hk-help

[lone badger]

Makes sense

[gusty magnet]

all according to keikaku*

*translators note, keikaku means plan

[lone badger]

Indeed

[thick wing]

s

[gusty magnet]

s

[lyric locust]

W community man

W game = w community

[gusty magnet]

straight fax

[lone badger]

Ye

[thick wing]

What's a fun fact I have...

Oh yeah ||Xero's gravestone was changed||

[lone badger]

How come?

[gusty magnet]

when and from what to what

[thick wing]

It was originally ||"Here lies a traitor", but was changed to "Cursed are those who turn against the king"||

[lone badger]

How's that offensive or anything?

[thick wing]

wdym offensive

[gusty magnet]

i'd guess it's to differentiate from ||traitor lord||

[lone badger]

That's why most things are changed

[thick wing]

I don't think so

I think it's because it sounds silly

[lone badger]

Fair

[thick wing]

||Xero says: "Do not call me a traitor. Simply call me a fool."||

[gusty magnet]

oh true why ||would a traitor get their own gravestone and inscription||

[thick wing]

||Read the gravestone after fight: "Here lies a traitor"||

[lone badger]

I find it interesting how ||dream warrior fights don't realize they died until after you clap them||

[rose mango]

Hi, do I need to ||deliver the delicate flower to the godseeker to get the achievement Embrace The Void or by just completing the P5 I get the achievement?||

[soft widget]

||Just by completing P5 is enough, however if u also deliver the delicate flower you get an extra scene to the ending||

[rose mango]

Ok, thanks

[scarlet hull]

[hot dove]

||ive done crystal peaks and gotten cdash ive also done fungal and city what do i do now do i go to ancient basin or royal waterways?||

||or even fog canyon||

[proper frost]

this channel requires that u use discords spoiler tagging feature for all content after dirtmouth (charms, bosses, locations, etc)

||example|| --> ||turns into this||

[thick wing]

I forgot

[hot dove]

||desolate dive||

[rigid fractal]

Go anywhere u want. ||Doesnt matter. If u can reach that place, go explore ||

[hot dove]

||ok thanks||

[thick wing]

What does the ||soul master give you ||

[rigid fractal]

He said|| ddive||

[proper frost]

A better answer would have been ||a useful spell||

But yeah

[rigid fractal]

I thought mug asked staind what he got

But eh

[proper frost]

Saying directly isn't the best thing to do

[trail jungle]

||you get desolated dive||

[proper frost]

🐌

[thick wing]

ok

[thick wing]

Can i get the game from a $10 steam gift card

[white lance]

Charms for the ||Eternal Ordeal?||

[thick wing]

It costs $15

So if it goes on sale then yes

[white lance]

||What does the Eternal Ordeal give?||

[thick wing]

||A new background||

[white lance]

How many ||Zotes i need?||

[undone flower]

||57||

[rigid fractal]

||57||

So snell

[white lance]

tf you mean ||57||

[thick wing]

You need to kill ||57||

[white lance]

I cant do it

[thick wing]

Tubad

[meager thistle]

Try harder

[low tundra]

how to beat ||watcher knights frfrfrfr||

[meager thistle]

||right before you enter the arena, keep going upward. You may have to break a wall or a ceiling along the way. It leads to something that helps immensely with the fight||

[rigid fractal]

What ||charms u hav and inventory||

[low tundra]

guys I'm sorry

while waiting for the replies I beat them

so sorry

and I know about the chandelier

[rigid fractal]

Ayy that's fine. Congratulations

[low tundra]

thanks

[vivid fog]

https://tenor.com/view/chandelier-women-swinging-gif-7573659

[rugged veldt]

🔥

Hello help

How we doing

[thick wing]

Not bad

Not bad at all

[rugged veldt]

Not 2 mil still?

[thick wing]

50k to go man

won't go that quick

[rugged veldt]

Eh

1k per day so by summer's end surely

If Silksong comes out even earlier

[thick wing]

Oh it's much quicker than that

1.5k-2k, a few 3ks per week

I'd say we'll reach it by the end of May

[meager thistle]

I'll just spam

[thick wing]

?tag whatsaspoiler

[languid radish]

No tag whatsaspoiler found.

[proper frost]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (Charms, bosses, locations, etc.) to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[thick wing]

I see they got rid of whatsaspoiler then

Makes sense

[white lance]

||best charms for the Eternal Ordeal?||

I am suffering.

[hardy grove]

do you have all of the ||charms?||

[hardy grove]

I'll say ||Strength and Spell Twister||
Since you will depend on your nail most of the time and ||ddark for safety||

[shut sparrow]

Use ||strength, mark of pride, qfocus and soul catcher||

[white lance]

ok i'll try

[white lance]

I literally wrote 112 on the nickname

[shut sparrow]

it was more about that file methinks

[proper frost]

hi nonsenf

[shut sparrow]

Roma

Did you have a good sleep?

[proper frost]

how was your morning?

lol kinda my question

yep doing decent today

[shut sparrow]

yes you are such a snail

Uhm mine was... fine I guess

I'm tired

And I have my exam tomorrow

[low timber]

Nuh un

[proper frost]

ohh man

[shut sparrow]

I wonder what Dyno is gonna respond to this

[proper frost]

ok but go to sleep early tonight please

[shut sparrow]

uh

[proper frost]

you know you need this

[shut sparrow]

but studying

[proper frost]

mann

[alpine comet]

sleep overated

[proper frost]

you can sacrifice a bit,but trust me
it's better to be rested and not fall asleep on exams than learn a tiny bit

[low timber]

I have sba testing next week

[shut sparrow]

yes you're right

[low timber]

I had it last week to

[shut sparrow]

wtf good luck

[proper frost]

true good luck child

[low timber]

Thank

[proper frost]

you too nonsenf

[low timber]

What does that mean

The nonsenf

[shut sparrow]

me

[proper frost]

lol

[stiff prism]

do i need to beat ||broken bessel ||to progress?

[thick wing]

Yeah you do

[shut sparrow]

there are most likely multiple options to progress for you right now but you will have to do it eventually yes

[thick wing]

You need to beat him to beat the game, so like you will need to do it.

[stiff prism]

eough

also the ||simple key|| opens up the thing in the ||city ||right?

