hk-help

[fallen tundra]

whats the diffrent between ||nkg|| and ||tlg|| boss

[exotic wedge]

tlg?

[fallen tundra]

||trouple leader grimm||

[exotic wedge]

oh

i know wait

well

the first one is faster

+double damage

and hes faster a lot

[feral tusk]

||nkg is a buffed version||

[fallen tundra]

can someone give me a build for the ||4th phase little demonic things theyre annoying||

[slow yoke]

||strength, shaman, quick slash||

[fallen tundra]

yea but its not ||unbreakable||

[slow yoke]

is this for ||troupe master?||

[fallen tundra]

and i cant use

it

[fallen tundra]

no bruh

not the ||boss||

[slow yoke]

oh

[thick wing]

It's for ||grimmkin nightmares smh||

[exotic wedge]

the fire guys

[fallen tundra]

the ||flame things||

[fallen tundra]

yea those ig

soo

what build

i hate those

[exotic wedge]

survive

[tropic seal]

||shaman stone, spell twister and range or health||

[exotic wedge]

thats your today’s build

wtf N in help

[tropic seal]

||also pick full soul before the fight||

[exotic wedge]

:omgrubnote:

[tropic seal]

wtf monke in help

:omnotegrub:

[exotic wedge]

nah im ruining everything i think

[lone badger]

Monke

[exotic wedge]

its just the matter of time when will i say the next unnec spoiler

on accident

[thick wing]

И smh

[exotic wedge]

[lone badger]

Just be careful

[exotic wedge]

И is my favourite member

of server

[tropic seal]

ermm lying

[exotic wedge]

though i heard Й is cooler

[exotic wedge]

wtf betrayal

i goto bees

[tropic seal]

gn monke

[exotic wedge]

wth

N mean

[thick wing]

I pronounce cyrillic as crylic

[tropic seal]

oh mann whar

[thick wing]

Like acrylic

You know, I wonder why so many hk-disc people are in #help these days

[lone badger]

Probably because hk-discussion is not really hk-discussion

Its not really on topic most of the time

[thick wing]

It's not that lol, hk-disc is like the least moderated channel compared to here, where even regular members practically moderate

[lone badger]

Damn

[lone badger]

Probably because its so active

[thick wing]

Yeah but what's with the recent increase I wonder

[slow yoke]

Silk song

[lone badger]

Idk man

[slow yoke]

thats why

ya

[fallen tundra]

||nkg|| build

[tropic seal]

||strength, quick slash, spell twister||

[lone badger]

||Strength, gsong, mop, shamans||

[spark karma]

any tips for ||white dung defender||?

[fallen tundra]

its ||fragile|| tho

[lone badger]

||NKG is a dream fight||

[tropic seal]

||doesnt break in dreams||

[fallen tundra]

oh fuck

okay

i just go to the big ||tent|| again right

[slow yoke]

||nmg is also good for grim||

[lone badger]

Ye

[mellow tusk]

||
Mop
Strength
Fury of the fallen
Dcrest||

[fallen tundra]

whats ||nmg||

[slow yoke]

the ||nail art one||

[fallen tundra]

whats ||mop||?? 😭

[fallen tundra]

oh

[lone badger]

||Nail masters glory||

[mellow tusk]

||mark of pride||

[slow yoke]

||mark of pride||

[tropic seal]

||hit him occasionally, not too much. Then go back and upspell his shit balls when you can so spell twister is recommended. Upspell him during phase 2 when you're right next to him and avoid corners very much||

[fallen tundra]

OH

[lone badger]

||Scream in his balls, lol||

[spark karma]

okey thx

[tropic seal]

yw, gl with him!

[lone badger]

Ye!

[slow yoke]

||every time he turn into a pufferfish is 25% of his health||

[lone badger]

Ye

[slow yoke]

is it 25 or 20

[lone badger]

||75, 50, 25||

[slow yoke]

yea so 25

[vital zodiac]

||can i fight king grimm if i only have the normal hollow knight game?||

[bright sorrel]

yes

the DLC's come with the game by default

[vital zodiac]

alr ty

[slow yoke]

the "dlc" are just the updates post game

[broken turret]

Is there any good ||charm|| to easily beat ||hornet in kingdoms edge||

[bright sorrel]

charms arent always super important

[tropic seal]

||what are your charms and how many notches u got?||

[broken turret]

alr checking

[bright sorrel]

its better for u to focus on learning the fight itself iirc.

do u struggle with anything specifically?

[broken turret]

The spikes

and

Uhh

[tropic seal]

||you can use ur fireball spell to remove them all in one-go||

[broken turret]

She swings his needle and

[mellow tusk]

||qslash||

[broken turret]

That she dashes

[mellow tusk]

Just ram her

[broken turret]

I mean every one ability

[bright sorrel]

u shouldnt mention stuff they may not have

[broken turret]

I have ||Quick slash||

[bright sorrel]

regardless of u having it, they didnt know that

[tropic seal]

||when you see her jump, she's either gonna dash towards you or make a needle ball. Dash in the opposite direction||

[broken turret]

What was thag video

That

send it in the dms

[broken turret]

Alr

[slow yoke]

tanking kinda bad

[alpine comet]

[rugged veldt]

🐏

[stiff prism]

||broken vessel|| is so hard agh

what will i get if i do beat em?

[rigid fractal]

A ||new ability||

Quite useful

[jade sedge]

Here you should first ask what charms they have before mentioning their names so you dont spoil them

[broken turret]

oh my bad

[broken turret]

What charms you have? (Send in dms)

[jade sedge]

You can also send the image here. Then others can help too, and its generally better to stay here because there are rules here

[alpine comet]

[lone badger]

Ye

[slow yoke]

Can me do ||pop again?||

[alpine comet]

No

[slow yoke]

😱

[lone badger]

On another save, yes

[alpine comet]

obviously

[slow yoke]

thats like 5 hours...

