hk-help

[sacred dove]

How does it feel to play Pokémon IRL?

[inland moon]

wdym

[charred wraith]

I'm prety sure we do play pokemon irl

[ancient rivet]

with tour freakish spiders

[charred wraith]

I mean, you can play pokemon on minecrsft if you're into that

[sacred dove]

You can't call the creatures in your country "animals"

[crystal tide]

catch some for me

[ancient rivet]

fr send me one in the post

[inland moon]

they are

like the mammals that lay eggs

[ancient rivet]

platypus??

[inland moon]

and dinner plate spiders

[inland moon]

yes

and echidnas

[ancient rivet]

perry the platypus !!

[crystal tide]

z

[inland moon]

why did you edit the message so much

[ancient rivet]

z

[inland moon]

triple edit 💀

[wild token]

trpile edit

[inland moon]

what

oh I mispelled another message

[little bone]

can i have some tips for ||absrad||

[inland moon]

please spoiler ||absrad||

[little bone]

oop

[narrow gyro]

|| P4 DOWNN ||

[inland moon]

ggs

[narrow gyro]

:DD am i one of the cool people now

[wild token]

SHIRO UR THE GOAT

[narrow gyro]

YIPPIE

[inland moon]

||in general just don't chase and look at her instead of yourself||

for more specific advice I need to know what attacks you struggle with

[inland moon]

nice job

[wild token]

you should try ||path of pain|| now!!

[narrow gyro]

NO!

[inland moon]

it's not that bad

[wild token]

yeah

[sacred dove]

I should practice my ||P4|| too

[inland moon]

it's fun with experience

[wild token]

its not as bad as people say

[little bone]

mostly with ||finding places to heal and how fast she attacks||

[narrow gyro]

u saw how much i cried in || white palace ||

[inland moon]

I don't remember where you can heal tbh

but for reacting just don'tfocus on yourself

[wild token]

ok but u didnt have the ||infinite soul charms|| so it was harder

||path of pain has statues at every checkpoint that give you infinite soul||

[inland moon]

look between ||absrad and yourself||

[narrow gyro]

thats also true

[wild token]

whats the worst that could happen

[sacred dove]

What's the best build for ||P4 and PV||?

[inland moon]

waste hours of your life ofc

[wild token]

it takes likr 1-2

[inland moon]

||strength, qslash, shaman, gsong, sbody||

[wild token]

i think my fastest is just under 5 min

[inland moon]

wow nice

[wild token]

replace ||grubsong with nailmasters glory||

[inland moon]

1 min faster than me

that works too

just that ||gsong is better for the first part of p4||

[wild token]

@narrow gyro what are u gonna do now

[narrow gyro]

|| isnt there another pantheon ? ||

[inland moon]

achivement hunting

[inland moon]

maybe

[narrow gyro]

yess i thought about that but some seem really rough

[inland moon]

they're really easy dw

[wild token]

yeah but ||path of pain is easier||

[narrow gyro]

||even the sub 5h and ss 100%? D:||

[wild token]

im almost done with achievements

[narrow gyro]

i wanna do || p5 im just searching 😭 ||

[wild token]

sub 5 is easy ||steelsoul|| isnt

[narrow gyro]

i see

[wild token]

||go really high up||

[lavish bluff]

for ||PV||, use ||qs, strength, shaman, sharpshadow||

[inland moon]

||yes fireb0rn made an epic guide and for ss just play safe||

[narrow gyro]

play safe? i play like a maniac 😭

[inland moon]

only if you can ||dash|| consistently

[inland moon]

so slow down

[wild token]

i deleted my ||steelsoul run with 2 dreamers done on accident||

[inland moon]

use ||fireball|| a lot

oof

[wild token]

i have qol mod and since everything loads super fast

yeah uu

[lavish bluff]

i should probably do ||steelsoul soon||

[inland moon]

it's pretty easy

[wild token]

yeah

[inland moon]

it looks harder than it is

[wild token]

my only problem is not getting enough stuff

i had ||no nail upgrades only dive and vs||

and like ||7 charms||

[delicate falcon]

Collect ||fragile|| charms ||and then immediately rush ddark ||

[sacred dove]

I'M BECOMING MORE CONSISTENT WITH ||PV||

[wild token]

i got ||cdash and forgot ddark|| 😭

[inland moon]

I just used ||strength and shaman formost of it||

[wild token]

real

[inland moon]

with ||ddark||

[sacred dove]

no?

[inland moon]

huh

spoiler ||112|| smh

[narrow gyro]

but,, its in everyoens name 😭

[wild token]

😱

[narrow gyro]

poopy

[wild token]

poopy

[inland moon]

we can't control usernames but we can control messages

pls spoiler

[wild token]

how is 112 even a spoiler

[narrow gyro]

it isnt

[wild token]

its not one of the secret achievements

[narrow gyro]

but whatever makes him happy

[sacred dove]

I'm becoming more consistent at parrying ||PV's triple slash||

[daring moat]

i dont think that's a spoiler melon erm

[wild token]

what.

[daring moat]

gg

[sacred dove]

I knew I'd love that fight when I saw it

[inland moon]

||112% is tho isn't it||

[narrow gyro]

@daring moatBTW I BEAT IT

[daring moat]

beat what

[narrow gyro]

tHE THING

[daring moat]

i dont think so, confirm with like grev or someone on hkt ig?

[inland moon]

||p4||

[daring moat]

oh, awesome

wait what

[inland moon]

Talent agency smh

[daring moat]

yeah, hollow knight talent (agency)

dont see the confusion here

[inland moon]

Task force is the other option but still an extra word

[daring moat]

[narrow gyro]

YEP

[daring moat]

proud of you

||p5 when||

[narrow gyro]

right now

[inland moon]

in 10 hours

[inland moon]

how many hours did it take you

[daring moat]

err probably around 10 hours or so? i dont remember it was a long time ago

[narrow gyro]

in 2h watch me

[inland moon]

about 10 for me too

still faster than the nameless king

[daring moat]

i should get done with ||p5ab|| maybe

[inland moon]

don't

[daring moat]

it's been bugging me so i should maybe get it over with

[inland moon]

it's not worth

[daring moat]

i mean

it took me 5 tries to do ||radiant ab collector|| so surely it's free

[inland moon]

time to do every other boss too

[daring moat]

i mean the only other tough ones are like ||markoth, absrad, and some small others like galien etc.|| shouldnt take too long surely

[inland moon]

if you want

but it took me 40 hours not including ||radhog||

including that about 60

[wild token]

🤯

[daring moat]

that's

nothing

how much time do you have on hk in total btw

[inland moon]

400 hours give or take

I have a bit of time off steam

[narrow gyro]

ab?

