hk-help

[scenic egret]

yes

[vital ferry]

thanks

[analog peak]

alright ive been trying to learn|| facedance for a bit now and im kinda decent with it, tho what do i do when he does his lazer beam attack or the swords from above/the side||

[scenic egret]

for the ||swords||, you just be in the middle and dont get hit. for the ||beams|| i think you just wiggle around a bit or get off

also some other channel may be better for what youre doing(hk-disc or speedrunning), since ||facedancing|| is considered an advanced technique

[idle tiger]

This channel is more for new players who are playing the game for their first time, although experienced players can obviously ask questions! If you have questions about speedrunning/mods, or really anything outside the vanilla game, this probably isn't the best channel for it.

[shut sparrow]

||I would just ddark, dodge the rest of the attack on the floor and then continue facedancing. You need to stop face dancing to dodge the beam burst and dodging the sword burst is possible while continuing to facedance but it's really precise and difficult so I recommend stopping and ddarking for both||

[thick wing]

Yo charms is no longer a spoiler let's go

[shut sparrow]

nice

[idle tiger]

[shut sparrow]

This channel is for both new and experienced players imo

[idle tiger]

ok i didnt say it well

[thick wing]

Yeah we get people who need help with ||p5|| etc

[idle tiger]

mb

[shut sparrow]

even ||R5|| sometimes

[idle tiger]

basically im trying to say that you can probably find a better place for questions about speedrunning and mods etc

[shut sparrow]

Speedrunning and mods yes, ||facedancing is just a strat for a boss though and doesn't necessarily have to be for a speedrun but maybe just to improve on the boss so I'd say this is the right place to ask||

[thick wing]

Well at that point I'll just shove Lumos's guide

[sharp widget]

||Ive noe consumed the vengeful spirit and have no idea what to do next lmfao||

like where should i go

[shut sparrow]

look around ||in the left part of crossroads again. You might be able to spot some unexplored ways on your map that you could check out again. Maybe you also remember something being there that you could previously not get past. Either way you should look there||

[thick wing]

It's pretty aaaa

[shut sparrow]

whenever I see "aaaa" I think of seesaw

[thick wing]

exactly

🙈 🪚

[shut sparrow]

blindsaw

[thorny token]

Please no ssaw smh

[sharp widget]

thanks for just getting me to the right direction and not telling me exactly what to do, appreciate it

[thorny token]

That's what we always do

[shut sparrow]

that's exactly how this channel works

[thorny token]

Or atleast how the helpers are meant to work (insert random new helper who has 5 messages and doesn't know concept of uncspoiler)

[thick wing]

wow it's time for ||howtocheckcompletion%||

[thorny token]

Surely

[scenic egret]

almost always do*

[analog peak]

Being exactly in the middle is insanely hard tho, except ||ddark|| theres nothing to do really right

[lean drum]

Not rly

Theres gaps

Even if you arent good at getting in the middle

[shut sparrow]

There aren't really gaps. Either you find the dead center or you get hit

if you choose to ||keep facedancing and not drop or ddark||

[lean drum]

Which mod are we doing

||anyrad||?

[hard zodiac]

||For beams you can go between the beams and shriek to fix your position.||

||For the swords you can wiggle around them or just ddark. If they swords are from the fave you can stay in the middle of AbsRad's face to avoid the attack altogether||

You don't have to get super duper consistent at this technique because it's mostly for speedrunning. So unless you really want to learn it / finish the boss very quickly then you don't have to minmax it

[lean drum]

wait we’re doing vanilla?

[scenic egret]

just being optimal

[lean drum]

Why does this guy wanna like 100% ||facedance absrad||

[hard zodiac]

||Ddark doesn't give iframe until you start moving downwards. Since it launches you up by a bit it isn't safe to use when the attack has already been initiated||

[lean drum]

Even i just go up there in between attacks

[hard zodiac]

tbh it's my bad shouldn't have told them about ||facedancing||

[lean drum]

Its a good strat, just the speedrunner version of it is hard af

The casual version is easy tho

[hard zodiac]

It helps A LOT but its very difficult

[turbid beacon]

does ||howling wraiths go through the ceiling like abysss shriek?||

[lean drum]

Yea

[hard zodiac]

Which one

[turbid beacon]

nice

[hallow niche]

How many time should i ||beat pure vessel in row that i should do p4 again?||

[turbid beacon]

i think im going to do ||colosseum||

[hard zodiac]

Until you can defeat consistently

[lean drum]

You dont stay up there, you just do it between attacks

[hallow niche]

Ok

[hallow niche]

Thx

[turbid beacon]

doesnt matter in a row as long as you know the attack patterns and know how to dodge each one i'd say you're good

[hallow niche]

Im pretty consistent bit 2 im a row is my max

*but

[hard zodiac]

Ah thats what I do. I find speedrunning version too much fingerwork

[scenic egret]

as many as you want, i generally go for 2-5. it really depends on how hard the ||rest of the pantheon||is for you

[lean drum]

Same

Im a filthy casual

[scenic egret]

youre gonna need the practice if the rest is hard for you

[hallow niche]

K

[turbid beacon]

||spell builds|| are fucking awesome

[hard zodiac]

🆙

[hallow niche]

Is it also worth it to try ||the one version where he has more hp and double damage?||

[hard zodiac]

How much time do you have on the game

[turbid beacon]

it can help you sharpen your dodging so i'd say try it

[hallow niche]

60 hours

[lean drum]

280 hours

[hallow niche]

Kk

[hard zodiac]

I'm 20 hours up hehe

[lean drum]

But i was fucking around for most of it

[thick wing]

Sorry again🗿, ||I’m doing a steelsoul run and I’d like to know which order do you recommend to pick up those items : Cristal heart, that one dive from the soul master and the monarch wings (I want to take the smallest time possible)||

[hard zodiac]

60 hours of mine are just ||P1-P4 AB + P5 + radhog||

[turbid beacon]

same i have 40 hours and most hours of that where spent attempting ||hornet 1|| (it was my first playthrough)

[thick wing]

Guys what are the best ||charmes for the second hornet fight??||

[scenic egret]

what do you have(make sure to spoiler tag the image)

[turbid beacon]

||crystal heart||, ||dive||, ||monarch wings||

[scenic egret]

also how comfortable are you with ||spells||, theyre very strong especially for this fight

[scenic egret]

||dive, heart, and you need heart to get wings||

[thorny token]

Can be in some cases, depends on boss

[turbid beacon]

if you cant dodge, i guess yeah, but some bosses punish you for not dodging

[lean drum]

I still dont have ||p1-p4 ab||

[thorny token]

||Half and half, but only of you struggle on it, don't go full heal mode||

[thick wing]

Cant send it rn but i will send it in like 10 minutes

[hard zodiac]

Do them trust

[scenic egret]

||heal|| is a spoiler(rules got changed)

[hallow niche]

Sorry

[thorny token]

No fucking way. Didn't we agree that we didn't care bout that?

