very much then it's fine to use it.

[sacred dove]

||PV's triple slash||

[hardy walrus]

i mean his attack

[heavy blaze]

Oh okay

[hardy walrus]

||shade dash|| is a little short to go through it consistantly

but|| sharp shadow|| makes it longer

and the extra damage obv

[thin vortex]

thanks, i beat him and we will not ever discuss how i did it

[hardy walrus]

im sure it was an intense 100% skillful fight good job

[thin vortex]

you just saved 5 years of my life i would've lost manually executing the inputs and losing my shit to it

[sacred dove]

Which ||2 notch|| charm might be useful on ||Rad NKG||? (Outside of ||SShadow and Spell Twister||)

[hardy walrus]

are we forgetting about the best charm in the game ||heavy blow||

[hardy walrus]

what|| charms|| do you have already?

[simple island]

Uhhhh
At this point honestly ||weaversong lol, nkg really doesn’t benefit from charms much, like longnail won’t do shit,
What is your build ? Are you overcharming ?||

[hardy walrus]

like on

[sacred dove]

||Strenght, Shaman, QSlash and SShadow||

[hardy walrus]

id put|| steady and nailmasters ||on

or ||sprint and nailmasters||

[simple island]

Why aren’t you ||overcharming ?
Using qs shaman strength and for example soul eater or mark of pride would be better||

[sacred dove]

That's why I didn't say |||1 notch|| charm...

[sacred dove]

That's why I ask for a charm proposition

[hardy walrus]

just change the order

[simple island]

Well, now you know what to do :)

[sacred dove]

It's not about the order but the charms themselves

[sacred dove]

I guess ||Longnail|| then

[hardy walrus]

flip YEAH

||radiant markoth||

i dunno if swearing is allowe

[signal night]

is there a way to auto show spoilers

[hardy walrus]

any tips for ||absrad||?

other than ||ddark||

[thin saffron]

||Shaman strength qs steady and soul eater||

[tawny sapphire]

no you fucking bitch, how could you fucking think of fucking swearing in HKcord

swearing fucking sucks

[sacred dove]

And that's why I didn't ask for a build

[hardy walrus]

very sorry

[tawny sapphire]

it was sarcasm you can swear if you want

[hardy walrus]

ik dw

[hollow prawn]

||Fury.||

[sacred dove]

Ty 🙂

[simple axle]

||glowing womb is underrated (especially if you are uncomfort with spells)||

[hollow prawn]

Spoiler tags

[sacred dove]

I use them enough to not want my soul to be drained

[wanton basin]

Never let him cook ever again 🔥🔥🔥

[hollow prawn]

He burned the food

[wanton basin]

||If you're uncomfortable with spells then just do a nail build like tf||

[sacred dove]

My build is ||Strenght, QSlash, Shaman and SShadow|| and I'm trying to ||overcharm||

[wanton basin]

Npc build but ok

Go on

[sacred dove]

ok

[white pilot]

whats the best strat for dealing with ||primal aspids|| and ||giant hoppers||in ||colosseum of fools||?

[jade sedge]

Do you have all charms

Send a screenshot of what you have

[sacred dove]

You kinda lack charms imo

[white pilot]

what do you reccomend i go for

[jade sedge]

||You are missing the charm for the best colo strat and bunch if other useful charms so i'd recommend going explore for a while||, also itd be better to tag ||trial|| imo but not too important

[jade sedge]

Just explore and get what you stumble upon

[white pilot]

there are a few in shops i want should i get those or should i explore for them

[jade sedge]

Both i guess

[white pilot]

also i havent found a ||stag station|| close to ||colo|| or anywhere in ||kedge|| is there one in ||kedge||?

[sacred dove]

no

[jade sedge]

||No. If you explore a bit though, youll quickly find something else that makes accessing it easier than climbing the whole way up||

[white pilot]

i already have ||tram pass|| if thats what ur mentioning but theres only the connection from ||Crossroads|| to ||resting grounds|| so far

is ||steady body|| as good as i suspect it is

[sacred dove]

It makes you have a better dps so Ig (never used it)

[idle sable]

Dawg ||tf is this dung defender 🤦‍♂️ I just wanna progress but I gotta keep right these stupid bosses||

[uncut temple]

You will need him defeated

[sacred dove]

||Defender's my homie||

[uncut temple]

All my homies love him

[wanton basin]

He isn't even that hard

[sacred dove]

Something easy for you might be hard for someone else

[white pilot]

yeah

like ||hornet 1|| was absolutely free and very fun for me

[sacred dove]

The complete opposite for me (even tho it's now ez for me, I still hate that bitch as a boss)

[scenic egret]

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[idle sable]

Yeah but|| uh what about when he starts going mock 10 speed and jumping every damn 2 seconds||

First phase is really easy but the second 😔

[hardy walrus]

what ||spells|| do you have

[idle sable]

||shade soul and desolate drive||

[hardy walrus]

||dive hits him out of the ground||

[idle sable]

||will it stun him for a second or anything||

[hardy walrus]

yeah

its very useful

[idle sable]

Okay also ||are the charms shaman stone and soul catcher good|| for it

[sacred dove]

Yes

[idle sable]

I died

Okay attempt #4

[sacred dove]

you got this

[idle sable]

I died

[sacred dove]

You'll beat him, eventually

[idle sable]

Okay, you know what they say, 5th times the try 😼

5th time was the try

[idle sable]

How ||do I beat this big knight||

[remote jacinth]

Learn the attacks, use ||dive|| to stun him (while ||underground||) I'd say he's been pretty helpful

[abstract rapids]

I have 80+ hours on hollow kight

[remote jacinth]

Alright?

[idle sable]

I already beat ||dung man||

[remote jacinth]

Oh mb mb

Which one are you talking abt

[idle sable]

Does ||dive stun most enemies?||

[remote jacinth]

No, however, it does grant you ||invincibility for a few seconds||

[sacred dove]

Who?