[thick wing]

Correct

But I have to ask, what "thing"

[lone badger]

||pleasure house most likely||

[stiff prism]

||a pink door||

[thick wing]

That thing

Yeah

[lone badger]

||pleasure house||

[thick wing]

I doubt that helps much

[lone badger]

||unless they have debt to collect||

[shut sparrow]

Telling them the name of the place without them having been there yet doesn't help much

[lone badger]

Well they were asking about needing a ||key for a pink door in city||

[shut sparrow]

yes

How does telling them the ||name of the area that it unlocks help?||

[lone badger]

So they can know what it is, but I can understand your point

Sorry if I confused them

[stiff prism]

i could have, you know, just gone there and seen it for myself

[lone badger]

Sowwies

[stiff prism]

so what's there to do inside? listen to some music?

[thick wing]

There's ||a relic and a hot spring||

[bright sorrel]

:great_s:

[thick wing]

s

[shut sparrow]

this channel requires that you use discords spoiler tagging feature for all content after dirtmouth (charms, bosses, locations, etc)

||example|| --> ||turns into this||

[inner robin]

spoiler tags please!

dang it

Nonsenf you're so fast

[shut sparrow]

heh

[feral steeple]

SORRY

i didnt know

[shut sparrow]

It's alright you can send it again with spoiler tags

surely ecluck will help you

[feral steeple]

does anyone have any advice on ||absorad|| at the end of ||p5||

[inner robin]

anything in specific you're struggling with?

[feral steeple]

just living

[inner robin]

mm

[warm pilot]

Is it still possible to fight the ||brooding mawlek|| while having the ||forgotten crossroads infected?||

[inner robin]

yeah

[feral steeple]

ys

[warm pilot]

kinda forgot about him in early game

[warm pilot]

where is he can find him

[feral steeple]

||brooding mawlek|| is on the ||left of crossroads||

[inner robin]

m

[ruby shuttle]

||big room with all the gruzzers||

[hardy grove]

sorry.

[inner robin]

ok well- ||each individual attack does have a fairly consistant way to dodge, the main challange is reacting in time while still being able to attack. I'm assuming you have all charms/spells because you've reached absrad, so uh stop me if you don't somehow||

||I'd suggest trying to speficaly learn how to dodge each attack individualy so you can build up the muscle memory||

||you can double hit absrad with shadesoul+shaman fairly easily when casting at the widest part of her face, and abyss shriek is also good for damage during her downtimes for the face spikes and face beam attacks, and for the face beam attack specifcaly after the third barrage you will almost always have a good healing opportunity||

||ddark is good for dodging attacks when you get into a tough spot because it gives invinsibility frames, and you can also use it to temporarily remove the floor spikes in phase 2||

[bright sorrel]

probably best to know the telegraphs for the attacks.

||its face lights up when its doing a burst attack

sword wall and beam wall can be heard as they spawn

u can see where the orbs will spawn, and radiance will sorta raise its wings.

u can use dive or shade cloak to destroy the spike floor

if u want to heal, do it on the last wave of any attack (i.e heal on the last beam burst, last sword burst, etc)

try to dash through the wall attacks before they reach the middle. this ensures u wont have to deal with attacks overlapping.

as for how to dodge attacks:

• burst attacks: dodge the first attack then stand where the previous one was

• orbs: dash in the direction the orb is spawning. the orb will go over u can get destroyed

• walls: just dash through them

• sword rain: stand in the large gaps between the swords||

[hard zodiac]

Wtf #hk-walls

[bright sorrel]

nuhuh

[inner robin]

it's hard to not have at least a partail wall for "help with insert late game boss I'm struggling with everything"

[feral steeple]

wait what

i had no idea u cld do that

[hard zodiac]

Now you do

Now go beat her ass

[feral steeple]

lmfao

im on ||hornet sentinel|| atm

wish me luck

[inner robin]

Mhm! it's not for long, ||and the spikes always come back on the oposite side of the arena||

if you die ||practice in hall of gods a lot more||

[vast gorge]

Does the ||Soul Warrior|| usually do this?

[feral steeple]

hes sleepy

give him some rest

[warm pilot]

he's taking the day off

[vast gorge]

Lmao

[formal rock]

I don't really use ||nail art|| are they worth using?

[ruby shuttle]

tired boi

[inner robin]

useful glitch

[vast gorge]

Idk how I did it 😭

[warm pilot]

yes extremely useful for flying enemies like the ||primal aspids||

[feral steeple]

some bosses yes some bosses no

[inner robin]

they're annoying to activate on switch (I'd know) but yes they are very useful

[warm pilot]

there's a charm for that

[tropic seal]

are you on console?

[bright sorrel]

in some instances

u should try to use them tho

[feral steeple]

on ||bosses like no eyes|| they are good for ||burst dmg|| but on bosses like ||nkg and pure vessel|| then i wouldnt recommend them because they move too quick

[inner robin]

they take getting used to before they're actualy super useful

[bright sorrel]

no ||nail arts on nkg|| is a crazy take

[feral steeple]

||quick slash|| for the win

[inner robin]

||narts are good on nkg I think||

[lean drum]

||nkg is so easy that beating it nartless isnt that big an issue unless doing ab||

[feral steeple]

i used to struggle with it so much

mainly the ||bat attack|| because i had it locked in my head to ||dash over them||

[inner robin]

||the bat attack is one of the ones where charging a nart works very well Imo||

[feral steeple]

to be fair

[ruby shuttle]

||dash slash||

[feral steeple]

i retract statement

[lean drum]

That attack is the one that fucks with your muscle memory when going from ||nkg to grimm and from grimm to nkg||

[feral steeple]

||narts on nkg gud||

[lean drum]

I hate that one

Ive never used it

[feral steeple]

||yuh most of the boss fight is just faster grimm but that attack is reworked||

[ruby shuttle]

best is ||cyclone||

[lean drum]

Best is ||gslash||

[lone badger]

Wait, y'all use ||narts for nkg?||

[lean drum]

I dont

[lone badger]

Neither do I

[ruby shuttle]

no

[vast gorge]

Yeah why

[tropic seal]

same glitch happened to me, idk if it can be done on PC but i know that it is practically as same as ||dung defender's one, excepts he can still attack||

[inner robin]

what glitch? ||the soul warrior one?||

[lean drum]

I remember when i got ||dung defender|| stuck in the ground by doing some stagger black magic

[inner robin]

||the dung defender one is different I think- or at least the one where he gets stuck under the ground||

[lone badger]

He can do that?