[turbid beacon]

do what works for you dont let random strangers on the internet make you do something you aint comfortable with

[hallow niche]

Ok

[thick wing]

|| the one that u kinda dash down is good and im using it but i am not using the beam one||

[hard zodiac]

No need to ||heal|| if you don't get hit 🤯

Jokes aside, it pays more to go full offensive build and kill enemies faster

[thick wing]

Yea that’s right I’m stupid

[hallow niche]

But because is just ||heal i never use spells :(||

[lean drum]

||hired|| is best name considering this new change

[lean drum]

Start using em

[hard zodiac]

It's so ironic that charms are not spoilers but ||heal|| somehow is

[thorny token]

They are

[scenic egret]

idk zal probably missed it

[scenic egret]

zal changed it

[thick wing]

Wait why ????

[hallow niche]

I try but i never get any good use out of it

[scenic egret]

charm is not longer a spoiler🎉

[turbid beacon]

as i said do whatever you want as long as its working

[thorny token]

my modmail worked!

[vital ferry]

how can i open this?

[hard zodiac]

Nail Map Boss Charm and Shop are no longer spoilers

[hallow niche]

Ok

[thorny token]

It's a one way door

[hallow niche]

You need to access it ||from the other side||

[thick wing]

||From the other side||

[thorny token]

Ayy get in

[vital ferry]

how can i go there

[turbid beacon]

you have to go from the ||right side, you can go there from: basin, royal waterways, resting grounds, kingdom's edge||

[lean drum]

?tag uncspoilers

[hallow niche]

One way is ||by going through a area under the city||

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[scenic egret]

if you cant do something, you either come back later when you have an ability or go around

[hard zodiac]

Now give us spoiler-less ||heal|| pretty pls

[thick wing]

||Ancient basin I think||

[lean drum]

GUYS. STOP UNCSPOILERS

[thorny token]

WAIT THEY REMOVED ||MASK||

[turbid beacon]

they asked

[vital ferry]

what ability

[scenic egret]

when helping people, its important to make sure the other peorson knows what youre mentioning. spoiler tags are for other people, not the person youre helping. this also applies to you @thick wing

[thick wing]

BUT HOW CAN WE KNOW 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[thorny token]

Hell nah I'm not standing for this

[lean drum]

Ask for their fucking map

[lean drum]

They asked for help, not to be spoiled 5 region names

[scenic egret]

well it may not be an ability, im just saying in general. if you phsyically cant do anything, take another path or come back later

[hard zodiac]

tbh this chat should have 15 seconds slowmode

omg zal in chat

[scenic egret]

no.

[plain kettle]

looks like i missed that one, let me fix that before TKD starts spouting bullshti again

[turbid beacon]

aight

[thorny token]

Oh zal is typing

[hallow niche]

You can get there without ||new abilities||

[vital ferry]

ok thanks

[lean drum]

Healing and mask

[thorny token]

Hey zal hyd

[hard zodiac]

🆙

[plain kettle]

1 blocked message

[scenic egret]

mask is not a spoiler

[thorny token]

Bro saved himself from another 8 message modmail 💀💀💀

[hard zodiac]

People would then put effort into checking what they are writing then tbh iirc imo ngl

[lean drum]

tkd change your name to ||tkd||

[scenic egret]

now imagine if a random person is a troll or drops a spoiler in chat and then youre waiting 15 seconds to tell them to tag or ping mods

[thorny token]

Surely

[hard zodiac]

That's such a specific scenario tho

[thick wing]

There’s no good choice anyway

[lean drum]

specific
happens literally every single day

[scenic egret]

no ive had it happen many times with the spoiler one

[thick wing]

No slowmode makes this channel so CHAOTIC tho

[hard zodiac]

I haven't been a regular here in a while so my opinion matters less tbh y'all know more

[thorny token]

ANYWAYS... Fellas let's move this to #hk-general please

[hallow niche]

Is ||pogoing a spoiler?||

[scenic egret]

yes

[lean drum]

chat do i count as part of the hk help community

[thorny token]

It doesn't matter how long (well kinda), it matters how well you can piss off the mods without stepping over any lines. I've been here four months and have somehow made like 3 changes (for better or worse idk)

[hallow niche]

Ok

[scenic egret]

yes, youre the equivelant of the bad cop

[thorny token]

Very accurate

[hard zodiac]

Last I was like full-time hk helper was like late 2019

[lean drum]

“How do i beat this boss”
yall: posts wall
me: “free iirc”

[hallow niche]

Im probably just the dude that goes here when something doesn’t work on the first try…

[thorny token]

I'm the only one who posts walls 💀

[scenic egret]

"how do i get past this wall"
other people: uncspoilers
me: go around
you: literally just fucking explore its not that hard

[lean drum]

im only one that says free iirc

[lean drum]

actually real

[scenic egret]

i post an immense amount of walls for specific things like ||markoth, wk, gpz, and fc||

and i hand type them rta

[thorny token]

I have the ||H2 wall saved into my phone, and use others alot too ||

[lean drum]

i wanna make an hk helper tier list

[thorny token]

Already done by me

[lean drum]

what

damn i got my ideas stolen in the past

[hard zodiac]

What happened to Kanna's wall document

[scenic egret]

cringe, you need to type them real time

[lean drum]

they also stole my idea for electricity

[thorny token]

Few links have been posted here, if not you can find it in the Hollow Knight Talent Agency

[hard zodiac]

The what

What talent agency

[scenic egret]

it got rebranded you just dont know

[serene panther]

this might be a stretch, ||but with the broken vessel, can u kill the dudes that go into him making the broken vessel weaker?||

[thorny token]

||the Hollow Knight Talent agency||

[thorny token]

You can but it has no effect

[serene panther]

aw, was rly hoping it would

[thorny token]

I wish

[lean drum]

Do you want tips for him

[serene panther]

oh 100%

[scenic egret]

what attack do you struggle with most?

