hk-help

[wild token]

Oh no

[bold shale]

also im going back to trying to beat NKG

any tips ?

[rapid lion]

ok bye

[wild token]

r u serious rn

[viscid heart]

its best you still spoiler tag that

[wanton glacier]

||isnt nkg just regular grimm but, faster? and with more fire?||

[wild token]

nevermind i lured my soul away

[viscid heart]

just learning the boss in general i guess, any particular attack you struggle on?

[wild token]

nice

[viscid heart]

double damage too

[bold shale]

the fire dash mainly

[wanton glacier]

ugh, i hate it when enemies do double damage

[rapid lion]

||in my first run i us the charm from dung defender to beat him with no hits||

[viscid heart]

the ||dive then dash?||

[bold shale]

yes

& fast pufferfish

[wanton glacier]

its a stab in the pride to hear that really loud double damage noise

[viscid heart]

just|| double jump then dash to the opposite direction that he is dashing towards. you can pogo if you feel confident enough i think||

[bold shale]

also nobody tell me to go for the ||banishment|| ending

i locked myself out of it

[viscid heart]

just the same as the ||TMG fight. i dont have many tips for that||

[bold shale]

ok

[frigid nacelle]

how to get this one

[bold shale]

there s a divanle floor

[viscid heart]

||cdash on the top of the wall||

[rapid lion]

||If we use mods it can cancel the achievement because I want to use Rick's skin||

i never used mods but i found link to dowload scarab and i wanr use custom knight

[frigid nacelle]

||cdash ? ||

[drowsy citrus]

Why! why!! why!!!! did team cherry give ||nosk ||wings jxt started my first ||p5|| playthrough and was so shocked at the sight of ||winged nosk|| that I died without realizing it any tips?

[viscid heart]

||crystal heart||

[meager thistle]

The fight is almost identical to ||vengefly king, just without the little vengefly summons and with some blobs. Biggest advice is practice it in hall of gods, the fight is unlocked there after you reach it in p5 for the first time so you can practice as much as you need||

[spare hawk]

||what do I do after quirill i forgot how to spell his name. Gives his mask to the dreamer?||

[undone flume]

#modding-discussion is better

[undone flume]

just keep talking

[spare hawk]

Huh?

[undone flume]

pay attention to his dialogue

[spare hawk]

I’m dumb I’m not getting anything from it

[slender mural]

||Dream Nail the dreamer||

[spare hawk]

Oh that makes sense

[slender mural]

You do that for all three

||Monomon just had extra defenses, which is why quirrel used his mask||

[spare hawk]

||quirrel is the goat||

[bold shale]

guys can i get tips for ||NKG|| ?

[void quarry]

What do you need help with?

The attacks or something else

[wicked kelp]

can someone help me i need alot of geo how can i ge tthem

[chrome shale]

||depends on what specifically you need help with but heres a few tips for each move: ||
||when he does his move where he flies up and flames come down, stay right next to him (but not too close of course) and the flames will avoid you.||
||on his move where he dashes and flames come from behind him, go into the air and pogo his head while he comes down; dont forget to double jump if you need to. ||
||on his spike floor attack, look very quickly for a spot to stand, you probably will not need to move at all. you can quickly heal during this.||
|| when he shoots flames from the ground, move VERY slowly across the ground, barely avoiding the flame, and in between each, you can upslash him. you can also wait until the 4th pillar is gone and heal. ||
||when he shoots fire bats go right in between each by dashing (you can also just jump over the first one iirc?) from here you can shoot him with a fireball, hit him or just heal right next to him.||
||for the pufferfish attack, its pretty easy, just pay attention to the pattern and jump accordingly haha. but if theres anything you specifically struggle on just ask and ill try to expand on that||

[wicked kelp]

GREAT YAP OF THE YAPPINGTONS

[chrome shale]

real 🗣️

[wicked kelp]

atleast put subway surfers under it

[chrome shale]

there u go

[wicked kelp]

I GOT UR ATTENTION NOW! so how can i get alot of geo

[chrome shale]

do you have access to ||a white "snowy" place yet? or an orange place which was once blue?||

[inland moon]

what does your map look like

[wicked kelp]

nur

[chrome shale]

dang

[wicked kelp]

how do i tel u

[chrome shale]

take screnshot

[wicked kelp]

whats it called??

[inland moon]

send a screenshot

[chrome shale]

youll find out

[inland moon]

also why do evven need geo

[wicked kelp]

uprade!

[wicked kelp]

im getting my cheeks spread by ||hornet 2||

so i need to ||upgrade|| and get better ||charms||

[chrome shale]

||oh so you already found kingdoms edge lol||

[inland moon]

I think your best bet is looking around ||deepnest|| for a certain item

[chrome shale]

grind || little hoppers||

[wicked kelp]

i kept getting lost so i left

[inland moon]

oh wait

[wicked kelp]

bro i need a shit ton of geo

[inland moon]

just grind ||hoppers||

or go up in ||edge||

[wicked kelp]

bro im not there anymore

[inland moon]

go back

[wicked kelp]

i dont wanna

i dont even have a map there ill get lost

[chrome shale]

||if you have a certain charm which gives u more geo, grinding hoppers is very worth for moneys||

[wicked kelp]

it broke :(

[inland moon]

do you want map location?

[wicked kelp]

thats not gonna help me

[chrome shale]

repair

[wicked kelp]

too broke

[inland moon]

well just grind them

and you can find your way back eventually

or send a picture here

[chrome shale]

||the map for kingdoms edge is in the first room, cornifer is slightly below the entrance ||

[wicked kelp]

IM BROKE AS SHITTTT

THE MAP GUY IS TOO GREEDYYYY

[chrome shale]

how much geo do u have bro

[inland moon]

it's only ||112||

that's chaep af

[wicked kelp]

0 😈

[chrome shale]

did you die

[inland moon]

if you're really struggling go kill ||husk sentries in the platform room in city||

[wicked kelp]

yes by the kamikaze shitheads and then i lost my 457 geo to the ||primial aspid||

[wicked kelp]

bub i need big and quick moners

[chrome shale]

jajaja

[wicked kelp]

fuakkakakkaaka u

[chrome shale]

||kill fat guys in crossroads?||

[inland moon]

send your ||city|| map

[wicked kelp]

ok my pookie wookie!?

[chrome shale]

[wicked kelp]

@inland moon

[thick wing]

🔦

[inland moon]

ok do you have any ||relics?||

[wicked kelp]

ITS BECAUSE OF STEAM

[wicked kelp]

yeah i do!

[inland moon]

go sell them

[thick wing]

Also go get the ||vendor pin|| smh

[chrome shale]

you can also go to ||grubfather ||too

[wicked kelp]

where

[inland moon]

up here

[chrome shale]

like here or something

[wicked kelp]

is bro on the spectrum

[inland moon]

also absolute brih moment

[thick wing]

brih true

[chrome shale]

dang brih

[wicked kelp]

thank u pooker wooker

[chrome shale]

ok floofer

[wicked kelp]

i can finally stop being in the great depression!

[inland moon]

how did you not find him lmao

[wicked kelp]

hushhhh

its always i need geo but never hows geo

[chrome shale]

i legit have 300k geo on my main save file, i think geo is doing fine

[thick wing]

Oh wait ||I have my glass steel save still||

Forgot about that

[chrome shale]

[wicked kelp]

soo where do i find the ||forge guy||

[chrome shale]

bruh theres literally a symbol for him on the map

[thick wing]

||bottom left corner lol||

[wicked kelp]

hhhhhhh which one is it

a thank u!

