#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 530

worn eagle Jul 25, 2021, 2:26 PM

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or should I go back to the good ol unity project I made

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 2:26 PM

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latter

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prob want to update your unity version

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but besides that nothing really

worn eagle Jul 25, 2021, 2:27 PM

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mhm, I'm on 2020.3.13f

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Um

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Do I have to make every image on my folder a sprite

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Please tell me an easy way to make every image to a sprite

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 2:30 PM

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don't you just like drag it into the slot

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:31 PM

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I can't

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I can't drag images onto sprite fields
I guess me dumb

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WAIT

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I GOT A BIG BRAIN IDEA

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I SOLVED IT

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 2:32 PM

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yea, should just be able to click the tiny circle to the right of it aswell

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:32 PM

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No

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 2:32 PM

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why tf is mapi's loading bar flickering

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:32 PM

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That doesn't work

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 2:32 PM

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i'm getting the loading icon (the knight running) in the middle of preloading

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:33 PM

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:)

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 2:33 PM

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raw skill

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Unity is taking its time

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This is gonna be fun

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1628 images

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 2:34 PM

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i'm this far already

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:34 PM

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jolly oriole i'm this far already

Is this every scene?

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 2:34 PM

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yes

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Sfg

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Mad lad

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 2:35 PM

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why

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 2:35 PM

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to have a few dumped sprites

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Dude I wish i knew why

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Um

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Unity is still turning images into sprites

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Cool

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I'm going to let it take its time

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:mariocomfy:

primal latch Jul 25, 2021, 2:47 PM

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jolly oriole to have a few dumped sprites

Are you making a sprite collection for 1.5?

primal latch Jul 25, 2021, 2:48 PM

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rough pulsar Unity is still turning images into sprites

Yeah. This takes a long time.

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 2:56 PM

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primal latch Are you making a sprite collection for 1.5?

possibly

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 2:56 PM

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holy shit

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pogchpa

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 2:59 PM

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progress i think

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:10 PM

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is it ok if i don't put here anything

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jolly jungle Jul 25, 2021, 3:14 PM

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jolly oriole i'm this far already

About this, how can this be made a bit more aesthetically pleasing?

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:14 PM

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add silksong trailer to remind the player's pain waiting for silksong

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:15 PM

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rough pulsar

yes, but you won't have a blurplane then

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:15 PM

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so um

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i guess i will have a blur plane later

jolly jungle Jul 25, 2021, 3:24 PM

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rough pulsar add silksong trailer to remind the player's pain waiting for silksong

Not what I had in mind, but I actually like this lmao
Maybe a semiblurred, darkened promotional poster in the background, and loading screen tips under the bar?

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:26 PM

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we should have loading screen tips on both when the scene is loading and at the start of the game

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e.g. "shaman stone is op"

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is there any way i can add custom music to my area?

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:42 PM

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yes

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:43 PM

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i would like to know how

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:44 PM

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how i do it:
have a go, put a SFCore.MonoBehaviours.PatchMusicRegions on it

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:44 PM

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oh

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ok

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:45 PM

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makes the collider a music region, i think i have some test things that allows it to have scene managers with music directly in them but idk the current state of them

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:45 PM

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oh

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:45 PM

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1 sec

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:45 PM

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idk what enter track event is

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:45 PM

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https://github.com/SFGrenade/ModdingHelper/blob/master/Unity Scripts/Editor/PatchMusicRegionsEditor.cs have this in an Editor folder in your projects Assets folder

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:46 PM

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why?

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:46 PM

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you can leave enter track event as default (crossroads), works

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:46 PM

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rough pulsar why?

so you don't have to guess the snapshot name

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:51 PM

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um

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@jolly oriole

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:52 PM

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un select, then re select

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unity weirdness

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:53 PM

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now its this

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is this good

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:54 PM

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there should be a dropdown

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:54 PM

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there isn't

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 3:56 PM

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let me open a unity project real quick

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2020, but i have a dropdown there, it's the same script

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which sfcore unity version do you use?

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 3:59 PM

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um

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1.4.3.2 patch 1

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 4:03 PM

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oh damn, thanks unity 2017

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starting at 0

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 4:06 PM

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thanks

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 4:20 PM

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3150 dumped sprites atm

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 4:23 PM

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idek how to get this

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 4:24 PM

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you can either use https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/AssetBundles-Browser, though the latest commit is from 2019
or you can manually set the assetbundles of assets at the bottom of the inspector thing and build those assetbundles with https://github.com/SFGrenade/ModdingHelper/blob/master/Unity Scripts/Editor/CreateAssetBundles.cs
both are (either 1 or multiple) editor scripts

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 4:34 PM

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the sfcore will still work if i drag in only the scene into the assetbundle right

primal latch Jul 25, 2021, 4:35 PM

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It should auto-reference everything required

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 4:35 PM

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it only auto referenced the sprites used in the scene

primal latch Jul 25, 2021, 4:35 PM

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then sfcore isn't required in that scene

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 4:36 PM

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it uses sfcore components so

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just asking

primal latch Jul 25, 2021, 4:36 PM

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wierd....

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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it will reference assemblies, not pack them into an assetbundle

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which is good because that allows one to have a bare assembly with only definitions in the project and one that actually does things in the game

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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so if i have the sfcore mod installed too everything will work fine in my scene

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i hope

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 4:38 PM

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yes

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in unity it's like "so this gameobject has script xx.yy.zz with values aa = ??, bb = ??, ..." and the only thing that needs to be the same is namespaces/classnames

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otherwise sfcore either couldn't be used in a unity project or it would do absolutely nothing with existing classes in hk

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 4:47 PM

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now uh

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i guess i prepare my code so that it replaces the gameobjects in my scene with the preloaded ones

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wait

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how do i... access my scene then

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salubruh

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is the scene from my assetbundle automatically extracted into the game so i can just teleport into my scene?

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 4:51 PM

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you load it

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 4:52 PM

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can i just teleport to the scene without doing anything except putting it as embedded resource then?

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 4:53 PM

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no

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there's like the AssetBundle.LoadFromMemory or something

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and then you can get the actual scene object after that and load it

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I think if you load the bundle it might work by name? but idr you'd have to ask Saleh or grenade

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:22 PM

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this would work?

