hk-help

[spark yoke]

Yeah but it ruins the entire point

[lean drum]

no it doesnt

[neat karma]

Chill down

[spark yoke]

Yes it does

[spark yoke]

You can literally dodge by staying jn one place

[lean drum]

one of the plot points of ||warrior dreams|| IS THAT THEY ARE EASY

theres a reason you can beat them all in your sleep

[thick wing]

calm down lil bro

[shut sparrow]

tags

[spark yoke]

||MARKOTH!?!!?!||

[shut sparrow]

wtf why is every second message in all caps

[spark yoke]

Worst boss ever btw

[lean drum]

his base fight is easy

[simple island]

though I guess the intentional part doesn't even need to exist like even the devs code in a special dumb way to beat a boss (like the old zelda letting you one shot ganon if you go there with the stick or something) even if intentional it can still be cheese
hmmm

[thick wing]

I am very confused aswell

[lean drum]

you can beat all ||warrior dreams|| super easily

[spark yoke]

His base fight is harder than ||hollow knight||

[simple island]

so I guess the definition really is just, trivialises the fight without requiring skill

[stiff prism]

i'm a bit lost since ||shaw|| told me about the ||black egg||, do i go to the ||crystal caves||?

[shut sparrow]

tags

[lean drum]

are we playing the same game

[spark yoke]

In my opinion

[spark yoke]

Yes

[lean drum]

are we talking about the same fight

[spark yoke]

Yes

[jade sedge]

Sure

[lean drum]

||shaw as a name for hornet is crazy||

how many u got

[stiff prism]

it's funny

[lean drum]

buy some??

[simple island]

that sounds like a good place to start
||hornet|| talks a lot about goals that you should try to reach but like... eventually, most of them aren't accessible from the start

[thick wing]

Crazy flow of logic

[lean drum]

get more

ig

just like

explore

move around

[spark yoke]

Buy some

Its a ruthless economic cycle

[long jewel]

how do i ||gravedigger||

[spark yoke]

Whoa buddy

Tags

[lean drum]

also ive become what i never thought i could be

[long jewel]

what

[lean drum]

i feel like a god

[spark yoke]

Oh are you new

[lean drum]

💀

[spark yoke]

Put brackets around the message

|| ||

[long jewel]

sowwy

[spark yoke]

Double brackets

Np

[simple island]

please explain what tags is before screaming it to someones face btw, it helps to get the message through

[long jewel]

how ||do i get gravedigger||

[simple island]

the pins explains it well

[lean drum]

bruh you unlock ||compass|| in dirtmouth

that aint a spoiler

[spark yoke]

||dream nail|| him

[thick wing]

Azey boy spoiler tags!

[stiff prism]

Flow of Logic?

[spark yoke]

Lmao

[neat karma]

||you can only get after dirtmouth||

[simple island]

im not sure what you mean btw, are you trying to just make them show up ?

[thick wing]

Yeah, logic

[long jewel]

uh huh

[simple island]

that just happens at some point after you progress and get a certain item

[stiff prism]

There's no logic
Making sense is overrated

[thick wing]

Idk Miles Edgeworth uses logic and he's pretty based

[simple island]

please try to not reply ping me when im in chat, i ill see your message

?tag noping

[languid radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462200562620825600/919850262959640596/dontpingplz.png

[thick wing]

me when french

[stiff prism]

More like miles Edgyworth amirite

[spark yoke]

Fr

[long jewel]

||dream nail?|| i know like everything about the game right now so you can tell me what it is i just never encountered ||gravedigger||

[simple island]

yeah you need that

[thick wing]

more like Simon Blackquill but eh go off

[simple island]

but don't worry too much about getting certain stuff, just explore and go where you can and see what happens afterwards

[shut sparrow]

I love how immediately the next reply was a ping

[long jewel]

and what about ||menderbug?||

[thick wing]

You know after all of this time I still appreciate the detail of making the emoji and stickers frown

[lean drum]

i had no idea who ||gravedigger|| was before this

i think its been long since i killed him

and i just forgot

[shut sparrow]

wtf I never noticed

that's cool

[simple island]

they just have a ||2% chance of showing whenever ||you enter the well (given that you break the sign under it)

[long jewel]

so a one ||in fifty chance|| to see them? and if|| he flys away you have to do it all again?||

[shut sparrow]

can't they also spawn ||if you enter from another side?||

[lean drum]

you dont "have" to do it

[spark yoke]

You gotta listen for audio cues and then pause your game so you dont get fall stun

[lean drum]

its an easter egg

[spark yoke]

Thats how you kill him

[spark yoke]

Yeah

[long jewel]

but|| the journal entry||

[neat karma]

Not necessary

[spark yoke]

Doesnt count towards achievements

[lean drum]

doesnt count towards 112%

[neat karma]

Nor the ||journal completion||

[simple island]

Yeah of course they can

[long jewel]

also wheres ||his journal?||

[spiral scroll]

||I need help I just dumped all my 2.7k geo in this fountain in ancient basin fountain for like the king or whatever how do I get it back or does it do something ~||

[neat karma]

You cant get it back

[long jewel]

But you ||can drop 300 more for something!||

[neat karma]

||itll give you soemthing if you drop enough money and it stacks with the money youve previously put||

[spark yoke]

Ye

[long jewel]

its a mod

dont get mods before completing the game

please

[spiral scroll]

I wa a planning to buy a lot of things with it but ok

If I can find it again lol

[long jewel]

because then, it wont be as fun

[spiral scroll]

Just finding the ||pale ore in basin ||

[simple island]

Depends on what you consider beating it

30 hour is a minimum but you will miss a lot lot of important content

For the full experience 50 is more standard

But imo it’s worth investing a few more hours than that maybe I’m biased

[lean drum]

explore

[simple island]

You will find those laying about around the world, mostly in areas far away in the edges of the map, you can’t really miss them so don’t worry you will come across some soon enough

[lean drum]

its just a thing that you get for exploring

like

eventually you get them all

[simple island]

But they are probably all in areas you have yet to even discover

Please delete that

[lean drum]

!unc

!uncspoiler

[simple island]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[thick wing]

wheeze

[lean drum]

I ODNT KNOW

HOW DO ITO IUT

do the uncspoiler tag

thingy

the help message

?uncspoiler

?uncspoilers

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[lean drum]

yes

img ood

[simple island]

Don’t worry about any of this

[lean drum]

anyway @thick wing DO NOT look at @long jewel spoilers

they actually spoil it

[simple island]

You got your answer that’s all you should care about

[spiral scroll]

Just like look

[lean drum]

cleanse your brain

[spiral scroll]