[chrome shale]

ignore the first circle i was too lazy to take another screnshot

yea

[teal pawn]

whats with the ultra low brightness of your map

[thick wing]

steam

☕

[wicked kelp]

what in the sigma is a ||pale ore||\

[scarlet hull]

epic games

[chrome shale]

its used to ||upgrade ur weapon||, Just Like Real Life!

[scarlet hull]

tags

[chrome shale]

take an ore to a homeless guy irl and he'll replace your teeth

[wicked kelp]

where finder winder

[scarlet hull]

bro kark

u changed ur pfp 😭

[chrome shale]

||various places around hallownest||

[scarlet hull]

@undone flume

[wicked kelp]

point it out

murmurmurmurmurmur/

[undone flume]

what?

[scarlet hull]

u changed ur pfp to my old one 😭

[chrome shale]

||theres one in crystal peak, one in deepnest, and one at grubfather, i cant say much more due to spoilerz tho ||

[wicked kelp]

zank u

[chrome shale]

[loud grail]

||help I'm stuck in the spiderweb (deepnest) I keep pressing the attack button but nothing is working :(||

[teal pawn]

just try spamming buttons

[loud grail]

||I take it back I'm just dumb||

[thick wing]

🤯

[wicked kelp]

bro ||forgotton crossroads|| is so depressing

bro where can i find ||pale ore||

[teal pawn]

just keep exploring

your first ||nail upgrade|| doesnt even need it

[thick wing]

||pantheon 5||

what charms should I use

[teal pawn]

you have all charms?

[thick wing]

yeah

[teal pawn]

the normal ||quickslash + strength + shaman + twister|| is always a solid combo

[thick wing]

ok

[teal pawn]

if you dont use ||spells|| much you can swap out ||shaman and twister for stuff like quick focus + grubsong + steady body|| or something like that

[wicked kelp]

its my second pal

[thick wing]

k

[teal pawn]

then the normal build is probably fine

[chrome shale]

its nostalgic

[teal pawn]

if you keep exploring, and trying to find hidden areas you'll eventually find some

[wicked kelp]

your so lame

[teal pawn]

there is one that is behind a boss

[wicked kelp]

LAME ALERT BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

[teal pawn]

im right

[wicked kelp]

since u wanna be so LAME im gonna go watch a tutorial

[neat karma]

Theres no need to rush them rn, everything at its time imo

[neat karma]

But if youre that impatient you shouldve shared your map anyways

[wicked kelp]

bro im underprepared

[neat karma]

For?

[teal pawn]

for what

[wicked kelp]

||hornet 2||

[neat karma]

What if its something you simply arent meant to do yrt

[neat karma]

Well if you want the.

[chrome shale]

||shes beatable with low equipment if you persist enough||

[neat karma]

Share your map

[neat karma]

But not recommended

[wicked kelp]

i dont want to deal with that spike warrior

[chrome shale]

fr

[teal pawn]

spoiler

[chrome shale]

||try other things before her first, maybe youll forget about her while getting all kinds of upgrades then you can go back later when you remember her||

[neat karma]

The img wasnt tagged lol

[wicked kelp]

oops

[neat karma]

I agree but if youre that impatient: ||deepnest||

[wicked kelp]

i have been doing|| hornet|| for 5 hours

[neat karma]

Then try something else?

[wicked kelp]

ion wanna do this shit no more

[chrome shale]

go explore other placessss

[teal pawn]

theres a ton of other places to explore

[viscid heart]

then dont and come back later

[wicked kelp]

I FUCKING DID

I EXPLORED EVERYTHING IT JUST LED ME TO THE SAME PLACE

[teal pawn]

you didnt explore the whole map clearly

[wicked kelp]

I EXPLORED ||FUNGAL WASTE CRYSTAL PEAK|| THE ENTIRE ||CROSSRAODS||

I DIDNT FIND SHIT

[neat karma]

This is not true you can go to a ton of places but if you want to: once again, ||deepnest||

[neat light]

then explore harder

[viscid heart]

explore ||city of tears, cuz you misses alot||

[wicked kelp]

DO U WANT ME TO PULL AREAS OUT MY ASS?

[teal pawn]

there is a lot of stuff you missed

[neat light]

this game has like ||11 areas||

[neat light]

so yesnt

[chrome shale]

[bold shale]

hi guys

can someone help me with ||NKG|| ?

i need advice

[teal pawn]

how did you do both of the donts

what do you need help with

[bold shale]

im mainly struggling with the ||pufferfish||

[teal pawn]

spoiler

[bold shale]

i can often stagger him once

[teal pawn]

||pufferfish|| should be tagged

[teal pawn]

do you stand in one spot and just jump?

[bold shale]

no

[teal pawn]

yeah you should be moving left and right to give you more time to avoid projectiles

[granite isle]

bro you just a bad looker then 😂😂

[teal pawn]

there isnt really more tips to that attack than that though

[neat light]

if you played touhou its easy (i dont play touhou)

[granite isle]

go to the far side of the wall and start jumping over the ||flaming balls||

[bold shale]

ok

[dense monolith]

Do I ask stuff here if I have trouble with stuff?

[teal pawn]

i think thats what help is for yes

[dense monolith]

I need help with ||pantheon 3|| 💀

[teal pawn]

spoiler

[teal pawn]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[dense monolith]

That good?

[teal pawn]

yeah

[dense monolith]

ok

[teal pawn]

what are you struggling with in particular

[dense monolith]

im struggling with ||zote, and uumuu || I always leave those fights with really low health and then I start fighting ||hornet 2|| with like 3-4 masks

[teal pawn]

ah i see

you activated ||zote||

[dense monolith]

It’s my main save file

[quasi ibex]

could someone help me out, i just started the game and am already lost and just dying a loit

[dense monolith]

Where are you in the game rn

[teal pawn]

with ||uumuu|| i would recommend staying grounded and upslashing, ||shade dash|| if you think he's coming in too fast or at too much of an angle to deflect

spoiler

send your inventory and map

[quasi ibex]

uh hold on let me figure out how to take a screenshot

[teal pawn]

please spoiler tag this message

spoiler

[dense monolith]

Huh

[granite isle]

tag it

[grizzled lily]

Whar

Fellas… literally the first thing in the game

[teal pawn]

its a spoiler

spoiler tag it

also its not the first

[granite isle]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[inland moon]

no ||kp|| is

[granite isle]

i'll report you

[slender mural]

Any content in the game that isn’t the most basic of basic that all metroidvanias have is a spoiler

[granite isle]

tag it

[grizzled lily]

It literally is the most basic of basic tho

[slender mural]

Give him 5 minutes

[teal pawn]

did you delete it or was that a mod

[granite isle]

doesn't mater

[grizzled lily]

Me

[teal pawn]

why do people delete messages instead of editing them

[slender mural]

It’s a name, not something that every Metroidvania shares

[inland moon]

wow crazy all metriodvanias have ||crossroads||

never knew that

[grizzled lily]

Die standing than live kneeling

[granite isle]

ikr lol

[teal pawn]

deleting a message rather than editing it does not make you cooler

[inland moon]

ok edgelord

[neat light]

Wow all metroidmanias have money never thought of that

[inland moon]

they don't all

[granite isle]

i'm reporting you
you refused to edit a message after several warnings

[slender mural]

Most games in general do

[neat light]

ikr

[granite isle]

i'm reporting you
you refused to edit a message after several warnings

[teal pawn]

he deleted it its fine

[granite isle]

oh he did?

[grizzled lily]

Its gone grow up holy

[teal pawn]

he did a while ago

[granite isle]

oops lol

[neat light]

i really dont get this strict spoiler tag thing but ig i gotta live with it

[teal pawn]

also if you mean a discord report that isnt really what the feature is made for...

