hk-help

[arctic forum]

helpppp

[crystal tide]

Yeah?

[arctic forum]

im trying too do ||hunters journal|| stuff and I know it isnt required, but I want to kill ||menderbug||, and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. I am at the right location, and feel like I'm doing something wrong, but am doing everything right

ive been trying for some 2 hours now

[crystal tide]

Nah the % of him appearing is so low...

[arctic forum]

u mean 2%

[crystal tide]

I think you are doing everything right.

I'm not sure exactly

[mint sky]

hes just rare i guess

[crystal tide]

but whenever you jump into the ||well make sure you have enough soul||

[arctic forum]

i do

[mint sky]

ive been playing for ages and ive never seen him in person 😭

[crystal tide]

Then keep going!

I saw him by accident

[arctic forum]

me toooo

[crystal tide]

Two times actually

[mint sky]

ive never gotten him but my sibling got a different save and saw him twice in 15 mins

🤷

[arctic forum]

||I saw him once, but I didnt get a chance to kill him, because I was coming from the right side of the room, and not the well||

[crystal tide]

Well that's some good luck

[mint sky]

i was so mad you dont understand /j

[arctic forum]

the speedrun gets it second friggin try

[mint sky]

because of course

[undone flicker]

|| need help beating hornett ||

[arctic forum]

||shaw||

also spoiler tags

[leaden roost]

||Practice until you learn her attack patterns and go for safe nail hits. Also spam vengeful spirit whenever you can, it's equal to 3 nail strikes at that point in the game||

[undone flicker]

how many hits does it take to finish

[green horizon]

Put || before and after message

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (Charms, bosses, locations, etc.) to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[leaden roost]

||45 nail strikes or 15 vengeful spirit casts, or a combination of those||

[undone flicker]

thank you so much

I CAN ONLY DO 25 THEN I DIE 🤡

[leaden roost]

||Practice a bit more, you'll get there :p If you can manage 25 nail strikes & 7 spirits then it's gg||

[undone flicker]

i get 25 hits in total with spirit and nail

[leaden roost]

||How many spirits then||

[undone flicker]

no clue

[leaden roost]

lul

[undone flicker]

abt like 4

[bright sorrel]

||spirit(s)|| needs tags 🙀

[leaden roost]

||12 more nails or 4 more spirits and you win||

[undone flicker]

ok ill try

|| this game makes me wanna fckin kms ||

i just wanna sleep its 5:36am rn

nd got gcse at 9

[crystal tide]

Better to sleep then.

[fair lake]

Anika jumpscare.

[crystal tide]

You can comeback later

[undone flicker]

nah i promised myself id do it before sleep

[crystal tide]

don't exhaust yourself

[undone flicker]

i hate having to come back to thing i like doing stuff straight away

FUCK IT IM GOING SLEEP GN POOKIE BEARS

[slow yoke]

[daring willow]

Hi hellp!

[crystal tide]

Hii pixelcat!

[daring willow]

Hey kark

[trail cliff]

we both died at the same time on the first attempt and bro froze on the second attempt. now i gotta fight this guy the THIRD time.💀

[viscid heart]

where do u find the ability to go through these types of stuff?

[jade sedge]

Can you send a screenshot of your map

[viscid heart]

i have gotten every map

just tell me like the general direction

[jade sedge]

Its in ||waterways||

[viscid heart]

ok

[scarlet hull]

Isn’t that a spoiler or nah

[jade sedge]

It isnt

[somber hill]

map aint a spoiler smh we just talked abt this in that place recently

[scarlet hull]

No we didn’t we talked bout ||spell||

Wait when did we talk about map

[somber hill]

we did mention maps were a common missed non-spoiler

[scarlet hull]

“That place” is crazy

[somber hill]

'hel'

[scarlet hull]

I don’t read that whoops

[scarlet hull]

[somber hill]

dont worry idk how to read

[jade sedge]

It isnt a spoiler because its a very common mechanic in games like hk

[somber hill]

oh man otso cooking up a plasma rifle or helicopter

[scarlet hull]

Lmaoooo

[somber hill]

totally not referenceing tuesday

[scarlet hull]

I was so close with “erm what the sigma”

[thick wing]

I love the 15 thousand edge cases, makes talking in here while following the rules so intuitive and easy

[somber hill]

totally

[scarlet hull]

It backtracked smh

[somber hill]

'come bucket' too didnt quite get it

[scarlet hull]

It made it seem like I won

[scarlet hull]

||we don’t talk about that||

[somber hill]

mm

[jade sedge]

We get to make new rules for silksong so we can learn from the problems of the current system but changing the existing rules for this channel can make it even more confusing and a lot of people are against it so theres not much that can be done

[acoustic sigil]

Tradition is hard to be broken in terms of rules in this channel as it seems

One of the problems is that when proposing a new term that should be spoiler tagged (IE charm), no one wants to put in the effort to actually tag it, so the change doesn't happen

[thick wing]

Ive seen edge cases be argued about and changed all the time but sure

[acoustic sigil]

Even though logically it should be tagged

[acoustic sigil]

I can't remember the last time an edge case was changed

[thick wing]

just spoiler everything honestly

I dont see why we even have such complicated rules in place, just spoiler anything thats in the game, who cares

[fiery iron]

|| sly || with || 5 masks || do yall think i will do it?

[jade sedge]

How well have you practiced in ||hog||

[thick wing]

I'll admit that im not and havent been nearly active enough to be able to actually give you examples or whatever, but I can atleast say from personal experience that I find the current ruleset to just be confusing and not worth actually remembering, which I noticed especially when first rejoining the channel

[acoustic sigil]

I agree

[fiery iron]

Not much i have just beat him 3 or 4 times in normal

[acoustic sigil]

But that's the problem, people don't want to change it to include everything (or at least more)

[jade sedge]

Good luck then

[fiery iron]

Thanks

[acoustic sigil]

Otso and I are not the authority on what should be spoiler tagged and not

[thick wing]

But why, and whos people lol

Certainly not mods, theres none active

[acoustic sigil]

The #help community

Which indeed doesn't include many mods so we can kinda decide on the rules of the channel ourselves

[thick wing]

yeah, which id say hasnt worked out well lol

[acoustic sigil]

Yep

[thick wing]

I would argue that the current ruleset makes this place far more hostile, confusing and hard to navigate for people that arent part of the regulars then it needs to be

[acoustic sigil]

I mean it doesn't need to be hostile, just spoiler tag it if you aren't sure

But the rules certainly could be better yeah

[thick wing]

The hostility aspect mostly comes from the 15 people screaming( often non helpfully just "tags" ) at you if you dont, unsurprisingly, not understand the rules, but yeah I dont really know how you would like, improve that either

[glass void]

ive been stuck here for a little bit, what area do i need to be in to access this tunnel cause im guessing I have to ||c dash|| through it

[acoustic sigil]

I have been pleading for people to stop screaming tags for a long time but when many others do it, it hasn't had much effect