I spend 3 hours looking for one

[lean drum]

anyway all the pale ore is in areas you dont even know yet

so just keep exploring

[spiral scroll]

Grrr spoiler

[long jewel]

im sowwy

[spiral scroll]

Er nuh uh

Look

[simple island]

That is amongst the good places to look

[stable bluff]

|| If we vanish the grimm troupe, can we still fight NKG in godhome? ||

[simple island]

It’s fine, now you know to be careful in the future
But yeah it is somewhat hard to resist the urge to say something when you know the answer

[simple island]

It unlocks it

[thick wing]

tags

[stable bluff]

Yeah i forgot the || at the end lol 💀

[simple island]

(no need to be rude about it…)

[thick wing]

on gyatt

wait no

[spark yoke]

Aw

[simple island]

Ok I think that’s my cue

Im going to go eep

[thick wing]

sleepy sleep sleep

[simple island]

[stable bluff]

Oh cool, || I wanted to vanish it in a new safe file but still wanted to fight NKG, thanks ||

[spark yoke]

Nuuuu

Its good

Good

[simple island]

(btw it is called "||banished||")

[spark yoke]

Its ok

[simple island]

Then get out of here

[stable bluff]

This

[spark yoke]

Were not supposed to

[simple island]

Sure this the place with, the least spoilers of this discord

[stable bluff]

• I got into this game after being spoiled literally everything

And still had lot of fun

[simple island]

And I wish it could have none but, mistakes always happen

[stable bluff]

In order words, avoiding a game cause of some stupid spoilers is absolutely dumb

[simple island]

If you don’t want spoilers your better off spending the least amount of time in here

[stable bluff]

Cool

Enjoy it then

[spark yoke]

GO GO GO

Also guys if you wanna help dont like just tell people straight up

Gl

[spark yoke]

Thats what fandoms for

Nice

Are you in college or what

[long jewel]

||I keep dying to nkg, how do i beat this guy??||

[spark yoke]

So it cant be that bad

[spark yoke]

Get good

Jk i dont have advice

It was hard for me too

[long jewel]

u ppl so damn rude

[spark yoke]

I dont know what to tell you

Use ||shade dash|| ig

[long jewel]

No crap

[spark yoke]

“U ppl so damn rude” -hypocrite

[flint elk]

there are 6

in the game

[long jewel]

Proving my point

[spark yoke]

What point

Just quoting

[long jewel]

That your rude

[flint elk]

get the ||ancient basin one||

[spark yoke]

And you arent?

[wraith sail]

Dont summon the wall again

[spark yoke]

Terraria?

[long jewel]

You characterized me as a hypocrite

What did i do

[thick wing]

This is #hk-help , dont make dumb and or unhelpful comments if youve got no advice to give thank you

[spark yoke]

You were rude

[spark yoke]

Mb

[wraith sail]

This wall

[long jewel]

Reply to a single message that makes me rude

[wraith sail]

Jinxty read the wall for help

[spark yoke]

Aaaah

[bright sorrel]

looks like the channel went to hell when i left

[spark yoke]

Why is it so big

I mean the wall i mean the wall

Did yall just copy the fandom or somethinf?

[bright sorrel]

because its a mid wall

[bright sorrel]

no it says who made it

[spark yoke]

Ok bro

Oh

[bright sorrel]

rocket and laggycat made it

[spark yoke]

Because I know who those are

Im new btw

[bright sorrel]

👶

[spark yoke]

Yes

[bright sorrel]

both of them left afaik

[spark yoke]

Ok

[long jewel]

Then you should learn some manners

[spark yoke]

Bro joined a month ago

Also this is hk help not hk arguments

[thick wing]

BRUH

[bright sorrel]

[thick wing]

Anika I'm dissapointed

Laggycatmaster IS Cat

The mod

[bright sorrel]

it is?

[thick wing]

YEAH

[bright sorrel]

that is not their username tho

[thick wing]

Changed it

[bright sorrel]

how would i know

[thick wing]

Implications

[spark yoke]

Hmm

[thick wing]

Who else would it be, catwithscarf?

[spark yoke]

Idk who any of these people are

But i dont wanna butt in so whatever

[thick wing]

s

[spark yoke]

Ah yes

s

Anyway i gtg bye

[thick wing]

s

bye

[lean drum]

should i do this ||banishment|| thingy or do the ||ritual||

[wraith sail]

Latter is funnier

[lean drum]

what do you mean funnier

[wraith sail]

Its ||no boss battle|| vs ||boss battle||

[lean drum]

oh

OH

ok ima do it

i think i know what boss i have to fight

and im scared

since like the best players of this game struggle with it

but my quest is to be so good when i finally decide to do the ||true final boss who idk who it is|| that i do it first try

[dull oriole]

Hello, is there anyone who has a save that would be before ||Grimm Nightmare|| and would advance a little in the game?

[bright sorrel]

this channel requires that u use discords spoiler tagging feature for all content after dirtmouth (charms, bosses, locations, etc)

||example|| --> ||turns into this||

[twilit thorn]

Anyone know any tips for || the last really challenging room in the white Palaces main path? I keep getting stuck on the last set of spikes that retract from the walls||

[thick wing]

4

bruh

get out

[lean drum]

why

[warped nimbus]

||5, 3 for main game and 2 for godhome||

[dawn timber]

||holy shit does anyone have tips for radiant hive night cause i prolly have over 300 tries on him||

[dull oriole]

for a achivement

[lean drum]

oh

you want the other path of that path

i recommend starting a new playthrough where you just go the other way

[white lance]

|| I freed all the grubs ||

now i have ||104%||

[lean drum]

nice

[twilit thorn]

I can provide screenshots if that'd help

[lean drum]

did you see what happened to them

[white lance]

Next step is ||killing all the dream bosses||

[white lance]

no?

Why should i

[lean drum]

sleep on a bench and go back here

there

[white lance]

But I'm far away

okay I'll go

I was getting ||Salubra's blessing||

[lean drum]

ah

[white lance]

NAH

I DID ALL THAT FOR NOTHING?

[lean drum]

arent you even a little bit sad

[white lance]

nah

[lean drum]

all your friends are dead

you worked so hard

[white lance]

at least they gave me geo

and a charm

so whats the sad fact

[bright sorrel]

||crystal crawler. they are the enemies in peaks that crawl and shoot Lazers||

[flat star]

thank u very much man

[white lance]

||Does this thing give game percentage?||

[bright sorrel]

no

[white lance]

YES.

ok so i just have to beat ||dream warriors||

Because ||dream bosses are all dead||

the only one I have left is at ||Deepnest|| but I don't know where it is because I was there once

If you are having problems with him don't think about what's next

you'll know.