[inland moon]

I think the policy is @ mods after 20 mins

[granite isle]

i wasn't gonna report him.....:>

[teal pawn]

yeah ping a mod if they refuse to edit or delete it after a while

[bright sorrel]

people want to ask for help without risking getting stuff spoiled

[teal pawn]

some people come in here before even buying the game...

i dont understand tbh but it is what it is

[quasi ibex]

i cant figure out how to take a screenshot

[undone flume]

pro tip: next time you argue spoiler rules, try to come up with exactly what is a spoiler and what isnt, so make the rules yourself. then see how hard it is

[neat light]

i know and thats great i just dont get why you have to tag ||geo||

[inland moon]

window shift s

[grizzled lily]

Use a phone camera if you have to

[teal pawn]

you dont

[inland moon]

idk on console

[bright sorrel]

[granite isle]

you kinda dumb for saying that lol

[inland moon]

read the pins

[bright sorrel]

there is no need for that

[teal pawn]

^

[bright sorrel]

(the pins explain more in depth)

[neat light]

all i see in the pins is just them saying not to spoil stuff

?tags

[dense monolith]

[quasi ibex]

i dont think its working

[languid radish]

🔹 Spoiler tags are mandatory in https://discord.com/channels/283467363729408000/349116318865424384 in order to prevent newer players from getting spoiled by help that was given to more advanced players. It’s not recommended to click tags not specifically meant for you - you never know what they contain.
🔹 Please see the pinned messages to see what is allowed and what is not
🔹 A large amount of players do not watch trailers or check achievements before playing, thus content in trailers, Steam page, achievement names, etc. is still considered a spoiler.

[undone flume]

what type of laptop/computer are you on?

[quasi ibex]

a windows computer

[undone flume]

do you have a "prt sc" key?

[quasi ibex]

i think so yeah

[undone flume]

yeah just press that

[granite isle]

he was being a numbskull so i said what needed to be said

[bright sorrel]

u dont need to ping me for that, and no they werent

not rly a discussion that needs to be had anyway

[neat light]

ive literally never seen this spoiler tag thing before on any server what am i supposed to do

[granite isle]

okay "aneeka" what ever you say

[undone flume]

[quasi ibex]

ok i think i have a photo how do i send it without spoiling people me thinks?

[undone flume]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[quasi ibex]

yeah but how do i make it not spoiler

oh i see the image showed it ty

[neat karma]

Theres no need to be rude

[neat karma]

I thonk think theres a set one but like 10 minutes is fine id say

[granite isle]

quit yapping bruv

also idc
i did not have a good day

[neat light]

ok

[quasi ibex]

I've been dying to the left of this location a lot ,-, idk where the game wants me to go

[slender mural]

Left

[neat light]

i love starting a new file

[quasi ibex]

this is my first time playing i was recommended this game by a friend

so im very confused but i like how pretty it looks

[neat light]

ik i just felt the need to say that

Its gonna get better trust me

[lean drum]

local man runs ban% nmg

[neat light]

Once you find your way the game opens up a lot

[slender mural]

||Go left until you reach a very tall room with flies, then drop down||

[quasi ibex]

,-, i keep dying in that 😦

[slender mural]

There is no fall damage in this game, so just drop to the bottom

[lean drum]

Heres a tip: you can use your nail to hit the little guys

Incase you are in a picke

[quasi ibex]

ooh i made it past them ,-, im not very good at combat in games

[quasi ibex]

||I found a fella who wants rocks for a map||

[slender mural]

Do it

Good purchase

[quasi ibex]

i do not have the ||rocks|| how do i get them u-u

[slender mural]

Kill bugs

You have 4 way directional attacks based on which way your looking

So you can swing up

[quasi ibex]

😮

i didnt know that

[neat light]

Pro tip:if you swing down on spikes or enemies you get a boost of height up

[slender mural]

Same goes for down, but you have to be airborne to do that

[quasi ibex]

that sounds very cool ill be right back my tooth is hurting TwT

I'm back, would either of you like to hang out with me while I play, I love making new friends and i dont really have any on here yet since i was told that this was a good place to ask for help so i just got this application

[odd imp]

in voc you mean or text

[quasi ibex]

yeah in the voice chat feature it sounds like fun

[odd imp]

im a lil shy to voc sorry 😭

[quasi ibex]

that's ok i understand

[odd imp]

ty

[neat light]

I could but its 12 am and i cant make noise

[quasi ibex]

that's ok you can still type if you'd like!

[odd imp]

and my english SO BAD i cant

[quasi ibex]

ooh english is not your first language i assume?

[odd imp]

yeh

I wish it was

[slender mural]

You could always do it later. Right now I suggest you just get enough money to buy the ||map|| and then explore. It will set you up nicely and show you places to go.

[neat light]

i love not being american downside is not having english as 1st language and money

[odd imp]

Real

[quasi ibex]

do what later :O? sorry im confused

[slender mural]

Voice chat

I can’t either.

[quasi ibex]

oh yeah ,-, everyone is so busy this is sad

[quasi ibex]

you can attack in the air?

[slender mural]

Yes

In the same 4 directions too

[quasi ibex]

thats prett ycool

maybe ill wait to play this til tomorrow so i can hangout with people while I do

[slender mural]

Get the map and explore on your own. You have scratched the surface of this game

[neat light]

facts

[odd imp]

BIG SPOILER !!!! ⛔|||| Guys what charm build is the best for radiant radiance ?? my actual build is shaman strenght quickslash and spell twister ||

[bright sorrel]

that works

[odd imp]

||but i mean should i had a charm in overcharm ?||

[slender mural]

||Have you tried overcharming? If your doing it hitless there is no downsides, after that just practice practice practice||

[odd imp]

yeah but idk what to add

[slender mural]

||Soul eater||

[bright sorrel]

if u want to, sure. i would probably use ||strength, quick slash, catcher, twister, shaman||

[low garden]

meta build is ||quick slash, shaman stone, strength, steady body, mark of pride||

[slender mural]

If your overcharming just go the full distance and do ||soul eater instead of catcher||

[bright sorrel]

no it isnt. ||mark of pride is not used for radiance||

[low garden]

in general it is imo, you dont exactly tailor builds for bosses, also why not

[teal pawn]

i dont really think ||mop|| is meta for most bosses

and you kinda do tailor them for bosses

[bright sorrel]

that is worse. ||the main purpose of what i provided is twister instead of eater, however due to overcharming they can add catcher too. eater provides less soul than catcher and twister||

[low garden]

in ||pantheons?||

[neat light]

when should i tag mods?