[lean drum]

Heres a big tip: ||shaman stone|| is actually cracked in this fight

like almost guarenteed double hits every time with ||vengeful spirit||

[thorny token]

Could you by chance send a picture of your ||charms and inventory please?||, we could give you specific builds and personalized tips if you want

Just make sure they are spoiler tagged

[serene panther]

ye sure

[thorny token]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[serene panther]

ye ofc

[lean drum]

Also, if you are careful you can practically ||stunlock him||

He ||staggers in like 8 hits||

[serene panther]

holy shit

[hard zodiac]

Hired so smart

[thorny token]

It would require some charms though

I face tank him but depending on how stacked he is I'm not sure how it would go

[scenic egret]

its still a lot of stagger time since they take a while before attacking

[lean drum]

ok i double checked in wiki

Its 9 if you combo him

[thorny token]

Surely ||stagger, stun lock|| should have tags perhaps idk lmao

[serene panther]

my camera is shit rn

[lean drum]

I did tag the former

Latter might be tags idk ill just do it

[thorny token]

Ah yes, using ||compass|| in a fight

200iq play

[serene panther]

u already know

lol, i need it to get there, im lost

[thorny token]

||steady body instead iirc||

[serene panther]

ight

[hard zodiac]

110% dmg /s

[lean drum]

Dude the ||bench ||is like right next to the fight

2 ||cdashes|| away

[thorny token]

Tag ||bench||

Because weird

[hard zodiac]

It doesn't make sense

[serene panther]

Where? @lean drum

[lean drum]

my man didnt open the shortcut

[hard zodiac]

How ||bench and heal|| = spoiler but not shop and charm

[lean drum]

oml

[serene panther]

0: shortcut?

[scenic egret]

theres a shortcut to the right of the arena

[lean drum]

Yes

[serene panther]

oh shit

where?

[upper dawn]

does anybody got any tips for 2nd phase of ||soul tyrant||?

[thorny token]

||dash and pray bois, dash and pray||

[serene panther]

yes, but then there is a wall

[lean drum]

Just ||dash away when he attacks||

[scenic egret]

jumping is very cool and lets you evade the ||shockwav||

[thorny token]

One way shortcut, before you enter hit it

[lean drum]

And then spam him when hes standing still

[thorny token]

From the arena side

[serene panther]

? idk what u mean

[lean drum]

If you are big pro like me you can hit him midair

[hard zodiac]

||jump jump upward attack dash|| should the perfect time to dodge his attack

[lean drum]

Like you open it from the left

Then you can freely go through

[scenic egret]

right of the arena.

[serene panther]

lemme go to the place and try to figure this out

how tf am i 1hp

[shut sparrow]

it's just generally about ||face dancing I'm guessing on absrad||

[thorny token]

Surely...

[serene panther]

ohhhh,

lemme find that

[thorny token]

[hard zodiac]

How do you get the very cool map iirc

[lean drum]

map website

[hard zodiac]

Link pls iirc

[lean drum]

personally i find it unreadable but some ppl like it

[scenic egret]

you can just look up hkmap

[lean drum]

||https://scripterswar.com/hollowknight/map||

[scenic egret]

and youll probably find a result

[scenic egret]

||probably spoiler tag, dont want people randomly clicking on it||

[upper dawn]

I JUST BEAT HIIIIM

[scenic egret]

there are probably some people who think its spoiler free(judging based on the average interactions in thsi channel)

[upper dawn]

now to do it again

and again

and again

[thorny token]

That one is too bad

Very pixely

[thorny token]

Iirc it's ||hallownest.net||, but I downloaded a file off reddit which is basically that website as a single photo which I can zoom in on.

Is very cool iirc

Would send photo to you in dm but file is like 250mb

[serene panther]

got it open

[lean drum]

Me when compression

[thorny token]

Cool, now you don't have to spend as long

[serene panther]

imma get ||150 geo so i can get the bench now, cause i keep dying so i got nothin||

[lean drum]

Wait

[serene panther]

huh

[lean drum]

You didnt buy it already??

[serene panther]

no lol

[thorny token]

Don't think that would compress very well...

[serene panther]

i used my ||geo on the map||

[lean drum]

My face when

[thorny token]

Mfw no ||zotewall ||so have to do it myself

[serene panther]

it was so worth, now i cant get lost

:D

[radiant forge]

What is|| Zote rush mode and can i do that rush if i havent saved zote||

[thorny token]

A mode where you rush ||zote|| for eternity, and yes

[hard zodiac]

Can't you compress it / upload it on some image website

[lean drum]

[thorny token]

I can find you the original Reddit post if you want?

[hard zodiac]

Sure that'd do

[radiant forge]

Where do i find it

[lean drum]

||bullshit hidden ceiling in an endgame area||

THE endgame area infact

[radiant forge]

||godhome?||

[lean drum]

The area ive been in for 100 hours

[lean drum]

Yea

[radiant forge]

Ok

[lean drum]

||hall of gods specifically ||

[hard zodiac]

tbh I've played ||Godhome more than Hollow Knight||

[radiant forge]

Is ||98%|| considered end game

[lean drum]

id say real, but i do randos

[lean drum]

Thats like late mid game

or like early lategame

[hard zodiac]

Percentage doesn't equal how far you're into the game

[turbid beacon]

do i need ||monarch wings to save bretta||?

[shut sparrow]

no

[hard zodiac]

gm nonsenf gncb

[shut sparrow]

what's up Oswald

[hard zodiac]

Nothing much wbu

[lean drum]

nonsenf in help be like

[shut sparrow]

ya same

[radiant forge]

Is like compleating ||all bosses execpt lost kin,abs. Radiance,nkg and pure vessel|| endgame

[shut sparrow]

everyone defines that on their own but I would say so

[lean drum]

Lategame imo

Also crazy to see ||lost kin|| in a list with ||absrad||

[radiant forge]

I have|| every abilty|| tho

[lean drum]

like thats insane to me

[radiant forge]

I hate|| lost kin||😭😭😭

[scenic egret]

||emojis are not spoilers, its actually worse to spoiler tag them since people will now think theyre a spoiler and make connections||

[serene panther]

should i replace ||compass with steady, or take grub song out along with compass, and use a different item, (cause now i have 2 notches)||

[lean drum]

Former

[serene panther]

?

