hk-help

[thick wing]

Lore accurate as well

[delicate falcon]

Grev in help???

oh man

[lyric locust]

im guessing rthe second one is || queens gardens ||

[bright sorrel]

nop

poems are evil

[thick wing]

Since when am I not lol

[delicate falcon]

wtf anika

[thorny token]

Piano man in help? With Grev? Surely a cause for celebrations

[lyric locust]

cuz u said || thorns ||

[delicate falcon]

elegy of hallownest non-bees iirc

[lone badger]

No

[thorny token]

Just react with ❌✅ to help guide them

[lone badger]

Oh ok

[lyric locust]

|| greenpath ||

[delicate falcon]

surely no one misunderstood any of the riddles right.........

[lone badger]

[delicate falcon]

methinks I cant read them iirc

or like, have no brain rn

[thorny token]

Methinks the hk-discussion brainrot is real

[lyric locust]

|| crystal peak? but that place has spikes not thorns ||

[thorny token]

Different one lmao

[lyric locust]

bro

eruigf iwerhrt3f

give me another hint

[thorny token]

Not on any of those riddles

[thick wing]

Search up what "fumigating" means imo

[lone badger]

||fungal||

[thorny token]

Try a different riddle

[lyric locust]

ok

thanks

[stiff prism]

what the fuck happened to ||crossroads||

[thick wing]

Funny things

[slim bloom]

Yeah

[lone badger]

||it goopy||

[thorny token]

Orang

[stiff prism]

and why did i get some free ||dream circles||

[delicate falcon]

oh it is lmao

[thick wing]

Small chance when you kill an enemy

[stiff prism]

Worth to reexplore the region?

[lone badger]

Mayhaps for goodies

[stiff prism]

As In?

[shut sparrow]

||Charms, grubs or items you might have missed||

[stiff prism]

Oooh nice

[signal night]

I completed the game with ||100% completion||. What do I have to do to achieve ||112%||? I know it's very hard.

[unborn marten]

Do have the void heart edition?

[shut sparrow]

well that depends on what you have done so far. ||There are no set things for the first 100% and the last 12% so what you are missing could just be charms, mask shards, vessel fragments, upgrades etc or the dlc content||

[signal night]

PC Steam version

[warm pilot]

does ||beating ngk count towards that?||

[signal night]

I know ||path of pain|| exists and I need to do that. Where is it? (i suffered at normal ||white palace||)

[lone badger]

In ||white palace||

[unborn marten]

Yea im not a pc guy sorry can't help

[scarlet hull]

Void heart is normal

Its just called that for console

[neat karma]

Btw, voidheart and regular pc are the exact same thing

Excluding technical stuff its the exact same

[unborn marten]

Wait really?

[neat karma]

Yes

[glad lava]

Show charms and inventory

and map

[glad lava]

You do not need to do that, it’s optional pain

[lone badger]

Very satisfactory tho

[glad lava]

I don’t consider ||a cutscene where some guy looks at his son and a journal entry|| to be very satisfactory

[proper frost]

cool game true

[lone badger]

But the platforming itself

IMO feels fun to do

[river cedar]

Perhaps those in the ||lore channel|| might be more appreciative

[restive junco]

Whay charms should I use during the ||watcher knights fight||

What*

[river cedar]

What do you have?

[restive junco]

How do i do the spoiler pic thing on phone just in case

[languid radish]

No tag imgsoilers found.

[proper frost]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

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[restive junco]

Thanks

[river cedar]

I'd use ||Shaman Stone (cause using Dive is incredibly useful), Spell Twister, Soul Catcher, Grubsong and Longnail||

[restive junco]

Ight thanks

I'll try them out

[neat karma]

Yeah i agree with this

[river cedar]

Plus another tip, ||dreamnail the Watcher Knights before the battle starts for full soul||

[neat karma]

||both dreamshield and grimmchild are really bad for fights||

Or, just sbout any situations

Just bad

[river cedar]

Yea

[restive junco]

You can do that?

[river cedar]

Yea, it's actually incredbly useful

[restive junco]

Dam thx for the tip

[lone badger]

||Gchild|| ain't that bad

[neat karma]

But other than that, you should probably go charm hunting when youre out of this

[neat karma]

No no it is.

[lone badger]

[neat karma]

||Lacking damage with horrible aim that doesnt hit most of the time its shot||

[lone badger]

I like it

He a friend

[neat karma]

You like it ≠ good

[lone badger]

Ya know what, fair point

[restive junco]

After using your guys recommendations im left with ||2 more charm notches should I use life blood or dash master||

[lone badger]

||Lifeblood me thinks||

[neat karma]

We probably ahouldnt recommend stuff based on personal bias or cosmetics whenever that doesnt apply to the fight

[neat karma]

Please spoiler tag

[restive junco]

I right my bad

[lone badger]

Oh no, I agree that ||gchild is garbage in bosses||

[neat karma]

And in every other situation

Its purely cosmetic at this point

[lone badger]

But in ||like exploring its nice to have a friend||

[restive junco]

Fr

[neat karma]

So yes, cosmetic

[torn vector]

Any tips on ||watchers knight||?

I keep dying after the second one spawns in

[lone badger]

Damn

I do agree tho

Any normal situation there's ||better charms||

But if you're just exploring or anything, I ||like putting him on||

[restive junco]

Same

[neat karma]

Wait wait i just did the math how are you left with 2

The ||charm build is exactly 10 notches||

[restive junco]

It is

Did I miss somthing then

[neat karma]

Yeah probably

[river cedar]

Try ||dreamnailing Watchers before the fight for full soul before hand and use a lot of dives when they are rolling||

[restive junco]

I used this

[neat karma]

Yeah thats 10

[restive junco]

Lemme see

[lone badger]

Idk

[neat karma]

||shaman 3, grubsong 1, longnail 2, spell twister 2, soul catcher 2: 3+1+2+2+2 = 10||

[restive junco]

I forgot ||soul catcher||

[neat karma]

Lol

Also tags

[torn vector]

I keep dying still like right after the second part of the fight starts

[river cedar]

What is your charm loadout?