Damn

[inner robin]

||yeah it's when you trigger his stager while hiting him with dive while he's already underground I think||

[bright sorrel]

it is different

[inner robin]

tags

[lean drum]

Yeah thats what i did

[inner robin]

Idk it's really just a 'better safe than sorry'

[bright sorrel]

its just ||SW getting stuck in his jumping back animation. it is not super common but it can happen||

[inner robin]

tagging stuff isn't that hard

[lone badger]

Ye

[formal rock]

which ||nail art|| does the most damage?

[lone badger]

||I believe either great slash, or cyclone, great slash does 2.5% more damage and I forgot the percentage for cyclone slash, but you can spam the attack button after to let it last longer and deal more damage||

[jade sedge]

||Great slash and dash slash both deal 2,5x nail damage. Cyclone deals 1,25x nail damage per hit and cant hit a max of 6 times so it can total to 7,5x nail damage||

[lone badger]

Probably ||cyclone then||

[topaz sparrow]

how do I win against ||third phase zote||, fuck this guy I fucking hate him with a passion

[lone badger]

||GPZ?||

[topaz sparrow]

ye

[lone badger]

And what do you mean ||third phase?||

[shut sparrow]

probably on the ||third fight||

[lone badger]

Oh

[shut sparrow]

||The strategy doesn't really change throughout the fights. What worked for the first fight should also work for the second and third if it wasn't just face tanking. It will just be more difficult. What attacks specifically do you struggle to avoid?||

[plush garden]

Your best bet is to just go crazy with the nail and remember to pogo and ||dd||

I just went in with that mindset when ||I fought him in hall of gods for the first time in radiant for fun and beat him||

@topaz sparrow Oh and for ||build I would go qs, ln, ss and str||

[shut sparrow]

oh man so many abbreviations

[shut sparrow]

this needs spoiler tags tho

||dd||

[plush garden]

You could also go for ||qs, ln, ss, and mop||

[plush garden]

Oh come on

[lone badger]

Acronyms need tags still

[plush garden]

I remember having a whole fight here about me tagging ||pop||

[lone badger]

Just tag to be safe

[plush garden]

Seems kinda silly to me but the guy contacted the mods to ban me

[lone badger]

Better safe than sorry

[plush garden]

Seems so

Oh also might as well ask whoever has done this, ||anyone got a nice build they used for rad abrad?||

[lone badger]

Looks like its time for my time to shine

[plush garden]

Only thing I have left to do in that dlc

[bright sorrel]

||strength, shaman, quick slash, steady body, twister|| iirc

[plush garden]

Holy crap I forgot ||strength exists!||

Be right back I need to do some editing

[bright sorrel]

_ _

[lone badger]

May I ask why ||steady body? Its just weird to me why you'd pick it||

Out of curiosity

[shut sparrow]

||no eater ||

[bright sorrel]

more control

[bright sorrel]

u can use that instead but ||twister is kinda better ||

[plush garden]

Why use that?

[lone badger]

Don't you ||jump to hit her though?||

[bright sorrel]

u shouldnt rly upslash no

[plush garden]

Not if you got full range

[shut sparrow]

imo it's better and costs the same ||if you overcharm but twister might be more efficient||

[lone badger]

Oh, ||side slash||

[bright sorrel]

it depends on how aggressive u are

||if u arent too aggressive then eater is better ||

[lone badger]

Well, if you wanna ||over charm it won't matter because you die in one hit||

[plush garden]

I usually prefer straight nail with ||str, qs, ln and mop||

[shut sparrow]

yes and that's why you should do it

[lone badger]

Ma man!

[shut sparrow]

||spells are really powerful tho and nail length does almost nothing for that fight||

[lone badger]

That fair

[bright sorrel]

iirc nonsenf almost has ||absrad WR|| ?!

[lone badger]

Oooooh

[plush garden]

Nah ||nail length can make good room for you to attack her with pogo and dodge attacks at the same time, more air time||

[shut sparrow]

Depends how you define almost I guess

[lone badger]

Does that rely on luck a bit or nah?

[bright sorrel]

entirely

[lone badger]

Damn

[bright sorrel]

every phase has tons of rng

[lone badger]

So you do agree that you can get unlucky

[bright sorrel]

in speedruns

[plush garden]

You can

[bright sorrel]

in a regular fight there is no rng

[lone badger]

[plush garden]

Nah there still is

[amber perch]

well there is rng

[bright sorrel]

do u have any examples

[amber perch]

but the outcome of the fight doesn't depend on it

[shut sparrow]

I guess you could say you can get unlucky with harder attack patterns than others but they are never impossible and also never close to being impossible

[amber perch]

ye

[lone badger]

I do agree with that, somewhat

[stiff prism]

so uhh beside the|| broken vessel ||what can i do? find the ||trees||?

[lone badger]

Depends, you can show us your inventory and map so we can see specifically what you could do

[plush garden]

Something like ||a very badly timed wall of light with shaws and you having no soul for dd||

[bright sorrel]

idk what ||shaws|| is

[plush garden]

The golden ones

[lone badger]

||balls?||

[bright sorrel]

[half venture]

||sharp pointy circles||

[plush garden]

You could say that too even though they got spikes

[amber perch]

it's when ||hornet || joins the fight clearly

[lone badger]

||Light orbs||

[bright sorrel]

idk what ur talking about

[half venture]

Very sharp and pointy

[lone badger]

Hmmmmmm, do ya want a ||better nail?||

[plush garden]

||she stands there still and summons a lot of them around the screen||

[lone badger]

The ||homing light orbs, ye||

[stiff prism]

of course i do

[bright sorrel]

that does not happen with a ||beam wall||

[lone badger]

Mabe after it reaches half the screen

[plush garden]

Oh it does

[jade sedge]

||Id say just explore the map, but if you know about broken vessel then might as well do that now||

[plush garden]

Not exactly when it happens but it does

[lone badger]

True

[lone badger]

Yeah

[stiff prism]

perhaps

[bright sorrel]

not rly at that point either and even if u wanted to say it does, that isnt rng thats u improperly dodging and bad positioning

[stiff prism]

mf at this rate i'm goign to deliver the rarefaction cell blindfolded before i finish this game

[bright sorrel]

a lot of the "bad rng" stems from not understanding the fight it seems

[lone badger]

||What I'd say for that is you were avoiding the floor spikes on the other side||

[stiff prism]

do i get circles if i || dreamnail her||

[lean drum]

Any rng in a fight is just you needing to git gud

[lone badger]

||one||

[bright sorrel]

try it

[lean drum]

You get 1.

