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the fight pattern is basically ||dodge his attack, turn around and hit him after. like dash through the bats, then hit him. dodge the spikes, then dash to him and hit him. Id reccomend nailarts and to use a lot of spells cus they do a lot of burst dmg||
so use ||qs strength whatever grimmchild||
||personally I don't even approach during the bat attack personally||
why not?
what ||charms u got?||
||they're really hard to dodge when you approach, if you just stick to the ground far away from Grimm they usually go over your head||
i mean ||thk|| is ||the final boss (defo the real final boss)|| if ur struggling you could always get more upgrades, but for what u have rtn thats probably the best option
can you guys tell me which charms should i equip
personally i either ||jump in between the bats and dash slash him, or just dash to himand slap him||
||what charms u got?||
||Shaman Stone, Strength, Nail Master's Glory, Spell Twister||
every
what grev said
uhh ||shaman spell twistrer|| is your best bet
what can i do instead of ||breakable|| charm
Well ||strength doesn't break in the dream realm||
So like, you can use it
dang i already give it to a ||divine||
tags
i am such a dumbass
charm is not a tag
||breakable charm|| is

You can use ||mark of pride|| then
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@finite saddle my tips for ||nkg||:
Attack 1 (||dash uppercut||):
- ||shade dash through nkg||
- ||dash away from him (so, in the same direction that he dashes) and hit him twice before he does the uppercut||
- ||jump and pogo him during his dash, then optionally turn around and hit his back||
Attack 2 (||dive dash||):
||jump and pogo him while he's on the ground and dash away from the flames||
Attack 3 (||flame pillars||):
||there's a lot of ways to do a lot of damage during this attack, but if you're just starting i recommend walking at a moderate speed across the arena and upslashing once or twice when you pass under the boss||
Attack 4 (||fire bats||):
- ||stay on the other side of nkg and dodge the bats||
- ||jump, wings, and dash over the bats (i never use this strat so idk if it works)||
- ||jump and dash between the upper two bats and the lower two bats, if you time it right you should be able to hit him a couple times without him teleporting away||
Attack 5 (||cloak spines||):
||just dodge it||
Attack 6 (||pufferfish||):
||jump as low as possible and then "circle back", other ppl can explain this better||
i recommend using ||qs strength shaman grimmchild|| for your ||charms||
For attack 4 I know you can do that in the base fight but I'm pretty sure they go up too high for jumping to be consistent
if i ||overcharm|| will ||nkg|| deal 4 damage?
yes
Yes
damn
You realy don't want to go over the ||bats instead go through it||
okay
yeah that's what i recommended, i just left the option there because some people do that

Staying away and letting them go above is safer, but you don't get any hits in if you do that for all 4
its all about stress, if you get frustrated you dont win so stay calm while fighting him
Can't dance angry
yea cause i was trying to kill ||radiance|| for hours and couldn't do it but when i woke up today i did it first try
break buff is reeal
Cement is stronger when you let it set in
What is the build for ||grimm||? I have all ||charms and 9 notches||
do you have ||abyss shriek?||
Yea i have all ||abilities|| and all of them ||upgraded||
spaball go sleep it's 2am
||shaman stone soul catcher spell twister grimmchild|| imo
nah
||id win||
||shaman is so op||
for this build, basically just use exclusively ||nail arts||
It's hard to get the ||spell|| timing for that fight, even ||DD|| has the startup frames
you can pull off a ||great/dash slash on all of his attacks, and cyclone on the bats and drill||
The problem is that im taking a lot of damage while doing it
tag ||dd||
Im less of a ||nail arts|| player
I use them very rarely
sadge
then you could replace ||twister and catcher with steady body and quick slash||
At this point calling it that is hiding what it is more than the tag
go under ||grimm|| while hes doing the ||pufferfish attack||, hit him with the ||abyss shriek|| a few times and then hit him with your nail right before he teleports, this should get you in the next phase
he should do the ||pufferfish|| attack again so you need enough soul for the ||abyss shriek||
For now im using ||ss, qs, the plus two hearts one, and gc||
When i try to use the ||spell|| on him im taking like 5 hearts
suggesting cheeses is not cool
I use it because im taking lots of damage during the ||puffer fish stage when im using shriek||
||nkg is a such a scammer||
then use the ||dark vengeful spirit attack||, it should do enough damage
oh sorry
Oh ok
theyll become overreliant on the cheese and never get to experience the boss, and when they do a custom challenge that prevents usage of said cheese they will struggle
And what ab the next phase?
