#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 538

vocal spire Oct 24, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Wow again

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Right after a mod ping

wary rose Oct 24, 2021, 6:44 PM

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it never ends

fast willow Oct 24, 2021, 6:44 PM

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mods faster than the mod ping

wary rose Oct 24, 2021, 6:44 PM

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yeah because I went here to count my pings as read and there was another one zote

rough pulsar Oct 24, 2021, 9:32 PM

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but will bots be faster than the bot ping?

jolly oriole Oct 25, 2021, 10:31 AM

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<@&283547423706447872>

rough pulsar Oct 25, 2021, 7:28 PM

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<@&283547423706447872>

marsh spade Oct 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Is there a good tutorial for noob hk developers?

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bc I'm pretty new to modding, and I'm not sure where to start.

young walrus Oct 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs

marsh spade Oct 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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thanks

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Is there a different page/section on this page for how to change textures in general?

young walrus Oct 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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no

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you can reference other mods that change assets

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customknight, transtrans, etc

marsh spade Oct 25, 2021, 8:44 PM

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I couldn't figure out how to extract .dll and .pdb

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Is it because I'm on mac, or is there a specific program I'm missing?

young walrus Oct 25, 2021, 8:45 PM

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??

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just look at the source code

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it's on github

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and to write mods you need an IDE program

marsh spade Oct 25, 2021, 8:46 PM

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oh

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May I ask where on github?

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I apologize for my ignorance

young walrus Oct 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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github.com/PrashantMohta/HollowKnight.CustomKnight/

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is the current one

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for 1.4.3.2

marsh spade Oct 25, 2021, 8:50 PM

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thank you so much

crimson bronze Oct 25, 2021, 10:47 PM

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What best mod

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Just wondering

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Hello
https://radiance.host/apidocs/EditScene.html
I'm going to modify Halloween Night by referring to this site.
But I don't know what to do.

GameManager not have instance
and
not have SceneLoadInfo
So I don't know what to do.
If someone knows this, please help me.

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primal latch Oct 26, 2021, 7:51 AM

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@crystal basin you’ll have to reference UnityEngine.SceneManagement.dll

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 9:32 AM

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I'm sorry. I uploaded the wrong image.

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Game manager doesn't have Instance.

rough pulsar Oct 26, 2021, 9:39 AM

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are you using Modding;?

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oh wait

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hmm

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 9:58 AM

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How can I put the modding API?

vocal spire Oct 26, 2021, 10:15 AM

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crystal basin How can I put the modding API?

The ModdingApi is usually automatically installed by using a mod installer. In the case of using mod installer 2 search for ModdingApi in the mods list and either check the installed? box or if it’s checked click the orange box next to it that says out of date. Also questions like this don’t seem to relate to making mods so it belongs in #archived-modding-help

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Wow fast mods

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 10:16 AM

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lol

mystic nymph Oct 26, 2021, 11:18 AM

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from which library/import can I use this line (the On.) ? https://github.com/fifty-six/HollowKnight.RandomizedPantheons/blob/e599da32e14ad4294de90c8056cff06af580308b/RandomPantheons/RandomPantheons.cs#L51

steady comet Oct 26, 2021, 11:20 AM

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You need a reference to MMHOOK_Assembly-CSharp.dll (or something like that), which gets installed as part of the modding API. Then it should work

mystic nymph Oct 26, 2021, 11:37 AM

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ho nice ty

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 2:54 PM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/EditScene.html

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I used modding,

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but GameManager not have instance

steady comet Oct 26, 2021, 2:56 PM

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If you're in visual studio, start typing GameManager.instance and it should pop up with useful suggestions

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 2:57 PM

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I've tried it.

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by the way not have BeginSceneTransition and SceneLoadInfo

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Do I need another using?

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using UnityEngine.SceneManagement;

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This isn't right.

steady comet Oct 26, 2021, 3:05 PM

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You don't need any using

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As long as you have a reference to assembly-csharp

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 3:16 PM

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What assembly-csharp should I refer to?

steady comet Oct 26, 2021, 3:17 PM

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The modded one

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 3:17 PM

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ok

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 4:18 PM

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I knew the problem. Unity Ripper is not good at interpreting dll.

vocal spire Oct 26, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Are you modding in the unity project given by utiny?

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 4:19 PM

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yes

vocal spire Oct 26, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Don’t do that

crystal basin Oct 26, 2021, 4:19 PM

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okey

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I realized it wasn't a good thing.

vocal spire Oct 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Make a separate project for it in visual studio, if you need to use scripts in the editor build the project with stuff that doesn’t depend on hollow knight’s or the ModdingApi’s code and drop the dll file in the unity project

terse elm Oct 26, 2021, 5:44 PM

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I'm trying to use Hollow Knight Sprite Packer to edit the main character's sprites, I'm working on the running animation, and despite Sprite Packer telling me the animation is working smoothly by the preview, it seems to be missing a frame, If anyone know which frame and in what clipset it is, that would be much appreciated.

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(vid for reference)

radiant basin Oct 26, 2021, 5:59 PM

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terse elm I'm trying to use Hollow Knight Sprite Packer to edit the main character's sprit...

i think the frame is the last one in 006 slash

terse elm Oct 26, 2021, 6:16 PM

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That was it, cheers!

jolly jungle Oct 26, 2021, 6:30 PM

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woah what's this thing

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thats spritepacker??

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god I need to get that at some point

mystic nymph Oct 26, 2021, 6:36 PM

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It throws this error when I try to Log an int (Log("" + 3.ToString()) for example)

[ERROR]:[API] - System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'System.Runtime, Version=5.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its dependencies.
[ERROR]:[API] - File name: 'System.Runtime, Version=5.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a'
[ERROR]:[API] -   at Modding.ModHooks.OnTakeHealth (System.Int32 damage) [0x00030] in <2b54cdaf7a934f0eb297d50c4090ea9f>:0

light zodiac Oct 26, 2021, 6:56 PM

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someone had this error before

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i think the solution was to uninstall and reinstall the game

mystic nymph Oct 26, 2021, 7:07 PM

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same

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2021, 7:21 PM

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uh

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you're supposed to target .net framework 4.7.2

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not .net (core) 5

rough pulsar Oct 26, 2021, 7:22 PM

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@mystic nymph Read above

mystic nymph Oct 26, 2021, 7:24 PM

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ok ty

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so this is wrong ?

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2021, 7:38 PM

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yes

mystic nymph Oct 26, 2021, 7:39 PM

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I installed .NET framework 4.7.2 but it is not in the list

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2021, 7:40 PM

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it's a seperate project type likely, idk what that ui is from, but if visual studio, it's the project type Class Library (.NET Framework)

mystic nymph Oct 26, 2021, 7:40 PM

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ho ok

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I was in .NET / .NET Core

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:27 AM

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I added an external dependency (System.Windows.Forms.dll), but it won't work (in runtime) until I put it to the Managed folder. But this means users will have to add it too, will they have to download it or it will be added automatically ?

worn eagle Oct 27, 2021, 11:39 AM

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why are you integrating winforms in a mod

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:39 AM

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to trigger keyboard keys

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especially to trigger HitCounterManager https://github.com/topeterk/HitCounterManager

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anyway I get this error in runtime System.TypeLoadException: VTable setup of type System.Windows.Forms.SendKeys+SKWindow failed 😔

modern star Oct 27, 2021, 11:40 AM

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You could use a Unity Monobehaviour for keyboard input

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:41 AM

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will not it only trigger ingame inputs ?

modern star Oct 27, 2021, 11:42 AM

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As long as the application is running, you can have inputs be registered any time as far as I know

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:42 AM

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imma test this out

modern star Oct 27, 2021, 11:42 AM

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https://github.com/syyePhenomenol/HollowKnight.RandoMapMod/blob/master/HollowKnight.RandoMap/InputListener.cs here's something I used if you want a reference

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:43 AM

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well I don't want to listen to inputs tho

modern star Oct 27, 2021, 11:43 AM

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oh sorry, I misinterpreted

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why does the input have to go through keyboard and not directly to the game?

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:45 AM

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I want to trigger another program (with keyboard keys like CTRL+A) from an ingame event

modern star Oct 27, 2021, 11:47 AM

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So from what I understand, you have to have a separate running program and not an in-game mod?

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:48 AM

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game -> game event -> detected by mod -> mod press key -> detected by other program

modern star Oct 27, 2021, 11:55 AM

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Okay in that case, you could probably add System.Windows.Forms.dll to the same directory as your mod.dll

Scarab should automatically unpack and install everything into that folder

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But I would be curious to see if you can interface with HitCounterManager in another way... I have no idea

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:57 AM

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i'm trying to use HitCounterManager as a first implementation, I will try to add an ingame UI after

modern star Oct 27, 2021, 11:58 AM

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mystic nymph i'm trying to use HitCounterManager as a first implementation, I will try to add...

imo you might find it is easier to just make the in-game implementation in the first place

light zodiac Oct 27, 2021, 11:58 AM

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What are you trying to make?

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:58 AM

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PantheonHitCounter mod

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:59 AM

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modern star imo you might find it is easier to just make the in-game implementation in the f...

if the SendKeys was working it would be done already

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646987357781884948/902324610312339516/hit_counter.png

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did this in HitCounterManager yet

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but it's annoying to press keys when you get hit / go to next boss 😓

light zodiac Oct 27, 2021, 12:01 PM

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Maybe livesplit like code could be used

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Cuz it can detect in-game things while being external program

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 12:02 PM

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i will take a look

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 12:05 PM

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modern star why does the input have to go through keyboard and not directly to the game?

it works thx, but is there a way to hide the api error (cuz it can't load the library as a mod) ?

modern star Oct 27, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Not that I know of grubsad

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 12:12 PM

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adding System.Windows.Forms.dll to Managed folder + adding file reference from Manager folder won't fix fleacrying

light zodiac Oct 27, 2021, 12:13 PM

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hollow knight drpc does something like that

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adds them as embeded resource i think

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https://github.com/KaanGaming/HollowKnightDRPC

worn eagle Oct 27, 2021, 12:36 PM

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you'd have to modify one of the jsons in managed, RuntimeSerialization or something

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 12:40 PM

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this ? (ModdingApi.GlobalSettings.json)

{
  "ModEnabledSettings": {},
  "LoggingLevel": 2,
  "ConsoleSettings": {
    "UseLogColors": false,
    "FineColor": "grey",
    "InfoColor": "white",
    "DebugColor": "white",
    "WarningColor": "yellow",
    "ErrorColor": "red",
    "DefaultColor": "white"
  },
  "ShowDebugLogInGame": true,
  "PreloadBatchSize": 5
}

worn eagle Oct 27, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Managed

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 12:49 PM

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there is no json in Managed

steady comet Oct 27, 2021, 12:50 PM

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light zodiac Maybe livesplit like code could be used

Looking at livesplit code is a bad idea makerS

worn eagle Oct 27, 2021, 12:50 PM

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oh, hollow_knight_Data

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 12:51 PM

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worn eagle oh, hollow_knight_Data

then what do I do with that ?

worn eagle Oct 27, 2021, 12:53 PM

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add the dlls you put in Managed below where all the other dlls are listed

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and whatever value most of the others are in the json below that

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might be 2

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obviously this is gonna be very difficult to distribute

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 12:54 PM

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fleacrying

worn eagle Oct 27, 2021, 12:57 PM

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and the changes are permanent until you verify integrity

light zodiac Oct 27, 2021, 1:06 PM

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steady comet Looking at livesplit code is a bad idea <:makerS:715477746746392587>

info program does that too

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~~atleast its an idea~~

steady comet Oct 27, 2021, 1:09 PM

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true

floral blade Oct 27, 2021, 1:11 PM

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~~ just ship a tcp server with your mod and have the external program connect to it ~~

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 1:14 PM

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lurkersweat

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:19 PM

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I want to save some data (which are not settings), can I use IGlobalSettings or is there another simple way ?

steady comet Oct 27, 2021, 2:22 PM

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IGlobalSettings: save data that doesn't depend on the file
ILocalSettings: save data that's different for each file

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The best way would be to do one of those

light zodiac Oct 27, 2021, 2:37 PM

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or you can use newtonsoft.json to serialize to file yourself

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:38 PM

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by following what you said, I have a json file with a few const data, instead of doing a class/enum. can it be in the mod folder without any problem (publishing case) ?