[plush garden]

About time you get yourself ||a nice material to make your nail better, go to king's station and try to make your way down||

[jade sedge]

You cant really say "its not rng" as it is decided by rng. Yes all attack combinations can be dodged but that doesnt mean some arent harder than others

[shut sparrow]

that needs more spoiler tags

[lone badger]

True

[lone badger]

Ye

[lean drum]

Still, skissue

[jade sedge]

It'd be better to not say stuff like this here as its discouraging and unhelpful

[lone badger]

True

[bright sorrel]

my point is that the "bad combinations" are caused by you messing up

not even rly rng

[lone badger]

Probably best to drop this topic so it doesn't get heated

[bright sorrel]

if someone is trying to do the fight its useful information

[lone badger]

Mayhaps, but I don't think anyone is asking about it rn

In the future mayhaps

Idk

[shut sparrow]

You could say if you specifically struggle with an attack like ||sword rain and it's just more difficult for you than the other attacks, you would have bad rng if you get it 2 times in a row or so||

[lone badger]

Mayhaps

[meager thistle]

Some scenarios are more difficult than others. Getting those scenarios more often than easier ones is bad RNG. Easy.

[lone badger]

Ye

[meager thistle]

Oh nonsenf just said that

[lone badger]

I kinda wanna talk about some scenarios I had, but I don't wanna cause any arguments

Plus this is help

[bright sorrel]

not rly

[amber perch]

||pk||

[bright sorrel]

cat 🫵

[shut sparrow]

hm maybe I just got the definition of rng wrong

[lone badger]

Does that tags? Or is that not the acronym you were trying for?

[amber perch]

lol true

i was referencing the emote

[lone badger]

O

[shut sparrow]

there were lots of discussions about this iirc and ||because they are referring to an emote it does not but I'm unsure||

Doesn't hurt to tag it tho

[lone badger]

Ye, better safe than sorry

[amber perch]

yea idm tagging

[bright sorrel]

random number generation

[lone badger]

Basically luck

[shut sparrow]

yeah Ik that's what it stands for but that doesn't really help my brain

Hm actually the bosses aren't using rng to choose an attack tho right?

[bright sorrel]

depends on the boss

[lean drum]

All attacks are rng. Its just that all combinations are possible

[bright sorrel]

||radiance|| for example doesnt use rng

[amber perch]

a lot of the time they do

[stiff prism]

i just lost 300 dollars

[lean drum]

Thats not rng???

[bright sorrel]

no the attacks are predetermined in a sense

[shut sparrow]

mhm otherwise rng manip wouldn't work right

[lean drum]

Give 2700 more

[half venture]

Lose more money

[stiff prism]

aaaaaaaaaaa

[lean drum]

I.. i never knew this

[half venture]

Become poor

[meager thistle]

Give it more

[lean drum]

You get something for giving it 3k

[amber perch]

i mean you can say theres no rng because a tas can get the same attacks every time

but thats not very useful when talking about people playing

[bright sorrel]

[stiff prism]

i gathered but damn i got only 2k so far at all

[lone badger]

More

[lean drum]

You unlock a really good geo farming method later

[half venture]

||You get less than half of an item for your entire life savings||

[lone badger]

A small price to pay for salvation

[shut sparrow]

ya alright then I agree that there is no rng involved. Just luck because you might just get unlucky with a lot of attacks that you struggle with in a row

[bright sorrel]

that is the perfect time to practice iirc

[lone badger]

I wanna share my experiences, but I don't wanna start an argument

[shut sparrow]

yes I'm not saying it's unfair

[stiff prism]

it's half of a ||mask||?

[lone badger]

No

[lean drum]

I struggle with ||orbs|| in ||absrad||. Thats why last phase to me is torture

[half venture]

Its a much worse deal than that

[lone badger]

They ||boomerang||

[lean drum]

Its less than half of not a ||mask||

[bright sorrel]

||all u have to do is jump away from the orb and use wings||

[thorny token]

No

[lean drum]

Yeah but i panic

[lone badger]

Fair

[meager thistle]

Then don't lmao

[lean drum]

Best advice ever. Gonna go first try ||anyrad|| bc of this amazing advice

[half venture]

Never assume you are going to get your money’s worth when the ||pale king|| is involved

[shut sparrow]

You really should worry less about arguments imo. If the argument turns into something bad or gets too big for this channel then we'll just stop. That being said right now it would probably be better moving to another channel if you wanna talk about it

[lone badger]

Okays

[lone badger]

He greedy and cheap

[amber perch]

behold, rng

[lean drum]

||Pale king ||spending his entire life savings on ||moving saws|| be like

[lone badger]

Spent it all on ||buzzshaws||

[lean drum]

[lone badger]

I don't get it

[amber perch]

the function used to choose which attack ||absrad|| does, and the chances of each attack

[lone badger]

Ah, so ||orbs, nail fan and eye beams are most common?||

[thorny token]

dies of complex mathematics (it's harder than 2+2)

[amber perch]

yea kinda

[bright sorrel]

its pretty simple. the boss even telegraphs the probability for u in the fight

[amber perch]

theres also a number of times each attack can happen in a row which affects probability

[lone badger]

Huh?

[stiff prism]

suggestions for ||Bronek vessel||?