[flat star]

bro in my first playthrough I died to hornet 25 times it's totally normal

[twilit thorn]

Use spoilers also ||use the stink charm, it kills his floaty thing he summons, allowing you to heal more during the fight||

[abstract mist]

in my first playthrough i died to false knight 10 times and beat hornet on my third try is that normal

[white lance]

i beat ||Radiance|| with 3 atts so that normal

[twilit thorn]

|| you get it from the dung defender||

[bright sorrel]

make sure you know they have something before u suggest using it

[twilit thorn]

Didn't think about that apologies

[bright sorrel]

?tag uncspoiler

[languid radish]

No tag uncspoiler found.

[white lance]

||if you go to royal waterways you will find a boss called "Dung Defender" who when beaten gives it ||

[bright sorrel]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[white lance]

||royale waterways are under city of tears, you need a simple key, not saying much||

[lean drum]

this is super unnecessary spoiler

[white lance]

Wdym

[lean drum]

telling them "explore ||royal waterways|| a bit" suffices

that spoils them for so much stuff

[white lance]

oh im not good with that sorry

[lean drum]

here we talk in cryptic riddles

[bright sorrel]

not always

[abstract mist]

womp womp just deal with it

[white lance]

however Is there a ||dream version|| of the ||Dung Defender||

[bright sorrel]

definitely not

this channel requires that u use discords spoiler tagging feature for all content after dirtmouth (charms, bosses, locations, etc)

||example|| --> ||turns into this||

[abstract mist]

oh you already know what he gives you

[white lance]

so there Is not?

[lean drum]

yes there is

[abstract mist]

gojo what was the last thing you have done before getting there

[white lance]

yes but||Dung Defender|| is gone, like i cant find him

[abstract mist]

i wanna know how far you are

[bright sorrel]

this message needs spoiler tags

[abstract mist]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

how do you even do itttttttttt

[white lance]

...||the Dung Defender dream version gives essence?||

[twilit thorn]

Anyways can anybody give me tips for this? If not I understand

[abstract mist]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM LEAVING

[lean drum]

all of them do

[bright sorrel]

can u send an image of the room?

[lean drum]

but thats one of the harder ones

[bright sorrel]

<@&283547423706447872> untagged message

[white lance]

I know a fun method for that

it's like, ||you line up with the wall and then you dash||

[bright sorrel]

zal

[plain kettle]

@abstract mist make sure to soiler tag your messages

[lean drum]

soiler tag

[bright sorrel]

soiler

[lean drum]

soiler tag is what ||dung defender|| uses

[bright sorrel]

if its the room im thinking u can just go around them

just ||dash under the thing the spikes are on ||

[plain kettle]

Die

[bright sorrel]

[lean drum]

add brown spoiler tag

name it soiler tag

[twilit thorn]

How do I spoiler images?

[lean drum]

theres an eye icon

[analog roost]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

🔹 Images that were sent untagged cannot be edited and must be deleted.

[analog roost]

I’m surprised I remembered that

[bright sorrel]

frito jump scare

[analog roost]

The pfp fits

[bright sorrel]

[twilit thorn]

||the area above this screenshot||

[lean drum]

i love hearing "ah, bapanata" everytime i talk to ||the map guy's wife||

[thick wing]

||Iselda|| peak NPC

[bright sorrel]

||tricky timing.
some tips are u can rapidly press your cdash button to stay on the wall to give urself time to go whenever u want to ||

kinda hard to give tips for this since its mostly abt ur execution and understanding the timings

[idle tiger]

OH MY GOD

I KNOW THIS ROOM

[white lance]

||Iselda||😭🙏

[lean drum]

i got my ||3 flames||, gonna do the ||ritual||

[bright sorrel]

just try to ||figure out when the spikes retract and go up asap||

[white lance]

you'll have to try a little harder than that

[bright sorrel]

like u should ||start going as the spikes are retracting. not once they have fully retracted ||

[idle tiger]

||yeah white palace is kind of a pain because you cant get map so it can be very confusing and once i fell back down half of white palace and it for some reason set my hard check at the bottom so i had to redo lower palace 😦 ||

[idle tiger]

Yes or else you wont have enough time

[lean drum]

WHAT IN GODS NAME JUST HAPPENED

[idle tiger]

If your goated you can ||pogo off the spikes|| maybe

[idle tiger]

?

[lean drum]

I DIDNT HAVE TIME TO PROCESS THAT THE BOSS STARTED

[idle tiger]

Use spoiler tag

[soft widget]

wat

[white lance]

||Where's the dream guy who throws buzzsaws?|| ||Deepnest but where||

[idle tiger]

Are you talking about ||Grimm|| ?

[lean drum]

yea

wait, yall are saying i have to BEAT THAT

[analog roost]

Have you noticed those ||bright mushrooms||

[white lance]

||Did you know there's a dream version of him too?||

[soft widget]

its not hard lol

[lean drum]

oh i AM fighting the ||dream version||

[white lance]

||It took me more than 20 tries for the dream version||

[soft widget]

yeah that IS hard

but its also the most fun fight in the game

[white lance]

||NKG?||

[lean drum]

i didnt even see the boss start and im already dead

[lean drum]

yes

[analog roost]

That’s typical

[idle tiger]

||Ok so most people use nail arts but i hate nail arts so i just equip Soul Eater charm and spam spells. if you dont have soul eater, just equip shaman stone anyway and spam as many spells as you can. also dont attack him while hes bowing or else he does pufferfish attack early. When he does pufferfish attack stand in the corner and jump over any flames that come toward you. From there just try to be conservative its very easy to get greedy||

[soft widget]

just keep on practicing and learning its moves

[idle tiger]

OH SHOOT

Ok then forget what I said

[white lance]

you can go only ||nail or only spells||

[idle tiger]

Actually dont forget what I said

[soft widget]

it took me 75? + attempts for him

but its so much fun

[idle tiger]

Take everything I said and multiply it by two

[soft widget]

it was the most fun pain in my life

[white lance]

I always use the ||nail|| for anything

[lean drum]

also the only boss who's ||name was directly in the center of the screen||

that was scary

[soft widget]

not the only boss

[analog roost]

Neat feature, isn’t it?

Sets him apart

[white lance]

Not the only one

[lean drum]

so far

atleast

thats the only one i found

[idle tiger]

Guys ||Failed Champ with max equiptment took me 100+ tries and 4 hours but both Lost Kin and Soul Tyrant I beat first try with very minimal equipment||

My FIRST playthrough

LOL

[lean drum]

did you say 100

like

[soft widget]

||failed champ is the hardest dream fight by far but u can cheese him super easily||

[lean drum]

one followed by 2 zeros

[scarlet hull]

||failed champ is easy af… (imo)||

[idle tiger]

YES

[soft widget]

yes, thats what 100 means?