[alpine comet]

also possible with mods

[slow yoke]

me console player 😭

[alpine comet]

RIP

[lone badger]

Me too, done it three times too

[supple mortar]

||does anyone have any tips for watcher knights||

[jade sedge]

Can you send a screenshot of your inventory

[alpine comet]

||generally try to stay in the middle of the arena and use vengeful spirit for double hits also try to use the walls to avoid when conererd||

[balmy sundial]

||try to keep them both on one side as much as possible or at the very least on your screen as much as possible to be able to react better to attacks.||

don't tunnel on healing just cause you are low on hp

[jade sedge]

Please delete the image, you can resend it with spoiler tags

[alpine comet]

also there is || breakable wall before the arena which will help ||

[supple mortar]

How do i spoiler a picture

[alpine comet]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

No tag imgspoiler found.

[balmy sundial]

:(

[supple mortar]

Huh

[jade sedge]

This shows

||For general tips, heal if you get both killed at the same time, you can dnail them before the fight for soul and dnail when they spawn. Even though it doesnt deal damage, you can pogo when they are rolling. Stay close if you dont want them to roll. Use dive as much as possible, the iframes help a lot. Spells can damage them even when they are rolling||

[supple mortar]

||i just dodge and use dive but its still annyoing when they both roll at me in the same time||

[stiff prism]

about half an hour late but still stuck at ||BV||

[true finch]

Is there anything in particular you struggle with? The charm loadout is good

[jade sedge]

Acronyms need spoiler tags too

[stiff prism]

||the JUMPS and the flying bastards||

[tropic seal]

||you could replace shaman stone and spell twister by quick focus and soul catcher if you struggle with this loadaout||

[stiff prism]

i suck at healing idk if it would work

[tropic seal]

aight so keep this one

[true finch]

||yeah the jumps are annoying. Try to avoid jumping in this battle unless he dashes towards you on the ground. Every other time, just stay on the ground and dash.

Also you don't have to deal with him now, you could come back when you're stronger if you want||

[proper frost]

||The untimate way to counter jumps is to just not jump yourself when unneccsssery ||

But true

[stiff prism]

if you know anywhere else to go i'd be happy to hear

[proper frost]

And the best strategy is to always ||kill the ghosts asap||

[true finch]

At this point in the game there's probably tons of places to go

[stiff prism]

but at the same time i feel it's so close, it's not a curb-stomp i am just not good enough

[fallen tundra]

ive been trying for a hour and a half straight to fight ||nkg||. help.

[jade sedge]

||Any unexplored exit on the map really||

[stiff prism]

none i can think of unironically, there's only the ||sewers ||but i have no map

[lone badger]

Don't feel bad, he difficult

[fallen tundra]

i wll find you and invite you to a lunch for croissaunts

[lone badger]

Whar?

[fallen tundra]

nothing

[jade sedge]

||The map for that area is on the left side, you could go look for cornifer||

||Though if you can, fighting bv is a good option too||

[slow yoke]

what attack kill u?

[fallen tundra]

idk really i just keep taking stupid damage

not a specific one

im decent at dodging them but i just keep taking stupid hits

[lone badger]

So just over all

[alpine comet]

Don't worry you got this

[stiff prism]

if it wasn't for stupid damage i'd already be fighting whoevers in charge

[proper frost]

You might try ||stalwart shell||

[alpine comet]

Bruh

Who uses that shit

[proper frost]

[stiff prism]

also going to try a|| heal build|| who knows maybe i'll suck less

[fallen tundra]

the most i got to was 50% by now

[fallen tundra]

how would i do that

oh

wait

i thought that was a reccomendation

stop

[alpine comet]

For || bv||?

[slow yoke]

for who?

[spark karma]

||broken vessel||

[stiff prism]

yes

[slow yoke]

oh

[alpine comet]

A || spell build destroys him||

[spark karma]

it took me around an hour to beat ||bv|| just dont give up

[stiff prism]

clearly you haven't met my skill issue

should i use ||soul eater|| though? either with ||the spell or heal build||

[spark karma]

nah ur just a bit new to the game everyone was bad at the start xd

[alpine comet]

||spell twisters much better for spell build||

[spark karma]

also use ||shaman stone||

||shaman stone || op

[alpine comet]

||try shaman spell twister and soul catcher for one attempt might defeat him with this||

[trim radish]

I'm getting consistent at ||abs rad||
I feel like the platform phase can either be a piece of cake or a living nightmare depending on the spawn spots but even just waiting is risky since you can only dodge so many orbs before you choke.
Is there any consistent way to destroy the orbs like ||crystal dashing|| on one of the walls?

[fallen tundra]

OMFG

THERE IS NO WAY BRO

IM ACTUALLY

ENDING IT

[stiff prism]

i'm at more than 40 attempts

[slow yoke]

u die?

[fallen tundra]

BRO I GOT ||NKG TO 25% then hit like 5 more times with the abyss shriek|| AND HE SOMEYHOW DIDNT DIE

[stiff prism]

i've been using that this whole time

[fallen tundra]

LIKE WHAT THE HELL

[spark karma]

youll get it

[lone badger]

He tanky

[fallen tundra]

HOW tanky

[slow yoke]

very

[lone badger]

Tanky

[spark karma]

ye

[alpine comet]

Yeah it can be a nightmare but still better to just wait for the centre spawn much safer that way

[trim radish]

I know but I'm not the best at dodging the orbs while waiting so is there a good way to dodge them apart from jumping around everywhere and risk getting confused

[lone badger]

For the ||last phase?||

[trim radish]

platform

[alpine comet]

Use || ddark for orbs ||

[lone badger]

O

[trim radish]

usually saving for|| shrieks|| or healing

[alpine comet]

What

[trim radish]

plus I don't have infinite soul

[alpine comet]

It's better to just not get hit than to save for healing

Also you can get a few hits in with the corner spawn

[trim radish]

depends. sometimes I go into the climb with full health and sometimes I go in with like 4

[alpine comet]

|| if you don't use quick focus || you can't heal safely on the climb

[trim radish]

||quick focus|| is for rookies

I don't have the charm notches unless I remove ||shaman||

[alpine comet]

What build you running

[supple mortar]

||what charms are good for watcher knights om using soul catcher and shaman stone rn||

[alpine comet]

Send charm inventory first

[trim radish]

||fast slash, strength, shaman, grubsong and steady body||

[alpine comet]

This is good tho

[trim radish]

I would use ||heart instead of grubsong and steady body|| but I can't beat ||PV|| without||steady body|| unless I practice

[supple mortar]

||cant get a good pic rn but i have grubsong soul catcher dreamshield mark of pride long nail shaman stone fury of the fallen and dashmaster||

[alpine comet]

Then it's good what you using currently

[fallen tundra]

ive now been trying ||nkg|| for almost 2 hours and im nowhere near beating it

[alpine comet]

|| heart ||is not that good imo

[trim radish]

what else am I supposed to use bruh

[idle tiger]

for what?