[idle sable]

It's a ||big knight idk right of the fountain in city||

[remote jacinth]

A ||red one||?

[idle sable]

Yes

[remote jacinth]

Hit to initiate a strike, jump and pogo, repeat

[idle sable]

I suck at fighting ||the ones with a shield 😔||

[idle sable]

So hit him at the side?

[remote jacinth]

They're really annoying, agreed

[remote jacinth]

Yeah but dodge immediately and pogo

[idle sable]

Like actual dodge

Or ||dash||

[remote jacinth]

Just jump

[idle sable]

Boom

Too easy 😼

[scenic adder]

when do i get ||double jump||

[sacred dove]

Show map

[scenic adder]

can i send screen shots here ?

[sacred dove]

Yes as long as you spoiler it

[white pilot]

there is this weird yellow guy ||right of colo of fools||, how do i beat him? how much health does he have?

[scenic adder]

how do i spoil an image ?

[remote jacinth]

He's a fairly low hp one, just keep chasing him and hit him

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[scenic adder]

thanks

[sacred dove]

You're not close to get ||double jump||

[scenic adder]

😭

[idle sable]

I'm actually gonna tweak out ||it's every boss now that I gotta fight like 4 at a time||

[white pilot]

i would also like to know this

[tawny sapphire]

Show your inventory

[idle sable]

They are pretty close imo

[tawny sapphire]

Inventory

[tawny sapphire]

Explore ||Waterways|| more, specifically the right side

[scenic adder]

ah yea i passed throught there

[tawny sapphire]

Explore ||right of City more, maybe look for more entrances left||

[idle sable]

Wait how do I get the ||other spell and attack?||

[tawny sapphire]

Exploration!

[idle sable]

Just spill the tea dawg

[white pilot]

should i try to connect ||the are by resting grounds elevator|| to the right side of ||THK fountain||

or should i just explore everywhere

[tawny sapphire]

||East Hallownest||

[white pilot]

ig next time i go to ||city|| ill bring ||elegant key||

[idle sable]

Is that for ||spell or the attack||

[tawny sapphire]

Lower,

[tawny sapphire]

Both

[idle sable]

Do you think I have enough stuff to get it?

[tawny sapphire]

Yup

[idle sable]

Alright also, ||are the watcher knight people able to be skipped?||

[tawny sapphire]

If you want to beat the game no

[idle sable]

||Cuz 1 is fine, but then I had to soon fight 3 at once||

[idle sable]

No I mean like, should I come back when I have better gear

[tawny sapphire]

Pretty sure the max is 2 at a time

[tawny sapphire]

Yeah sure

[idle sable]

It felt like 5 😔

[tawny sapphire]

It’s 2 at a time smh

[idle sable]

I'll try one last time

🌝

Never again

[fathom bison]

There is a way to make them easier before fighting them but im not telling.

[idle sable]

Tf? Tell me 😭

Also, should I get anything before ||trying to beat them? Like spell, attack or charm||

[fathom bison]

uhhhhh,

A better nail might help. And there is definitely equipment that would make the fight a bit easier

Not saying where though.

Go explore.

[idle sable]

I have ||two upgrades on my nail||

[idle sable]

Just tell me 🤦‍♂️

[fathom bison]

Show your map

Ill point you in a direction to one of the things

[idle sable]

Xbox taking forever to load my screenshot 😔

[fathom bison]

Dang

Really is taking forever, good lord

[fathom bison]

Ok, yes.

[idle sable]

It's weird, you gotta screenshot them it has to upload to the "Xbox network?" Then I gotta go in the app, download and then send it

[fathom bison]

||You know the broken down stag station in kings station?||

[idle sable]

Maybe idk 😭

[fathom bison]

The one that isnt working

[idle sable]

Where is ||kings station||

[fathom bison]

||Right side of city.||

[idle sable]

I don't believe I have that ||station yet||

[fathom bison]

||you should have acess to it seeing as youve made it to the watcher tower.||

||just get to ground level and head right. Cant miss it.||

[idle sable]

Okay found it

[idle sable]

What now

[fathom bison]

||You found the broken down station?||

[idle sable]

Uh maybe?, I found a working one

[fathom bison]

||there is another.||

[idle sable]

Okay yeah found it

[fathom bison]

Great.

Have a look around.

Ah hell nvm

You dont have ||ismas||

[idle sable]

Like, near the station or what 😭

[fathom bison]

Put a pin in that. ||Youve missed something in water ways assuming that inventory pic is still accurate||

[idle sable]

Where is it

[fathom bison]

||off to tje right of waterways||

[idle sable]

I got ||isma||

[fathom bison]

Great

||The broken down station, then?||

[idle sable]

Is there ||a staggstation down here||

[fathom bison]

In ||waterways? No. Why would there be. Its a sewer.||

[idle sable]

Idk, okay what now at the|| broken station||

Oh, nvm 😭

[fathom bison]

Have fun :)

[idle sable]

||where do I go for the spell and attack?||

[fathom bison]

||No new spell. No new attack. Just have a go through kingdoms edge.||

[idle sable]

Why did you make me go here then 😭

[fathom bison]

||Required.||

||Youll want the thing that IS here .||

||And that thing leads to another area||

||aaaaand that area has a really good equipment.||

[fossil trail]

is there a location for the hollow knight boss

[idle sable]

Where is the thing I need

What side

I also found ||the collesuem but I left bc it looked hard ||

[fathom bison]

||You need the monarch wings to get to it. Thats all i remember.||

[fathom bison]

||From the start of crossroads, straigjt to the right.||

[white pilot]

i just found ||marissa|| and tried to get ||dream nail dialogue ||but she just ||turned to essence!|| Is there a way to ||revive her?||

[fossil trail]

thanks

[idle sable]

I have those

[fathom bison]

Alt F4. Unironically.