Same with 'unnecessary spoiler'

No one understands what that means unless if you have been here before

[thick wing]

yup, oh god unnecessary spoiler is another thing lol, not even the regulars actually completely agree on what it means, how are any new people supposed to

[shut sparrow]

You'll get there later. Don't worry about it for now and explore a different area

[glass void]

aight thanks

[acoustic sigil]

In theory it is pretty straightforeward, but the way it's worded by using 2 words it makes it sound like you tagged something that doesn't need to be tagged

Which is obv not what's meant by it

But how is a new person supposed to know

[shut sparrow]

maybe you should move this to hkt methinks

[acoustic sigil]

We are both not in hkt I think

[thick wing]

I am

[acoustic sigil]

Oh okay, I'm not

[shut sparrow]

oh you aren't

[acoustic sigil]

I'll come back eventually

[thick wing]

This brings me nicely to another point, whats the offtopic rule here

[acoustic sigil]

Officially what we just did is not allowed

I think

[thick wing]

Ive seen it changed multiple times, heck I see it layed out differently like every time its brought up

[acoustic sigil]

By the pins, which is the last I've heard is that minor off topic discussions related to hk are allowed but that's about it

However, the definition of minor depends on the mood of a mod

Same for it needing to be related to hk

[thick wing]

yeah its very vaguely worded lol

[acoustic sigil]

Personally my opinion is that things like this should be allowed but when someone needs help the offtopic convo stops

Which might be asking too much if there are more than 2 people here

[thick wing]

I agree

Thats personally also how I always interpreted the pin message, I always glossed over the "hk discussion" part because theyre not enforcing that anywhere else either, specifically not in the channel thats made for it lmao

[acoustic sigil]

I mean the only channel that really has a set discussion topic is lore

Which is pretty well enforced

[thick wing]

In actuality, yes, when looking at the channels rules, no

[acoustic sigil]

Because the modding discussions are filled by approximately 3 people so offtopic convo is always in a calm nature

Yeah I suppose hk-disc should theoretically also be strictly hk

[thick wing]

same ruleset for ss-disc aswell technically, yeah

Its long been overridden ofcourse, you just dont get told that in the rulesets

[acoustic sigil]

?tag info offtopic

[languid radish]

#sk-discussion is allowed to be off topic due to the game not being out yet, and the amount of times that topics have been exhausted for it. However, if you have a topic that you'd like to discuss, say it and the channel should follow suit.

[acoustic sigil]

Which gotta be the leased utilized tag ever

[thick wing]

putting rules in tags has to be the most silly thing ever

[sly rune]

True.

Sadly there's no tag colon3 here.

[thick wing]

I would argue that a rule that I cannot easily and directly find next to the other rules doesnt exist, you cant enforce something thats only ever seen by regulars of the channel or on direct questioning becaue its buried somewhere where you will never naturally find it

[acoustic sigil]

The pins even speak against the tag

[thick wing]

indeed

[sly rune]

Lemme just send that there.

[acoustic sigil]

You can see how far it's buried since it hasn't been transfered back to the ?tag without category system

[thick wing]

the tags are just a mess anyway

[acoustic sigil]

I am very proud to announce I have contributed to that

[thick wing]

do we have a category system or not? Im honestly so confused

[sly rune]

What's the category system?

[fair lake]

Thommie essay incoming.

[acoustic sigil]

In the good old days we didn't have a category system. Then in January the mods decided that it was messy and decided to create categories for the tags. However modding community didn't like that as literally 97% of the tags are modding related, so now we had to use an extra system to get used to, for no good reason. Also the fact that quite a few tags were put in the wrong category

So I made a modmail and we were allowed to create categoryless tags again

[thick wing]

I agree with that yeah ,the category system was stupid

[acoustic sigil]

But not every tag was transferred back as the ones that aren't used by the modding community were overlooked

[thick wing]

so let me guess, we now have both, awesome

[acoustic sigil]

So if you want a category tag transfered back to the normal system you have to ping a mod and they'll create it again

But it's just too much effort and has cluttered the tag system forever

[thick wing]

for.. every tag?

[acoustic sigil]

Well the most used modding tags were immediatly remade by the modding staff, same for the help tags as Wangha and Ismoil are also help regulars

But for all other tags, yes

[thick wing]

So it is completely legitimate for me to basically spam ping mods in regards to tags, very nice

[acoustic sigil]

I mean even modding staff has to ping admins for them to delete tags as because how dyno works if a mod edits a tag created by modding staff, the modding staff can't edit it anymore

If only we would have menderbot in this server (modding server tag bot)

[thick wing]

lmao no way, why are tags bound to roles, thats actually hilarious

[sly rune]

Because Dyno sucks.

[acoustic sigil]

Yeah it's an unfortunate byeffect of dyno

You would have to make the role an administrator in the dyno page for them to allow to edit every tag

Which includes many perms that modding staff shouldn't have (Not that they couldn't be trusted with it but you know)

[glass void]

i think i found out what i needed to do

[fiery iron]

Gg i did it || P3 ||

Finnaly

[hasty willow]

Wait a sec I can't do spoiler tags

[proper frost]

Spoiler tags

[hasty willow]

On phone

[proper frost]

|| on both sides

[somber hill]

you can find it

[proper frost]

Copy what i sent ig

[hasty willow]

Ok but that's really far away

[somber hill]

🇵🇰

[hasty willow]

I'm going on PC now

[somber hill]

thats even further away

[hasty willow]

I can't fight ||Grimm||

[proper frost]

Wdym by can't?

[hasty willow]

He's to hard

[fair lake]

Skill issue.

[proper frost]

[fair lake]

Jokes aside, have you fought him enough times or not?

[somber hill]

just that boss takes a lot of practice

[hasty willow]

I have fought him alot

[fair lake]

Because if not, you can't learn his patterns so fast.

[somber hill]

ok what keeps messing you up?

[fair lake]

Okay.
What attacks are you struggling with?

[somber hill]

i reaaaly want to snail that

[hasty willow]

The puffer fish

[somber hill]

you can just go to one side and play a rhythm game

also dont just stand in place

go like

[fair lake]

That's easy.
||Just jump over the fireballs that are directly above the ground.
Do it fast and in a circular manner.||

[hasty willow]

Ok

[fair lake]

Ye

[fair lake]

By all means, do it.

[somber hill]

IDK i hope u get what i mean

[hasty willow]

Was?

[somber hill]

like when the balls are in that position u follow thru with the jump thing

nah ur mario, i wont snail u

[fair lake]

As you wish.
XD
I don't have any problem being snailed.

[glass void]

what is getting snailed

[hasty willow]

ur new

[fair lake]

When you post the same thing as someone else.
It means that you were slow.
Thus, the snail emoji.
🐌

[glass void]

thanks

[fair lake]

Np.

[proper frost]

Np.

[hasty willow]

wait thought it was ||shape of unn||

[fair lake]

When someone is faster than you in answering, basically.