[shut sparrow]

Looks pretty good. I'd use ||shaman for either catcher or twister and gsong|| tho

[torn vector]

Alright

[river cedar]

Yea, you could ||drop Grubsong and Soul Catcher for Shaman if you spam dive||

[shut sparrow]

||quick focus would also be a good option||

[river cedar]

True, if ||he's dying quickly to Watcher Knights I'd be good||

[torn vector]

I’m still doing terribly

😭

[hollow prawn]

Ehhhhhhh

||waste of notches that could be used for shamans or qs since watchers actually have a lot of discreet healing opportunities||

[magic basin]

guys || pantheon 2 all bindings am onto the last boss i have never fouth before i know its an nail master but plaese anithing helpfull i need to know before i do it i have 2 hp i dont want to do obbleoles again||

[hollow prawn]

||the color of his paintbrush displays what attack he’s gonna do||

[magic basin]

fr?

[hollow prawn]

||yellow is a screen wide attack you can just jump over, but I forget the rest||

[hollow prawn]

Mhm!

[magic basin]

is there a yt video i can watch

for tips cuz i could find one

[hollow prawn]

I can’t check rn but I can just tell you the boss name if ur ok with that

[magic basin]

couldnt*

ye

[magic basin]

what is it?

[polar otter]

what's the best way to get lots of geo?

[hollow prawn]

||paintmaster sheo||

[hollow prawn]

Like, best best or realistically best

[magic basin]

tysm

[polar otter]

realistically i guess

i just need to get a lot quickly

[hollow prawn]

Can I see ur map and inventory please?

[polar otter]

like can i sell crack in game or somethjing

[polar otter]

yea

[hollow prawn]

I mean…technically?

[polar otter]

i finished mostly everything, i just have a few completion things left and ||godhome stuff||

[hollow prawn]

Yeah ok so ||lemm|| is good but you’ve done most of that I see

||colo2 farming|| is realistically your best bet

[polar otter]

||colo2?||

[hollow prawn]

Yeah

[polar otter]

what's that

[hollow prawn]

||colosseum of fools||

||trial 2||

[polar otter]

ohhh

those can be repeated?

[hollow prawn]

||it has the best geo to time/difficulty ratio||

[hollow prawn]

Yes, but rewards like the ||pale ore|| can only be gained once

[polar otter]

sweet, tysm!

does ||greed charm affect how much geo u get?||

[lone badger]

Heyo, Nix!

Doubt you remember me, but Mr. Mamma Mia

[hollow prawn]

I remember you

Lot of unnecessary spoilers at the start but got way better (like me)

[lone badger]

He he, yeah

We all start somewhere

[hollow prawn]

And I’m proof of that

[scenic egret]

nix you still give unnecessary spoilers smh

proof: just trust me

[shut sparrow]

It’s a very good charm imo. Especially for newer players it’s really helpful

[manic hazel]

Hey again lol

I swear every time I come here I see you

[shut sparrow]

hello 🖨️

[scenic egret]

nonsenf is just too active, thats why

[manic hazel]

I noticed...

What do yall think of my new pfp?

XDDDD

I made it cringe on purpose

[shut sparrow]

I‘m not even that active

[manic hazel]

And I love it

[shut sparrow]

It’s mainly timezones methinks

[manic hazel]

What time is it for you then?

[polar otter]

@hollow prawn ||why is it called colo2 if it's the 3rd trial?||

[shut sparrow]

did you add the eyes and ears?

[scenic egret]

?????

[manic hazel]

Those are blushes

[scenic egret]

its called ||colo3|| in that case

[manic hazel]

And yes

Thats almost all I added

[polar otter]

they told me to ||do colo2 and that it was the trial of the fool||

[manic hazel]

There is also an easter egg in the bottom left corner

But it is impossible to see

[scenic egret]

random mistake then

[shut sparrow]

oh yeah i’m I thought you also added the one eye above. Looks

[manic hazel]

Cuz it is cut off by discord

[scenic egret]

nix spreading misinformation again

[polar otter]

ok then lol

[polar otter]

[manic hazel]

Lmao

Yeah so what time is it for you?

[scenic egret]

this is proof that the old people have gone senile

[shut sparrow]

0:40am

[hollow prawn]

No @scenic egret @polar otter

I definitely said the second one

[scenic egret]

oh they just misunderstood

[bright sorrel]

nix🫵

[scenic egret]

#1 kendrick lamar fan back at it again with misinformation

[hollow prawn]

I don’t spread misinformation anymore I stopped doing that last week

[polar otter]

||ohhh right the colosseum is called the colosseum of fools oops||

[lone badger]

You never stopped iirc

Source: trust me bro

[hollow prawn]

Shut up ||the knight|| walk speed is 8.3 units/s

[bright sorrel]

[lone badger]

Damn

[hollow prawn]

(That’s actually true btw)

[scenic egret]

the knight

the knight's walk speed is actually 4.5 units/s

i will not elaborate on what the unit is

[hollow prawn]

dog(cat(snail(koala(hamster)))) back at it again with more misinformation

Units when referred to distance in hollow knight is the default Unity unit and thus, the word ‘unit’ specifies to that unless otherwise stated.

[bright sorrel]

ismoil is gonna say to get on topic

[hollow prawn]

No he’s not smh

[neat karma]

Uhm its akshueally 9.09616 MTZVG in relation to the framerate of the contestant ☝️

[hollow prawn]

Ismoil shut up

[neat karma]

(Trust me ive don e the math)

[neat karma]

Hiii incorrectnika

Ooh thats like a supervillain name

[hollow prawn]

But I have a TAS tool that does the math for me

[neat karma]

I should steal it from myself

[bright sorrel]

its my best attempt to snail ismoil

[neat karma]

Lazy

[hollow prawn]

Hi crispymoil

[scenic egret]

ani(ncorrect)ka

[neat karma]

Yeah but that doesnt sound like a supervillain

[hollow prawn]

Actually it can

Pronounced anin-correc-tika

[neat karma]

That goes a lil bit more superhero.imo

[simple island]

Imo

Basedanika

Just saying

[scenic egret]

she doesnt like neko atsume

unbased opinion

[neat karma]

Disagree, she dislikes among us

[sleek rapids]

Finally got further than ||nailmaster sheo on pantheon 5, I got to nosk but not nosk, how far did I get||

[lone badger]

I'd say close to halfway

Maybe

[bright sorrel]

[sleek rapids]

Not even halfway yet?
That feels kind of intimidating that it’s that long

[lone badger]

Its ||every boss||

What'd ya expect

[proper frost]

Yeah first runs usually take 40-50 minutes

[sleek rapids]

Right I forget sometimes how draining this is supposed to be

[dusty otter]

can somebody help me ???