[idle sable]

What's the item name then

[fathom bison]

||Marissa was alr a dream ghost. By hitting her with the dream nail youve effectively killed her.||

||By exiting the game without saving, you go back to before you killed her.||

[fossil trail]

do you mean the entrance from dirtmouth as the start

[fathom bison]

Yes.

[fossil trail]

alr

[fathom bison]

Name of the one in ||Kingdoms Edge|| or name of the one you want?

[white pilot]

could i have done anything else if i hadnt

[idle sable]

Both

[fathom bison]

||Kingdom's Edge one is the Kings brand. The one you want is the shade cloak.||

[idle sable]

Also, do I have everything needed to 100% explore areas like ||fungal waste,green path,cliffs,crystal peak etc||

[fathom bison]

||uhhhh listen to her sing ig.||

[idle sable]

Is that the ||spell or attack||

[fathom bison]

||Peaks, Green path yes. Others not sure.||

[fathom bison]

||Both are neither but the shade cloak is still really useful. Its a dash upgrade.||

[bright sorrel]

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||example|| --> ||turns into this||

[idle sable]

I'm so confused so where would I wanna go for the other ||spell||

[idle sable]

It's the first area though 😭

[fathom bison]

||It wont help much with watchers, but for the third spell, its near fog canyon.||

[bright sorrel]

that doesnt mean anything

[idle sable]

I mean you only need to play for like 5 minutes to get to it though so it's not really a spoiler imo

[fathom bison]

This isnt the hill you wanna die on, buddy.

[bright sorrel]

there is no point in progression where you must start using spoiler tags. theyre for all content

[idle sable]

Alright thanks, what order do you think i should do things or does it matter

[bright sorrel]

your opinion doesnt matter unfortunately since its a rule

[fathom bison]

Hollow knight is a metroidvania. Do whatever you feel like doing. Explore new areas, get new stuff.

[idle sable]

Alright

[scenic egret]

spoiler tags!!!(do wht the other person said)

[scenic adder]

hey guys i think im stuck and cant do anything 😦

[scenic egret]

youre never stuck unless youre a pro gamer and do funny skips

be sure to use spoielr tags, check the pins for more information

[teal lynx]

shit rule

[fathom bison]

deal with it.

[teal lynx]

i am

[scenic adder]

i just got into ||acient basin and i explored everything, but i cant get throught the bottom big door which i assume requires something i dont have. now im trying to go up and theres an impossible jump||

[scenic egret]

go left

[scenic adder]

maybe im a born gamer and did one

[scenic egret]

you definitely did not

[fathom bison]

do what the other guy said, go left.

[scenic adder]

😦

[scenic adder]

i got the ||bench||

[scenic egret]

it requires an incredibly difficult set of actions plus some knowledge of a "feature" in the game

[scenic adder]

more left ?

[fathom bison]

More left.

[scenic egret]

if possible, yes

[scenic adder]

okay more left

[acoustic sigil]

||https://youtu.be/AlMkd-HxrEU?si=8rLvt425_M3niV5D||

[scenic adder]

thanks

[scenic egret]

didnt add the ||pogo|| smh

[fathom bison]

That also works if you dont have the stuff you need for a hard left.

[scenic adder]

but first ill go more left

[fathom bison]

At what point is the word left gonna stop having meaning to me

[scenic adder]

damn i just lost all my money ||in the fountain||

[acoustic sigil]

That's left for you to decide

[scenic adder]

when there will be no more left

[fathom bison]

||The fountain requires 3000 geo to work.||

[scenic egret]

when youve left it behind

[scenic adder]

is it something fun ?

[fathom bison]

Ah shoot.....i guess your all Right.

[fathom bison]

||Soul Vessel fragment.||

Yes, ||3000 geo for 1 vessel fragment.||

||Definitely not the worst trade deal you can make though.||

[scenic adder]

😭

okay i went left

left was the correct answer

[fathom bison]

Enjoy the area.

[scenic adder]

thanks i just saw || 4 groups of fire rats||

[fathom bison]

Excuse you?

||Not fire rats. Definitely not fire rats.||

[scenic adder]

||im pretty sure i know what i saw||

and i definetly was ||fire rats||

[tawny sapphire]

The hell is a ||fire rat||

[fathom bison]

||Yknow how all the enemies bleed orange except for a few?||

[tawny sapphire]

Uh yeah?

[scenic adder]

||enemies bleed orange ?||

[fathom bison]

||Those things are just small bits of orange goop.||

[tawny sapphire]

When you hit ‘em yes

[fathom bison]

||Orange comes out when it, they spit orange...||

[tawny sapphire]

Oh you mean ||light seeds||

[scenic adder]

damn so everyone is filled with ||fire rats|| ?

[fathom bison]

For fucks sake

[tawny sapphire]

Let ‘em call them what they want

[fathom bison]

fine, ||fire rats it is then.||

[scenic adder]

thats kinda crazy tho

[bright sorrel]

no

[idle sable]

Where is the second|| attack?|| I just found ||great slash in green path but I thought I was looking for something right of kingdom edge||

[fathom bison]

||the third spell?||

[tawny sapphire]

Guess what? it’s right of ||Kingdom’s Edge||

[scenic adder]

idk who to trust anymore, one person tells me everythibng is filled with ||fire rats|| and the others call me crazy

[fathom bison]

||I already told you where the third spell is, fog canyon.||

[tawny sapphire]

Believe me I totally will not mislead you for funny

[fathom bison]

||If your wondering about the shade cloak and kings brand then yes, kingdoms edge for kings brand.||

[idle sable]

||okay good I was making sure||

[idle sable]

No, the ||attack thing||

[scenic adder]

i trust the ||fire rat|| prophesy

im guessing thats the final boss ?

||the fire rat|| ?