[daring moat]

dw about it, also spoilers

[narrow gyro]

zz

[sacred dove]

||all bindings||

[inland moon]

bro fail

[remote jacinth]

Nice job btw. ||P5|| time

[narrow gyro]

ahh makes sense

[narrow gyro]

IM TRYING

[remote jacinth]

I wouldn't get stuck on it for too long tho, if you can't beat it immediately then ||practice in HoG or do something else like SS|| for the time being. Trust me, you don't wanna remember the game as a sweaty grind for ||P5||

Totally up to you though

[rapid kernel]

is there any boss in this zones ||(ignore deepnest and royal waterways)||that isn't ||hornet, false knight, gruz mother, mantis lords, mawlek, soul master and crystal guardian||

[rapid kernel]

(yes or no question)

[crystal tide]

there is

[rapid kernel]

oki

[inland moon]

no any you can get right now

[crystal tide]

wait wdym in this zone

[remote jacinth]

||mmc||?

[rapid kernel]

the zones in the image shown

[crystal tide]

||waterways have a boss||

[inland moon]

I can't be expected to be 100% correct at 1am

[remote jacinth]

They said ignore ||waterways and deepnest||

[remote jacinth]

Just sayin

[crystal tide]

i dunno what's with the ||hornet and false knight part there...||

but they are in ||waterways|| zone according to him

[remote jacinth]

Those are bosses he's already done

[rapid kernel]

im exploring ||waterways||

ik there's a boss i haven't fought yet

[crystal tide]

okay but whats this?

😭

[remote jacinth]

They literally wrote (||ignore deepnest and royal waterways||)

[crystal tide]

[narrow gyro]

im totally locked in already

no way i do something else now

[remote jacinth]

Good luck then

As I've understood, you have a ton of free time rn?

[crystal tide]

you did ||p4?|| @narrow gyro

[narrow gyro]

YESSS

[crystal tide]

congrats!

[inland moon]

remember to take breaks

[narrow gyro]

not anymore 😭 i was sick last week, thats where i played a looot but now i gotta go to work again :D

[inland moon]

not only does it make it easier you can't just play hk lol

[crystal tide]

let them cook

[narrow gyro]

hollow knight became my life

[crystal tide]

||p5|| is in the way!

[inland moon]

she can cook but I wish I knew this

[narrow gyro]

real.

it falls today.

[crystal tide]

[inland moon]

well gl

[narrow gyro]

ty!

[inland moon]

x to doubt

[crystal tide]

y to do

[inland moon]

whar

[crystal tide]

rahw

[inland moon]

ew furry

[crystal tide]

That's what you wrote but in reverse

[inland moon]

ik

[rapid kernel]

now i have 😭

[crystal tide]

what's with your mind ew

[quaint lotus]

is dlc needed to. 112% hollow knight?

[inland moon]

but you made the furry sound

[crystal tide]

yes

[quaint lotus]

thanks :))

[inland moon]

||mm shit boss isn't it||

[crystal tide]

rahw rahw rahw! );

[hard zodiac]

DLCs come with the base game, you don't have to pay anything. They are needed for full completion though

[inland moon]

dies

[hard zodiac]

gn kark sleep tight

[crystal tide]

Arr, meow!

[quaint lotus]

huh, how comes? steam says i need to buy em

[crystal tide]

GOODNIGHT!

[inland moon]

where

you don't

[hard zodiac]

When you installed the game you got all 4 HK DLCs

[inland moon]

they're only dlcs by technicality

[hard zodiac]

They're not DLCs per se, more like expansions to the base game

[inland moon]

like I said

[quaint lotus]

how can i check for sure? cuz i got hk during the steam summer sale for 1.99 so it mightve excluded the dlc expansions

[inland moon]

why don't you trust us

[hard zodiac]

It wouldn't

[remote jacinth]

Dlc is base game

[inland moon]

they're just updates

[rapid kernel]

yeah but the fact that idk how ||he's gonna attack me makes it impossible for me to not die atleast once||

[quaint lotus]

cuz i literally cant access the dlcs man idk what to say 😭

[inland moon]

make sure you're on current patch that's how

[hard zodiac]

You literally can though

[inland moon]

they're hidden in the game

[quaint lotus]

ah

[inland moon]

facepalm

[quaint lotus]

okay, youtube time haha

[inland moon]

nooooo

[quaint lotus]

my bad lol. thanks for the help u guys

[inland moon]

avoid the spoilers

[remote jacinth]

Check the menu variants otherwise

[narrow gyro]

|| i was so surprised when i found grimm troupe 😭 ||

[inland moon]

||my grimm voice is top notch from all my time with nkg lol||

[quaint lotus]

dw ive purposefully not watched any vids on ||
pantheons or grimm troupe, ill just search up locations and do the rest from there||

i did the entire main storyline blind anyways so i dont feel too bad about it

[inland moon]

they're ||breakable walls||

[quaint lotus]

whoops need to spoiler

can someone send the line thingy, i dont have it on my keyboard ;-;

[remote jacinth]

||seh||

[narrow gyro]

||

[quaint lotus]

thanks :))

[inland moon]

||So, it was you who called us.||

[remote jacinth]

Alternatively || nyerr||

[inland moon]

||Well met my friend, I am Grimm, master of this troupe.||

[inland moon]

||GIMMCHILD||

[remote jacinth]

So how many doses of ||scarlet flame|| should I give it

[inland moon]

yes

[quaint lotus]

also one more thing, ||I beat the first trial of fools a while ago so I got zote but since then hes disappeared and thats the last interaction I had with him, is there any way to get him back?||

[inland moon]

||he's at dirtmouth||

||vanta, vanta, vanta||

[remote jacinth]

Idr does he start ||talking nonstop before or after bretta||

[hard zodiac]

only if you've ||saved bretta||

[quaint lotus]

||not anymore ;-;, idk where hes gone, might have something to do with the fact that I hadn't gotten bretta. yet when i beat it||

[inland moon]

he does still ||talk nonstop when she leaves right||

[remote jacinth]

Yeah

[inland moon]

schizophrenia

[remote jacinth]

We know that from ||gold zote||, don't we?

