#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 531

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:02 AM

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make sure you only use 1 of them

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or, at least one of them

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:03 AM

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Ohh

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Ok I’m tempted to boot my computer back up now

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:04 AM

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go sleep

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 9:04 AM

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rest!

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:05 AM

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I mean I’m not that sleepy

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I’m just tired

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:05 AM

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goodknight _ _

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:05 AM

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Woke up at 3 pm yesterday

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I’m only going back because I know it will be built done and quick after I switch to usings

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does this work fine?

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I uh, googled what usings are and I got intellisense as a result

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nvm

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OH I REMEMBER NOW

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GOD HOW DID I FORGET THIS

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@cedar hemlock yeah there's UnityEngine at the top

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:14 AM

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does it work now or not?

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:14 AM

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well I only have 22 errors now

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but I still have these

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:15 AM

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well, do what it says

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reference UnityEngine.CoreModule

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 9:15 AM

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Show all your references

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:15 AM

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if I use both UnityEngine and CoreModule I get "exists in both 'X' and 'Y'" type errors

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and when I did both usings it gave me an error saying it was unnecessary to use said directive

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I've been programming on and off since 2017 so I dont know why im struggling with this

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maybe its because im inexperienced with Unity, but I'd say this is pretty simple

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so yeah im stumped on this one

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current usings:

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:18 AM

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ye reference UnityEngine.CoreModule.dll

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:20 AM

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and now its just 138 monobehavior errors

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we're getting closer

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I think I just need to reference PlayMaker

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...no?

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:21 AM

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you already have it referenced

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:22 AM

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alright I saw

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the MonoBehavior errors needs UnityEngine to be referenced but I already tried toying with that

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is there any other way to get rid of these errors?

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:33 AM

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try removing unityengine from refs and reffing it again

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:35 AM

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alright

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its back to being oofie again

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 10:18 AM

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Right click on the redlines in code and see what the lightbulb says to do

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Also doing this in 1.5?

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 10:24 AM

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I’m not even sure what version I’m trying to build at this point

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I’m aiming for 1.4

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Because that’s the popular version atm

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 10:29 AM

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fair rampart

then you have the wrong api version

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because 1.4 api doesnt have mm_hook .dlls

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what .net framework is your project

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 10:44 AM

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I’ll check when I wake up

worn eagle Aug 1, 2021, 10:46 AM

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if I can make a suggestion, putting adds in a boss fight is difficult to make fun

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 10:51 AM

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what's an add? is it like a term for spawning more enemies ?

worn eagle Aug 1, 2021, 10:53 AM

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yuh

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 10:53 AM

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gotcha

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 10:55 AM

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worn eagle if I can make a suggestion, putting adds in a boss fight is difficult to make fu...

We can talk about it when I wake up

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 11:55 AM

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aww I missed stuff happening

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Isn’t that the way we live? How desperately we try to keep up with everything in the world. Can you ever truly say that you know everything that is happening in this world?

proven cipher Aug 1, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Does anybody know what exactly was changed to make wall cling storage not work the same after 1221, and if it would be possible to patch it back in through QoL mod. (Or, of course, just a different mod.)

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 11:58 AM

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Nope. I wasn’t around during 1221. I only joined during 1.4.3.2

pure kernel Aug 1, 2021, 3:34 PM

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Hey all! I tried installing the Enemy HP Bar mod but they happen to take like half the screen when I play, since I play in 4K and it's apparently built for 1080p. I found the source of the mod (here https://github.com/ricardosouzag/Enemy-HP-Bars), I don't have any experience at all in C# but I'm a webdev, and I figured it wouldn't be complicated to change the resolution. I want to try editing stuff but I have no idea how to compile it to a DLL file, is there an easy way to do it? Thank you :)

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 3:36 PM

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pure kernel Hey all! I tried installing the Enemy HP Bar mod but they happen to take like ha...

go to the globalsettings file in your save files path and change the sizes there

pure kernel Aug 1, 2021, 3:39 PM

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you mean" ModdingApi.GlobalSettings"?

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I only see "EnemyHPBar": true in it, should I add something?

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 3:45 PM

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no

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there should be some enemyhpbar globalsettings

pure kernel Aug 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Oh, right! Nice, works perfectly now, thanks a lot :)

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 4:24 PM

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What is the status of MI 2.5 and 1.5 and 3?

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 5:20 PM

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When is MI 20 coming?

rough pulsar Aug 1, 2021, 5:29 PM

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when is mi 69.420 coming

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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how could one make fake achievements?
by that I just mean displaying like a custom achievement with a custom icon

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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SFCore

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/SFCore.html#add-custom-achievements

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:05 PM

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oh sick didn't know that was a feature
well, that'll make it a lot easier

jolly oriole Aug 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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on 1.5 that part is basically entirely broken

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until i come around to fix that

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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well, 1.4.3.2 is the mod version anyway

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what?

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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1.5 best mod version

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:07 PM

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well so should I try developing for 1.5 or 1.4.3.2

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 7:08 PM

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1.5

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I hate 1.5 with a burning passion but you should probably do it in 1.5

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:08 PM

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also, is it possible to display an achievement multiple times?

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Just remove achievement before giving it again?

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:09 PM

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oh

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Or make it have a different achievement key

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:09 PM

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I'm looking real dumb rn aren't I

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Like different key, same name/sprite

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:21 PM

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1.5 is better Saleh is just a coward

worn eagle Aug 1, 2021, 7:22 PM

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isn't ple curt already in 1.5

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how do you escape asterisks

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:23 PM

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yea

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:23 PM

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\*

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:23 PM

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to both what jingle and 56 said

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:24 PM

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I saw that

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:24 PM

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saw what?

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 7:24 PM

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nothing

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:24 PM

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good

jolly oriole Aug 1, 2021, 7:24 PM

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pale court leaks in hk main smhmyheads

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Now no one will see the エロアニメ image I posted on main

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:25 PM

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saw the impostor from among us

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he's becoming weeb

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spent too much time with sid

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:25 PM

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sid can be based sometimes

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:26 PM

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often

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:26 PM

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true

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 7:31 PM

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For if any of you ever struggle with accessibility levels:

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Why does it even need it? I mean: we have reflections so in theory every value is public

jolly oriole Aug 1, 2021, 7:32 PM

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imagine being limited to 5 keywords

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:33 PM

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reflections are slow though

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 7:34 PM

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ornate rivet reflections are slow though

I said theoretically

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 7:34 PM

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jolly oriole imagine being limited to 5 keywords

What do you mean?

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:34 PM

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because reflection to get around accessibility for random shit is a hack that becomes necessary when dealing with a game

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you don't want to just reflect every field in any random library

nova acorn Aug 1, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Isn't pale court gonna be out soon

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 7:35 PM

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I know. I said theoretically. I know it’s not practical

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:35 PM

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that's breaking the abstraction and leaves api compatible updates causing breaks due to depending on internals

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 7:37 PM

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I know. I’m just wondering what the use of accessibility is. Just make everything public and if changing a variable that has the potential to break things, make an expert keyword or something

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 7:42 PM

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The way i understand it is something like : say you make a mod , with 2 methods magic and magicAPI you expect people to use magicAPI , but i use magic , down the line you update your mod and because u expect people to only use magicAPI you change how magic works but keep magicAPI the same. but now your update breaks my mod 😦

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this wouldn't happen if you would keep magic private and magicAPI public , unless i really wanted to mess with things and used reflection to get at magic

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 7:45 PM

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floral blade this wouldn't happen if you would keep magic private and magicAPI public , unles...

That is why I suggested an expert keyword

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:45 PM

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not having print hierarchy tree is murdering me

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modcommon I love you

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why did you forsake me

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Steal it from modcommon

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:46 PM

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I couldn't compile it :(

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Oof

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I have one I could send

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Isn’t for latest patch, will fail to load, but calling stuff in it still works

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:47 PM

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ooo

worn eagle Aug 1, 2021, 7:50 PM

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is unityexplorer not good enough for you 😤

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 7:50 PM

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No

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:53 PM

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You shouldn't be using internals regardless of your level of expertise

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Because that breaks abstraction

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The only case to is when you have to or you're doing something like serialization

ornate rivet Aug 1, 2021, 7:54 PM

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vocal spire I have one I could send

send dummy

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:54 PM

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internal is so you can have things within the assembly but still keep it away from public users

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 7:54 PM

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ornate rivet send dummy

I’ll do it when I have my computer

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:54 PM

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a random user shouldn't be able to mutate list backing stores or lengths because it could very easily lead to breaking many things

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especially if your implementation uses something like unsafe because it knows due to internal state that what its doing is safe

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suddenly you've ruined internal state and read oob

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unsafe read oob so maybe a segfault maybe junk

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The other use case for reflection is just traversing fields and checking stuff dynamically

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Access protection shouldn't be ignored for no reason

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Look at something like BitConverter.ReadInt32

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if you could modify private variables you could fuck with the array length and get uninitialized data in seemingly safe code

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Hmmm…… you are right

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 7:58 PM

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While it may seem pointless on the outside it allows library refactoring to take place independently meaning you can get speed benefits and internal improvements while ensuring that the consumers are unaffected

jolly oriole Aug 1, 2021, 7:59 PM

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that sounds like what i did with sfcore's achievmenthelper

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 8:00 PM

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In cases like hollow knight some people elect to use attributes which ignore access checks along with a stripped public-ed version of the assembly so they don't have to deal with modifiers as bypassing them is necessary

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other times you get heavy use of reflection

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or unsafe

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or all of the above

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But in the general case modifiers are important for libraries and stability

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modding just makes it feel otherwise because you kinda have to bypass them a lot of the time

primal latch Aug 1, 2021, 8:02 PM

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copper nacelle modding just makes it feel otherwise because you kinda have to bypass them a lot...