[fathom bison]

||Nail art???||

[idle sable]

Oh that's the name

[fathom bison]

||Your close.||

[idle sable]

Alright I'ma get the last ||spell now||

[fathom bison]

||Yes, Kingdoms edge.||

[scenic egret]

youre*

[scenic adder]

damn im in a ||fire rats|| ass rn and theres a ||dead guy||

[fathom bison]

Idk what your on about anymore

Just go through the area...

[scenic adder]

IVE FOUND THE ||FIRE RAT KING||

his brain is filling up with them

[scenic egret]

epic

[fathom bison]

||Spoiler alert that is not the fire rat king||

[scenic egret]

it is the anti ||fire rat machine that got controlled by fire rats||

[fathom bison]

||that is your sibling being possessed by the fire rats.||

[scenic adder]

i can see he is

[scenic adder]

my ||sibling|| killed me 😦

[fathom bison]

||Yes he did!||

||Broken Vessel aint too hard. Just be patient and react accordingly. Take it slow.||

[scenic adder]

||i heard people like this boss righjt ||?

[scenic adder]

okay ma man

[fathom bison]

||most bosses that zoom across the room make you think that you have to be as fast as they are. You dont.||

||i say most because there is an exception.||

[scenic adder]

i get it

my favorite so far was ||the lobstar king||

[fathom bison]

The WHAT???

[scenic adder]

he was really really fun

[fathom bison]

||Dung Defender???||

[scenic adder]

yea some people call him that

[fathom bison]

||yea dung defender is fun. People like him||

[scenic adder]

||do i have to get his by theese spikes when i use my mega fart to get to the fire rat king || ?

[fathom bison]

||No you can cancel the crystal dash before getting hit by them.||

[scenic adder]

WHAT

how

damn that explains a lot of areas

[fathom bison]

||Pretty sure you either press fart button or the nail swing button.||

[scenic adder]

thanks ill try that

||hail the fire rat king||

[fathom bison]

||Still not the fire rat king.||

[scenic adder]

||we'll see about that||

[celest radish]

Does anyone have any advice for ||the radience||

[fathom bison]

||Abyss Shriek is the best way to deal damage against it.||

||D.Dark also gives you I Frames so if you ever need to do that, you can.||

||Like for instance, if the radiance gets in your face in phase 2 and you cant run fast enough.||

[idle sable]

In ||fog canyon there are these black soul looking borders, how do I pass these? I thought getting the new spell would do the trick but uh, it doesn't ||

[fathom bison]

||Remember that shade cloak i wanted you to get?||

[idle sable]

Oh alright

[fathom bison]

Yeah.

[scenic adder]

||when the rat king shakes his head i die 😦 ||

what do i do against that

[fathom bison]

||Dodge. Stay calm. Dont get too close to him.||

[scenic adder]

will do

this guy wont let me heal 😦

[remote jacinth]

Use the ||cheese to distract him||, then proceed by ||activating the mousetrap||

It gets him down to ||25%hp||

[scenic adder]

hes not a ||mouse|| hes a ||rat||

[fathom bison]

Thats what staggers are for.

[scenic adder]

he too fat for the trap

[remote jacinth]

Well goddamn I'm sorry ||rat trap then||

[scenic adder]

ohhhh

[scenic adder]

might try it

[remote jacinth]

If you have enough money you can use ||peanut butter instead, it's way more effective|| imo

[fathom bison]

alr i figure thats enough goofing off in the help channel

[remote jacinth]

Fine

[scenic adder]

he tool all my mony

[strange dawn]

Just did ||Soul Master hitless||

[fathom bison]

okay.

[idle sable]

Are any of the ||nail arts or other spells useful during the hornet fight or any fight really||

[fathom bison]

Oh yes. ||Great slash is good, and all the spells have their uses.||

||For instance, Dive or D Dark give immunity frames.||

[idle sable]

Should I be using ||great slash in the hornet fight||

[fathom bison]

take whatever approach you feel like taking.

You dont need to be optimal

[strange dawn]

I’m on my first run.

[idle sable]

Well I'm on my like 5th attempt

[fathom bison]

Good for you.

[fathom bison]

Whats killing you?

[idle sable]

Mainly the weird ||string circle attack||

[fathom bison]

Dash away when she jumps.

[idle sable]

And the ||spikes that spawn ||

[fathom bison]

||hit the spikes with the nail to clear them out.||

[normal rain]

do you need to upgrade the|| fragile charms|| for 100%?

[fathom bison]

No.

[normal rain]

what about nail?

[idle sable]

Alright got the ||brand, now I need to find the cloak right? In basin?||

[fathom bison]

yes.

[fathom bison]

||You need to go deeper.||

[scenic adder]

THE ||FIRE RAT KING|| HAS FALLEN

[fathom bison]

Sick

||Enjoy your upgrade.||

[scenic adder]

||i didnt know there is a fire rat upgrade ||

i didnt get anything so far

[fathom bison]

||Well, nothing to do witj the fire rat but its an upgrade.||

[scenic adder]

found it

[fathom bison]

Enjoy!

[scenic adder]

it has been my dream to get theese

[fathom bison]

:)

[scenic adder]

do i just go back by foot or is there a door thing somewhere

[amber perch]

same way you came

[scenic adder]

😦

[amber perch]

oh well there is a shortcut a little past there

[fathom bison]

Its faster tho cause ||wings|| let you access a shortcut

You have fun with that upgrade.

[scenic adder]

bro im fighting ||the fire rats king brother right now||

[fathom bison]

You shouldnt have done that.

[scenic adder]

why 😦

[vestal ivy]

What is that bro

[fathom bison]

||Lost kin is. How we say, for later.||

[scenic adder]

he hard ?