just use your nail, try to ||parry|| ||grimm|| when you can
i mean he has ||pure nail||, if he gets in more hits by parrying ||grimm|| he might end the fight a lot sooner
you can just hit him normally...
||Is the content from the updates only available after you beat the main game?||
Oh, ok
it's kind of hidden though so you may not immediately find it
||i felt something inside of me and i started destroying nkg but i was on 1 hp i am gonna cry||
||okay so i did all hollow knight boss endings how to do 2 other||
||can you show your charms and inventory||
||The five endings are killing the Hollow Knight, killing the Hollow Knight with void heart, killing the Radiance, beating the 5th Pantheon, and beating the 5th Pantheon after giving the Godseeker a delicate flower. You can only get locked out of the endings for beating the Hollow Knight without the void heart and beating P5 before giving Godseeker the flower.||
||Delicate Flower counts for Embrace the Void, but Sealed Siblings doesn't count for Hollow Knight||
is ||lake of unn just the snail that gives me a charm or is there more here??||
Nah that's it
||i locked myself out of normal endingš||
Good thing there's an achievement for beating the game under 5 hours, definitely the quickest

||where do i go after beating hornet. I also beat the big green bush dude. I think heās a mini boss in the green path place||
also ||i just unlocked the dream nail and 3 bosses showed up can i get to them right away??||
try going downward
without spoiling anything
not really but dont forget they exist either
just a general direction
Maybe, maybe not, depends what abilities you have
||im at the fungal wastes place||
Yes, depending on your skill level
yea go downward more
They are quite tough though,
btw ||just saying that doesnt really help though you can get that before beating yhe first boss||
To get to
Okay thanks
hmmm
i mean like i dont really see the way cuz i explored 2 of the areas to the full and i dont see an opening to get to em
oh yeah
oh nvm
then you just cannot get there yet
did i miss any major items anywhere here? not talking charms or fragments
oh my finally defeated ||Nkg||
yooo good job
that boss is a... nightmare
it was very easy ngl
not really
sorry for tags
once again the game is incredibly free so you can get a ton of stuff in different orders
and you will eventually have to come back to most if not all areas soon so
hey ismo can you tell me what does ||wise tree like mushrooms do in fungus?||
uh whar
yeye ik but im kind of lost right now im filling up whatever i can from || greenpath || and i also want to ||kill all the dream bosses so i gotta go the the graves and check every boss i fought yet so i upgrade my dream nail||
what exactly are you referring to\
well then yeah checking all incomplete areas in the map will tell you plaves you havent been to
oh ||nothing important really, but if you find him in several location he ends up giving an achievment if you care for those||
You have to have ||Spore Shrooms equipped|| to talk to him.
where is ||double jump ||guys i NEED it
try looking down
where down
Down

Is ||Pure Vessel|| harder than the ||Radiance||?
Prob
Ok
I got that ||grimm|| guy to 25% and got nervous:((
why doesnt he do the chill attack at 25 ||(flying bat so a player could heal)||
def not
General consensus is that it is harder
You could use the ||Form of Unn charm|| to heal during the ||bat-attack||
when i die to a ||dream|| boss in ||steel soul mode||, is the world also gone, or does the game make an exception there?
You not die
The game makes a exception
ok
There are two exceptions to the exception though
||Radiance?||
yes
I DID IT I BEAT ||GRIMM||!!!!
or you are noskill
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i was boutta type that then i thought they realized
shouldntve trusted the "im new here" people
How to beat post-||grimm|| ||troupe guys||?
||level 3 fire guys?||
yes
I would recommend equipping the ||sharp shadow charm||, and just wait till they dash into you
or just hit them
and wear a good ||charm||
can be tricky tho
yeah, that would help since he keeps his distance from you not your ||minions||

is this kit alr?
||never use longnail||
might as well use a ||lifeblood charm||
so you can tank a bit more
kk ty
||do you really need sharp shadow?||
Absolutely
harder than both?