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the mod already read/load it, i'm just wondering if the final zip can contains it

light zodiac Oct 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

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so your saying you'll add this json in the zip with the dll?

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

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yep

light zodiac Oct 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

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shouldnt be problem

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

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wait

light zodiac Oct 27, 2021, 2:43 PM

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most mods come with readmes anyways

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2021, 3:18 PM

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Brb putting a trojan as a hk mod

floral blade Oct 27, 2021, 3:53 PM

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jolly oriole Brb putting a trojan as a hk mod

Did u miss the time I suggested this mod that downloaded a mod and loaded it ?

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2021, 4:00 PM

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🙄

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an actual tojan

vocal spire Oct 27, 2021, 4:42 PM

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<@&283547423706447872>

tulip jewel Oct 27, 2021, 5:36 PM

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pov: mod channel

floral blade Oct 27, 2021, 5:39 PM

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so you didn't really miss it mastersmirk

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 8:08 PM

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grubomg

mystic nymph Oct 27, 2021, 11:04 PM

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idk why I can't load settings, I can only write them with default values from the Settings class

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namespace PantheonHitCounter
{
    public class PantheonHitCounter : Mod, ILocalSettings<LocalSettings>
    {
        private LocalSettings _settings = new LocalSettings();
        public void OnLoadLocal(LocalSettings settings) => _settings = settings;
        public LocalSettings OnSaveLocal() => _settings;
    ...
    }
}

namespace PantheonHitCounter
{
    [Serializable]
    public class LocalSettings
    {
        public PantheonSettings[] pantheons = {};
    }
    
    [Serializable]
    public class PantheonSettings
    {
        public int number;
        public BossSettings[] bosses = {};
        public int totalHits = -1;

        public PantheonSettings(int pantheonNumber) => number = pantheonNumber;
    }
    ...
}

modern star Oct 28, 2021, 1:26 AM

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Is it possibly because your LocalSettings is private?
Possibly try using a dictionary instead, in case the array can't be serialized for some reason?

unborn flicker Oct 28, 2021, 1:31 AM

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It's because the parameters of the only constructor of the class PantheonSettings do not match its fields.

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Json will only invoke a constructor if it can match arguments with serialized fields or properties by name.

light zodiac Oct 28, 2021, 2:09 AM

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modern star Is it possibly because your LocalSettings is private? Possibly try using a dicti...

A list more comparable array than dict

light zodiac Oct 28, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Like list<PantheonSettings> is more comparable to PantheonSettings []
Than Dictionary<int,(bossSettings,totalHits)>

modern star Oct 28, 2021, 2:35 AM

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yeah I get you, you're absolutely right

light zodiac Oct 28, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Also if you change to lists you'll also have to change the BossSetting[] bosses to List<BossSetting> bosses

grand apex Oct 29, 2021, 4:10 AM

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what the-

candid glen Oct 29, 2021, 10:01 AM

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i wanna recommend some new mods to be added:
hk but you lose 10 geo every second. game over at 0.
hk charmlocke (every charm is fragile + randomise a charm build for every new area)
hk but your nail has durability and can be upgraded/broken.
Hollow Knight but the abilities gets locked/unlocked at random every minute/3 mins. (stil don't know much about this)

modern star Oct 29, 2021, 10:07 AM

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candid glen i wanna recommend some new mods to be added: hk but you lose 10 geo every second...

#modding-discussion was the right channel for mod suggestions

first one sounds good but I'd probably change it to 1 geo a second, so for a 2 hour run that's already an extra 7200 geo you'd need to get

candid glen Oct 29, 2021, 10:18 AM

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ah whoops sorry

ornate nacelle Oct 29, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Hey I've got an idea but I can't seem to find the files containing the text

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I know it's EN_*.txt but I can't seem to find anything in resources.

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I'm about to busy for the next 30 minutes to an hour so if you know anything please mention me

rough pulsar Oct 29, 2021, 2:40 PM

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@ornate nacelle #archived-modding-development message

ornate nacelle Oct 29, 2021, 2:53 PM

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rough pulsar <@!264095523189948417> https://discord.com/channels/283467363729408000/327461802...

Thanks much

rough pulsar Oct 29, 2021, 5:07 PM

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this was a mistake.

ornate nacelle Oct 29, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Hey back yet again

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I'm having another problem with text

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public string LanguageGet(string key, string sheet){ if(key == "CTRL_NO_ACTIVE"){ return "No controller dumbass"; } return Language.GetInternal(key, sheet); }
I'm following the modding api docs and this is what it says I should put when trying to add text

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The problem is that it won't build the .dll because "GetInternal" doesn't exist in namespace "Language"

worn eagle Oct 29, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Language.Language.GetInternal

ornate nacelle Oct 29, 2021, 8:11 PM

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That worked, thanks!

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2021, 2:02 PM

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funny

vocal spire Oct 31, 2021, 2:10 PM

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???????

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Oh

light zodiac Oct 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Noooo

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Make it one long

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Instead of 2 half

floral blade Oct 31, 2021, 3:36 PM

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This seems so cursed

eternal ibex Oct 31, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Guys is there a mod that lets u dash upwards

primal latch Oct 31, 2021, 6:41 PM

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@eternal ibex wrong channel

eternal ibex Oct 31, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Ok sry

mystic nymph Oct 31, 2021, 9:55 PM

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how could I get these sprites ?

languid goblet Oct 31, 2021, 10:41 PM

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#art-discussion pins

mystic nymph Oct 31, 2021, 11:44 PM

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ho ty 🤍

blazing mural Nov 1, 2021, 10:39 AM

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alright so im in vs code with ultrads code trying to update it to 1.5 myself

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but im not quite sure what needs to be changed exactly

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is it a revamp of the code? or a few incompatibility issues?

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also i think im missing an api or something

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alright yeah i kinda need help understanding where to get this api or whatever it is because theres stuff missing apparently, other than that i can kind of understand whats going on, but i dont know what needs to change still

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would appreciate little bitty of help.. pls

proven cipher Nov 1, 2021, 11:12 AM

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blazing mural would appreciate little bitty of help.. pls

https://discord.gg/VDsg3HmWuB

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2021, 5:09 PM

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jolly oriole funny

Why do you do up to 17?

jolly oriole Nov 1, 2021, 5:21 PM

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funny

fair rampart Nov 1, 2021, 9:12 PM

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how do i mod hk

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nvm

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ill ask in discord

vocal spire Nov 1, 2021, 9:13 PM

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…this is discord

fair rampart Nov 1, 2021, 9:13 PM

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the hk modded one

vocal spire Nov 1, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Alright

fair rampart Nov 1, 2021, 9:14 PM

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yea nvm

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how do i mod hk

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is there like a tutorial

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i know some c#

vocal spire Nov 1, 2021, 9:14 PM

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I suggest going to the modding discord for that

fair rampart Nov 1, 2021, 9:14 PM

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ight

vocal spire Nov 1, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Has a channel full of that stuff iirc

proven cipher Nov 2, 2021, 9:50 AM

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<@&283547423706447872>

rough pulsar Nov 2, 2021, 2:39 PM

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jolly oriole funny

Wtf is this sfg

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Cool variables

patent cedar Nov 3, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Hi, can i make hk skins drawing with a mouse? bc i think i cant draw the small borders
bc of the pressure

marble hollow Nov 3, 2021, 9:29 PM

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<@&283547423706447872>

hardy stump Nov 4, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Parasite Balloons in the Broken Vessel and Lost Kin fights spawn with 1 health until you damage them. Then, clones of the Parasite Balloons that you've already killed spawn with negative health equal to 1 minus the damage you dealt. It's kind of funny that with a 0-damage nail, you can't kill the balloons with the nail unless you've already previously killed them by some other means.

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this is surprisingly very relevant to the mod i'm making

limber storm Nov 4, 2021, 1:31 AM

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So I'm looking at Relic Seeker Lemm in Ruins1_05b and if you have no relics the dialogue RELICDEALER_NO_RELICS is played. However, I don't actually see that in the Relic Dealer-Conversation Control FSM and in the Shop Menu-shop_control FSM, it looks like the dialogue RELICDEALER_NO_RELICS_2 should be used instead.
Basically, why doesn't RELICDEALER_NO_RELICS_2 happen and where does RELICDEALER_NO_RELICS actually get called? Did I just misread or misunderstand something in the FSMs or dialogue files?

These are what I have for them, btw:

<entry name="RELICDEALER_NO_RELICS_2">Not carrying any relics with you? Go find some for me. I'll pay good Geo for nice items.</entry>
<entry name="RELICDEALER_NO_RELICS">Hm. Looks like you don't have any relics on you. If you manage to find any in good condition, bring them to me and I'll give you a fair amount of Geo for them.</entry>

unborn flicker Nov 4, 2021, 4:00 AM

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The part you're looking at in shop_control selects dialogue when you sell your last relic to Lemm and the shop window closes. The other line is played from Shop Region when you talk to Lemm with no relics.

limber storm Nov 4, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Thanks for the explanation!

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Welp, I just sold my last Relic to him and it played RELICDEALER_NO_RELICS; guess I'll investigate more

jolly jungle Nov 4, 2021, 7:35 PM

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hardy stump this is surprisingly very relevant to the mod i'm making

hornetsip shroompog

drifting brook Nov 4, 2021, 11:43 PM

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why do you (whoever did) bundle the PDB with scarab?

proven cipher Nov 4, 2021, 11:44 PM

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PDB?

drifting brook Nov 4, 2021, 11:45 PM

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Program Debug Database

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it means they're not using debug/release in their build pipeline, or don't have it configured properly

merry lotus Nov 5, 2021, 12:56 AM

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drifting brook why do you (whoever did) bundle the PDB with scarab?

You'll probably want to ask on GitHub.
The creator is not longer on this server.

eager oracle Nov 5, 2021, 6:10 AM

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looking for big mods or good overhauls

rough pulsar Nov 5, 2021, 5:14 PM

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eager oracle looking for big mods or good overhauls

W f........ Banned forever for asking mod recommendations on #archived-modding-development

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Grubbong

primal latch Nov 6, 2021, 10:01 AM

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<@&283547423706447872>

steady comet Nov 6, 2021, 11:02 AM

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<@&283547423706447872>

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😤

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(thanks)

rough pulsar Nov 6, 2021, 11:03 AM

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once the message gets deleted in #hk-discussion it gets deleted in every channel as well

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and the mods get pinged in #hk-discussion before #archived-modding-development anyways

steady comet Nov 6, 2021, 11:03 AM

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rough pulsar and the mods get pinged in <#283680756159741953> before <#327461802311155714> an...