[lean drum]

The former

Do the former option

[serene panther]

ohhh

ight

[radiant forge]

In what|| pantheon|| are ||sisters of battle||

[lean drum]

5

[plucky glade]

What's the best ||charm build|| for the ||Grimm boss battle if I have all 40 and 10 notches||

[radiant forge]

Can i atleast practice ||them in godseeker mode||

[remote jacinth]

Yes

[true finch]

||you'd need to encounter them once first tho||

[scenic egret]

||how good are you with spells and nail arts||

[radiant forge]

Can i practice ||bosses i didnt even defeat||

[lean drum]

||shaman grimmchild quickslash sbody nmg||

[scenic egret]

you have to face them once

[remote jacinth]

Not in ||godseeker mode||

[lean drum]

Yea

[serene panther]

||This a good build for broken vessel?||

[lean drum]

wait what are we talking about

[plucky glade]

||Good with spells ig but I never used nail arts||

[scenic egret]

||qs|| is mid when ||nmg is there, you only need one||

[lean drum]

fair

[lean drum]

Then start using em

[scenic egret]

||shaman stone, spell twister, grimmchild, soul catcher, grubsong|| is a good build

[plucky glade]

Damn for this fight? 😭

Wait do I have to be wearing ||grimm child||

[scenic egret]

yes

[remote jacinth]

Yes

[plucky glade]

Sucks

[remote jacinth]

Otherwise he'll just decline

[true finch]

Which ||spells|| do u have btw?

[lean drum]

justjum lurking

[plucky glade]

All

[lean drum]

nvm

[plucky glade]

I see

[lean drum]

Wrong ||grimm||

[true finch]

Wait really...

[lean drum]

mhm

[scenic egret]

yes

[true finch]

Damn

[remote jacinth]

Though it's still useful for ||pufferfish phase||

[plucky glade]

What am I doing something wrong 😭

[scenic egret]

tags

[true finch]

No I did something wrong, don't worry, ||spells|| are still good

*DID... autocorrect...

[scenic egret]

when to use them:||
dive can be used if you dont want to deal with the next attack
shriek for his uppercut
shade soul literally anytime you want, be careful of the recoil for the spikes though||

spoiler tags!!!!

[plucky glade]

Tbh I've never used ||dive|| in battle

[remote jacinth]

Its good for invincibility frames for certain bosses

[lean drum]

Its the best one

[scenic egret]

tags!!!

[plucky glade]

Isnt this guy kinda floaty tho

[true finch]

Against ||Grimm||, ||dive|| isn't probably that good imo

[radiant forge]

I deleted it

[scenic egret]

it isnt good sadly

[remote jacinth]

Agreed, ||dive is better for slower , grounded bosses||

[plucky glade]

Well I'll try and go for him

Thank u all

[serene panther]

whens a ||good time to heal?||

[lean drum]

||staggers||

[serene panther]

ight

||also when she slams down an released those little orange acid balls, should i heal then if im far||

[lean drum]

Naw

usually it fails

[serene panther]

oh

[remote jacinth]

Good opportunity for hits there

[serene panther]

ight then

i need more practice is it, usally thats what gets me the kill

[shut sparrow]

you can also heal whenever ||it does the attack where it swings its nail above its head a couple times||

[scenic egret]

you can actually also heal if youre on the other side of the arena, unless they do the ||dive||

[serene panther]

oh alr

rn im ||struggling mainly with what way to dash, and when she is actualy gonna go above me and dive bomb me||

btw how much stages does she have

[lean drum]

wym stages

[true finch]

1

[remote jacinth]

2

[lean drum]

When she stalls in the air she ||dives||

[true finch]

2??

[remote jacinth]

The one where she starts shooting acid everywhere

[scenic egret]

||the stages you refer to are known as staggers, which is a mechanic in the game for bosses.||

[lean drum]

grev lurking

[serene panther]

like uhm, everytime u knock her, when does she actually die

[remote jacinth]

Oh ok

[lean drum]

Depends

[serene panther]

ohhh ok

[scenic egret]

these are based off of hits, not damage

[serene panther]

mmm ok

[true finch]

||that depends on ur damage etc, its not always the same||

[remote jacinth]

What ||nail|| do you have

[scenic egret]

so asking for number of ||staggers|| is completely useless

[lean drum]

Somewhere between 5 and idk

[serene panther]

oh ok

[scenic egret]

tags

[shut sparrow]

spoiler tags

[serene panther]

||sharpened||

[hardy grove]

Spoiler tag.

[shut sparrow]

spoiler tags

[serene panther]

beat u to it

[thick wing]

rip

[lean drum]

otso lurking

[jade sedge]

||(Fyi, bv has no known gender)||

[lean drum]

a playtester said she

[remote jacinth]

So it'll ||stagger about 4-5 times||

[hardy grove]

she?

[lean drum]

Which contradicts all lore but

[serene panther]

i ust assume genders on them cause i dont like calling them "it"

[jade sedge]

Graig?

[thick wing]

wtf me

[serene panther]

ight

[jade sedge]

Anyways, playtesters dont necessarily know lore

[slender mural]

||All the vessels don’t have a gender||

[scenic egret]

still not a good measure because ||spells||

[remote jacinth]

Then 3-5

[serene panther]

how much health do||es bv have||

[scenic egret]

525

[thick wing]

525

[serene panther]

ight

[thick wing]

If you don't know that on the top of your head rip

[serene panther]

also is it worth to try to use the|| decending dark ||

[true finch]

Yes

[scenic egret]

it is very very strong

[serene panther]

when should i try to use it

[serene panther]

up to 65 damage right

[scenic egret]

up to 88 because of some funky stuff

[serene panther]

damnnn

[scenic egret]

whenever you want, it gives ||invincibility||

[jade sedge]

||A playtester also said that hornet has 8 eyes like a spider, 4 behind both eye holes of the mask||

[shut sparrow]

||it can vary between 0 and 8|| I believe

[thick wing]

Only if you use ||shaman stone||

[scenic egret]

well 0 and infinity

[scenic egret]

oh i seee

[thick wing]

Else yeah it's 65

[serene panther]

even when its preparing?