[glass void]

ah alright thanks

thats funny

[fair lake]

Yep
Np.

Indeed.

[proper frost]

That's basically how it works lol

[hasty willow]

i died to walking into|| grimm||💀

[glass void]

what does this dude do

[proper frost]

Nothing

[hasty willow]

makes ||masks||

[proper frost]

Lore

[glass void]

literally just does nothing

ok thanks

[hasty willow]

yea

[somber hill]

mm

[glass void]

even if it was for lore it should do smth

[somber hill]

we wait for the day of someone to turn ismoil to isnail

[hasty willow]

i want silksong

[somber hill]

exist

[glass void]

i suppose

[somber hill]

i think that may be a spoiler for whatever weird reason but idk im not sure

[fair lake]

I believe Anika has the record for most snails in a post, but I don't remember how many.

[somber hill]

cuz some mods are spoilers too

🇵🇰 🐌

[inland moon]

I have seen 11 snails and 2 super snails before

[fair lake]

I see.
Super snails?

[proper frost]

Super reacts

[inland moon]

super react snails

[hasty willow]

i hate how i need ||grimchild|| to start the ||grimm|| fight

[fair lake]

Can you show me?

The super react snail.

[inland moon]

no I can't

[fair lake]

Okay.
Anyone else?
XD

[somber hill]

i can if u give me some moneh

[fair lake]

Think she's had more than 11 snails, but I'm not sure.

[fair lake]

Nope.
Ah
So like, a moving snail?

[proper frost]

#hk-meme message this post has a super boat

[somber hill]

THAT was cause of YOU

[fair lake]

Hmm
I don't see any difference from the regular boat emoji.

[fair lake]

Wdym?

[inland moon]

it just has a fancy animation

[fair lake]

I see.

[somber hill]

it got more

27 aparently

[pure flare]

It's a canoe🤓

[fair lake]

Ye

[proper frost]

If you click to see like,what emojo is it you'll get the animation

[fair lake]

Nice!
lol

[proper frost]

Nobody cares

[fair lake]

Yeah, just did that.

[pure flare]

I know

[somber hill]

33 now btw

[pure flare]

That'd why I said it

[fair lake]

So, she doesn't have the record for most snails in a post.

[fair lake]

Never mind.

[inland moon]

who's that

[somber hill]

🇵🇰

[inland moon]

who got so many snails

[fair lake]

Grev's alt.

[somber hill]

look familiar?

[fair lake]

Hotspring?

Idk the person.

[inland moon]

yeah it's 5 messages up

[acoustic sigil]

Anika

[somber hill]

surely we spread this around to get more snails

#hk-help message

[acoustic sigil]

I already reacted

[somber hill]

[fair lake]

Oh
It was Anika.
XD

Why does she have "deleted user" as her username?

[somber hill]

yay i filled it with emojis too

[fair lake]

Not my fault I didn't know that abbreviation.
XD

[somber hill]

XD

we really need a :clueless: emoji in here

[fair lake]

Yep

[somber hill]

thommie get ur @ admin gif back here

[fair lake]

Anyway, enough snail discussion.
Let's lurk and wait for people to ask for help.

[somber hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283680756159741953/1240257445226614887/3dgifmaker96308.gif

🇵🇰

[inland moon]

that's been me all day lol

and being too slow to help

[fair lake]

That's me EVERY DAY!
lol

[fair lake]

Happens.

[glass void]

is there anything useful in the ||queens gardens|| like a boss or smth

[fair lake]

Yes.

[hasty willow]

i have beaten ||grimm||

[somber hill]

nice

[hasty willow]

it like gazillion times

[fair lake]

Great job!

[hasty willow]

but i survived ||the pufferfish|| attack

ik im gonna get tourtcherd in ||nkg||

[meager thistle]

Tortured btw

[hasty willow]

thanks i didnt know how to type it

should i do ||colo 2|| or not

[fair lake]

That's true.

[acoustic sigil]

I would recommend it

The reward it quite nice

[hasty willow]

i need it to ||upgrade my nail||

[rugged veldt]

Mhm

[hollow prawn]

hi #hell(p) <3

[fair lake]

[rugged veldt]

Hello Mario and nixter

[fair lake]

Hi Krist!

[rugged veldt]

Mhm

[hollow prawn]

we do need to rename this to #hk-hell tbh

[fair lake]

Yes.

[rugged veldt]

Real

[hollow prawn]

thats just about what it is

slow mode helped a lot tho

[rugged veldt]

True true

[lean drum]

Not rly

[sinful obsidian]

should i be defensive or aggressive for ||the hollow knight||

[dark fulcrum]

Is ||flukenest|| good for ||pantheons||

[inland moon]

if you don't know the boss well being defensive is probably better

[inland moon]

not unless you're a speedrunner

[dark fulcrum]

thanks

[tired tiger]

it can be if you use it well

[upper bough]

|| How do I get into city of tears? I have the crest in the statue but the pillar isn’t open/opining. I previously was in there but need to get back in ||

[vivid fog]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (Charms, bosses, locations, etc.) to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[vivid fog]

tag your message first

[inland moon]

you need to find another way out

also please add spoilers to your message

[vivid fog]

also welcome to the server

[vivid fog]

read this

[upper bough]

Oops sorry

[vivid fog]

it's alright dw don't be sorry

that happens a lot to new people who joined the server

[upper bough]

I forgot that I have to use || the elevator || to get back in

[sly rune]

You too Gwnj.

[vivid fog]

[vast bone]

When normal people takes damage: (run away from enemy)
When smart people take damage: (face the enemy or ||boss|| and spam the||nail|| to use 1 sec ||invincibility||)

[inland moon]

I do believe that this is #hk-help

[half venture]

Do you need mental help?

[vast bone]

Huh?

[inner ruin]

Yes

[inland moon]

pehaps

[inland moon]

go to somewhere else

[lean drum]

imagine taking damage

[vast bone]

Why

[lean drum]

Also facetanking isnt a good strategy

[vast bone]

🤓

[inland moon]

that isn't helpful or asking for help

[vast bone]

At last that help for newbie to find out they has ||invincibility|| for 1 sec when they take damage

[lean drum]

no it doesnt

[half venture]

It is unrelated to the purpose of this channel

[lean drum]

nobody asked for that nor does anyone want it

[vast bone]

Wtf bro yes

[inland moon]

no it doesn't

it's spoilered too

[lean drum]

also facetanking is a bad strategy

[half venture]

It is a Q&A channel, not a general tips/advice channel

[lean drum]

Running away is better

[dire sinew]

Some tips for ||absrad||?

[vast bone]

Who chose what's bad strategy?