[proper frost]

Try waiting

[lone badger]

Damn

[proper frost]

It's an actual advice,someone already had posed this question and was literally just impatiant

[lone badger]

Fair

[neat karma]

No im pretty sure thats just a crash.

[neat karma]

#1057825333841240104

[magic basin]

||i did it ofmg finally, i am freeeeeeeee ||

[lone badger]

What ||pantheon izzat?||

[topaz cipher]

||Can you shadow dash through these saw thingys?||

Also where tf am I

😭

[magic basin]

2

all b

[lone badger]

Show map

[lone badger]

Damn, gg

[magic basin]

ty

[topaz cipher]

I don’t have one for this area

[lone badger]

Ah, then describe where ya at

[topaz cipher]

A lot of white and saws

[lone badger]

Oh

[sleek rapids]

||I can’t even do the shell binding on pantheon 1💀, impressive||

[magic basin]

lol || dont reccomend trying all bindings, against obleobles panthion 2 u will lose your mind ||

[topaz cipher]

You know the name of this place?

[sleek rapids]

||white palace?||

[topaz cipher]

Im look it up and see if it’s the place I’m in

[topaz cipher]

Your a god sent🙏

[scenic egret]

you cannot

everything in ||white palace ignores all forms of shade cloak||, besides enemies

[topaz cipher]

Bro this place is hard😭

Thank god for ||hive charm||

[scenic egret]

please delete this, ill explain why shortly

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[low garden]

lol

[scenic egret]

there is a good chance they dont have everything in the game

[low garden]

true

[topaz cipher]

Didn’t he censor it tho?

[low garden]

dw about it

[scenic egret]

the natural thought is to click on something if its directed to you

[topaz cipher]

Fair

I have like all charms but 7 so we good

8 actually

[scenic egret]

one of the charms they listed is one of the last ones people get

[topaz cipher]

|| Holy shit I fucking hate these saws||

[scenic egret]

also a little silly thing: there may or may not be a few hidden walls in the area, one or two of them require jumping

[topaz cipher]

I ain’t finish reading what you wrote but I did see || something about manual healing, but I think I die to much for that, I’m on my 34th hit😭||

Yeah I give up, I’m loooking up how to do this😭

[tawdry pulsar]

Nah no way y’all named it unc spoilers

[neat karma]

Anything better than that?

[hollow prawn]

UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA SPOILERS FR

[topaz cipher]

|| what does the white fragment do, I got what seems to be half of it from beating white palace?||

[sleek rapids]

Find the other one and see

[topaz cipher]

Damn I thought I was done when I beat ||hollow knight|| but apparently there’s so much more😭

[sleek rapids]

Yep there’s WAY more, you may even get 100 hours on your save soon

[topaz cipher]

My lord

I’m at like 40 atm

[sleek rapids]

82 hours for me

[topaz cipher]

Dang

|| why is the trader knight harder than the hollow knight😭||

[scenic egret]

double damage is funny

[sleek rapids]

||who’s the trader knight?||

[topaz cipher]

||traitor lord*||

[sleek rapids]

Ohh mb

[topaz cipher]

I failed like 5 times so I gave up so I forgot the name

But now it seems I need to beat it to progress

[sleek rapids]

Idk if this is a spoiler but ||it is some big progression||

[eager shore]

Tag every thing you can lol

[topaz cipher]

Holy shit i suck at typing the “||”

[eager shore]

Lol, did you get ||shadow dash||?

[scenic egret]

everything past dirtmouth
not a core mechanic(eg: boss, charm, nail, downslash)
some exceptions(||shade, fury||)

[scenic egret]

"it is some big progression" is not a spoiler

woops left reply on

[topaz cipher]

Probably should || that

[scenic egret]

nothing is a spoiler

[sleek rapids]

Oh no rule break for once

[bright sorrel]

||nothing||

[topaz cipher]

||downslash||

[scenic egret]

not a spoiler

it is a core game mechanic

[topaz cipher]

Oh fr

[eager shore]

||112% be like:||

[topaz cipher]

I thought they all would be

[bright sorrel]

its only a spoiler if its referencing ||pogoing a spike|| :0

[topaz cipher]

What’s harder || traitor lord or hollow knight||

[scenic egret]

well, depends on context

second imo

[eager shore]

Both are easy

[sleek rapids]

||Hollow Knight is smarter tbh||

[topaz cipher]

🙄 agree to disagree

[eager shore]

Depending on your upgrades

[eager shore]

I am serious

[sleek rapids]

Well if you had something like ||sharp shadow||…

[topaz cipher]

I’m struggling 😭

Tho ||hollow knight was easy||

[eager shore]

I love ||sharp shadow||

[sudden ether]

Hii, where do i paste hollow knight custom skin?

[scenic egret]

its actually a downgrade

[scenic egret]

#modding-discussion

[sleek rapids]

Give it some credit at least, it’s good with a couple bosses

[eager shore]

If you have ||shadow cloak|| he is dog water

[scenic egret]

please provide examples

[eager shore]

Bet

[scenic egret]

i can think of 0

the only feasible use for the charm would be:

1. hitboxes
2. speedrunning

[eager shore]

MOST OF BOSSES

[scenic egret]

makes you deal less damage*

[topaz cipher]

Bro I have damn near everything you can get for this boss and am still getting my ass kicked

[sleek rapids]

Being able to ||dash|| through the ||traitor lord or pure vessel(maybe not the pure vessel since the dash has a limit)||

[wraith sail]

Using it for travel was cool and enjoyable

[scenic egret]

1. just pogo it
2. just pogo it

[wraith sail]

That doesnt mean its worse

[scenic egret]

it costs 2 notches and you dont get soul

[sleek rapids]

For beginners though it’s not so simple

[wraith sail]

Its a playstyle

[sleek rapids]