[shut sparrow]

||infinite staggers?||

[scenic egret]

no, only when going down

[serene panther]

aw

[scenic egret]

it does give some after you land

[serene panther]

i am using it anywayoh nice

[scenic egret]

yes

[thick wing]

then it's 88

[serene panther]

fuck yeah

[shut sparrow]

how

[scenic egret]

debug

[remote jacinth]

The highest I can think of is 40

[serene panther]

ok time for attemp uhm, 5 or whatever it|| is on bv||

[scenic egret]

[shut sparrow]

that doesn't count

[remote jacinth]

True

[scenic egret]

you can get 23 with ||elegy|| if that does ||stagger||

[remote jacinth]

I was thinking of ||nail binding+ old nail, though it'd be 40||

[scenic egret]

||binding|| isnt available here

[thick wing]

29

[remote jacinth]

You mentioned debug tho

[shut sparrow]

I only get to ||13 with elegy||

[thick wing]

You have a boss which has 525 health, ||elegy with old nail + comboing||

[shut sparrow]

oh yeah ||combos||

||elegy is 3 damage tho I think||

[remote jacinth]

What's the difference between ||combos and normal attacking||

[shut sparrow]

||if you manage to hit a boss consecutively without not hitting it for a set amount of time it will take less hits for a stagger. For example if you normally fight broken vessel it will stagger after 13 hits. However if you manage to hit it 7 times in a row after a stagger without ever taking longer than 1 second between a hit it will already stagger after these 7 instead of 13||

[remote jacinth]

Makes sense

[vital ferry]

guys is ||there any stag station in the ancient basin ||?

[lean drum]

Yea

[scenic egret]

its a hidden wall

[vital ferry]

where

[lean drum]

Its very hidden though..

[remote jacinth]

||far right, past the kingsmould||

[vital ferry]

here?

[scenic egret]

yes

[vital ferry]

ok thanks for helping

[scenic egret]

idk if you can reach it yet though

youll need some abilities

[thick wing]

It's 2, making it the lowest damage output

[shut sparrow]

hmm ||damage is usually rounded up. Are you sure?||

[vital ferry]

i reach it
but no enough|| geo...||

[thick wing]

Not for this, it's rounded to the nearest even integer

[scenic egret]

rip ||geo is a spoiler||

[vital ferry]

man

[thick wing]

moneyyyyyy

[light totem]

It's in king's pass, no spoiler

[thick wing]

guys i really need a ||pale ore to upgrade my nail, i heard there is one in ancient basin but i cant find it,|| can someone tell me where it is?

[scenic egret]

rules got changed, ||kp is also a spoiler now||. check pins for more info

[light totem]

Look to the left of the ||tram pass||, don't use it, just walk around it

[light totem]

Oh ok

[thick wing]

can you send me a ||map|| and mark it for me please?

[jade sedge]

No, send your map and we can mark it on that

[thick wing]

oh right

[jade sedge]

We cant send maps because they have way too much unnecessary spoilers

[thick wing]

one sec

[scenic egret]

here

[thick wing]

hmm

ill look for it

thanks

[plain kettle]

new rule
randomly choose spoiled keywords every day
if you don't spoiler them you are banned

[shut sparrow]

who chooses

[plain kettle]

its random

[thick wing]

Zal pinned a message to this channel. See all pinned messages.

[scenic egret]

finally they legalized gambling in here

[shut sparrow]

You've fallen right into my trap. Sadly ||"random"|| was today's keyword. Goodbye Zal

[thick wing]

Zal would geo really be a spoiler since shop isn't?

[plucky glade]

||Grimm is my bitch now||

[spark sierra]

does anyone know where this is? || I left greenpath yesterday and i got crystal heart so im able to go across the river now ||

[scenic egret]

[scenic egret]

||right of fungal wastes||

also youre supposed to use ||mantis claw|| for it

[spark sierra]

thanks

[scenic egret]

the intended route is going up

[spark sierra]

oh ive got that

[spark sierra]

tnx

[thick wing]

However just use ||crystal heart|| lol

You won't miss much

[thick wing]

||fungal wastes, donot know the exact place||

in ||kingdoms edge there is someone who wants to teach me something for 800 geo,|| should i take it? what does it do?

[lean drum]

Its good

Take ir

[rapid rivet]

take it

[meager thistle]

Just pay him

[thick wing]

i need like 300 more

||geo||

😭

[rapid rivet]

then farm the enemies outside

[analog peak]

nah its fine, i actually find ||facedancing|| really fun, only some attacks im still struggling with

[scenic egret]

||facedancing is a spoiler||

[analog peak]

cus i wanna be done with ||asc/rad absrad|| asap

[light totem]

||it gives you a new ability, but most people think it's the worst one of its type and most new players don't use that type of ability, so only get it if you aren't saying for something else||

[lean drum]

What people think its the worst one

Its literally the second best

Also new players not using it is a skissue

[light totem]

It's the one that starts with C right

[thick wing]

what does it do??

[simple island]

The ||small hoppers|| a couple rooms away give like 30 geo on death, you can farm them for real quick cash

[thick wing]

30 each??

[simple island]

Yeah

[thick wing]

i thought the big ones give 30

[lean drum]

No

[analog peak]

which casual version you talking about btw?

[lean drum]

You dont stay up there

[simple island]

The difference between the two is surprisingly small

[lean drum]

You do it once and come down

And go up again

[light totem]

Sorry, I was wrong. It's pretty good, I will tell you exactly what it does in the next spoiler

[analog peak]

oh that yeah, i might try to ||shriek|| in the middle of its face but if that wont work too well for me ill just go down

[light totem]

||when you attack with your nail, hold the button, you will start glowing white, then if you dash and release the attack button, you will do a super horizontal swing that does a good amount of damage and has great range||

That's what it does if you buy it

[thick wing]

i am trying to defeat ||the second hornet fight||, will it help me?

[light totem]

Uhhh, I don't think so, just because of how much she moves and some of her attacks make ||dashing|| really hard to do

[thick wing]

so for now ill just try to get the second ||nail upgrade||

[light totem]

Sounds good

[thick wing]

noooooo i lost 500 ||geosssss||

[light totem]

How did you lose it?

[thick wing]

accidentally died twice

[light totem]

Ahhh

[thick wing]

next to it there is like a corpse on a stick, does it do something?

i can hit it

[light totem]

It does indeed do something if ya whack it enough

(Also that's a training dummy)

[thick wing]

it spawned two big monsters on me😭

[light totem]

Tee hee 🤭

[thick wing]

because i lost all of my ||geo||, should i give up on it for now?