IDK it's fun to get the ping in though

rough pulsar Nov 6, 2021, 11:03 AM

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ok fair

steady comet Nov 6, 2021, 11:03 AM

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I, uhh, don't check outside the modding-related channels either

rough pulsar Nov 6, 2021, 11:03 AM

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even more fun to get the bots ping in

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(i check both this channel and hk discussion like, always)

cedar hemlock Nov 6, 2021, 11:05 AM

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I was earlier in #hk-help 😤

rough pulsar Nov 6, 2021, 11:06 AM

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cedar hemlock I was earlier in <#349116318865424384> 😤

how to defeat radiant aboslute radince \🥺

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definitely related to the topic of this channel

solemn oxide Nov 6, 2021, 1:45 PM

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step 2. You see a youtube video telling you how to git gud to beat absolute radiance

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step 4. You quit trying

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step 6. you play silksong

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step 8. You do a little trolling and get mod that makes you invincible and you defeat absolute radiance

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step 10. You play amongus

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step 12. you touch grass

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step 16. you finally defeat absolute radiance and you become C H A D gamer

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step 18. I don't know what is anyrad

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step 20. My fingers die from typing steps

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Secret step. you speedrun entire game under 1 hour

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yes

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Just wrote 21 steps because we skipped step 14

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yes

rough pulsar Nov 6, 2021, 2:44 PM

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guys we are in #archived-modding-development

light zodiac Nov 6, 2021, 7:10 PM

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rough pulsar how to defeat radiant aboslute radince \🥺

You're in modding channel so correct response is make mod that makes abs rad health very low ||or just use debug ez||

jolly oriole Nov 6, 2021, 7:11 PM

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rough pulsar guys we are in <#327461802311155714>

@clever crow no need to click the reaction repeatedly

clever crow Nov 6, 2021, 7:11 PM

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ok

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it wont stop

jolly oriole Nov 6, 2021, 7:12 PM

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light zodiac You're in modding channel so correct response is make mod that makes abs rad hea...

like a very low 13337 hp or smth

light zodiac Nov 6, 2021, 8:47 PM

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palehmm

vocal spire Nov 6, 2021, 8:47 PM

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🤔

green quail Nov 7, 2021, 10:24 AM

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Hello! I joined this server a long time ago, and yet haven’t chat with anyone here haha

I wanted to ask: Is there a way to create your own npc + location and add it to the game?

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beastcry

primal latch Nov 7, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Yes there is

green quail Nov 7, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Do you know how to do that?

primal latch Nov 7, 2021, 11:02 AM

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The modding docs would be a good way to start

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.

green quail Nov 7, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Hmm
Alright I’ll look at them! Thank you)

jolly oriole Nov 7, 2021, 11:05 AM

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green quail Hello! I joined this server a long time ago, and yet haven’t chat with anyone he...

have fun

green quail Nov 7, 2021, 11:07 AM

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Woah, such chaos! I’ll need a lot of time to understand how everything works
I’m not really good at programming, so it will be even more difficult 🤔

cedar hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:37 PM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs is a bit outdated, but is easier to understand when starting out

steady comet Nov 7, 2021, 1:39 PM

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My impression is that apidocs is supposed to be more of a guide/help whereas the hk-modding github is just documentation

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I may be wrong

rough pulsar Nov 7, 2021, 1:39 PM

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cedar hemlock <https://radiance.host/apidocs> is a bit outdated, but is easier to understand w...

Unfinished pages grublaugh

cedar hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:40 PM

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a bit outdated

rough pulsar Nov 7, 2021, 2:30 PM

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zote

jolly oriole Nov 7, 2021, 2:34 PM

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https://github.com/SalehAce1/HK-Modding-API-Docs pr them

light zodiac Nov 7, 2021, 3:05 PM

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SFCore in new API docs when

steady comet Nov 7, 2021, 3:30 PM

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~~SFCore~~ mods should ship with their own documentation

rough pulsar Nov 7, 2021, 3:54 PM

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steady comet ~~SFCore~~ mods should ship with their own documentation

what if the dll itself has already documentation itself (via /// garmond )

merry lotus Nov 7, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Eh, that's not really the same thing.
That's certainly a good start though, but if that's the only documentation then the ReadMe should probably link to the GitHub and state that.

steady comet Nov 7, 2021, 4:04 PM

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rough pulsar what if the dll itself has already documentation itself (via /// <:garmond:54735...

Yeah, if the mod has documentation like that, you need to ship the .xml file so the ide has access to it (I think you also need to configure the csproj so the xml file is generated)

rough pulsar Nov 7, 2021, 4:11 PM

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ohhh

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ook

jolly oriole Nov 7, 2021, 4:35 PM

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steady comet Yeah, if the mod has documentation like that, you need to ship the .xml file so ...

damn

vocal spire Nov 7, 2021, 6:15 PM

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green quail Hello! I joined this server a long time ago, and yet haven’t chat with anyone he...

I can help ya out with creating a new npc if you need since I’ve done it before

green quail Nov 7, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Omg really! I’ll ask for your help for sure then! ✨
As for now I gotta finish some other projects, and then I’ll start drawing for HK again!

mellow glen Nov 7, 2021, 6:30 PM

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i just finished making a mod

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and you might say well what is this mod

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what does it change

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and what i say to that is

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green quail Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 PM

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AAHHAHH

mellow glen Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 PM

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thats dashmaster now

green quail Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Sans but he’s not smiling

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:D👌

mellow glen Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 PM

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hes just had a bad time

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in hollow knight

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pun intended

green quail Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 PM

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fleavil

eternal ibex Nov 8, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Can someone tell how to make the knight dash upwards
Can someone here do a mod that lets u dash upwards on the charm that lets u dash downward?

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Idk how to code but if u know, do it or tell me how

tulip jewel Nov 8, 2021, 3:55 AM

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sans charm should let you dash upwards

frigid phoenix Nov 8, 2021, 4:19 AM

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I was just taking a gander at some source code, just to see how much I can learn from another mod. What is Ref.GM and or, what lib does it come from?

steady comet Nov 8, 2021, 4:24 AM

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Which mod's source code were you looking at?

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In general if you're not sure, you can try to look at the usings at the top of the file for ideas

frigid phoenix Nov 8, 2021, 4:27 AM

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I was looking at rando, in particular the way that they made stag stations open constantly, rather the bell is always there (so that you can access dirtmouth stag check when stags are randomized). Thought I'd start with some small part of a mod that I'm looking to learn how it functions

steady comet Nov 8, 2021, 4:29 AM

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Right - rando references serecore, so it'll be in there https://github.com/seresharp/HollowKnight.SereCore/blob/master/Ref.cs#L71

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(If you open the code in an IDE like visual studio, you can also hover over the thing and it'll show you where it comes from)

frigid phoenix Nov 8, 2021, 4:31 AM

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fair, but I was just taking a cursory glance at it. I've been looking to get into Hollow Knight Modding for a while now and I just don't know where to start, there being no documentation and all (afaik)

steady comet Nov 8, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Yeah there's not super good documentation but it's there. I'd recommend
https://radiance.host/apidocs/index.html - old docs for 1.4, not really complete
https://hk-modding.github.io/api/api/index.html - docs for 1.5, but they're mostly auto-generated from code documentation
https://github.com/homothetyhk/HollowKnight.InfiniteNotches/blob/master/InfiniteNotches/InfiniteNotches.cs - a good example mod

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There's also a (unofficial) modding discord - dwarfwoot (posted in here about 20 messages ago) has an invite link in their discord bio

frigid phoenix Nov 8, 2021, 4:35 AM

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oh cool

light zodiac Nov 8, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Oops

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Wrong chat

eternal ibex Nov 8, 2021, 5:16 AM

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@tulip jewel cant tell if you're joking or not

tulip jewel Nov 8, 2021, 5:17 AM

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eternal ibex <@321112272556785664> cant tell if you're joking or not

it’d be super amusing but probably causes issues

eternal ibex Nov 8, 2021, 5:18 AM

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What u talking about

tulip jewel Nov 8, 2021, 5:18 AM

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you pinged me

eternal ibex Nov 8, 2021, 5:18 AM

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Firemoth lets u dash upwards

tulip jewel Nov 8, 2021, 5:18 AM

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tulip jewel sans charm should let you dash upwards

assumedly about this

tulip jewel Nov 8, 2021, 5:19 AM

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eternal ibex Firemoth lets u dash upwards

epic

steady comet Nov 8, 2021, 5:34 AM

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eternal ibex Firemoth lets u dash upwards

do you mean blackmoth

eternal ibex Nov 8, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Ye

vocal spire Nov 8, 2021, 4:07 PM

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eternal ibex Firemoth lets u dash upwards

Very different mod lol

primal latch Nov 8, 2021, 5:09 PM

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eternal ibex Firemoth lets u dash upwards

Interesting. Didn’t know we added that feature.

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 7:25 AM

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can someone please put a mod together for me where THK does only the jellybean explosion attack, and at the random positions they normally spawn? ill pay money for it.

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i pretty much need it for hitless practice

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to help me telegraph the move and boost my survivability against it.

proven cipher Nov 9, 2021, 9:43 AM

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?guides I believe Fireborn's any% speedrun guide literally covers this attack, FWIW.

finite forumBOT Nov 9, 2021, 9:43 AM

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https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 12:26 PM

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proven cipher ?guides I believe Fireborn's any% speedrun guide literally covers this attack, F...

from what i remember it only covers one position

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pretty much all the guides ive read only cover the center position 😰

proven cipher Nov 9, 2021, 1:05 PM

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It's the same no matter what

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The pattern coming out is always the same

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 1:57 PM

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im fairly certain when theyre to the right hand side of the arena its a different pattern. i got hit like 3-4 times each time compared to almost never getting hit when theyre in the center

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if it were the same pattern, wouldnt it be possible to memorize?

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 2:05 PM

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proven cipher ?guides I believe Fireborn's any% speedrun guide literally covers this attack, F...

also just went through every guide by them and didnt see a single sign of that so idk

proven cipher Nov 9, 2021, 3:01 PM

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https://youtu.be/rnLiOIWrQys 10:05

YouTube

fireb0rn

Hollow Knight - Any% NMG Speedrun Tutorial - Part 10: The Hollow Kn...

This part highlights the route to The Hollow Knight and the boss fight itself.

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkLKB8O1Ff0-AApWYqqgFjMcMMVaW_JH
Setup Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-aCaVTAUtc
Speedrun.com Guides: https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides
Hollow Knight Discord: https://discord.gg/hollowknight

fireb...

▶ Play video

rough pulsar Nov 9, 2021, 3:26 PM

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@lucid needle

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Be sure to ping them as well lol

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 3:43 PM

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rough pulsar <@!226166956548554752>

why are you being so damn annoying

rough pulsar Nov 9, 2021, 3:44 PM

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In case if you didn't see it zote zote zote zote

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 3:45 PM

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i did. i didnt need you to ping me.

rough pulsar Nov 9, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Damn ok

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Have a nice day

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 3:45 PM

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u2

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 3:46 PM

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proven cipher https://youtu.be/rnLiOIWrQys 10:05

anyway, thank you

merry lotus Nov 9, 2021, 3:55 PM

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link posted with no response for 30 minutes
Kaan adds a ping to ensure visability

why are you being so damn annoying [...] I did [see it].

Jeez Kaan. How could you commit such heinous crimes. Pinging someone so that they don't miss something when they don't give an indication that they saw it. You monster zote

worn eagle Nov 9, 2021, 4:06 PM

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dwarf why are you being so damn annoying

jolly oriole Nov 9, 2021, 4:16 PM

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official pings bad squad

rough pulsar Nov 9, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Cry about it

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 4:23 PM

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i mean that wasnt the first time they were annoying towards me

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not even the first time today.

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you eventually get fed up with problematic behavior. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

jolly oriole Nov 9, 2021, 4:25 PM

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take that to modmail then

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thats what its for

rough pulsar Nov 9, 2021, 4:26 PM

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I guess i can apologize

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Unless you're insisting on reporting me

lucid needle Nov 9, 2021, 4:28 PM

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i didnt care enough to tell mods. i simply said it was annoying and blocked them.

rough pulsar Nov 9, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Alright

jolly oriole Nov 9, 2021, 4:39 PM

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now i understand 56

viscid siren Nov 9, 2021, 4:58 PM

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hollowknice

proven cipher Nov 9, 2021, 4:59 PM

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viscid siren <:hollowknice:300572689616076801>

Just to check, do you actually need these pings when it happens?

viscid siren Nov 9, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Yeah!

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That's how we're made aware of 'em

proven cipher Nov 9, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Good to know! I think somebody said there was a bot that did it automatically but I only use 5 channels so I've no idea

viscid siren Nov 9, 2021, 5:02 PM

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we blacklist them as they come, so no scam link will be visible to you twice; things in the blacklist when posted are caught by a bot and are directly visible to us without any need for pings, making banning more convenient shroompog

chrome spade Nov 9, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Well-oiled banning machine quirrelgroovin

viscid siren Nov 10, 2021, 6:52 AM

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quirrelgroovin

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Does anyone know coding?

primal latch Nov 10, 2021, 3:19 PM

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Yes. Like, everyone that uses this channel.