Good point.

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:20 PM

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how can I check what NET framework my visual studio has?

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:20 PM

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See the csproj file

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:21 PM

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alright

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its NET Framework 3.5

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so if I wanted to build this mod for 1.4.3.2, I would have to use 4 or something along those lines?

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:27 PM

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No 3.5 is correct

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Just make sure your referencing the correct API and unity modules

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:29 PM

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because I get build errors depending on what references I have

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right now I have 18 errors for GameObject

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:30 PM

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From which folder are you referncing these stuff from?

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:30 PM

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this one

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although maybe I should redownload the references from another download

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Unity core module in API?

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:31 PM

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yeah im sort of new to this, although I understand what im supposed to do, I dont understand how to do it

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I've been programming on and off since 2017

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but never went too deep with Visual Studio

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Do you have a 1.4 install?

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:31 PM

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that may be the problem

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I initially installed 1.5 on accident

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:32 PM

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You need to reference stuff from that install

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:32 PM

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alright

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:32 PM

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#archived-modding-help pins has a guide on how to get 1.4

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:32 PM

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I already have 1.4 as my default version on Steam

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so uh, I need to move my references to the folder I just downloaded for 1.4, correct?

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and leave the Unity dlls where they were in Unity? (I copied them over)

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Wait

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Open modinstaller, download modding api from that into your 1.4 install

And then only reference dlls (including unity dlls) from the hollow_knight_Data/managed folder in your 1.4 install

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 8:41 PM

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fair rampart this one

this looks like 1.5 mapi

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:41 PM

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yeah...

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I must be doing something terribly wrong

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 8:42 PM

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have you installed mods in your 1.4.3.2 steam install?

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:42 PM

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yes

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 8:42 PM

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just copy the managed folder from there

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:42 PM

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ok

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 8:42 PM

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and use the dlls from that copy as refs

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:49 PM

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getting close to the finish line for my first test build

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 8:50 PM

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add playmaker

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:50 PM

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already did, but I solved it anyways

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making it lowercase fixed the issue

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 8:50 PM

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the g ?

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lol

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nice

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:52 PM

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uh oh

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I dont know whats causing it to exit with code 1

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 8:52 PM

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A path is probably wrong

steady comet Aug 1, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Do you have HK open?

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Or that

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:52 PM

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I dont

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oh its the path

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its trying to reach Hollow Knight in my C drive

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Where do you want it to go?

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:55 PM

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in the mods folder of my api references

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 8:56 PM

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Then just change the path in the .csproj file

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:56 PM

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hooray im learning

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 9:31 PM

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anyone know why I can't choose .net framwork 3.5 as a build option

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I installed the sdk through the visual studio installer

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 9:32 PM

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You probably choose a .net standard project

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Instead of .net framework

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 9:32 PM

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I chose class library with .net framework

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Well imma go do something else cya

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 9:32 PM

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...cool

jolly oriole Aug 1, 2021, 9:35 PM

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languid goblet I chose class library with .net framework

then it should be there

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but what do you have as options?

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 9:36 PM

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jolly oriole Aug 1, 2021, 9:37 PM

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interesting, because for me it looks like this

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 9:38 PM

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I installed the 3.5 development tools through the visual studio installer and everything, so I'm really confused as to why it's not showing up

jolly oriole Aug 1, 2021, 9:39 PM

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hm, idk

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 9:40 PM

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Could you screenshot the project type you’re choosing?

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 9:41 PM

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this one

vocal spire Aug 1, 2021, 9:43 PM

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It looks correct (I think)

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 9:56 PM

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just change in the csproj

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all my homies hate vs ui

lucid needle Aug 1, 2021, 10:01 PM

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@light zodiac i really hope it isnt a bother pinging you but i really need that source code if you have a chance to send it.

languid goblet Aug 1, 2021, 10:02 PM

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copper nacelle just change in the csproj

now the project told me to download 3.5 from here: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/visual-studio-sdks?utm_source=getdotnetsdk&utm_medium=referral
...which doesn't have the 3.5 sdk
I'm really loving this

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hmm
so apparently you need .net 3.5 installed, not just the sdk
in retrospect this was very stupid

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now time to try and code a mod I am probably never gonna finish pepegamaster

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 10:46 PM

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so im sitting here wondering what the Aim function does

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because I cant click on it on the FSMViewer without it crashing

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my plan for one of Final Radiance's attacks is to have her eye beams attack go slightly faster, but then aim again and shoot five super accurate lasers from the opposite direction of the knight

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 11:58 PM

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Ug I’m too dizzy to mod right now

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The day I fully understand fsms is the day I get to work on Final Radiance

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My issue with programming isn’t understanding the building blocks, it’s how to use them

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Sorry if I’ve been talking too much

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:33 AM

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how do i make a mod generate a ReadMe that i write?

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 1:34 AM

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why generate?

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:34 AM

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well display one

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 1:34 AM

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in game?

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:34 AM

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when someone clicks "ReadMe" in the ModInstaller.

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 1:35 AM

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you just leave a md/txt file next to the dll

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:38 AM

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im having a hard time understanding. admittedly i dont know how to mod, im just relaying this information to my modder friend who is finalizing a mod i had made. do you mean i do that while compiling?

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 1:39 AM

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lucid needle im having a hard time understanding. admittedly i dont know how to mod, im just ...

yeah

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I think?

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wait

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:39 AM

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because when i look in my mod locations, for example, DebugMod has a readme, but no txt file in the location

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 1:39 AM

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he said next to the dll

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maybe when you submit it to the modinstaller you submit a .txt file as well?

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im actually curious how modinstaller uploads are done

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:40 AM

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oh okay. yeah me too.

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glad it wasnt a stupid question. i feel like ive been asking a lot of those recently.

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 1:41 AM

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same here

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im also new to modding, but right now I just want to get a hang of FSMs and modifying attack patterns

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:43 AM

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i have to admit i dont know how to mod whatsoever. i just commissioned the mod im having done and i just needed a few more touches on it.

languid goblet Aug 2, 2021, 1:44 AM

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is it a common theme that people who ask questions here feel dumb

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 1:44 AM

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I have a faint idea how to mod

languid goblet Aug 2, 2021, 1:44 AM

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because that's me
every time I ask a question here

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 1:44 AM

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but the reason programming may not be my favorite thing to do is because I dont know how to put the building blocks together

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:45 AM

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maybe its because modding this game is SUPER daunting if youre just getting into it

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 1:45 AM

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two computer science classes and neither one told the class to experiment and use logic

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just following simple assignments

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:45 AM

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i looked at some stuff in dnSpy and was just like "what the hell"

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 1:45 AM

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@lucid needle is it daunting? I'm starting off by making a clone of Ultimatum Radiance

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I dont want to make any other types of mods other than boss mods so I mean

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:46 AM

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well to someone that barely knows how to code HTML yeah its daunting to me lol

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 1:46 AM

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I know some HTML

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keyword being some, I probably forgot some of it by now

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just be thankful this isnt Minecraft Forge

merry lotus Aug 2, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Re Readme.txt:
Mod Installer puts the readmes in a different folder

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So when you submit a mod, you should be submitting a folder that has the .dll and the readme, and then Mod Installer specifically puts readmes in one folder, and mods in the Mods folder

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That being said, to those working on the new Mod Installer(s):
can you maybe put readmes into /Mods/Readmes instead of the root folder? That might make more sense overall

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For those curious, this is where ReadMes currently get placed by ModInstaller:

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:56 AM

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ohhhhh! thank you so much!

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 2:00 AM

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there is a zip you upload

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within the zip is the dll and the readme and whatever else

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in the near future the plan is one folder per mod under the Mods folder

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So readmes and stuff are close to the mods

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 2:39 AM

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if a mod i had commissioned is finished, can i submit it for the ModInstaller? i feel its a pretty good mod. it raises how much health all enemies in the game have depending on what × you set and raises how much mask damage they do to you depending on what number you set.

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i call it the "AAA New Game Plus" modpack. (mostly because thats what the title ended up being)

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ive even been writing a ReadMe for it.

vocal spire Aug 2, 2021, 2:42 AM

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lucid needle if a mod i had commissioned is finished, can i submit it for the ModInstaller? i...

Yes

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 2:42 AM

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awesome!!! ill post it here when ive finished testing it as much as i can!

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 2:45 AM

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@lucid needle you know I had an idea for a Hard Mode of Hollow Knight where every enemy and boss is buffed to be difficult at the point you fight it

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 2:48 AM

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yeah certain enemies and bosses scale with your Nail Damage, and the mod boosts that too.

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unless you mean they scale health to your health

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or similar

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 2:56 AM

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what's the depot number for 1432 if I want to create a separate install for it?