[shut sparrow]

It really isn't that important. Keep it in mind, it will definitely help for later stuff but it isn't worth the hassle rn

[light totem]

Yeah it's not that helpful, especially for the price at your stage in the game

[thick wing]

yea i didnt even get the ||lantern yet||

im saving up for it

i have like ||1200 geo in my bank||

[light totem]

Do you have any ||relics?||

[thick wing]

yea, a lot. i am going to sell them soon

[light totem]

Alrighty

[verbal saffron]

who is mio peak and why are they copying nonsenf

[thick wing]

where is the ||npc||for them in ||city of tears?||

i forgot

[light totem]

Send a screenshot of your map so I can circle it spoilessly

[shut sparrow]

who is that I have never heard of them you are lying please bye

[thick wing]

i have all of the ||city of tears map||

i explored all of it

[light totem]

Ok, then one second

How do you mark an image as a spoiler on mobile?

[thick wing]

you click on it and then chose spoiler

[shut sparrow]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[light totem]

Thanks

[thick wing]

thanks

[light totem]

Np

[thick wing]

im so stupid i already have shopkeepers things

[light totem]

Lol

[thick wing]

he doesnt buy ||relic eggs||

he does buy other things i have

[light totem]

||rancid eggs||?

[thick wing]

ohh yea

that stuff

[supple ruin]

also what are they for

[light totem]

What

[thick wing]

i think you also sell them

[supple ruin]

||rancid eggs||

[thick wing]

i think im going to buy that ||lantern finally||

you need to use || twice

[supple ruin]

ik i just did it wrong

[light totem]

You can sell ||rancid eggs|| in specific sircumstances, but their main purpose is to be given to an NPC for something else

[light totem]

Woooo

It unlocks a lot

[thick wing]

i have a lot of what he buys so im basically rich

[supple ruin]

||the one in waterways||

[light totem]

That's where you can buy them

[supple ruin]

wait what

oh right

i forgot

[thick wing]

I think the maximum amount ||of staggers you can get on a boss is 117||

[light totem]

How on earth would you get that many

[thick wing]

||Lost Kin on ascended with grubbersfly elegy oldnail comboing||

[supple ruin]

how is that even possible

[supple ruin]

ok

[light totem]

||heavy blow|| makes a boss stagger one more time right?

[thick wing]

oh fair point

[livid slate]

any tips to leave ||crystal heart|| ?

i'm ssstuck in it

[light totem]

Use it to the left of where you took it, you don't have to retrack the parkour

[plucky glade]

||Is there anything I should know before my 2nd fight with Grimm?

Like something I can only do before the fight and my save will miss if I dont||

[thick wing]

no not really

[light totem]

Nope, nothing gets locked if you fight him

[scenic egret]

use it

[light totem]

Well, nothing in addition to fighting him

[livid slate]

use what ?

[thick wing]

That brings us to 137

[light totem]

Holy guacamole

[scenic egret]

the thing you just got

[plucky glade]

Ok thank u

[livid slate]

||super dash|| ?

[light totem]

Yes

[thick wing]

Which means this becomes 32

[plucky glade]

Nahh 2hp per hit is diabolical

[light totem]

Honestly I wanna see someone ||stagger lost kin on ascended with grubberfly's, old nail, heavy blow, 137 times|| in one run

[thick wing]

Lowest damage output in the game

[livid slate]

)= i'm stuck in ||crystal heart||

[light totem]

Dang, I'm assuming ||that's old nails elegy + binding right||

[light totem]

Can you send a screenshot please

[plucky glade]

What

[thick wing]

with or without ||binding|| makes no difference. It round to the nearest even integer

[livid slate]

i don't have the map for this area

[light totem]

Oh

[light totem]

Just of the room you're in, no map

[plucky glade]

||I'm talking about nightmare king grimm||

[scenic egret]

explore

[light totem]

Uhh, that's not ||crystal heart||

[livid slate]

i was trying to go to the place where ||cornifer|| was in i could use the ||super dash|| to leave

[supple ruin]

||is there an official map for godhome or the white palace||

[scenic egret]

no

[supple ruin]

ok

[livid slate]

ye i left it since i'm trying to go to ||dirthmouth||

[supple ruin]

||should i upgrade them to unbreakable||

||heart, greed and strength||

also ||i found cloth after beating traitor lord in basin then in dirtmouth but then she disappeared||

[livid slate]

[meager thistle]

If you want to

[scenic egret]

if you want, theyre not too good

[meager thistle]

Not necessary in the slightest

[livid slate]

i hate this game

[acoustic sigil]

Based

[livid slate]

2 hours of my life trying to leave this ||crystal place ||to no progress

[acoustic sigil]

Spoiler tags and such

[thick wing]

oh hiya thommie

[acoustic sigil]

Hi

[light totem]

Not if you have already done most bosses

[livid slate]

LETS GOO

[light totem]

Hurray!

[supple ruin]

||defeated the mantis lords but i havent killed any mantises||

[livid slate]

2 hours of thinking like a primitive man

[light totem]

Spoiler tag

[long kettle]

still needs tags tho

[livid slate]

my bad

[supple ruin]

need to complete ||hunters journal||

[scenic egret]

tags

[light totem]

Tags

💀

[long kettle]

Damn, guess ||it is betrayal time||

[supple ruin]

nooooooooooooooo

[long kettle]

not pleasant but it must be done

[supple ruin]

is that all the encountered in the game

[long kettle]

||There is a number of encountered enemies at the bottom right||

[supple ruin]

ik

but is that all

[long kettle]

wdym?

[supple ruin]

all the enemies and etc

[scenic egret]

there are some which arent counted towards the number and some which are completely optional(the ||hunter pretends they dont exist||)

[acoustic sigil]

He wasn't aware of the dlc fr

[scenic egret]

you are missing quite a couple of the ones that dont add to the counter(because theyre too hard/obscure so tc made it like that)

[livid slate]

is there any way to get more ||notches||

[scenic egret]

bottom right of ||crossroads|| may have some cool stuff

you can also just find them on the ground randomly

[light totem]

I think there are ||163||

[livid slate]

alr

[light totem]

||168|| wow

[long kettle]

||"try re-exploring crossroads" might have been less specific here, but idk if it matters||

[scenic egret]

as i said before, a couple dont add to the counter

[supple ruin]

here are the ones i got

[thick wing]

i just got back to the ||crossroads ||after a long time and why does it look like this

[scenic egret]

spoiler tags

||it looks like that because doing some things advances the game chronologically||

[long kettle]

||It just be like that now||

[scenic egret]

basically meaning time passed while you were away

[thick wing]

damm

[scenic egret]

and in the time, some ||orange juice|| started existing from somewhere

[supple ruin]

like how it happens irl

[long kettle]

||I think you missed one in the abyss||

[thick wing]

is it worth exploring more?