[amber perch]

I mean you can try it

but yeah a lot harder

[vestal ivy]

Nah

[scenic adder]

you are missing some lore knowlage

[scenic adder]

😦

[vestal ivy]

No dude just speak english thats not a real term

Anyway, its rlly not harder

[amber perch]

it is lol

[fathom bison]

this bologna person thought the ||lightseeds were fire rats and has insisted on calling them that despite corrections||

[vestal ivy]

He has ||almost 0 new attacks and just spawns little blobs way faster||

[vestal ivy]

Ah

[scenic adder]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rat as far as i know this is a real word

[amber perch]

also attacks faster and has a lot more hp

[vestal ivy]

On hollow knight bro

[scenic adder]

i died

he hard

[fathom bison]

He also called ||dung defender the "Lobster King"||

[scenic adder]

they were right

[strange dawn]

So?

[fathom bison]

Which is very funny

[vestal ivy]

Personally unlike other bosses, ||i defeated the dnail version of broken vessel rlly easy with 0 new gear lol||

[scenic adder]

bro everyone calls him that

[vestal ivy]

But idk whatever ig

[fathom bison]

||if dung defender is the lobster king, then white defender is the Lobsterfest||

[amber perch]

congrats, not most people's experience though

[vestal ivy]

Ty but i wasnt looking for congratulations just saying lol. For example ||soul tyrant|| i couldnt beat and just came back when i had better gear

[scenic adder]

dont know the dude personally

[amber perch]

I mean it is impressive

[scenic adder]

damn i really want to play this game but i have to go to work 😦

maybe i should quit my job

[fathom bison]

please dont.

[scenic adder]

so i can play this knight game

[vestal ivy]

I mean what i would say ive done thats worth congratulating is on my name, not beating some random boss :>

[fathom bison]

like seriously dont.

[scenic adder]

ill think about it

[vestal ivy]

But thanks eitherway lol

[fathom bison]

That would be a bad call.

[scenic adder]

you might be right

[vestal ivy]

I can see why it would be hard tho fr

[scenic adder]

my job is basicly a game too

[fathom bison]

Also yeah jesus christ you pulled that off???

Thats nutty.

[vestal ivy]

Yeah thnx it took a longg time

[scenic adder]

its kinda crazy that the person that dethroned the ||fire rat king|| has to work

[fathom bison]

(In regards to your name)

I repeat

[fallen tundra]

yeah, its relatively easy imo

[vestal ivy]

Yeah 😄

[fathom bison]

||THAT WAS NOT THE FIRE RAT MONARCH.||

[scenic adder]

explain this then

[fathom bison]

||what that was, was the fire rat knight.||

[normal rain]

is ||salubras blessing|| required for 100%?

[scenic adder]

def not true

[fathom bison]

||The fire rats do not have a king they have a queen. And she is VERY scary.||

[vestal ivy]

Nope

[scenic adder]

damn i bout to loose it man

i thaught the ||fire rat king|| was the end

[fathom bison]

nuhuh

[scenic adder]

then i have to quit my job

[fathom bison]

DONT

[scenic adder]

it would be pretty funny tho

amma do it

dont order anything to the UK because there wont be anyone to clear it through customs tommorow

[normal rain]

do I need ||journal|| for 100%?

[strange dawn]

I’ll try not to

[scenic adder]

thanks

[strange dawn]

No problem. I’m from the UK as well.

[acoustic sigil]

Please edit your message with spoiler tags

[scenic adder]

thats cool, but im luckly not from the uk

[acoustic sigil]

And no

[white pilot]

this is worth it right?

[hoary falcon]

Bro noooo

||I sold all the fragile charms to slyyy||

Is there a way to go back??

[white pilot]

this is ||master oro||'s place

[scenic adder]

why is this dude immune to my|| funny nail||

[hoary falcon]

||You need certain amount of essence||

[scenic adder]

ah okay

[acoustic sigil]

Yes

[white pilot]

ok i got it

[hoary falcon]

Ah wait

I ment i sold ||leg eater it's charms back||TwT

Can it be somehow revived?

[idle sable]

Is there a fast way to leave ||the abyss||

[blissful silo]

hey is anyone aware if there is and if so where I could find a slug cat from rainwrold custom knight skin

[strange dawn]

Ask in modding help

[acoustic sigil]

?tag skins

[languid radish]

Custom Knight Skins

• Comprehensive Skin Doc by ColetteMSLP
  • [Public Skins not yet on the Doc](#modding-discussion message)
• Video Tutorial 🎦 by fireb0rn
• [How to use Enemy/Boss Skins](#modding-discussion message)

Other Skin Resources:

• Comprehensive Skin Showcase 🎦 by fireb0rn
• HK Main GDrive
• The White Palace GDrive
• Misc GDrive
• How to Create a Skin

[blissful silo]

aight

[acoustic sigil]

There is one iirc

[blissful silo]

i dont think there is one on the sheet

[strange dawn]

I’m dumb and lost, how do I get to ||Crystal Heart|| again?

[acoustic sigil]

There is this
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPVyAv434cs||

Besides that there currently is a slugcat skin in the works but it isn't finished

[austere sierra]

bet

[fathom bison]

||Right side of peaks. Need to go up near the top from the left then back down||

[scenic adder]

would you guys rather force your gf to play this game or league of legends ?

[fathom bison]

The former. Even though i am sadly, maidenless.

[scenic adder]

that sucks

consder ||the rat king||

[strange dawn]

HK. I need to teach her how to play it first.

[scenic adder]

wouldnt it make her go insane ?

i mean its just theoretical

[strange dawn]

I already do…lmao

[ancient rivet]

i HAVE forced my gf to play hollow knight

[scenic adder]

my gf cannot hard games

[strange dawn]

She won’t go insane if I teach her how to play it

[scenic adder]

is she still alive ?