[dire sinew]

Pls

[inland moon]

what are you stuggling with

[lean drum]

What phase and what attack

[half venture]

Your healthbar

[meager thistle]

||during final phase you can pogo and the orbs despawn||

[dire sinew]

I know

[lean drum]

Refer to phases by name and not by number

[dire sinew]

Second. This is da hell

[meager thistle]

I've given the only piece of advice I have, now I'll watch you guys do better

[vast bone]

Nah i do my strategy even on 1 hp

[inland moon]

or just spoiler

[lean drum]

what do you defube as second

[lean drum]

Stop trolling and shoo

[half venture]

||shade skips|| arent useful in bossfights

[crude flower]

hello
im a newbie in hollow knight and have only been playing for like, 2 months or so
im currently trying to beat ||soul tyrant|| and got to the last phase today but died and haven't managed to get back to last phase again which leads me to think that it might've been a fluke
my charm build is ||sprintmaster, mark of pride, shaman and soul catcher ||
all advice and tips would be appreciated
thanks! 😄

[inland moon]

well please go have skill issue somewhere else

[lean drum]

?tag spoilers

[acoustic sigil]

Please edit your message with spoiler tags

[crude flower]

crap

this is my first time posting here

[meager thistle]

Hey just so you know, messages sent here have to be spoiler tagged as to not spoil new players
You can do || on either side of the message to do this

[lean drum]

Also why are you using ||dashmaster||

[vast bone]

Use (||mark of pride|| and don't use spell but ||shirek||

[crude flower]

what should i cover

[lean drum]

^worst advice on earth

[meager thistle]

Anything that appears past the dirtmouth area is considered a spoiler

[lean drum]

Never do that

[dire sinew]

On many platforms

[meager thistle]

So most of the message tbh

[lean drum]

for that one, you want to play passively

[crude flower]

is that better?

[lean drum]

Dont try to chase

[crude flower]

ok thanks

[vast bone]

Who's used shade skip bro

[dire sinew]

Agree

[inland moon]

spoilers

[half venture]

You if your tanking damage at 1hp

[inland moon]

lol

[lean drum]

its a joke. Nobody does ||shade skips|| on bosses bc you cant

[meager thistle]

Yup, perfect!

[crude flower]

oki

[vast bone]

You said trolling didn't good and you do it? I beaten ||p5|| with that strategy

[inland moon]

you still need to spoiler

[lean drum]

ive beaten ||rad absrad|| with my strategy

[vast bone]

Why this channel members such toxic

[inland moon]

just don't troll smh

[lean drum]

||mark of pride|| does absolutely nothing for ||absrad|||

like, nil

It doesnt even do contact damage bruh

[vast bone]

Me to, there's many strategy,

[lean drum]

Please explain to me what you use ||mark of pride|| for

[vast bone]

It make me jump a little less

[lean drum]

whats the usecase

[lean drum]

wait, you do upslashes?

[inland moon]

wow how useful

[lean drum]

Oh that explains your problem

[vast bone]

Yep

[dire sinew]

||She:Bow pew pow
Me:Can't dodge her attacks
She:Made many attacks in one second
Me:Dieing||

[vast bone]

Pogo is just risky and bad for ||ar||

[inland moon]

said nobody ever

[thick wing]

Theres more then one viable strategy for bosses people, yall seem to keep forgetting that

[inland moon]

true true

[vast bone]

It last for me it's risky

[inland moon]

but still

[lean drum]

When she does the ||laser wall or horizontal spikes||, run to it and dodge it as fast as you can. If you dont, you may get trapped

[lean drum]

how is it risky in any way shape or form

[inland moon]

it might be hard if you can't ||facedance||

[dire sinew]

||I need some good charm build...||

[vast bone]

When it throws that ||balls||

[inland moon]

but at least use normal slashes

[lean drum]

just use your bread and butter build

[thick wing]

Which people obviously cant

[lean drum]

||qslash, strength, shaman, and fill the rest with your choice||

[inland moon]

.

[lean drum]

mfw turning around (impossible)

[thick wing]

Hired, are you aware what channel youre in

[lean drum]

yes

[thick wing]

This is help, use actually relevant strats please, thank you

[vast bone]

Who tf use ||nailart|| for ||ar||

[lean drum]

im trying to help the other guy while arguing with this guy

[dire sinew]

And third. Where u need to climb

[inland moon]

are you still trolling

[lean drum]

Not that many people? Why did you bring this up

[inland moon]

I honestly can't tell

[dire sinew]

Bruh

[vast bone]

It's just hard, not impossible

[leaden roost]

||You could grab quickslash from kingdom's edge & fragile strength from leg eater. The fragile charms don't break during dream fights and quickslash + strength combined is more than a 2x damage boost. If you wanna use spells you could switch quick slash for shaman stone tho.||

[lean drum]

That ones just a matter of practice. When she does the laser onto you, ||dash|| away to dodge it

[inland moon]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[vast bone]

I just didn't heard that before, maybe it's nice challenge

[lean drum]

Avoid ||using claw|| at all costs

[dire sinew]

||In that time i dash into abyss. Yay||

[lean drum]

Nobody brought that challenge up?

im genuinely confused rn

[dire sinew]

Huh

[lean drum]

|||double jump || after

[lean drum]

It kills you

[dire sinew]

Kay, thanks

[dire sinew]

Agree

[vast bone]

I didn't see hk vids and also i didn't got that idea anyway

[lean drum]

Yes but nobody brought up ||absrad narts only|| why did you randomly bring it up

[vast bone]

When he says just use slashes i thought he means "don't use ||narts||

[lean drum]

Normal slashes are slashes that are not up or down

[vast bone]

I didn't know that bruh

[dire sinew]

||then I'm just dieing from first ball she spawn in last phase||

[vast bone]

Anyway let's get away, how i can beat fucking||markoth||

On ||rediant||

[lean drum]

||narts||

[lean drum]

Spoiler that

[vast bone]

Which one

[lean drum]

When that phase starts, immediately do 2 ||shrieks||. That gets her super low

[lean drum]

All of them except ||cyclone||

[shut sparrow]

Use ||great and dash slashes in the first phase and don't play too aggressively. Also don't use any soul but save it for the second phase where you can then use it all for shade soul trying to get double hits which should bring his hp pretty low if you do it well||

[vast bone]

What's the different between||dashlash|| and ||great slash||

[dire sinew]

Oh my, thank u vry much

[lean drum]

One has more vertical range, one more horizontal range

[rugged veldt]

I think the hitboxes vary slightly

Yeah what hired said

[half venture]

Also one of them costs geo

[vast bone]

They do same damage?

[lean drum]

Yep

[dire sinew]

Yep

[vast bone]

Wtf?

[lean drum]

Yeah ||oro|| is a greedy idiot

[vast bone]

Aha

I remember

[lean drum]

why does he need money? Hes living in some random ass area in the middle of nowhere

[inland moon]

exactly he could have just charged 10 times ||more for 112%ers||

[lean drum]

fr

[leaden roost]

||Greatslash also has more lingering hitbox frames.
Good for preemptive strikes||

[inland moon]

spoiler tags

[vast bone]

Can i somehow pogo on ||grim|| when it's in that phase to throw these balls?