Both what?
||fym never use longnail||
fym fym never use ||longnail||
||longnail is a decent charm?||
no
||Im having trouble beating p3. Idk why but for some reason im having way too much trouble with god tamer and some of the other bosses. I beat god tamer first try and didnt think about it again until p3 and now its really hard and idk why. Does anyone have any tips for that fight and just a good build for the whole of p3? Only difference between the image here and my charms rn os hiveblood but i dont think thats too usefull.||
It increases range by like nothing
||unbreakable strength quickslash shamans spell twister|| only build you'll ever need
||Thats basically the build im using i just dont have the last notch i should prob get it||
yes
||best 1 notch is grubsong though, unless you're a steady body stan||
||I use both but like grubsong better. Didnt expect grubsong to be that good when i first started playing but ive been prooved wrong||
That's great wdym
There's four
||grubsong, steady body, dreamwielder, nail master's glory||
||took off all my charms to put on a build for just running around and kinda forgot to put any on and now im just running around with nothing xD||
||what's the point of having 4 when you're using max 3||
i used ||nmg|| for ||nkg|| but thats it, i don't need it anymore though
? ||I'm not saying to use all four together, I'm saying all four of them are good||
i feel like ||nmg|| is subjective
It makes ||narts, which are already great, way better||
i prefer ||spells||
and upgrading ||spells|| only leaves space for better nail ||charms|| wich also upgrade ||narts||
I don't think they do, most of them at least
||narts are used by the nail||
||i forgot about quickslash||
oops
||strength doesn't effect narts, quickslash doesn't effect narts iirc, I don't know if steady body does or not but definitely not in a meaningful way||
||well that just sucks to be a nart||
because better ||charms|| don't do anything
btw this is help not general
so i'm ending this
Am I supposed to be able to beat || lost kin || when I see it?
All right. I just need to get better. Thanks!
No, cause you can encounter them really early. You might just need to gear up and come back later, cause they are considered one of their harder bosses
i forgot who ||lost kin|| was
i was thinking the regular guy
||Dream version of Broken Vessel||
I feel like I've hit it a lot of time. I only have one || nail upgrade || so it seems pretty tough
||broken vessel|| is the regular guy
Yes
get more stuff
Yeah come back later, this will be a difficult and grueling battle
one upgrade?
Yeah the || sharpened one || or whatever it's called
you need more
i should probably play the game again before i give more help
||How do I get Zote out of the cage in the Colosseum of Fools?||
||fight in the colloseum||
||Is there a specific trial I have to do?||
yes
but if you're there you can do it
||Which trial is it?||
1
Ok š thanks
Iām bored someone tell me what boss to ||rad||
what are the best charms for ||soul master?|| having a hard time with it
||first nail upgrade, 1 soul vessel, mantis claw and mothwing cloak||
||which charms do you have?||
||and how many notches||
only a few
I would recommend getting more for the fight
Do ||Stelwart shell, spell twister and soul collector||
||soul catcher and spell twister are your best ones. Try to remember using your vengeful spirit spell since it deals a lot of damage. If you feel you still struggle a lot then you might want to check out older areas again for more charms or upgrades. I especially recommend the forgotten crossroads for that matter||
||that costs 6 notches. They only have 5||
Sorry then just remove the ||shell i guess||
any suggestions of charms? ||i'm gonna look for the ones i have to buy, hence i got a lot of geos just by redoing and redoing :p||
||I don't want to mention any since just telling you the names won't help a whole lot and looking them up might spoil stuff. As I said there are some strong ones in crossroads. Especially charms that have to do with your spells or soul are strong early on||
have you guys really completed hollow knight on 112%?
i don't wanna see how strong ||grimm|| is in ||godhome||
||Roughly the same as in the overworld||
i hope you are right
have you completed hollow knight on ||112%||
Yes
how many hours?
75
nice
Or currently 150ish, but 75 when getting 112
Am I supposed to take the || dreamers / spirits glade || as just lore or is there something to it? it seems like it
||the spirits in spirits glade are just for dialogue. You can kill them but it doesn't really do anything||
||ghost i remember you're deam nal spirits for 1 essence||
lol. i just realized that I had two || pale ore || and didn't notice what it was for until now š
How do I ||get the binding icons for each pantheon to glow? I've completed all of 1 and 2, but they're all just brown. Do i have to do them all at once to make them glow?||
Yep
hoo boy
The only thing it does is give the visual effect so you can decide yourself if you find it worth
worth
Hello everyone, im trying to play some randomizer but i see in Skurry videos that in the top right corner are the most recent items you picked up, anyone knows how to enable that option?