[bright sorrel]

what do u have

[bright sorrel]

that is probably ur best option

[analog roost]

That’ll work

[bright sorrel]

u should try to focus on ||using spells ||

[stiff prism]

hard to do if i keep getting hit

[lone badger]

Specially ||fireball||

[bright sorrel]

the fight plays kinda similar to ||hornet ||

[stiff prism]

i noticed
i sucked at that one too

[bright sorrel]

keep some distance from them so u can watch what theyre doing, dodge, attack, then back up

[lone badger]

Then I feel its the boss itself you struggle on

[stiff prism]

nahhhh

[bright sorrel]

generally u probably dont wanna ||heal unless BV is staggered ||

[lone badger]

And get rid of ||balloons too||

To safely ||heal||

[thorny token]

Though it is possible

But true probably you wouldn't

[formal rock]

any tips for|| traitor lord?||

[lone badger]

Show inventory

Pls

[feral steeple]

and all your charms

[lone badger]

Ye

[alpine comet]

||usually try to stay close to him , he only has like 2 attacks a lunge and a dash attack , use shade dash to avoid the dash attack and the lunge is pretty easy to avoid with slight movement||

[lone badger]

May not have that

[formal rock]

right yeah i forgot

[alpine comet]

||shade cloak is literaly required to fight him||

[feral steeple]

@formal rock abuse ||descending dark|| to give immunity frames when ||TL|| is coming towards you, try to stay consistently close so she doesnt do the ||blade attacks||

[feral steeple]

also delete and mark as spoiler pls :)

[alpine comet]

its marked

[feral steeple]

is it

im just a fast clicker ig

[alpine comet]

yes

[feral steeple]

shit yeah

mb

[alpine comet]

[formal rock]

well okay i will try again thanks

[white lance]

FINALLY

||I HAVE BEAT 83 ZOTES||

[feral steeple]

WHY WHAT

[white lance]

I HAVE THE ||BACKGROUND||

[white lance]

you cant understand

The suffering

Pain

[feral steeple]

was it at max as well

[white lance]

oh

yes you cant understand

do you want me to tell you?

[feral steeple]

heres me thinking i knew everything about this game

[feral steeple]

ya if u wldnt mind

[alpine comet]

||for charms use shaman spell twister quick slash gsong and sbody||

[lone badger]

Isn't it ||59 or smt?||

[white lance]

||there's a thing where you can basically fight mini Zote endlessly||

[white lance]

||57 but I wanted to continue until I died||

[feral steeple]

is it like a location?

[lone badger]

Secret, ye

[white lance]

have you completed the game? So I can tell you

[feral steeple]

ive done ||true ending and shroom ending and all pantheons except from p5||

[white lance]

||You can't do the real end without pantheon 5||

at least I think so

[lone badger]

No?

[feral steeple]

i mean as in ||killing radiance||

[white lance]

Wasnt that the true ending where ||you complete pantheon 5||?

[feral steeple]

not ||absorad||

[white lance]

ohh

[feral steeple]

||ive got to absorad so many times man and i rlly need to practice that in the hall||

[white lance]

However ||the place is located in god home and you basically fight mini Zote endlessly||

||not mini normal Zotes, but Long Zotes, Tall Zotes, Exploding Zotes, Large Zotes...||

and fall from the sky

[feral steeple]

||is this zote mode locked behind doing pantheons with bindings?||

[white lance]

Basically you dont need anything

It's called ||Eternal Ordeal||

[feral steeple]

what part of ||godhome|| can i find it

[half venture]

In the ||boss practice room||

[white lance]

||hall of gods||

Its hidden

[half venture]

||Top right of the room try to break the ceiling||

[formal rock]

got ||him||

[feral steeple]

good job man

[white lance]

got who

[feral steeple]

i struggled on that so much when i first encountered ||TL||

[feral steeple]

||traitor lord||

[formal rock]

||him||

[white lance]

oh this dude

[feral steeple]

yaya

[feral steeple]

was wondering how ||he found his way into god home||

[white lance]

he is goated

You can tell from my pfp

what do i do with my ||geos||

[proper frost]

[lone badger]

Depends, what ya want?

[white lance]

Spend?

[proper frost]

||hint for unbreakeble charms||

[white lance]

I dont know what to do

[proper frost]

There's nothing more

[lone badger]

And what ya got already

[white lance]

I have them all

[proper frost]

Welp

Nothing to spend it on anymore

[feral steeple]

oo u guys are hollow knight experts

[proper frost]

||unless eggs from tuk lmao||

[lone badger]

Ye

[white lance]

I gave ||4500 to the bank||

nothing happened

[lone badger]

Did ya ||get it back?||

[white lance]

nope

still there

[proper frost]

That would only make you more

[lone badger]

Well then ya got somethin' ta do

[proper frost]

Like,it's not really "spending"

[white lance]

What

[white lance]

I gave them to him a few days ago

[lone badger]

Did ya buy out vendors?

[feral steeple]

so i ||summoned the grimm troupe|| and did all of that stuff, i only ||upgraded one fragile charm|| and then ||banished|| him, not really fully understanding that it would remove my chance to ||upgrade my other fragiles|| is there ANY way of me getting that chance back or am i stuck

[white lance]

What are?

[lone badger]

Go collect your ||compensation||

[lone badger]

Shops

[white lance]

compensation

tags?

[lone badger]

||do ya want more monies?||

[white lance]

yes

[proper frost]

Ohh man

[white lance]

mmmh

[lone badger]

Even ||mcgreed?||

[proper frost]

Sounds bald

[white lance]

yes yes yes

[feral steeple]

im locked out of it arent i

damnit

[proper frost]

I'm not sure honeslty

But possibly

[half venture]

Its not that bad

[lone badger]

I think the ||divine still stays even after you're done||

[half venture]

||Just a little geo every time it breaks||

[proper frost]

||That's if you kill nkg,not banish||

[lone badger]

No, I think they lost it to ||divine||

[feral steeple]

i mean i only really run ||fragile strength|| during ||pantheons||

[lone badger]

So what happens if ya got ||charms still in divine when ya do?||

[proper frost]

I guess if you are locked and on pc you may go for debug mod

[feral steeple]

it happened with me

[true finch]

||it just appears on the floor in dirthmouth||

[feral steeple]

ya

[lone badger]

Yeah, was gonna suggest that

[proper frost]

Welp that's what they did
And i said i don't really know

[feral steeple]

i got my ||charm|| back

[lone badger]

Noice

[proper frost]

Oh so you don't lose the charms

Then it's fine

[lone badger]

Na, the game ain't that unfair

[proper frost]

I was thinking that too

[feral steeple]

but i still have ||fragile strength and greed|| and im wondering if i can ever be able to make them ||unbreakable||

[proper frost]

No

[lone badger]

Unless ya make another save, no

[proper frost]

Or mod

[feral steeple]

really should have paid attention to them saying ||banish||

[lone badger]

Damn,

[feral steeple]

i was just like ||"oo i can skip nkg fight hells yeah"||

[proper frost]

||well melody is better than the child ||

[lone badger]

Why would you skip him?