But as you advance ||USELESS JUST PARRY THE PURE VESSEL||

[eager shore]

||just stand still with steady body, fast nail and strength maybe, dash through him if he kneels down a little||

[scenic egret]

||try to pogo the charge if possible, since youll have a smaller chance of getting baited by the shockwave attack
it can only do the same attack twice in a row, so use this to predict the jump attack
for the jump attack, you can stand right next to it and heal||

[eager shore]

BRO THAT IS SUCH A GOOD TOOL TO DODGE AND DEAL DAMAGE

[topaz cipher]

Alright bet I’m try it again

[scenic egret]

pogoing also works for dodging

or just jumping

[eager shore]

Not always, my ass gets kicked when I want to

[sleek rapids]

I mean I did say it was good earlier, but only for a beginner level, later on it’s easier ||to either use regular shade dash or parrying attacks||

[eager shore]

When I parry I get stomped after

[scenic egret]

probably just need more practice to know how to pogo, since you most likely have not had a lot of pogo practice due to ||shade cloak existing||

[scenic egret]

parrying is NOT a good idea

[sleek rapids]

Gotta practice it though

[eager shore]

With a boss body hitbox

[sleek rapids]

I find it easier though

[astral bobcat]

I need help getting unrusty

[sleek rapids]

Like on ||PV||

[eager shore]

I get timings really good

[scenic egret]

uhhhh play the game

[astral bobcat]

Bet

[scenic egret]

ah yes triple slash parry

[sleek rapids]

I just ||parry one of his slashes and he’ll be behind me||

[eager shore]

Nope, I like pogoing a lot, I just not for all situations

[scenic egret]

pogoing or ||shade cloaking|| is far more lenient, and the former gives pretty much the same result

[sleek rapids]

Still tho, it just feels easier to me and the fact that it’s a game mechanic makes me feel like it’s what I should do

[scenic egret]

i feel like parrying was added as a leniency mechanic

[topaz cipher]

After like 10 minutes I finally got to the ||traidor lord fight||, I’m about to clutch

[scenic egret]

since its never enforced as opposed to everything else in the game, nor is it taught

[scenic egret]

🎉the journey there is painful(||thats why dream gates exist||)

[sleek rapids]

You can think that but I can’t help but feel ||parrying|| the ||slashes|| are easier, but other bosses on the other hand…just no I’m not doing that

[topaz cipher]

Fuck this game

[scenic egret]

||nkg|| parry i would say is far more feasible

[sleek rapids]

Honestly haven’t tried that before

I used ||sharp shadow|| then because it was a while back

[scenic egret]

like you dodge according to his attack, never before or after

[lone badger]

How so? Metaphorically or physically?

[topaz cipher]

||I HAVE TO HIT THIS MF 39 TIME!||

[topaz cipher]

At this point, both

[lone badger]

Damn

[astral bobcat]

||nkg ain’t hard ||

[lone badger]

That ain't even stratching the surface bud

[eager shore]

Which I don't use

[sleek rapids]

You’ve ||upgraded|| your ||nail|| as much as you could right?

[topaz cipher]

Yes

[astral bobcat]

During the fight stay calm

[scenic egret]

neither do i because i forgot they existed😎

[scenic egret]

nothing is hard if you think about it

[eager shore]

Lmao my boy

[lone badger]

I only use ||dreamgate for that quest||

[astral bobcat]

What is ||dream gate||

[topaz cipher]

||800 / 21 which is 38.09 which is sadly how much hits this prick takes to kill||

[eager shore]

Nothing is hard if you are skilled enough

[lone badger]

DW bout it

[astral bobcat]

Did I mis something important

[topaz cipher]

Wait actually what is it tho?

[lone badger]

If ya squeeze in some ||spells it goes quicker||

[eager shore]

||Get strength and fast nail||

[eager shore]

Actually no

[topaz cipher]

||Sooooo, I have never actually used spells besides for the cheese grimm strat||

[lone badger]

[topaz cipher]

🙂

[scenic egret]

yeah you should use them they increase your damage by an estimated 100%

[eager shore]

😡how could you, bastard!

[astral bobcat]

There’s a cheese

I wish I knew that

[topaz cipher]

It takes like 10 seconds with it

Tho it’s only for the first fight

[astral bobcat]

You are bad

[lone badger]

How dare you not use the ||Almighty lord and savior "shaman stone" to beat bosses in milliseconds!!!!||

[astral bobcat]

You cheesed him

[eager shore]

Not actually a cheese, just a winning strat, which I hate

[astral bobcat]

You big fat meanie

[scenic egret]

they were simply using an alternative strategy

[topaz cipher]

Shit is definitely a cheese

[scenic egret]

and making the most of a feature the devs put in

[eager shore]

Notry it on ||nkg||

[astral bobcat]

You cheesed ||grimm he’s the best fight in the entire game ||

[eager shore]

YESSS

[lone badger]

Subjective

[astral bobcat]

That is a🚩

[topaz cipher]

I did

[scenic egret]

mid imo iirc afaik

[eager shore]

Your best fight than?

[lone badger]

||Either SoB or NKG or PV||

[eager shore]

Hmm good choice

[astral bobcat]

You have good taste

[lone badger]

I know

[lyric locust]

is it possible to see how many deaths you have in a certain save in hk?

[astral bobcat]

No

[lyric locust]

damn

[topaz cipher]

Sadly no

[astral bobcat]

The only way is counting

[lone badger]

Snel

[eager shore]

||PV is awesome, beating it with no damage feels really cool, especially if it is pantheon 4||

[lone badger]

||Rad?!||

[eager shore]

Mods

[topaz cipher]

I’m to busy getting my ass kicked by ||traidor lord || to respond fast💀

[eager shore]

Nah

[astral bobcat]

||For me I prefer radiance than pv||

[lone badger]

Den don't

[topaz cipher]

What’s is ||PV||?