Install the recentitemsdisplay mod
Thanks
Question the ||delicate flower person ||is gone and I was wondering where could I get another to get the ||gif master flower ended||
||Is it possible for someone who plays on PlayStation to download the Pale court Mod? I hear that Pale court is just basically a Hollow Knight DLC created by fans. Iād like to try it, but since I donāt have HK on steam/pc (I just donāt have a computer) idk if I can get it. I know that you can get mods for any game on PC since you download them straight to your pc. I was wondering if I can do that but for PlayStation ||
||check out the grave again where you brought the flower to||
Thank you
Mods don't exist for consoles sadly
Damn, that sucks. Looks like Iāll have to watch a playthrough of it then. Oh well. Maybe when I get the game on steam and get a computer Iāll be able to play it
Thanks for the help
Also everything from the game needs to be spoiler tagged in this channel ||(Pale court as well)||. You can spoiler tag messages by putting two vertical bars on each side || like this || so please edit your message
Yeah it sucks but there is still a lot of vanilla content so you won't really run out
no they are a symbol
|| Ik thereās a lot of content but I already got 112 and am working on pantheon 5 training stuff ||
|| I wanted to see what the invincibility glitch did and how it worked so I did it for P5 ||
Now I want to do it for real
||pantheon 5/P5|| needs spoiler tags as well. Good luck with it though 
Thanks. Iām new to the server so idk all the rules yet. Thanks for all the help
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i forgot how to do that mb
if u havent practiced it u cannot do it
itll be better to try to do it normally
||The pale kings corpse is in the white palace right?||
okay thanks
||If I accidentaly didn't get the one half of the kingsoul the first time through can I still get it?||
yes
yup
||...just died to collector||
||now i get to learn that stagger tech||
you cant get locked out of stuff like that
remember to use spoiler tags
ah sorry
and its way easier to learn the fight 'normally'
oh actually?
That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure before i went looking for it again
yes. the ||stagger requires using combos so the movement is very quick and precise ||
brilliant
its way easier to just learn ||using cyclone and fireball ||
||although if im doing p5ab is it worth learning? ill already have to learn things like absrad with AB||
and im fairly scared for ||markoth AB||
||I beat hornet and im on mantis lords now. Did I skip some bosses because I feel like I did||
nope. I think you're good
||Is there a way to get back into the throne room without actually going through the whole thing again if I already did it?||
Damn they really just threw me in the game then :/
lol. I just came back to that one a little bit later
I cna leave and progress without beating them?
Just died :/
no
youll have to redo most of it
aw. Okay
yes. They just give you a ||charm and some geo||
I think
Oh well I still gonna beat them because it feels personal when they hit me
lol. Good luck
4th death š
also sorry to bother you again @bright sorrel but this is it right? ||The first kingsoul half should be there?||
yes
You don't need to ping a specific person. Other people here can help too
sorry about that.
@ nonsenf can i get help, i need to stop pinging specific people for help
Sorry did you say something? I only see messages that ping me
Maybe I wacked the dude off it and just didnt collect the ||king soul half?||
in that case I guess I cant do it then.
Did you check in your inventory? Are you sure you don't have it?
You can't lock yourself out of that. If you left without it then it would still be there. It's also pretty difficult to leave without collecting it iirc
you have collected it
oh. Sorry I'm just stupid then.
you need to ||collect the white fragments to turn them into voidheart||

okay thankyou sm! I'm gonna go do something else then lol.
have fun!
||What are the 3 easiest mask shards to get before uumuu||
||Iām going dash, claw, city of tears crest entrance, crystal peaks, then uumuu||
since you have 108% i think youd know where all the ||shards|| are
also what is this for? ||Steel soul||?
||whoooo sceond room in pop not so hard so far||
||brooding mawlek, the one where you are supposed to use claw but can do a skip with vengefly, and all grubs of forgotten crossroads or buying from sly||
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actually you said before ||uumuu|| but what i just said its basically the beginning of the game
|| how do I get the lamination candle? Also what else is there to do in greenpath I beat hornet ||
||uh what candle?||
|| lumination mb my phone autocorrectes ||
is your game in another language
there's no such thing as "||lumination candle||"

|| idk the name imma be honest just any candle early game ||
well you can get it from ||someone you can find in forgotten crossroads||
|| k also what else is there to do in greenpath ||
and ||why do u want one? u just beat hornet it's not like you need one right now||
just explore the rest of it
there might still have some things to do if you didn't do yet
Messed that up
||I believe I explored the areas I can get to in my stage ||
hmm yeah you explored everything already there's nothing left then probably
|| there's some stuff but I can't reach it ||
that means its for later
once u find a way to reach it
|| idk about that one I haven't gotten anything like charms I've only gotten the cloak ||
because of this.