[proper frost]

Too hard maybe

[feral steeple]

i was a simple shit player

[lone badger]

[feral steeple]

its now my favourite haha

[lone badger]

Damn

I like fighting him so I don't ||banish||

[proper frost]

Yeah so,without mods you can't do the thing

[lone badger]

Doesn't change much, tbf

[proper frost]

You can do both tho

[lone badger]

In ||GH, ye||

But I like fighting him for ||gchild, lol||

He mah buddy

[thick wing]

|| Never equip either iirc ||

[lone badger]

Damn

[proper frost]

True..

[fallen tundra]

how do i get the ||grub under kings station||

[jade sedge]

Send a screenshot of your map

[fallen tundra]

says okay with rizz (guys i swaetr this is a joke dont mute me again)

[warm pilot]

Any tips on ||grim||? He's so fast paced

[true finch]

There's an opening in your map under where you're standing

[fallen tundra]

how do i open it burh

[true finch]

Wdym

Just go around

[fallen tundra]

what

from the left?

or what

which side..

[true finch]

From the bottom

[fallen tundra]

THE BOTTOM WHERE

THERES NO HOLE

[true finch]

Where there's an opening in the map

[true finch]

Bruuu

Look down

[fallen tundra]

theres no pening down

[true finch]

In the map

[fallen tundra]

||ismas grove?||

[true finch]

||from kingdoms edge|| lol

[fallen tundra]

huh

oh

okay

i guess

[true finch]

Are there any specific attacks you struggle with

[alpine comet]

||try a few attempts learning his patterns dont focus on getting hits in||

[warm pilot]

like almost every singular one as I said he's too fast for me 😭

[warm pilot]

so ur saying I should just get more experienced?

[flint elk]

how hard is ||gpz|| compared to all the ||dream|| bosses

[alpine comet]

yeah kinda

[jade sedge]

Well more experienced on the boss, learn its attacks and how to dodge them

[flint elk]

practice

practice

and even more

practice

[true finch]

Yeah like the others said, just practice til you recognise the patterns and can react fast

[flint elk]

and more more more

until you beat

no tips for ||grimm||

just

[true finch]

He's like above average

[flint elk]

get good

[warm pilot]

if I go 3 days without any good progress I'll find a cheese strat

[flint elk]

theres no cheese

[alpine comet]

there is

[flint elk]

and there is no way your going 3 days on ||GRIMM||

[alpine comet]

half cheese id say

[warm pilot]

I mean he's not THAT hard i did only use 3 attempts on him so far

[flint elk]

it only took me like 4 hours on ||nkg||

[flint elk]

oh gosh

dont ask people

for help

with only 3 attempts

[alpine comet]

bruh

[flint elk]

do like 20

or 30

lmaoo

[tropic seal]

do you think it will rlly help him

[flint elk]

yeah]

[warm pilot]

First I need tips so I know how to even fight him brother

[flint elk]

its actually good advice

im telling him to practice

until he can beat him

therefore get good

[tropic seal]

wich attack are you struggling with?

[flint elk]

[flint elk]

dude

nuh uh

fight him more

then ask for help

[alpine comet]

at least do a few more attempt you probably didnt even see all his attacks

[weak jetty]

the 3rd hardest

[flint elk]

nerd

🤓

[warm pilot]

the ones where he ||puts spikes on the floor and makes them come up and where he comes from the celling and then dashes again||

[flint elk]

zach get more attempts you only tried 3 times lmao

[proper frost]

[flint elk]

that is an abnormal low amount of times

[alpine comet]

||stand still and do only slight movements to avoid it||

[flint elk]

do like 10

[weak jetty]

what boss?

[flint elk]

maybe 20

[warm pilot]

highkey glazing me

[flint elk]

??

[alpine comet]

if your closer to him then you can get alots of hits in

[warm pilot]

dawg I was ||double jumping|| ova that 😭💯

[tropic seal]

||for the ceiling dive, it really helps to move a bit away or dash, then jump and eventually pogo if you can. For the spikes, look if he spawns on the floor, if he does it's either bats or spikes||

[true finch]

For the ||ceiling downwards dash attack||, you can just ||dash|| any direction, then jump

[warm pilot]

alright thanks guys

[alpine comet]

dont do that cant avoid that way

[warm pilot]

I'll try for an hour or two now

[tropic seal]

yw and good luck!

[alpine comet]

Good luck

[weak jetty]

u'll finish it off within 2 or 3 attempts

[warm pilot]

alright I'm guessing it doesn't have a big hit box then?

[warm pilot]

thank you

[weak jetty]

nuh uh

[warm pilot]

[warm pilot]

oh n one more thing which charms should I use?

[weak jetty]

send inv

[warm pilot]

ight

[verbal saffron]

Are those ||tips for tmg or nkg|| only unspoiler this if you're n iirc

[weak jetty]

1st one

[verbal saffron]

ok

[weak jetty]

||equip steady body and quickslah unequip mark of pride and compass||

[tropic seal]

||just replace mark of pride by qslash, and nm glory & wayward for spell twister maybe if u dont use narts, otherwise nm glory and grubsong is cool||

[proper frost]

||nail arts are great iirc||

[warm pilot]

alright thanks

[alpine comet]

||quick slash strenght sbody and gsong imo||

[mellow tusk]

Which G?

[tropic seal]

||troup master||

[verbal saffron]

I would use ||grubsong instead of steady body|| but this works well if you like it

[proper frost]

||narts basically replacs nail so if you use(actually use) nmg you shouldn't get any other nail charms||

[mellow tusk]

||
Qslash
Mop
Strength
Claps him ez||

[signal night]

What's the best way to farm money? I need to get back my ||strength|| charm.