[alpine comet]

Id recommend go full || spell build ||

[supple mortar]

Im still somehow diyng a lot im on my like 50th attempt

[idle tiger]

thats just ||shaman stone|| and i guess ||spell twister if you want it to be quicker||

[trim radish]

||soul catcher|| as well might be good

at the end of the first phase if I take too much hits I don't have soul to heal fully for platform phase

[alpine comet]

|| have you unlocked the breakable wall before the arena ||

It's above

[fallen tundra]

is he having trouble with ||watcher kngihts||

[alpine comet]

|| soul catcher soul eater twister and shaman just destroys radiance ||

[fallen tundra]

ik

[alpine comet]

Ye

[supple mortar]

||no il try and find it||

[alpine comet]

Yeah just before the arena after the elevator

[fallen tundra]

i fucking hate ||nkg||

[idle tiger]

oof

you want some tips?

@fallen tundra what are your charms?

[fallen tundra]

i cant open rn bcs im in his ||realm||

so wait

[idle tiger]

mb sorry

[fallen tundra]

this because nail wont do any damage anyway so no point in using anything else

[idle tiger]

ok so a few things to note

[fallen tundra]

i didnt mean to send that

anyway

[idle tiger]

keep ||shaman stone|| but get rid of ||weaversong and grubsong|| and replace them with ||fragile strength, it won't break cuz your in the dream realm||. also, you are missing a ||charm notch||, which you really should get because that would allow to have a ||one notch charm if you keep spell twister|| or if you remove ||spell twister|| then it will let you have a ||3 notch charm like mark of pride|| or maybe ||quick slash||

are you aware that you are missing a ||notch|| @fallen tundra

[fallen tundra]

oh

bruh

[idle tiger]

||quickslash sucks against nkg cuz hes so fast and like half the time your hitting him with nail its for a pogo so it wont even let you get another hit||

[lone badger]

Both s tier charms

[slow yoke]

||mop is ok quick slash is the shit||

[fallen tundra]

i dont have time rn to do allat so yea

tommorow ig

[proper frost]

That build is pretty nice
||though as i've said before you might want to try stallwart shell but not saying it will carry||

[alpine comet]

Yo what you on

[lone badger]

For just ||NKG?||

[idle tiger]

@fallen tundra ||you start with three notches, 4 are sold from salubra, 1 from a shrugal ogre arena, one in a room in Fog Canyon, one from the Colosseum, and one from defeating normal grimm||

[fallen tundra]

i can check where i forgot it if i want but i need to get off in a bit anyway rn so

[idle tiger]

||obviously you defeated normal grimm so ima assume your missing the fog canyon one since you probably got the salubra ones, you probably did the colosseum, and you probably found the shrumal ogre arena||

[thick wing]

People acting like || MoP || isnt part of the meta set depending on situation is very silly

[idle tiger]

alr

||mark of pride is atleast A tier no matter what. at the very least its a quality of life charm||

[dire lintel]

ok jere

[idle tiger]

||id actually say that longnail is better than mark of pride in late game because its two notches and does basically the same thing||

[thick wing]

Lmao the hk-disc brainrot

That still depends on the situation

[alpine comet]

Bruh that || 1 notch range upgrade is huge||

[lone badger]

Indeed

[idle tiger]

yeah and that ||one notch overcharm|| really feels nice doesnt it?

less ||notches||, more versitile

[lone badger]

If they get that ||last notch||

[alpine comet]

Who said || overcharm|| just get rid of that shitty one notch

[idle tiger]

using ||longnail lets you use shaman, strength, and quickslash without overcharming for like what? 10% less nail size thats like FIFTEEN PIXELS OR SOMETHING||

[idle tiger]

no cuz i run a ||build with three 3 notch charms||

[slow yoke]

||mop is overated||

[idle tiger]

exactly also lets stop arguging in the help channel

[alpine comet]

Overhated too

[vital zodiac]

||how much essence do you need for awoken dream nail?||

[slow yoke]

1800

[vital zodiac]

ty

[lyric locust]

Guys, I have || 7k geo, what should I spend it on ? ||

[fair lake]

Go to every shop you've come across.
XD

But mainly buy ||charms, notches and certain pins.||

[lyric locust]

I dis

I did

Still a lot money

[calm jacinth]

anyone have any advice for ||troupe master grimm, his attacks just seem very fast and i cant seem to dodge in time for them as well as get damage in.||

[bright sorrel]

is there any attack u struggle with specifically

[calm jacinth]

the ||fireballs and the spike dash||

||not the balloon phase||

[slow yoke]

whats your charms?

[bright sorrel]

u mean the ||firebats or the fireballs from the uppercut?||

[calm jacinth]

this rn

[calm jacinth]

||firebats||

[bright sorrel]

||jump over the bats then dash towards grimm ||

[slow yoke]

lose the ||catcher||

[calm jacinth]

replace with what though

[fair lake]

Nice!

[bright sorrel]

if u like ||nail arts (they are very good for grimm) then u should use shaman, glory, and eater||

[slow yoke]

||health or long nail ||

[fair lake]

Then, wait until you come across another shop, if there are any others left.

[bright sorrel]

however if u dont then ||strength, quickslash, and whatever else u want for 2 notches is also peak (twister, catcher, grubsong + steady body, etc)||

[slow yoke]

||or get another notch and use strength||

[calm jacinth]

||cant get another notch, last one is behind grimm||

[slow yoke]

oh yea

[bright sorrel]

charms are useful but imo u should be more focused on improving at the fight

[dire lintel]

i agree proceeds to tank strats

[slow yoke]

mans requires pratice

[calm jacinth]

im aware just very quick paced and not finding many opportunities

[bright sorrel]

generally u can attack him during/right after he attacks

for example ||when he does fire bats, jump over the bats and dash to grimm. u can hit him a few times before he teleports||

[simple island]

But yeah, sometimes it can be odd for to fight some of the late game bosses
Some just require much slower play, and late game incentives playing ||fast, damage tanking, abusing quick slash and|| some bosses just say no

You need to get over that mental hurdle, accept that you need to play slower, think about what the boss is doing and die a couple dozen times

Anyway enough rambly tips im eeping

[slow yoke]

wait u can’t use ||grim child on grim in godhome?||

[calm jacinth]

||can't use it period on the boss||

[torn vector]

I just got to ||deep nest|| and I’m kind of stuck in the same spot I don’t know how to get out.