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 2:57 AM

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It's easier to get the beta then copy the folder tbh

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The numbers are on src though I believe

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 3:01 AM

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I'm just trying to be able to use fsmviewer+assetstudio w/o having to switch patches a bunch of times

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 3:05 AM

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FeelsInvertedMan

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 3:10 AM

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mylaU

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 3:11 AM

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bruh

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mylaU

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 3:12 AM

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vocal spire Yes

currently the base mod works, but we are also getting it to play better with EnemyHPBar mod. basically: can i also update the mod after its uploaded?

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it currently works with EnemyHPBar, but the HP bars only show up when you bring the bosses to vanilla health

floral blade Aug 2, 2021, 3:16 AM

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worn eagle <:mylaU:737996057715277906>

Hold up is this teamcherry 🍝 ????

vocal spire Aug 2, 2021, 3:38 AM

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lucid needle currently the base mod works, but we are also getting it to play better with Ene...

Yes

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 3:42 AM

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thank you!!! this is exciting!

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 4:15 AM

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does the AreaTitle component even do anything

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 5:02 AM

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Ig its for area titles, but i cant check rn

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:35 AM

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languid goblet is it a common theme that people who ask questions here feel dumb

don't worry, you're not alone hornetsip

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:38 AM

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fair rampart because I cant click on it on the FSMViewer without it crashing

Which Viewer are you using? The new one (Avalonia) isn't meant to crash so much

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:39 AM

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Avalonia isn’t in the pins

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:39 AM

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Lemme find it for you

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It also looks slightly more aesthetically pleasing

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https://github.com/nesrak1/FSMViewAvalonia/releases/tag/v3

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This is what I was given two months ago

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:40 AM

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I’m on mobile right now so if you dm it to me I’ll download it tomorrow

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:40 AM

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👌

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What are you working on btw?

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:40 AM

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I’m still trying to fully figure out fsms for my radiance mod

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Because I want to be more than just some ultimatum radiance clone

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:41 AM

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Ah

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Radiance

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:41 AM

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Like symmetrical phase 4 platforms and maybe some other mechanics

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I learned some Visual Studio stuff so that’s cool

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:42 AM

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I personally prefer modding things that don't get much attention

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:42 AM

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I’m doing radiance first because it’s simple with the code from ultimatum radiance to go off of

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:42 AM

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But it's always fun to see a new radiance hornetsip

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:42 AM

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fair rampart I’m doing radiance first because it’s simple with the code from ultimatum radian...

Ah, good choice

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:42 AM

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But nearly every radiance mod feels the same

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Always best when you have something to base

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 5:43 AM

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jolly jungle I personally prefer modding things that don't get much attention

like sheo? smirkrad

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:43 AM

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Except for AnyRadiance 2 but that’s just a bullshit hard boss

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:43 AM

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fair rampart But nearly every radiance mod feels the same

ikr? it's all just "faster and more overlapping"

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:43 AM

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worn eagle like sheo? <:smirkrad:588018548895645706>

Yeah but the spritesheet isn't done yet

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 5:43 AM

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wait you're working on a sheo mod?

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:43 AM

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fair rampart Like symmetrical phase 4 platforms and maybe some other mechanics

How about markoth platforms shroompog

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Also lunatic radiance but I’m not at that level yet to make a literal hollow Knight bullet hell

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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worn eagle wait *you're* working on a sheo mod?

Wait someone else already is?

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Damnit

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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jolly jungle How about markoth platforms <:shroompog:585688871552155649>

I was thinking Markoth attuned platforms would work

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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that somebody else may be me

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Eyy, nice hollowknice

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 5:45 AM

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idk, what was your idea?

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:45 AM

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I didn't actually start, I

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m in the middle of colo stuff

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:45 AM

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I just don’t know how to carry out enemy spawns if I ever make it to that point

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:45 AM

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wdym runick?

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:45 AM

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For Final Radiance

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I may have phase 4 be a custom enemy spawn phase

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:45 AM

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you wanted to add spawns? shroompog

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Epiccc

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:45 AM

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Yeah

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But it’s gonna be hard to balance

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Hm, maybe

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Gotta find the right infected enemies that don’t just fly offscreen or fall in the void to start

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Before balancing, though, comes making sure you can even spawn them in

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do you have any idea how you want it?

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Well

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The only idea I had so far was 2 primal Aspids while radiance shoots a laser every 5 seconds

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:47 AM

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I'd suggest a timed spawn rather than a attack-based spawn

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:47 AM

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Yeah that MIGHT be easier

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But I’m still struggling with fsms so I’ll have to focus on learning that first

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:47 AM

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make a timer separate from her attacks and such

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:48 AM

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I know how they work but getting custom eye beams to work is another thing

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:48 AM

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ooh, I feel you

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Before the colo stuff, I was in the middle of working on a Crystal Guardian mod

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Ooh

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:49 AM

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So yeah custom beams ;-;

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Anyhow good luck

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You'll figure it out

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Should I focus on the light orbs attack first?

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Depends what your idea is

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Because my idea is to have them spawn at the eyes like a Gatling gun

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:49 AM

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ah, nice

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:49 AM

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So a bit more basic than lasers

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:50 AM

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yeah, that should be simple

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:50 AM

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So far I sort of got them to spawn faster

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:50 AM

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you'll only need to change their spawn position, and speed

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:50 AM

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So uh

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Light orb antics is their random spawn location I presume?

jolly jungle Aug 2, 2021, 5:51 AM

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tamershrug

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look in the actions

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I never looked at radiance's fsm

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 5:51 AM

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It’s kinda understandable

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Especially since I read some of the api docs

primal latch Aug 2, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Fun fact: I leaked Fyremoth yesterday

cedar hemlock Aug 2, 2021, 8:01 AM

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fun fact: we got rickrolled on a massive scale yesterday

primal latch Aug 2, 2021, 8:03 AM

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True

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I was there

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 8:12 AM

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cedar hemlock fun fact: we got rickrolled on a massive scale yesterday

it was fun

cedar hemlock Aug 2, 2021, 8:12 AM

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cruel is the better word

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 8:16 AM

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nah, was real fun commiting mass piracy by letting people download the original rickroll video

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 12:02 PM

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so uh

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is the preloaded buzzer a part of the 1.5 api

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 12:04 PM

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uh, idk what you mean with

preloaded buzzer
but generally i think no

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 12:07 PM

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nvm it was on 1432

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from...debug?

light zodiac Aug 2, 2021, 12:19 PM

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Buzzer is vengefly?

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 12:22 PM

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ye

light zodiac Aug 2, 2021, 12:22 PM

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I did it so I could make self damage work

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 12:22 PM

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mylaU

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 12:23 PM

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constructing a damage box on the fly isn't that difficult, y'know?

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// this can be put whereever you want to let the player die
var go = new GameObject("death", typeof(BoxCollider2D), typeof(DamageHero))
go.Layer = 8;
var bc2d = go.GetComponent<BoxCollider2D>();
bc2d.size = new Vector2(4, 4);
bc2d.isTrigger = true; // might be named differently
var dh = go.GetComponent<DamageHero>();
dh.damageType = 1;
dh.damageDealt = (PlayerData.instance.GetInt("health")+PlayerData.instance.GetInt("healthBlue")+PlayerData.instance.GetInt("joniHealth")) * 2;
go.transform.position = HeroController.instance.transform.position;

light zodiac Aug 2, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Nice

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 12:37 PM

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what linq expr could I use to get an array of all the waits/randomwaits in an fsm?

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FsmStateAction[] waits = _fsm.FsmStates.Select(state => state.Actions).SelectMany(actions => actions).Where(action => action is Wait || action is RandomWait).ToArray();

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 12:55 PM

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looks about right

primal latch Aug 2, 2021, 1:28 PM

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light zodiac I did it so I could make self damage work

Does the player, you know, have a damage function?

light zodiac Aug 2, 2021, 1:32 PM

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Ik it does

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It needed a gameobject as parameter

primal latch Aug 2, 2021, 1:33 PM

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Just create an empty one

light zodiac Aug 2, 2021, 1:33 PM

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Makes sense

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I tried to keep the original function same so I don't break anything

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 1:35 PM

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just do what i did and don't even interact with that yourself, as that can only go wrong

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 1:37 PM

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does "Lord" sound like a step up from "Master"

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I wanna refrain from using "God" that's used in a billion other mods

light zodiac Aug 2, 2021, 1:38 PM

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King?

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Paintking Sheo 😐

light zodiac Aug 2, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Sounds like a knock-off tbh

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 1:43 PM

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do it like soul master

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so Painttyrrant Sheo

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Paint Tarkus Sheo

floral blade Aug 2, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Art Director Sheo

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mastersmirk

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Production Manager Sheo

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 2:09 PM

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i want to speak to your manager

ornate rivet Aug 2, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Paint Lord sounds the best imo

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 2:24 PM

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bruh

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just everything about that

ornate rivet Aug 2, 2021, 2:30 PM

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oh shoot

floral blade Aug 2, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Paint Ninja Sheo

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 2:32 PM

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is it possible to export a unity shader to a file at runtime?

ornate rivet Aug 2, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I dont think so
at least I doubt there's a non-hacky way to do it

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 2:33 PM

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trying to get Default/Sprites-ColorFlash and modify it to replace the brush tip and slash colors

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though idek if you can load a shader at runtime like that

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utinyripper saves the day

rough pulsar Aug 2, 2021, 2:47 PM

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gamer

ornate rivet Aug 2, 2021, 2:53 PM

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I thought Utiny couldn't rip shaders properly

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 3:22 PM

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Oh no, not shaders again

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 5:30 PM

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would I have to hack around with assetbundles to get a shader to load at runtime, if at all?