[proper frost]

Well that's what i've been told and it honestly makes sense

[mellow tusk]

||colo 2||

[tropic seal]

fair
ik that a lot of ppls prefer using ||narts against grimm|| cuz of opportunities

[alpine comet]

send map

[verbal saffron]

||1 extra notch||

[mellow tusk]

Anything goes

[tropic seal]

||he needs grimmchild iirc||

[mellow tusk]

Yes even funny smell charm

Oh wait

[proper frost]

||So spell orianted charms for skriek or the weaker version when close to him||

[signal night]

like full detailed map?

i have pretty much every area unlocked

[verbal saffron]

true roma

[alpine comet]

||send kingdoms edge then||

[mellow tusk]

|| qslash
Mop
Basically any 2 charm that your comfortable with||

[tropic seal]

so like ||shaman stone, soul catcher, spell twister/qf & gsong and nm glory?||

[proper frost]

||mop is bald,and provides no benefit in that fight.||

[mellow tusk]

Btw how do you get ||nm glory||

[proper frost]

Yep if ||the notches are there||

[tropic seal]

mhm

[tropic seal]

||get all nail arts, and go back to dirtmouth||

[signal night]

are you suggesting go to ||colosseum||?

[alpine comet]

yes

[mellow tusk]

I beated ||NKG|| with it so it will be good for that fight

[verbal saffron]

I don't ||use spells at all|| for ||nkg or tmg|| should I?

[signal night]

ok thx

[alpine comet]

||do collo 1 or 2 ez money||

[tropic seal]

i also rarely do but there are ||shriek and ddive opportunities|| ig

[mellow tusk]

||at nkg you can use shadr soul a lot||

[proper frost]

Maybe for safety on ||nkg||,but it's a waste of notches here.

[flint elk]

how strong is ||Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful, Grey Prince Zote|| on a scale of 1 to 10

[alpine comet]

11

[flint elk]

ah well cant be that bad

ill go fight him

[verbal saffron]

7.5

[mellow tusk]

When he does his range attack and he is far away you can ||dash|| then funny horizontal ||spell||

[proper frost]

||You can upspell the crap out of him really well,trust
I tried somewhat low gear in a rando||

[proper frost]

||dash||

[mellow tusk]

I had a very weird charms for||NKG||

And i am not even a speedrunner

[tropic seal]

||for nkg i love shrieking him during flame pillars, in pufferfish and before he starts his dive when i feel silly ||

[shut sparrow]

||spell|| needs tags

[mellow tusk]

||
Fury of the fallen
Dcrest
Strength
Mop||

Bad charm set

[alpine comet]

why || fury|| lol

[lone badger]

For funnies

[proper frost]

||i was using it kinda constantly
Spike floor,pufferfish,after bats||

[mellow tusk]

|| i got 8 masks i usually heal 3 hp and i am often on 1 hp during fight||

[tropic seal]

[mellow tusk]

Thats why I used it

Extra damage is nice

[lone badger]

Is it bad I use all ||nail for nkg?||

[mellow tusk]

No

[lone badger]

||and for most fights||

[tropic seal]

to each their fighting styles

[alpine comet]

your playthough your choice

[lone badger]

Fair, idk I just like the melee

[alpine comet]

tho || spells ||are stronger

[proper frost]

||especially @dire lintel ||

[mellow tusk]

Why i use ||dcrest|| on relatively hard fights

[tropic seal]

true!!

[lone badger]

I do use them, just not ||charms to buff them||

[proper frost]

This is such a timing mention lmao

[lone badger]

To flex your gamer stench

[mellow tusk]

Ah yes

[hybrid vale]

best ||charm build|| for ||nail|| for ||radiance||

[mellow tusk]

Ill smell like ogre

[proper frost]

You have all?

[mellow tusk]

||spells||?

[proper frost]

Tag this

[hybrid vale]

yep

[dire lintel]

context?

[lone badger]

||Strength, longnail, mark of pride, and quickslash||

Imo

[lone badger]

Or you can put ||steady body and swap for smt||

[tropic seal]

||unbreak strength, quick slash, mark of pride and sbody + free 1 notch||

[hybrid vale]

I hate ||spells|| in ||radiance fight||

[mellow tusk]

Why

[lone badger]

Mayhaps ||grubsong?||

[mellow tusk]

They melt her

[tropic seal]

for healing i'd say yeah

[proper frost]

||And longnail isntead of sb so you can attack without jumping||

If they want tho

[lone badger]

That or ||nmg||

[mellow tusk]

I beated her with spamming ||abyss||

[hybrid vale]

they ||keep me idle for too long which makes me easily hittable plus nail is more fun||

[lone badger]

Fair

[tropic seal]

i didnt even know ||mop + longnail hits radiance from the floor|| lol

[lone badger]

If she's close to ground

[mellow tusk]

4 ||shrieks|| at the start of the fight seems fair

[lone badger]

If you have ||spare soul beforehand||

[hybrid vale]

I will use ||shrieks but not very often||

[lone badger]

[mellow tusk]

Yea from ||thk||

[hybrid vale]

yea i usually js ||spam spells to melt the hollow knight||

[olive mirage]

keep in mind that s||he gets simi-Iframes if you spam them too fast||

[lone badger]

Damn

[olive mirage]

||you have to what a moment in between cast to get full damage ||

[lone badger]

A smidgen of a second

[hybrid vale]

I prolly wanna go look for all the ||vessel fragments and mask shards first tho||

[lone badger]

Indeed

[olive mirage]

||like its a fraction of a second that you have to wait so just dont mash the cast button||

[hybrid vale]

what ||charm build do u guys use in free roam?||

[alpine comet]

||compass||

[hybrid vale]

well yea, other than that?

[lone badger]

||Exploring builds, like sprint master, dash master, uhhhhh||

[alpine comet]

||COMPASS||

[olive mirage]

||compass plus any speed charms and maybe some geo getting charms||

[lone badger]

Oh, and ||greed||

[olive mirage]

really up to you

[lone badger]

And ||gathering swarm||

[olive mirage]

yall sure he has all of that?