[rapid kernel]

||is there any bosses in royal waterways appart from dung defender? (yes or no question)||

[inland moon]

yes

[inland moon]

who

[remote jacinth]

The ||statue|| when you beat ||gpz 10 times||

[rapid kernel]

hell nah, and only 1 ||bench|| 😭

[inland moon]

||that's bretta's dreams||

[inland moon]

most areas have one

[remote jacinth]

Regardless, she ||leaves after gpz dies 4 times||

[quaint lotus]

anyone know where i can find him?

[inland moon]

||she still has dream power clearly||

but idk go to #hk-lore

[inland moon]

she's in ||fungal||

[quaint lotus]

||ive got bretta now, its zote whose disappeared since i fought him at the trial of fools||

[inland moon]

he should be in ||dirtmouth|| then

idk why he's not there

[remote jacinth]

Have you entered ||brettas house||?

[quaint lotus]

yup, its ||either empty or shes sleeping||

[remote jacinth]

Hmmm

[quaint lotus]

i think i just did a roundabout method of playing the game man, I even have ||cloth alive simply because I fought traitor lord before properly exploring ancient basin||

[pale raft]

Did you sit on a bench or quit the game after ||rescue bretta||?

[quaint lotus]

||yeah i rescued bretta a while ago, im 97% in the game now im j confused as to where zote's gone. Is there any other interaction you have with him outside of first meeting him and the trial of fools?||

[thick wing]

No I don't think so

[pale raft]

The interact with him are: ||rescue him to the boss, before deepnest (i dont remember the name of that big zone) and the trial||

[keen lantern]

finally deafeted || hornet 2 ||😭

i hate and love this game

[pale raft]

Well done

[quaint lotus]

||lemme check deepnest to see if i rescued him||

[quaint lotus]

congrats!!! thats one of the more difficult bosses but I had fun against her

[inland moon]

you did if you fought him in ||colo 1||

[pale raft]

@keen lantern now you can go to one of the best lore zones

[inland moon]

that's kinda spoilers

so shut pls

[keen lantern]

fr?

[final badge]

Nah i guess

[inland moon]

tis

[quaint lotus]

||tbh i havent even beat radiance yet for the second ed, but ig hollow knight counts as an ending||

[final badge]

You Mean "he" is spoiler?

[inland moon]

and it's unhelpful

[final badge]

Oh

[keen lantern]

yeah now I'm gonna unlock || the dash (idk it's name) so i can unlock new zones ||

[inland moon]

huh what

[quaint lotus]

imo yeah, ||unless you intend on going crazy and doing all the extra 112% bosses from here on out I dont believe there are many other bosses that are worse?||

[inland moon]

||112% is the experience though||

[keen lantern]

so you're telling me that i beat one of the hardest bosses? crazy

[inland moon]

not biased frfr

[pale raft]

I cant win the ||p3|| 😦

[inland moon]

anything in particular

[pale raft]

||sly||

[final badge]

Can someone help me with ||grimm(normal not dream) i have all charms except weaversong that grub charm (not grubsong) and thorns of agony. I can't beat 1 st phase and I have all skills pls help😭😭😭😭||

[inland moon]

||use only narts||

takes some getting used to but it's very safe

[thick wing]

No, don't use them

[inland moon]

bad advice

[keen lantern]

What buttons do yall use on controller ? bc often i miss click or som like that

[thick wing]

|| narts || are ass

[pale raft]

Ok thanks

[inland moon]

they are really good

[thick wing]

Actually ass

[inland moon]

that's a skill issue

[pale raft]

It depends

[inland moon]

and I'm not joking today

nonsenf help

[thick wing]

Saying to use || narts || is horrible advice

[shut sparrow]

||narts|| are great for many parts of the game and different fights. I feel like you just haven't really used them enough to understand when they are useful and when they aren't

[thick wing]

They are ass all around, I do not care what anyone says

They are fucking ass

[pale raft]

Discuss about that in the discuss channel

[inland moon]

if they were so bad they wouldn't exist

[sacred dove]

||When he bows, either bow back or dream nail, do not attack him
For Firebats, jump and dash then strike him
Dash uppercut, dash the same way, turn around and strike once
Dive dash, dash and jump+pogo
spikes, just don't stay on them||

[inland moon]

no u

[inland moon]

ok gl with ||p5||

[pale raft]

@thick wing @inland moon @shut sparrow
Discuss in the discuss channel

[thick wing]

I've gotten to || absrad || im not bad at the game💀

[inland moon]

nobody needs help rn

[inland moon]

so beat it

then do ||ab|| then you can argue with me

[shut sparrow]

There wasn't really a big discussion going on. Either way some hollow knight related discussion is allowed in this channel

[thick wing]

I have, I've done || attuned || and I'm trying to do || ascended ||

[inland moon]

no I mean ||p5||

[pale raft]

Ok, im sorry. I heard some mods saying that it was not allowed

[thick wing]

I want to do || ascended and radiant || before I do || p5 ||

[inland moon]

not extensive

[tawny sapphire]

I beat ||PoP|| in ||Steel Soul|| let’s go

[pale raft]

The ||NArts|| are usefull in some cases. But they arent affected by ||strenght charm||

[sacred dove]

In which ||Radiant fight|| is ||Grubberfly's Elegy|| good?