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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Oh do you?

primal latch Nov 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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I use this channel

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So yes

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:22 PM

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I dont know much code

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More of an artist but

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Im wanting to make a fan game do you want to help

primal latch Nov 10, 2021, 3:23 PM

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It’s a nice idea but I won’t be able to help. All of my programming time is dedicated to Fyremoth at the moment

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Whats that?

primal latch Nov 10, 2021, 3:25 PM

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A big mod

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:25 PM

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Ah

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May i ask whats it about?

merry lotus Nov 10, 2021, 3:29 PM

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winter summit May i ask whats it about?

If you Google search Fyremoth, the top results will be of YouTube videos about it three_thumbs_up

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Oh

merry lotus Nov 10, 2021, 3:30 PM

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I think that there's two different trailers now

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And a few "preview" gameplay videos

steady comet Nov 10, 2021, 3:31 PM

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merry lotus I think that there's two different trailers now

Isn't this the same for silksong? palehmm

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Im trying to work on a whole entire fangame

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The challenge is to get it done before silksong

light zodiac Nov 10, 2021, 3:37 PM

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steady comet Isn't this the same for silksong? <:palehmm:595085708683902986>

feelsgrubman

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i dont like these connections your making

steady comet Nov 10, 2021, 3:37 PM

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~~fyremoth is actually a silksong mod~~

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

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Lol

worn eagle Nov 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

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may we see some example assets

winter summit Nov 10, 2021, 3:47 PM

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worn eagle may we see some example assets

Yea i want to see some asets

worn eagle Nov 10, 2021, 3:55 PM

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what

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I meant from this fangame if you've made any

primal latch Nov 10, 2021, 5:28 PM

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steady comet ~~fyremoth is actually a silksong mod~~

How did you know?

jolly oriole Nov 10, 2021, 5:40 PM

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because hornet is a moth

vocal spire Nov 10, 2021, 6:53 PM

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~~nooo our secrets have been linked~~

mighty chasm Nov 10, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Does anyone know what "focus MP amount" refers to from the radiance page?

young walrus Nov 10, 2021, 8:08 PM

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soul cost to heal

mighty chasm Nov 10, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Do you know where its stored?

young walrus Nov 10, 2021, 8:09 PM

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the value?

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in save files

mighty chasm Nov 10, 2021, 8:09 PM

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How can you change the value?

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For example I want healing to require 5 soul instead of 33

young walrus Nov 10, 2021, 8:10 PM

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you can edit your save to do that

mighty chasm Nov 10, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Also since thats only for focus is there anything built in for changing the spell cast amounts?

young walrus Nov 10, 2021, 8:12 PM

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there's a lot of things in the save you can change

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dont remember of spell cost is one of them

mighty chasm Nov 10, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Could you give me an example of how to access the save?

young walrus Nov 10, 2021, 8:12 PM

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#archived-modding-help message

mighty chasm Nov 10, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Oh so this isn't something that can be dynamically changed?

young walrus Nov 10, 2021, 8:15 PM

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sure it can. if you write a mod to handle that

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if you just want to change it to a flat value for personal use, you can just change the save file

vocal spire Nov 10, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Use PlayerData.instance.thingyouwanttoaccess after a save is loaded to get/set values directly, or you can use a modhooks getbool (or get something else) hook to return a different value

light zodiac Nov 10, 2021, 9:06 PM

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or use moresaves

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edit saves modmenu

languid goblet Nov 11, 2021, 2:44 AM

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is it generally better to use pd.instance.getbool to get values?

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so that other mods can hook into that and change it if they want

vocal spire Nov 11, 2021, 2:45 AM

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well you may not want to use it and from my memory it's kinda slow how it's implemented

languid goblet Nov 11, 2021, 2:46 AM

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hmm
when would you not want to use it

vocal spire Nov 11, 2021, 2:46 AM

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well when you don't want other mods effecting it

languid goblet Nov 11, 2021, 2:48 AM

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idk I just can't think of a situation where you absolutely don't want other mods affecting it
not like it's that relevant to me anyway, just curious

steady comet Nov 11, 2021, 3:40 AM

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vocal spire well you may not want to use it and from my memory it's kinda slow how it's impl...

This is basically fake news, it's slow how it's implemented in the vanilla game but that method gets patched by the modding api to not be slow

lapis stratus Nov 11, 2021, 7:55 AM

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I've been setting up an ICustomMenuMod menu to handle mod settings and I'm running into an issue with getting the current saved options reflected when loading the game. The settings are retrieved properly from the saves (I output them to the Log to be sure), but all of my menu options are set to the default option when loading the menu. I have a RefreshSetting set up for each HorizontalOptionContent, which I figured was what was needed based on the examples and the API, but it never seems to get called. Any suggestions on what might be wrong?

light zodiac Nov 11, 2021, 7:57 AM

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lapis stratus I've been setting up an ICustomMenuMod menu to handle mod settings and I'm runni...

Any source code to look at?

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Also where do you do the refresh setting

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It worked for me to do it like right after adding the item

Eg

c.AddHorizontalOption(name, Horizontal OptionConfig, out var option);
Option.menuSetting.RefreshValueFromGameSettings();
c.addhorizontaloption();```

lapis stratus Nov 11, 2021, 8:09 AM

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Ah, that might be it. I missed that I'd need to call the refresh function myself. Didn't see that line in the example and figured it was supposed to be called automatically as part of the menu being built. Moment.

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Awesome, that did it. Figured it would be something simple I just overlooked. Thanks!

vocal spire Nov 11, 2021, 11:34 AM

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steady comet This is basically fake news, it's slow how it's implemented in the vanilla game ...

Oh ok

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2021, 12:43 PM

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how learn c hashtag

vocal spire Nov 11, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Yes

cedar hemlock Nov 11, 2021, 3:18 PM

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I agree

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Is there a hook function that is called right after the herocontroller is loaded so I can get a reference to it when the game starts?

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2021, 5:11 PM

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On.HeroController.Start

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Thank you!

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Also, what determines how much focusing/spells cosy?

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cost?

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2021, 5:31 PM

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don't forget to have orig(self) at the start of the on-hook

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2021, 5:31 PM

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mighty chasm cost?

playerdata.focusmpcost or smth like that

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Ohhh cuz Im changing the focusmpcost in fsm same with mp cost and it doesnt seem to be doing anything

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Ill try that

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2021, 5:33 PM

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do it with the getint hook from modhooks

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:33 PM

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GetInt intercepts getting fsm ints too?

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2021, 5:33 PM

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well, the fsm does a getplayerdataint

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which is why the value gets overridden in the fsm

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Ohhhhhhh

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Also do spells also read the focusMpamount int?

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2021, 5:34 PM

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yes

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Ohhhh danggg no wonder

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Ok ill tell you how it works

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It seems to work for focusing

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But spells still cost 33 🤔

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Does directly editing the MP Cost variable not affect anything 🤔

proven cipher Nov 11, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Have you changed the other variable?

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Or just focusMPamount?

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:46 PM

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This is what I am doing:

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private IEnumerator GameLoaded()
{
      yield return new WaitWhile(() => HeroController.instance == null);
      heroController = HeroController.instance;
      spellControl = heroController.spellControl;

      spellControl.FsmVariables.FindFsmInt("MP Cost").Value = MP_COST;
      PlayerData.instance.focusMP_amount = MP_COST;
}

proven cipher Nov 11, 2021, 5:50 PM

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So you're only changing focusMP_amount

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:51 PM

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How so?

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Does changing it in Fsm not actually change it?

proven cipher Nov 11, 2021, 5:52 PM

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No, no, I just went and checked. Looks like I was wrong about it.

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:53 PM

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No problem

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The reason Im confused is because I cant seem to find any other related variables that I could change in order to make it work

proven cipher Nov 11, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Have you found how Spell Twister does it?

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Or are you trying to do it from scratch?

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Thats a good idea

proven cipher Nov 11, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Changing the obvious stuff won't work. It's Hollow Knight.

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 5:56 PM

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You can say that again 😂

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They are actually doing it the exact way I am doing it 🤔

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Btw how can you access a charm effects fsm?

sage holly Nov 11, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Hello, the Pale Court Development Team is looking to recruit one or two more programmers
DM me if you're interested

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I ended up figuring it out

proven cipher Nov 11, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Yoooo

mighty chasm Nov 11, 2021, 6:22 PM

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The fsm script setSpellCost is constantly resetting the mpCost checking whether or not we have the charm equipped

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Even if its not equipped it always updates it

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So I just edited it to set my values instead

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Chonk Knight mod is one step closer to fruition

mighty chasm Nov 12, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Anyone know why I wouldnt be able to call InsertMethod on a PlayMakerFsm object?

light zodiac Nov 12, 2021, 7:12 AM

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Do you have a fsm util mod like SFCore?

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As a dependancy

ornate ermine Nov 12, 2021, 10:04 AM

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I noticed that the ModInstaller doesn't include the geo counter mod. I don't remember where I found that mod, but it seems like an odd omission.

I'm just mentioning this as a recommendation that that mod be included in Scarab if it's not too much trouble. It's really useful for those "spend X000 geo" bingo squares.

proven cipher Nov 12, 2021, 10:04 AM

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It's called Bingo UI

ornate ermine Nov 12, 2021, 10:04 AM

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I've been manually installing the geo tracker mod, which works fine. Just a QoL suggestion.

proven cipher Nov 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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It was all folded into one mod

ornate ermine Nov 12, 2021, 10:07 AM

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Good to know. I'll try out Bingo UI on my next rando run then. Wonder what else it includes, but I guess I'll find out

proven cipher Nov 12, 2021, 10:07 AM

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There's a bunch of pins for grubs, killed Devouts etc, too.

ornate ermine Nov 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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That sounds useful. Playing without grubs in the randomizer pool makes keeping track of the number kind of annoying.

proven cipher Nov 12, 2021, 10:09 AM

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It has 2 numbers: number of grubs and (in brackets the number of grub locations you have checked in that area).

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So you can keep track of the "check/free all grubs in Greenpath" etc goals.

ornate ermine Nov 12, 2021, 10:16 AM

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very nice

steady comet Nov 12, 2021, 10:20 AM

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ornate ermine I noticed that the ModInstaller doesn't include the geo counter mod. I don't rem...

Apologies, I hadn't submitted BingoUI to scarab yet because it has rando as a soft dependency (to keep track of e.g. randomized grubs). Other people have asked for it though so I'll try to get it on when I next get the chance.

(When I say soft dependency, what I mean is that BingoUI will work without rando installed, but has modified behaviour if rando is installed)

ornate ermine Nov 12, 2021, 10:21 AM

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steady comet Apologies, I hadn't submitted BingoUI to scarab yet because it has rando as a so...

I'm currently running the old installer on a downpatched game for rando, so the issue was that I didn't know that geo tracker was part of the BingoUI mod.

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Thanks for your work

sage holly Nov 12, 2021, 3:02 PM

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sage holly Hello, the Pale Court Development Team is looking to recruit one or two more pro...

We are good now, we will not receive more programmers until new notice

jolly oriole Nov 12, 2021, 3:28 PM

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damn

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stacked now

steady comet Nov 12, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Who is now on the team? ~~or is it secret~~

light zodiac Nov 12, 2021, 5:57 PM

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says the person in the team /j

steady comet Nov 12, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Zaliant palehmm

jolly oriole Nov 12, 2021, 6:32 PM

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ye, zaliant provides the demotivational support

lone coral Nov 12, 2021, 10:36 PM

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Hi, I'm new here and I have a pair of questions:

Is there a mod or a way to change music in Hollow Knight?
In the case that the first question's answer is negative, how do I start developing mods? I know that there are pinned messages, but I don't quite understand them or which files are important.