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(Assuming i have an embedded resource called assetbundlething and it's an asset bundle file)

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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that loads it at least yeah

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Cool

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Idk if you have to load the scene itself from the bundle object or at that point it's just by name

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you have to use the unity functions if you do by name I think unless you fix the method

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It does something which throws with custom scenes

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and by the method I mean the game manager one doesn't work

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:28 PM

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the assetbundle only needs to be available, the rest just works

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e.g. transistioning into the scene with a TransitionPoint works

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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rough pulsar i guess i prepare my code so that it replaces the gameobjects in my scene with t...

you can do what i did with sfcore and sfcoreunity with your mod, just that your monobehaviours then instantiate preloaded gos where they are for example

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in the meantime, i'm at nearly 6000 cropped sprites

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:36 PM

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is this important

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:38 PM

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seems to not be a valid script, so ig it won't work what you want to do with it

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:39 PM

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i added the transitionpoint script from sfcore i think

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it was just found there

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hold on

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:39 PM

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wait what, sfcore shouldn't have one

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:39 PM

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idk

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wait

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i haven't checked

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i just seemed to have one

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wait

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huh

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it used to have settings

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yeah

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weird

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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ig having something like this anywhere in your assets (i keep scripts in their own folder for organisation) isn't bad

📎 TransitionPoint.cs

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and yes, it will use HK's one if assetbundled and loaded in hk

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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i... guess i had one of these? i don't remember

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apparently

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i have loaded in assembly-csharp from 1.4.3.2.

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into my unity project

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that's why it appeared

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agoneyes

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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that should give like a fuck ton of errors

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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well

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um

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fuck

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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jolly oriole that should give like a fuck ton of errors

why

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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because unity makes an assembly-csharp for every project and therefore another one is not the best thing to do

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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oh m

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Wait

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I think i bundled the scripts such as area title controller and etc into my main mod dll

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Awesome

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:54 PM

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it is done

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6889 images

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:55 PM

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I redid the steps from the tutorial

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Wait

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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It said only field members are important hornetpalm

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Thats why

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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yea, for unity, literally only fields are important

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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So

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Uh

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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and i also used the 2 project approach because unity likes to crash if you have your actual mod dll in the files and update it (and let unity reload it)

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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When i copy the dll that only contains the monobehaviors and load in my actual mod, those things will still work as intended i hope

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 5:59 PM

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the dll with only monobehaviours is used in the unity project, so things get 'linked' against the classes
then the assetbundle will be loaded by the mod with actual content, so those values of the assetbundle are put into the classes with actual content

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 5:59 PM

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amazing

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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i love my 2.4 million line modlog

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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shroompog

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It only builds the first project when I press CTRL+B agoneyes

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 6:02 PM

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'the first'? the actual mod project, the unity project or the only monobehaviour one?

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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The actual mod project

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I made unity project in a different way
Not in visual studio sethscheme

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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is it bad that it only builds with ctrl+b?

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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jolly oriole is it bad that it only builds with ctrl+b?

No I can just right click the project and build

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I think i can build all projects with ctrl+shift+b

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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idk, ctrl+b is my goto

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Calm down i accidentally left ping on elderC

vocal spire Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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jolly oriole idk, ctrl+b is my goto

Same

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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or i use the top menu thing to build all

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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jolly oriole ig having something like this anywhere in your assets (i keep scripts in their o...

help (i uncommented UnityEngine.Audio but i don't know what to do next)

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 7:12 PM

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these are the ones i use in tot

📎 MonoScripts.zip

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so basically how the decomp looks, but only the fields ofc

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 7:20 PM

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jolly oriole these are the ones i use in tot

You're so epic sfg

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Thamnks

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHGAHGASDGHAGHAGAAAHAGAHGAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAA

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AHF

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NO

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NO WY

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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what did you do

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:22 PM

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looks like an error to me

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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i think im stupid

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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instead of that

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try KeyCode.P

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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the string is [p] but there's no reason to use it if it's not from user input when you can use the enum

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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yeah i figured it out

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i hope

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coool

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um

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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pog

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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i just noticed there are missing textures

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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just a few

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make sure to set the shaders

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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huh

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:45 PM

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terrain: made of chunks that have meshfilter, meshrenderer and some form of collider (i prefer polygoncollider2ds). easily working texture on those can be achieved with a SFCore.MonoBehaviours.SceneMapPatcher script on it as well. just needs a (preferably black) texture bundled.
sprites: spriterenderer. for simple sprites (default or lit shader) you can also put a SFCore.MonoBehaviours.SpritePatcher script on it as well, which then just sets the shader to the given one (and optional scale)

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so you don't have to bundle your things 3 times, one for each platform

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:47 PM

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i

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i just noticed

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um

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i don't have hazard respawn thintg

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i'm missing several stuff shroompog

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tbh now i'm looking forward to uhhh

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replacing old gos with the new gos preloaded from abyss

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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just out of curiosity: why are you making that for 1.4.3.2? i mean, from all i know mi2.5 could be there like this next friday

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:49 PM

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i guess i'm just waiting until mapi 1.5 releases

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i can't have 2 instances of unity can i

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huh

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:52 PM

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you can

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:52 PM

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i mean like

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at the same time

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open

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:52 PM

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you can

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it just depends if your hardware doesn't kill itself in the meantime

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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i was wondering just because i wanna find the gos from areas

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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jolly oriole it just depends if your hardware doesn't kill itself in the meantime

i think it's going to do that

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considering

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jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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chrome WutFace

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:53 PM

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I'm so lazy to open discord app

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i think unity 2017 is less of a ram consumer so i think i'm

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good

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:55 PM

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for the doors btw:

transition go
TransitionPoint (Respawn Marker: Hazard Respawn Marker)
BoxCollider2D (trigger)
- EnemyDetector
  BoxCollider2D (no trigger)
- Hazard Respawn Marker
  HazardRespawnMarker
- haze2 (optional)
  SpriteRenderer (optional)

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 8:55 PM

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pog of the

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what is haze2

jolly oriole Jul 25, 2021, 8:56 PM

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some light looking sprite, i don't have it in tot

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not essential

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 9:16 PM

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woah abyss looks sick

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oh wait it's the lifeblood core room nvm

rough pulsar Jul 25, 2021, 9:59 PM

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when preloading stuff, does everything in the gameobject get preloaded?

rich stump Jul 26, 2021, 1:00 AM

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@viral ridge

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 5:06 AM

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rough pulsar when preloading stuff, does everything in the gameobject get preloaded?

Yes

jolly jungle Jul 26, 2021, 7:25 AM

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@rough pulsar are you making any custom scene or just looking at others?

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 9:07 AM

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Hey guys. If Silksong releases, what would you like to see differently in the modding community? For me, it would be a more structured modding API. (Namespaces or even just folders to keep it easier to have an overview over the API)

light zodiac Jul 26, 2021, 9:08 AM

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you assume silksong is coming out feelspkman

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 9:09 AM

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Can’t I ever ask a serious question? zote

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:15 AM

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do you want an answer?

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 9:18 AM

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jolly oriole do you want an answer?

Why would I ask a question if I don’t want an answer?

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

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because this is modding dev

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 9:19 AM

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I asked the same in discussion but didn’t get any reaction

floral blade Jul 26, 2021, 9:20 AM

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primal latch Hey guys. If Silksong releases, what would you like to see differently in the mo...

an api that has a lot of basic helper classes / methods might be cool, a built in in-game mod-installer and a standard UI system (like the new mod UI)

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also good call on asking if and not when silksong releases 😉

light zodiac Jul 26, 2021, 9:23 AM

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In-game modinstaller would be nice but wouldn't it force people to connect to WiFi to play the game

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 9:24 AM

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floral blade an api that has a lot of basic helper classes / methods might be cool, a built i...