[inland moon]

yes but it does no damage

[shut sparrow]

Yes you can but I think it's a lot easier to just learn to avoid the attack normally

[vast bone]

I know just for escaping damage

[lean drum]

worst phrased sentence of the century award

[inland moon]

just dodge the balls lol

wait don't take that out of context

[dark fulcrum]

Best ||charms|| to get for ||pantheons|| ?

[vast bone]

I just suck when ||nkg|| on this phase

[leaden roost]

||Yea
But the usual strat is to damage tank and spam spells, or dodge while charging a nart & dashslash or greatslash him right when the phase ends||

[lean drum]

Get all of them

Actually get 108% before even touching them

Or 107%

[vast bone]

Stop trolling

[inland moon]

hypocrisy lol

[dark fulcrum]

i have reached 101% with only nail

[lean drum]

..why

why

What do you even use soul for

[dark fulcrum]

i am the great nailmaster

[leaden roost]

||Quickslash, fragile/unbreakable strength, mark of pride, steady body, grubsong/nmg
Shaman stone, dream wielder & spell twister can also be good||

[dark fulcrum]

heal

[lean drum]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[proper frost]

Yeah i ||probably got 112 with mostly nail||

[leaden roost]

He asked what charms were good, smh

[lean drum]

Heres my tip.
Start using ||spells|| please for the love of god

[vivid fog]

But you didn't asked him to sent ||charms pics||

[dark fulcrum]

no i am the great ||nail||master

[vivid fog]

I think? Am I right?

[inland moon]

well gn guys have fun helping

[vivid fog]

Bye

[shut sparrow]

gwnj!

[vivid fog]

Nonsenf

[shut sparrow]

eve

[lean drum]

just get 108% okay

[shut sparrow]

[vivid fog]

:)

[dire sinew]

Is it good for ||absrad||?

[vast bone]

Hk community even toxicer that codm community 💀

[lean drum]

Also 100 bucks that you dont use ||nail arts||

[dire sinew]

Lol i made it once

[lean drum]

no we arent you just kinda like trolling sometimes

[shut sparrow]

||the first two are good but both nail lengthening charms are pretty useless||

[proper frost]

||far from the best but sure||

[lean drum]

Not exactly

||MoP and longnail|| do nothing

Use ||shaman|| and then any charms of your choice

[proper frost]

||if you use both you can actually reach her without jumping||

[dark fulcrum]

you cant unagree ||Codm|| Voice chat is worse

[proper frost]

When she is in the lower position

[vast bone]

Yes but can't you use ||shaman stone|| for make ||shriks|| more strong?

[shut sparrow]

yeah so worth it

[vast bone]

U too

[proper frost]

[lean drum]

when did i troll

[dark fulcrum]

best ||speedrunner|| ||charm|| set?

[vast bone]

Aha trolling

[lean drum]

thats funny lmao, whats the chance of lower position?

[lean drum]

That isnt trollinf

[shut sparrow]

||pantheon speedruns or what exactly?||

[dark fulcrum]

yokes on you thats not trolling

[lean drum]

What are you speedrunning

[proper frost]

Ohh,no i got it ig
You mean "yeah,so worth it ()"

[vast bone]

Just answer the question don't troll, that's even bullying

[shut sparrow]

yeah it was sarcasm

[proper frost]

33 or 50 %

[lean drum]

||FotF|| is generally good, but it has a high skill barrier

[proper frost]

Gg punctuation

[lean drum]

thats 17% difference which is it

[dark fulcrum]

all ||bosses|| killed

[lean drum]

Is that a category?

[dire sinew]

I'm just asked but thank u^^

[shut sparrow]

||112% all pantheon bosses I guess||

[proper frost]

No idea.

[dark fulcrum]

idk

||bro im so bored because i tried godseeker mode glitch then failed and misscilcked on the wrong save file||

[proper frost]

Tags

[vast bone]

When we have ||0 geo speedruning|| that's normal to have that

[shut sparrow]

generally if you are talking about speedrunning bosses ||strength, qslash and fury are being used|| It might vary for some bosses tho

[shut sparrow]

can you please spoiler tag this

[proper frost]

||fluke when its avaliable||

[shut sparrow]

yeah depends on the patch and the boss tho I think

[proper frost]

And ||shamans absolutelly.Unless its parkour every speedrunner uses shamans||

[dire sinew]

Like that?

[proper frost]

Do not ||overcharm||

[thick wing]

Yes

[shut sparrow]

they aren't

[thick wing]

Thats not || oc ||

[proper frost]

Wait am i dumb

[dark fulcrum]

Why does your ||spell twister|| look so much better then mine

[dire sinew]

Yay

[shut sparrow]

No they just have ||more notches because weird mobile version||

[proper frost]

Oh

[dark fulcrum]

As a mobile player thats very true

[dire sinew]

||I'm just using save's glitch||

Bruh, I'm little bit cheating

[proper frost]

"Little"

[shut sparrow]

Cheating is fine if you don't pretend you did it without cheating

[dark fulcrum]

NOT THE ||SPRINTMASTER||!!?

[meager river]

whats a good way to make geo without just looking up all of ||the relics?|| Because I want to get ||unbreakable strength|| but still want to explore naturally outside of that.

[dark fulcrum]

[proper frost]

||sprintmaster my beloved||

[shut sparrow]

||can you send an image of your map?||

[dire sinew]

Its helps in first phase

[meager river]

uh id have to boot up the game first but sure

gimme a min

[meager river]

which areas do you want to see lol?

[dire sinew]

Nah

[shut sparrow]

Well I want to see your map so I won't accidentally tell you about an area that you might not know yet

[dire sinew]

This is glitch's help

[meager river]

zoomed out so you know what i have (tho last time I played I also got to ||hive and abyss||. so you can count those in

[proper frost]

Either way you have something you are not suposed to

[shut sparrow]

Alright there is a pretty good ||geo spot at the top of Kingdom's edge. You'll know what I mean if you have been there||

[meager river]

ah the ||coliseum|| im guessing?

[shut sparrow]

mhm that's pretty efficient. Have you done any of that before?

[meager river]

I dont think so. I dont have any of the achievements for it on steam. Im doing some other stuff first but ill head over there after

with other stuff i mean literally just grabbing ||Shade cloak and abyssal shriek||

[proper frost]

How to use modmail?

[whole latch]

||yeah they're useful for Colo||

[meager river]

I mean I did just beat ||hornet sentinel|| for the express purpose of being able to grab them

[shut sparrow]

#support-and-faq

Send a DM to modmail and select the server. I have never done it but it doesn't seem too complicated

[whole latch]

Ok

[meager river]

but first I need to grab something else. (||that being quick slash||)

[whole latch]

||quick slash|| >>>

[shut sparrow]

That's nice. Altho ||specifically for the colosseum that's not a great option. For everything else it's really helpful tho||

[meager river]

i mean rn im just running this (swap out ||compass and dashmaster for MoP during bosses||)

[shut sparrow]

that's decent

[meager river]

Learning to use ||shaman stone and spells|| has been a massive help. the last and only time i played the game was 4 years ago but I remember struggling on ||hornet sentinel||. this time the fight was over so quickly it was insane

[crystal tide]

That's good for you!