[lean drum]

holy hell

it took me a ton of attempts

[scarlet hull]

Idk

[lean drum]

like 10

[idle tiger]

Also i accidentally did ||qga and died like 15 times to Uumuu||

[soft widget]

theres a super easy cheese to it

[white lance]

||guys should I die doing the Flower Quest or look for a dream warrior in Deepnest?|| They both suck

[lean drum]

but nowhere near that

[idle tiger]

Now I know to just stun lock him

But Like i didnt know that

[lean drum]

second one doesnt suck?

[scarlet hull]

I find ||failed champ one of the easiest dream bosses cause it’s so easy to predict and dodge||

[idle tiger]

oops am i supposed to blur speedrun strats?

[white lance]

i had to say it with no tags sorry

[soft widget]

I find ||lost kin|| the easiest

[lean drum]

wait you didnt know to do that

[idle tiger]

Yes now hes so easy but I used to not be used to the speed of these bosses

[lean drum]

oh

makes more sense

[idle tiger]

Well I did know that's how to beat him but I could never be fast enough

[soft widget]

it's not exactly common knowledge lol

[analog roost]

||qga refers to a specific skip, unless you are actually referring to said skip||

[idle tiger]

I meant ||acid skip into canyon||

[lean drum]

i love how ||broken vessel|| was a pain in the ass and yet ||lost kin|| i could tank his hits and he still died

[white lance]

I find ||NKG|| the easiest 🤓

[idle tiger]

||dude lost kin is easier cuz you have more upgrades (or atleast supposed to)||

[scenic egret]

||twister and catcher are 8% more efficient||

[lean drum]

naw yall all wrong ||noeyes|| is the easiest

[scenic egret]

difficulty is subjective

[idle tiger]

||catcher is like top 5 worst charms. twister is like high B on my tier list but soul eater is low A||

[lean drum]

i just cashed in on ||6k by selling relics||

i have enough for ||strength|| now

[scenic egret]

||it increases soul gain from 11 to 14 per hit||

[idle tiger]

||guys i beat NKG in one hit in .1 second so hard!!!||

[scenic egret]

tags

[white lance]

||Elder Hu|| (if that was the name [i call him pancake thrower]) slams

[idle tiger]

BUD YOU ARE NOT A WIKI MODERATOR LIKE CHILL OUT

caps

[flat star]

I find /spoiler message: Absolute Rad the easiest

[twilit thorn]

||the problem with that is I can't seem to react to that quick, best I can do is just go as soon as the paths open but because the last set is extra long, I don't have as much time to react as the rest of the spikes on the wall|| tbf I guess I should have known it was just I needed to react faster, guess I got another few hours ahead of me.

[white lance]

...

[scenic egret]

do not use the /spoiler method

[flat star]

lol

[scenic egret]

also it has to be at the start

[analog roost]

That’s not the right method lol

[scenic egret]

/spoiler this is a working message

[analog roost]

?tag spoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 Ensure Discord’s spoiler tagging is used around spoilers (Charms, bosses, locations, etc.) to be considerate of multiple conversations taking place. Two vertical bars on either side of text will tag it as a spoiler - ||This is a spoiler.|| > ||This is a spoiler.|| Alternatively, adding /spoiler at the start of a message will tag it.

🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.

[bright sorrel]

like I previously mentioned ||u can hold down/spam the cdash button to stall on the wall and give yourself time ||

[scenic egret]

||this is a working message||

result

[lean drum]

||this works||

[idle tiger]

||my strat is to just spam as much as possible. There were only like 1-2 bosses I played conservitive after I got dive which was pretty late since I never figured out how to get it. Now If I struggle I just equip shaman and soul eater and spam D dark until i win||

[white lance]

so, take a risk at ||Deepnest to find that dream warrior|| or do the ||Flower Quest||?

[analog roost]

Could just search for ||deepnest fellow||

[scenic egret]

whichever one you want
||deepnest|| is typically easier, depends on how much you enjoy hitless

[white lance]

I hate both.

[scarlet hull]

[analog roost]

Understandable

But the fight is fun imo

[white lance]

but I don't know what to do so either I go to ||godhome|| or I do one of the two

WAIT

NOW I KNOW WHY IM SEARCHING THAT DUDE

||I need to unlock pantheon 3||

[analog roost]

Lmao

[white lance]

its the only one im missing

[twilit thorn]

||ik that's the only reason ive gotten this far problem is that no matter how much time I have to stall I just can't seem to get through those spikes unlike the smaller sets||

[lean drum]

im ready to try again, this time with decent charms

[white lance]

do not use||fragile heart||

[lean drum]

||deepnest isnt even scary once you have pure nail bro||

everything is onehit

[bright sorrel]

||jump as they retract then quickly use wings||

[lean drum]

why not

[white lance]

Exactly ||but it is still a confusing place full of thorns||

[white lance]

Because you'll ||end up dead in 5 hits anyway||

Are you a ||spell or nail person?||

[lean drum]

its a ||dream fight||

i cant lose it

[white lance]

not that

[lean drum]

so it gives me 1 extra hit

[white lance]

It's useless

[lean drum]

before i inevitably die

[twilit thorn]

Pro tip || Most enemies don't respawn if you don't rest, so you can just clear the optimal route ahead of time and then grab the flower additionally you can still use the tram without enemies respawning||

[white lance]

oh thank you

[lean drum]

I SURVIVED FOR AN EXTRA SECOND

LETS GO

[white lance]

Now I'll tell you which charms to use

Honestly I used ||Sharp Shadow, unbreakable strength, quick slash and dream wielder||

||dream wielder may seem like a strange choice but it gives many souls||

[scenic egret]

||sharp shadow|| strikes again

[stable bluff]

|| does anyone know a good place to grind jumping husks for journal ||

[white lance]

It's goated

[scenic egret]

it is not

[thick wing]

it is awful

[white lance]

tf

[thick wing]

especially for this boss(why tf would you use it for this)

[white lance]

i literally use it for everything

[thick wing]

Yeah that's the problem, you're an addict

[idle tiger]

||so the elevator from city to crossroads. If you go up that elevator into crossroads then go left there is an area with a few jumping husks||

[white lance]

before for bosses I mainly used ||sharp shadow and dash master||

[idle tiger]

||BRUH||

[stable bluff]

thx

[white lance]

It works so whats the problem

it worked*

[scenic egret]

||1. "oh its free damage" pogo does more and gives more soul. plus, youre using up 2 notches, which couldve been something like soul catcher
2." oh longer dash" you can dash through things without it
3. "dashmaster synergy" no. just no.
4. "but go fast" it makes like a 0.5 second difference and is only used for pure move speed speedrunning at a high level. it also makes platforming harder||