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I should be asking this in the modding-help chat?

jolly oriole Nov 12, 2021, 11:18 PM

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yes

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CustomBGM

lone coral Nov 12, 2021, 11:30 PM

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Thank you

lone coral Nov 13, 2021, 9:01 AM

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I'm still interested in starting modding anyway

obsidian vigil Nov 13, 2021, 9:48 AM

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day 0 of making the Bendy custom knight skin

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFIudBIWI1Y bout to use this

YouTube

Megan

Creating A Custom Knight Skin Full Tutorial (using SpritePacker, Mo...

My (arguably too) in-depth tutorial on how to create a Custom Knight skin. Includes: downloading and installing Hollow Knight's ModInstaller and Custom Knight mod, using SpritePacker, using FireAlpaca/art tips, and uploading and properly saving your sprite, plus a much simpler method. Please let me know in the comments if you have any questions!...

▶ Play video

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see you in a month to a year lmao

rough pulsar Nov 13, 2021, 12:52 PM

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cya

mellow shore Nov 13, 2021, 3:43 PM

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let me know if you want help :) the tutorial is a bit outdated in some places

wintry eagle Nov 14, 2021, 12:47 AM

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How do you changes sprites from already existing mods? Specifically golden godhome bosses

obtuse crow Nov 14, 2021, 1:16 AM

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how do i make custom trials using customtrials (mod0

vocal spire Nov 14, 2021, 6:49 PM

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wintry eagle How do you changes sprites from already existing mods? Specifically golden godho...

Why?

wintry eagle Nov 15, 2021, 4:00 AM

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vocal spire Why?

I wanted to make it goldier

vocal spire Nov 15, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Then you can either clone the project off GitHub and build it yourself once you’ve edited the sprites or edit the .dll file in dnspy or ilspy

fallen grove Nov 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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This might be a noob question but when I open the examples in https://github.com/hk-modding/api it gives me the CS0245 Error that the namespacename "Modding" couldn't be found. Under Assemblys it shows me this and I don't fully know what the problem is but to my very untrained eyes it looks like it fails to reference whatever should be in the Assembly-CSharp.dll. When I try to manually add an Assembly reference it tells me that the reference is either invalid or not supported (using Visual Studio 2019). Am I just missing an important step? I basically tried to follow the getting started on https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html, but in the video tutorials in the section afterwards they just reference the .dll and everything works like a charm so I think I might have just done something wrong when "compiling" the assebly-csharp.dll myself. The output of that build is https://pastebin.com/KjnRm790 and it says that it is successful. Any ideas?

GitHub

GitHub - hk-modding/api: Hollow Knight Modding API

Hollow Knight Modding API. Contribute to hk-modding/api development by creating an account on GitHub.

Pastebin

Output - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

lapis stratus Nov 15, 2021, 10:06 AM

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fallen grove This might be a noob question but when I open the examples in https://github.com...

I had a similar issue when I first set up a mod. You might need to right click on your project file, and "Edit Project File", then change the value of "HollowKnightRefs" to point to the Managed folder of your Hollow Knight installation

rough pulsar Nov 15, 2021, 10:07 AM

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yea and if modding namespace still does not exist then you dony even have modding api installed

wintry eagle Nov 15, 2021, 6:08 PM

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vocal spire Then you can either clone the project off GitHub and build it yourself once you’...

thanks!

burnt vale Nov 15, 2021, 11:26 PM

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hi id like to make a mod but i have no idea where to start. I have a good amount of experience with python but idk if that would help

vocal spire Nov 15, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Hk modding is done in c# and it’s suggested to have some experience with the unity game engine since that’s what hk is made in. It’s probably fine though since I ~~officially~~ also learned c# and unity through hk modding

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I’m not quite sure what people would suggest as the “up to date” modding resources (a bit spread out since the 1.5 update) so I’ll give you a like to the hk modding server. The pins of this channel (and some in the other modding channels) can also be helpful

burnt vale Nov 15, 2021, 11:30 PM

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ok thanks

muted shale Nov 16, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Are people planning to make randomizer mods for 1.5?

proven cipher Nov 16, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Yes

muted shale Nov 16, 2021, 10:59 AM

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Okay cool!

pseudo pond Nov 16, 2021, 2:46 PM

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vocal spire I’m not quite sure what people would suggest as the “up to date” modding resourc...

can you send me a link to said server?

solid geode Nov 16, 2021, 3:01 PM

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vocal spire I’m not quite sure what people would suggest as the “up to date” modding resourc...

I’d like that link as well if you don’t mind

jolly oriole Nov 16, 2021, 3:02 PM

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https://discord.gg/VDsg3HmWuB

summer flax Nov 16, 2021, 3:21 PM

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Does anyone have some experience with the BonFire Mod?

primal latch Nov 16, 2021, 3:24 PM

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@summer flax wrong channel

rough pulsar Nov 16, 2021, 3:29 PM

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zamn

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speedrhn discord link is pinned in speedrunning channel but not here????? wai

proven cipher Nov 16, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Why would it be

steady comet Nov 16, 2021, 3:41 PM

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rough pulsar speedrhn discord link is pinned in speedrunning channel but not here????? <:wai:...

That’s because the speed run server is official whereas the modding one is not

proven cipher Nov 16, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Oh I see

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It's not any more official than any other server

rough pulsar Nov 16, 2021, 3:42 PM

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Reasonable

proven cipher Nov 16, 2021, 3:42 PM

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It's just a bunch of people

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It's nothing to do with TC

steady comet Nov 16, 2021, 3:44 PM

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proven cipher It's not any more official than any other server

Was this intended for me?

proven cipher Nov 16, 2021, 3:49 PM

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Yeah, kind of

steady comet Nov 16, 2021, 3:52 PM

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steady comet That’s because the speed run server is official whereas the modding one is not

When I say this, what I mean is that the speedrunning server was set up by the people who run hk speedrunning, whereas the modding server was set up by basically random people who happen to do hk modding-related things

merry lotus Nov 16, 2021, 4:38 PM

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steady comet When I say this, what I mean is that the speedrunning server was set up by the p...

Tbf, I did originally ask here if anyone had plans to make a dedicated server tamershrug

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If it would have meant a better "link" between the two, then I would have rather the Modding staff of here make the other one.

Instead, a bunch of people said that they liked the idea of the server, but no one actually wanted to make it

light zodiac Nov 16, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Also hksr is official as in admins here recognize it

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And hence have done stuff like lock #360673633338785793 channels

summer flax Nov 16, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Hey everyone, I have taken a look into the source code of the BonFire mod and I try to find the part which causes the Nail Arts not dealing more damage.
If someone has experience with that and knows why and where to find that line, then shout! 😉

proven cipher Nov 16, 2021, 5:03 PM

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It's probably more that the code to make them deal more damage isn't there.

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TC have literally had this problem in vanilla.

summer flax Nov 16, 2021, 5:33 PM

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https://github.com/ricardosouzag/BonfireMod/blob/8f1488fa770d3e704dae7b1681b5ab9c3570eed6/LevellingSystem.cs#L250

GitHub

BonfireMod/LevellingSystem.cs at 8f1488fa770d3e704dae7b1681b5ab9c35...

Repository for BonfireMod HK mod. Contribute to ricardosouzag/BonfireMod development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Yes! - I need to get the instance which decides whether it is a nailart or not.

vocal spire Nov 16, 2021, 5:44 PM

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summer flax Yes! - I need to get the instance which decides whether it is a nailart or not.

It’s probably more of how team Cherry implemented nail arts instead. At least with what I saw of the code you linked that should already work on them. There’s also a large chance I missed something since I just took a glance over it

summer flax Nov 16, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Ya line 123, it asks for something with "lash" in it.
IDK if the nail arts do also have it 😕
It was probably to discrimminate Thorns of Agony or damage by the Crystal Heart.
https://github.com/ricardosouzag/BonfireMod/blob/8f1488fa770d3e704dae7b1681b5ab9c3570eed6/BonfireMod.cs#L123

GitHub

BonfireMod/BonfireMod.cs at 8f1488fa770d3e704dae7b1681b5ab9c3570eed...

Repository for BonfireMod HK mod. Contribute to ricardosouzag/BonfireMod development by creating an account on GitHub.

vocal spire Nov 16, 2021, 6:25 PM

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summer flax Ya line 123, it asks for something with "lash" in it. IDK if the nail arts do al...

Then you could probably just add an or and see if the name contains something shared by nail arts

summer flax Nov 16, 2021, 8:16 PM

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😎 👍

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Exactly

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Then, there is just the part, where I find out, how to compile it into a HK DLL (probably unity thought)

vocal spire Nov 16, 2021, 9:33 PM

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summer flax Then, there is just the part, where I find out, how to compile it into a HK DLL ...

You can compile it by either running dotnet build after downloading it and setting the references in the right place or installing a c# ide such as Microsoft visual studio community or rider, open the project with it, then compile it (usually ctrl + b does this)

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Can’t compile it with unity

summer flax Nov 16, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Do you think it is worth a try porting it to 1.5?

ruby moth Nov 16, 2021, 11:46 PM

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how do you start making mods?

summer flax Nov 17, 2021, 1:52 AM

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Programming them...

C#
You probably have to get into C#, since it is most likely the only or at least best supported language the mods are written in.
Example Code
There is a Sticky with a template mod for 1.5.
Or you can give it a try and look at existing examples.
Many legacy HK mod do only exist for 1.4.3.2.
That Unity Explorer Mod or similar methods
Use those methods to get an idea of how some mechanics of the game work and how to find certain files and values.
Compiling
Having a way to compile it properly is important, e.g. Visual Studio using .NET.

There might be such a thing as a mod editor or something, with which you maybe don't have to learn so much hard coding yourself, but I am fairly new to it and don't know how that works then.

ruby moth Nov 17, 2021, 2:11 AM

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so what software would i need

ruby moth Nov 17, 2021, 2:33 AM

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actually nvm

waxen plume Nov 17, 2021, 6:42 AM

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vocal spire I’m not quite sure what people would suggest as the “up to date” modding resourc...

can i have a link to that hk modding server?

jolly oriole Nov 17, 2021, 7:12 AM

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jolly oriole https://discord.gg/VDsg3HmWuB

yea

waxen plume Nov 17, 2021, 8:20 AM

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ththats helpful yes thanks :3

tulip jewel Nov 18, 2021, 6:15 AM

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no more blocker enemy

fallen grove Nov 18, 2021, 8:58 AM

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lapis stratus I had a similar issue when I first set up a mod. You might need to right click o...

Forgot to tell, that fixed it.

jolly jungle Nov 19, 2021, 6:57 AM

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returns four days later
says thank you
leaves

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what a shroompog person

meager tusk Nov 19, 2021, 5:33 PM

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is this the place to say mod ideas?

rough pulsar Nov 19, 2021, 5:39 PM

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no

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that would be modding discussion

meager tusk Nov 19, 2021, 5:46 PM

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but ppl said it was here just now

rough pulsar Nov 19, 2021, 5:47 PM

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keep them there anyways

obsidian vigil Nov 20, 2021, 2:27 PM

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week 1 of bendy knight skin

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finished a quarter of knight.png

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mostly idles

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idk what imma do about the nail

valid shoal Nov 21, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Heyo, I want to make a HK mod that would add benches before each boss encounter and make all enemies die in one hit (except bosses, those would die in the same number of hits).

The second part I would make by multiplying the nail base damage by a big number, and multiplying all bosses health by that as well.

Now, going through the docs what I got so far is that: I'll have to edit the unity scenes to add the benches, the nail damage will probably be easier to multiply via a onAttack hook or similar and I'll probably have to edit the scenes to change the bosses health too, although it feels like they may be defined somewhere. Maybe I could multiply it via the "enableEnemy" hook? I still have to familiarize myself with the docs, but that's the general idea I have for now. Am I on the right track?

primal latch Nov 21, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Yes you seem to be

steady comet Nov 21, 2021, 12:18 PM

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I think it makes more sense to set the non-boss enemy HP to 1? Changing nail damage is a bit more hassle than changing enemy HP, IME

vocal spire Nov 21, 2021, 12:18 PM

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valid shoal Heyo, I want to make a HK mod that would add benches before each boss encounter ...