Keep on going!

[proper frost]

Trully a lost generation

[meager river]

It's been really fun. I never beat the game last time, and I'm finally getting around to content I've never done before. So I'm very excited.

I specifically remember the last 2 bosses I tried fighting (and failed at) were ||traitor lord and watcher knights||

[dire sinew]

Is it good for ||absrad||?

[proper frost]

Yeah

||at this point you could use just every charm||

[dire sinew]

Yea...

[spark yoke]

||absrad|| is my mortal enemy

I hate it with all my heart and soul

Good luck have fun

[low sky]

youre not wrong lol

thats smart

[spark yoke]

Very large brain

[proper frost]

[dire sinew]

Thanks

[dire sinew]

||He has Gorb's journal||

[spark yoke]

Like the ||entry?||

[dire sinew]

Me too

[dire sinew]

Nah

[spark yoke]

Is it a mod?

[dire sinew]

Like did u see Skurry's video?

[spark yoke]

Nope

[dire sinew]

I can just show fragment privately

Haha

[spark yoke]

Bet

[dire sinew]

I didn't understand

[spark yoke]

Understand what

[verbal saffron]

fun boss

[spark yoke]

An argument can definitely be made otherwise but yeah sure

[dire sinew]

I can show it

[spark yoke]

Ok sure

[dire sinew]

Or share it on off topic

[spark yoke]

Idc

Oh ok makes a lot more sense now

Thanks

[dire sinew]

You're welcome

[fiery iron]

I cant beat || lost kin || ;-;

[low sky]

Are you struggling on a certain attack

Use a lot of ||spells|| thats what i did

[spark yoke]

Also theres a charm that helps

[meager river]

will this setup work for the ||second and third trial in the colosseum?||

[stiff field]

||maybe not soul eater||

||what are your other charms||

[meager river]

its just very awkward with the amount of notches i have (at least for me it is)

[stiff field]

||try heart and grubsong/dream wielder||

||oh wait you have the fragile version||

[meager river]

yes

[stiff field]

||honestly soul eater is fine yeah||

[meager river]

im doing this to get geo in the first place

[iron portal]

uh i have a question, is the godhome and the dlc whatever in vanilla hollow knight

[lean drum]

Yeah

[iron portal]

oh

how didnt i know bruh

[tropic seal]

it is but can u tag ||godhome|| please?

[iron portal]

i dont even know how to spoiler shit

[meager thistle]

|| on both sides

[tropic seal]

you gotta use || at the beggining and end of the word

[iron portal]

|fart|

[meager thistle]

Two of them on both sides

[iron portal]

||fart||

[tropic seal]

yeah like that

[meager river]

alright beat it first try. ||only trial of the fool left||

[iron portal]

i literally went away and beat ||the radiance|| before ts shit bro

[lean drum]

||thats bc radiance is easy as fuck||

[iron portal]

i find it easier than like the ||dream version of false knight and the nightmare king ||

[lean drum]

Yeah its a super easy boss

[iron portal]

im gonna try to beat the ||trial of fools|| later and beat it

[royal flame]

''ah finally, im all alone,'' I said to myself as sat in my bedroom at midnight.
||''no your not.'' said Knife Guy.||

[lean drum]

Offtopic

[iron portal]

but knife guy is the knight! just no nail

[fair lake]

[meager thistle]

Please spoiler tag ||knife guy||.

[tropic seal]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[iron portal]

bro WHAT

[royal flame]

i dont get ||this system||

[iron portal]

how is that unnecessary

[tropic seal]

||they didnt request being spoiled Radiance's name iirc and gives nothing related to the trial they're on||

[meager thistle]

There's no guarantee that they know who ||radiance|| is

[iron portal]

if you use that logic then i wouldnt need to spoil anything since a guy could know nothing about the game no?

[royal flame]

can someone in a senseful way tell me why u have to spoiler stuff

[bright sorrel]

read the pins

[meager thistle]

New players come here and don't want to be spoiled

[thick wing]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (Charms, bosses, locations, etc.) to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[bright sorrel]

yato W?!

[thick wing]

Oh that parts more just that you need to do it, yeah pins explains it a bit more

[thick wing]

[royal flame]

i understand now i guess

[neat karma]

Truly, spoilers are just for when theres more than one convo or new person at a time, uncspoilers is really the point if the channel

[dark fulcrum]

how the ||hell|| do i defeat ||the collector he keeps healing somehow||

[slow yoke]

he no heal

[simple island]

Yeah no boss heal…

[meager thistle]

He doesn't, why do you think that lol

[simple island]

Someone using mods and being confused lol

[dark fulcrum]

i dont use mods

[simple island]

So why did you think they heal ?

[dark fulcrum]

he keeps laughing then he heals

[meager thistle]

P do you know what the word heal means

[tropic seal]

||are you talking about when he stuns?||

[dark fulcrum]

||no he somehow heals||

[slow yoke]

u talking bout phase 2?

[meager thistle]

We are factually telling you that he does not do that, please believe us

[dark fulcrum]

||Ive been fighting him for the past 1 hours and i just finally save and quitted||

[simple island]

Regardless in ||collector your focus should be on the minions they spawn, if you one shot them with your nail you should be able to kill most of them when they spawn, if not you will have to rely more heavily on using spells like vengeful spirit or dive to kill them if the screen starts to be overrun||
Don’t try to heal, you don’t have the soul nor the time for that

[dark fulcrum]

i spam ||ddark||

[slow yoke]

there’s many methods to kill it just depends on what u have

the issue can be getting soul

[simple island]

None of this makes any sense
No bosses in hollow knight ||heal, there is no visual to interpret that the boss is healing, they don’t regenerate health when they go in the celling ||

[simple island]

||Dreamnail|| can actually be used to some extent in that fight (stagger but also outside), because soul is so valuable

[meager thistle]

Hellp moment

[dark fulcrum]

i think i found out why he healed

my sister downloaded a mod that heals every boss, i dont know whats the name

Its just called "mod"

[simple island]

Ok so you are using mods
Unlike what you were saying

[dark fulcrum]

i didnt know

[simple island]

#modding-discussion / #1057825333841240104 then

[dark fulcrum]

?

[simple island]

Please try to explain precisely what "your sister" installed or whatever if you want your game to be fixed

[meager thistle]

This ||feels so pk||

[simple island]

But do that in the modding channels, and not in here

As modding stuff is not for #hk-help

[verbal saffron]

can get some with extra and a

[vivid fog]

Get some ?

[drowsy citrus]

Help ||PV|| is destroying me

[slow yoke]

uh oh

[shut sparrow]

What attacks do you struggle with?