[thick wing]

Because it's not good. It works for you sure but uh...it's not good

[idle tiger]

||Yeah ands its SLOW and INEFFICIENT and IT DOESNT WORK FOR PANTHEONS and IT SUCKS and THERE ARE WAY FASTER AND EASIER AND MORE CONSISTENT AND EARLIER GAME CONTENT TAHT YOU COULD USE WHYYYY||

||sharp shadow isi good for traitor lord and nothing else||

[scenic egret]

its not good for that boss

[white lance]

I actually only use ||nail and sometimes spells||

[thick wing]

It's not even good for that imo, you get displaced farther

[lean drum]

im stuck in a weird situation

[idle tiger]

I spam spells for all soul i get

[lean drum]

i dont like ||spells|| but i also dont like ||nail arts||

[bright sorrel]

ok

[scenic egret]

that has no connection to whether or not the charm is good or bad

[lean drum]

so im just locked out of being able to try ||nkg|| until i git gud

[white lance]

||Descendent dark is in our hearts||

[scenic egret]

spoiler tags

[idle tiger]

||Well for me it helped because it gave more time for my shade dash to recharge.||

[idle tiger]

YES SOMEONE WHO DOESNT LIKE ||flukenest||

I hate ||flukenest||

[white lance]

all charms are good c'mon

[idle tiger]

||Ddark is better||

[lean drum]

wait i should use ||flukenest|| it does a lot of damage

[scenic egret]

||thorns|| is actively harming you

[idle tiger]

in niche scenarios (||except dreamsheild||

[lean drum]

jkjk

[neat karma]

This couldnt be farther from the truth

[white lance]

okay maybe just one is bad

[lean drum]

how

[thick wing]

||Glowing Womb, Joni's Blessing, Thorns of Agony, Dreamshield|| honest reaction

[white lance]

just two

[idle tiger]

well to be fair. ||dreamsheild helped me a lot with colo 1 since i discovered it very early on and i struggled with combat. ||

[neat karma]

Like half of them are mid at their BEST

[lean drum]

why is ||thorns|| actively bad

[idle tiger]

Charms tier list in a nutshell: from A to F

[white lance]

||Joni's blessing is op fr||

[scenic egret]

it increases the time you are unable to do anything after getting hit
in that time, you could have hit the enemy with your nail, dealing more damage

[lean drum]

and also ||dreamshield||

[scenic egret]

its just mid

||shield|| never hurts you unless you plan to abuse iframes

[neat karma]

Or avoid incoming danger*

[thick wing]

Gets rid of a lot of i-frames as well

[white lance]

||I remember they told me to use dream shield against lost kin||

like bro 😭

[scenic egret]

[thick wing]

They did not cook THEY DID NOT COOK

[lean drum]

you can straight up tank ||kin||

its like

charms dont even matter

[scenic egret]

i dont think it even works

[thick wing]

nah

it's so detrimental

[idle tiger]

||A: shaman stone B: spell twister C: Soul Catcher D: thorns of agony E: hiveblood F: DREAMSHIELD OMG I HATE THIS CHARm||

[scenic egret]

try playing it with ||nail 1 and 5 notches||

and almost no upgrades

[idle tiger]

F's in the chat

[white lance]

||sharp shadow it was useful against lost kin ||

[lean drum]

||nail 1 isnt fair||

thats not part of the deal

i said ||no charms||

[gusty magnet]

I kept ||thorns|| the entirety of my first playthrough so I stand by it being a great charm. Play style has changed so I don't use it anymore BUTTTTT

[neat karma]

I used it = good

[idle tiger]

||max nail against bosses that increase hp with nail ugprades is better than nail 0/nail 1 because spell scalings plus most bosses that scale HP are dream warriors anyway so no one cares||

[gusty magnet]

Yeah exactly

[lean drum]

my friend who introduced me to this game struggles with ||nkg|| even now so idfk how im supposed to beat it

[bright sorrel]

u could see how bad it is if u didnt use it

[thick wing]

RIP to cjadaa, got dealt a bad hand in life

[gusty magnet]

My opinion is objectively right ez

[analog roost]

With persistence

[scenic egret]

||i did the boss with these charms(not the ones equipped) and nail 2
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1126698559752896583/Screenshot_2023-07-06_at_7.17.02_PM.png?ex=6636438d&is=6634f20d&hm=6a1e098667d82b1689e09e2c02c4157651ecbb596ffc21c1a597e918fb43508a&||

[white lance]

||was his name Galien?||

[thick wing]

what about him

[scenic egret]

took 50 nail hits to kill the boss

[white lance]

talking about the ||dream warrior in deepnest||

[lean drum]

think so

[gusty magnet]

Ye

[idle tiger]

||my P5 strategy is shaman stone, quick slash, unbreakable strength, grubsong, overcharm with Soul Eater LOL||

[thick wing]

m

[idle tiger]

||Galien? Beat him first try taking 1 hit||

[thick wing]

ain't no way

[white lance]

I remember being lost and finding him there

[idle tiger]

YES WAY

[gusty magnet]

Ain't no way

[idle tiger]

I hate ||nail arts||

[thick wing]

||Overcharming in P5||

[scenic egret]

||overcharm is not recommended, and steady body is very very good with quick slash||

[analog roost]

…you ||overcharm for p5? You trying to beat it hitless?||

[lean drum]

guys should i try to beat ||the GAZZAAAAAA guys in hall of gods|| or ||nkg||

[thick wing]

Blud is out of his damn mind

He was cooked

[white lance]

ye i just cant find him

[lean drum]

just explore the holes

that you havent gone in

[gusty magnet]

Wtf is a gazzaaa guy

[white lance]

I ALREADY EXPLORED THE HOLES.