[slow yoke]

did u get ||map?||

[torn vector]

Yeah

I know where I am. I’m just like stuck in the same spot because I can’t figure out how to get up.

Nvm

[slim bloom]

Could I see map?

[torn vector]

I just found a ||hot spring|| after falling down a hole

[slow yoke]

yep

[slim bloom]

If you just want to leave, the easiest way out is ||up||

[slow yoke]

I mean once you get there theres no way back

[slim bloom]

There is a way back up I'm pretty sure

[slow yoke]

I think it needs ||lantern||

[slim bloom]

Ohh most likely

[torn vector]

I have the lantern

[slow yoke]

I forget if they connect

no they do connect so no yea ||no lantern||

[polar lodge]

Do ||Zote’s|| moves have randomness? I feel like he jumps closer or further randomly, especially when he drops from the ceiling. And his running attack seems to last shorter or longer randomly

[slow yoke]

yea

[polar lodge]

Ty

And dang it

[slow yoke]

its predictable randomness

[polar lodge]

Oh yeah?

[slow yoke]

theres a sound queue

[polar lodge]

I gotta learn that

Ty

[bright sorrel]

this channel requires that u use discords spoiler tagging feature for all content after dirtmouth (charms, bosses, locations, etc)

||example|| --> ||turns into this||

[polar lodge]

Whoops. Fixed

[bright sorrel]

[slow yoke]

I completely missed that

[rugged veldt]

Hello help

How are we today

[slow yoke]

tired

[spark yoke]

Just got back from school

Also pretty tired

[lone badger]

Heyo!

[spark yoke]

Wsg prumbel

[hearty fog]

hello friends

[spark yoke]

I mean plumber

[spark yoke]

Hi friend

We the best community guys

[lone badger]

Gud

[spark yoke]

Nice

Ok people arent chatty today

Anyone need help?

[torn vector]

I do kinda

I still can’t figure out how to get out

I csnt go up

I’m trying to find a way up but there isn’t one

[spark yoke]

Still stuck in ||kingdoms edge||?

[torn vector]

No?

[slow yoke]

go up and left

[spark yoke]

Oh that was someone else

What does queen need help with

[slow yoke]

he in ||deepnest||

[spark yoke]

Ohhh

[slow yoke]

just got to the ||pool||

[spark yoke]

Yeah keep going left

[torn vector]

Okay

[spark yoke]

Does he have ||lantern||?

[slow yoke]

yep

[spark yoke]

Because he could also get ||tram pass||

And then go right

Idk which is better

[torn vector]

Is there a boss down here

[spark yoke]

Yeah

One

But you dont have to visit him

[torn vector]

Is it this

Im afraid to get close

[spark yoke]

Nope

Thats just an annoying fricker

[slim bloom]

No thats just really strong

You got this

[spark yoke]

Just keep your distance and dont get greedy

[lean drum]

||is desolate dive in 1 hour 20 minutes on pace for 5 hour run||

[spark yoke]

Yeah i think so

[slim bloom]

Id say so

[spark yoke]

That should be good enough

||dreamers|| should take like 2 hours maybe

[lean drum]

keeping in mind that i suck at the game and missed 2 skips already

[spark yoke]

Dw

It took me a while to learn how to speedrun

And even now i can barely say im on the leaderboard

[torn vector]

I died

[spark yoke]

Nuu

Just keep trying

Or look for a way around it

[lean drum]

i missed the ||mantis village|| skip a good 5 times in a row

[spark yoke]

Its ok

I hate that one

Im not good at it either

But unless youre trying to pro speedrun, dont go for the skips that just save like 30 seconds

[lean drum]

path from here is ||peaks|| right

[spark yoke]

I guess so

I do any% though so idk

[jade sedge]

Sure

[spark yoke]

Wdym sure

[slow yoke]

||acid skip for monomon skips ismas||

[spark yoke]

Yeah

[lyric locust]

How many times does || Grim troupe get knocked out, I knocked him out twice. Tough boss ||

[spark yoke]

But you also need to do ||qga|| in that route

[spark yoke]

Like 3 i think

[lyric locust]

Damn so I was close af

[spark yoke]

Noo

[lyric locust]

He's tough but I think I can beat him sub 10 tries

[lean drum]

hell naw im not doing any of those fucking ||super precise crystal hearts||

[spark yoke]

You got this

[slim bloom]

I don't think ||the staggers happen at certain milestones||

[spark yoke]

Its frame perfect basically

Im still ass at it

[spark yoke]

I think they do

[slim bloom]

||Ive heard its dependent on hits, not damage||

[lyric locust]

Eh idk

[lean drum]

||a better indication of HP is those puffs. He does one every 1/4th damage||

[spark yoke]

Because the last one always happens one hit before death

[lean drum]

only ||collector|| does that

[spark yoke]

Yeah

[lyric locust]

Oh he did that three times I think

[slim bloom]

||An indication of health is the balloon attack which he does at 75, 50, and 25%||

[spark yoke]

Thought ||grimm did too||

Maybe im just slow

[lyric locust]

That move literally changes the music subtly if u notice, it gets || like drums in the bg ||

[spark yoke]

Interesting

[slim bloom]

Yeah it's a really cool thing

And the audience claps and stuff

[lean drum]

i love that when you kill him the music goes like BUMM BUMM BUMM BUMM BUMM

[lyric locust]

I beat him

It was like, my 6th try

Not that hard because || he doesn't have phases ||

|| also that pufferfish attack only happened 3 times and on the 4th he stops ||

[spark yoke]

Nice

[lyric locust]

What to do after beating him

[spark yoke]

||banish the troupe||

[lyric locust]

How

[spark yoke]

Or collect the rest of the ||flames||

Just collect ||flames||

And you’ll get the choice to ||banish|| or not

[lyric locust]