On the editing scenes part: if you mean editing scenes as in the bug process with editing them in the unity editor then that might not be what you want to do. For rooms you replace in the game like that, mods that change stuff in the original room won’t work there anymore, plus it’s a lot of unneeded work and memory taken up. All you need to do is preload benches (you can look at how the benchwarp mod does this, you’d also already have to do it with the other way) then use a SceneChanged hook to instantiate them and set their position when a specific scene is loaded. Also while that is a good idea to use nail damage to kill enemies instantly, you might want to do the reverse of your idea and change normal enemies’ health to 0. Changing nail damage will persist even when mods are turned off or uninstalled, and people tend to not read any information mod developers provide for their mods (no matter how hard some people try) and then complain about it in #archived-modding-help

steady comet Nov 21, 2021, 12:19 PM

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Not really a snail because you got a lot more useful info there, but yeah

vocal spire Nov 21, 2021, 12:21 PM

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Also on the nail damage thing, imma add a bunch of kool Playerdata and HeroController stuff to frogcore eventually that 1. Saves/loads improper save data to pet mod save data and 2. Allows multiple mods to hopefully edit it without dying

steady comet Nov 21, 2021, 12:22 PM

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If you add a way to do that that doesn't persist when they revert to unmodded, that would be very useful to people

lilac thistle Nov 21, 2021, 2:35 PM

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does anyone have grub mod

vocal spire Nov 21, 2021, 2:35 PM

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?

lilac thistle Nov 21, 2021, 2:35 PM

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i just wanna know

vocal spire Nov 21, 2021, 2:35 PM

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This is modding-development

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Wdym

lilac thistle Nov 21, 2021, 2:35 PM

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ooop

rough pulsar Nov 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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uh

vocal spire Nov 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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For all we know grub mod means you create a npc named grub

rough pulsar Nov 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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you mean the recent one that one guy born out of fire made that had 4 grubs following you?

jolly jungle Nov 21, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Or the one where you kill grubs

sweet birch Nov 21, 2021, 5:31 PM

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valid shoal Heyo, I want to make a HK mod that would add benches before each boss encounter ...

Why not make a mod that buffs damage values

vocal spire Nov 21, 2021, 6:45 PM

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sweet birch Why not make a mod that buffs damage values

Do you mean damage the player does? They just want to make normal enemies die in one hit and bosses die in the normal amount. Also that will affect the nail damage without the mod too unless it’s implemented a specific way

merry lotus Nov 21, 2021, 9:29 PM

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<@&283547423706447872> this person is spamming in all channels

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I am snail

glossy olive Nov 21, 2021, 9:32 PM

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kekw

rough pulsar Nov 21, 2021, 9:49 PM

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en tekct

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i agree

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ngl

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anyways i think we should talk about how playerdata.instance.health = 0

jolly oriole Nov 21, 2021, 9:50 PM

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no, even better

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maxhealth & maxhealthbase = 0

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and then let the player die

rough pulsar Nov 21, 2021, 9:57 PM

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true ngl

vocal spire Nov 22, 2021, 2:14 AM

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I prefer nailDamage = -21

ivory terrace Nov 22, 2021, 2:21 PM

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vocal spire I prefer nailDamage = -21

is this meant to be nailDamage -= 21 or just setting it to -21

vocal spire Nov 22, 2021, 2:35 PM

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ivory terrace is this meant to be nailDamage -= 21 or just setting it to -21

Setting it to -21

ivory terrace Nov 22, 2021, 4:11 PM

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thats lame though

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what if you did some overly complex garbage instead just because it's funny

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like

local swag = 69420
for swag do
  nailDamage -=1
end

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"overly complex" im just lazy rn

cedar hemlock Nov 22, 2021, 4:19 PM

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yes but c# next time

vocal spire Nov 22, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Smh write some fast code

sweet birch Nov 22, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Just had a stupid idea for a mod

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When Flukenest is equipped. Abyss Shriek is replaced by a swarm of flukes being propelled upwards

rough pulsar Nov 22, 2021, 5:55 PM

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when are we going to be able to write mods in brainfuck

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(horrible idea don't)

vocal spire Nov 22, 2021, 11:15 PM

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rough pulsar when are we going to be able to write mods in brainfuck

https://github.com/fifty-six/Brainfuck/tree/master/Brainfuck.CSharp

GitHub

Brainfuck/Brainfuck.CSharp at master · fifty-six/Brainfuck

A collection of brainfuck interpeters in some of the languages I know. - Brainfuck/Brainfuck.CSharp at master · fifty-six/Brainfuck

rough pulsar Nov 22, 2021, 11:16 PM

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Oh god

primal latch Nov 23, 2021, 10:14 AM

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But that isn’t modding

candid dove Nov 23, 2021, 4:00 PM

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first ever person to say the thing

pure nova Nov 23, 2021, 5:06 PM

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primal latch But that isn’t modding

Not with that attitude it isn’t.

primal latch Nov 23, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Lol

bitter vector Nov 24, 2021, 1:41 AM

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so is there an online collection of the animations for the knight? I'm making a skin but i dont actually own the PC version

delicate condor Nov 24, 2021, 4:05 AM

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how does one go about making a hollow knight mod? I am new to this but I want to make a 'present' for uniquenameforme ||(absolute casual bossfight supernerfed absrad)||

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what components do I need for visual studio

pure nova Nov 24, 2021, 4:36 AM

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~~Uniquenameforme just needs to git gud. 😤😤~~ Check the pins.

merry lotus Nov 24, 2021, 6:22 AM

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bitter vector so is there an online collection of the animations for the knight? I'm making a ...

There's a pinned message in #modding-discussion that specifically has the Knight sprites.
Otherwise, you can use the sheets pinned in #art-discussion as well.

merry lotus Nov 24, 2021, 6:23 AM

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delicate condor how does one go about making a hollow knight mod? I am new to this but I want to...

At this point in time, you may want to join the dedicated Modding discord for that. It's more active with people who can answer Qs about getting started, and it has more up-to-date resources on modding for 1.5

If you want to join, there's a link to it in my "About Me". Or you can search the server, as others have posted links to it here and in #modding-discussion before.

bitter vector Nov 24, 2021, 5:54 PM

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merry lotus There's a pinned message in <#610754780461006848> that specifically has the Knig...

much appreciated <3

vocal spire Nov 24, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Mods do be quick

steel patio Nov 25, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Idk if this is the place to ask, but is there a Meta Knight skinpack for the Knight? It seems like an obvious choice since they're both smol, they both get energy from hitting things that they can use to heal, can both use wing-cloaks, and they're both counterparts to another entity (although the roles are reversed in meta knight's case)

merry lotus Nov 25, 2021, 3:32 AM

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steel patio Idk if this is the place to ask, but is there a Meta Knight skinpack for the Kni...

With the current way skins work, they have to be the same general shape of the Knight, so it would probably be very difficult to make a Meta Knight skin, because they're a lot rounder.

There's a mod that Someone is working on that may allow for that kind of skin to exist, but it's not likely going to be done any time soon.

steel patio Nov 25, 2021, 3:34 AM

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merry lotus With the current way skins work, they have to be the same general shape of the K...

Ah I see. What about a pallette that has meta knight colors and mask shape and stuff, does that exist?

merry lotus Nov 25, 2021, 3:39 AM

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Not currently. You could always make one though

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You can also use HatMod to do something similar, that would be easy, but bet silly looking

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Can someone here please make a simple mod that lets me dash upwards as well as downwards

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Im aware that theres a mod called blackmoth but i dont wanna dash in 8 directions, only in 4 i want. And i want the nail damage to be default, not just 1 damage like blackmoth

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If some modder here does this ill greatly appreciate it

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hollowblob

vocal spire Nov 25, 2021, 4:43 AM

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I might have done it but you caught me as I’m going to bed

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Might do it tomorrow if I remember

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 6:28 AM

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Ok ty

fervent seal Nov 25, 2021, 12:15 PM

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a

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:27 PM

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heyyy so I'm creating a map and I'm kinda looking into deco mod rn and add a few custom stuff and it's all cool and all but how do you add custom floors and levers and such?
can I just try to find the correct things from ToT and yoink that? is how ToT did it similar enough to deco mod?

vocal spire Nov 25, 2021, 8:30 PM

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I’m not too good with deco master, but idk if you can add custom stuff to it without editing the code. Not sure what you mean by finding them from tot, it doesn’t use deco master. All the scenes were created in the unity editor and stuff that couldn’t be created there was places in the rooms at runtime
(@ SFGrenade#2066)

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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oh using unity editor sounds like a great idea

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I mean like I'm editing the code from deco mod rn to change some lever behaviour that I want I was thinking of yoinking that kind of stuff:
WpLeverPrefab = UObject.Instantiate(preloadedObjects["White_Palace_17"]["WP Lever"]);
but if that's used with unity editor it might prob not work then huh

vocal spire Nov 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Anything preloaded has nothing to do with the editor

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So what’s your question again (not quite understanding)

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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I for example just want to add a wp lever

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and well idk if that line for example would work for that

vocal spire Nov 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Preloading it? You’ve probably got it. If you just have deco master do everything it did to normal levers it will probably work

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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like this is the dictionary for a lever in deco mod, which if I understand the code correctly I can just change so for example use the whitepalace lever thing and then it should work ig

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yea fair

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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violet zodiac I mean like I'm editing the code from deco mod rn to change some lever behaviour...

that's why I was so confused about this, bc it looks like it instantiates something that's made somewhere else ig

vocal spire Nov 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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violet zodiac I mean like I'm editing the code from deco mod rn to change some lever behaviour...

Actually is this in initialize?

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Well I gtg, gl

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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ty

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oh yea that makes sense

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understanding code challenge [impossible]

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thanks for the help

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all I want is pop floors why is using brain so hard owoDead

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wp_floor_long (4)
 \--Component: Transform
 \--GameObject layer: 0
 \--GameObject tag: Untagged
 \--Transform Position: (276.0, 10.8, -0.1)
 \--Transform Rotation: (0.0, 0.0, 0.0)
 \--Transform LocalScale: (-1.2, 1.0, 1.0)
 \--Component: SpriteRenderer```
![3sKannaPoint](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585600996940578816.webp?size=128 "3sKannaPoint")

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can I instantiate it the same way as the other things?
like "White_Palace_18", "wp_floor_long"

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PanThink

steady comet Nov 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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You should be able to

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You might want the (4) tho

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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ill try that out sometime

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 8:58 PM

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let me know when u can make the dash upwards mod ok? @vocal spire

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:58 PM

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didnt flib make that already

vocal spire Nov 25, 2021, 8:58 PM

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🤔 I haven’t seen anything about it

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:59 PM

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im like 96% sure flib made that

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seen it before

vocal spire Nov 25, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Where did you see it before?

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:59 PM

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in flibcord

steady comet Nov 25, 2021, 8:59 PM

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violet zodiac im like 96% sure flib made that

Lots of people have made upward dash mods

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There's one in this server

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:59 PM

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PanAdmire

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Can u paste a link

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 8:59 PM

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but your mod is really cool altogether

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cdash dive dash

steady comet Nov 25, 2021, 9:00 PM

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eternal ibex Can u paste a link

I can't find it, but it's called celeste.dll

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 9:00 PM

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But is it 8 directional?

steady comet Nov 25, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Yes

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I don't know of a mod that has up dash but no diagonal dash

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 9:01 PM

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What if i wanted it to be 4 directional?

steady comet Nov 25, 2021, 9:01 PM

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You would have to make your own mod or just not press the diagonal keys

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or get someone else to make it IG

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Theres a game called environmental station alpha

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I love the simple dash there

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Flibcord

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Whats that?

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@steady comet

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 9:03 PM

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it's a secret place for cuties

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twitch.tv/flibber_ shoutouts

dim coral Nov 25, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Heyyy is this the right channel to ask for some help..?
I have a question bout the Custom Knight Skin making process ^^
Or.. is the modding help one the right one?..