[drowsy citrus]

||Soul pillars||

[shut sparrow]

make sure you aren't ||underneath them when they teleport or jump above you and dash out of the way if necessary. Then to avoid the pillars it helps jumping up since they are smaller at the top||

[slow yoke]

||can u dive for them or is it too fast?||

ive never done it

[shut sparrow]

||you can dive to avoid them||

[bright sorrel]

:cat2:

[stable belfry]

How can a guy like me get some ||essence|| around here.
I already killed all the ||ghost warriors (I think)|| and I killed ||Failed Champion||

I also did all the weird ||essence trees (I think)||

[bright sorrel]

there are more bosses like ||failed champion ||

[stable belfry]

I know there is ||white defender and the other broken vessel, but these bosses are kinda hard||

[bright sorrel]

u might wanna look for more upgrades then

or u can ask for help on those bosses

[stable belfry]

I think I have all the upgrades

Except mayble like ||2 charms||

[meager river]

so I tried doing ||flukemarm|| the first time i went to the ||royal waterways|| and got completely destroyed by ||the little minions||. I just came back with ||abyss shriek|| and killed it in like 4 seconds. very cool

[stable belfry]

Seems about right

Yeah ||spells|| are kinda op

[meager river]

yeah i had ||spell twister and shaman stone||. literally just jumped underneath it ||abyss shriek x4|| and it was dead

[tropic seal]

random question, are ||Hive's root, Queen's Garden's Root, Greenpath Root and Kingdom's Edge Root accessible with my current items: Dash, Mantis Claw, Tram Pass, Vengeful Spirit and Dream Nail?||

im not on ||steel soul btw so i can shade skip if that helps||

[ionic loom]

I don´t really know. But most likely you can, although i dont remember exactly which ones can you do rn.

[ionic loom]

Yo did you finally get ||speedrun||?

[stable belfry]

Yep.
I got all 3 speed based achievements

[ionic loom]

yay

[stable belfry]

I'm working on 112% right now.

Is it weird I found ||white defender harder than Lost Kin||

[ionic loom]

Me too

I think i beat ||lost kin first try with defenders crest||

i was really proud then, then got to ||radiance||

and well, here i still am

[stable belfry]

Oh boy

I just got ||Awoken dream nail. Oh boy time for path of pain which honestly wasn't too bad||

[timber minnow]

I would recommend getting the other ||two movement items. I don't know if I should mention them to you coz they might be spoilers||

[fiery iron]

Same but i think i am stuck on somewhere :/

[meager thistle]

Just so you know it's not required

||only white palace is required, not path of pain||

[fiery iron]

I will do || path of pain || after || % 112 ||

[remote terrace]

||ugh i suffered thinking it was necesary||

[fiery iron]

I just need to do one thing

[chrome shale]

||it doesnt even give an achievement i was so disappointed||

[remote terrace]

X2

[timber minnow]

For the lore

[fiery iron]

So little tho just 2 seconds :/

[tropic seal]

i see, dw i alrd beat the game several times i dont mind spoilers at all

[chrome shale]

||the cutscene is pretty cute but the disappointing part was i already knew what the cutscene was, i didnt know you wouldnt get an achievement though and i really hoped i'd get one so i was just like ||

[slow yoke]

its only like 2 mins of platforming

[chrome shale]

2 minutes?

[static knoll]

i played the game for a bit a year ago and im getting back into it with the goal of getting all the achievements and im not sure wether i should play on keyboard or controller

[chrome shale]

controller is highly recommended for hk

[static knoll]

with the d pad or stick?

[neat karma]

It really depends, if you can get a good keybind set keyboard, but controller is also really good

[chrome shale]

stick works best i think

[acoustic sigil]

As long as you don't use mouse you'll be fine

[neat karma]

Are you good at platforming with the d pad? Some people like it because its a bit more prescise but its more difficult to do various imputs at once

[neat karma]

PLEASE

[static knoll]

ill try both

why not mouse lmao

[acoustic sigil]

You dedicate an entire hand to 2 buttons

Pretty suboptimal

[static knoll]

and a scroll wheel

[thick wing]

Dont let zal hear that

[acoustic sigil]

Or do, maybe he will change his ways

[neat karma]

Its a 2d game, unless your mouse has several side buttons like 4 or sum youll either have your keyboard hand very crowded or youll have to constantly switch between mouse and key

[thick wing]

What if you got one of those mmo mouses with half a keyboard glued onto them

[neat karma]

Its just really inconvinient and needlessly complicated

[acoustic sigil]

I don't think the overlap between people that have such a mouse and hk players is very high

Stereotypically

[thick wing]

Wheres the data scientists at someone draw us a graph

[tropic seal]

are ||whispering roots|| necessary for ||112%?|| i completely forgot

[acoustic sigil]

No

[tropic seal]

ok tyy

[fiery iron]

But wouldnt it be better to get it if you want || 2400 essence ||

[acoustic sigil]

||You can get 2400 without doing the trees||

It may not be faster to skip them all

[fiery iron]

Oh okay

I just did all the things that gave || essence || so i dont know :/

I hate || P4 || so much

[acoustic sigil]

Understandable

What part is giving you trouble

[fiery iron]

|| lost kin || and || white defender || are currently

[idle tiger]

What ||charms do you use||

[simple island]

anyway

[idle tiger]

Keyboard>controller emulator

[fiery iron]

|| Strength qslash heart shaman ||

[acoustic sigil]

That sounds a lot like an opinion stated as a fact

[undone flower]

do you just have a chalkboard?

[acoustic sigil]

I should get a chalkboard

[simple island]

Im at school

It’s 9pm

[idle tiger]

Is there a specific attack of ||lost kin|| that you struggle with

[simple island]

A mood to sum up

[idle tiger]

Yeah and that chalkboard sounds a lot like an opinion too

[lean drum]

i recommend replacing ||heart|| with ||twister||

[fiery iron]

Those || orange things || and his || fake jumps ||

[fiery iron]

I dont want to replace || heart || || extra masks || comes in clutch most of the battles

[lean drum]

wym ||fake jumps||

i dont remember that being a thing

[idle tiger]

Kill the ||ghosts as soon as you can, but don’t take your eyes off the boss. Stay as far from the boss as you can- be in a corner when possible. If he does a tiny height jump, dash under him and upswing as he passes by. Also, don’t be next to him as he lands from a dash- he will swing at you. And his big jumps- stand RIGHT next to him, the goo won’t hit you and you can get some hits on. ||

[fiery iron]

Thanks

[lean drum]

theres a really stupid strategy for ||lost kin|| where you just use ||dcrest||

[idle tiger]

This is somewhat more difficult, but you can fire ||shade souls. For example, if you are on the left side of the arena and he dashes toward you, you can jump over him and fireball as he is moving away from the fireball. This can cause the hitbox of the fireball to hit the boss twice for double damage||

[lean drum]

i used it on my ||radiant|| clear

[idle tiger]

Oh yeah, ||defenders crest can kill the ghosts instantly but I don’t like it because the ghosts are good soul generators ||

[fiery iron]

Well it would be useless for the other bosses mostly?