K thanks
wait
So which area should I explore
except here actually if its the place im thinking then u can just do it
|| it's the one with electric butterfly's ||
go to the next area now there's an entrance to reach it by ||fog canyon and forgotten crossroads||
yeah u can do it
|| I also have a lot of forgotten crossroads not explored ||
explore it then before going to the next area
|| I thought dog canyon was the next area? ||
it isn't
|| the entrance to the next area is through forgotten crossroads? The fungus thingy? ||
yes that
how did you do the spoiler thing again?
nvm
any ||charm builds|| for ||nightmare king grimm?||
you'll need to send a screenshot of your charms inventory so people know what you have, make sure its spoilered
everything
i have ||109% completion. i only need this boss, p3 and p4 for the 112||
||fragile or unbreakable charms?||
||unbreakable||
well firstly ||narts are pretty good for nkg and tmg so you can consider using nmg, but if you dont use narts that charm is obviously useless||
apart from that, ||strength, shaman, qslash, twister/catcher|| is always a good build
||grimm child||
oh yeah get rid of the last one
any tips for ||obblebobble?||
if you do happens to use ||narts then swap out qslash as well||
if you struggle with healing ||shape of unn can be pretty helpful and is only 2 notches||
||spam abyss shriek when theyre both together||
||whats narts||
šthey do the OBBLELBEOPBKLBELBOEBLE ATTACK AND I DIE
ASKDJALSDKAJSD
||nail arts, nmg refers to nail masters glory (or no major glitches if you speedrun)||
OBBBLEBOBBLEBELE
oooooh
what does ||kings brand do?||
it opens up a certain location
i have been playing this game for one month and 4 days... i dont know any of that
ok thx
well it's about talking to the community not playing
every ||nart is a % though?||
yeah ||greatslash is pretty good against nkg, and dashslash has its uses as well||, ultimately its a matter of preference
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OBOBOBOELLBOEBOBBLEOBLEOBEOBLEOLBLEOBLEOLBOEBO
||Baldur Shell sambo||
||defender's crest is better||
||and deep focus||
spoilers
||shit||
spoilers
||like so||
||help I can't defeat the Flukemarm||
If you don't have ||your nail upgraded twice|| it's difficult
||https://outplayed.tv/media/QPZVJ4||
||I BEAT IT OMG. 298 ATTEMPTS LOL||
I HATE THAT STUPID ||TRIAL||
||how do i get past here?||
||i think you might need to pogo off those spikes||
forgot this is hk help
|| is the gruz mother a early game boss ||
yeah
doesnt necessarily mean you have to do it early game tho
I did it lol
|| what's a good early game charm setup? I just beat green path and wanna go to the fungus area but idk a good charm setup||
||what charms do you have rn?||
||you donāt exactly have a lot of options in early game||
you dont have many options, i think, but for exploration just do|| wayward compass and soul catcher||
good ol vanilla flavor of ||charms||
sry
Mb for the late reply
|| I have spells dw lol ||
the current setup is probably best, but if you use ||spells|| a lot, go with ||shamans||
ok then
What is || overcharmed||
what seems like ||the maximum amount of charms you can wear might not necessarily be the maximum amount of charms you can wear||, but there will of course be drawbacks
if this is a first playthough ||compass and catcher are probably more useful to you than shaman stone||
|| I'll take it off then ||
|| I also just got the stone from saving grubs ||
Charm
||grubsong||?