Ok

Idk when I will but sure

[spark yoke]

Ok

||banishing|| is better but its less fun

Your choice

If you want a challenge ||dont banish||

[lyric locust]

Ok bet

I play this for the || bosses ||

[lone badger]

Oh goody

[sleek rapids]

The boss you have coming is considered the second hardest boss so be prepared

[smoky monolith]

||I cant figure out how to deal with the soul daggers or void tendrils attack from the pure vessel, can anyone help me?||

ive been challenging him nonstop for at least 2 hours

[bright sorrel]

this channel requires that u use discords spoiler tagging feature for all content after dirtmouth (charms, bosses, locations, etc)

||example|| --> ||turns into this||

[bright sorrel]

||dash through the daggers (dont jump, just dash through them.

for void tendrills, jump over them, dash towards pure vessel, then use wings if needed||

[sleek rapids]

||dash through his daggers and for void tendrils, jump and pogo on pure vessel||

[smoky monolith]

||its really hard to react to the tendrils cause he almost always only uses them once during a battle and thats usually the end of the fight||

[bright sorrel]

yes the attack is added to their arsenal once they have 33% hp

[lone badger]

They're indicators

Of health remaining

[sleek rapids]

Well if you can’t react fast enough ||honestly I just had to let them hit me, if you heal during his focus attack you should be able to withstand it but I still recommend dodging||

[bright sorrel]

u can see they will ||lean back, and their stomach will have little tendrills before they actually expand across the arena||

[lone badger]

||66% and does it once again at 33% percent right?||

[bright sorrel]

it can use the attack an infinite number of times

[lone badger]

Oh, for some reason I rember those indicators

[bright sorrel]

it gets added to their arsenal ||at 33% and focus gets added at 66%||

[smoky monolith]

||if I dash through the daggers I dont have enough time for my shade dash to recharge before his next attack...||

[lone badger]

O, that's what it was

[bright sorrel]

u shouldnt be using it for much else

[sleek rapids]

||parry his nail swings||

[lone badger]

Then use it just for ||daggers and jump over everything else if you can||

[lyric locust]

Lol || Zote is the hardest boss for me do far. Lol I died to him like 8 times with 8 masks. Grim troupe was hard as well, probably second hardest I've faced. ||

[lone badger]

Oh boi

[bright sorrel]

||pogo the lunge and triple slash, dash/walk out of the way of the pillars, dash through the swords, etc||

[lone badger]

Ye

[smoky monolith]

I cant get any jump timings right and I end up getting hit every time

how can I fix that?

[bright sorrel]

practice

[lyric locust]

Wait did anyone else find || zote to be a genuinely hard boss ||

[smoky monolith]

cause my goto is just to dash through everything

[lone badger]

Kinda

[slim bloom]

I did

[lone badger]

Doesn't recharge quick enough

[lone badger]

Also I believe this needs tags

[sleek rapids]

I used to do that, but eventually after a bunch of deaths ||trying to parry the nail swings, it gets easy||

[bright sorrel]

it actually does ||charge quick enough|| but it can require finesse

[lone badger]

That true

[smoky monolith]

JST BEAT HIM

[lone badger]

Gud job!

[smoky monolith]

not gonna be reliable enough to be able to do it consistently though, so back to practicing

[lone badger]

Well just once is gud

[smoky monolith]

not for me

I wanna beat ||all the pantheons||

[lone badger]

No, I mean progress

[bright sorrel]

practice ||pogoing the lunge and triple slash instead of dashing through. only dash through the triple slash if it starts close to u ||

[smoky monolith]

ah yeah

[lone badger]

Ye

[smoky monolith]

thats true, I did just get 112% just now

[bright sorrel]

feeling kinda scream_cat rn

[lone badger]

Indeed

[sleek rapids]

Though you don’t need to get it too consistent, || I only beat him twice in practice and still managed to beat him in the pantheon||

[smoky monolith]

the reason I always dash through everything is because I have ||sharp shadow||

I love that charm to death

[bright sorrel]

[lyric locust]

I'm like 90% now dunno what else to do in this game

I'm avoiding || white palace ||

[sleek rapids]

SAME ||I used that charm till mid pantheon 4 and then I switched it out with more useful charms||

[lone badger]

What else ya wanna do?

[lyric locust]

Get || 112% ||

[smoky monolith]

the only time I didnt love it was during the ||flower quest, where it dashed me too far into thorns right at the end of the journey||

[lyric locust]

I wanna beat this game

And look back at it

[lone badger]

Well ya gonna have ta do ||white palace eventually||

[lyric locust]

Okay any || charms you recommened? I have 9 notches ||

[lone badger]

||hiveblood||

That's it

[lyric locust]

Nothing else?

[lone badger]

And anything else you want, but that's the main one

[lyric locust]

Ok got it I got that one

[bright sorrel]

if u wanna ||always be able to dash through the triple slash, dash away from PV and briefly walk away while u wait for it to charge ||

[sleek rapids]

Yeah the healing is insanely overpowered in the ||white palace, ||use ||nail length charms along with that||

[lone badger]

Mayhaps some ||health charms||

Ye

[lyric locust]

Ok any tips for the || white palace ||

Is there a || final boss ||

[sleek rapids]

Nope

Just the parkour

[lyric locust]

Brooooo I hate jt

Tag?

Tag || park our ||

[sleek rapids]

That’s different

[smoky monolith]

oh its not an issue with failing to dash through, its just the timing of the recharge

[bright sorrel]

yea

thats what i was describing

by ||dashing away then walking away from the triple slash u can stall enough time for shade cloak to be back before the attack is finished ||

its probably harder than just pogoing however u can try it

[lyric locust]

Wtf is|| pogoing ||

[sleek rapids]

||down slash||

[smoky monolith]

jumping and attacking down on an enemy

[lyric locust]

Oh

[smoky monolith]

I dont think thats past dirtmouth

[lyric locust]

I do that all the time

[sleek rapids]

Right, just in case though

[bright sorrel]

downslash does not need tags however ||downslashing spikes does||

[smoky monolith]

huh? you can ||downslash spikes|| even in kings pass

why would that need it

[bright sorrel]

it spoils several puzzle solutions

so it needs tags

[sleek rapids]

Yeah for a certain item

Or is that spoilers

[torn vector]

You lied to me.