I agree. Like 50% of the mods rely on modcommon or sfcore. A lot of those functionalities could just be in the API. Some very niece things could be seperate though. I have actually been thinking about an integrated installer. The problem would come with updating mods. I’m not sure you can edit an assembly on runtime without issues. Also, do we then want to directly load a mod once downloaded or just on the next restart to make sure that the mod doesn’t miss hooks that it needs.

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 9:24 AM

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floral blade also good call on asking **if** and not **when** silksong releases 😉

I… didn’t even think about that

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 9:25 AM

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light zodiac In-game modinstaller would be nice but wouldn't it force people to connect to W...

I think unity has build in functions to check if wifi is connected. Just disable the installer or at least the download/update part when wifi is disabled and add a retry connection button. If there is no such function just ping the google domain or something and see the output

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 10:21 AM

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jolly jungle <@!820685412208345148> are you making any custom scene or just looking at others...

custom scene

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 10:23 AM

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primal latch I agree. Like 50% of the mods rely on modcommon or sfcore. A lot of those functi...

Like 50% of the mods rely on modcommon or sfcore
majority of sfcore probably won't be in an api though, as only the util stuff would have a place in the api
integrated installer
have fun unloading mods at runtime for updates, also a way to completely reset the entire game (similar to close+reopen)
to make sure that the mod doesn’t miss hooks that it needs.
the above would solve that, if that even is possible

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... and then there's the argument to not bloat the mapi

worn eagle Jul 26, 2021, 10:28 AM

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integrate modcommon's astar into the api mylaU

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 10:32 AM

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why was it even there? has anybody ever used it?

jolly jungle Jul 26, 2021, 10:38 AM

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rough pulsar custom scene

What and where hornetsip

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 10:41 AM

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primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 10:47 AM

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jolly oriole > Like 50% of the mods rely on modcommon or sfcore majority of sfcore probably w...

For the sfcore part: what about things like title logo, style and charm helpers?

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I get that some things are too niece but some of these would probably improve performance since they can be integrated using patches and increase the likelyhood that people don’t write it themselves

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Also, it depends on your definition of bloated. In my opinion, the api would be bloated when there are a lot of functions that are never or rarely used by any mods

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 10:56 AM

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primal latch For the sfcore part: what about things like title logo, style and charm helpers?

probably, though i honestly have no idea if they are working completely bugfree (for charms i know that it definetly doesn't rn, need to fix that at some point)

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 10:57 AM

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I was using it as examples. I’m talking about a potential silksong API and what we could do differently. Not what we should do differently now.

somber sundial Jul 26, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Just out of curiosity, is there any documentation on the modding API that is up to date?

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 11:32 AM

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https://hk-modding.github.io/api/

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 12:41 PM

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I see jesus

jolly jungle Jul 26, 2021, 1:00 PM

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@ kaan don't you dare accidentally do the same stuff I'm planning to do hornetsip

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 1:02 PM

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just wondering, how would one make an abyss boss work in the abyss
specifically, I mean what would one have to do to make a dark character easy to see in a dark background

worn eagle Jul 26, 2021, 1:03 PM

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part of the challenge is trying to see the boss

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 1:04 PM

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lmao

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I guess you could put the boss against a brownish-ancient basin background
but then it's not as cool

jolly jungle Jul 26, 2021, 1:05 PM

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ornate rivet just wondering, how would one make an abyss boss work in the abyss specifically,...

Not telling hornetsip

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 1:06 PM

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I mean, I asked because I want to make an abyss arena for the modded shade boss fight eventually

jolly jungle Jul 26, 2021, 1:07 PM

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I mean, you have no problem seeing the siblings, right

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so just make an arena like that

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

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oh yea, just making the bg really blurred makes seeing the siblings easy

jolly jungle Jul 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

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I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 1:09 PM

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not sarcastic

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well that's solved, now time to finish pale court so I can finally move on

jolly jungle Jul 26, 2021, 1:10 PM

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You don't have much time to finish it hornetsip

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After all, you're releasing it in seven days

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As we all know

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So good luck

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 1:11 PM

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uh huh

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 1:16 PM

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ornate rivet just wondering, how would one make an abyss boss work in the abyss specifically,...

normal is black outlines w/ other content, so abyss themed is brighter outlines w/ dark content

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or yea, like siblings, dark grey background, and simple black sprites

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 2:29 PM

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jolly jungle After all, you're releasing it in seven days

That's a funny thought

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:)

jolly jungle Jul 26, 2021, 2:53 PM

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:)

cedar hemlock Jul 26, 2021, 2:56 PM

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:)

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Pog

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I'm just gonna watch thru the video tutorial because i feel like an idiot

vapid cape Jul 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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pale court 👀 👀

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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vapid cape pale court 👀 👀

Soon

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🕐🕕🕜🕥🕠🕓

nimble lake Jul 26, 2021, 4:26 PM

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oh my god i was right
pale court is coming out before silksong

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Naming gameobjects in unity vesselsip

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This isn't documented anywhere in modding api documentation?

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 4:40 PM

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that is not part of the modding api

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 4:40 PM

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I mean

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copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 4:41 PM

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yeah

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and

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it is a nice piece of information but it's not a full in depth breakdown because it isn't part of the API so every member doesn't get commented

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 5:03 PM

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yusuf hates me

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 5:04 PM

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nope

safe hamlet Jul 26, 2021, 5:04 PM

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yeah he does

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cry about it bitch

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 5:04 PM

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true

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 5:04 PM

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:(

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Wtf happened

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I just referenced those and it broke

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 5:05 PM

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what does it say

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Fun

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copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 5:07 PM

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what framework and what game version

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2021, 5:07 PM

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framework girlboss to the rescue

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 5:08 PM

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I didn't change framework and game version is at 1.4.3.2
Framework is .net framework 3.5

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O

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Hold on

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It calmed down

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AND IT'S STILL TRYING TO SHOW ERRORS

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I think intellisense fucked up

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 5:17 PM

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rough pulsar AND IT'S STILL TRYING TO SHOW ERRORS

save the file

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 5:17 PM

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primal latch save the file

Building project already saves file

primal latch Jul 26, 2021, 5:18 PM

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then IDK. Close the file and open it again? I have something similar some times

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 5:22 PM

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what to do with intellisense fuckups: close vs and reopen

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 5:27 PM

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I think i fixed my issue

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This variable is the name of the gameobject that the knight is going to be teleported to in the destination scene, right?

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 5:40 PM

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yes

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so in vanilla it would be something like left1, right1, top1, bot1 or door1 and it checks for the direction you are entering with the name of the go (so pretty much what i listed just without the 1s)

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 5:42 PM

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hornetpalm

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Thanks

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:17 PM

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I am trying to spawn double for every enemy that spawns but in OnEnemyEnable I am instantiating a new enemy and it just infinitely spawns enemies. Is there a way to get around this?\

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:18 PM

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mighty chasm I am trying to spawn double for every enemy that spawns but in OnEnemyEnable I a...