Yeah
it is a pretty good charm but ||compass and catcher|| will probably do you better
I'm very early game btw
Well, you can get some by ||going to a map that's fairly crowded and kill everything there, then sit on a bench and repeat the process, but honestly you can just keep moving forward and you'll get some more geo along the way||
try farming the ||husk guard outside of false knight||
i find thats the most reliable way to get lots of ||geo||
also does ||geo really count as a spoiler? its one of the first things a player encounters||
read the pins
oh ok
True, very early game can work, but imo he doesn't need it that much rn since he can just keep moving forward and he'll get enough geo during the adventure
bcs ppl were putting the spoiler bar-thing on geo so
fair enough
but assuming he wants lots of geo fast, say, to spend on ||leg eater||
and im not sure its easy to earn hundreds of geo just traveling
Tag that btw, we don't know if he reached that point yet
at max assuming he doesnt kill *everything * on his travels that he sees
maybe 25-50 geo earnt?
its early game so enemies dont drop a lot
Considering the charms he has, he's at ||greenpath|| already, so he's able to get some decent amounts there and in the next area
yeah but the enemies still dont drop a whole lot even in ||greenpath||
R-e-m-e-m-b-e-r t-a-g-s please :)
Anyways, even tho he should just move forward and he'll get what he needs at the right time, he just has to explore
sry for tags
Dw, just gotta keep it in mind n.n
ok
spoiler tags
also this channel is meant for asking for help
Oh sorry agin
||how do i defeat the mantis i struggle on them|| not the boss btw
alr did
oh just pogo on them
they'll sometimes strike up
but if you do pogos before they can attack ur fine probably
im at 89 geo rn i need atleast 500 im broke
if ur not able to pogo
i can just not consistently
||husk guard||
k
||usually the mantis strikes faster than my nail||
hm
||try spells||
if you dont have soul
then just attack and go back really quickly
||also whats the point of fungul wastes? i assume its to defeat the mantis tribe and get a sepcial item|| but there isnt a clear main boss
same way you'd fight a ||moss knight||
k
||the point of any area in hk is to get an ability and.. idk skill? but mainly the ability||
and access to the next area of course
general metroidvania stuff
||i see is fungul meant to be quick tho? cause ive been in the area of 20 minutes and have alr found the tribe all i need to do is defeat them||
where'd you approach the area from?
crossroads
seems huge on the map
although i alr almost completed it
the main route i mean
i se
lots of cool secrets there tho
YO BET
but overall i think its on the smaller side, the main route
the only reason it took long for me was bcs the area screwed with my navigation sense
this why ||cornifer ||the goat
thats the point
idk if we tag him or not
i couldnt find him for most of it
its an npc so yea i think so
I just used guides š
ok then
and then blind run the rest
ok then
yea dude just go on with the area then, to my knowledge most of the ||mantises|| you can just|| dash|| over
appreciate it imma just go on the look for charms or items
like? i believe i have one or 2
which ones
what it do tho
not sure dont remember
ok then
yea its pretty good
Dont use ||thorns||
Cuz I found one in || queens||
Don't have any other tho
It ||is worse using it than not||
if he doesnt have another one notch its fine
How do?
So it is better to literally stay with ||an empty notch||
im not sure abt that
||thorns ||is fine
||other than the damage being bad, thorns actually removes iframes from your getting hit animation which is really dangerous and can lead to losing hp more quickly||
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The small ||damage dealt is not worth it for losing i frames||
however to my knowledge
||thorns ||does knock enemies back
so for normal enemies its ok
||Any extra damage is good damage but would getting rid of the hit effect make it better so I can cram in more attacks?||
for bosses, less so
Tags, ||im pretty sure it doesnt, and if it did 90% of enemies cant be knockbacked||
Yes
Losing iframes seems like something small but it really makes a difference
Also ||projectiles too||
most enemies can, what
Thats a good idea
and i agree with this as well, any extra damage is good
But anything else would work better really
still a good idea tho
its better than nothing
|| I just beat a mini boss with and without and I didn't notice a difference infact it felt easier with thorns||
But yeah extra damage is good but dont forget that raw damage wont be able to carry you alone, whats the point of having a tiny bit more damage when its downsides are this big
||If u are sure it's horrible I'll take it off and get more notches ||
how much damage does|| thorns ||do?