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 5:30 PM

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once you load the assetbundle itself it should be fine i think

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 5:43 PM

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ok so utiny doesn't work after all

ornate rivet Aug 2, 2021, 6:18 PM

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maybe assetripper will

charred topaz Aug 2, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Wouldn’t that still give you the compiled versions of them?

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 7:21 PM

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alright for today im going to study FSMs

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 7:21 PM

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My condolences

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 7:22 PM

#

hi 56

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 7:22 PM

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hi 56

ornate rivet Aug 2, 2021, 7:22 PM

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hi 56

floral blade Aug 2, 2021, 7:23 PM

#

hi 56

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 7:24 PM

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hi 56

charred topaz Aug 2, 2021, 7:24 PM

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hi 56

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 7:31 PM

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hi

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 7:32 PM

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has anyone done runtime shader loading with tk2d

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getting the cursed magenta square

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 7:33 PM

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hmm

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FindFsmFloat and the such seems to be errored out. Has there been any changes to that command since it has been put up on the APIDocs?

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 7:34 PM

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worn eagle getting the cursed magenta square

should in theory only be assigning the shader to the tk2dsprites material

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 7:34 PM

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.Fsm.FindFsmFloat

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 7:34 PM

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so uh

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the prefix Fsm should be replaced with any Fsm im trying to pull it from, correct?

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like _attackCommands.FindFsmFloat?

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because thats what I did

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I also put a using for Playmaker

#

what im trying to do specifically is set the position of the orbs to 0, but im not sure if that will make it spawn in the center of Radiance or if it will spawn at the map coordinate 0,0

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 7:36 PM

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there're like 80 material and materialInst fields on tk2dSprite, tk2dSpriteDefinition, etc

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 7:36 PM

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most of the definitions share a material

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if you loop through all of them on the animator it should be plenty

steady comet Aug 2, 2021, 7:37 PM

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copper nacelle .Fsm.FindFsmFloat

Is this a change from 1.4? I would have done pfsm.FsmVariables.FindFsmFloat there

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 7:38 PM

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tk2dSprite.GetCurrentSpriteDef().material

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 7:39 PM

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you can do either I'm fairly sure

steady comet Aug 2, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Oh right

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Uhh

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 7:43 PM

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struct v2f
{
    float4 vertex   : SV_POSITION;
    fixed4 color : COLOR;
    float2 texcoord  : TEXCOORD0;
};

fixed4 _Color;
fixed4 _FlashColor;

v2f vert(appdata_t IN)
{
    v2f OUT;
    OUT.vertex = UnityObjectToClipPos(IN.vertex);
    OUT.texcoord = IN.texcoord;
    OUT.color = IN.color * _Color;
    #ifdef PIXELSNAP_ON
    OUT.vertex = UnityPixelSnap(OUT.vertex);
    #endif

    return OUT;
}

sampler2D _MainTex;
sampler2D _AlphaTex;
float _AlphaSplitEnabled;
float _FlashAmount;
float4 _ColorKey;
float4 _ReplacementColor;

fixed4 SampleSpriteTexture(float2 uv)
{
  fixed4 color = tex2D(_MainTex, uv);

  #if UNITY_TEXTURE_ALPHASPLIT_ALLOWED
  if (_AlphaSplitEnabled)
    color.a = tex2D(_AlphaTex, uv).r;
  #endif //UNITY_TEXTURE_ALPHASPLIT_ALLOWED

  return color;
}

fixed4 frag(v2f IN) : SV_Target
{
  fixed4 c = SampleSpriteTexture(IN.texcoord) * IN.color;
  /*if (c.r == _ColorKey.r &&
  c.g == _ColorKey.g &&
  c.b == _ColorKey.b)
  {*/
  c = _ReplacementColor;
  //}
  c.rgb = lerp(c.rgb, _FlashColor.rgb, _FlashAmount);
  c.rgb *= c.a;
  return c;
}

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just trying to get the whole sprite to be a certain color for now

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 7:48 PM

#

cacopog

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and so it begins

the testing

ornate rivet Aug 2, 2021, 7:50 PM

#

very good

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 7:51 PM

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he's become khan

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 7:53 PM

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whos khan

#

well oops

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 8:02 PM

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get qol and save yourself 10 seconds on every test

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 8:02 PM

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ok

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 8:03 PM

#

wai

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 8:07 PM

#

imagine if someone made a magenta square boss mod

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 8:07 PM

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check the player log tbh

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and if you look up the default shaders you can find some impls to test if those work

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Ug, i'm not sure why this isnt working basil_cry

            _attackCommands.GetAction<SetFloatValue>("Orb Pos", 1).floatValue = 0f;
            _attackCommands.GetAction<SetFloatValue>("Orb Pos", 3).floatValue = 0f;
            _attackCommands.GetAction<SetFloatValue>("Orb Pos", 4).floatValue = 0f;
            _attackCommands.FsmVariables.GetFsmFloat("Orb Max X").Value = 0f;
            _attackCommands.FsmVariables.GetFsmFloat("Orb Max Y").Value = 0f;```

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Im also not sure why its going slower now

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 8:20 PM

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using the result of Shader.Find("Sprites/Default-ColorFlash") works fine

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 8:24 PM

#

what the

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orb machine broke

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

you probably set the velocity

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 8:25 PM

#

fair rampart what the

video won't load for me

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 8:26 PM

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yeah I set velocity on accident

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maybe I got the wrong index

#

wait a second... velocity is not only position, but also direction and speed

#

but they still didnt all spawn at the same spot. weird

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 8:28 PM

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you set the max to 0 idk what the min is and both might get set before that state

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and then you changed setfloatvalue not randomfloat

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 8:29 PM

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fair rampart Ug, i'm not sure why this isnt working <:basil_cry:821265255803387914> ```_att...

I sent the code that does that up here

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oh

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yeah maybe thats the problem

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well im doing something right, they're spawning on the floor now

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 9:19 PM

#

didnt know whether to ask this in Modding-Help or here but my buddy and i just finished polishing up a mod ive been having work done on, its a nearly perfect mod if i do say so myself, but every time i open ModInstaller, it tells me its outdated. well, it cant be outdated, there is nothing to update to. any fix for this?

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actually i think we figured it out: i had an older version in my Disabled Folder

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 9:25 PM

#

quirrelpog

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 9:26 PM

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now have that work correctly ingame

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 9:27 PM

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having it work in game shouldn't be bad

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 9:40 PM

#

fleacrying

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 9:41 PM

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rip

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did you build the shaderbundle for your platform?

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 9:43 PM

#

yeah, Standalone Windows

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 9:44 PM

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hm

#

may be good to inquire how asciicamera was made

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 10:08 PM

#

how do i submit a mod to display on the ModInstaller? i think this mod is finished, and its an absolute banger of a mod.

jolly oriole Aug 2, 2021, 10:08 PM

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make a pull request for https://github.com/ricardosouzag/ModInstaller with your mod added in modlinks.xml

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 10:09 PM

#

awesome! thank you!

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 11:21 PM

#

all this just to make some colored paint that probably won't even look good

ornate rivet Aug 2, 2021, 11:21 PM

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but if you figure it out, it will be progress for all mods

lucid needle Aug 2, 2021, 11:23 PM

#

jolly oriole make a pull request for <https://github.com/ricardosouzag/ModInstaller> with you...

done. do i link it here? or just wait?

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 11:25 PM

#

what do you want to do to the paint again

#

I can give it a shot

#

I have a working shader thing for something else

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 11:25 PM

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I want to chroma key the brush tip and paint slash colors into different colors so there're more than just 4

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 11:26 PM

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so have like a field on the material shader to change the active color or for each individual object?

#

they share a sheet I'm pretty sure

#

I guess you could do it based on the original and some modification of the color from there

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 11:27 PM

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yeah, the active color in the whole sheet

#

here's the shader that worked in the engine

📎 SpritesDefault-ColorFlashKey.shader

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 11:27 PM

#

what color is the one you want to kill

#

Alright

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 11:28 PM

#

for now I'm just trying to replace all white pixels with black

copper nacelle Aug 2, 2021, 11:28 PM

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alright

#

I'll try it in a bit

worn eagle Aug 2, 2021, 11:28 PM

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'preciate it

fair rampart Aug 2, 2021, 11:51 PM

#

im sitting here wondering how to do Final Rad's eye beams

#

because I know what I WANT to do, but I dont know how I would pull it off

#

I might need to insert some events too and I barely know how to do that

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 12:29 AM

#

got the latest unityexplorer working for 1.5

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 12:40 AM

#

epic

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 12:52 AM

#

11gb later

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 12:54 AM

#

unityoooooooooooo

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 12:57 AM

#

unityexplorer is voring all my game inputs

charred topaz Aug 3, 2021, 12:58 AM

#

worn eagle got the latest unityexplorer working for 1.5

Looks better than the solution I came up with. I tried porting yasirkula's Runtime Inspector

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 1:03 AM

#

but when I try to say my favorite c word, the bot gets mad

#

racism

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:05 AM

#

true

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 1:05 AM

#

wtf they deleted mine

#

actually racism

#

clearly jingle has some dirt over the mods

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:06 AM

#

voring

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 1:06 AM

#

wtf

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:06 AM

#

the noun is different than the present participle

#

it only does the former

#

hello water

meager herald Aug 3, 2021, 1:07 AM

#

yeah we'll get to that eventually, lets not make that word a topic ever thanks

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:08 AM

#

why does my config.ini keep resetting on game start

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:08 AM

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to suffer

#

Does it parse?