[teal pawn]

hes not doing ||pantheons||

[bright sorrel]

they specifically asked for ||charms for radiance. mark of pride does literally nothing against radiance||

[low garden]

i disagree, why so

difference between squeezing in extra hits and being able to hit the boss without jumping from platforms

[bright sorrel]

that is not what it does

[low garden]

why not

[slender mural]

||And catcher + twister provides less soul than eater + twister||

[low garden]

i fight the ||other variant|| of the boss all the time with that build

[bright sorrel]

||it does not allow u to get extra hits ever. all that it does is let u hit radiance on the top midde platform without jumping, and that is not a dps increase||

considering ||radiance lacks contact damage, its very useless||

[teal pawn]

you dont have enough notches to use both

[slender mural]

||Radiant boss||

[low garden]

kinda is if you have to jump each time and take knockback, also the boss moves lol, if you can hit it from farther its definitely a benefit

[teal pawn]

you dont have enough

[low garden]

no?

hitting something from farther is hitting something from farther

[slender mural]

You just ||overcharm||. No harm to it because of ||radiant difficulty||

[teal pawn]

thats not how it works

you need a free ||notch to overcharm||

you need to get rid of ||twister|| to use ||eater||

and then you could add in a ||single notch charm||

[low garden]

^ and i suggest ||steady body||

[teal pawn]

i dont know how much it helps against ||absrad|| though

[low garden]

the alternative is something like ||defenders crest (kinda bad) or nail masters glory (more technical)||

[low garden]

it works very well

[teal pawn]

given ||absrad|| has no collision hitbox ||dcrest|| probably isnt absolutely terrible

[low garden]

more hits when jumping and you can do the mid air stalling thing a lot better

eh true but the boss moves around quite often

[slender mural]

Put the charms on in this order: ||Eater, QS, US, SS, ST||

Nvm my math was wrong

[teal pawn]

4+ 4 + 3 thats 11 and you cant fit the others

[low garden]

||eater should be last||

[teal pawn]

its not possible

[low garden]

takes up 4

[teal pawn]

biggest should always be last when ||overcharming||

[odd imp]

i started a war omg

[teal pawn]

also who uses ||ss|| for ||absrad||

[slender mural]

||Shrieks hit hard||

[teal pawn]

oh THAT ||ss||

i thought you meant ||shadow not shaman||

[bright sorrel]

which is useless

[runic grotto]

||Does anyone have any tips for recognizing Troupe Master Grimm's uppercut attack? It's the one thing during that fight that gets me every time and I can't get past it.||

[low garden]

lmao no

[teal pawn]

he always ||starts on the ground and dashes towards you before that||

[low garden]

bruh have you played this game

range is super useful

[teal pawn]

the other ||dash starts in the air and goes to the ground, being a normal dash||

[bright sorrel]

by ||jumping youre always able to hit radiance above you in that position, so the additional range does nothing in that situation||

[bright sorrel]

again, the context being this fight specifically

[low garden]

yeah ik bro ive spent countless hours fighting this boss

[slender mural]

Take it off and replace it and come back

[low garden]

you can hit the boss several times during a jump

[runic grotto]

||Trying to break my bad habit of damage tanking, and other sources suggest waiting for damage opportunities regardless. So I'm basically trying to figure out how to survive in the arena with him.||

[bright sorrel]

hence what i said

[teal pawn]

if yall want range on radiant just use ||elegy|| tbh

[low garden]

hence extra range means you can likely hit more

[slender mural]

Different conversation wasn’t giving you advice

[low garden]

ok nah that charm sucks

[bright sorrel]

again, by jumping u get the exact same amount of hits

[teal pawn]

its actually pretty good

[slender mural]

Unless you get hit

[teal pawn]

it can multihit

[slender mural]

Didn’t know that

[teal pawn]

its ||radiant||

[low garden]

or you could get more

[runic grotto]

||oh this isn't for godhome. I still haven't beaten the main boss yet. I'm trying to finish him off so that I can practice his fight further in Godhome.||

[teal pawn]

you arent going to get hit

[runic grotto]

apologies

[teal pawn]

oh wasnt talking to you dw about it

[bright sorrel]

that is not rly true. u have to specifically try to, and it isnt very consistent

[runic grotto]

shoot twice in a row
that's my bad

[low garden]

dont think you can just determinately dictate how many hits you can get

[teal pawn]

i mean ||absrad|| has a decent sized hitbox

[bright sorrel]

only by canceling the nails animation which u can do either way so it isnt too relevant

[teal pawn]

plus it lets you hit them without jumping

[low garden]

? no

nail canceling is a separate matter altogether

[lean drum]

"have you played this game" he says talking to a person thats like 10x better at the game than them

[bright sorrel]

regardless it is pretty tricky to do and not consistent

[bright sorrel]

hence what i just said

[low garden]

lmao

[low garden]

anika is 10x better than me yeah

[bright sorrel]

so far all youve done is just say "no"

[teal pawn]

even if you dont multihit its still free damage

[low garden]

well i can record a clear real quick if you want

[lean drum]

as a person thats fairly decent but not that good at the game (||radhog||), range doesnt do shit

[bright sorrel]

||at the cost of no soul and doing half of what u normally would||

[low garden]

[teal pawn]

range is generally more of a crutch

[teal pawn]

i mean you can hit from where you generally wouldnt

[lean drum]

im getting close to that actually

[bright sorrel]

that means nothing. u can ||beat it with extra range yes but that doesnt mean its useful||

[lean drum]

i think a month or two more

[teal pawn]

the range is way longer than your nail

[low garden]

yeah and i can beat it with no charms, therefore charms arent necessarily useful?

[odd imp]

i was proud of my 200H 😭

[bright sorrel]

u can do the same with ||spells which u wont rly be using with elegy||

[low garden]

good for you ig

[bright sorrel]

hence what i just said

[lean drum]

3 ||notches|| for 0.5x damage shot that makes the most godawful sound effect ever

[teal pawn]

yeah but you cant spam ||spells|| as much

[low garden]

||elegy|| doesnt give soul iirc which is a problem

[teal pawn]

you say that like ||strength|| isnt the same

[lean drum]

it quite literally isnt

[teal pawn]

the point is free damage where you generally would be out of range

so no soul anyway

[lean drum]

first of all it doesnt make a sound effect

[low garden]

yeah but only relative to not having used a different charm

the main problem is there are better alternatives

[teal pawn]

yeah im not saying its the best but it is a good charm

or can be on ||radiant||

[slender mural]

Anywhere else it’s bad

[teal pawn]

never said otherwise

[slender mural]

Cause 1 hit means it’s wasted space

[teal pawn]

i only recommend ||elegy for radiant, parkour and delicate flower||

[low garden]

what

[slender mural]

wtf you doing with it for parkour

[teal pawn]

synergy

buffs ||grubsong||

[low garden]

ah for ||pop|| yeah

[slender mural]

oh yeah

[low garden]

i used it first time too, better than ||waiting for hiveblood|| imo

[teal pawn]

way faster

[slender mural]

||Although hiveblood is just better if your not doing fireball skips or something||

[lean drum]

not rly

[teal pawn]

||hb|| takes 12 seconds

its real slow

[slender mural]

Just be patient

Your not losing anything

[bright sorrel]

ur losing time

[teal pawn]

the time in question:

[bright sorrel]

precious time 😔

[slender mural]

You speed running it or something

[teal pawn]

wasting time staring at a screen so you can do your next attempt

[lean drum]

no i just dont wanna wait 12 seconds per attempt

instead of like

[slender mural]

Cause it’s not that bad. A little patience goes a long way

[bright sorrel]

patience is propaganda

[lean drum]

but why be patient when you can not be patient to the same result

[teal pawn]

its not necessary and its not the gameplay people come to hk for

[slender mural]

I also don’t want to hear that godforsaken sound effect every time I swing my nail

[teal pawn]

its a good sfx

[lean drum]

oh yeah me neither, i take 1 hit on purpose so that doesnt play

but after that 1 hit its great

[lean drum]

my ears actively dying while you be like "yeah this is good"

[teal pawn]

you could always turn off your audio

personally i think its fine

[slender mural]

But|| white palace|| ost!

[teal pawn]

you could uh

play it somewhere else and turn off gameplay audio

get it off youtube and loop it or something

[slender mural]

But I have full surround sound for my tv

[teal pawn]

ah a console player

[steel tangle]

i had 1265 geo and I bought the ||wayward compass||(im new in the game)

was this a good idea?