[bright sorrel]

it spoils the ||way to fury, getting a grub, and mawlek||

[torn vector]

You said I don’t have to kill any of them

But I have to kill this one to get to the next area

[lone badger]

Kill wha?

[bright sorrel]

u dont need to no

[torn vector]

If I don’t kill it, I’m stuck here

[bright sorrel]

they all can be jumped over or lured to a position u can jump over them

[torn vector]

The ceiling is too low

I can’t jump over it

[bright sorrel]

read the last bit

[lone badger]

What are ya talkin' 'bout?

[torn vector]

I did

[bright sorrel]

||stalking devouts||

[lone badger]

Oh ok

[slim bloom]

||Stalking devout||

[bright sorrel]

so u concede that it was a lie

[slim bloom]

🐌 again

[lone badger]

Yes

[sleek rapids]

What r those again

[sleek rapids]

NO I HATE THEM

[torn vector]

How am I supposed to get past this without killing it

[lyric locust]

Loool

Fr

[torn vector]

It won’t go over the edge so I can’t jump over it

[lyric locust]

I usually just jump over it

[sleek rapids]

||4 projectiles||

Nvm

[slim bloom]

Wait are you in the ||beasts den?||

[bright sorrel]

u can lure it to the side however it is tricky

[torn vector]

That’s what I’ve been doing and it won’t go over the edge

[bright sorrel]

u should kill them tho

[bright sorrel]

well yea it isnt rly recommend

[torn vector]

I finally killed it

[sleek rapids]

||stand in front of them, wait for them to open, slash, and run, repeat||

[torn vector]

That’s exactly what I was doing

It keeps slashing at me, but it won’t go over the edge

[sleek rapids]

Idk if that’s possible

[bright sorrel]

it isnt supposed to go over the edge. it only happens because the game is poorly coded

so doing it is tricky

like i said it is not advised

[smoky monolith]

||it pauses for a moment right after opening the claws, thats when you should slash it||

[lyric locust]

Why would you kill it, I remember just ignoring it

[torn vector]

You told me I didn’t have to kill it to get past, but it was the only way

[torn vector]

That’s how I killed it I know

[bright sorrel]

yea u dont have to kill them

[torn vector]

I had to kill this one

[lyric locust]

@torn vector || I would lure it to the edge and up slash, when I NEEDED to kill them ||

[bright sorrel]

u can try to play around with it for a bit and jump over it

[sleek rapids]

If you want the easiest way though, ||do 4 fireballs||

[smoky monolith]

I mean you might be able to use I-frames to just bruteforce it

[torn vector]

It’s like ||dashing|| into a wall. I already tried that.

[lyric locust]

I already told you killer

[sleek rapids]

Yeah basically not possible

[lyric locust]

Its not that hard just have to be careful

[torn vector]

I already killed it

[lyric locust]

|| Okay but that one is the start of many more to come ||

O shit is that a spoiler

[bright sorrel]

not rly

theyve seen others at this point

[sleek rapids]

Yeah some of them guard things you’ll want

[torn vector]

You lied to me cheesecake

[bright sorrel]

again, i didnt

[torn vector]

Yuh huh

[bright sorrel]

u should read what i said

[torn vector]

I did

[lyric locust]

People still say "Yuh huh" thought that died like 3 months ago

[true finch]

Nuh uh

[sleek rapids]

Nuh uh shall never die though

[bright sorrel]

so then ur intentionally ignoring what i said

[torn vector]

I’m not ignoring it

I couldn’t get it into a spot where I could jump over

[bright sorrel]

ive reiterated that it is possible not practical

[lone badger]

True

[bright sorrel]

hence why i said its tricky to do

[torn vector]

But like I literally can’t because of the position it’s in

[lyric locust]

Quit yapping and get back to || killing those beasts ||

[sleek rapids]

Ngl ||I think hollow knight is getting much more boring now because I’m stuck trying to beat||(only read the next tag if you’re sure at the end of the game)||pantheon 5||

[bright sorrel]

nonsenf jumpscare

[thick wing]

s

[shut sparrow]

yeah ||p5|| is kind of too long to be fun imo

[lyric locust]

When silksong btw?

[thick wing]

When we reach 1

[lyric locust]

1 what

[shut sparrow]

oh man

[sleek rapids]

Hopefully by the end of this year?

[torn vector]

Whiffen your lifetime

[thick wing]

1

[torn vector]

Within

[lyric locust]

I just got into the game and I feel bad for those who been waiting from 2017

[lone badger]

Damn

[true finch]

||p5 is just a late game thing to grind if you're really bothered||

[thick wing]

Time is a valuable thing, watch it fly by as the pendulum swings

[smoky monolith]

wow ||nkg really is hard||

[lone badger]

Me personally I don't mind it

[sleek rapids]

I am late game tho ||112% done everything else and beat steel soul, I don’t see anything else to do||

[lone badger]

Do you have the other achievements?

[lyric locust]

wait how do I play || steel soul I got it but dunno how to start doing it ||

[true finch]

Are you bothered though

[sleek rapids]

||speedrun under 5 hours||

[lone badger]

Oh gross

[thick wing]

Just start a new save

[lyric locust]

Oh ok

[sleek rapids]

Yeah I really want something to pla- I HAVE CELESTE HOW DID I FORGET

[thick wing]

Seriously can you not do anything by yourself

[lone badger]

peak

[torn vector]

I honestly can’t believe how long I’ve spent playing this already

[lyric locust]

I can get with your mom by myself

[torn vector]

[true finch]

Yes

[thick wing]

Funniest joke in #hk-meme

[lyric locust]

Thanks

[sleek rapids]

Would make a response but last time I did I apparently broke the NSFW rule

[lyric locust]

Lol?