Um
Give a tag to the enemy that you duplicated? So when you duplicate an enemy, check if it has the tag "duplicated" or something then it shouldn't duplicate that

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Thats a good idea

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Does hollow knight not use tags?

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:20 PM

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I haven't checked

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as far as i am aware, the only usage i know is The Knight's hard fall tag or something

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Okay imma just try and see if it works

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Sure

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Oof my cpu

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Did it work?

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No?

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:22 PM

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i honestly don't think that adding dynamic tags is even possible

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Then uh

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I have an idea

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:22 PM

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though i could be wrong

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Try creating a monobehavior

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:22 PM

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I believe it is

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:22 PM

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A monobehavior that does nothing

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Check if the enemy has that monobehavior, if it does then ignore that enemy, but if it doesn't exist inside that enemy, apply that monobehavior to the enemy before duplicating it, then duplicate it

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:23 PM

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And check if it has that monobehaviour?

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:23 PM

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Yeah

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Do

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Uh

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var monoBh = gameObject.GetComponent<MyMonoBehavior>();
if (monoBh == null)
{
  // code here to duplicate
}

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 9:24 PM

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nonbouncer simulator

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:25 PM

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GetComponent<T>() returns null if the gameobject doesnt have that component

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i think

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:25 PM

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can't be certain that no enemy uses nonbouncer

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:25 PM

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rough pulsar i think

yes

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Maybe the problem is that OnEnable is called during the instantiate methd so anything I do to the object is after

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Yeah

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Inception

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That's why i proposed that solution

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 9:26 PM

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that's why I said simulator

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:27 PM

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But the problem is that if I blah = Instantiate(enemy) then onenable is called on bleh before the next line of code where I add the mono behaviour

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I believ thatd be the only reason this wouldnt work

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 9:28 PM

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no you can't make tags at runtime

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it'll silently die in output_log

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Oh

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That explains it

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....

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Use monobehaviors then

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:28 PM

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I think you can though

vocal spire Jul 26, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Check output_log then

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 9:29 PM

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they hated him because he told the truth

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:29 PM

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The unity docs sets it in an example 🤔

vocal spire Jul 26, 2021, 9:29 PM

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But the tag already exists

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It was added in the editor

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 9:29 PM

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^

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Ohhhhhh I see what you mean

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Im a dummy

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:30 PM

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I'm also a dummy

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Time to test my scene via transitionpoint and get confused why it doesnt work

vocal spire Jul 26, 2021, 9:31 PM

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I’ll be waiting for that (not)

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:31 PM

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This should work right

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:32 PM

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potentially

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if it doesn't, use normal visualization

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:34 PM

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I'm also creating a transitionpoint object when On.GameManager.EnterHero fires, that should work right

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In the right scene

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With the same name as entrygatename

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:34 PM

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whatever the 'right scene' is, maybe?
personally i use the activescenechanged hook

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:35 PM

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I'm gonna test it just in case
I was following saleh's video tutorial for the script part

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Sick, it doesn't work

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Hold on

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I know what happened

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It was just a dumb mistake zote

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Does anynone know why this might not be working?

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copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 9:44 PM

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what does not working mean

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Whats expected is if something has been duped once it will stop duping. But what happens is that the enemies just duped infinitely

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:45 PM

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yes

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because you add the duped go to the dupedgos list, not the original one

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and compare to the original one

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Add both enemy and enemy_d to the dupedgos list

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^^^^^^

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Pretty much what sfg said

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(please don't snail me 🥺🥺🥺🥺)

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 9:45 PM

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any sets

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Hold on

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Nvm

jolly oriole Jul 26, 2021, 9:46 PM

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list.set(content)

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there

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2021, 9:46 PM

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i guess it doesn't matter if there are like 5 entries tbf

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 9:50 PM

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My scene worked for a while

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Apparently there was no hitbox

mighty chasm Jul 26, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Yooooo it works

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Is there some sort of data that enemies in hollow knight that would say whether they are attatched to the walls like crawlids or the venus fly trap thingies

worn eagle Jul 26, 2021, 9:58 PM

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if you mean tiktiks I think they use a raycast action in an fsm

charred topaz Jul 26, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Probably a bit late, but another possible solution is to check if the gameObject name ends with “(Clone)”, since the Instantiate function will automatically add the word “(Clone)” to the end of the newly created object’s name

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 10:06 PM

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I

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I didn't know that

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Wow

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Does anyone know why hitboxes in my scene doesn't work?

vocal spire Jul 26, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Edge collider?

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 10:09 PM

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I'm using an edge collider

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vocal spire Jul 26, 2021, 10:09 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Damn

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Maybe i'll figure out 10 years later

vocal spire Jul 26, 2021, 10:09 PM

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The knight just phases through the part where the collider is?

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Oh did you set it to terrain

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Hold on

vocal spire Jul 26, 2021, 10:10 PM

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The go’s layer

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 10:10 PM

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I think it may be

vocal spire Jul 26, 2021, 10:10 PM

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You did

rough pulsar Jul 26, 2021, 10:10 PM

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When i enter my scene, the knight just falls off garmond

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I think it's because i set my transitionpoint's direction wrong

charred topaz Jul 26, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Another option is to use a polygon collider

fair rampart Jul 27, 2021, 12:15 AM

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anyone knows how do i add mod settings to my mod inside hollow knight settings?

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with the ability to change values like floats and booleans

vocal spire Jul 27, 2021, 12:18 AM

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fair rampart anyone knows how do i add mod settings to my mod inside hollow knight settings?

A settings menu, saveable settings, or per save file saveable settings?

fair rampart Jul 27, 2021, 12:21 AM

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vocal spire A settings menu, saveable settings, or per save file saveable settings?

Im trying to allow the player to change variables in the mod with a settings menu

vocal spire Jul 27, 2021, 12:22 AM

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What version of hollow knight is your mod for?

fair rampart Jul 27, 2021, 12:22 AM

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1.4.3.2

vocal spire Jul 27, 2021, 12:22 AM

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Can’t unless you write everything yourself

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Or port the 1.5 api’s menu api to the 1.4.3.2 api

fair rampart Jul 27, 2021, 12:22 AM

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alright

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thanks

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 12:32 AM

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vocal spire Or port the 1.5 api’s menu api to the 1.4.3.2 api

I'm

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Gonna do that

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Jk

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I'm too lazy

vocal spire Jul 27, 2021, 12:48 AM

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Cool bc I was making my own menu api as well, more of an inventory ui but it’ll work for menus too

light zodiac Jul 27, 2021, 12:49 AM

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For 1.4 or 1.5?

vocal spire Jul 27, 2021, 12:49 AM

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Both

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Planning to port to all versions the installer supports

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And yes I still think the installer should at least support both 1.4.3.2 and 1.5 if not other patches

lyric urchin Jul 27, 2021, 1:04 AM

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I'd like to get into mod development for games I play and since I love hk i figured it would be a good place to start. Are there any guides to hk mod development that yall would recommend?