[spiral mantle]

yes

[ancient rivet]

remains to be seen

[hoary falcon]

Really....nobody can help me? 😅😅😅

[strange dawn]

Mine plays Fn Ranked Reload so…

[ancient rivet]

away with you

[scenic adder]

idk man

[spiral mantle]

shhh

[ancient rivet]

nuh uh

[spiral mantle]

yuh huh

[fathom bison]

||Giving leg eater his charms back is possible????||

[hoary falcon]

So it seems????

[fathom bison]

||Can you not just buy them back anyways||

[ancient rivet]

to ||repair em? ye||

[hoary falcon]

I think i lost them forever TwT

[strange dawn]

That’s a new thing I never knew in my 2 years of playing this game…

[hoary falcon]

He has nothing to sell.

[fathom bison]

Theres no way you did

[fathom bison]

Are they gone from your inventory

Like have you checked

[hoary falcon]

||I wanted to give it to him to fix them cause they were broken..||

[fathom bison]

||Check your charms menu.||

[hoary falcon]

Inventory gone

[ancient rivet]

huh

what does that mean

[tawny sapphire]

?tag saves

[languid radish]

Important paths

Notes: These are for Steam's default locations. For GoG, locate your hollow_knight.exe folder and follow from there. The Saves folder also contains Global Settings and your ModLog.txt. Some mod installers such as Lumafly can open these folders for you.

• **Windows except XBox Games ** 🪟

  • Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
  • Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\
  • Mod Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods\
  • To find Saves folder:
    1. Press [WindowsKey] + [R]
    2. Copy & Paste the Save Files path
    3. Press [Enter]

• XBox Games 🎮

  • Save Files: %AppData%\..\Local\Packages\
    • Find a folder in here with Team Cherry in the name
  • Game Files: C:\XboxGames\Hollow Knight\Content\
  • Mod Files: C:\XboxGames\Hollow Knight\Content\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods\
  • Note: Microsoft manages this install weirdly and syncs its files to inaccessible folders, so changes may need a few minutes to take effect and bugs with (un)installing mods can occur.

• Mac OS 🍎

  • Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
  • Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/
  • Mod Files: Right-click hollow_knight.app, select "show contents", then go to: contents ᐅ resources ᐅ data ᐅ managed ᐅ mods
  • To find Saves folder:
    1. In the Finder, click "Go" in the top menu and select "Go to folder"
    2. Copy and paste the Save Files path and press enter.

• **Linux ** 🐧

  • Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
  • Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/
  • Mod Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods/

[strange dawn]

wait………..||Leg Eater can FIX the charms if you die whilst wearing them. Is it possible you did this but it bugged? (Pun intended)||

[ancient rivet]

hahahahha (drop the comedy i beg)

[hoary falcon]

I'll restart the game and check

[tawny sapphire]

Delete user1.dat and rename user1.dat.bak to user1.dat

[scenic adder]

guys a ||worm|| came out of a statue ||and is floating|| and he ||angry||

[strange dawn]

The pun was very much accidental.

[ancient rivet]

huh

[tawny sapphire]

You’ll some progress but it should fix the issue

[scenic adder]

holy shit its the ||holy worm king||

[ancient rivet]

where

[tawny sapphire]

||gorb||

[fathom bison]

||uhhhhh can you give the actual name for once???||

[ancient rivet]

ofc

[tawny sapphire]

||ASCEND WITH GORB!!!||

[fathom bison]

||is it gorb or marmu||

[hoary falcon]

Oh thank god. It was a glitch. Now they are healed

[strange dawn]

[ancient rivet]

RAHHHHH

[hoary falcon]

God thank you

[tawny sapphire]

Ah good

[fathom bison]

||ASCEND ASCEND ASCEND||

[hoary falcon]

Ye phew

[tawny sapphire]

I don’t think they reached ||QG|| yet

[strange dawn]

Probably ||Gorb|| but it could be either.

[scenic adder]

i killed him but he made really funny sounds so i will listen to them as asmr

[tawny sapphire]

Last I checked they were getting ||DJump||

[scenic adder]

the ||holy worm king||

[strange dawn]

||Gorb.||

[fathom bison]

you are an enigma

[strange dawn]

*enigma

[tawny sapphire]

[scenic adder]

why do you think so

[tawny sapphire]

I totally would know what boss someone is fighting if they told me hey “I am fighting holy ||worm king”|| without any context

[fathom bison]

||or even more confusingly: "Fire rat king"||

[tawny sapphire]

That’s not even close to ||BV||

[scenic adder]

everyone calls them that

you two havent even played the game probably

[rugged veldt]

What

What

[fathom bison]

This is a help channel buddy. If you want help your gonna have to call the bosses by their actual names atleast to start with.

[rugged veldt]

Can you guys just tone the passive aggressiveness down a bit please

[scenic adder]

ah yea i forgot this is the help channel

what a pickle

[white pilot]

afaik the normal soul vessel holds 99 soul, and the ||extra soul vessel holds 33. does a second extra vessel store another 33 or is it less?||

[sleek plover]

||each extra one is 33 so one cast/heal||

[white pilot]

ok ty

[scenic egret]

they all store 33. the main problem is that ||when filling up the little ones you get 6 soul per hit instead of 11||

[white pilot]

oh thats why they feel different

[scenic adder]

can i do somethibng ||with this guy ?|| i cant even interact

[sleek plover]

||he|| does have ||dream nail dialogue||

that's about it

[scenic adder]

i have to ||use it on him || ?

[scenic adder]

oh so no reason to bother ?