#

If it does then just make the file immutable

#

Can't lose

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:09 AM

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UnityExplorer 4.2.0 initializing...
Cached AppDomain assemblies in 1.411387 seconds
Initialized Legacy Input support
Unable to patch Cursor.set_lockState: Invalid generic arguments
Parameter name: typeArguments
Unable to patch Cursor.set_visible: Invalid generic arguments
Parameter name: typeArguments
Unable to patch EventSystem.set_current: Invalid generic arguments
Parameter name: typeArguments
Unable to patch EventSystem.SetSelectedGameObject: Invalid generic arguments
Parameter name: typeArguments
Finished core setup, waiting for UI setup...
Creating UI...
Loading modern bundle for Unity 2020.2.2f1

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:09 AM

#

amazing

#

i thought you meant the game's ini

#

with the fps lock shit

#

🦀

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:10 AM

#

🤌

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:10 AM

#

extremely true

#

pinchers

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:13 AM

#

live footage of config.ini getting nuked whilst starting hk

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:17 AM

#

omegaMaggotPrime

#

it's tk2d?

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:19 AM

#

what, the shader?

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:19 AM

#

no the sheo

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:19 AM

#

oh, yeah

#

not trying to go to weavercore levels of recreation

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:20 AM

#

🥴

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might've gone a bit overkill

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:25 AM

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pog

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:25 AM

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idk how battle scene children includes the knight

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but alright then

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Was your problem shader code or mod code?

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or should i just give both

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:25 AM

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mod code, it looked alright in unity, just not in game

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:26 AM

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📎 Jingle.cs

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:26 AM

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did you modify the shader file at all?

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:26 AM

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i did not use your shader ngl

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i took one i had and deleted 90% of it

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very boring shader

📎 Jingle.shader

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only the bottom subshader is used

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can just kinda yeet everything else

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and the bottom subshader is just dot the delta from a constant vec and check if it's under a threshold, if so change the fragment output

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:34 AM

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what's _Pain

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:35 AM

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i was trying to scale the level of randomness in the color

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i believe

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though that part doesn't matter

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41-185 are commented out

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:35 AM

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mhm

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did you reference anything to make this?

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 1:36 AM

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the glitch one is like robbed

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that is why it is mit

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shortened if you just want the color exchange part

📎 Jingle.shader

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:37 AM

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guess I have to incorporate sprite flashing now

tawdry veldt Aug 3, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Hi is there a way I can make a mod where I change a bunch of sprites

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 2:18 AM

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are my drivers fucked or what

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can someone w 1.5 api check if this works

📎 Jingle.7z

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this is a project with literally just the class that 56 gave plus an ab containing the jingle shader

charred topaz Aug 3, 2021, 2:29 AM

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I can give it a try

merry lotus Aug 3, 2021, 2:30 AM

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worn eagle can someone w 1.5 api check if this works

I can check in like an hour

charred topaz Aug 3, 2021, 2:37 AM

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One unrelated bug I found is that if a single mod fails to load, the mod list in the corner doesn't seem to show up. I got this when I added Jingle's mod but forgot Vasi

charred topaz Aug 3, 2021, 2:41 AM

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worn eagle are my drivers fucked or what

Got the same issue

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 2:42 AM

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maybe I shouldn't be building bundles on 2020.3.15f? or using assetbundle-browser at all?

charred topaz Aug 3, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Maybe, but then I would think it would throw an exception at this point if it was the asset bundle:

 Shader[] shaders = ab.LoadAllAssets<Shader>();

if (shaders == null || shaders.Length == 0) 
    throw new InvalidOperationException("Unable to load shader!");

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 2:48 AM

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could try this bundle if you want

📎 jingle

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this is 2020.2.2

charred topaz Aug 3, 2021, 2:48 AM

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I'm also seeing this in the Player.Log file:

D3D shader create error for vertex shader [0x80070057]

It shows up when the Sheo Scene is loaded and it's printed twice

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56's bundle fixed it 👍

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 2:56 AM

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copper nacelle could try this bundle if you want

did you use assetbundle-browser or did you write a script?

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 2:59 AM

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former

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 3:05 AM

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it was the unity version

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the days of using a newer version of unity to make bundles is over 😔

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 5:08 AM

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Assetbundle browser WutFace

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 7:45 AM

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The fsm viewer in the pins doesn't seem to work. It keeps crashing. Anyone got another program?

jolly jungle Aug 3, 2021, 7:54 AM

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fsmviewer avalonia

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https://github.com/nesrak1/FSMViewAvalonia/releases/tag/v3 @primal latch

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 7:55 AM

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thanks

vestal plover Aug 3, 2021, 7:57 AM

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To be fair, I can't seem to open some FSMs in FSMViewAvalonia either. It just crashes when I try to open .../Crossroads_10_boss.unity and then the False Knight New-FalseyControl FSM.

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:22 AM

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vestal plover To be fair, I can't seem to open some FSMs in FSMViewAvalonia either. It just cr...

https://github.com/nesrak1/FSMViewAvalonia/issues hotdogHotdog

lucid needle Aug 3, 2021, 8:22 AM

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is there a mod that multiplies the amount of Geo you gain?

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 8:32 AM

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lucid needle is there a mod that multiplies the amount of Geo you gain?

no. Also, wrong channel. Go to #modding-discussion

lucid needle Aug 3, 2021, 8:33 AM

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sorry. i figured to ask here because my next question was going to be asking for one.

cedar hemlock Aug 3, 2021, 8:35 AM

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should be easy enough

lucid needle Aug 3, 2021, 8:36 AM

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cedar hemlock should be easy enough

awesome. i could even swing you a tip for it if you wanted.

cedar hemlock Aug 3, 2021, 8:37 AM

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nah, i've put more effort in a mod than multiplying some ints

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~~watch me regret that sentence~~

lucid needle Aug 3, 2021, 8:38 AM

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cool. i figured it was as easy as just multiplication. but like you said, watch us regret saying that lol

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 10:18 AM

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my rate is $40/hr and I estimate such a mod will take a full work week

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 10:23 AM

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and that is if you work 24/7

jolly jungle Aug 3, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Damn, that's cheap af

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 10:35 AM

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i take payment and then start to work ofc

jolly jungle Aug 3, 2021, 10:38 AM

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how do I manually recreate some of the effects of a dreamnail hitting an enemy?

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I don't know how to find them with DnSpy

steady comet Aug 3, 2021, 10:48 AM

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jolly jungle I don't know how to find them with DnSpy

There's a component called EnemyDreamnailReaction

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I would guess that has what you're looking for, based on the name

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 10:50 AM

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_dreamImpactPrefab = _dreamNailableEnemy.GetComponent<EnemyDreamnailReaction>().GetAttr<EnemyDreamnailReaction, GameObject>("dreamImpactPrefab");

jolly jungle Aug 3, 2021, 10:51 AM

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steady comet There's a component called EnemyDreamnailReaction

I know, I deleted it on an enemy and I want to only partially recreate the effects of it

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 10:51 AM

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oh wait I think that uses modcommon mylaU

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shouldn't be hard to adapt it to ReflectionHelper tho

jolly jungle Aug 3, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Oh god, reflections

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I still have no idea what they are or how they work

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Anyhow I'll need to continue this later

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 12:07 PM

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is the proper way to set shader parameters with Material.Set{x}() or by assigning a MaterialPropertyBlock to a Renderer?

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I was using Color when I should've been using Color32

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 12:32 PM

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yooo

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 1:04 PM

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damn, a normal filename lol

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but nice

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:07 PM

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oh no the paint particles are still the same color

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 1:18 PM

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prob either hardcoded or not part of the normal sheet

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somewhere in the fsm i mean

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i hate qml

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 1:28 PM

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is cpp not available

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 1:29 PM

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nothing about hk, just ranting in general

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though i could force it onto people with mi3

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would be nice, because it looks fucking awful

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 2:03 PM

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could the object pool be causing these audio glitches

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private void AudioPlayOneShotSingle(AudioClip clip)
{
    GameObject actor = ObjectPoolExtensions.Spawn(_audioPlayerActor, transform.position);
    var audioSource = actor.GetComponent<AudioSource>();
    audioSource.clip = clip;
    audioSource.Play();
}

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 2:10 PM

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shouldn't be

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as you manually set one to play

patent zealot Aug 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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worn eagle could the object pool be causing these audio glitches

there are no such things as mistakes

merry lotus Aug 3, 2021, 4:10 PM

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worn eagle oh no the paint particles are still the same color

Wait, are you making a colorblind-friendly Sheo‽

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 4:13 PM

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ig, since it'll cover the entire rainbow everyone'll be able to see a color

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private void AudioPlayOneShotSingle(AudioClip clip)
{
    StartCoroutine(Play());

    IEnumerator Play()
    {
        GameObject actor = ObjectPoolExtensions.Spawn(_audioPlayerActor, transform.position);
        var audioSource = actor.GetComponent<AudioSource>();
        audioSource.clip = clip;
        audioSource.pitch = 1;
        audioSource.Play();

        yield return new WaitWhile(() => audioSource.isPlaying);

        audioSource.clip = null;
        actor.Recycle();
    }
}

hacky af but works

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 4:16 PM

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welcome to programming

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 4:17 PM

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does fsmviewer crash for anyone on these two specific states in nailmaster_sheo?