[lyric locust]

ah i remmeber when i had trouble with || traitor lord ||

[lone badger]

DW bout it

[topaz cipher]

Nah like what does it stand for😭

[eager shore]

||rad is cool but it is just not good enough for me||

[lone badger]

Most likely haven't got there

[scenic egret]

probably move this discussion over to #hk-discussion or #hk-general

[lone badger]

Oh right

[eager shore]

||pure vessel||

[scenic egret]

lots of random spoilers+offtopic generally isnt allowed

[scenic egret]

[topaz cipher]

Gate keeping in hollow knight is crazy

[lone badger]

U rite, u rite

[scenic egret]

not to sound demeaning or anything, but if youre struggling on ||traitor lord|| theres no way youre at that point

[lone badger]

[topaz cipher]

💀

Catch these hands 🥊🕴️🥊

[astral bobcat]

Andrew took 737353746476353774638356372745 points of emotional damage

[topaz cipher]

737353746476353774638356372746 but you were close

[astral bobcat]

[topaz cipher]

Alright, time for attempt number 8….

What’s could go wrong

[dusty otter]

its close. . . bro, i try do opening now. . . no, yeah same thing and close

[astral bobcat]

A lot

[topaz cipher]

FUCK

This game is making me question my life choices

[lone badger]

Don't play Celeste then

[topaz cipher]

Celeste?

[lone badger]

Hard as balls game

[topaz cipher]

Also is this a good charm set up for ||traitor knight||

How does one tag it?

[lone badger]

Delete, and then when sending, tap the image and mark as spoiler option click the box

[topaz cipher]

Thanks

[lone badger]

Np

[lone badger]

Mayhaps instead of ||thorns or stalwart, put smt else||

[topaz cipher]

I’m think replace the || quick focus because just die when i heal||

Any suggestions

[bright sorrel]

for what

[topaz cipher]

|| traitor knight||

This dumb ass boss

That I’m on my 9th attempt

[tawdry pulsar]

No unc like uncle

[bright sorrel]

||strength, shaman, quick slash, steady body, twister|| imo

if u ||die and strength breaks then replace it with catcher + grubsong or fury + grubsong||

[topaz cipher]

That 12 notches

Also I don’t use ||spells||

[bright sorrel]

oh ya i meant ||grubsong not twister||

[bright sorrel]

u should. especially in situations like this where healing is less consistent

[lone badger]

Yep

||ddark real good for panic option||

[bright sorrel]

some general tips for this boss are
||stay close to him. he has 2 main attacks: lunge, and a jump followed by a dive.

pogo his lunge or dash through it

for his other attack, if ur standing in front of him when he begins it, u can just stand still.

note that he does not do the same attack more than twice in a row. this makes him pretty predictable ||

[topaz cipher]

Does this look good, it’s a combination of what you said and the ones I like to use

[bright sorrel]

if u wanna try it sure

if u rly wont use ||spells much then imo swap shaman for fury ||

[lone badger]

And what else then?

[sleek rapids]

just rejoin the game if you get at one hp tho

[bright sorrel]

nothing

[topaz cipher]

Smart

[lone badger]

Isn't ||fury 1 and shaman 3?||

[bright sorrel]

||fury is 2||

[lone badger]

O

So then what other ||1 notch?||

[topaz cipher]

Actually im gonna try this

[bright sorrel]

nothing

[lone badger]

Damn

[topaz cipher]

I’ll update y’all after 9th attempt

[lone badger]

K

[topaz cipher]

Well

I died

And the charm broke…

[bright sorrel]

rip

[topaz cipher]

What should I use instead ?

[bright sorrel]

not rly a ||big deal if it breaks||

[topaz cipher]

Also idk about the spell thing, I never had success with it and it might be better to just use nail stuff

[bright sorrel]

u can try ||quick slash, mark of pride, steady body, fury, twister/sharp shadow||

[topaz cipher]

One problem with that, || this boss does 2 hits so fury is not the best for it||

[bright sorrel]

do u have an ||even number of masks||

[topaz cipher]

Here me out

[topaz cipher]

Yeah

[topaz cipher]

I just need the flower thingy but that is a pain

[bright sorrel]

||u can use lifeblood core instead of jonis. it gives the same for 1 less notch||

[topaz cipher]

I see

Is || grimmchild any good?||

[bright sorrel]

then if u want to add another ||lifeblood charm u can if u remove sporeshroom||

no

its bad 😳

[topaz cipher]

One problem, || I need to get there without taking damage if I want to use lifeblood||

[bright sorrel]

there shouldnt be many troubling enemies and tbh u can get hit once and it wont matter

[steady warren]

|||I've reached the throne room? I think in the white palace... am I suppose to receive something here or is it just to look at the king's corpse I think with the awoken dream nail?||

[topaz cipher]

Hella ||spikes||

[bright sorrel]

u must interact with it

[thick wing]

Oh no I missed Fordo

[analog locust]

.

[steady warren]

oh lol ty

[topaz cipher]

Attempt 10 here we go 🥲

Attempt 11 time!

[bright sorrel]

[topaz cipher]

Welp that was probably the farthest i have even got so that’s something

Attempt 12 here I come

[verbal saffron]

what are you attempting?

[topaz cipher]

|| traitor lord||

[verbal saffron]

epic tags fail

That's a fun fight at first imo, good luck!

[tawdry pulsar]

I miss you too

[topaz cipher]

Me and you have a very different definition of “fun

Attempt 13 is gonna be the one, trust

[thick wing]

[low timber]

How do i do the spoler tag thingy on pics?

[lone badger]

Select the image when sending and checkmark the mark as spoiler box

[low timber]

Ok, thank

[restive junco]

I'm still stuck on || watcher knights|| any good ways to doge their attacks

[lone badger]

||Roly Poly's?||

[restive junco]

Yep

[lone badger]

Well, show inventory

[restive junco]

You mean the thing I'm talking about right?

[lone badger]

Yep

[restive junco]

Idk if u ment ||charms|| so I'll get those

[astral bobcat]

How

[restive junco]

Wdym

[astral bobcat]

Did you get that exactly

[neat karma]

How many ||masks? Also i highly suggest you maybe take a break and go out exploring for upgrades||

[restive junco]

I was just thinking about getting ||quick focus actully|| should i

[neat karma]

||your nail could use some work and youre kinda lacking in charms for the point of the game that youre on||

[astral bobcat]

No it’s a bad charm

Also tags

[neat karma]

No its not bad its just the others are way better

It can really be useful

[restive junco]

I have ||7 masks||

[astral bobcat]

Not bad

[neat karma]

But yeah you definitely need bit more than just ||qfocus||

[neat karma]

Please tag this, and the message above

[astral bobcat]

Put || on both sides to tag

[verbal saffron]

imo you shouldn't be fighting that boss with your current gear, ismoil is right

hi ismoil!