deep wave Jul 27, 2021, 1:15 AM

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the api docs are a good place to start https://radiance.host/apidocs/ModdingAPI.html

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 1:15 AM

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https://hk-modding.github.io/api/ 😤

deep wave Jul 27, 2021, 1:36 AM

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i love the landing page

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 1:37 AM

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it works

deep wave Jul 27, 2021, 1:38 AM

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i actually haven't seen these docs yet, they seem really nice as actual docs. are you planning to remake the getting started stuff from the original docs or just keep both?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 1:39 AM

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I thought I did but maybe that was a different page

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Ah no I didn't

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Planning on remaking most things that are relevant

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like I don't think modcommon or anything belongs in the API docs

safe hamlet Jul 27, 2021, 1:43 AM

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why are your caps so inconsistent

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 1:49 AM

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because i turn off the capitalization on mobile sometimes

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habit

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sometimes i don't though ig

deep wave Jul 27, 2021, 1:50 AM

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disabling auto capitalisation in swiftkey was the best decision i ever made tbh

jolly oriole Jul 27, 2021, 5:58 AM

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charred topaz Another option is to use a polygon collider

polygoncollider2d > edgecollider2d
you can't change my mind

safe hamlet Jul 27, 2021, 7:01 AM

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@mortal trout shoutout

mortal trout Jul 27, 2021, 7:01 AM

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true

nimble lake Jul 27, 2021, 8:21 AM

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jolly oriole polygoncollider2d > edgecollider2d you can't change my mind

so true bestie

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 8:40 AM

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https://github.com/hk-modding/api/pull/65 this fixes my issues with tabs and spaces

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 9:08 AM

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It’s basically an override of your local settings

jolly oriole Jul 27, 2021, 9:44 AM

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https://github.com/hk-modding/api/pull/65/commits/5267d0f65dcfcb243deda614b891c0efd87c439b#diff-03024aba83b16a4ae19f94f775ff92892e0ac6f76fa986532b67b6a71c5e448cR6 uh, why were the project guids updated? does visual studio just do that?

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 9:57 AM

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I think so. Or at least I didn’t do it. I just clicked add

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What are the guids for?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 5:27 PM

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why tf does this say tabs

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 5:27 PM

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what

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 5:33 PM

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copper nacelle why tf does this say tabs

what do you mean?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 5:34 PM

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indent_style = tab

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 5:35 PM

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wierd.

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and when I type it places spaces

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and tabs are replaced with spaces

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also,

"This should probably be customized by Fifty-Six and other very active maintainers of this project."

jolly oriole Jul 27, 2021, 5:36 PM

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imagine being active lmao nerds

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 5:36 PM

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true

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 5:37 PM

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i'm almost never active in github

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shadeshades

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 5:39 PM

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updated it

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 6:59 PM

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@unborn crypt you wanna make a mod. Do you have any experience in programming in c#

crude wave Jul 27, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Hello, I installed the mod "AdditionalMaps" because I wanted a map for the white palace but it doesn't work, when I'm in the white palace there is no map.

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 7:04 PM

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@crude wave wrong channel

crude wave Jul 27, 2021, 7:10 PM

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Yes, I know but nobody answered me in "modding-help"

ornate rivet Jul 27, 2021, 7:11 PM

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nice

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 7:14 PM

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that doesn't make it better

primal latch Jul 27, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Yeah. I wanted to help but I have never used it

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 7:52 PM

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crude wave Hello, I installed the mod "AdditionalMaps" because I wanted a map for the white...

I'm extremely late but I am sure that you find WP's map near the beginning. If not the beginning, it should be the hub

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Godhome also has a map

light zodiac Jul 27, 2021, 8:05 PM

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rough pulsar I'm *extremely late* but I am sure that you find WP's map near the beginning. If...

Nope

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You assume sfg's that nice feelspkman

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 8:07 PM

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light zodiac You assume sfg's that nice <:feelspkman:639636442821165056>

IS IT AT THE END OF POP

worn eagle Jul 27, 2021, 8:07 PM

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I miss the old sfg, nice and warm and kind sfg

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2021, 8:07 PM

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who

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Sfg still helps me tho

light zodiac Jul 27, 2021, 8:07 PM

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rough pulsar IS IT AT THE END OF POP

It's in pale king workshop

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 8:07 PM

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He gave me a few scripts just to make things easier

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 8:08 PM

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light zodiac It's in pale king workshop

I mean far

jolly oriole Jul 27, 2021, 8:21 PM

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worn eagle I miss the old sfg, nice and warm and kind sfg

if i don't play minecraft tomorrow (which i probably will, but maybe i can do both at once) i can move the wp map to the front of wp, so that it's inaccessible for those who already progressed in it lol

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 8:58 PM

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jolly oriole if i don't play minecraft tomorrow (which i probably will, but maybe i can do bo...

I'm confused

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Do you mean

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uh

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Oh I get it

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Isn't the beginning part of wp still accessible though??*

jolly oriole Jul 27, 2021, 8:59 PM

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the entrance and first two scenes no, the left and right parts of the hub also no

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 10:14 PM

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reminder

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uh

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isma overworld

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i just wrote it here just so i put it in the next update

ornate rivet Jul 27, 2021, 10:19 PM

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what

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is this a threat to leak pale court

vocal spire Jul 27, 2021, 10:20 PM

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👀

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~~(quick, find where they live and take em out)~~

rough pulsar Jul 27, 2021, 10:21 PM

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ornate rivet is this a threat to leak pale court

No

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I noticed someone was using my mod and oddily, a text appeared called "isma overworld"

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I don't think that should have appeared

vocal spire Jul 27, 2021, 10:21 PM

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~~🔫 no more games, tell them truth~~

ornate rivet Jul 27, 2021, 10:22 PM

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that's even weirder

vocal spire Jul 27, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Also I don’t think I reported that bug?

mortal kindle Jul 28, 2021, 12:06 AM

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would anybody who has HKWorldEdit set up be willing to check what's going on with the hitboxes that cause the kp floor to crumble? It seems like the one displayed in debugmod isn't accurate and I'm trying to figure out whats happening, here's an approximation of what i found through trial and error: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818520522471637052/869729247290355823/unknown.png

rough pulsar Jul 28, 2021, 2:07 AM

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i'm 2 hours late

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oh well

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i can't check now anyways

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 5:11 AM

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I kind of wanna get into modding Hollow Knight just so that I can implement a charm Glorification system...

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 5:58 AM

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... aaand I have no idea how to add references to other mods

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the wiki just kinda says "you'd better know how to do that first lol"

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/how-to-add-or-remove-references-by-using-the-reference-manager?view=vs-2019

Add references in the Reference Manager - Visual Studio (Windows)

Learn how to use the Reference Manager dialog box to add and manage references to developed components.