[lean drum]

the guys that yell GAZZAAAAAA

its in ||p1||

[analog roost]

Follow the ||mushrooms||

[white lance]

the map is full, i just cant remember where is him

[thick wing]

It's more like GASOOOOOOOO

[idle tiger]

||steady body is ass, F tier charm watch any skurry video. also im used to not steady body so it would make everything so hard. plus my playstyle revolves around rushing bosses before i can get hit much, like i killed Grimm before he could do his final Pufferfish||

[wraith sail]

|| the bros ? ||

[lean drum]

thats an A sound at the end

[verbal saffron]

queso 🧀

[gusty magnet]

This actually made me understand

[white lance]

I dont want to get lost again please

[idle tiger]

||compass is like the one charm that goes from a tier to f tier throughout your gameplay||

[analog roost]

Post your ||deepnest map||

[wraith sail]

That is exploring

[scenic egret]

smh just look at room shape

[white lance]

||I remember that I was without the compass charm and I was about to die 5 times from the thorns||

[analog roost]

Possible you missed something

[white lance]

||deepnest ahhh memories||

[idle tiger]

||my deepnest map in my first playthrough: Zote, spiders, weird spider glowing woman (herrah), MORE SPIDERS GAHHH and that mask Maker guy||

Oh and nosk

[white lance]

i cant play without the ||compass||

[idle tiger]

that used to be me

[lean drum]

nicknames ive given to bosses:
||
hornet: shawmaster
grimm: mr circus
oro and mato: gazzaaa guys
broodling mawlek: big spider guy
oloblles: fat guys
||

[idle tiger]

nice

[lean drum]

neither can i

[idle tiger]

my nicknames

[gusty magnet]

Mark spoiler

[analog roost]

You forgot something

[white lance]

It's just my memory

[idle tiger]

||Grimm: circus man
hornet: shaw||

||uumuu: trampoline||

[verbal saffron]

||steady body|| is not a horrible charm, it's just horrible for you (and also me!). It's what we call a "crutch" which technically makes things easier if you're used to it but shouldn't be used for example, ||competitively or in godhome||

[idle tiger]

OH AND MY FAVORITE

[white lance]

||Herrah and the Pale King, i still cant understand how is it possible||

[idle tiger]

||Dung Defender: Poop Knight
White Defender: Glowing Poop Knight with More Health||

[lean drum]

spend 1 notch on a charm that you "have to get used to"

whats the point

[gusty magnet]

Nah ||steady body|| is not a crutch

[idle tiger]

mossbag's hour long lore video

WATCH IT

[gusty magnet]

It just changes your playstyle

[wraith sail]

Its pretty good if you know
Just like with the other playstyles

[proper frost]

||sbody shouldn't be used in godhome?||

[verbal saffron]

there is no point to getting used to it if you aren't already. Some newbies get used to it and have difficulty taking it off.

[analog roost]

If you’re still lost, post your ||deepnest map||

[wraith sail]

Mastering all playstyles is awesome

[analog roost]

You might be overlooking something

[idle tiger]

if your used to it then use it i guess but if not then it kinda ruins playstile

[verbal saffron]

||waste of a notch imo, grubsong/dweilder better||

[wraith sail]

But that happens after pretty much everything

[idle tiger]

||OH YEAH forgot about dreamwielde rthats what i meant to say in my p5 build||

[gusty magnet]

There's a reason ||sbody|| is used in the ||best nail builds||

[wraith sail]

Dps

[gusty magnet]

Exactly

[idle tiger]

Not for me. ||My nail build is unbreakable strength, mark of pride, quickslash, dreamwielder, overcharm with grubberflies||

[proper frost]

Possibly,but it's your opinion
If this charms is good for bosses,how in the world it would be bad in ||godhome||?
And a lot of professional ||godhome|| players will dissagree with you

[gusty magnet]

Plus ||sbody|| is almost necessary to get the most out of ||quickslash||

[idle tiger]

i have to disagree there

[analog roost]

For a ||spell build, yeah||

[gusty magnet]

Why tf are you using ||grubber flies||

[bright sorrel]

||most of the time its for extra control. it rarely gives more damage||

[idle tiger]

||i did testing for like 10 hours and found i do 1.5X LESS DPS WITH QUICKLSLASH AND SBODY COMPARED TO JUST QUICKLSASH||

[verbal saffron]

||I admit, destroys lost kin.||

[idle tiger]

cuz the ||double hits? duh||

[analog roost]

That is a blatant lie

[idle tiger]

nope

i just like learned the game without sbody

[analog roost]

You set aside 10 whole hours for that

[idle tiger]

i didnt know it existed till i had like 85% completion

[idle tiger]

also im a student i spend every night till 11 atleast doing homeowkr

[analog roost]

Again, tags even if abbreviated

[idle tiger]

even on weekends

[bright sorrel]

it definitely is

[idle tiger]

Y'all are not acceptant of other people's playstyles

[bright sorrel]

||stead body does nothing to reduce damage||

[idle tiger]

It's a waste of a notch

F tier charm

Never used it never will

[thick wing]

it's not a playstyle, it's a fact

[gusty magnet]

We aren't saying your playstyle is bad, we're just saying it's objectively a pretty good charm

[bright sorrel]

why are u making up fake evidence to support ur opinion

[idle tiger]

I only used it for that one ||fog canyon room with the notch thats it||

[idle tiger]

im not making up fake evidence

wtf

[analog roost]

…just use ||fireballs there||

If anything

[thick wing]

you said it decreases dps....it doesn't

[verbal saffron]

I know it's my opinion, the charm is just too situational for me and also idk how to use it cuz I never really have and don't want to get stuck with it...

[idle tiger]

and my opinion is that ||sbody|| sucks AM I NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A FUCKING OPINION HERE LIKE

[bright sorrel]

this is blatantly wrong

[idle tiger]

Whatever

I dont care

[bright sorrel]

i dont see why ppl cant have a discussion abt the opinion

[analog roost]

Opinions are fine but you’re lying about what it does

Like, straight up

[idle tiger]

Why do i even join these discords in the first place to talk if no one wants to FUCKING TALK

[thick wing]

Because this is a help channel

[bright sorrel]

everyone wants to talk

[verbal saffron]

me when I talk

[proper frost]

That's true,you're good
I never use it myself tbh

[gusty magnet]

You're 100% allowed to have an opinion, like how I think ||thorns|| is actually good

[scenic egret]

tags

[analog roost]

cmon cj

[thick wing]

c'mon man

[analog roost]

Silly little guy

Use your damn tags!

[bright sorrel]

come on

[analog roost]

There we go!

[gusty magnet]

I'm sorry I failed you all

[scenic egret]

ban

[analog roost]

You’re forgiven brother

[thick wing]

I think we need to sacrifice you so silksong may come

[idle tiger]

||what do you mean ok heres what it does it makes you take no knockback when you hit something with nail yes in my opinion its top 4 single notch charms only behind grubsong dreamweilder and nailmasters glory but its still F teir. all 1 notches besides glory, dreamweilder and grubsong are F tier.||

[last fjord]

||weaversong|| best charm

[idle tiger]

Im ENTITLED to my OWN opinions

[thick wing]

tags

[gusty magnet]

[idle tiger]

I could have come in here and said stuff like ||Dreamshield|| best charm or ||shaman|| sucks but NOOO I said a charm that like 2 PEOPLE USE NORMALLY sucks

Like WHAT???