[sleek rapids]

Don’t know how but uhh end of discussion

[thick wing]

I forget how cringe this channel is sometimes

[lone badger]

Damn

[sleek rapids]

True

[thick wing]

Not just mentally, but like you can start feeling the physical effects of it

[lone badger]

I don't see it much

[lyric locust]

Go outside then lol

[torn nymph]

||hey radiance! i'd love getting good rng! hey radiance! I'd love good rng!||

[lone badger]

Lol

[astral bobcat]

Just get good rng

[thick wing]

That cannot save one from the cringe unfortunately

[astral bobcat]

Not that deep

[smoky monolith]

||I have concluded that nkg is at least 3x harder than pure vessel||

how can I beat this guy

[lone badger]

Unfortunate

[sleek rapids]

Nah they are equal imo

[astral bobcat]

Bro it’s the other way around

[shut sparrow]

Anika would now tell you ||radiance|| doesn't have rng but now I have to do it

[lone badger]

Oof

[sleek rapids]

I beat him because I switched to a controller, I don’t know how

[lyric locust]

|| I would ask who nkg is but I'm afraid that's a spoiler ||

[lone badger]

Indeed

[sleek rapids]

You’ll see

Soon

[astral bobcat]

||nkg is Grimm but faster||

[lone badger]

Bruh

[astral bobcat]

Go off of that

[lyric locust]

Bruh

[smoky monolith]

his hitboxes are so huge

[thick wing]

You know sometimes I feel like we should use that "Don't Be Over-Reliant" clause in the rules

[sleek rapids]

What ||nkg|| stands for tho is a pretty cool name

[shut sparrow]

If they are afraid that's a spoiler maybe don't tell them

[smoky monolith]

and the |||double damage|| means I really just die in seconds

[shut sparrow]

spoiler tags

[astral bobcat]

||nightmare king Grimm ||

[sleek rapids]

Yeah that

[lone badger]

Bro

Why'd ya tell them?

[astral bobcat]

Them don’t get hit

Not that deep

[sleek rapids]

Shark pls don’t click these spoilers

[smoky monolith]

easy to say hard to do

[lone badger]

Indeed

[lyric locust]

Ok ig

[shut sparrow]

please spoiler tag this

[astral bobcat]

Bro I beat him 5 times on a daily basis okay not that hard

[torn vector]

I’m stuck again

[lone badger]

May be easy to you, but brutal to some

[shut sparrow]

that's not helpful

[lone badger]

Everyone's different

[thick wing]

I beat him ||5 times a day radiant||, skill issue

[lone badger]

Damn

[smoky monolith]

anyone reading this wont know what its referring to unless they're just ignoring spoilers anyway though

[torn nymph]

the ||attacks are in a random order tho? isn't that rng /gq||

[torn vector]

Where am I supposed to go from here?

[astral bobcat]

Touch grass

[lone badger]

Still, tags

[shut sparrow]

||double damage|| is a spoiler

[sleek rapids]

Idk if they know you can even take ||double damage in the game||

[smoky monolith]

man yall get really touchy about tags

[thick wing]

It's one of the most consistent bosses lol

[bright sorrel]

yes it is the purpose of the channel

[torn nymph]

just tag is you silly goose

[lone badger]

To ensure people don't get uneccesary spoilers or spoilers in general

[sleek rapids]

Yeah I agree I always ask for spoilers and get happy to know them but, I’m considered odd for that

[smoky monolith]

I mean, just damage?

[slim bloom]

||Theres a stag station in the top right of the village||

[lone badger]

||double|| many bosses don't have

[torn nymph]

there's no point in arguing just spoiler it or delete it and move on 👽

[shut sparrow]

they aren't. They always do attacks depending on your position and I think also various other factors. It's not entirely random

[torn nymph]

oh

[smoky monolith]

have you read back?

I already spoilered it like 3 mins ago

[bright sorrel]

ur position doesnt matter

[torn vector]

Nice but I don’t know how to leave the|| beasts den||

[torn nymph]

uh just walk around and kill stuff i think

[slim bloom]

Theres a path down to the left

[lyric locust]

Good luck buddy

You're stuck there forever

[bright sorrel]

||count how many times radiance teleportes and what their last attack was and u can basically always tell what they will do next||

[lone badger]

What if they do it ||multiple times? I've seen rad use beam burst like three times||

[bright sorrel]

for example ||they do a burst, 1 teleport (not delayed) the next attack is a burst||

[torn vector]

Thank you I found it

[lyric locust]

Yw

[bright sorrel]

they wont do it from the same position

[lone badger]

||I am talking about the "other" one so that may change it||

[slim bloom]

||Will the light pillar always come from the opposite side as you (from left if your on right side of stage) or am I just seeing patterns that arent there?||

[bright sorrel]

it can be on any side

[slim bloom]

Thanks

[lone badger]

||Had the light wall come three times in a row one time that dissipates about half way until the final one||

It was weird

[shut sparrow]

yes that's something that can happen

[lone badger]

Just interesting because they just kept ||teleporting around||

Not doin' much

[torn vector]

WHAT HAPPENED TO ||FORGOTTEN CROSSROADS||?!?

[lone badger]

||Got a case of covid||

[scenic egret]

they got some|| orange juice||

[lone badger]

Yep

[sleek rapids]

Um, it’s hell now

[lone badger]

[slim bloom]

It's ||colorful now||

Not a great color

[lone badger]

But smt

[slim bloom]

||Orange|| is eh

But something

[smoky monolith]

||are nail arts affected by mark of pride and longnail?||

[lone badger]

Sadly no

[sleek rapids]

Imagine if it worked with ||grubberflys elegy||

[lone badger]

Yez

[smoky monolith]

||will a boss's stagger be affected by heavy blow if I exclusively use nail arts?||

[lone badger]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[sleek rapids]

I don’t think so

[smoky monolith]

ill have to test that

[sleek rapids]

I believe those ||charms|| only affect ||regular nail slashes||

[shut sparrow]

It affects ||great slash so I don't see a reason for it not affecting the stagger count when using nart||

[torn vector]

Who is this and how do I get this thing?

[sleek rapids]

Now that we’re on the topic of ||nail arts||, does ||spamming attack in the middle of cyclone slash really make it better?||

[lone badger]

||Bretta, and shes useful when or if you save a very swuave a d segsy man||

[shut sparrow]

You don't get it. The glowing just means ||that there is something to read there||

[sleek rapids]

Screw her

[smoky monolith]

||yes, spamming attack in the middle of cyclong slash extends its duration for a long time||

[lone badger]

Yes, makes it ||last longer in turn giving more attacks||

[torn vector]

What’s up with the weird dialogue about the bed?