[inland moon]

none

maybe ||mms||

[thick wing]

Some

[narrow gyro]

,WTFFF IS HAPPENING IN || P 5||

[inland moon]

which is good

that would have been a terrible idea

[shut sparrow]

gg I lost one of my ||ss|| in there

[sacred dove]

Liar

[inland moon]

finally clarification about ||ss||

[inland moon]

that's why I said ||mms||

[thick wing]

Tf is that

[inland moon]

||mossy boi||

[narrow gyro]

|| MANTIS LORDS,m, EXCUSE ME WHATS GOIN ON ||

[final badge]

Thx

[inland moon]

lol

[tawny sapphire]

||RadKoth||

[thick wing]

That's || mmc ||

[inland moon]

right

I should eep but eh

||mms is main menu storage lol||

[tawny sapphire]

Ayyy one of my favorite bosses

[sacred dove]

It helped me against ||Gruz (speeding up the fight more than anything)||

[inland moon]

lol

[thick wing]

|| Sisters of Battle || is soooooo fun

[inland moon]

it's not very practical to use largely

[thick wing]

All you have to do is get good reaction time to dodge them

[inland moon]

yeah so cool

[narrow gyro]

I AGREE I MEAN I JUST BEAT IT BUT WTFFF THAT WAS CRAZY 😭

[tawny sapphire]

It’s good against a few like ||Gruz, MMC, Markoth, Sly|| etc

[inland moon]

I recommend ||nail 0 sob||

[thick wing]

|| nail 0 SoB || is crazy

[inland moon]

it's fun

[thick wing]

|| sly || is debatable, it helped me with || NKG ||

[inland moon]

you get to fight the good part for way longer

[inland moon]

how

and why not use ||eater||

[thick wing]

I never use || spells in NKG ||

[inland moon]

you should use some

[thick wing]

No

[inland moon]

they're vey nice

[thick wing]

I always either get hit or he tps away

[tawny sapphire]

Wuh in what attack can you use ||GFE|| in ||NKG||?

[thick wing]

You have like no time to use them

[inland moon]

you can use them in a few places

[thick wing]

Literally no places

[shut sparrow]

That's not because of the ||spells. You just aren't used to them yet||

[inland moon]

||fire pillars||

[wild token]

real

[thick wing]

I'd rather use || nail ||

[tawny sapphire]

I know how to use them for every attack it’s just better to not do that

[rapid kernel]

||i nearly explored the whole waterways zone and haven't found a stag, is there even a stag in Waterways? (yes or no question)||

[ancient rivet]

no

[inland moon]

your arguments are just "idk how to use = bad"

[thick wing]

I've done || Rad NKG ||

[tawny sapphire]

No

[inland moon]

I've done ||p5ab||

[shut sparrow]

||https://youtu.be/4ecojAwPL_A?si=oe3MSkXHc-mhUDAd||

[thick wing]

I do noy care

[inland moon]

and ||rad charmless nkg||

[inland moon]

neither do I

[tawny sapphire]

I have also done ||RadNKG|| and ||RadIKG||

[thick wing]

Also do not care

[rapid kernel]

so i can only leave ||waterways by walking to another zone?||

[sacred dove]

that actually is impressive

[tawny sapphire]

Isn’t it like impossible to do ||spells only||

[thick wing]

I was saying I had done it bc it's not like I'm not used to him

[inland moon]

it's not that hard

it's just dodging a bit longer

[sacred dove]

Without charms, it is

[shut sparrow]

||not with dream nail||

[tawny sapphire]

||Dreamnail in firebats?||

[sacred dove]

||Weaversong+Grubsong||

[inland moon]

you could just watch the video

[inland moon]

||it's spells only||

[tawny sapphire]

That’s not ||Spells|| only

[shut sparrow]

you can watch the video yourself. I don't know all the spots where you can conveniently ||dream nail but there are multiple spots I think||

[sacred dove]

fuck it then

[inland moon]

true

[shut sparrow]

not really

[inland moon]

I though it was?

is ||weaverlings not violating the rules?||

[sacred dove]

I sometimes just would like to expand my domain on certain bosses

[wild token]

i need to try this

[tawny sapphire]

Pretty sure it does

[inland moon]

exactly

[shut sparrow]

well you can win with ||weaversong + gsong and not use a single spell||

[inland moon]

that's what I'm saying

[whole latch]

Yeah lol

[tawny sapphire]

I still haven’t done ||RadIsma||

[wild token]

im gonna try ||spell only nkg|| lololo

[inland moon]

fair tbh

[shut sparrow]

Oh lol I thought your reply meant that ||weaversong was spells only|| mb

[inland moon]

||isma is annoying af||

[inland moon]

fair enough

I wasn't very clear

[tawny sapphire]

Istg ||she can’t stop spawning shit||

[wild token]

whos ||isma||

[inland moon]

||one of the knights||

she made ||isma's tear||

[tawny sapphire]

You know the tree where you get ||Isma’s tear?||

[wild token]

yeah but like whos ||isma||

[inland moon]

that's ||isma||

[wild token]

but there isnt a fight

[inland moon]

the ||lady in the tree||

[tawny sapphire]

That tree is ||Isma’s|| corpse

[shut sparrow]

it's a mod

[wild token]

oh

[thick wing]

It's a || pale court || modded boss

[tawny sapphire]

||Pale Court||

[inland moon]

and I'm bad at it

[wild token]

oh ok

[inland moon]

spoilers maybe

[shut sparrow]

||pale court|| needs tags

[shut sparrow]

that too

[thick wing]

Tf

It's a mod

[inland moon]

just do it

[thick wing]

Not base game

[inland moon]

||pale is a spoiler||

[shut sparrow]

||pale court is mentioned in base game dialogue||

[wild token]

im gonna start doing some ||bindings||

[inland moon]

and ||pale court|| is even worse

[tawny sapphire]

It’s OST

[inland moon]

ost is still spoilers

[tawny sapphire]

I wonder how many people found the secret above ||Dryya’s arena on their own||

[shut sparrow]

it's not about the ost

[inland moon]

I can't say ||sealed vessel|| now can I

[inland moon]

I did

[sacred dove]

Not really

[inland moon]

and I felt like a genius

[inland moon]

exactly

[shut sparrow]

this still needs to be edited

[inland moon]

<@&283547423706447872> refusing to spoiler

[narrow gyro]

|| P5 EASYYY (idk how far i am) ||

[inland moon]

what boss

[narrow gyro]

||collector down||

[thick wing]

You could literally just ping me...I left to do || absrad ||

[inland moon]

we did

[inland moon]

about halfway iirc

[sacred dove]

Meanwhile I'm stuck at ||P4 and can't beat PV||

[inland moon]

what's the other %

[narrow gyro]

shiii ok ok

[inland moon]

apart from ||pv||

[thick wing]

You didnt

[narrow gyro]

i mean || pv took me ages but holyy it was worth it, was shaking when i beat it LOL amazing fight ||

[sacred dove]

||Colo 3||

[inland moon]

takes around 50 mins for a first run

[thick wing]

That's not a ping...