[bright sorrel]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (People, Places, and Things should be spoiler tagged!! if you are confused, please see the pins for what is allowed ).
We do this to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[bright sorrel]

u should buy stuff u think is useful

[umbral palm]

Best charm

[teal pawn]

edit the message and spoiler tag it

[steel tangle]

which word

[teal pawn]

when in doubt spoiler everything, but in this case ||wayward compass||

[steel tangle]

ok

👍👍👍👍

[safe onyx]

any tips for ||grey prince zote||

[inland moon]

what are you struggling with

[daring moat]

wow i was just about to ask the same

hk help knows me so well

[verbal saffron]

what are you doing to need help with that

[daring moat]

||3x speed ascended gpz, nothing much ||

[verbal saffron]

I doubt many people here could help with that

[inland moon]

use ||ddark||

[daring moat]

yeah that's pretty much the strat

[inland moon]

also why 3x speed

[daring moat]

though it's slightly more complicated but

[verbal saffron]

what's your charm build

[daring moat]

for funsies of course

[daring moat]

guess

[inland moon]

just do something normal like ||p5ab||

[daring moat]

ikr

nah i dont wanna do it tbh

[inland moon]

it's not that bad trust

only took 30 hours

[daring moat]

also we should move to like
hk offtopic or smth

[daring moat]

that's it? ur cracked ggs

[inland moon]

really

[daring moat]

yeah

[inland moon]

how long is it normally

[daring moat]

usually 60+

afaik

[verbal saffron]

||shaman's, twister, qs, baldur's, gsong||?? Idfk but that seems alrightish

is it like a regular build or changed for the speed increase

[inland moon]

maybe ||catcher over shell||

[daring moat]

it's nearly impossible to use ||baldur's at 3x speed||

[verbal saffron]

is melon correct

[daring moat]

pretty regular build tbh

[inland moon]

always

[daring moat]

mmm no, between both y'all got 2 charms

[inland moon]

not really

[daring moat]

anywah let's move to hk offtopic or disc

[fast crow]

How do I get the black clover 5 skin

[inland moon]

the best place to ask about skins is #modding-discussion

[fast crow]

Thanks

[proper tiger]

i got the|| king soul ||where do i go now?

[rugged veldt]

Hello! In my opinion, ||Reading the charm's description|| might be a hint on where to go. Perhaps it should help you?

Also, this channel has pretty strict spoiler rules. Would you please mind adding two vertical bars on both sides of your message ||like this|| please?

[proper tiger]

oh i didn't knew

[rugged veldt]

That's okay, just don't forget about this in the future :)

Anika is that you lurking

[turbid beacon]

another day without hollow knight, how awesome

goddamn it

[rugged veldt]

You're having problems with the controller right?

[turbid beacon]

yeah

and i was so close to a cool moment

and getting a shit ton of upgrades

well i guess i'll leave that to future with a new controller me

[rugged veldt]

Man, that sucks :(

My condolences 🙏

[turbid beacon]

im just going to play binding of isaac or something

i gotta pass the time

[rugged veldt]

Well, have fun

[cursive owl]

Any advice for ||final phase of AbsRad ? Should I be looking for pogos? shriek opportunities? Trying to keep to the platforms and only nail when it's super safe? I've only been playing very occasionally since covid but I have been stuck on ascended for years||

[simple island]

that phase is suprinsingly consistent if you do it right

[bright sorrel]

||start by going to the left platform. if radiance spawns on the left, quickly use shriek twice then dodge the orb thats spawning.

generally u want to stay on the left, pogo/side slash radiance when its on the half of the arena ur on and use fireball when radiance is on the other side.

to avoid the orbs, jump awy from where they spawn then use wings. they will fly offscreen and despawn||

[simple island]

but for some reason it seems like most people try to play it like what they saw|| any radiance players doing||

[bright sorrel]

ya thats bad imo

[cursive owl]

LOL

[simple island]

like this is probably the best explanation you are getting (by cat)

[bright sorrel]

demonstration of the ||double shriek strat. note that the fireball was not needed in this situation specifically||

[cursive owl]

The advice definitely was working first attempt so I think I can get it with this. Hitless for the first 4 phases but still couldn't do it 😢

[strong prawn]

Does banishing ||Grimm|| give as much percentage as beating ||NKG||?

[rugged veldt]

Yes

[strong prawn]

Thank god

Now all I have to do is ||Pantheons and trail of the fool||

[rugged veldt]

Those ones are fun, good luck!

[minor nebula]

||can someone give me tips for tge trial of the conquerer||

[strong prawn]

You got all ||nail upgrades?||

[cursive owl]

||Might be too obvious to be helpful, but for first time cleaning a marathon scenario like that, it is really good to make sure that you are focused on living more than getting extra hits in. Don't overextend to get a little extra damage. Try to stay "centered" as much as possible in that you have movement and terrain available to be able to evade unexpected enemy pathing and attacks||

[simple island]

for all ||colos you should priorities one shotting enemies, depending on what spells/nail you got that can be by focusing on doing nail arts, or focusing on spell damage and soul gathering||

also make sure to deal with the most dangerous targets first, mostly the ones with ranged attacks

[viscid heart]

a good tip in general for the ||colosseum is to utilize narts||

[minor nebula]

I got 3

[sharp crystal]

||What is the other slot for?||

[lucid matrix]

there are 2 variants

[sharp crystal]

||How to access the other one?||

[scarlet hull]

Hmmmm

Go back to where u fought him first

[lucid matrix]

||crystal peaks||

[sharp crystal]

Ohhh

👍i ain't doin allat🤫

[crystal tide]

oh don't tell me you raged quit

[lucid matrix]

its really fast tho it takes like 2 minutes

[sharp crystal]

No im just lazy

[silver galleon]

Will I need them anywhere else or ||i can sell them||?

[lucid matrix]

no

[sharp crystal]

I ain't going to|| crystal peak||

[scarlet hull]

U can sell em

[crystal tide]

You don't need them.

[lucid matrix]

lazy ahh

[sharp crystal]

||Sell to get rich 🤑||

[scarlet hull]

It’s quick

[scarlet hull]

Although

[gilded cypress]

|| how do i beat false knights? idk why im having so much trouble with them rn but they almost costed me my steel soul run ||

[scarlet hull]

U might wanna wait until u actually need them because if u die u could lose a lot of geo

[scarlet hull]

Like the first boss in the game?

[lucid matrix]

theres only one wdym?

[sharp crystal]

Exactly

[gilded cypress]

oh im dumb lmao i meant || watcher knights ||

[scarlet hull]

Oh lmao

[sharp crystal]

||Also dream version is so hard for no reason||

[lucid matrix]

did you use the thing that falls down

[gilded cypress]

yep

[scarlet hull]

||So for ur ss run u can get more items before u fight em to make it easier||

[lucid matrix]

ong it was the hardest boss for me on my first playtrough

[scarlet hull]

It isn’t but that’s subjective

[sharp crystal]

||Wait, if u die in dream in steel soul do u actually die?||

[acoustic sigil]

||Get ddark, use shaman stone.

Hit them a few times, get above them, ddark, repeat||

[silver galleon]

I have a ||bank account||

[sharp crystal]

😭do u mean im noob?

[scarlet hull]

Uh

[acoustic sigil]

||When you die in steel soul you die irl||

[lucid matrix]

try to hit them all with ||vengeful spirit|| also you can spam ||ddark|| because its op

[gilded cypress]

i was thinking of getting ||shadow dash|| but ||sentinel hornet|| might be an issue since i remember i also had trouble with her

[scarlet hull]

I didn’t say that, I’m saying i didn’t find it as hard as ppl say it is

[scarlet hull]

Hmmmm

[sharp crystal]

||watcher knight was harder than the radaince to me||

[scarlet hull]

Normally a boss is easier on the second go

[gilded cypress]

actually nvm ||spells|| too hard brain small nail cool, im getting ||shadow dash||

[dim spindle]

how

[scarlet hull]

||And u might wanna get a nail upgrade or two||

[scarlet hull]

💀

[sharp crystal]

IDK BRO I UNDERSTMAED HIM AND HE SPANKEDD ME

[lucid matrix]

no way bro

[acoustic sigil]

||Okay but ddark needs no thought||

[dim spindle]

you are either lying or THAT bad... but also good?