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 6:13 AM

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thanks, I'm still pretty new to coding

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 6:50 AM

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... yeah I can't figure this out lol

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sorry about my gross incompetency

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:00 AM

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can't find image of vs interface, but on the left or right side there should be your project with its files displayed, somewhere there is also a thing called "References", you can expand that, which then shows "Assemblies", right click that, click "Add reference", that opens a reference manage window i think its called, go to "search" (or whatever the 2nd last option is afaik), then at the bottom there is a button "find reference" or something, then navigate to the dll files you want to reference, select and ok and ok

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:01 AM

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yeah I had tried that but it threw up an error.. one sec

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:02 AM

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you can't do that with certain assemblies, i know that the system ones and mscorlib won't work

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:03 AM

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yeah maybe I'm just attempting to reference the wrong DLL

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:03 AM

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are you trying to mod for the 1.4.3.2 or the 1.5 patch?

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:04 AM

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1.4.3.2 I think.. at least it should be

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:05 AM

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then it should work

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can you show the project properties (the main page, where it shows the .net framework version)?

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:06 AM

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ah see, I'm working off of the example mod provided by the wiki

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maybe that's been updated to 1.5

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:06 AM

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or easier: if it doesn't say 3.5, set it to 3.5

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because 4.7.2 is for 1.5 mods

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:08 AM

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god I really don't know what I'm doing, huh

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:10 AM

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actually, the example mod was updated to 1.5, so it's technically not on you to not realize that

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:10 AM

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yeahhh that's what I figured

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might be easier to start from scratch I guess, despite not really knowing what to do lol

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:12 AM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/NewScene.html#mod-project-setup is actually nearly a step-by-step how to create it i just realized

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at least the first 3 steps

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:12 AM

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alright, I'll see if I can get anywhere

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yeah it added the reference (finally)

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now all I gotta do is figure out how to actually code the stuff, now that the setup is out of the way

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:33 AM

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https://github.com/SFGrenade/MoreHealing/tree/85f5adbfe070cbe0c17b440e282dbd22e21d53ce should be a good example of 1.4.3.2 charm adding stuff (iadk if it's outdated) (yes, specifically that commit, as the one directly after it is for 1.5)

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:36 AM

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alright sounds good

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would you have any idea what assembly or namespace or whatever I need to get these to resolve?

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 7:39 AM

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daring nest would you have any idea what assembly or namespace or whatever I need to get the...

should be further down in the class, those are methods that in the end are called if

a language string is requested
a playerdata bool is being set
a playerdata bool is requested
a playerdata int is being set
a playerdata int is requested

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in that order

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 7:43 AM

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ahhhh I looked at the example you provided and I think I get it

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 3:16 PM

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rough pulsar I'm *extremely late* but I am sure that you find WP's map near the beginning. If...

i take suggestrions

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suggestions*

rough pulsar Jul 28, 2021, 6:30 PM

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

floral blade Jul 28, 2021, 6:32 PM

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um @rough pulsar you okay?

rough pulsar Jul 28, 2021, 6:32 PM

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oh

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huh

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shit i accidentally spammed here without knowing

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thanks for letting me know

floral blade Jul 28, 2021, 6:32 PM

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np

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:21 PM

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why does it not recognize "Settings" for some reason

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I'm sure I added all the necessary references..

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this is just the callbacks

deep wave Jul 28, 2021, 8:24 PM

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have you created a Settings class? you need to construct one yourself

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:24 PM

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ahhh see that would make sense lol

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yeahhh I don't exactly know how to construct a Settings class lol

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:33 PM

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did you reference sfcore?

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:33 PM

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yeah I did

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:34 PM

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and did using SFCore and using SFCore.Utils?

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i may have mistyped, just do what vs says

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:35 PM

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yeah I'm using both

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I'm not really sure what to do

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:35 PM

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what does the lightbulb say?

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:36 PM

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it says using static ModCommon.Dev

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:36 PM

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oh modcommon

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:36 PM

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yeah that didn't help much

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:37 PM

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wait are you trying to use sfcore or modcommon?

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:37 PM

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well I'm using both, but ModCommon currently isn't being used

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I kinda just threw it in just in case

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:37 PM

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but sfcore for the charms right?

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:37 PM

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yeah

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:37 PM

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lets see if i get more than 9

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@jolly oriole ^ (sry)

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:38 PM

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I could get you a pastebin

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:38 PM

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only 9 again grubsad

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:39 PM

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https://pastebin.com/baci0hfD

Pastebin

GloryCharms.cs - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

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if you wanna take a look at it

cedar hemlock Jul 28, 2021, 8:39 PM

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grenade can handle this, so imma go now

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:40 PM

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yeah I actually do need to head to work

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I'll be back in like 6 hours or so

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I really do wanna get this working because a charm upgrade system just sounds so cool to me

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 8:40 PM

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change Settings to SaveSettings and you're good to go

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with the Settings.newCharms stuff

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so on lines
106, 114, 122, 135, 144, 153 & 167

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btw, having it toggleable won't work, limitation of sfcores charmhelper

daring nest Jul 28, 2021, 8:43 PM

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oh oof

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guess I'll remove ITogglableMod

rough pulsar Jul 28, 2021, 9:15 PM

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is there any way i can add items to the ground?

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like, items that can be picked up

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sfg pls pls 🥺

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hold on ima take a look at

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additional map's source code

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i might be able to find something

vocal spire Jul 28, 2021, 9:18 PM

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rough pulsar is there any way i can add items to the ground?

Instantiate pickup object, edit Fsm

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 9:25 PM

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get item that can fly: https://github.com/SFGrenade/AdditionalMaps/blob/master/AdditionalMaps.cs#L49
adjust it to ones need: https://github.com/SFGrenade/AdditionalMaps/blob/master/AdditionalMaps.cs#L67-L72
drop it off where you want it: https://github.com/SFGrenade/AdditionalMaps/blob/master/AdditionalMaps.cs#L494
edit pickup fsm

rough pulsar Jul 28, 2021, 9:25 PM

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What is this

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 9:25 PM

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that is isma's tear

rough pulsar Jul 28, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Cool thanks

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 9:26 PM

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or well, it isn't anymore

rough pulsar Jul 28, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Acid fling?

jolly oriole Jul 28, 2021, 9:26 PM

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the one by unn

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it's unique

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slug fling btw

deep wave Jul 29, 2021, 3:35 AM

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is LoadPriority early when high or low? i may be stupid

daring nest Jul 29, 2021, 3:48 AM

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hmm, where might I find Charms in the source code? I wanna take a peek at how they work so I can like, actually start making the charms

deep wave Jul 29, 2021, 3:48 AM

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ah regardless there appears to be some issue - this may be an old mapi issue, but LoadPriority seems to be basically ignored in favour of alphabetical ordering when loading mods w/ some that have LoadPriority and some that do not specify

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 3:56 AM

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assembly loading is alphabetical

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Initalize shouldn't be

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Can't exactly sort by load priority for assembly loading when you need to load the assembly to get it

deep wave Jul 29, 2021, 4:09 AM

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ah I may be extremely stupid