[narrow gyro]

i see idk how long im in already

[inland moon]

literally is

[shut sparrow]

you can see it is a ping because it appears yellow on your screen

[inland moon]

you got @ed

[shut sparrow]

also this needs tags

[meager thistle]

It was a reply ping, which is a ping

[thick wing]

I forgot abt that one

[nimble holly]

why yall even talkin bout modded things in here

[inland moon]

the hard stuff is near the end

[inland moon]

why not

[thick wing]

Idfk

[narrow gyro]

i thought so yeahh ahah its a breeze til now || even tho mantis lords was a bit scary ||

[meager thistle]

Because #modding-discussion iirc

[inland moon]

well yeah

[nimble holly]

this is for help with the game
if you modded it its no longer the same game, go talk to modding nerds

[inland moon]

ok fine

[thick wing]

Someone said || isma || fight is hard and someone didn't know what that was

[inland moon]

mean

[nimble holly]

[inland moon]

||isma (the character) is basegame||

[midnight solstice]

||does this door open?||

[thick wing]

That's why I said || isma || fight

[narrow gyro]

,,, D::: ||wtf man this is cruel ||

[shut sparrow]

no

[thick wing]

No

[inland moon]

no

[shut sparrow]

oof

[tawny sapphire]

Damn I am not lonely

[tawny sapphire]

Snailed!

[sacred dove]

||The most cruel part is, out of all the bosses they could give a new form, they chose Nosk||

[inland moon]

||I always thought the ogrim areana should have a secret bc you can get up the wall||

[tawny sapphire]

That’s literally one of the only healing bosses till ||TL||

[inland moon]

so I tried on the other ones

[thick wing]

|| no eyes ||

|| lost kin ||

[inland moon]

you can't in ||p5||

[narrow gyro]

|| i mean normal nosk was kinda a meme when it comes to difficulty idk ||

[thick wing]

Yes you can

[inland moon]

||lk is too fast||

[inland moon]

yeah but it's risky af

[thick wing]

|| Stagger ||

[inland moon]

||balloons||

[shut sparrow]

you can consistently heal on every boss

[thick wing]

You can still get fuckin heals off

[inland moon]

^

[thick wing]

Debatable

[shut sparrow]

not rly

[inland moon]

just bosses with enourmous healing opportunities

[narrow gyro]

just fucking speedran ||sly|| holy shit little gremlin had no chance

[inland moon]

||fc compared to nkg for instance||

[thick wing]

|| markoth? GPZ? ||

[inland moon]

||shield, stagger||

[narrow gyro]

what || markoth is super easy to heal huh ||

[inland moon]

not in ||p5||

don't try until you get a lot better

it's really annoying if you do heal

[narrow gyro]

oh.. he comes in like || 2-3 bosses i think? if p4 just repeats itself ||

[shut sparrow]

||you can heal in between the spear attacks and on the spinning shield attack on Markoth in both phases charmless. So basically all the time. And on gpz there are staggers and you can heal while he summons volatile zotes along with multiple other occasions I believe, also charmless||

[inland moon]

well you'll see what I mean then

[thick wing]

Most my || p5 || runs end when I go to like || 2 or 3 masks || on || markoth || then die to || GPZ ||

[narrow gyro]

oki

[inland moon]

use ||narts||

[narrow gyro]

WTF Is || NO EYES ARENAI M GRONNA THROW UP ||

[thick wing]

No

[inland moon]

but whatever

[inland moon]

see

making it very hard for no reason

reminding me of that one ||pv|| guy who refused to try to pogo it

[thick wing]

I've tried them on || RadKoth || and it made me consistently lose

[inland moon]

so practice

"I didn''t immediately get used to them = ass"

[thick wing]

I'm not fucking using || narts ||

[inland moon]

eh I see I can't change your mind

[shut sparrow]

they need practice just like anything else. They aren't the magical formula that will work first try and then you'll be able to beat anything. They are difficult to learn but once you are able to use them well they are a great help

[thick wing]

They're actually ass

[inland moon]

but I like arguing nonetheless

[inland moon]

^

[thick wing]

I'm a switch player, there fucking ass

[final badge]

On who

[inland moon]

well there's your issue lol

[shut sparrow]

I'm a switch player too

[inland moon]

wow really

never would have thought

[proper frost]

nonsenf the GOAT

[narrow gyro]

||p5 is the prettiest thing ever wtf||

[inland moon]

was that uncspoilers

[shut sparrow]

Roma 🙀

[thick wing]

Huh?

[inland moon]

other guy

I realised I may have done uncspoilers

[proper frost]

||here for 5 seconds tho||

[thick wing]

Saying || radiant markoth || isn't uncspoilers

[inland moon]

is if he doesn't know what either of those things are

[thick wing]

He asked who is || RadKoth || basically and || Radiant Markoth || is a valid answer

[final badge]

||You can try to doge his attacks using desolate dive||

[shut sparrow]

cya

[daring moat]

gn roma

[inland moon]

that's not a good idea but it can't get worse for him lol

[shut sparrow]

yearly fiablo appearance in help

[tawny sapphire]

||No Eyes and LK are NOT healing bosses imo||

[proper frost]

||more like good run||

[daring moat]

WDYM yearly

[thick wing]

They are

[daring moat]

i was there earlier so much

[daring moat]

[wild token]

i ||killed 1 brother and died to the other onp1ab|| 😔

[thick wing]

|| no eyes || is free heals in || p5 ||

[shut sparrow]

earlier today or earlier this year

[daring moat]

today

[inland moon]

can you show us then

[tawny sapphire]

never once have I succesfully healed back to full on them and I don’t wanna test that

[inland moon]

I wouldlike to know

[thick wing]

I play on switch, how tf

[inland moon]

then stop talking bs

[thick wing]

I'm not talking bs

[inland moon]

at least explain

[daring moat]

maybe he finds it easy i suppose

[thick wing]

As long as you jump and hit every so often for || soul no eyes || is free heals in || p5 ||

[inland moon]

wow wonderful

atttack and heal

[thick wing]

It's literally not that hard

[inland moon]

hold on

I'll check this

gimme like 5 mins

[daring moat]

that's like saying ||'oh, nkg is free heals cuz like the boss is super easy to do after you've learned it'||

[shut sparrow]

For further discussion move to #hk-discussion imo

[thick wing]

How

[daring moat]

you can always mess up in any fight

[shut sparrow]

or #hk-general

[daring moat]

for me, that boss is free heals

and yeah we should move to another channel

[inland moon]

true

[daring moat]

spoiler

[sacred dove]

How do I ||trivia Watcher Knights in P4||?