[viscid heart]

why is that relatable

[sharp crystal]

I swear 😭😭😭

[gilded cypress]

hard

[sharp crystal]

Finally someone like me 😭🙏

[gilded cypress]

weirdly enough i kinda agree with you lol

[lucid matrix]

bro ||ddark|| is literally the most broken thing in the game just get it

[lucid matrix]

💀

[rigid fractal]

Sa||me bro, i did rad absrad before rad watcher knights. Its that har||d

[gilded cypress]

if i fail with ||shadow dash|| then ill try using ||ddark||

[viscid heart]

i mean sure it is easier after you reach endgame and do it in ||hog|| but first time fighting them they took me longer than ||hornet 2, nkg and normal radiance probably||

[lucid matrix]

but ||rad watcher nights|| is different ||markoth on rad|| is like the hardest boss but hes easy normally

[gilded cypress]

dont you need ||watcher knights|| for ||pantheon 5?||

[lucid matrix]

yes

[gilded cypress]

oh nvm i read it wrong

[cursive owl]

||fwiw, Watcher Knights were a lot harder for me than The Radiance too. How? I did NKG right before doing Radiance and that made it feel kind of easy||

[lucid matrix]

thats crazy

[viscid heart]

yeah imo ||nkg is way harder than normal radiance||

[simple island]

||watcher knight|| with good equipment just die before the fight starts though

like they have low health

[lucid matrix]

yeah but ||abs rad|| is way harder

[cursive owl]

hard agree. Honestly, the latter was a big dissapointment first time cause I was expecting a lot more after beating the former

[viscid heart]

||absrad is another story||

[cursive owl]

||I do wish Radiance was about 50% closer to AbsRad. Like if Radiance is a 5 and AbsRad is a 10, I wish Radiance was actually a 7.5||

[lucid matrix]

||pure vessel|| is harder tho that thing ended my ||p5 runs|| everytime when I first did it

[scarlet hull]

Eh he’s easy af

[cursive owl]

for challenge.
Sorry, I will stop bogging down the help chat with yapping

[scarlet hull]

So is that other guy

[scarlet hull]

Nah lol that guys easy smh

[lucid matrix]

no ones asking for help rn anyways

[scarlet hull]

Imo imo

[viscid heart]

sure i can see why

[cursive owl]

Oh, I thought we still might be talking about the ||steel soul|| thing

[scarlet hull]

Tags

[viscid heart]

||nkg feels more consistent than pv for me||

[lucid matrix]

nah ||pure vesser|| was so stressful for me

[scarlet hull]

Eh

[sharp crystal]

A quick question

[scarlet hull]

Just practice them a lot

[lucid matrix]

||nkg|| is so easy once you understand him

[lucid matrix]

sure what is it

[viscid heart]

yeah

[sharp crystal]

||Do all nail arts have the same damge?||

[lucid matrix]

no

[scarlet hull]

Nah

[cursive owl]

||Cyclone does 1.2x nail damage a hit. The others do 2.5x nail damage||

[sharp crystal]

Which one got higher

[lucid matrix]

||cyclone slash|| deals the most if everything hits

[cursive owl]

||I def remember correctly and didn't forget after 6 years||

[scarlet hull]

Yea but that’s unlikely

[sharp crystal]

I was thinking the same, just wanted to make sure 👍

[lucid matrix]

obviously

[lucid matrix]

np gl with watcher knights

[sharp crystal]

||With most griunded bosses it's very likely to hit||

Grounded*

[scarlet hull]

Eh but it also takes longer, easier for them to hit u

[lucid matrix]

can we talk about how ||sly|| is the biggest piece of shit in this game

[viscid heart]

no?

[gilded cypress]

hes so cool tho

[cursive owl]

||LMAO, but he's so fun to do parry only||

[lucid matrix]

he is

[scarlet hull]

No?

[gilded cypress]

patapa geo

[rugged veldt]

Hello help, how we doing today

[cursive owl]

||In what part of the game is he tho? Lore? Boss fight? As a shopkeeper?||

[lucid matrix]

||boss fight||

[cursive owl]

^

[rugged veldt]

He's fun imo

[rigid fractal]

He small imo

[lucid matrix]

I am NOT doing ||parry only||💀

[lucid matrix]

how do yall like him hes annoying asf

[cursive owl]

||Oh, equip Quick Slash||

[rugged veldt]

He's so fun

[lucid matrix]

Im always using ||qs||

[viscid heart]

after you learn him its not too bad and a fairly fun fight imo

[lucid matrix]

I know how to beat him hes just annoying

[scarlet hull]

KRIST

[cursive owl]

||I guess I could see him being kind of boring if you do a basic rinse and repeat where you play super safe and just run away from all his attacks and get a one hit punish.||

[rugged veldt]

Spaball!!!!

[lucid matrix]

I have like 500 hours in hollow knight and I dont know how else you would fight him except for using maybe a spell in between

[rugged veldt]

That's what makes it fun no?

Challenging fights are cool so long they aren't over the top

[simple island]

the fact that you cannot dps rush a boss, doesn't mean it is not fun

[cursive owl]

||I genuinely think parry is really good vs him. It is obviously a bit risky for me to want to do it in a p5 run. But in Hall, well, his attacks do have very consistent timing. Especially when he gets into the 3 piece combos||

[simple island]

like I love that back and forth, battle of attrition until one dies

[lucid matrix]

for me the problem is that you cant really make the fight faster by beiing good yk?

[lucid matrix]

the only thing im missing is ||p5 with all bindings|| and hes one of the bosses who ends the most of my runs because he takes so long

[rugged veldt]

Being good you mean damage tank?

[gilded cypress]

you can tho if you have good enough timing

[lucid matrix]

you can beat bosses fast without taking damage yk?

[rugged veldt]

Yeah?

[cursive owl]

||me giving up on all bindings p3 cause of The Collector||

[silver galleon]

What are these things?

[lucid matrix]

collector is so hard on all bindings but youll get it one day💯

[true finch]

||nothing important now||

[gilded cypress]

dont worry youll find out later

[cursive owl]

||Well, I certainly would not do all parry strats for Sly in all bindings. I guess I haven't played him myself since I never did make it past Collector. But I am kind of surprised he's one of the real problem fights. Not that he's easy or that you're not good or anything. I just wouldn't have expected Sly of all people to do it. Seems like you could just use the safe strats and only take the riskless openings||

[lucid matrix]

it might just be a me problem I stress when a fight takes like really long and ||sly|| takes a while because you only can get 1 hit in you know

[cursive owl]

Very true, it is long when playing safe

[rugged veldt]

The order is slightly shuffled ||in p5|| so it's usually not ||Sly|| that deals the finishing blow but the ||hornet|| after him

||Sly|| is the one that tires you out imo

[lucid matrix]

||sly|| did kill me a lot of times the furthest ive gotten was to ||pv|| but only twice

[cursive owl]

Also very true. I find when doing ||p5 runs (working on single bindings atm)|| that he is quite a problem, but it is really the damage taken going into ||H2.||

[crystal tide]

yea

[viscid heart]

me who havent done ||p5|| yet and dont know what is to come

even though i know its ||all bosses||

[lucid matrix]

its really hard but youll get it eventually

[cursive owl]

||I am incredibly rusty and have accepted that I just need to grind the last 7 bosses of the run in Hall of Gods before I attempt again. The first 35 are no issue, it's just the end.||

||Got butchered like a stray vessel by Zote cause I could not remember how he worked||

[viscid heart]

im still trying to do ||trial of the fools because for whatever its really hard for me. its the last percent until my first 112%||

[lucid matrix]

true I gotta do that to I havent played in a few months and when I tried yesterday I got destroyed

[scarlet hull]

Hey krist and kark, you should do the trivia question in https://discord.com/channels/888809917551636501/968171425200496720 !