[supple ruin]

tell me

[scenic egret]

if you want

[long kettle]

||far right room||

[supple ruin]

just tell me

[thick wing]

like is there something new there or it just looks like this?

[scenic egret]

||hidden wall above you on the path to shade cloak. theres 2 paths, one requires shade cloak, and one doesnt need it(top path)||

[long kettle]

I did?

[scenic egret]

look around

[thick wing]

ok i will, thanks

[long kettle]

Tags

[light totem]

Yep

Have fun

[scenic egret]

you need spoiler tags in this channel for all content in the game to prevent the spoiling of other players that also need help

[thick wing]

how many ||healthe things can i buy from the npc in sirt mouth?||

[scenic egret]

so please edit/delete your message

[light totem]

||4 mask shards total||

[thick wing]

oh ok thanks

[light totem]

@minor stone ?tags

[languid radish]

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[light totem]

Bruh... what's the command

[thin plover]

?whyspoilers

[light totem]

?spoilers

?spoilerhelp

Just delete the message unsheathed

[supple ruin]

||i hate myself for killing the mantises||

[scenic egret]

delete/edit the message please

[scenic egret]

the command is ?tag spoilers

[light totem]

They respawn through the power of determination

[long kettle]

||You did what had to be done. Now you can read about the lives you ruined :)||

[supple ruin]

undertale ref

[light totem]

But it refused

[supple ruin]

= )

[scenic egret]

final warning, mods will be committing murder at your local walmart soon

[light totem]

While you're at the local Walmart of course

[orchid fossil]

counting the seconds until it hits 10 min

[scenic egret]

i do it earlier

because if they dont respond in 5 minutes, probably not going to in 10 minutes

plus mods usually take a minute or more to respond

[light totem]

Womp womp

[long kettle]

ok, lets call the mods now yeah?

[jade sedge]

You cant, thats the rule now

[light totem]

deep breath <@&283547423706447872>

[scenic egret]

frick

[long kettle]

is it?

[jade sedge]

We have to give then time to respond....

[long kettle]

I checked pinned and there is nothing about that there

[light totem]

Sh sh what do I do

Uhh uhh by the power of the Silk I hereby disappear

[scenic egret]

also you shouldve replied to the spoiler so they know what the hell is going on

[orchid fossil]

state your final will and testament

[thick wing]

[scenic egret]

#hk-help message edit to add this link in to your message

anyways zal kjill#hk-help message

[jade sedge]

Not all rules are there but its been that for a while. Im not sure how set to stone the 10 mins is but a rule is that we have to give people time to respond to a ping

[plain kettle]

@minor stone spoile your messages appropriately

[scenic egret]

i give up to 3 minutes, 5+ if im feeling generous(if its not that big of a spoiler)

[thick wing]

It's kinda something we've done for 2 years at this point

[supple ruin]

||so u guys said in the abyss shad cloak room right||

[scenic egret]

yes

[long kettle]

Ok. This is just the first I am hearing of it dispite being in the help chat more often than most other chats. But thanks for telling me, now I know

[scenic egret]

dont mind me just going a tad bit over the speed limit

[serene panther]

fuck yeahhh, killed ||bv||

[orchid fossil]

oh boy

don’t make us summon mods again, spoil the messages

[thin plover]

hey spoiler tag

[minor stone]

It's just bosses though

[supple ruin]

where now

[orchid fossil]

[scenic egret]

||take the top path, breakable wall above you||

ALL content in the game

[orchid fossil]

boss names are still spoilers!

[scenic egret]

check the pins for more info(mods will be summoned again)

[supple ruin]

found it

before hitting it

the light

[thick wing]

guys for the ||second nail upgrade i need a pale ore, but do i also need geos? if i do then how much||

[serene panther]

800 i think

[minor stone]

Bunch of stuck in the muds

[thick wing]

ok thanks

[nimble holly]

@minor stone use spoiler tags or dont use the channel its not up for debate

[scenic egret]

yes, ||and spoiler tags||

[supple ruin]

ok

[minor stone]

I dont know how to use spoiler tags

[orchid fossil]

#hk-help message

check da pins

[serene panther]

to confirm, yes it is

[scenic egret]

?tag pins2

[languid radish]

No tag pins2 found.

[orchid fossil]

oh i did the wrong pin whoops

[serene panther]

how far into the gamedo u have to be to check what bosses u have killed? late game, end game?

[scenic egret]

never(very very late, only some of them)

[serene panther]

aw

[scenic egret]

there is no way to check every single one

[serene panther]

m

[thick wing]

s

[serene panther]

is there a website or smth tha u can log into (thats safe) so u can check the bosses killed

is that a thing

[supple ruin]

damn|| the lifeblood core theme is amazing||

where can ||cloth be found after she disappears from dirtmouth||

[shut sparrow]

||dirtmouth needs spoiler tags and nowhere||

||she's gone after Dirtmouth nowhere to be found||

[shut sparrow]

well, I guess there is the wiki which simply has every boss listed. I really recommend not checking there until the very very end and you have done everything. There is much more left than you think I believe. Except of course this is your second playthough or something

[serene panther]

ye imma check later in the game, and its my 1st

[radiant forge]

Does ||un. Strenght double your nail damage||

[green horizon]

||multiplies by 1.5x||

[supple ruin]

||lifeblood core theme sounds like when u learn a new spell||

[thick wing]

mhm

[serene panther]

||lfg, got the wings finally||

[wraith dawn]

Go to ||crossroads||

[serene panther]

only a day and 8 hours, and i already ||have wings, mantis claw, crystal hear, cloak, and ive killed mantis lord, dung defender, all of that, is that good? ||

[serene panther]

oo ight

[wraith dawn]

Pretty good, faster than me lol

[serene panther]

nice lol

im actually kinda decent at this game (i think)

although ik how fucking hard the end end game bosses are

[scenic egret]

stolen from the celeste server:This is a common question we see from beginners here. It is understandable that you are curious about how your accomplishments may compare to others'. However, others cannot fairly label what you've done as "good" or "bad." How you feel about it is easily the most important factor. If you feel good about it, then you did good! If you are unhappy or disappointed, then practice some more to improve!
Gradual improvement is fundamental to gaming, and is a natural place to find much of your satisfaction from playing Celeste. Focusing on how much you have improved and how much further you can go is a healthy and uplifting way to evaluate your work.