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 9:13 PM

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so you want to create a custom knight skin and need help for that?

dim coral Nov 25, 2021, 9:14 PM

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yes. I have a concept but I never did any skins for games like that.. and I just wanted to know in what pxl ration it's best to draw it or if it's better to just edit the default one ^^

steady comet Nov 25, 2021, 9:16 PM

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dim coral Heyyy is this the right channel to ask for some help..? I have a question bout ...

I think CK skin developent is usually in #modding-discussion , but someone who knows what they're doing with skins will probably come here (I don't btw thkhands )

dim coral Nov 25, 2021, 9:17 PM

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I can just flop over there and ask again.. I mean I get it if this is more for coding and stuff that is too complicated for my lil brain ._.

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But thank you anyways 🙂

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 9:28 PM

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I have been searching the server for the celeste.dll and no result.

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I cant find anymods that let u dash up

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Except for blackmoth

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I dont like blackmoth

steady comet Nov 25, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Search celeste.dll, click the oldest one, scroll down and click the first link

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I never tried it either but it probably works

merry lotus Nov 25, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Re-upload of Celeste.dll

📎 Celeste.dll

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@eternal ibex

eternal ibex Nov 25, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Thx man

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I should paste this file in mods folder right?

violet zodiac Nov 25, 2021, 10:53 PM

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violet zodiac can I instantiate it the same way as the other things? like "White_Palace_18", "...

fun fact deco mod did not like me changing the lever

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prob fixable but owoDead

cinder fable Nov 26, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Guys where I find the newest link of the modinstaller

clear nexus Nov 26, 2021, 1:31 AM

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you didnt have to post it thrice

cinder fable Nov 26, 2021, 1:32 AM

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srry

jolly oriole Nov 26, 2021, 7:07 AM

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violet zodiac fun fact deco mod did not like me changing the lever

time to ditch deco master hotdogHotdog

rough pulsar Nov 26, 2021, 3:03 PM

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ditch deco master and preload the gos into scenes via code shroompog 👍

jolly oriole Nov 26, 2021, 3:15 PM

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how else

fiery venture Nov 26, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Do we know when we'll get randomizer for current patch ?

proven cipher Nov 26, 2021, 9:06 PM

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No

fiery venture Nov 26, 2021, 9:06 PM

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darnit

teal hatch Nov 26, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I’m trying to create mods for hollow knight. I was told I must use .net framework 3.5 since that’s the version the game uses. But the only options available to me in visual studio are 2.0 2.1 and 6.0! I’ve tried installing and enabling 3.5 but it just isn’t there!

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This is mod help but development help as well so that’s y I put it in both

jolly oriole Nov 26, 2021, 9:43 PM

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on project creation, select "library (.net framework)"

teal hatch Nov 26, 2021, 9:54 PM

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jolly oriole on project creation, select "library (.net framework)"

This?

jolly oriole Nov 26, 2021, 9:55 PM

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yes

young walrus Nov 26, 2021, 10:00 PM

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also, 3.5 framework is only for older patches

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if you're planning to make things for 1.5.x.x patches, the framework is 4.7.2 now

teal hatch Nov 26, 2021, 10:50 PM

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I intend to mod for 1.4.3.2

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Like most other mods are

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And it’s working now thx for ur help

teal hatch Nov 26, 2021, 11:32 PM

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I’m trying to increase the base nail length and I can’t find it in dnSpy

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Is it not a variable?

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I found the startslash() and I can see they are multiplying stuff but I can’t figure out where they are defining the base value

proven cipher Nov 26, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Fwiw the older mod installers aren't going to be updated much, if at all. You should mod for 1.5

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The main mods that aren't on 1.5 are being updated.

teal hatch Nov 26, 2021, 11:52 PM

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But 4.7.2 and 4 in general is being faised out in 2022

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Why continue in coding in it?

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3.5 is gonna be around till 2026

proven cipher Nov 26, 2021, 11:54 PM

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I don't entirely understand how that side of things works, but having HK mods on the latest patch makes more sense than asking people to down patch. Plus scarab is better than the other installers.

teal hatch Nov 26, 2021, 11:54 PM

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Ok

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Still tho is there a way to increase nail length?

silent relic Nov 27, 2021, 2:48 AM

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proven cipher I don't entirely understand how that side of things works, but having HK mods on...

Isn't downpatching as easy as going into betas of hk?

silent relic Nov 27, 2021, 2:49 AM

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teal hatch Still tho is there a way to increase nail length?

just ctrlf nailLength or length or len

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then change it

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Is it better to translate the game code from x86 to c# and make a mod, or just make the mod in x86?
actually does hk use x86 or x64

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 3:48 AM

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silent relic just ctrlf nailLength or length or len

thats what ive been doing literally all day

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i cant

silent relic Nov 27, 2021, 3:49 AM

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Then search the nail class

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:51 AM

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teal hatch thats what ive been doing literally all day

In herococontroller class check charm update function

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And look for what happens if charm 13 or 18 is equipped

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 3:52 AM

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it multplies this.scale.x and this.scale.y by different amounts

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but i cant find the original variable

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Wdym original variable?

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 3:53 AM

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like where they assign the value that they muiltiply it by

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Could you screenshot it

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 3:54 AM

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this is whats happening when either mantis or long nail is equipped

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:55 AM

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What class is this in?

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Or rather what monobehaviour is this in

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 3:55 AM

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NailSlash

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Maybe you could on hook this function

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 3:57 AM

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and change the x and y?

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Yea

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Like

On.NailSlash.StartSlash += newfun

And in new fun
{
// Change local scale
Orig(self)
}

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 3:59 AM

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i dont see its details in the apidocks for it

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:59 AM

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And to change local scale use self.transform.localscale

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Yea cuz that's a WIP

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 3:59 AM

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so what do i pass in?

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Hence the mini tutorial

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Let IDE generate for you

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:00 AM

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so how am i changing the x and y

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:00 AM

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light zodiac And to change local scale use self.transform.localscale

This

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:00 AM

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where is self defined?

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:00 AM

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light zodiac Like On.NailSlash.StartSlash += newfun And in new fun { // Change local scale ...

Doing orig(self) in the end is basically calling the original function

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You need to do this if you don't wanna edit the function code

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:01 AM

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so im calling the origional inside the function?

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isnt that a loop?

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:01 AM

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If you wanna edit it completely don't call orig(self)

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:01 AM

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teal hatch so im calling the origional inside the function?

No

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:01 AM

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what is orig?

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:02 AM

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light zodiac Doing orig(self) in the end is basically calling the original function

This

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:02 AM

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I have a decent bit of knowledge but not alot of c# know how

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:02 AM

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That's all what you have to do with orig tbh

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:02 AM

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explain it all like im a toddler

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from start to finish

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how and why

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:03 AM

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On hook is a way to replace original code

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Redfrog 👀

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Think if it as the next method in the hook chain is passed in and you need to call it with either the parameters provided or your own stuff, if no other hooks are there it’s the original method

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Yea

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But who hooks start slash

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Me?

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Why

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Set the scale of the nail

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:04 AM

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So it would work shroompog

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:05 AM

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I’ve already done it in a mod

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It’s on GitHub

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https://github.com/RedFrog6002/NailLengthPlus

GitHub

GitHub - RedFrog6002/NailLengthPlus: Hollow Knight Charm and Nail Mod

Hollow Knight Charm and Nail Mod. Contribute to RedFrog6002/NailLengthPlus development by creating an account on GitHub.

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:05 AM

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vocal spire Think if it as the next method in the hook chain is passed in and you need to ca...

so what method am i passing into what method

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:05 AM

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?

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In your hook, orig is passed in as sort of the next method in the hook chain (ending with the original method, hence the name “orig”)

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:07 AM

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so im sandwiching a method between two copies of another method?

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Sort of?

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Not two copies

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:07 AM

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and in this case what method am i sandwiching inside what method

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Basically think of on hooks like on demand modhooks if that makes sense

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:09 AM

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(Modhooks don’t have a orig parameter)

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:09 AM

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Kinda

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:10 AM

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By hooking/subscribing your method to StartSlash, your method is called instead of the original method, and you can call the original stuff, or the next method in the chain if there’s multiple hooks to that if you call orig(parameters)

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:11 AM

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so im putting my method in the middle of the origional?

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and whats the difference between an onhook and a modhook

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:13 AM

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teal hatch so im putting my method in the middle of the origional?

No at the beginning, before it’s called unless another mod hooks the same method after your mod hooks it

vocal spire Nov 27, 2021, 4:14 AM

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teal hatch and whats the difference between an onhook and a modhook

Modhooks => manually made hooks, most can also be found as a on hook (ex: HeroUpdateHook, On.HeroController.Update)
On hooks => mono mod hookgen (ignore this if you don’t know what it means) hooks generated for each method found in the unmodded assembly-csharp assembly

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:14 AM

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https://github.com/EverestAPI/Resources/wiki/Your-First-Code-Mod#onceleste-hooks

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Maybe this can help

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:14 AM

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ill read that and be back if i need more help

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:21 AM

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light zodiac Maybe this can help

ok yeah so should i use on.celeste or il.celeste?

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ok wait i get it! so im replacing the origional function with itself plus my own stuff?

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:30 AM

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teal hatch ok yeah so should i use on.celeste or il.celeste?

Use On.NailSlash.StartSlash

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:32 AM

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my code doesnt seem to like transform, vector3, and scale

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why?

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:34 AM

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light zodiac Use On.NailSlash.StartSlash

cause that worked

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:56 AM

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teal hatch cause that worked

Self.gameObject.tranform

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:56 AM

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Were would I put that

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:56 AM

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In the on hook

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:57 AM

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Like pass it on?

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Or on.nailslash.startslash.self.gamePbject.transform

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 4:58 AM

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https://github.com/RedFrog6002/NailLengthPlus/blob/d2c43c35c0e1de1d91ac9ed415db4ac38f05989f/NailLengthPlus/NailLengthPlus.cs#L130-L140

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Like this

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 4:58 AM

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Ok

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I had just copied the game’s original format for the line

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Thank you guys for the help! @vocal spire and @light zodiac you guys are awesome! I’ll prob be back tmrw asking for more help lol. But since there r no good coding tutorials for hk modding ig this is the only way

mint willow Nov 27, 2021, 6:33 AM

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light zodiac <https://github.com/RedFrog6002/NailLengthPlus/blob/d2c43c35c0e1de1d91ac9ed415db...

how do I install that to hollow knight?

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 6:42 AM

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https://github.com/RedFrog6002/NailLengthPlus/releases/download/1.0.0.0/NailLengthPlus.zip

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Download this, extract it and place it in mods folder

languid goblet Nov 27, 2021, 7:10 AM

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teal hatch Thank you guys for the help! <@!566029907264667657> and <@724954591602671628> yo...

there's a video tutorial in the modding api that's pretty decent, but a lot of stuff you kinda just have to figure out unfortunately

steady comet Nov 27, 2021, 11:09 AM

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teal hatch I intend to mod for 1.4.3.2

omegamarmu

jolly oriole Nov 27, 2021, 12:14 PM

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galaxyPrime

floral blade Nov 27, 2021, 12:20 PM

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all the best mods are on 1.5 or being ported to 1.5 >:O

solid pendant Nov 27, 2021, 1:21 PM

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Hello Everyone

rough pulsar Nov 27, 2021, 1:21 PM

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floral blade all the best mods are on 1.5 or being ported to 1.5 >:O

Path of aspid should be in 1.5

solid pendant Nov 27, 2021, 1:22 PM

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Is The Mod For Fyre Moth modDone or Still in development

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I am so Hyped

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Option 2

heavy vigil Nov 27, 2021, 3:26 PM

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would it be possible to program a hollow knight player ai

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who could beat the pantheons or something like tas but with no human intervension

light zodiac Nov 27, 2021, 3:30 PM

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TAS?

potent mantle Nov 27, 2021, 4:31 PM

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u could but it wouldn't be very good at the game

proven cipher Nov 27, 2021, 4:57 PM

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It has already been done

merry lotus Nov 27, 2021, 5:27 PM

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proven cipher It has already been done

There's a HK Knight AI mod?