[sleek plover]

nothing too important gameplay wise, no

[scenic adder]

okay thanks

[idle sable]

Is there a ||quick way to leave abyss||

[sacred dove]

from the entrance

[idle sable]

Uh I lowk forgot where the entrance is

[sacred dove]

go up

[scenic egret]

nope, unless you count ||methods of teleportation such as save and quit||

[idle sable]

How do I upgrade the ||howling wraiths||

[tawny sapphire]

||L’Abyss||

[sage flint]

I just got kidnapped

I just wanted to sit at a bench

[idle sable]

Is it through the weird ||blue door thing?||

[tawny sapphire]

Shame

[sacred dove]

no

[scenic egret]

no, its hidden in plain sight

[tawny sapphire]

Is it even hidden

[scenic egret]

hidden in plain sight

[shut sparrow]

ya you need to find your way out of there

[sleek plover]

||you will find a way through, the area you got put in isn't too long||

[sage flint]

Ok

[idle sable]

Where is it though 😔

[sleek plover]

||look for background clues||

[scenic egret]

hidden in plane site

its really obvious, right in front of you

[idle sable]

Okay did it

Is ||abyss shriek good||

[sleek plover]

very very good

[sleek plover]

||highest damage spell as long as you hit all of it, best against bosses and enemies that don't take knockback||

[scenic egret]

||it hits 4 times, 20 each, 30 with shaman. for reference, shade soul does 30 per hit, 40 with shaman||

[tawny sapphire]

More like 60-80 since half the time you are just gonna be double hitting ||SSoul||

[scenic adder]

How far into the game am i ? ||I just got to the underground worm maze||

||mr map says its spooky||

[scarlet hull]

The game rlly doesn’t have a how far, because everyone takes different routes

[scenic adder]

Ah yea true

[zealous sentinel]

So after I got to ||soul sanctum|| again and used the ||elegant key|| I have to fight something

How many hits does it take with a ||Sharpened nail|| ?

[sleek plover]

||he's not too tough, give it a few tries||

[zealous sentinel]

I did give it a few tries

[tropic seal]

||i think around 33-34 iirc||

[zealous sentinel]

Looks like I'm gonna need more than just a few

[zealous sentinel]

Thanks

[tropic seal]

you got this!

[digital flare]

What does the ||blue lake skip || do/get you?

[zealous sentinel]

Died again

[sleek plover]

in terms of ||speedruns|| it lets you get ||dream nail early||

if that's the one you mean

[digital flare]

yeah that is the one. Tyy

[idle sable]

What boss should I do next?|| I can do the teacher archive boss, mantis lords, crab, angry gem man and a few others||

[slim root]

Early ||dream nail||

[idle sable]

Oh and the boss in ||city, there are like 6 and you have to fight 2 at a time||

[slim root]

U should start with ||mantis lords||

[fathom bison]

you.....||you havent done mantis lords yet??||

[idle sable]

They lowk kicked my ass 😭

[fathom bison]

||you can do mantis lords with a broken nail, for gods sake||

[slim root]

. . .

[slim root]

TY

[sleek plover]

no reason to shame people in the help channel

[fathom bison]

sorry

[idle sable]

||the first one is really easy but then there was 2v1 but I've also only done like 2 attempts on it||

[slim root]

Save that to the end

[slim root]

Its hella ez

Trust me ur gonna like that fight

Also go for a ||nail centered build||

[idle sable]

I feel like I'm missing a lot of ||charms|| idk though

[slim root]

In ur first playthrough ur going to

[idle sable]

Like what

[slim root]

||strength, longnail and steadybody since u prob don't got much charm notchs||

[idle sable]

I have these

How do I get ||strength||

[tropic seal]

||same place where u bought heart||

[idle sable]

Ion remember where I bought that

Oh the ||fragile one?||

[tropic seal]

mhm

[idle sable]

I'm gonna die though 😭

[sleek plover]

||strength is one of the most powerful charms in the game so repairing it is worth it most of the time||

at least consider using it in spots you get stuck at

[slim root]

That ||charm|| is so op that u won't

[idle sable]

Uh should I ||challenge this warrior dream?||

[sleek plover]

||are you close to the fragile shop?||

[idle sable]

Yes

I died

😼

[sleek plover]

||he's pretty straightforward, only two different attacks||

[idle sable]

Yeah it's ||the attack that he throws those weird things down at once, the other one is easy||

[sleek plover]

do you have the ||dive spell||?

[idle sable]

Yes

[sleek plover]

||that gives you invincibility frames so you can use it to dodge difficult attacks, useful even if you don't get damage in with it||

[sleek plover]

||try hitting him from the side with shade soul, it will do double damage most times||

[idle sable]

Okay, attempt 2

[sleek plover]

gl

[idle sable]

I died

🌝

[glad lava]

you can use your ||shade cloak to dash straight through all his attacks. Pretty much trivialises the entire fight if you use it right. When he brings the pancakes down continuously from the sides to the middle head to the edge of the arena and heal.||

[idle sable]

||Yeah when it goes side to middle it's easy but I keep getting hit when trying to use my spell on him ||

[sleek plover]

||don't go too ham, try getting a dodge, then spell, dodge again etc||

[glad lava]

||quickly double jump after normal jump to swiftly gain height right after he finishes an attack. then use your spell and drop down to dodge. Remember you can use the shade cloak midair and that the abyss shriek is very effective against him.||

Tag fail

[idle sable]

Okay I beat him 😺

[sleek plover]

well done

[glad lava]

ggs

[idle sable]

I need to remember to use ||shriek against bosses||

[glad lava]

yep! but remember it’s nowhere near as useful against bosses that aren’t in midair

at least imo

[sleek plover]

it's super good on ||grounded bosses too, just gotta find the spots where it gets all hits and is safe to cast||

[idle sable]

||are any nail arts or any specific spells good against the mantis lords||

[sleek plover]

||shriek is amazing when they cling to the walls, you'll only need a couple||

get below them and it'll be fast

[shut sparrow]

||nailarts can be helpful sometimes but I think normal nail is best in most situations since you get a lot of opportunities to attack. For spells really all of them are amazing. Ddark probably has the best utility but you can try it out and see what works best||