[thick wing]

Nothing in ||crossroads which needs wings tho||

[vital ferry]

guys ||how can i beat hornt she's soo hard to kill||

[scenic egret]

||only attack when she attacks, and also youll adapt to the speed after a while||

[rugged veldt]

Truly a monumental answer

[thick wing]

Geoguessr Silver 1 moment

[rugged veldt]

Oh congrats mate

[thick wing]

I have been lacking

[wraith dawn]

||crossroads turn into sumthin||

[thick wing]

Too much dominican republic and guatamala miz ups

[serene panther]

i do feel good, im happy about my progress in only a day of gameplay

[thick wing]

I mean it also does ||if you get a dreamer||

[scenic egret]

therefore you are good at the game

[wraith dawn]

But he doesn't have it

[serene panther]

what is it for exactly?

[wraith dawn]

It's just a little thing that happens

[serene panther]

hmmm ok

[lean drum]

like real time or playtime

[thick wing]

[wraith dawn]

In ||crossroads||

[serene panther]

play time

[lean drum]

thats good

[thick wing]

32 hours...eh not bad

[lean drum]

if it was real time i was gonna say thats absolutely insane for a beginner

[serene panther]

im proud of it

lmao yeah

oh yeah, real time, im just like that

[wraith dawn]

@serene panther tell me when u get to ||crossroads||

[serene panther]

ight

im heading there now

[wraith dawn]

Alr

[thick wing]

||Bro really wants that reaction huh||

[wraith dawn]

Ye

Lol

[slow yoke]

100 percent game completion means 112 right?

[acoustic sigil]

Context?

[lean drum]

100=112

[acoustic sigil]

Roughly

[slow yoke]

???

[wraith dawn]

No

[acoustic sigil]

It depends on the context

So I was asking in what context you are refering to it

[serene panther]

tf, no f||ast travel?||

[slow yoke]

||like whats the difference between completion and pure completion achievements?||

[thorny token]

Tags surely

[wraith dawn]

?

[wraith dawn]

Yeah that's tag

[thick wing]

One is 100, the other is 112

[serene panther]

i can||t fast travel||

[wraith dawn]

On like what

[slow yoke]

oh weird

[wraith dawn]

||stag?||

[slow yoke]

its worded weird

[thick wing]

Not really

[serene panther]

with that dude, riding on him to the requestion location, yknow

[wraith dawn]

That's like the explanation

[wraith dawn]

Oh

[acoustic sigil]

Why not

xy problem incoming

[serene panther]

no option to

[thorny token]

So true

[thick wing]

Brace yourselves

[wraith dawn]

[thorny token]

Huh?

[acoustic sigil]

||Can you send a screenshot of where you are stuck/trying to fast travel||

[slow yoke]

||can dlc be apart of the 100%?||

[thorny token]

Almost got caught out for tags there

[thick wing]

yeah

[serene panther]

imma just go on foot

[thorny token]

Fair

[thick wing]

You infact have to do dlc stuff to get base 100

[wraith dawn]

||Yeah all dlc part of 112%||

[serene panther]

its probaly apart of the weird thing thats happening

[acoustic sigil]

||Damn the lifeblood update||

[thick wing]

[lean drum]

wait why

oh wait ||hiveblood||

[thick wing]

||Hive Knight||

[lean drum]

one time i met someone that thought ||dream nail|| was added in ||hidden dreams|| dlc

[wraith dawn]

||and charm||

[lean drum]

i love the idea that beating the game was a dlc feature

[wraith dawn]

[thick wing]

No the charm is in the base game

Only the boss was added

[wraith dawn]

Oh I didn't know

[thick wing]

I do not lie when I say ||the lifeblood update|| is the best

[light totem]

||Weren't Stag stations in DLC too||

[lean drum]

yep totally

[thick wing]

tags and ||the hidden station|| was dlc

[lean drum]

also tags

[wraith dawn]

||Godhome for me||

[light totem]

Ohh right

[lean drum]

i saw a guy on reddit that thought ||stag stations|| were platforming challenges so he didnt buy any

[light totem]

Lolllll

[lean drum]

fr added like 200 hours of replayability

[thick wing]

We got the ||cleanest stagger|| in the game

[serene panther]

tf!? ||infected cross roads??? what happened!? the grub father and grubs better be ok.||

[lean drum]

any ||skin|| recommendations btw

[wraith dawn]

Ikr

[lean drum]

dw hes fine

[light totem]

||cries in radiant hall of gods||

[serene panther]

he better

[wraith dawn]

Yeah that is what happened

Also, ||grubfather is alright||

[lean drum]

fun fact: once you get all ||grubs||, ||grab your reward from grubfather. ||sit on a bench and visit ||grubfather again||. They have an extra surprise

[wraith dawn]

Arnar not that

[serene panther]

ooo

[lean drum]

cmon the extra little surprise is pretty fun

and cute

[light totem]

It really is

[lean drum]

and ||grubfather is happy||

[wraith dawn]

How is it cute

[light totem]

(That's nonjokingly true)

[acoustic sigil]

Super unnecessary?

[wraith dawn]

How?

[lean drum]

i dont tell them what happens

i just tell them something happens

[thick wing]

hired...

[wraith dawn]

Alr fine ik

[acoustic sigil]

Yeah but alluding to it already makes the discovery less natural

[light totem]

Spoiler for what happens when you get all ||grubs||, don't click if you don't know

||the grubs enter the grubfather and eat his insides to grow and have room to cocoon into grubberflies, it's their natural cycle and the grubfather is happy about it||

[lean drum]

see thats an uncspoiler

[acoustic sigil]

No it isn't

[thick wing]

He gives a warning

[acoustic sigil]

It was not directed at someone who doesn't know about it

[wraith dawn]

Ohhhhhhhh ok that makes sense

Spoiler of what happens when u get all ||grubs||
|| I thought grubfather ate them lol||

[verbal saffron]

||anyone here have radhog||

[thick wing]

He does

[light totem]

Heh yeah, team cherry made that intentionally misleading for people who weren't paying attention to detail

[verbal saffron]

arent you gonna check that off?

[light totem]

Even the achievement for getting all of them is called ||metamorphosis||

[wraith dawn]

[thick wing]

No like ||grubfather eats the grubs||

[acoustic sigil]

dontasktoask smh

[light totem]

I do

[verbal saffron]

bingoing rn

[scenic egret]

bad

[verbal saffron]

[lean drum]

me