[thick wing]

Fuck forgot

[daring moat]

trivia?

[daring moat]

'tis of no concern

[inland moon]

trivialise perhaps

[thick wing]

I'm not gonna continue bc I want to do || absrad ||

[sacred dove]

Yes

[inland moon]

well I have one final piece of advice

[inland moon]

|| ||

[inland moon]

you want to stay close so they ||slash then dash away and hit them||

also spam ||ddark||

[narrow gyro]

ok but this was kindaa doable i mean it wasnt as easy as || p4|| but not impossible

[inland moon]

||no floor prevents the usual shriek spam strat||

[sacred dove]

Is there a way to like ||not use my spells (would like to keep it for PV)||?

[inland moon]

it's probably the worst ||ascended change||

[daring moat]

you mean best

except for ||collector|| ofc

[narrow gyro]

ohh i didnt even know thats a thing LOL

[daring moat]

[narrow gyro]

like the strat but makes sense now yes

[inland moon]

you can just use nail

but you get loads of soul so who cares

[shut sparrow]

||collector ab trauma activated||

[inland moon]

shiro how many hours do you have on your save

[daring moat]

oh yeah nonsenf im becoming a ||collector player||

[inland moon]

this is insanely good

[shut sparrow]

oh no...

[daring moat]

guess how many tries it took me to beat ||rad ab collector from nothing||

[narrow gyro]

holy shit i need a toilet break how long have i been at it 😭 at || in pause menu at failed champion rn, i think one of the easiest one :D HOW LONG DOES THIS GO ||

[inland moon]

5 tries

[shut sparrow]

there is no saving him

[daring moat]

SMH

spoiler tags, melon, spoiler tags

[inland moon]

nearly there

[daring moat]

you should know

[shut sparrow]

no way it's actually 5

[daring moat]

it is

[shut sparrow]

that's insane gg

[daring moat]

||2 tries for attuned then 3 for radiant||

[narrow gyro]

oh sorry didnt see uh ill leave || pantheon right if i go out now LOL || earlier it was 40-50 something

[inland moon]

I mean it took me 4 tries to do ||charmless radkoth||

[daring moat]

[inland moon]

wow you're cracked

[daring moat]

i'd probably fail at that tbf

[sacred dove]

Sometimes, I feel like ||spamming against White Defender|| shouldn't work but it does

[inland moon]

lol

[daring moat]

i told you shiro was cracked :3

[shut sparrow]

||but like with the stronger enemies? That's actually crazy. I wouldn't beat it now if you gave me 2 hours||

[daring moat]

ohman

[inland moon]

like my time nearly

[narrow gyro]

idk i think its more that i brute force everything and dont take breaks 😭 || i did nkg early in my save because i didnt wanna leave him and get stronger,, too stubborn ||

same with || colo 3, think that took me like 4h straight 😭 cuz i instantly did all of it when i discovered it ||

[shut sparrow]

||with that I don't think p5ab would take you more than a few tries honestly||

[inland moon]

and then there's me who was to scared to do ||nkg|| until I was maxed

[shut sparrow]

btw how many hours do you have in the game?

[daring moat]

uhh should be around 370-380

[narrow gyro]

i forgot || the charm name but the one that gives the black dash,, holy that gotta be my favorite one, learned to love it in p4||

[inland moon]

wow nice

you're really good for 380

[daring moat]

[shut sparrow]

nonono wtfffff. How did you do it so fast then

[daring moat]

consider that i spent like 130 hours on ||low gear gpz||

more than that now ig

[shut sparrow]

I mean true yeah

[inland moon]

you what

[daring moat]

skills transfer over ig

[inland moon]

why

[daring moat]

because it's fun

[inland moon]

nameless king is fun

||not 100 hours of gpz 😭 ||

[daring moat]

my current final goal for ||gpz is 1 damage nail white spells all bindings no movement abilities no nail arts 57 hp minions||

[inland moon]

fr?

[daring moat]

smh depends on person to person

[daring moat]

yes fr

[inland moon]

[daring moat]

it's actually looking to be quite fun

[shut sparrow]

||the minions survive a great slash ||

[narrow gyro]

agreed

[shut sparrow]

oh nvm

[daring moat]

||great slash does 2 damage ||

lmao

[shut sparrow]

yeah

[inland moon]

*3

[daring moat]

nope, 2

[inland moon]

doesn't it round up?

[daring moat]

nope

[inland moon]

why

[daring moat]

idk

[inland moon]

weird

[narrow gyro]

what game made me semi decent at hollow knight i wonder

[daring moat]

i think it's like it chooses the even number when it's in 0.5 something

[inland moon]

ds3

[daring moat]

which games have ya played

[daring moat]

for example: ||21*2.5 = 52.5, rounding to 52||

[inland moon]

she said nameless king so dark souls

[daring moat]

oh, she did? makes sense then

she's used to the grinding

[inland moon]

I played ds3 after hk

[daring moat]

mhm

[inland moon]

and hk definitely prepared me for that lol

[daring moat]

and vice versa would be true, i assume

[narrow gyro]

ugh oki quick break over,, || time to finish failed champion and see whats next ||

[daring moat]

glgl

[inland moon]

get to the end

[daring moat]

also reaching that already first attempt is also cracked wtf////

[inland moon]

you can do it

I got to ||sob|| and died my first attempt

you're alreadydoing way better than me

[daring moat]

mhm

iirc same place i died first time

all in all ||p5 took me 7? 8? attempts|| but a lot of time was spent doing ||absrad in hog||

[narrow gyro]

OMG || NKG MY BELOVED.. I WANNA DO THIS HITLESS (wont happen 🙄) i think thats my favorite boss followed by PV ||

[daring moat]

[narrow gyro]

|| what is sob short for again,, ||

[daring moat]

average new player favorites ahem i mean good for you

[inland moon]

||sisters of battle||

[narrow gyro]