[sleek rapids]

||If you are really set on fighting them, not that I recommend it, shaman stone is a must||

[restive junco]

Bet

Should I be trying to upgrade my ||nail|| or no

[verbal saffron]

yes

[neat karma]

Imo you really need to explore empty spaces in your map and places you couldnt access before, since from what i can gather by your inventory and charms it seems like youve been missing quite a bit of stuff and going mainly to story progression

[neat karma]

Always yeah

[sleek rapids]

||yeah nail means faster kills||

[restive junco]

Okay

Thx yall

[topaz cipher]

I FINALLY BEAT ||Traitor knight ||, only took 14 attempts and like 2 hours

[restive junco]

Good job

[sleek rapids]

Now get the thing and read its description to see what you do with it

[topaz cipher]

That’s a tomorrow me problem

[sleek rapids]

Yeah take a break that’s better

[gusty magnet]

First off tag that message as spoilers

[kindred goblet]

mb

||hey guys, i counted the grubs to check how many grubs i rescued (i already got the grubfriend achievement) but i just counted 16, why does that happen?||

(in the message above, we have a little little little little spoiler, doesnt change too much, but yea, its better to tag as spoiler)

[gusty magnet]

Yup

Anyways I think it might just be miscounting? Otherwise it's a glitch and I wouldn't worry too much

[kindred goblet]

i can send you print

[gusty magnet]

I can count and see yeah lol

[kindred goblet]

mb

i will tag as spoiler

oh

i cant

(i cant tag images as spoilers ;-;)

[gusty magnet]

Yeah you can hold on

[kindred goblet]

but i have this one

meaning i dont have 16 grubs

i have more

[gusty magnet]

?tag spoiler

[languid radish]

No tag spoiler found.

[gusty magnet]

Huhhhh

?tagspoiler

[kindred goblet]

i cant tag this image as spoiler

[gusty magnet]

Eat shit dyno

[kindred goblet]

i needto go

bye!

[gusty magnet]

?tag imgspoiler

[languid radish]

No tag imgspoiler found.

[gusty magnet]

I'm gonna scream

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[gusty magnet]

@kindred goblet

<@&283547423706447872> can we get some image deletion here?

[topaz cipher]

Thanks mods, or whoever deleted it

[glad sigil]

Can someone help me with a charm loadout for|| Failed Champion?||

[topaz cipher]

There’s a way to cheese it if you want to know it

[glad sigil]

nah

[gusty magnet]

Send pic of charms

[topaz cipher]

I have a decent set up for me but I don’t use ||spells|| so idk if you want it

[plain kettle]

you'd know if he wanted it if he asked but he didnt lol

[glad sigil]

I mean you dont get loads of soul from the fight anyways so I was probably going melee mostly anyways

zal what

[gusty magnet]

Anyways what charms do you have

[glad sigil]

rn I have ||mark of pride, quick slash, lifeblood heart and thorns||

[topaz cipher]

Tag that

[topaz cipher]

||How many charm notches?||

[gusty magnet]

Mark as spoiler

Also I meant all charms

Not just what's equipped

[glad sigil]

yeah but like itd be easier to listr what I should have versus listing every single one

[gusty magnet]

But I don't know what you should have because I don't know what you have

[topaz cipher]

You can take a picture and click it then hit set as a tag for spoiler btw

[glad sigil]

||9 notches ||but I just remembered I can get another

[topaz cipher]

What’s the hardest boss you have beat?

[glad sigil]

||THK||

[gusty magnet]

Okay so essentially ||thorns is terrible, it gives less iframes and you could just deal more damage tanking with the current iframes||

[alpine comet]

Get another|| notch || and for charms use || joni quick slash and strength (it doesn't break in dream world)||

[gusty magnet]

A solid setup you could do is ||soul catcher, quickslash, shaman stone strength if have enough notches||

Why use ||Joni||

[alpine comet]

Cuz more hp and just full send it

You can't get alot of soul anyway

[glad sigil]

wait I forgot that I couldnt get another ||notch || so I only have 9

[gusty magnet]

I feel it's a waste ||of notches||

[topaz cipher]

Yeah that’s the best

[glad sigil]

I thought I could still get another one from|| salubra ||but I already had

[topaz cipher]

You beat the basic ||Grimm fight?||

[glad sigil]

Nah

[topaz cipher]

I got all 11 before ||hk|| so it’s definitely possible for you, just need to know where

[glad sigil]

Im doing ||Failed champion ||because I didn't know what else to do or how to get to ||grimm ||and it seemed beatable

[topaz cipher]

|| it’s not a easy fight but you can cheese it with tanking and the upward spell ||

[glad sigil]

lemme try a couple with the one loadout you sent, I wasn't having loads of trouble but I thought that I could be doing it better

[gusty magnet]

That's still a lot of damage and not feasible for the full fight unless you use the other cheese method

[topaz cipher]

Just look up ||Grimm cheese strat YouTube and it takes like 10 seconds to beat ||

[topaz cipher]

For || Grimm or failed champ||?