Do you have a link, because ngl I'd love to see that in action

proven cipher Nov 27, 2021, 7:01 PM

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There's a TAS

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Of the Pantheons

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Or at least one

potent mantle Nov 27, 2021, 8:42 PM

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well TAS isn't AI

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they specifically manipulate the rng to make sure the fights are the same every time

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and then a human makes programs that input precise commands frame perfect

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 10:24 PM

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light zodiac <https://github.com/RedFrog6002/NailLengthPlus/blob/d2c43c35c0e1de1d91ac9ed415db...

i tried to do what he did but it doesnt like Vector3

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ignore that i just wasnt using unity engine

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ok new issue so heres my code

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private void NailSlash_StartSlash(On.NailSlash.orig_StartSlash orig, NailSlash self) { orig(self); self.gameObject.transform.localScale += new Vector3(self.scale.x * 20, self.scale.y * 20); }

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just to see if it worked

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and it didnt

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the nail shouldve been huge and it was the normal size

teal hatch Nov 27, 2021, 11:02 PM

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do i need to call it somewhere?

teal hatch Nov 28, 2021, 12:19 AM

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nvrmnd figured it out

merry lotus Nov 28, 2021, 3:23 AM

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proven cipher There's a TAS

Yeah, the other player was asking about an AI, not a TAS. They then proceeded to describe what they were talking about as like TAS, but without the original human inputs that a TAS has.

serene dome Nov 28, 2021, 4:52 AM

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What things do I need to have to start making custom mods for hollow knight? I'm interested in making stat changes and adding spells.

lapis stratus Nov 28, 2021, 5:54 AM

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Some C# and Unity knowledge, a way to edit code (there's a mod template for Visual Studio in the pins so that might be a good place to start), and determination

serene dome Nov 28, 2021, 5:55 AM

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Is there a video to help get started that I can use?

lapis stratus Nov 28, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Not that I know of (but someone else probably knows better). There's API documentation in the pins and most of the mods have public repositories on GitHub if you want to get an idea of how things are done.

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Most of what I learned was referencing those and just playing around with things to see what happened

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I'm excited to say that 1.5 Enemy Randomizer had its first playtest. Bad news is that it was pretty buggy. Good news is that it was only about as buggy as 1.4 Enemy Randomizer was after I fixed a bunch of its issues zotewheeze

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It still needs a lot of work, but I'm feeling optimistic about its progress vesselsip

merry lotus Nov 28, 2021, 7:30 AM

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serene dome Is there a video to help get started that I can use?

If you want, you can also join the dedicated modding server (there's a link in my "About" section).
There's a dedicated dev resources channel with a lot of useful info, and it's more active with people who may be able to answer questions that you have.

nocturne falcon Nov 28, 2021, 8:38 PM

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This may be a weird question, but:
I would like to make a mod that changes the entries in the hunter's journal and the charm names. How do i do that?
and when i finish the mod, how do i make the mod load on my steam?

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If you answer, ping me!

lapis stratus Nov 28, 2021, 9:59 PM

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nocturne falcon This may be a weird question, but: I would like to make a mod that changes the e...

If you work with the mod template and set the path to your Steam HK directory, it should compile your mod in the correct folder to load

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And I've not used it but I think I heard Frogcore has a helper to make journal changes, so that might be something to look into

dim fern Nov 28, 2021, 10:51 PM

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Does a language mod exist? I was thinking about wanting to translate the game into my native language (Dutch) but didn't know if such a mod already exists, and if not - does anyone have any idea on how to go about making it? since its just changing text i figure it shouldn't be too difficult but i have no clue

rough pulsar Nov 28, 2021, 11:03 PM

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nocturne falcon This may be a weird question, but: I would like to make a mod that changes the e...

ModHooks.LanguageGetHook

vocal spire Nov 28, 2021, 11:52 PM

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dim fern Does a language mod exist? I was thinking about wanting to translate the game in...

LanguageSupport mod on scarab lets you add translations

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 2:23 AM

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@light zodiac can you explain IL. to me?

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or if anyone else could

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maybe @vocal spire

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you were rly helpful before

vocal spire Nov 29, 2021, 2:27 AM

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teal hatch <@!724954591602671628> can you explain IL. to me?

Wdym?

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That’s from an entirely different game

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Celeste

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 2:28 AM

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im wrong lol

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just ILs in general

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I want to edit a specific value in a large function

vocal spire Nov 29, 2021, 2:29 AM

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I’m not really a good person to talk about that with, sorry. I know how to use that stuff but haven’t had enough experience to explain it well

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 2:29 AM

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ok

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I cant use on and do orig(self) because the function assigns the variable in the middle of itself

vocal spire Nov 29, 2021, 2:29 AM

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It has a lot to do with the il code that can be viewed by switching from c# to il in dnspy when viewing the game’s code

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You’ll 100% need to view that

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 2:30 AM

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could i use an on to edit that variable?

vocal spire Nov 29, 2021, 2:31 AM

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If it’s in the middle, either copy the method’s code and don’t call orig, otherwise I don’t think so

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 2:32 AM

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i tried copying but it got mad

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it was underlining all of the things after this.

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so yeah if anyone could explain IL hooks that would be great

drifting night Nov 29, 2021, 2:53 AM

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yo are skin challenges still a thing

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 2:58 AM

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pretty sure yeah

light zodiac Nov 29, 2021, 3:00 AM

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teal hatch <@!724954591602671628> can you explain IL. to me?

You assume I knew shermaU

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If you show me what variable you wanna edit I could probably ||not|| figure it out

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 3:02 AM

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light zodiac If you show me what variable you wanna edit I could probably ||not|| figure it o...

private void Dash() { this.AffectedByGravity(false); this.ResetHardLandingTimer(); bool flag = this.dash_timer > this.DASH_TIME; if (flag) { this.FinishedDashing(); } else { Vector2 vector = this.OrigDashVector(); vector = ModHooks.Instance.DashVelocityChange(vector); this.rb2d.velocity = vector; this.dash_timer += Time.deltaTime; } }

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I want to edit the DASH_TIME variable

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I cant find where its value is assigned in the code so my idea was to multiply it by something here

light zodiac Nov 29, 2021, 3:04 AM

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DASH_TIME is a constant of sorts

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You done need to edit it in IL hook

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 3:05 AM

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how do i edit constants?

light zodiac Nov 29, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Just hook On.HeroController.Start and edit it using reflection

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 3:05 AM

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reflection?

light zodiac Nov 29, 2021, 3:06 AM

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ReflectionHelper.SetField<HeroController,float>(self, "DASH_TIME", {new_float})

light zodiac Nov 29, 2021, 3:06 AM

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teal hatch reflection?

A way to edit/read private values

light zodiac Nov 29, 2021, 3:07 AM

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light zodiac `ReflectionHelper.SetField<HeroController,float>(self, "DASH_TIME", {new_float})...

Self will only work if your using the hook (On.HeroController.Start)

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/Reflection.html

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 3:07 AM

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perfect thx

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i have to go to bed but ill read that tmrw

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thc for the help

light zodiac Nov 29, 2021, 4:31 AM

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light zodiac DASH_TIME is a constant of sorts

i meant by this is DASH_TIME is treated as a constant by the game (as in its never changed) but its not defined as a const so we can edit it

nocturne falcon Nov 29, 2021, 7:05 AM

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lapis stratus And I've not used it but I think I heard Frogcore has a helper to make journal c...

Sorry, but i have no idea what you are talking about. I tried to look it up, but got no results. Could you paste a link of a dll file i could edit, or a link to a website thaat explains it better?

merry lotus Nov 29, 2021, 8:06 AM

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nocturne falcon Sorry, but i have no idea what you are talking about. I tried to look it up, but...

FrogCore is a library mod. You can find it from the modlinks file.
One of the features of it is to add journal entries, but idk if it has much documentation on it.

nocturne falcon Nov 29, 2021, 8:07 AM

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Thanks!

merry lotus Nov 29, 2021, 8:07 AM

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Modlinks: https://github.com/hk-modding/modlinks/blob/main/ModLinks.xml

GitHub

modlinks/ModLinks.xml at main · hk-modding/modlinks

Hosts the list of modlinks. Contribute to hk-modding/modlinks development by creating an account on GitHub.

nocturne falcon Nov 29, 2021, 8:07 AM

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so i just open it with notepad

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and then edit the text

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right

merry lotus Nov 29, 2021, 8:07 AM

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Uh, no lol

nocturne falcon Nov 29, 2021, 8:07 AM

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whoops

merry lotus Nov 29, 2021, 8:07 AM

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You'd need to make a full mod

nocturne falcon Nov 29, 2021, 8:08 AM

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is there like some template i can use

merry lotus Nov 29, 2021, 8:08 AM

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Not really

nocturne falcon Nov 29, 2021, 8:08 AM

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or should i look up a tutorial?

merry lotus Nov 29, 2021, 8:09 AM

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There's dev resources on the modding server, but the template that's there is mostly for having all the default references pre-made iirc

nocturne falcon Nov 29, 2021, 8:10 AM

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I'll try to figure out what that means
thanks for the help! (not sarcastic)

merry lotus Nov 29, 2021, 8:14 AM

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I'm not sure which part you don't know, so I'll try to break it down a bit:

there's a dedicated hk modding server. you can find a link to it in my "About" section
HK modding is done in C#, and the files for it need to reference a lot of specific other files in order to work, and then you have to export that as a .dll

nocturne falcon Nov 29, 2021, 8:15 AM

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joined the server, thanks!

hoary grove Nov 29, 2021, 10:43 PM

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how the heck do i get started with the mod

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so

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i have the api

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but idk what to do for writing it

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wait a second radiance host has it

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nvm

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 11:07 PM

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light zodiac Self will only work if your using the hook (On.HeroController.Start)

private void ConstantChange(On.HeroController.orig_Start orig, HeroController self) { orig(self); FieldInfo DT = ReflectionHelper.GetField(typeof(HeroController), "DASH_TIME", false); DT.SetValue(1000, orig); }

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this is my code

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but its doing nothing

proven cipher Nov 29, 2021, 11:08 PM

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You should join the modding server

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It's linked in DwarfWoot's profile

teal hatch Nov 29, 2021, 11:09 PM

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perfect thx

hoary grove Nov 29, 2021, 11:21 PM

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idk what to download pls im legit clueless

vocal spire Nov 29, 2021, 11:22 PM

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hoary grove idk what to download pls im legit clueless

If you’re trying to download the code, click code, download zip

hoary grove Nov 29, 2021, 11:22 PM

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this is for an example right?

hoary grove Nov 30, 2021, 12:08 AM

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ight so

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i got shit sorted

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i am now coding

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whats the instance for equipping a charm again?

hoary grove Nov 30, 2021, 12:27 AM

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ghost msg moment

vocal spire Nov 30, 2021, 11:08 AM

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hoary grove whats the instance for equipping a charm again?

PlayerData.Instance.equippedCharm_x
Or if you want modhooks to be called (I suggest this)
PlayerData.Instance.GetBool("equippedCharm_x")

fair rampart Dec 1, 2021, 2:01 AM

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been thinking about making the HK a Waluigi skin through his spreadsheet, opinions? all I would have to do is get the appropriate software.

clear nexus Dec 1, 2021, 11:01 AM

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is there a main “tutorial/docs” on how to get into hk modding? it’s pretty overwhelming

proven cipher Dec 1, 2021, 11:12 AM

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?pins Check the pinned messages
1: Download the installer. (Checking you get the one that matches your HK patch.)
2: Extract the installer to your desktop.
3: Open the installer.
4: If your HK install is not in the default location, the installer will ask you where it is. Simply direct it to the folder that has "Hollow_knight_data" in it (NOT the Hollow Knight Data folder itself, the one that has that folder IN it)
5: Download the mods you want!

finite forumBOT Dec 1, 2021, 11:12 AM

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Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

cedar hemlock Dec 1, 2021, 11:12 AM

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palehmm

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I think they mean making mods