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I was reading the load in modlog and thinking it was the initialize coming before my initialize

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reading rng

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I was still having issues though, I'll see if not-sleep-deprived me can do any better tomorrow I suppose

daring nest Jul 29, 2021, 4:31 AM

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gotta love thinking you solved everything, just for ONE issue to pop up

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there is nothing about this I understand

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agh pain

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 4:33 AM

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are the settings public

daring nest Jul 29, 2021, 4:33 AM

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... fuck, thank you

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 4:33 AM

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np

daring nest Jul 29, 2021, 4:33 AM

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that cleared it up

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I had it as class GlorySettings instead of public class GlorySettings

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 6:37 AM

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jolly oriole suggestions*

still taking them

light zodiac Jul 29, 2021, 6:42 AM

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Make additional maps have a ToT map

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 6:45 AM

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pd abuse for other mods to add maps Pepega

merry lotus Jul 29, 2021, 7:20 AM

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jolly oriole still taking them

Could it be next to the bench that you get before needing to open the way up? (Atrium I think it's called?)

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And/or next to the "checkpoint" dream portal thing

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 7:29 AM

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🤔

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 10:34 AM

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boss @ end

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 10:51 AM

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make sprites

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 10:56 AM

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give concept

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 10:57 AM

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god dammit, now i have to make a concept

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 12:02 PM

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has anyone worked w the google drive api

tepid hearth Jul 29, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Does anyone have any good resources on how to start modding? I'm looking for a way to make a custom boss battle, but I have the slight problem of never having modded or even coded anything in my life and all the pinned stuff just confuses me. Thanks beforehand! ^^

cedar hemlock Jul 29, 2021, 12:38 PM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html#creating-mods
and
https://hk-modding.github.io/api/

tepid hearth Jul 29, 2021, 12:39 PM

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Awesome, thanks so much! :D

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 12:40 PM

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worn eagle has anyone worked w the google drive api

not gonna be easy, as it might require an embedded browser, don't know how that would work exactly, but otherwise looks like most other apis (like gog & humble)

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but generally:
let user log in through website (popup/embedded browser or something) -> get access token -> get other tokens -> get data

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 12:56 PM

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idk what the chances of skins moving from gdrive are

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 12:57 PM

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oh, uh

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forgot that login is possibly not necessary with public drives

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may just be rate limited then though

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 1:04 PM

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gonna try out the .net 6 + vs 2022 previews for this installer

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 8:43 PM

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copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 8:47 PM

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is that Maui?

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 8:47 PM

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nah, avalonia

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does maui have linux support?

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 8:47 PM

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"community supported"

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 8:48 PM

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better than nothing ig

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when I tried to generate a maui proj it made paths so long it broke on startup

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 8:49 PM

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lol

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but looks nice

cedar hemlock Jul 29, 2021, 9:00 PM

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worn eagle

@rough pulsar you have competition mastersmirk

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

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I can't get a maui app to target windows, it keeps reverting back to iOS shadecry

deep wave Jul 29, 2021, 9:05 PM

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may be an idea once this is formalized to add a thumbnail preview to the skin list

rough pulsar Jul 29, 2021, 9:09 PM

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oh wow someone else is making a skin installer

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great

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i don 't want to maintain my own

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mine is just a cheap fork from modinstaller

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 9:10 PM

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mine is just a cheap fork from modinstaller2 mylaU

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 9:10 PM

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lmao

rough pulsar Jul 29, 2021, 9:11 PM

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how

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what

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i dont remember that gui

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 9:11 PM

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checkmarks -> button

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change bg color

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left sidebar is dead

rough pulsar Jul 29, 2021, 9:12 PM

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sick

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OH WAIT

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IT'S THE DIFFERENT MI2

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I'M STUPID

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 9:12 PM

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what

rough pulsar Jul 29, 2021, 9:12 PM

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wait

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didn't you make a modinstaller

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2021, 9:12 PM

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yeah

rough pulsar Jul 29, 2021, 9:13 PM

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i just got confused with the old mi2 and new one
or i just got confused and old mi2 never existed

vocal spire Jul 29, 2021, 9:17 PM

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What is the old mi2?

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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I tried Qt first but found there was no official cpp gdrive api

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then I tried godot mono which would've been cool but it only supports up to tls 1.2 and Google services are 1.3

jolly oriole Jul 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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time to implement tls 1.3 in godot mono

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Pepega

worn eagle Jul 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I mean, mit license

daring nest Jul 29, 2021, 10:20 PM

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okay, how do you actually make custom charms do stuff? like, for instance, making an upgraded Strength charm increase Nail damage by 75%?

vocal spire Jul 29, 2021, 11:14 PM

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daring nest okay, how do you actually make custom charms do stuff? like, for instance, makin...

Either 1. Change the Playerdata int for nail damage on charm update depending on if your charm is equipped or not or 2. Make a check somewhere where damage is applied and change the damage applied if your charm is equipped or not

lucid needle Jul 30, 2021, 5:09 AM

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is there any chance anyone could take a look at a mod im having worked on and help me understand and possibly solve why it doesnt play well with EnemyHPBar mod, please? (asked in modding-help but i was made aware it would be better to ask here)

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its a mod that increases enemy health (and damage they do) and the EnemyHPBar only shows up when i bring them down to vanilla health.

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i can understand why logically its behaving in such a way but im more curious if it can be fixed.

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 6:20 AM

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I'm beginning to develop a strong dislike for xaml

jolly oriole Jul 30, 2021, 6:22 AM

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imagine not disliking any form of xml

rough pulsar Jul 30, 2021, 11:38 AM

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pinging sfgrenade

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 1:36 PM

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I'm really liking vs2022's intellicode

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 3:07 PM

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lucid needle i can understand why logically its behaving in such a way but im more curious if...

You probably could do some hook with the enemyhpbar methods using reflection

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 3:13 PM

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hmmmyes

jolly oriole Jul 30, 2021, 3:22 PM

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only 500 MB

primal latch Jul 30, 2021, 3:56 PM

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worn eagle I'm really liking vs2022's intellicode

is there a noticeable difference?