[sleek rapids]

Wow I only found that out today

[shut sparrow]

yes it doubles the damage

[smoky monolith]

I found it out yesterday

[lone badger]

Uhhhhh

[sleek rapids]

She’s a simp

[lone badger]

Ye

[smoky monolith]

||man I hate the scurry that nkg always seems to do||

[lone badger]

||The fake out thingamajig?||

[sleek rapids]

What a trickster

[smoky monolith]

||he keeps activating it every single attack it seems||

[sleek rapids]

That always made me die

[lone badger]

Damn

[smoky monolith]

always

anyone wanna watch me do attempts in stream?

[lone badger]

If I weren't busy

[smoky monolith]

to spot any problems with my gameplay

[bright sorrel]

u can send videos if u want

[smoky monolith]

ill just be live for now

[scenic egret]

staggers are based off of just hits

[lone badger]

Damn, really?

[scenic egret]

so a ||nail art would do the same as a normal nail||

[smoky monolith]

oh

[sleek rapids]

||how much hits is cyclone slash equal to again||

[scenic egret]

also, ||certain charms like spore shroom dont count towards the stagger||

[scenic egret]

3-6

[lone badger]

||6, with 1.25% each iirc||

[scenic egret]

depends on how much you hold attack/up/down during the ||nail art||

[lone badger]

||If you press the attack button more||

[sleek rapids]

so it can be charged even after, interesting

or that

[lone badger]

||Normal it only hits 3 times, but if you spam attack button after, it lasts longer to go to 6 hits||

[scenic egret]

||3-6, 1.25x nail damage||

just holding works

no spam needed

[lone badger]

O

[torn vector]

||Grub father|| just gave me 1200 Geo

What do you guys recommend I do or get next?

[sleek rapids]

More ||grubs|| maybe

Idk he was just on that topic

Or a ||dreamer||

[lone badger]

Depends, what you have to do?

[torn vector]

I’m not sure

[lone badger]

Then just explore

[sleek rapids]

Did you get all the ||dreamers?||

[torn vector]

No

Is there anything I should do before them?

[sleek rapids]

Explore

Get every ||upgrade|| you can access

[torn vector]

I just got ||pale ore||

[sleek rapids]

||nailsmith, hurry over to him||

[torn vector]

Okay

I just got to him

I don’t have enough Geo

[lone badger]

Monies

[sleek rapids]

Oh, keep exploring in that case you’ll get enough soon

[slow yoke]

3 more to go

[lone badger]

Gl on ||mothman||

[torn vector]

I’m gonna go sell stuff for that one guy

[sleek rapids]

||radiant radiance|| sounds kind of catchy

[slow yoke]

how kill

[sleek rapids]

Forgot abt him somehow

[lone badger]

Ya don't

That's the funny thing

[sleek rapids]

||nailarts||

[manic hazel]

I love yall

[bright sorrel]

what

[torn vector]

He’s not even there

[slow yoke]

❤️

[lone badger]

[slow yoke]

how does me kill ||moth man mark on rad?||

[scenic egret]

ill just link to my previous wall because im too lazy

#hk-help message

[slow yoke]

👍

[bright sorrel]

||stay on the right wall, use dash slash in the first phase when markoth gets by u. save ur soul.

in the 2nd phase, stay on the right wall but switch to using shade soul. try to double hit markoth (essentially shoot markoth while he is far away and not directly touching a wall)||

[scenic egret]

almost a 🐌

[manic hazel]

Why did I have to be born?

Oh sorry

[slow yoke]

…

[manic hazel]

Didnt mean to change the topic or anything

Continue

[slow yoke]

not this again

[bright sorrel]

linking a 3 day old wall does not let u snail

[manic hazel]

Sorry

SORRY

XDDDD

Why did yall stop

:(

[lone badger]

Whar?

[scenic egret]

there was not much to talk about, eben without you

[manic hazel]

I mean, probably

I feel like shit today

Well physically I mean

Mentally I am in a surprisingly pretty good shape

[torn vector]

I just got to him and I have the money now

[manic hazel]

Cool

[marble lily]

Hello, sorry to interrupt something important, but I was looking for help.

[lone badger]

Noice

[manic hazel]

I mean

This is literally the channel for it

[lone badger]

Nah, you're good

[manic hazel]

We werent talking about anything important anyways

Just got sidetracked by my mental health

What do you want help with?

[marble lily]

It's about the third pantheon in the room of the gods, I don't know what boss I'm missing, leave me a screenshot

[scenic egret]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (Charms, bosses, locations, etc.) to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[lone badger]

Oh, something about this channel is it needs spoilers

[marble lily]

oh ok

[lone badger]

Yeah that

[scenic egret]

everything past dirtmouth is considered a spoiler and must be spoiler tagged

[marble lily]

sorry

[scenic egret]

also, please send a spoiler tagged image of the ||wheel that shows up||

if you dont know how to spoiler tag an image

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[manic hazel]

Nah dont be sorry

Its okay

We understand

It happens to everyone

Can you send the screenshot of ||the bosses you have and need in p3?||

But add a spoiler of course

Also you can make any part of the text you want a spoiler like ||this||

[scenic egret]

🐌 i believe

[manic hazel]

It didnt work for me cuz I used the backslash intentionally

But normally ||it does||

[scenic egret]

we have this bit of a thing in #hk-help where if you give a slow response you are a 🐌

[lone badger]

Indeed

[manic hazel]

Im bored

Anyone needs help with anything?

Please 💀

[lone badger]

There's other channels

[torn vector]

Should I drop all my Geo in the fountain?

[lone badger]

Depends, how much ya got?

[torn vector]

1654

Should I

[lone badger]

Nah

[torn vector]

I just went down a hole that there’s absolutely no way out of that I can see

[slow yoke]

yes!

300% yes

gives good loot

gooderest loot

[lone badger]

They don't have enough

[slow yoke]

yes they do

[slow yoke]

||shush||

[shut sparrow]

please don't troll people come here for serious help

[lone badger]

Yep

I don't think they want to waste their money when they won't even get anything

[torn vector]

How do I get to the ||Palace grounds||?

[slow yoke]

||verticle movement||

theres more stuff to the left

[torn vector]

I can’t jump high enough

[torn vector]

I already went that way

[slow yoke]

with the bench?

[torn vector]

Yes

[slow yoke]

well go more that way

[torn vector]

I know I went across