[lone badger]

O

[alpine comet]

those are the most basic charms

[lone badger]

Uhhhhhhhh

[hybrid vale]

this is what i personally use

[olive mirage]

||careful not to give unnecessary spoilers ||

[lone badger]

All gud

[olive mirage]

cool you have them all

[hybrid vale]

bet

[lone badger]

Maybe throw a ||health charm instead of soul catcher?||

[hybrid vale]

Yea took me like 5 hours of grinding and asking people for clues to get them

[hybrid vale]

hm ok

[olive mirage]

||eh soul catcher helps you heal more though||

[lone badger]

That true

[olive mirage]

def worth it though

[lone badger]

Then ||sharp shadow then||

[olive mirage]

feels great to have them all

[hybrid vale]

fr

[lone badger]

Indeed

[hybrid vale]

nah its so good when getting through places i dont feel like killing things in

[olive mirage]

what ||% ||are you at?

[hybrid vale]

||100||

[olive mirage]

cool

so close yet so far

[hybrid vale]

still have a bunch of bugs i havent ||killed dk what they are tho||

[lone badger]

Have ya done ||dlc yet?||

[olive mirage]

||that doent give %||

[olive mirage]

"dlc"

[hybrid vale]

not sure tbh this is my first play through

[lone badger]

||Downloadable content||

[hybrid vale]

oh

[olive mirage]

I know what dlc means idk why team cherry calls it dlc though

they are updates

[alpine comet]

Free dlc

[lone badger]

Well, its downloadable content

[olive mirage]

yeah

[olive mirage]

so is the entire game

[lone badger]

Unless physical

[lyric locust]

So uh

Guys

[olive mirage]

yeah I just like to specify that its not really dlc in its usual meaning because dlc usually means you have to buy it.

[lone badger]

Ye?

[lone badger]

True, lol

[lyric locust]

I discovered a || hive like place at the bottom of kingdoms edge, how to get there? ||

[lone badger]

Show mep

[lyric locust]

Of what

Everything?

[lone badger]

||kingdoms edge||

[neat karma]

moreso dlc usually means extra content that youll have to download apart of the game, which simply isnt the case since theyre literally part of the main game

[lone badger]

Thought that was just ||voidheart edition||

[lyric locust]

Later, rn I can't take a picture cuz I JUST left home mb

[neat karma]

no every single version of the game has all the ""dlc""

[lone badger]

You gud

[neat karma]

because theyre just updates,

[proper frost]

this channel requires that u use discords spoiler tagging feature for all content after dirtmouth (charms, bosses, locations, etc)

||example|| --> ||turns into this||

[neat karma]

imagine copy pasting smh roma

[alpine comet]

||it's near the ancient basin and kingdoms edge area where they connect||

[olive mirage]

iirc you have to get like a 3rd party downpatch in order to get a game that doesnt have dlc

[proper frost]

Wtff

What's wrong with that

[neat karma]

well steam does have ONE versionn that is missing dlc, but thats just called an older update

[slow yoke]

where u been?

[lone badger]

Tag this please with || on both sides

[olive mirage]

yeah, like Roma said you gotta use spoiler tags

oof we did not need 3 people to say that

[hybrid vale]

is this another ||nail guy situation||

[neat karma]

no

[lone badger]

No, but enjoy it while ya can

[olive mirage]

no you|| cant hit him ||

[neat karma]

||mainly because the fact you cannot save him||

[hybrid vale]

I heard ||that he will die||

[unreal rivet]

How do you use the tag

[olive mirage]

dont spoil anything

[lone badger]

|| both sides

[neat karma]

bestie theyre already at the thing

[olive mirage]

pins tells you how

or put || on both sides

[neat karma]

||Like this||

[lone badger]

Yeah, or put /spoilers in front

[unreal rivet]

Oh

Ok

[hybrid vale]

well ||im sitting with him and im scared he dies bro||

[neat karma]

important to mention that this method will not work if youre editing a message

[lone badger]

Indeed, forgor to mention

[olive mirage]

[hybrid vale]

bro

actually

[lone badger]

Just chill with him and enjoy the moment

[warm pilot]

I swear my hollow knight is different than the hollow knight of everyone else why is ||grim|| just doing the same attack 5 times in a row and why does he do his attacks so fast that I don't even know which one is coming

[alpine comet]

Witness

[olive mirage]

you got mods?

[neat karma]

?tag uncspoilers @lone badger

[languid radish]

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[lone badger]

Hmm? What'd I do?

Oh no I meant which attack

[olive mirage]

oh

[lone badger]

Should have clarified

[olive mirage]

lol

[warm pilot]

oh all of them

[olive mirage]

do you have any mods installed?

[warm pilot]

he's so fast that I can't even tell which one he's doing

[lone badger]

No, which does he repeat?

[warm pilot]

nope I'm on console

[olive mirage]

and you send a video or something?

[warm pilot]

||his little dash from the top and then dash on the ground||

[hybrid vale]

aw man ||he is gone||

[olive mirage]

because he is a pretty fast boss

[warm pilot]

he doesn't do it everytime but like I'll try to clip it next time it happens

[olive mirage]

yeah that would be nice

because if it is a bug that sounds like a really weird one

[lone badger]

Ah, okay, for that if you see him ||up there, move a little to left or right, and then jump over and dash to avoid him||

[alpine comet]

Most likely isn't a glitch just getting unlucky

Sometimes bosses do that

[warm pilot]

I got ||grim to do this pufferfish attack 3 times I think that's progress||

[lone badger]

Fun Fact: ||that determines his health||

[warm pilot]

so how much does that mean then?

[lone badger]

||Once for 75%, again for 50% and finally one for 25%||

Iirc

[thorny token]

Basically you're almost there

[proper frost]

||And at ~95 if you hit him during the bow||

[lone badger]

Ye

[warm pilot]

oh darn I got close it's just the ||tight dodging on the pufferfish one I need to learn||

[proper frost]

Yeah learning those is very important

[lone badger]

||Recommend to jump over it towards him and on the land go back to the wall||

[warm pilot]

I think another 20 minutes and I'll be done with ||grim||

[warm pilot]

oh alright

[thorny token]

Basically like this

[lone badger]

Indeed

[thorny token]

Just stay near the walls

[jade sedge]

(By cat)

[proper frost]

I like ths look on the first one lol

[thorny token]

Shrue

[warm pilot]

alright thanks for the illustration

[thorny token]

Thank cat the mod, he drew(?) it

[lone badger]

Ye

[thorny token]

He made it idk

[fallen tundra]

how i get this ||grub in deepnest its my last||

[neat karma]

from the room left of it

[fallen tundra]

soo

that made no sense..

[true finch]

||from deepnest||