[verbal saffron]

true (use tags)

[analog roost]

What I meant is that this statement is objectively not true

[last fjord]

WHAT IS TAGS

[bright sorrel]

nobody said u werent. u can dislike it but lying abt what it does is

[analog roost]

Spoiler tags

[verbal saffron]

spoiler tags

[idle tiger]

I GUARENTEE that If i said one of those things that you guys would have said like nothing

[last fjord]

OH

SORRY

[idle tiger]

Oh im sorry it was 9 hours

MY BAD

[verbal saffron]

I'm snail

[analog roost]

ITS OK

DONT WORRY

[last fjord]

DONT THROW ME IN THE ||BIRTHPLACE||

[verbal saffron]

why so much all caps here rn

[idle tiger]

CUZ PEOPLE WILL NOT LET ME HAVE MY OWN OPINION

ON A VERY UNDERUSED CHARM

[thick wing]

ok

[gusty magnet]

It ||removes knock back so you can stay close and aggressive, which makes it great if you are very close with all the boss patterns||

[analog roost]

Idk I was just talking to vee with em

[idle tiger]

ITS UNDERRATED, YES, BUT ITS STILL UNDERUSED

[bright sorrel]

again, that is not what happened

[analog roost]

Seemed fitting

[thick wing]

ok

[verbal saffron]

which charm is it again I want to join

[idle tiger]

||I just use spells anyway||

[bright sorrel]

its not underused

[idle tiger]

||Steady body||

[thick wing]

tags bro

[verbal saffron]

and what's your opinion on it

[thick wing]

he hates it for some reason

[proper frost]

Wich you can do without the charm as well tbh

[idle tiger]

||I gave up a nail only or majority nail playstyle after I rematched Broken Vessel for the billionth time||

[scenic egret]

"testing" is implying that what you are doing is factual
also, every part of this statement makes it seem like youre saying a fact and not an opinion

[gusty magnet]

As said before, there's a reason ||it's used in the pure nail builds|| so def not underused or underrated

[analog roost]

At this point would it be better for the whole thing to go to #hk-discussion or…

[idle tiger]

||Im not even joking, Lost Kin is 10x easier than Broken Vessel what were team chery THINKING???||

[thick wing]

#hk-general

get out of here mans

[analog roost]

Or that

[idle tiger]

ok underused by like casuals

[gusty magnet]

Eh discussions usually die when jumping to another channel I think we're about done here

[idle tiger]

Ok im sorry about that ONE thing but like

[thick wing]

if ya want to continue your goofy aaaa discussions about charms get out here lol

[idle tiger]

Everything after that has been opinion

[thick wing]

True true mhm

[idle tiger]

OK and i will if you guys stop as well

You guys are keeping this argument alive not me

[thick wing]

yeah leave it be guys

[verbal saffron]

ok I thought we were talking about something else now never mind no one is like disallowing you from having an opinion it's just that we're disagreeing. Also I'm not saying your experiment personally was wrong, but it doesn't decrease DMG, especially if you know how to use it

[neat karma]

ok guys yeah yall can stop

[idle tiger]

Ok but like I, personally, do worse without it

[thick wing]

Ismoil could use some help here

[verbal saffron]

that's fine

[idle tiger]

So I consider it a bad charm

[neat karma]

one more message related and i nuke this channel

[idle tiger]

DUDE YOU ARE GANGING UP ON MY LIKE FUCK OFF I WANT TO STOP ARGUING NOW AND YOU GUYS KEE=P FUCKING BRINGING IT UP JUST STOP

[verbal saffron]

is ismoil a mod

[thick wing]

yeah

[gusty magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-5920695394641505768

[idle tiger]

PROBABLY YES

[neat karma]

calm down

[idle tiger]

GREV IS SCAREDY CAT TO CONFRONT ME

[neat karma]

and by replying ot it you are also bringing nit up

[verbal saffron]

mb hi ismoil

[idle tiger]

AND KEEPS RELIGHTING ARGUMENT

[bright sorrel]

u can just stop discussing it or go to a different channel

[idle tiger]

What if I don't want to

[thick wing]

Don't rope me into this

[neat karma]

i can mute you if tahts what you want 💜

[verbal saffron]

mb I'll stop

[thick wing]

I'm just the messenger or smth

[idle tiger]

Literally asked for a mod

OK AND THAT MAKES YOU INNOCENT BUDDY BE QUIET

[neat karma]

im his friend what wrong with that

calm down man

[idle tiger]

Wow

[thick wing]

Yeah ismoil is literally my bestie

[idle tiger]

Just wow

That's abuse

Jsut because you guys are friends doesnt mean i should get muted and not him

THEY WERE NOT ALLOWING ME TO HAVE MY OWN OPINION

[bright sorrel]

did u read what was said

[idle tiger]

THIS IS A SHITTY SERVER

[thick wing]

I didn't do anything....

[neat karma]

you are the one writing in all caps and replying to the convo that should be dead

[idle tiger]

RUN SHITTY

SHITTY PEOPLE

SHITTY OPINIONS

[analog roost]

You are more than welcome to leave if you feel that way

[thick wing]

Literally cotton LMAO

anyways

ismoil do what must be done

[idle tiger]

And you are the idiot mod that threatened to mute me when I'm not the only one

[thick wing]

I'm outta here

[bright sorrel]

u were told that if u continue u would be muted because u were the only one still discussing it

[idle tiger]

OH fuck off bitch mute me and abuse your fucking powers see if i return to this shitshow

[thick wing]

YO LIST NODE

Fancy seeing an og here

[idle tiger]

do i FUCKING CARE

[neat karma]

literally this, others left the discussion when asked

[idle tiger]

Ok

I'll stop

I just want grev to stop instigating as well

[ivory sage]

actually i did testing and ||sbody|| increased my damage by 69% so its top tier even better than ||wayward compass||

[gusty magnet]

Oh no

[idle tiger]

Wow such accurate stats bro

[proper frost]

Let it end pls

[ivory sage]

heyo

[analog roost]

Not the time

[idle tiger]

And ||hiveblood|| is S teir charm like nooo

[neat karma]

also this needs tags

[idle tiger]

Pretty much all charms are useful in niche scenarios

[neat karma]

but eithre way if yall want to discuss it hk off is there

[bright sorrel]

charm discussion never goes well

[idle tiger]

(EXCEPT ||DREAMSHIELD|| AHHHH)

[idle tiger]

I have controversial opinons

[proper frost]

Almost

[thick wing]

I can see that

[lean drum]

https://tenor.com/view/modpurge-gif-26280994

[thick wing]

shoo shoo now

[lean drum]

What he sounds like rn

[gusty magnet]

Dude

[idle tiger]

||Like that nailmasters glory is only low B charm|and thats only because I dont like using Nail Arts I DO ACKNOLADGE that it is good and increases your damage but I just don't like nail arts man||