[gusty magnet]

I thought we were still talking ||FC||

[glad sigil]

Im not gonna do the cheese btw

[alpine comet]

Bruh don't recommend cheese

[topaz cipher]

|| after 12 nail hits he goes down and you can use dream nail to get full soul and heal each time so it becomes easy||

[topaz cipher]

Why not

[glad sigil]

more fun

[topaz cipher]

Play the game how you like, and some people like cheese

[glad sigil]

lemme grab another notch then Ill do it

not the chgeese

[alpine comet]

Yeah but he didn't ask for a cheese and neither help

For ||grimm||

[topaz cipher]

Fair

I mean it’s always good to know your options

[gusty magnet]

Yeah but cheese strats take the fun out of a game unless you figure them out on your own

[glad sigil]

thats what ruined botw for me, I learned speedrun strats before I played the game fully and then got bored before I really did anything

[topaz cipher]

Yeah that’s fair

[glad sigil]

Lol i beat it first try with the loadout

[topaz cipher]

I speedrun lots of game so I always do the fastest way and forget most people don’t like doing that

[topaz cipher]

😭

Bros him

[topaz cipher]

Except this game because it’s hard as fuck

[glad sigil]

Where are the other ||dream warrior thingies||

like the big ones, not the ones ||with statues around the map that give 100 essence||

[gusty magnet]

so if you mean the ||dream version of bosses|| where are you in the game rn

cuz I can list out all of them if you want but I don't want to spoil bosses you might not have fought yet

[glad sigil]

done ||THK,|| but not ||grimm ||or anything

[gusty magnet]

okay so these bosses
||False Knight
Dung Defender
Broken Vessel
Soul Master||

||there's 1 more that gives essence but that's a surprise boss and I don't wanna spoil if you haven't encountered it yet or know about it||

[glad sigil]

K thanks

[gusty magnet]

yeah just go back to the arenas and you can do them ||similar to failed champion, dung defender is a bit hidden tho||

[broken turret]

||marmu|| was easy i played voleyball with it any other ||dream warriors that give good essence||

[glad sigil]

Lfg ||soul tyrant ||2nd try

ig this isnt really help channel discussion anymore but whatever

[broken turret]

Ol

[scenic egret]

they all give roughly the same amount
either way youll have to do them all

[broken turret]

Ok

[gusty magnet]

i mean you don't HAVE to

||could farm birds for 45 hours||

[river cedar]

Bad idea

[glad sigil]

I got ||awakened dream nail,|| should I got for ||grimm or white palace?||

Like what is supposed to come first

[alpine comet]

there is no order

[lone badger]

Ye

Just whatever ya wanna do

[autumn coral]

||Grimm gives a charm notch and adds access to new charms but white palace unlocks story, whichever one would be simpler or more useful at the moment might be better to start with although order doesn’t really matter||

[silk temple]

||Hey is royal waterways is for mid or early game||

[alpine comet]

mid

[silk temple]

I think i am in early

Another place i can't go mean

[alpine comet]

if your not struggling doenst matter

[silk temple]

I struggle a lot in this game i just start playing 4 days ago

[alpine comet]

its natural to struggle

[lone badger]

Indeed

[silk temple]

||Btw what the radical egg do ||

[lone badger]

||Rancid?||

[alpine comet]

not much

[silk temple]

I don't remember correctly what they called

[silk temple]

Mean they are useless i have 3 of them (i even bought one)

[lone badger]

||Depends what mode, but in context to your previous statement of just starting, find a simple key and give them to the person inside to get your regrets back||

[alpine comet]

close to useless

[lone badger]

Ye

[alpine comet]

you might find it useful in a particular situation

[lone badger]

Indeed

[silk temple]

I already got 2 (one found and one bought and unlocked that guy

So which direction i should go already went east and west and i can't find anything in the north or south

This is my map

[alpine comet]

just keep exploring the area you are in

[silk temple]

Ok another 6 hour i guess

[river cedar]

Wait what are you trying to find?

[midnight fossil]

||as someone who has beaten the game, uhhhh which surprise boss do you even mean here... nkg????||

Just asking lol

[jade sedge]

||Zote||

[midnight fossil]

OH RIGHT HAHAHAHHAA

[silk temple]

Some kind of boss or a new place

[glad sigil]

have you killed ||mantis lords?||

[silk temple]

Hmm. Yes i think

[glad sigil]

i dont think you have

[silk temple]

But after killing them my phone switched off so it didn't save

[glad sigil]

double ceck

oh shoot

well its not that bad of a fight u got it

[silk temple]

Is there something important My friend told me it is not important so i didn't go there again

[glad sigil]

well its a new area

[silk temple]

Ok i beat them they are easy

I beat them in my 3rd attempt last time

[glad sigil]

also check ||under city if you have a key||

[silk temple]

||City of tears? ||

[glad sigil]

yeah

[silk temple]

||U mean royal waterways||

But it for mid game right

[glad sigil]

yeah but theres oither areas as well

yeah but youre in mid game from what I can tell

[silk temple]

Really but someone told me i am not

[glad sigil]

how much of a big hint are you looking for

[midnight fossil]

Dont give too much of a hint

[silk temple]

I beat ||hornet 1st ,false knight ,soul master, crystal boss and ability crystal thing ,dash ,spirit thing and, soul master ability ||

[midnight fossil]

what

Can you separate those with commas? Pls

[silk temple]

Ok

Stupid keyboards always erase things automatically

Am i in mid game?

[glad sigil]

pretty much'

[silk temple]

Ok ty

[midnight fossil]

||Spirit thing??||

[silk temple]

The first ability

[midnight fossil]

Ohh

The ||mothwing cloak||

[glad sigil]

nope\

[silk temple]

Na

[midnight fossil]

Epix

[glad sigil]

||vengeful spirit||

[midnight fossil]

Huh

OH

[silk temple]

Yes

[glad sigil]

actually, the best thing you can do rn is to ||go back to crystal caverns now that you have the crystal dash, and look around there||

[silk temple]

||Ok i didn't find pale ore either i think it found in there right ||

[glad sigil]

||pale ore isnt neccessary but yeah||

i can be more specific if you dont want to spend too much time looking around

[alpine comet]

just check map for unfinished paths

[silk temple]

This much is ok

[alpine comet]

||i think it need monarch wings to get to it||

[silk temple]

I just spoiled my next ability

[glad sigil]

tesscar dont read:||nah if you fallinto the pit before ddark you dont need it||

[alpine comet]

bruuuuh

[silk temple]

Btw i found a dark place in crystal peak

Is there a switch or something that can turn on light

[glad sigil]

nah you buy something for that

[alpine comet]

you carry the switch

[silk temple]

The 1800 thing in store

[glad sigil]

yeh

[silk temple]

It looks like a lartern

[glad sigil]

yep

[silk temple]

I have 52 geo

Is there a ways to grind geo fast

At my level

[glad sigil]

do you have ||relics like wanderer's journals or hallownest seals||

bec you can sell them

[silk temple]

I sell them and buy simple keys and 2 charms btw do the sprint charm do anything

[glad sigil]

but I wopuld say don't worry about that rn, ||theres something else In peak you should look for||

[silk temple]

Ok

Btw these are my charm

[glad sigil]

maybe buy some ||charm notches from salubra||

[silk temple]

Is there any other way

Or just grind for hours

[glad sigil]

yeah ||theres a spot in city that you can sit at a bench and respawn enemies pretty fast to grind geo||

where are you rn?