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there's only one action on each but it's weird

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 4:20 PM

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which scene

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wait nvm

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works with fsmviewavalonia

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but looks about as nice

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 4:30 PM

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worn eagle could the object pool be causing these audio glitches

omg keep them lol

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 4:37 PM

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temple of the ~~kevins~~ sheos

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 6:07 PM

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can I use hooks in classes that aren't the main class? (the one that extends from Mod)

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 6:07 PM

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yeah

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 6:30 PM

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what's the difference between the takehealth and takedamage hooks?

light zodiac Aug 3, 2021, 6:31 PM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/Hooks.html#takehealthhook

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 6:35 PM

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there's no entry for TakeDamageHook

light zodiac Aug 3, 2021, 6:36 PM

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It's right below

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/Hooks.html#aftertakedamagehook

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 6:37 PM

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that's AfterTakeDamageHook
unless the "after" doesn't mean anything

light zodiac Aug 3, 2021, 6:37 PM

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80% sure it's reffering to takedamage hook

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 6:37 PM

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hmm ok

steady comet Aug 3, 2021, 6:40 PM

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TakeDamageHook and AfterTakeDamageHook are different

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The difference appears to be the timing (unsurprising IG), https://github.com/hk-modding/api/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/Patches/HeroController.cs#L532

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I'm just using takehealth for now

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also, does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? debug log says the coroutine is throwing a null reference exception

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ngl I'm kinda just bs-ing my way through this

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 6:49 PM

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I have no idea what this is supposed to do

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 6:50 PM

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set health to 1 after taking damage, restores health back to what it would be after 5 seconds

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 7:48 PM

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is there a way to have your string be processed by language get hook ?

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Yes

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 7:49 PM

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like if howwow knyght mod is installed , i want to put my own strings in the hook so that my strings are owoified

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Idk how though

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 7:49 PM

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floral blade like if howwow knyght mod is installed , i want to put my own strings in the hoo...

Don’t mind me. Just gonna send some code

steady comet Aug 3, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Just add something to the hook that returns the string you want

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 7:50 PM

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primal latch Don’t mind me. Just gonna send some code

Forgot github didn’t load on mobile for me. Nevermind.

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 7:50 PM

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you just need proper priority

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if the text transformation is after your own strings then they'll be changed

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I need to get the like monomod hook priority thing

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It's so good

primal latch Aug 3, 2021, 7:51 PM

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copper nacelle you just need proper priority

Or just call string transformation using reflections

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 7:51 PM

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right so when i call orig , if i am the top dog then all other mods get my values , and if i dont call orig other mods just dont get the hook?

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(ones after my mod i mean)

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:52 PM

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tot's strings get owofied on 1.4.3.2

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and i didn't do anything special

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 7:52 PM

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even custom strings that might not exist in the original game?

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 7:53 PM

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what's your mod name btw

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 7:53 PM

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like i make my own tmpro for them for example

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 7:53 PM

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dandy

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your mother asked zaliant

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 7:54 PM

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copper nacelle what's your mod name btw

i work on many mods, i mean no particular one here.
just trying to understand how the priority thing works. because i have been recommending to people to always call orig so it wont break.

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the one that might apply here would be smolknight i think if i get around to making the new area i planned

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 7:56 PM

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are you monomod hooking the language or what

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I mean just going through normal language and language get should get transformed

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:57 PM

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i think owo-mod 1.4.3.2 even uses a high/low priority, which ever makes it go last

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 7:57 PM

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how though if i just make my own tmpro and put it on a go and put my text in it as a string i dont see how it would be owofied

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i can see dialog boxes being owofied

steady comet Aug 3, 2021, 7:57 PM

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owo mod 1.4 doesn't actually use the languagegethook, it does the detour thing on the function

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:57 PM

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floral blade how though if i just make my own tmpro and put it on a go and put my text in it ...

don't set the text yourself, let it be set with SetTmproText or something

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:57 PM

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steady comet owo mod 1.4 doesn't actually use the languagegethook, it does the detour thing o...

wtf

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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jolly oriole don't set the text yourself, let it be set with `SetTmproText` or something

it's a monobehaviour

steady comet Aug 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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jolly oriole wtf

If this wtf is "what do you mean" then I don't really know how to explain it https://github.com/henpemaz/HowwowKnyight/blob/master/HowwowKnyight.cs#L54

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:00 PM

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aaa what is this

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:01 PM

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jolly oriole don't set the text yourself, let it be set with `SetTmproText` or something

and that uses languageGet internally ? 😮

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:03 PM

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steady comet If this wtf is "what do you mean" then I don't really know how to explain it htt...

if i understood correctly this just makes a new hook from languageGet ? does that somehow make it the last thing that runs ?

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i am confuse

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:04 PM

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floral blade and that uses languageGet internally ? 😮

yes

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:04 PM

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also if i dont call orig do other mods just not get the hook?

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if they registered the hook after my mod ?

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:05 PM

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steady comet If this wtf is "what do you mean" then I don't really know how to explain it htt...

this looks strongly like decomp for some reason

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ignore access checks to

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fucked up

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 8:30 PM

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does this attack look interesting

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wanna avoid repeating mistakes like traitor SHOD by listening to feedback

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 8:42 PM

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yeah

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:46 PM

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for 1432 you need unity 2017 to make asset bundle and 1.5 u need 2020 ? or are the bundles cross version compatible ?

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 8:51 PM

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looks great

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 8:52 PM

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floral blade for 1432 you need unity 2017 to make asset bundle and 1.5 u need 2020 ? or are t...

they're not cross compatible

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:52 PM

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you can use 2017 ones in 2020 though

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:52 PM

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but can i save the unity project reopen it in another version and re build using the bundle tool menu thing ?

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 8:52 PM

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huh really? why did I have to rebuild pale court then?

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yea you can reopen the same project in a different version

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:53 PM

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ornate rivet huh really? why did I have to rebuild pale court then?

shaders/scripts/whatever

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 8:53 PM

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probably that yea

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:53 PM

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i am going to be following your video saleh, anything i should note to do differently? (since you marked it as kinda outdated)

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and do minor / patch versions matter or can i take any 2020 unity and any 2017 unity

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 8:54 PM

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get the specific one hk uses

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 8:54 PM

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2020.2.2f for 1.5

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:54 PM

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floral blade and do minor / patch versions matter or can i take any 2020 unity and any 2017 u...

2017.4.10 / 2020.2.2

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 8:55 PM

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I found that I could bundle for 1.4 with unity 2018 but best to be safe

ornate rivet Aug 3, 2021, 8:55 PM

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I dont think anything else changes besides that in my video
The api might be a bit different from my code in hk 1.5

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:56 PM

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and considering i am on mac do i need windows build support for asset bundling ?

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:56 PM

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only when dealing with shaders

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:56 PM

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i probably wont be doing it but will download it to be safe

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:56 PM

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but then you'd need a bundle for each platform

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:57 PM

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this is what i am installing rn

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:58 PM

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jolly oriole but then you'd need a bundle for each platform

aaa probably wont deal with shaders intentionally any time soon

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also like is the blender plane thing necessary or can i just draw a png and import it as long as i draw my collider on it big enough that the knight can fit the gaps ?

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 8:59 PM

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as long as you have something that looks like collision it should work

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 8:59 PM

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i assumed that the blender thing was to help with unity units

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:00 PM

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me/saleh/others are using blender because that's likely what TC also did

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as the vanilla scenes also have their terrain in mesh chunks

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:00 PM

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okay i'll just do that too then

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another question, how do i skin the blocks so they look different? they're not a GO so adding a sprite doesnt make sense

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:02 PM

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the blocks?

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 9:04 PM

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how could I handle two possible coroutine paths based on a condition?

yield return new WaitUntil(() => {
    if (Mathf.Abs(_hero.transform.position.x - transform.position.x) <= _dStabRange)
    {
        StartCoroutine(DStabAntic());
        //yield break;
    }
    return IsGrounded();
});

StartCoroutine(Land());

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do I have to use like a bool

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:06 PM

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jolly oriole `the blocks`?

The thing that is the terrian that we divided into squares in blender

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:08 PM

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that is done in vanilla with meshrenderes, or the mesh, i actually don't know what you mean with skin, so they look different
you have a mesh that is up to 32x32 units, shows maybe a path or something
have a go, with meshfilter and meshrenderer, so the mesh is visible (with black color to be vanilla)
then either edgecollider2ds or polygoncollider2ds, depending on what you want, polygon is imo better, but TC uses edgecollider

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:09 PM

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so in saleh's video the mesh thing looks like a grey shape in game, but in game the things are clearly not black and like floor or whatever right ?