[gilded cypress]

for me its ||umuu|| i can destroy all bosses before and most after other than ||zote and the other obvious ones|| but ||umuu|| just destroys me no matter what

[lucid matrix]

whast r u struggling with on ||umuu||

[lucid matrix]

||trial of the fools|| is hard

It took me like an hout the first time I think

[scarlet hull]

Tags

[crystal tide]

yea

[gilded cypress]

i get hit/fall when he summons the ||exploding things|| so i either dont have time to hit them or cant find a good angle where it wont hit me

[scarlet hull]

This as well

[lucid matrix]

mbmb

[scarlet hull]

Nah it’s alr

[viscid heart]

my pb is like ||wave 15, the one where the ground has spike and the arena is made to half of its size||

[gilded cypress]

plus his overall moveset is just obnoxious imo

[cursive owl]

||I could jsut be getting lucky as I have only done a few runs. But having just come back after years away. I find that it works to just play really safe with uumuu and only use vengeful spirit as my trigger for getting the adds to make it vulnerable. I never use my nail cause it is too unpredictable. With VS I can sit back at a safe spot and wait for the boss and the add to line up and it is no issue every time||

[simple island]

for that one you should ||leave the plaform, either go wall jump on the walls to the sides or jump then double jump super high up||

[cursive owl]

||Plus you get the free dream nail at the start so you can guarantee soul for a VS||

[lucid matrix]

I honestly dont know how to help you because I never struggled with ||umuu|| sorry

[gilded cypress]

see i cant play it safe because its a really slow fight if i do, for example with ||sly|| i dont feel like its slow beacuse im dodging and hes zooming and shit but with ||umuu|| im just standing around, walking slowly until he summons the ||exploding jellyfish||

[lucid matrix]

yeah what this guy said is true

[gilded cypress]

i could try that

[cursive owl]

||I got my first clears on radiant Marmu and Watcher Knights today and am really happy with that :)||

[gilded cypress]

thats also useful i didnt even tihnk of that, never use ||dream nail|| in any fights lol

[cursive owl]

||Marmu is a demoninc entity||

[gilded cypress]

oh sick

[lucid matrix]

nice

[cursive owl]

||Depending on how Umuu moves after the first Dream Nail hit, you can get a follow-up, iirc. In fact I think it has to move in a specific way to not get a second dream nail? don't quote me on that||

[lucid matrix]

I usually ||stay on the walls the entire fight I think its safer||

[gilded cypress]

can ||spells|| hit it when its not ||deflated||?

[cursive owl]

no

[lucid matrix]

you can get two she usually ||stops right in front of you to attack or summon iirc||

[cursive owl]

*can't damage, if you want to be extra specific

[lucid matrix]

nah

[gilded cypress]

damn

imma try using the tips yall gave me on my next ||pantheon 5|| run

[cursive owl]

||Also note that if the little jellyfish are floating up after the boss dies. You have quite a bit of time to get dream nails in before [the actual worst boss in the game]||

[lucid matrix]

Hope youll beat it once you done it youll realize its not actually that hard

also practise ||the last bosses in the hall of gods you dont want to fail on absrad||

[cursive owl]

||I am not even bothering attempting a binding run again until I can beat all of the last 6 ascended in the hall of gods. Either in a row or just to where I feel pretty comfortable||

[gilded cypress]

i can defeat ||pale knight|| and ||nkg|| i just gotta clutch tbh, im only doing ||p5|| so my ||hall of gods|| is complete lol

[gilded cypress]

i havent and also will never do a ||binding|| run 😭

[lucid matrix]

same honestly Ill do that later

[cursive owl]

||My first p5 clear I think what did it. Is I wasn't actually playing to beat it. I added Wayward Compass to overcharm to make it for realsies ascended and played through NKG on double damage. And I think that pushed me to be sharp enough to do the final two||

[lucid matrix]

dont I hate myself for it but I only gotta do ||p5|| now and I dont want to give up💀

[lucid matrix]

thats fuckin wild hahahha

[cursive owl]

||My eyes are more on the hall of gods, tbh. I really need that Ascended AbsRad. It's been hovering over my head since 2019 :(||

[viscid heart]

havent done a single ||binding yet for all the pantheons because they just feel like torture||

[gilded cypress]

thats crazy you gotta be cracked lol

[charred wraith]

||is there a way to get all endings under one save file?||

[viscid heart]

even though ||lifeblood heart would be helpful||

[cursive owl]

I did not do the final 2 with compass on. Those ones I took of the weighted training clothes, as it were

[viscid heart]

technically i think?

[lucid matrix]

||p1|| is not that bad with ||bindings||

[lucid matrix]

yes

[charred wraith]

"Technically" how?

[viscid heart]

they wont do anything unless i also do the other ones with ||binding|| tho

[lucid matrix]

u respawn before the ||final boss|| everytime

[viscid heart]

you just have to do them in specific order

well theres really only one that had to be done in order

[lucid matrix]

yeah thats true ig

[charred wraith]

Since i don't wanna spoil myself... any tips on what i should accomplish first before getting another ending?

[lucid matrix]

have u beat the game?

[charred wraith]

Once, yeah

[cursive owl]

||Get really good at Flower Quest 😈 ||

[lucid matrix]

thats the actuall hardest thing in the game😭

[charred wraith]

Lemme just pic real quick

[gilded cypress]

yknow i wonder if you can do it before ||infected crossroads|| cuz i feel like thats a big part of the difficulty

[cursive owl]

||yeah that is way harder than all bindings||

[charred wraith]

||i also got the blac dash just recently. On y wayto get the blue charm core thing||

[lucid matrix]

did you only kill the ||hollow knight|| or the boss after ||the hollow knight||

[gilded cypress]

take ||quick focus|| off its very situoational, then put either ||shaman stone|| if your into spells or whatever else you want lol, also imo ||mark of pride|| isnt really needed you could just use ||longnail||

[charred wraith]

Ahah! You see...

[charred wraith]

THERE'S ANOTHER!?!

[open sky]

who is this

[simple island]

one of them is in ||deepnest, the other in fungal||

[viscid heart]

||two dream warriors one in fungal waste one in deepnest||

[charred wraith]

Oh, that was just my fighting build. I suck at picking proper times to heal

[open sky]

ty

[neat karma]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[lucid matrix]

what does that even mean bro

[neat karma]

did you read the message

[gilded cypress]

just heal at the staggers thats what usually works, also some ||bosses|| let you heal different amounts, for example one could let you heal only 1 mask while others even let you heal 3

[dim spindle]

im gonna become the next joker

[lucid matrix]

I jus dont understand I obv helped the guy with that?