LMAO

[inland moon]

||smelly collector gpz liker||

[daring moat]

smh that's the based list

[inland moon]

||sob + nkg peak||

[daring moat]

YRUER

||NKG IS A DAAAAAAAAAAANCEEEEEEEEEEEEEE||

RAHHHHHHHHHHH

[narrow gyro]

ds123, sekiro, elden ring and terraria || unironically carried me against radiance 😭 budget empress of light right there ||

[daring moat]

lmao

makes sense i suppose

[inland moon]

no he's not

[ionic flame]

Finally someone is this server who doesn’t hate terraria

[inland moon]

||grimm is||

[narrow gyro]

ahh right that was super fun, idk my reaction time is unreal rn 😭 gotta be the red bull but that fight was GREAT, so fast and fluid and fair idk

[inland moon]

||but nkg tells the dance to fuck off and just bum rushes you||

[narrow gyro]

|| i get gpz but collector? snoozefest ... ||

[daring moat]

it's... satire...

[daring moat]

wtf
yruer

[daring moat]

oh you sweet summer child

[narrow gyro]

the 50 million attemps of empress of light daytime made || radiance beams so easy LOL ||

[inland moon]

||collector more like midlector||

[narrow gyro]

WHYY

[daring moat]

wtf i like terraria

[narrow gyro]

EXPLAIN

[inland moon]

same

[ionic flame]

Nice

[inland moon]

no

[daring moat]

so you see, ||it's easy because you can oneshot the minions with a hit of your nail. what happens when you can't anymore ||

[narrow gyro]

well .

[daring moat]

well it quickly becomes the toughest boss in the game

[inland moon]

then you just dodge ||primal aspids||

[daring moat]

and it isnt even close

[ionic flame]

Have you never tried radiant collector?

[daring moat]

spoilerssssssss

[narrow gyro]

ok rematch i still got the whole fight in my blood theres no way i lose right right right right RIGHT i just stomped this guy in the ground 1-2 hours ago

[inland moon]

or do ||2 hits||

[daring moat]

gl

[narrow gyro]

hop

[inland moon]

WTF HOW

[narrow gyro]

ty this is so scary LOL but i think i got it down pretty good

[inland moon]

HOW DID YO GET HERE FIRST ATTEMPT

[daring moat]

you're fine

[daring moat]

tbf i know people who have ||beaten p5 first try so||

[inland moon]

yeah you already did it

[inland moon]

who

[daring moat]

i forgor
idk them well i just know about that achievement of theirs

shiro should be done by now

[narrow gyro]

uhm.. its gonna be as easy as the normal version right...

[daring moat]

cracked

if you clear this then

mad props

[inland moon]

WTF

[narrow gyro]

i mean ngl || pv took like.. 30 seconds? i got pure offensive setup and i practiced that guy for like 2-3 hours earlier 😭 ||

[sharp crystal]

Terraria is my life

[inland moon]

you're literally better than me wow

[narrow gyro]

so im really happy that i remembered everything

[daring moat]

[sharp crystal]

BRO HOW ARE U 112 NOW

[inland moon]

30 seconds

[daring moat]

melon learn from shiro smh

[inland moon]

...

[daring moat]

imagine struggling on bosses smh

[inland moon]

only past me can

[narrow gyro]

|| the attack speed charm, strength, mop, and the black dash thingy ||

[sharp crystal]

Weren't you like don't know basic things like 2 days ago?
@narrow gyro

[inland moon]

bruh

[narrow gyro]

perhaps

[inland moon]

well gl

beat it first try for me

so I can be impressed as hell

[narrow gyro]

ii died

[daring moat]

F

[narrow gyro]

uhm´,,

[daring moat]

expected, but that's still great

[daring moat]

[narrow gyro]

havent seen the sun in a week

[sharp crystal]

Ain't no way

[narrow gyro]

i feel like || my charm setup is horrible for the last boss lol ||

[sharp crystal]

What is it?

[daring moat]

perhaps

[narrow gyro]

but tis so good for || pv ||

[daring moat]

not particularly

[sharp crystal]

What's ur|| swtup||

[daring moat]

you're just used to it

[narrow gyro]

yeah probably

[sacred dove]

I love that build ngl

[sharp crystal]

Bro use s||haman stone|| 😭🙏

[daring moat]

🆙

[shut sparrow]

||sharp shadow and mark of pride are very bad for the last boss but the other two are great||

[daring moat]

sacrificing ||MoP may be painful, but well worth it ||

[sharp crystal]

Like remove ||quixk slash or mop|| and add s||haman stone||

[narrow gyro]

|| but sharp shadow literally solo carries me during pv tbh,,, i just dash thru like every move ||

[narrow gyro]

yeah i think its not needed but it feels so great..

[narrow gyro]

EVERYONE KEEPS SAYING THAT BUT IDK

[shut sparrow]

||it really isn't worth the notch cost. Try to get used to fighting him without it. It's never good to fully rely on a charm for a boss||

[narrow gyro]

|| i literally barely use any spells i know thats bad but idk 😭 ||

[sharp crystal]

🤬S||HAMMAN STONW LIL BRO||

[narrow gyro]

i know i know 😔

[sharp crystal]

||U have all ur spells shade type right?||

[narrow gyro]

yes

[sharp crystal]

THEN USE THEM 😭

U ARE LITERALLY MAKING THW GAME HARDER FOR URSELF FOR NO REASON

[narrow gyro]

only thing i used is || shriek for ngk and uh i think thats kinda it LOL i just use soul to always heal (where i can ofc) ||

[foggy inlet]

Fax

[sharp crystal]

D|| DARK IS A BETTER VERSION OF AHADOW DAHS BRO||

[foggy inlet]

Nah|| spell|| builds are surprisingly good

[daring moat]

calm down bruh

[sharp crystal]

😭🙏

[narrow gyro]

but i love || shadow dash thats my bestie ||

[shut sparrow]

||spell|| needs spoiler tags

[inland moon]

you just played the game for 10 hours a day

[narrow gyro]

i think im just used to melee in every game idk lol did it in all souls games aswell

[daring moat]

yeah use ||spells more, they are very op. shaman + ddark, fireball, or shriek are OP AF especially on absrad||