[glad lava]

||use the desolate dive when they dash horizontally along the platforms, where possible. when there’s only one and it throws the boomerang low to the ground, jump over it and then have an opportunity to heal.||

[idle sable]

|| d dark?||

[glad lava]

That was an unintentional spoiler on their part

they probably meant ||desolate dive||

[idle sable]

I should probably get it

Where do you even upgrade the ||dive||

[glad lava]

look around the middle of ||Crystal Peaks, look for paths going right.||

[idle sable]

||after beating mantis lords, what area should I try and fully explore first?||

[sleek plover]

||just my two cents but asking for directions robs you of the fun of finding your own way through the game||

[idle sable]

Idk, Ive still had a really fun time playing it

[meager thistle]

Anywhere lmao

There's no one area you should go to, just explore

[glad lava]

||if you really want directions, look to the door to the left of their arena. But first you should take a look around the mantis village, there will be a few changes||

[graceful snow]

how do i get to deepnest

[idle sable]

Well am I able to fully explore areas yet? Like will I miss anything if I don't have _

[sleek plover]

the game has so many different paths that there likely isn't one you should do unless you get extremely stuck, pick one and explore

[meager thistle]

Almost every area in the game is a "you'll miss something if you don't have _"

[graceful snow]

chat

how do i get to deepnest

[meager thistle]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

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[idle sable]

Oh alright

[meager thistle]

And you get there by ||beating mantis lords or using the alternate entrance I've never used||

[sleek plover]

||this genre of game is meant have a bunch of backtracking, it's intended that you might not get everything in an area the first time around anyway||

[graceful snow]

im gonna crash out

HOW DO I GET

TO DEEPNEST

[glad lava]

In this channel spoiler tags are necessary to prevent spoilers to newer players. You can add them with || on either side of a message.

[graceful snow]

sowwy

[glad lava]

someone has already answered your question

[graceful snow]

nuh uh

[glad lava]

^

[graceful snow]

oh

[idle sable]

Okay so I have ||long nail and fragile strength and I have 3 more slots, what should go in it||

I'm thinking ||shaman for shriek but idk||

[sleek plover]

||shaman stone is never a bad choice||

[idle sable]

Alright, attempt #1 on ||mantis lord||

[glad lava]

nvm

[glad lava]

good luck

[meager thistle]

Buddy you have to be older than 13 to use discord btw

[idle sable]

I died 😔

[fathom bison]

buddy. buddy. listen. ||You jump. And you dash away. And thats all you need to beat them.||

[glad lava]

not very helpful advice

[idle sable]

😔 ||they are lightning quick with that silly dash attack||

[fathom bison]

||When they go above you, you dash out of the way. When they take the sides, you jump.||

[sleek plover]

you make it sound so simple, do you have advice for ||pv||?

[fathom bison]

There is no world where you can compare ||Mantis Lords to PV. Like.||

||There is mantis lords, on one end of the spectrum. And on the complete opposite there is PV.||

[glad lava]

-both bosses
||-both use a mix of very quick dashing attacks and long range attacks
-both in P5 (?)
||

[sleek plover]

and you are on #hk-help which has players on each end of the spectrum, just because one boss is easy for one player doesn't mean giving advice should be any different

[fathom bison]

||i think its important context that this person has 2 nail upgrades and a bunch of equipment thats well past mantis lord's level but i get your point.||

[sleek plover]

technically it's ||sisters of battle in p5|| but close enough

[glad lava]

It does say||mantis lords|| when fighting the first one

[sleek plover]

||yeah between you and me it should be easy as well, but being condescending doesn't help anyone||

[glad lava]

so technically

[idle sable]

Okay my bro chacho, attempt 3

[glad lava]

do not die, instead claim victory over your foes

[sleek plover]

||technically technically it's impossible to fight sisters of battle without beating mantis lords phase one so i guess we're all right lol||

[fathom bison]

i dont see how telling them to "not die" is better advice but im just gonna end the argument there.

[glad lava]

It’s sentimental “advice”

[idle sable]

I did It 😎

[glad lava]

It’s not intended as genuine advice rather as a supporting comment such as “good luck”

[sleek plover]

well done

[glad lava]

glorious

[fathom bison]

ok there we go. fantastic.

[idle sable]

So basically, I stopped trying to use ||spells at all||

And that worked

[fathom bison]

||Now, mantises arent hostile anymore! and you get some nice rewards.||

[idle sable]

Where do I obtain these rewards

[fathom bison]

||Yknow that one room with the mantis that flicks the lever and shuts the door on your face when you get close?||

Kinda off to the right

[idle sable]

Vaguely, haven't seen that area in a while

[fathom bison]

||that would be where your geo and additional reward is.||

[glad lava]

Also once you are done in ||Mantis Village head through the door to the left of the boss arena||

[fathom bison]

||ooh yes. That'll be fun.||

[idle sable]

It's in ||mantis village right?||

[uncut temple]

||Charm||setups for ||colo2?|| I have 10 ||notches|| and every ||charm||?

[sleek plover]

||shaman, strength, quick slash, nmg||

[idle sable]

Sorry, worded that wrong, like top part of ||village or when you have to jump down the big hole||

[fathom bison]

||I mean, your full kit no doubt. Fragile Strength, Shaman Stone, Spell Twister maybe.||

[fathom bison]

||this is good too.||

[glad lava]

||I actually recommend Quickslash, Nail Master’s Glory, Fragile Strength, Quick Focus.

Use Great Slash to oneshot most of the flying enemies.||

[sleek plover]

||if you climb up from the lords fight and hug right, you'll find it quickly||

[glad lava]

The hole

[idle sable]

I found it