[idle tiger]

Oh fuck yes

It’s F tier

[lean drum]

yea but the other bosses in that set arent too bad

wait was ||lost kin|| before or after the bench

[fiery iron]

Before

Its the || second boss in P4 ||

[lean drum]

oh then you can use ||dcrest|| to cheese him

and then switch charms in the middle

[fiery iron]

Hm

[idle tiger]

Ok and for ||white defender, you want to conserve as much soul as possible when he enters phase 2, so that you can spam spells during his jump-slams. Other than that, he is just a quicker Dung Defender. ||

[fiery iron]

But wich charm should i take out they are all good

[lean drum]

||heart|| imo

[fiery iron]

Imma do || Dcrest grubsong ||

Cool

[idle tiger]

There is also the ||juggle strat. When he turns into a ball and bounces around the arena, you can upslash him so that he bounces up and forward, then dash and repeat. Unless you break the juggle, he won’t ever go out of that state. Also he skips the phase 2 behavior if you go over the threshold while juggling.||

[lean drum]

||juggling lost kin||

but yeah i do that for ||white defender||

[idle tiger]

Nah speedrunners found it actually loses 0.001 second or 1/33 of a frame

[fiery iron]

I cant do that one and get hit lol

[idle tiger]

What do you mean by get hit

[lean drum]

it takes a little practice

just spam ||dash||

when the reaches the wall start walking the other way

[fiery iron]

I cant hold him in the air much

[lean drum]

always try to stay a bit ahead of him

[fiery iron]

Okay imma try now

[timber minnow]

||Defender's crest will automaticall kill the blobs as soon as they come near you||
This makes the fight a lot easier

[idle tiger]

My ||pantheon build is usually shaman, strength, mark of pride/quickslash, long nail/twister|| go for a combo build is best

[lean drum]

||longnail ||

[idle tiger]

Actually, I don’t recommend it. It’s a waste of a ||notch, it’s useless for every other boss, and it takes away all the soul you get from the ghosts||

[idle tiger]

Don’t laugh

[lean drum]

yes but its before the bench

so you can switch it out before the hard boss

[idle tiger]

It’s basically a ||2 notch mop||

[idle tiger]

Which boss

[lean drum]

||pv||

also what 2% are you missing

[idle tiger]

||p3 and p4. P3 cuz I’m lazy and p4 cuz I haven’t finished p3||

I’m changing my server name anyway

[timber minnow]

Oh I thought he was talking about|| dream bosses not pantheon|| my bad

[idle tiger]

No problem

[lean drum]

mfw no ||p3||

[idle tiger]

?

|| I die on Uumuu a lot despite practicing it so much. ||

[lean drum]

do it ||radiant||

to practice it super welll

[idle tiger]

It’s weird because I beat hard bosses so easily but there will be like one easy or medium boss that I die to every time

[gaunt field]

lets go man ||ascended pure vessel and I finally beat nkg: My hall of gods||

[acoustic sigil]

Looking good

[gaunt field]

honestly for l||ost kin||, i reccomend just using s||teady body|| and ||dcrest|| then run at him and spam with your nail and tank the damage, then heal while ||hes staggered||

[gaunt field]

thanks: its sad how I can beat|| ascended PV|| but can't beat a||scended Gorb||

[acoustic sigil]

Personally I found ||dream warriors t||he most cancer inducing bosses because of how annoying they are so not surprised tbh

[gaunt field]

there a lot of ||easy bosses that I can't beat ascended||

[gaunt field]

no true

||asc xero|| and ||markoth|| are harder than ||nkg ||for me not gonna lie

[acoustic sigil]

||asc markoth|| being hard is like the coldest take ever lmao

[gaunt field]

yeah ikr

[acoustic sigil]

||people consider radiant markoth as the 2nd hardest radiant so yeah||

Again not surprised

[gaunt field]

yeah

[acoustic sigil]

Anyway this is #hk-help so do you need help with anything?

[gaunt field]

yeah actually

tips for r||adiant pv?||

ive gotten to the ||void tendrils || twice

[acoustic sigil]

||Save your shade cloak for dire situations, don't use it as a standard response to a specific attack. Jumping over and pogo'ing pv is usually safer anyhow. Keep your distance so you don't get surprised by a triple slash||

[gaunt field]

and tips in general for ||NKG|| cause I beat him twice out of like 50 attempts, so I need to become consistent w him especially for ||p5||

[gaunt field]

yeah that is a problem, half the time my ||shade cloak isnt ready and I dash into death||

[fiery iron]

What is after || White defender || in || P4 ||

[lean drum]

idfk

[acoustic sigil]

A bench

[gaunt field]

bench

then ||failed champ||

[fiery iron]

Ok

I am allready at the bench i was asking wich boss was after

[gaunt field]

gotchu

[acoustic sigil]

Honestly for ||pv ||it's probably the easiest if you send a vid of you attempting it and then I can give tips based on that

[gaunt field]

not gonna lie i remeber first doing the ||pantheons|| and getting ||p2 before p1||

[gaunt field]

yeah sure one sec I think I have some

[acoustic sigil]

||Because I can tell you again not to use shade cloak so often but well that's not very helpful||

[bright sorrel]

thommie

not a ||shade cloak|| fan ic

[gaunt field]

my footage is purely ||shade cloak|| for dodge

[bright sorrel]

u can do that, it might not be the best option tho

[acoustic sigil]

||It will mess you up for when tendril happens and triple slash is quite tight with shade cloak||

Do not mention the charm that helps with that

[thick wing]

Whats the problem with || tendrils ||

[bright sorrel]

thommie probably means ppl will ||preemptively shade cloak into the tendrils||

[gaunt field]

unfortunately I have that equipped

[thick wing]

|| triple slash sure but nothing changes on tendrils? ||

[gaunt field]

that has happened to me a multitude of times

[acoustic sigil]

Case in point

[gaunt field]

no cuase you guess its s||oul daggers|| and d||ash|| into it, eliminating yourself

[bright sorrel]

wait a bit before u ||dash|| then

[thick wing]

Yeah because they think its || dagger throw ||, but you wouldnt seriously suggest jump strats for that

[acoustic sigil]

Watch me

[thick wing]

Thats stupid.

[gaunt field]

here my|| pv|| btw thommie : kind of an L attempt my bad

can confirm I am the bad

[thick wing]

Jump strat || dagger throw || is just bad advice, its completely unreasonable to suggest difficulty wise

[gaunt field]

this was my first att right after school lmao

[gaunt field]

shade cloak d||agge||r yes

[acoustic sigil]

I mean it's going quite well in the video

[gaunt field]

true but Im not consistent

[thick wing]

Yeah this is totally solid lol

[bright sorrel]

looks like u generally know what to do, u just need to keep trying

[thick wing]

Thats just practice honestly

[acoustic sigil]

||What for jump strat dagger throw are you thinking off? Just jumping before dashing doesn't make it harder does it||