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so i meant how do i take a png of how i want the floor to look like and make it look like that in game

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so i get that you'd need a collider of some sort to make the knight be able to walk and climb on it

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but i also want it to not be grey and look like prettier

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:12 PM

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floral blade so in saleh's video the mesh thing looks like a grey shape in game, but in game ...

that's because in the video the mesh has default material, with a custom material (or just put SFCore's PatchSceneMap monobehaviour on the same or a parent go) it will show up accordingly in game

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 9:14 PM

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what's the idea behind your paths rn

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like wait until the hero is in range or you're grounded and then move to the next coroutine after that?

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:16 PM

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i'll take a look at PatchSceneMap once, but can u use a material to make the edges of cliffs be different from the middle and such?

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:17 PM

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floral blade i'll take a look at PatchSceneMap once, but can u use a material to make the edg...

if you mean like how tot does it, it's just sprites layered above the mesh thing

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 9:17 PM

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// or something i presume
_anim.Play("Idle");

bool InRange() => Mathf.Abs(_hero.transform.position.x - transform.position.x) <= _dStabRange;

while (!InRange() && !Grounded())
  yield return null;

if (InRange()) {
  yield return DStabAntic();
} else {
  yield return Land();
}

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:19 PM

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you mean to add this to the whole thing ? https://github.com/SFGrenade/SFCore/blob/master/MonoBehaviours/SceneMapPatcher.cs#L5
it just seems to add a material and set texture to whatever is set there for all of the children, so if i want a different texture for one tile i would need to somehow access it and set the value

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 9:19 PM

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oh yeah I can just recheck the range condition after one of the conditions has been satisfied

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:19 PM

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floral blade you mean to add this to the whole thing ? <https://github.com/SFGrenade/SFCore/b...

i have no idea what you want to end up with, but sounds about right?

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 9:20 PM

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if you don't want to do that you can assign to a bool or something

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like

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:20 PM

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jolly oriole if you mean like how tot does it, it's just sprites layered above the mesh thing

like separate GOs with sprites in front of everything ?

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:20 PM

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floral blade like separate GOs with sprites in front of everything ?

yes

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vanilla also does that

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:20 PM

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okay then can the terrain also not be that same go?

copper nacelle Aug 3, 2021, 9:21 PM

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something like

yield return (InRange(), Grounded()) switch {
    (true, _) => DStabAntic(),
    (_, true) => Land(),
    _ => null
};

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though you'd need to break out after

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so maybe not that

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:21 PM

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floral blade okay then can the terrain also not be that same go?

the layer thing is only important for collisions/triggers

fair rampart Aug 3, 2021, 9:21 PM

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how can i upload mods to the public?

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:22 PM

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jolly oriole the layer thing is only important for collisions/triggers

okay and can i set the sprite GOs in unity and asset bundle them so i dont have to manually place it all in code ?

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:22 PM

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floral blade okay and can i set the sprite GOs in unity and asset bundle them so i dont have ...

yes

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:25 PM

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okay so workflow is :
0. download unity , blender, add asset bundle browser , watch saleh video , ask sf lots of questions

make mesh - add collider
add gos with sprites and make it pretty (optional for stage 1)
add gates / enemy locations / item pickups (as objects with some name and then do magic to replace them them in mod code)
bundle
be good with mod code
it should work in game

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:26 PM

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i'd say gates would be step 2, if you mean battles gates leave them where they are but add transitions in and out of the scene, for easy access

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:27 PM

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no i mean entry gate for scene transition

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:27 PM

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ah ok

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for step 1, i have something i just remembered

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:29 PM

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pls share

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:31 PM

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have go with meshfilter & renderer, right click meshfilter component -> create collision
ez

📎 MeshCollisionCreator.cs

languid goblet Aug 3, 2021, 9:33 PM

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is it ok to bind a monobehaviour to herocontroller?

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:36 PM

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jolly oriole have go with meshfilter & renderer, right click meshfilter component -> create c...

this makes what ? collider the shape of the png ?

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or the mesh

jolly oriole Aug 3, 2021, 9:36 PM

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floral blade this makes what ? collider the shape of the png ?

collider the shape of the mesh

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:37 PM

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gotcha easy tracing

vocal spire Aug 3, 2021, 9:37 PM

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languid goblet is it ok to bind a monobehaviour to herocontroller?

Yes, though I think people usually do it with gamemanager

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:37 PM

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use it in unity right ?

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or in mod at runtime ? 😮

vocal spire Aug 3, 2021, 9:37 PM

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In unity

vocal spire Aug 3, 2021, 9:38 PM

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jolly oriole have go with meshfilter & renderer, right click meshfilter component -> create c...

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instructions

fair rampart Aug 3, 2021, 9:40 PM

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anyone knows how do check how much time the player dash has?

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not the cooldown, i meant how much is left until the dash can be used how do i find the value

floral blade Aug 3, 2021, 9:46 PM

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vocal spire In unity

gotcha thanks i am just being triply sure i did not misunderstand

worn eagle Aug 3, 2021, 9:48 PM

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hmmm, considering tracing oro and mato's sprites into extra sheo sprites and making paintsage sheo

light zodiac Aug 3, 2021, 9:49 PM

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fair rampart not the cooldown, i meant how much is left until the dash can be used how do i f...

Maybe herocontroller.instance.dashcooldowntimer - DASH_COOLDOWN

worn eagle Aug 4, 2021, 12:08 AM

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this sometimes doesn't return true on a non kinematic rb that's clearly hitting the floor

private const float _raycastExtent = 0.25f;
private bool IsGrounded() => Physics2D.Raycast(transform.position, Vector2.down, _col.bounds.extents.y + _raycastExtent);

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copying CheckCollisionSide code seems to work

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 6:21 AM

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<@&283547423706447872>

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damn, others were faster

primal latch Aug 4, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Is there a hook for when a spell is cast?

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 7:07 AM

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nope

primal latch Aug 4, 2021, 7:07 AM

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ok

light zodiac Aug 4, 2021, 7:07 AM

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On hook?

primal latch Aug 4, 2021, 7:07 AM

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light zodiac On hook?

fine too

light zodiac Aug 4, 2021, 7:08 AM

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On.HutongGames.PlayMaker.Actions.SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool.OnEnter

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This is what dandy used for smol knight to make Vs smaller

primal latch Aug 4, 2021, 7:09 AM

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ok

primal latch Aug 4, 2021, 7:29 AM

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light zodiac `On.HutongGames.PlayMaker.Actions.SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool.OnEnter`

This doesn’t work for shriek/wraith

copper nacelle Aug 4, 2021, 7:33 AM

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there's a modcommon hook lmao

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i made it a while back

primal latch Aug 4, 2021, 7:41 AM

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We just steered away from modcommon

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I’ll yoink the code though

cedar hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

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<@&283547423706447872>

remote zealot Aug 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

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ty

worn eagle Aug 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

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nooo my free nitro

cedar hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

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Does a mod not get loaded when its recognized as a library?

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 11:06 AM

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why would it not get loaded

cedar hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 11:06 AM

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idk, it got recognized as a library and init wasn't called, likely that i did something wrong

fickle sparrow Aug 4, 2021, 11:09 AM

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I removed the library code from 1.5

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and in 1.4 a library means theres no class that inherits from Mod

cedar hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 11:10 AM

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well it said [INFO]:[API] - HowwowKnyight - LIBRARY in 1.5 so i'm just confused lol

fickle sparrow Aug 4, 2021, 11:11 AM

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idk then

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I don’t remember that log so maybe 56 changed something

worn eagle Aug 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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what color palette should I make modded sheo's attacks? roygbiv? pride flags?

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oh wait gay pride includes roygbv

ornate rivet Aug 4, 2021, 12:52 PM

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do one with different shades of blue

worn eagle Aug 4, 2021, 12:54 PM

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maybe I should let players customize them in settings feelspkman

light zodiac Aug 4, 2021, 1:01 PM

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You assume people will change settings vesselsip

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 1:09 PM

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for that they'd have to find them first

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 1:57 PM

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use mod menu smh

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wait, can modmenu be ported to 1.4 ?

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i think someone was working on it

worn eagle Aug 4, 2021, 2:03 PM

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come tf on TC

cedar hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 3:08 PM

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what is ModSettings in 1.5?

vocal spire Aug 4, 2021, 3:10 PM

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floral blade i think someone was working on it

Well no but I was working on my own hk inventory style menu api for both 1.4 and 1.5

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Unless you mean another someone

cedar hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 3:10 PM

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unless you mean someone as in someone zote

worn eagle Aug 4, 2021, 3:38 PM

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does DamageHero still hurt the player if it's disabled?

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 3:40 PM

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vocal spire Well no but I was working on my own hk inventory style menu api for both 1.4 and...

ah i misunderstood then ,you'd said once that you were making menu

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ah yes i misunderstood this

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and this lol

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 7:31 PM

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got something to load

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 7:33 PM

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nice

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 7:37 PM

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btw sf have you tried custom scenes with hkmp ? does it work ?

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 7:37 PM

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yea, flawlessly

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even the washing mashine works across clients

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 7:38 PM

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haha is it synced ? like the rotation ?

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 7:38 PM

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yes

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 7:38 PM

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wait how does that get synced ?