|| I'm very early game a nail hit can make a big difference ||
||Are u sure it's uterdogshit? ||
Yeah, but also ||oframes can make a really big difference||
but for enemies that die in 3 hits or so
|| again I tried a boss with it and I didn't notice a difference||
its pretty good
So for bosses it's ass
boss fights tho
It has some uses very very early on, but falls off incredibly hard quickly and the downside can be bit much at times
I see
he is very early on tho
Yes, and
Its still useful to explain flaws that they might want to take care of when its possible to
|| I don't see it getting rid off iframes ||
Sadly team cherry sucks at balancing charms so its incredibly easy to build a lot of bad habits just from them alone
Id give some more bigger examples but youre too early on for that
ye ofc
agreed
|| so I should just get more slots and then put on shaman or lifeblood?||
Sure
yes
Mb
||Is lifeblood good?||
its ok
Also I seriously don't notice a difference man
||what does it do||
I've started trying to work on ||bindings for pantheons|| but I'm having trouble doing ||charmless Oro and Mato|| I can get through ||Oro|| easily enough but once both come into play it becomes much more difficult. Any tips?
Is || fragile heart or fragile greed worth it?||
||d dark||
imo i'd say so, but its up to you
Or || would lifeblood be better||
I like to get ||greed|| first then use it to get money for the other two (why did I say love? it's not that deep)
oh then easily ||fragile heart||
||lifeblood < heart any day||
That's odd ngl but I'll try
||greed doesnt help with bosses but if you wanna max out geo collection||
No idea why I said love at first lol. I did find that particular one to work better though
I use ||d dark|| when I can but I get overwhelmed when both of them are spamming attacks at me. Anything else or just practice?
Is || strength good?||
|| cuz what I wanna run is catcher wayward shaman and heart or strength||
Why is it || fragile || then š
||strength over shaman i think||
Why not both
||strength is rlly good but if you have trouble with not dying then uh yeah||
bcs balancing
K
|| catcher wayward shaman and strength good?||
||but also greed exists soooo||
Or || catcher wayward strength heart?||
i'd say use ||shaman||, its better early game
Why not both
Is there a major drawback?
they're both 6
Oh nvm I'm stupid
*3
Not enough notches
oh i didnt know how many ||charm notches|| u had
No I have 6
hes early game
kk
I just got into || fungal||
if u have to use ||compass|| i suggest ||catcher and shaman||
I||s strength bad for early?||
no its pretty much op all stages of the game
but in my opinion ||shaman|| is better early game
its much better later on tho, for reasons i wont say
K
not many ||spells ||tho
Tags lmao
what would i tag tho
|| I only uses spells for bosses tho ||
Idk they just want us to trg anything later on
I'll try both in a mini boss and then decide
||u dont need to rlly fight enemies outside bosses u can just jump over them lol||
fair enough
unless ur grinding geo
dont die lol
I am I'm a broke bog
explore
youve gotten most of the ones you can get, just continue progressing for now
I alr got 1 from a. Boss
I'll just buy them
Gotta get rich
a lot of them are from ||charm shop|| but u need enough charms in the first place
so ya
u can buy some of them from the shop tho
which would be enough for one ||notch||
or a couple at the least
yeah ig
should probably spoiler this
||If you die during a dream boss in steel soul do you Actually die?||
Why they won't understand until they later in the game and if the later in the game they don't need a spoiler
I'll just do it
||you only lose it if you would spawn a shade normally||
thank you
alright
not necessarily
for ||dream bosses|| this is true, but not for ||white palace||
rip
||white palace doesn't spawn a shade tho||
true
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I like to give a few minutes after pinging before mod ping
i mean u can if you want
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Good job
Dann I havenāt seen mods do things so slowly
Not wrong but Iām surprised
They usually react within 2 mins cuz thereās a few on at all times
Yea
||do bindings on pantheons||
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what do i gain from doing ||path of pain||
also if i get rid of the ||grimm trouppe||, it gives me a charm right? but if i alr have ||all charms||, how does that work?
||It replaces Grimm child||
||Lore (I think)||
hello! i am currently in ||fungal wastes|| and i canāt get past ||the bouncy purple mushrooms||. so far, iāve just tried ||bouncing on the mushrooms|| and ||dashing across to the other side|| and it has only worked once. can anyone suggest a better way to do it? thanks!
||Try hitting downwards after bouncing on one||
ok, thank you!