[silk temple]

||Near the gate of royal waterways||

|| which need a simple key||

[candid wing]

Is there a mod somewhere that mutes ||the collectors laugh?||

[silk temple]

Collector another spoiled bruh

[glad sigil]

||Yeah dw about that it unlocks stuff but I tihnk what you should do rn is go back to peak and look for a place you can use crystal dash||

[hardy grove]

sorry

[silk temple]

?

[hardy grove]

I wasn't there when you ping.

[silk temple]

Ok

[silk temple]

It ok

[hardy grove]

You still need help with something?

[candid wing]

my bad

[silk temple]

Na

[hardy grove]

Have a wonderful day!

[silk temple]

I did it 3 times today not your fault

[silk temple]

U too

Bye

@glad sigil thank you for help

[glad sigil]

yeah i gtg

good lucl

[silk temple]

Thanks

[glossy dock]

does ||strength affect nail arts||

[silk temple]

@glad sigil can u tell where I should i go i am tired of going left and right

[thorny token]

Nope

[silk temple]

Tkd cam u tell

[thorny token]

?

[silk temple]

Where should i go i am Tried of going left and right

[thorny token]

Where are you?

[silk temple]

Wait i send u my current map

[silk temple]

Where should i go

[thick wing]

I got problems on ||radiant markoth||

[silk temple]

I don't have light

It is nearly impossible

[thorny token]

Get it

[silk temple]

It 1.8k i am at 600

[rigid fractal]

||Whats ur probelm||

[thick wing]

Beating him

[rigid fractal]

||Almost halfway there|| :3

[rigid fractal]

What set u use

[silk temple]

So there is no other place

[thorny token]

There are

[thick wing]

||Nail build.Strenght qck slash mark of pride Steady body||

[thorny token]

There's that ||simple key|| you needed that you were talking about

Those are the two 'best' things to do rn

[rigid fractal]

||Imo qslash isnt rly useful since u dont get much room to hit him. I recommend using NMG to spam dash/great slash on him. Then have a spell build to blast him during phase 2||

[thick wing]

Cool il try it

[rigid fractal]

Something ||like NMG , shaman , twister , soul eater maybe?||

[thick wing]

Without ||MoP|| its pretty hard to hit him imo

[rigid fractal]

||The nail arts has a lotta range. Dont need to use normal hits. But if u wanna use it, replace soul eater with MoP||

[thick wing]

Alright

Thanks

[silk temple]

||Should i deposit my geo in the bank near queen station||

[rigid fractal]

If u want :3

[silk temple]

Ok

[proper frost]

Tags

[rough ether]

Please edit your message with spoiler tags

[silk temple]

Done sorry forgot about it

[eager shore]

||dump 4500 geo in one move and see what happens after you will go back there, you'll thank me 😉 ||

[silk temple]

?

[silk temple]

What will happend

[rigid fractal]

||Its a surprise. But i recommend deposit 4500 geo in one go. If u have any geo, withdraw until its 0 then deposit 4500. What will happen? Here's a hint: 📈 ||

[silk temple]

Hmm.. I don't think so by line of that guy

The lines he say

[rigid fractal]

Yeah. Its a mystery

Find out for urself

[vernal cape]

After ||depositing 4500 you can rob her||

[silk temple]

I don't think a
Any good thing happened if i deposit it

[silk temple]

Hmm.. I will try it i guess

[rigid fractal]

You do you man :3

[silk temple]

What could possibly happen

Other than stealing from him or doing nothing or runaway

Ok bye i go and try once i have 4500 geo

[rigid fractal]

||Millibelle i||s a she :(

[eager shore]

Good choice

[silk temple]

From 5 hour of grind

[silk temple]

Oh

Done

[eager shore]

||use auto geo collect charm and greed||

[silk temple]

I deposit it

But nothing happened

[rigid fractal]

|| Dont mention accidental spoilers :(. He might not hav it||

[rigid fractal]

Thats fine. It takes time

[silk temple]

Ok

[vernal cape]

||Leave and come back you will get a gun and you can rob her||

[rigid fractal]

||Me when hollow point ||

[slim bloom]

||Compound interest ||

[silk temple]

Wait a sec

Where he go

[river cedar]

That’s crazy

[silk temple]

Hmm.

Did u guess know this was about to happened

@river cedar @slim bloom @rigid fractal @vernal cape @eager shore

[river cedar]

…

[vernal cape]

What!!

[eager shore]

||DESTROY SHOP||

use nail

[vernal cape]

Nobody knew!!

[silk temple]

?

How i destroy it

[eager shore]

hit all u can

in the room

[silk temple]

Ok

It fell down

It was fake

?

[vernal cape]

[eager shore]

and the sign

[eager shore]

||do you have simple key?||

[silk temple]

No

[river cedar]

Have y’a ||bought the one from Sly||

[rigid fractal]

Welp. As Person said, "compound interest"

[silk temple]

I already did for royal waterways

[rigid fractal]

U know what is compound interest? :3

Or just interest

[silk temple]

Negative interested

I got rob lol

[eager shore]

u can get another one

[river cedar]

Well ||did you get the one in the room below the City Storeroom stag?||

[silk temple]

I don't have the money

00

[eager shore]

u need it to get mon

[silk temple]

Geo

Mon?

[eager shore]

*geo

[silk temple]

Geo = money

[eager shore]

yes

[silk temple]

Basically

How i get my money back

[eager shore]

have you been in the city?

[river cedar]

You ||don’t need geo for the one I mentioned||

[proper frost]

Tag likely

[silk temple]

||I found one in the city for free and also used it||

[eager shore]

hmm

[river cedar]

Uh…

Can you show your full map?

[silk temple]

Is it all gone?

[eager shore]

yes please

[eager shore]

no 😉

[river cedar]

I just need to know where you’ve been so I don’t spoil anything