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 7:38 PM

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well, to be exact, it starts at the same time

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 7:39 PM

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yeah so if someone joins like 5 mins late they would be off cycle

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but still pretty cool i think

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 7:39 PM

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unless all leave and reenter the room

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 7:39 PM

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yeah makes sense

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also does the camera not go into -ve ?

jolly oriole Aug 4, 2021, 7:46 PM

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it only moves in the positive x/y range

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 7:46 PM

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my terrian was at 0,0,0 and if i walk off the left edge the knight is offscreen , but if i walk off the right edge i can wall climb the thing from outside

floral blade Aug 4, 2021, 7:47 PM

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jolly oriole it only moves in the positive x/y range

ah this makes sense so my terrain should ideally be not at 0,0,0 if i want to be able to show outside from all directions

worn eagle Aug 4, 2021, 9:12 PM

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implementing damaging paint splats is turning out to be much more of a chore than I thought

worn eagle Aug 4, 2021, 11:45 PM

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so I have a bunch of paint splat objects that I want to fade out over time, but only a few fade out, the others stay opaque
https://pastebin.com/zZSXrdsm

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specifically, I want cyan splats to be damaging, as a test

languid goblet Aug 5, 2021, 12:29 AM

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is there a way to update the hud? rn I'm just using HeroController.instance.AddHealth(0) but that doesn't seem to update lifeblood masks

copper nacelle Aug 5, 2021, 12:31 AM

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there's an fam event

languid goblet Aug 5, 2021, 12:31 AM

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fsm?

copper nacelle Aug 5, 2021, 12:32 AM

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yeah

safe hamlet Aug 5, 2021, 12:33 AM

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fam

copper nacelle Aug 5, 2021, 12:35 AM

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yo it's my boi sid

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what's up fam

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 12:36 AM

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what's up fsm

copper nacelle Aug 5, 2021, 12:37 AM

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true

ornate rivet Aug 5, 2021, 12:37 AM

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true

vocal spire Aug 5, 2021, 12:38 AM

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!true

languid goblet Aug 5, 2021, 6:42 AM

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copper nacelle there's an fam event

I uh
dunno where to find this
is it just each of the individual health fsms?
actually why is there an individual fsm for each health piece anyway?

light zodiac Aug 5, 2021, 6:49 AM

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PlayMakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("UPDATE BLUE HEALTH");

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 9:04 AM

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worn eagle what color palette should I make modded sheo's attacks? roygbiv? pride flags?

how many attacks are you gonna add?

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 9:19 AM

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idk

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which is bad because even I brainstormed move ideas for my worse bosses

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open to suggestions

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 10:57 AM

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paint

floral blade Aug 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Jingle make it like mspaint default colors

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feelspkman and one attack can be flood fill bucket shot towards the knight like a bullet

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if it hits the knight not only loses a mask but also changes color with the shader magic u did last time

vocal spire Aug 5, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Maybe a sea of paint for a phase?

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prevent healing

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~~add color to the white palace?~~

winter moss Aug 5, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Is there any way to view the game scenes in Unity? It would make modding a lot easier

rough pulsar Aug 5, 2021, 2:52 PM

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ask sfgrenade

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maybe hkedit

young walrus Aug 5, 2021, 2:52 PM

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get a job with team cherry. Kappa

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 3:16 PM

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rough pulsar ask sfgrenade

Hkworldedit2

winter moss Aug 5, 2021, 3:37 PM

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I tried that and it always gives an error when I try to open a scene

vocal spire Aug 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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winter moss I tried that and it always gives an error when I try to open a scene

What version of hollow knight? Also what’s the error?

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Also if you want to use utiny ripper to rip every scene from the game, you can do that on ver 1.4.3.2 and before

winter moss Aug 5, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Version 1.4.3.2 and the error differs. I've gotten OverflowException, NullReferenceException, OutOfMemoryException, and the one where it couldn't read past the end of the stream

vocal spire Aug 5, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Huh

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Maybe that ver of hkedit is for 1.5?

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Try this https://github.com/nesrak1/HKWorldEdit2/tree/c8725282e5b272e5a5dc8024c1557d9a662156e7

GitHub

GitHub - nesrak1/HKWorldEdit2 at c8725282e5b272e5a5dc8024c1557d9a66...

WIP Hollow Knight Level Editor. Contribute to nesrak1/HKWorldEdit2 development by creating an account on GitHub.

winter moss Aug 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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It still doesn't work

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Hold up I think I'm using the wrong version of Unity

languid goblet Aug 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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light zodiac PlayMakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("UPDATE BLUE HEALTH");

just tried this and it seems to just treat it like you sat on a bench and gives you all of the lifeblood back from core/heart

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why is health so annoying to work with wai

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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finally

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:27 PM

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can you give them an empty fsm called damages_player to show their hitboxes?

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wait nvm

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should show with a normal damagehero monobehaviour as well

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:28 PM

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I dnspy'ed 1432's ShowHitboxes mod and tweaked it to work w 1.5

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:29 PM

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why not use debugmods one

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:29 PM

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does it work for any layer go?

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:29 PM

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yes

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:29 PM

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and polycolliders?

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:29 PM

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yes

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:29 PM

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I'll see

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:30 PM

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example with circlec & polygoncolliders https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665684163357179955/863550721541931038/unknown.png

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though maybe it only likes 1 path per polygoncollider

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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ah I have to enable it in settings

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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i have it on 'O', cycles through none, basic colliders and basic colliders + all triggers

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:33 PM

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jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:33 PM

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looks interesting

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:34 PM

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memed from here https://answers.unity.com/questions/1248341/can-you-get-polygon-collider-2d-shape-from-a-sprit.html

Can you get polygon collider 2d shape from a sprite? - Unity Answers

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jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:35 PM

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as long as it works

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I should probably add an opacity threshold where the damager disables before the splat fades out completely

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 4:42 PM

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worn eagle finally

so what are we seeing here

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is it like when infection blobs linger on the ground?

winter moss Aug 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Does anyone know what scene the map object is in

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:44 PM

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jolly jungle is it like when infection blobs linger on the ground?

yeah

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 4:47 PM

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winter moss Does anyone know what scene the map object is in

menu_title

winter moss Aug 5, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Ok thx

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 4:58 PM

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worn eagle yeah

cool
Will all attacks have it or only cyan?

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Also, is cyan altered red, or in addition to red

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 4:59 PM

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not sure yet, and idk wym by altered/addition

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Well its clearly based off the red attack

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question is, is the red attack gonna stay too, or is this gonna replace it?

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 5:00 PM

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oh yeah I just recreated it

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the entire fsm with all his attacks is gone

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Ohh

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So building from scratch?

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damn

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can you show a bit of your code?

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I wanna understand how to manage fsm states correctly

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 5:02 PM

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you mean recreating an fsm in code or modifying a pfsm?

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 5:03 PM

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both

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For the second one, I know how to edit states, I just don't know how to make new ones or rewire them well

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so whatever you can show will help

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 5:04 PM

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the only thing I do with playmaker is destroy the ones on sheo

GetComponents<PlayMakerFSM>().ToList().ForEach(fsm => Destroy(fsm));

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though I do get audioclips and stored gameobjects on nailmaster_sheo beforehand using fsm util stuff

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Wait

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Hm

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So how do you make the new one?

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In unity?

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 5:05 PM

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I don't create a new pfsm, I just mimick it in code

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and yeah, you can do that

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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worn eagle I don't create a new pfsm, I just mimick it in code

Wait really?

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Show show show

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I probably won't last more than two attacks trying to build an ai like that, but still gotta see

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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it's basically a bunch of ienums that call each other to create a flow of logic

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I store functions for attacks in a dict and invoke them as they're randomly chosen

private Dictionary<Action, int> _maxRepeats = new();
private Dictionary<Action, int> _trackingInts = new();
private Action ChooseNextMove()
{
    Action selectedMove = _maxRepeats.Keys.ToArray()[Random.Range(0, _maxRepeats.Keys.Count)];
    if (_trackingInts[selectedMove] >= _maxRepeats[selectedMove])
        selectedMove = ChooseNextMove();

    foreach (Action move in _trackingInts.Keys.ToList())
    {
        if (move == selectedMove)
            _trackingInts[move]++;
        else
            _trackingInts[move] = 0;
    }

    return selectedMove;
}

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between each move is an idle ienum where the next attack is chosen

private IEnumerator Idle()
{
    _anim.Play("Idle");
    _rb.velocity = Vector2.zero;

    if ((_hero.transform.position - transform.position).magnitude <= _evadeDist &&
        transform.position.x >= ArenaLeftX &&
        transform.position.x <= ArenaRightX)
    {
        Evade();
        yield break;
    }

    float idleTime = Random.Range(0.25f, 0.35f);
    yield return new WaitForSeconds(idleTime);

    ChooseNextMove().Invoke();
}

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and every attack finishes with restarting the idle routine

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Hm

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Nice

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Much shorter than fsms, obviously, but I think it would be a bit harder for me to keep track at first

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Can I read over what you wrote?

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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dm me your github user and I'll share the private repo w you

jolly jungle Aug 5, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Oh I meant the code here but sure

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 5:15 PM

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you can read over it, sure

vocal spire Aug 5, 2021, 5:20 PM

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worn eagle

Nice job, can’t wait to try it

worn eagle Aug 5, 2021, 5:21 PM

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you could always go the TC route pepegamaster

jolly oriole Aug 5, 2021, 5:38 PM

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imagine not constructing a pfsm in code 😤

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... which doesn't work with purely sfcore fsmutil because pfsm sucks