Youāre welcome
the most minimal amount of ||lore|| possible
and bragging rights
yooooo
lol yeah
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How do the hell do I do it
you need to use these ||
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||like this||
Can someone give me some tips and tricks on how to beat ||failed champion||
what specifically are you struggling with
I have || every spell and upgraded||
can you get him to the first stagger
that would be good
Im using || void heart,quick slash,unbreakable strength,mark of pride grubsong and wayward compass||
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Im using that loudout
do you have all charms
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I have || 29 out of 40 I think||
obviously the best charm otso 
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you want to be using ||qslash, strength, shaman, and twister for the cheese||
Im playing on ps5
for the cheese itself
hold on let me find the wall
Wait first Iām going to get him
can't find it I'll explain
how to ||path of pain? this is suffering at it's purest form i'm stuck at the falldown place with the saws i die everytime||
||use deep focus and grubsong for basically infinite healing||
||what's deep focus?||
Or ||bloodhive||
ye I use that
Like || QuickFocus but itvheals slower but double||
oo sounds nice imma grind for it when i finish this bs
Itās in || crystal peak where you get to the elevator||
||path of pain really deserves it's name this is a torture haha||
Tell
Me about it
||does it even give smth interesting? like completion % or items ...||
so for ||failed champion cheese you want to stagger him once. then dreamnail him and hit his back without hitting his head until you reach full soul. when you get to full soul you can hit his head. after that use abyss shriek while he jumps three times which will leave him at low hp so yo can stagger him again. repeat this until you win|| @terse kernel
Nah lol only a ||cutscene||
Nice Iāll try
love to hear that but i'm too far in (spent 1h on the first part) can't stop now
gives ||journal entry|| and bragging rights
damn
||pop really is that hard? ||
||do I even get a second place where ill respawn in ?||
it took me about 90 mins
just don't die and you won't have to restart it
wait for ||hiveblood||
hm sounds bout right
also infinite ||soul totems||
I don't talk bout ||bench||
I talk bout platforms i'll respawn in when I take spike damage or sum like that
yes
phew
if you get far enough you will get a new spot
i was gonna go crazy if no
it would be cruel to make you do it all at once
how far is far enough?
Why is he so hardš
get through past the thorns and you'll get a new spot
he's pretty easy once you gt used to him
got through and got fked by saw
just always be ready to jump
I always run into him and take double damage
that means you can get through
Painš
you'll get there
Indeed
why do you have new knight but discord doesn't say you're new :thonk:
I got here what now?
cuz i joined before and left ;p
go down and ||pogo the saws||
What do I do when I need to heal?
FUCKING HELL
||I need that cutscene even if I had to die to get it i'll fucking get it||
||youtube||
I would recommend against youtube anyway
Wait so if I hit his back with my nail it resets the time when he comes up?
yes
gotta love jank
who tf is jank??
jank deez ballz
...
Breh

can anyone send me a ||hall of gods|| list?
Yo guys ttl I got food
hollowknight.wiki
i don't have couple of them how can i achive them?
progress through the ||pantheons||
oh ok
GOT TO THE PLATFORM
haha true
got to the 2nd one
first 1 was just evil
why they gotta make first one harder than em all
got to 3rd one :D
this is pain
you just weren't used to it yet
Is there anything important behind the door in ||Godhome|| that you unlock with completing all the ||bindings|| from ||pantheons||?
it's helpful but not necessary
what is there?
if you must know ||it gives lifeblood in rest rooms||
ok, thx
it gives 5 at max
now tell me wtf do I need to do rn? please
you're speeding through this
I DID IT
GG
EVRY ||dream boss and finally 2400 essence!||
Itās not that hard
ik
Just ||kill evry dream boss and warrior graves||
Alr one dlc done
Damn they takin me in a 2v1?
OH MY GODš || SHE JUST DISSAPIERD||
Nice GG!
Idk
||the cutscene is after a... unique part||
you'll know when
I finally beated him and got you know what
||I saw a cutscene of me and pale king disappearing||
gg
that's the end
Congrats man
k
how did you get through so quick lmao
Hardest achivment in the game
not quite 
i mean it took me an hour before this lol
there's harder?
nah I quit fuck this
there can't be smth harder
it's not that bad
Prob || platinum on ps or 112%||
if you want I'll tell you how long it took
tell what it is so I don't approach it ever
i mean ima ||112% so I think imma need it haha||
Maybe get all ||grubs or maybe all hunter notes||
oh ye that gotta be pain
Which one?
both