[dim spindle]

I DIDNT KNOW THAT AFTER ||NAILSAGE SLY|| COMES ||HORNET 2||

[neat karma]

did you read the message

[dim spindle]

SO I DIDNT HEAL, CAUSE I EXCPECTED A BENCH

[lucid matrix]

I see it now ig

[charred wraith]

Ah. I think it's bcause i didn't know about the second, well, thing

[gilded cypress]

mf on his villain arc

[lucid matrix]

do I gottta delete my message or what

[neat karma]

there would be no point on being "spoiler free" channel if you can spoil them even when tagging

doesnt matter much since theyve already seen it but please dont do it again

[lucid matrix]

alr

[lucid matrix]

well I hope I didnt spoiler you ig hahbahaha

[dim spindle]

talking about spoiler tags, i think there should be like a place where we can help others, but like we dont gotta add spoiler tags cuz its annoying (so like if they know everything abt the game and are trying to beat the final boss)

[neat karma]

well you did but-

[charred wraith]

Well uh... since that's done then. Can i get like jut vague tidbits on what order i need to do things then?

[neat karma]

#hk-discussion, #hk-general

[viscid heart]

probably just ask in hk-discussion then

[dim spindle]

cant wait for someone there to tell me to go to #hk-help lol

[viscid heart]

wait so what ||ending ||did you actually get?

[neat karma]

also please tag this uh

[lucid matrix]

I dont think Im the guy you should ask honestly I dont know it of the top of my head because I usually just beat the game as fast as possible

[viscid heart]

you can check the achievements if that helps

[gilded cypress]

what are the easier ||charm notches|| to get, other than the ||fungal waste and salubra ones||

actually nvm there are only 2 other than those

[lucid matrix]

he probably got ||the ending where you becom e the hollow knight||

[charred wraith]

||sorry for the late reply. I only have the"become the vessel" achievement. I inly beat the game recently||

[cursive owl]

||The remnants of two honored entities from the days of glory in Hallownest. One, a great sage, who crusaded against the infection. Only to become mad himself and be struck low by the fearsome mantises. The other a fearsome warrior himself, who sought to stand as a knight in the Pale Court. To prove his valor he journeyed far into Deepnest. Fighting endlessly, he never tired. Until eventually, after untold days of combat, he passed on without even realizing it. They say that his spirit haunts his final battleground to this day.||

[viscid heart]

aight so thats the ||ending|| you want to get first, rest doesnt matter afaik

[lucid matrix]

okay so you gotta ||get a charm calles kings soul||

[thick wing]

do ||grubs|| go towards game completion?

[lucid matrix]

I think its called that at least

yeah it is

[charred wraith]

Then go to credits again?

[cursive owl]

||I mean, the nail upgrade off it, not the ore itself||

[viscid heart]

make sure to do that "quest" after the ||ending|| tho as it locks that ||ending|| after you get it

[lucid matrix]

nononno

[lucid matrix]

yes

[viscid heart]

i dont think the ||grubs do but the rewards do||

[lucid matrix]

its like a quest you also have to get ||the shade cloak||

[charred wraith]

I see. Thanks

Well, i shouldn't dote any futher. Those are enough so i don't not only accidentaly spoil myself, but get you guys in triuble heh

[viscid heart]

great idea

[charred wraith]

Welp, see ya folks. I'm still plying while chatting anyways. Thanks for the help again

[lucid matrix]

alr just one thing if you dont want to find the ||shade cloak|| all by yourself you need to ||use the kings brand in the basin somewhere||

[lucid matrix]

gl

[viscid heart]

thats probably unnecessary unless if he needs help later

[charred wraith]

Oh, already got that yesterday when I asked someone for some general helpmon where else i should explroe

[cursive owl]

I have played this game long enough that I don't want to admit it, but... ||it's really hard.||

[lucid matrix]

ye probably

[viscid heart]

like right now lol

[lucid matrix]

thats good

[lucid matrix]

what made you come to that realizasion ( how do you spell ts)

[cursive owl]

realization

[viscid heart]

thats true lol when i first started playing i was like, ||damn this game is way harder than i thought it would be||

[neat karma]

generally if they didnt ask for it uh dont say it

lmao

[lucid matrix]

alr just want to help

[viscid heart]

the main purpose for this is to solve their current problems, any future issues probably should be addressed until they ask about it

[lucid matrix]

ye you right

[cursive owl]

It's just the amount of vanilla content I still haven't done even after having over 2k hours in the game. ||And, tbf, I have basically only played rando for the last 4 years. But, still. I have played a lot and have done a lot of cursed rando and I was able to pack up radiant Marmu and Watcher Knights reasonably fast today. But there's still so many radiant bosses. I have beaten some decently hard ones like those and Sisters but PV is the only really hard radiant I've done. Plus all bindings on 3 and 4, plus even just individual bindings on 5. Flower quest goals.||

||Like, I have played a lot and would consider myself to be pretty capable. And I was still getting ripped to shreds by ascended PV today||

[lucid matrix]

I have 500 hours and ||still havent done 112%||

[viscid heart]

my first save rn is on ||111% and is under 100hr, would that be consider fast or slow?||

[bright sorrel]

[viscid heart]

i should probably try to finish ||colo 3 before 100hr mark||

[lucid matrix]

but i feel you on the ||rando stuff like 200h of those hours was in the hall of gods and another 200 on randomizers hahahah||

[cursive owl]

||I think that is hard to say cause it can depend on how you play the game. I def took things slow getting to 112% for the first time||

||I thiiiink that's probably normal - fast. It can take a while to find everything, and if you are like, reading all the lore and dreamnail stuff, and doing all the quests (which at 111% you prob are), that is a lot to do and has plenty of challenge||

[viscid heart]

id consider my run fairly successful given that i took a very very weird route

[outer carbon]

I DID IT

I BEAT ||HORNET SENTINEL||

[viscid heart]

gg

[lucid matrix]

gj

[gilded cypress]

WHERE IS ||QUICK SLASH||

[viscid heart]

||KE||

[gilded cypress]

literally found ||bardoon and the colosseum of fools|| before ||quick slash||

[outer carbon]

ok so basically

[lucid matrix]

in the ||kingdoms edge||

[cursive owl]

I was quite happy with my first run too 🙂 ||Mostly from my consistency vs bosses. NKG was the second boss in the game that stopped me for more than a few attempts. The first was Soul Warrior 😒. Well, Mawlurk did take me 4 attempts but I dapped them up very early. Didn't do as well at other parts of the game, but that doesn't matter, it's all about the thing I think I did good at ||

[outer carbon]

the room after the ||nailmasters|| house

[gilded cypress]

yeah but where 😭

[outer carbon]

has a breakable ||floor||

[gilded cypress]

ok so im going the complete opposite way lol

[lucid matrix]

its ||behind the nailmaster I think||

oh someone answered already

[viscid heart]

what i was very impressed about was how fast i adapted to playing on pc, even though i played terraria before this i was still very unfamiliar with it

[cursive owl]

LOL, yeah, getting used to that is a big adjustment right off

[viscid heart]

i was basically playing on mobile for my whole life before that

[lucid matrix]

Do you play with controller or mnk

[viscid heart]

and then fact that i ||went through deepnest, then crystal peak, then resting ground before discovering city||

[exotic wedge]

Oh i think i remember that

story

[lucid matrix]

thats crazy my first instinct after ||the mantis lords was to go to the city||

[viscid heart]

yep, so id say sub 100hr 112% is pretty good for that

[viscid heart]

i was like oh there is this door right by them, so this has to be the way right?

[lucid matrix]

I coudnt imagine ||doing deepnest this early||

[cursive owl]

||I also did mantis lords > deepnest first time. I didn't complete it tho. Dipped out and learned about the dreamers and went right back for Herrah. Hardest zone in the game imo, and it's def cause I did it quite early||

[lucid matrix]

people who ||can do deepnest without lantern|| have my biggest respect honestly