[bright sorrel]

anyway iirc let the channel die now or something

[idle tiger]

I can't change the keybinds to fit it optimally for me

[neat karma]

Stop it. Move on

[scarlet hull]

Who tf is striker

And why r they mad

[idle tiger]

Brouh i did move on

[thick wing]

leave it be bro

[scarlet hull]

Alright

[analog roost]

Eh don’t worry about it

[neat karma]

Youre still discussing this

[idle tiger]

Who tf is Responsible Person: A responsible person is someone
who meets all the requirements to ride the ride
themselves and is at least 54” tall or taller.

wait oops

[scarlet hull]

54 inches wtf

[idle tiger]

its a different charm ok?

and i calmed down

[scarlet hull]

Convert to centimetres pls

[bright sorrel]

can someone help me with ||radiant marmu||

[neat karma]

This is not the channel for charm discussions which is the point i was trying to bring across earlier

[idle tiger]

Oh

Sorry

[scarlet hull]

Volleyball 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[idle tiger]

Is there a charm discussion.channel?

[neat karma]

Everyone and i mean everyone, please let the chat die until some actual help is needed

[thick wing]

Sure, do you have all charms?

[analog roost]

Ok, you know the sport ||racquetball?||

[neat karma]

Hk disc and hk off

[bright sorrel]

yes

[verbal saffron]

if you really want to say all this about charms go to #hk-general

[scarlet hull]

Volleyball with no opponent frfr

[thick wing]

Nice, I find a combination of nail related charms such as ||quickslash, mark of pride, strength, and steady bodt really help||

[verbal saffron]

||I'm still off topic but racquetball is goated||

[bright sorrel]

wtf thx grev i will try that

[verbal saffron]

[scarlet hull]

||steady body ||

[verbal saffron]

no

[thick wing]

It's about reaction time and direction.

[verbal saffron]

no more of that

[gusty magnet]

Okay on an actual note, anybody have advice on ||absrad all bindings|| cuz like I've done everything else before just not that, or is it all the basic don't be greedy and practice

[bleak gale]

||shriek||

[analog roost]

The second one

[gusty magnet]

Cool that's what I thought

[bleak gale]

||cyclone slash is also decent||

[thick wing]

Don't get hit

[bleak gale]

dont play risky unless you have soul for ||ddark||

[verbal saffron]

clober we need you in hk discuss

[worthy rain]

so i had an idea on what to do about ||the delicate flower quest||
had.

[gusty magnet]

分かった

[scarlet hull]

[proper frost]

No we need clober being nice for once,wich fits here greatly

[verbal saffron]

clober giving blubby nitro iirc /j

[empty jolt]

How do I start the ||Grimm quest||?

[bright sorrel]

its peak

[gusty magnet]

||there's a room somewhere in howling cliffs|| godpseed

[spark yoke]

Go to the ||howling cliffs||

[verbal saffron]

secret place in ||howling cliffs|| <-- exact area but not location

[bright sorrel]

||great slash is also pretty good||

[empty jolt]

Thanks

[spark yoke]

Np

[analog roost]

I was gonna give a pun as a hint

Oh well

[proper frost]

Oh that's a cool way of typing lol

[thick wing]

My h key broke

[shut sparrow]

It's not all that useful but still nice to know that you can ||remove the spikes with shade cloak if you stand close to them||

[spark yoke]

Theres some other good stuff there too

[thick wing]

Nonsenf what are you doing here

[bright sorrel]

its very useful

[gusty magnet]

||dash slash||

[thick wing]

It's 2am for you.

[shut sparrow]

ok it's apparently very useful

[analog roost]

Uh

[shut sparrow]

even better

[gusty magnet]

What

[analog roost]

Wrong one friend

[gusty magnet]

WHAT

[shut sparrow]

stand close to them and then ||dash||

[gusty magnet]

Away or towards

I'm guessing away

[shut sparrow]

towards

[gusty magnet]

WHAT

Bro say psyche rn

[shut sparrow]

they go away if you ||stand inside them. So you use the iframes of the dash to stand inside them but not get hit to make them disappear. Same works with ddark/ddive||

[ember dagger]

havent played the game in a while, but i want to try|| p5 again. so far my best run is failed champion, but im beginning to think my charm bulid might not be the greatest for this, i would entertain suggestions. current bulid is unbreakable strength and heart, quick slash, and mark of pride. thoughts on improving it or should i stick with it||

[gusty magnet]

I gotta practice this now that's immensely helpful

[thick wing]

replace ||mark of pride with shaman stone||

[bright sorrel]

u dont need to rly practice it. its very consistent

[shut sparrow]

but you knew you could do it with a ||dive|| right?

[thick wing]

thank me later

[worthy rain]

basically i heard of this tactic which may be familiar - ||bench warping||
||sitting at one bench, and teleporting to it by going to the main menu and opening the save file again, apparently speedrunners use it to save time||
i think you can see where this was going but the idea was ||to sit at the queen's garden stag station bench, use the stag station to get to the resting grounds, talk to pale mourner and get the flower, exit to menu, return to game at the queen's garden again, and finally carefully place the flower at the grave||
it was not a good idea, nor was it my own, but i've been of the belief of "work smarter, not harder" regardless of how far outside the box you have to go... apparently team cherry must've seen folks like me cheesing it like this cause it didn't work

[gusty magnet]

I knew ||dive||

[bleak gale]

anika stop being short

[analog roost]

Yeah they accounted for that stuff

[bright sorrel]

what

[ember dagger]

i dont think ive ever really used ||spells, so how broken are they?||

[analog roost]

You should

[gusty magnet]

They also accounted for ||inter dimensional travel||

[bright sorrel]

clober iirc ur bald

[proper frost]

Quite a lot.

[bleak gale]

good damage good range removes a heal tho depends on your build

[analog roost]

I wager that lack of ||spell usage is why you’re stalling on progress||

[shut sparrow]

||heart is fine but there are better options. I would use steady body and grubsong/glory or something like twister, catcher if you don't like sbody. Mark of pride is also not that great. I would either use qfocus or shaman stone instead||

Wait grev already answered

[proper frost]

So snail of you,gn nonsenf

[analog roost]

Takes a lot more than 2 cooks to spoil a dish, don’t worry

[shut sparrow]

gn roma

[analog roost]

Besides you added something

[gusty magnet]

I'll be the third and spoil it dw

||dish||

[thick wing]

Bruh you added a lot more you're not a snail smh

[analog roost]

I’m out

[thick wing]

You're a cat

[shut sparrow]

thank you

[proper frost]

You still should sleep

[thick wing]

Like the "mrrp meow mrrow uwu meow nya :3~~" type