[inland moon]

that's a full time job

[narrow gyro]

yeah ^_^

[daring moat]

fair

[daring moat]

average gaming moment tbh

[inland moon]

nah I only play for 6

[narrow gyro]

yeah i can see a lot of || uses on radiance here,,, where is it in the HoG? I think that requries lots of practice LOL ||

[daring moat]

shiro do ||all bindings that would be so awesome and based ||

[inland moon]

yes do it

[daring moat]

right at the end on the top row

[inland moon]

that would be epic

[sharp crystal]

@narrow gyro listen if u don't want to use ||spells|| then don't come asking for help or anyshit lil bro 😭🙏

[narrow gyro]

if i ever ||do steel soul (i will 100% do that) i need spells i assume ||

[narrow gyro]

|| what pantheon,m,, ||

[inland moon]

you don't need them

[daring moat]

well, all of em

[narrow gyro]

i swear i think || p4 is by far my best pantheon cuz it took me so long ||

[inland moon]

bt you should 100% use them

[narrow gyro]

oh. now why would i do that.

[daring moat]

because it's fun

[narrow gyro]

😤

[narrow gyro]

im only slightly masochistic

[sharp crystal]

😭🙏

[inland moon]

no it's not

[daring moat]

wtf,,,,,

[inland moon]

not worth at all

[daring moat]

smh

[narrow gyro]

okii,, this is gonna take a bit

[daring moat]

ok at least do ||all bindings on specific bosses||

[inland moon]

I wasted 60 hours of my life and for what

shiny badges

[daring moat]

60 hours is not that much......

yeah i mean

[inland moon]

it is for hk

[daring moat]

what did playing games as a whole give you

[inland moon]

stfu

[narrow gyro]

depression

[inland moon]

lmfao

[remote jacinth]

Shiro have you done ||PoP|| yet?

[inland moon]

but seriously I think hk has actually improved my sense of direction so it wasn't completely useless

[narrow gyro]

no :3

[daring moat]

what the heck,,,

[inland moon]

dew it

[narrow gyro]

no :3

[sharp crystal]

Then do it

[inland moon]

fun

[daring moat]

it's like free

[narrow gyro]

im good ty everyone 🙏

[daring moat]

you should be able to do it in like an hour max

[scenic egret]

try playing a metroidvania that doesnt have a great and detailed map:33eline:

[inland moon]

it only takes 5 mins to get there

[remote jacinth]

I mean it's easier than ||P5|| imo

[sharp crystal]

As a Celeste player ||pop|| is genuinely normal

[daring moat]

smh

[narrow gyro]

i mean its something completely different

[daring moat]

true, but definitely easier

[sly rune]

Hi Fiablo.

[sharp crystal]

||P||1 took me more time than ||pop||

[daring moat]

hi jay

[narrow gyro]

idk if u were in chat when u saw me complaining about ||white palace, im not made for parkour i was close to ripping my hair out ||

[sharp crystal]

Hi jay

[inland moon]

me when the celeste player does the triple corkscrew backward fr*nch dash

[daring moat]

oh man what's ur toughest map clear in celeste

[sly rune]

Surely.

[daring moat]

[sly rune]

Nice edit.

[daring moat]

truly

[remote jacinth]

Maybe but you can do anything, as long as you put your mind to it and also have ||hiveblood||

[narrow gyro]

ah right i didnt have that when i did || wp ||

[sharp crystal]

I forgor

[scenic egret]

magma maelstrom

[daring moat]

wtf,,,,,,,,,,,

[scenic egret]

its only 3 rooms

[sharp crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/i-forgor-i-rember-i-have-two-sides-i-have-2-sides-gif-17600618941046169150

[daring moat]

only 3 insanely tough rooms smh

[narrow gyro]

but that first part is true tho, i only beat || colo 3 that early cuz i wanted it sooo badly ||

[inland moon]

what's so cool about celeste anyway

[daring moat]

erm everything??

[inland moon]

celeste looks kinda boring tbh

[sharp crystal]

Everyone everywhere everything

[sly rune]

"This is the hardest thing I ever saw."
For the same thing 2 seconds later:
"This is the easiest thing I ever saw."

[sharp crystal]

WOMP WOMP LIL BRO

[daring moat]

[remote jacinth]

And I definitely believe in you if you've gotten 112 an to ||p5|| so quickly

[inland moon]

shouldn't of said that should I

[daring moat]

says without playing it:

yruer

[sharp crystal]

Gay

😭🙏

[inland moon]

*trans

[sly rune]

Buddy you literally have "shoot colon three" in your name, I don't think you get a say in what is boring or not.

[daring moat]

[sharp crystal]

Translation 😺

[inland moon]

[narrow gyro]

:DD thankies, u believing means a lot

couldnt have done it without the super cool people here :DD

[sly rune]

Oh wait.

[daring moat]

shiro you should try out ||all bindings gpz and collector|| :3

[scenic egret]

i take full credit

[sly rune]

Maybe we should focus on helping first and celeste later.

[scenic egret]

maybe

[daring moat]

never

ok yeah we should

[sly rune]

Jesus Christ, dude.

[inland moon]

I will play celeste when I die (or someone gets it for me)

[narrow gyro]

nooo i shouldnt ^_^

[daring moat]

must get people to have based boss taste

[remote jacinth]

Those are literal hell

[inland moon]

those are your options

[daring moat]

yessss you should

[remote jacinth]

Honestly worse than ||radkoth|| IMO

[sharp crystal]

||Chat i did p5 all bindings 😭😭😭 (in my dreams)||

[sacred dove]

||Pure Vessel reminds me so much of NKG||

[sly rune]

||Collector|| is NOT based.

[daring moat]

erm yes it is

[inland moon]

true

[sly rune]

That's a new one.

[inland moon]

||collector kidnaps children||

not based

[sharp crystal]

Hey wondah of you what's the %2 u are messing rn?

[inland moon]

||p4 and colo 3||

[scenic egret]

feelspkman

[inland moon]

erm spoilers

[scenic egret]

[inland moon]

can't say emoji names

[daring moat]

true

[sacred dove]

I'm delaying ||Colo 3|| as much as possible and practicing ||PV for P4||

[inland moon]

lol

||colo 3 ezpz||

just use ||narts||

[scenic egret]

me when the bad help