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 3:56 PM

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it suggests entire line completion and it can be fairly decent

primal latch Jul 30, 2021, 3:57 PM

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nice

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I might actually give it a shot

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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some of the folder hierarchies on twp's gdrive are absolutely fucked

light zodiac Jul 30, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Why else do you thing no one made a skin installer yet

deep wave Jul 30, 2021, 4:24 PM

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tbh i'd contact twp asking if there would be some allowance to restructure the drive because it is completely stupid

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you could do some weird stuff in the xml to specify what subfolders to take images from

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 4:26 PM

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why do you think I forced multiple people at gunpoint to swap with 1.5

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the tech

jolly oriole Jul 30, 2021, 4:30 PM

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56 finish mi2.5 ples

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 4:31 PM

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true

floral blade Jul 30, 2021, 4:34 PM

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copper nacelle why do you think I forced multiple people at gunpoint to swap with 1.5

hi i am people

jolly oriole Jul 30, 2021, 4:35 PM

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wow, calling yourself fat, brave

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 4:36 PM

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what

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 4:36 PM

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🔫

floral blade Jul 30, 2021, 4:45 PM

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jolly oriole wow, calling yourself fat, brave

what

primal latch Jul 30, 2021, 4:52 PM

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jolly oriole 56 finish mi2.5 ples

Yes. You have until the end of today

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I’ll also complete mi 1.5

deep wave Jul 30, 2021, 4:56 PM

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brb starting mi3 FeelsInvertedMan

primal latch Jul 30, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Ok. Imma start miF (mod installer Fyremoth). An installer only for Fyremoth

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~~Like anyone would use that~~

deep wave Jul 30, 2021, 4:59 PM

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why would i use an installer for something that doesn't exist

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 4:59 PM

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true

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Ok. imma start miP (mod installer Pale Court). An installer only for Pale Court

light zodiac Jul 30, 2021, 5:00 PM

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deep wave brb starting mi3 <:FeelsInvertedMan:775828907533795359>

Mi4*

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MI3 is taken

deep wave Jul 30, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Mi1028And1221And1432And15numbers

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Mi 1.5 supports multiple patches zote

light zodiac Jul 30, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Someone should do it

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Hmmm

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 5:02 PM

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it also supports removing my brain from my skull

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and lack of cross platform

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 5:02 PM

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light zodiac Someone should do it

I wonder if Someone is already doing it

jolly oriole Jul 30, 2021, 5:02 PM

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that shouldn't have been attached to begin with

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 5:02 PM

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copper nacelle and lack of cross platform

Who said that?

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 5:02 PM

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me

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it's literally winforms

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Oh ok sorry

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 5:03 PM

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copper nacelle it's literally winforms

Did not think of that

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Well I gtg

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 5:53 PM

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MISilksong will be written in PyQt

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 5:53 PM

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py

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omegaMaggotPrime

jolly oriole Jul 30, 2021, 5:53 PM

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why

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just do qml if you don't want type safety

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 5:55 PM

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are you gonna write MISS in rust 56

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are we gui yet

jolly oriole Jul 30, 2021, 5:57 PM

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make it in react or whatever the names of those are

floral blade Jul 30, 2021, 5:57 PM

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u want cordova / phonegap

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 7:15 PM

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would it be a bad idea to ship the credentials json for google oauth with the program

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 7:16 PM

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yes

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 7:16 PM

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thought so, I'm not good w key and auth stuff

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would it make it safe to embed the json in the build?

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 7:26 PM

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no

primal latch Jul 30, 2021, 8:04 PM

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worn eagle would it make it safe to embed the json in the build?

Nothing would be safe as long as it is on the users computer in any way

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 9:13 PM

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idrk how I'd be able to use a google api w/o having a sensitive json in the exe path, all the tutorials I see online use file streams to read in its data

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 9:15 PM

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get the user to authenticate with their own login

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or stop using gdrive

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 9:17 PM

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so use raw http requests?

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 9:18 PM

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I mean like pop up an oauth window

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 9:18 PM

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darn I was trying to get around that w a service account

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Idk how service accounts work

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Tbf

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if it's r/o and the limits are well imposed such that you can't ruin everyone else's shit it might be good

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 9:24 PM

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I think the drive owners need to share them with the service account, which may be a problem if poppy is in a coma

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and every guide I've seen online still has you read in a json file

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 9:25 PM

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User auth is definitely the safest because they can only fuck over themselves

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 9:26 PM

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muh ux

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2021, 9:27 PM

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true

worn eagle Jul 30, 2021, 9:38 PM

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@young walrus could you share the custom knight drive that you own with skin-manager-service-account@hollow-knight-skin-manager.iam.gserviceaccount.com?

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 10:37 PM

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<@&283547423706447872>

gilded lotus Jul 30, 2021, 10:38 PM

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MODS

jolly oriole Jul 30, 2021, 10:38 PM

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that dude posted it in #hk-discussion while mods where typing lol

vocal spire Jul 30, 2021, 10:38 PM

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lol

rough pulsar Jul 30, 2021, 11:00 PM

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~~i can't believe zaliant's birthday is coming in 2 days~~

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:troll:

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 1:09 AM

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do you think splitting up a credential json into a binary file containing a key and a text file encrypted via that key is secure enough

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using bouncy castle

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 1:20 AM

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no

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it doesn't matter what you're doing if the key is going to be distributed with the application effectively

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 1:37 AM

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copper nacelle Initalize shouldn't be

it appears to be alphabetical - here MoreEnemyHealth has a LoadPriority of 1 (same happens with 999) and EnemyHPBar has no load priority set

#

i can do the epic "simply rename my mod" for a temporary fix but yeah FeelsInvertedMan

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worth noting this is api 1.4.3.2-60

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 1:40 AM

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i would care

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but it's 1432

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 1:40 AM

#

omegaMaggotPrime

potent dirge Jul 31, 2021, 1:40 AM

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ax2uM

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 1:40 AM

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what if i posted the emote 🥺

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 1:40 AM

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then i would care even less

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 1:40 AM

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unfortunate

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 1:42 AM

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https://github.com/hk-modding/api/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/ModLoader.cs#L189 😤

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this one is ordered too

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captual

jolly oriole Jul 31, 2021, 1:43 AM

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i think specifically for ordering you wanted to link https://github.com/hk-modding/api/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/ModLoader.cs#L167-L169?

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 1:43 AM

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same difference

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the loop uses the ordered array

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ah

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i'm right

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@deep wave use 0

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 1:47 AM

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ah

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so LoadPriority should be low if you want your mod to load first

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seems extremely fucked

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lower than 1 no less

jolly oriole Jul 31, 2021, 1:50 AM

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reverse priority list shroompause

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 1:50 AM

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so would a better solution be to make it default to a number like 255, that way any mod with priority lower will load first and you can set it to higher if you want your mod to load after everything else

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or even default 0 and make it OrderByDescending ax2uHappy

potent dirge Jul 31, 2021, 1:51 AM

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i vote default 69

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 1:52 AM

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double.NegativeInfinity moment

jolly oriole Jul 31, 2021, 1:54 AM

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double.NaN

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 1:54 AM

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https://github.com/ManicJamie/api/commit/614c08c856f13d68b7d0987b2c4847fae84d76cf meme

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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simply go into the negatives coward

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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yeah that works but like it shouldn't work like that 🧐

jolly oriole Jul 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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costs an additional byte per mod

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of source code

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 1:57 AM

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just curious to see how quickly someone can crack the private key

📎 HollowKnight.SkinManager.7z

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 1:57 AM

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we do a little trolling

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why does avalonia ilspy not work

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terrible

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 2:02 AM

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negative loadpriority vs default loadpriority 1

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 2:02 AM

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pauseshroom

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why

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it's orderby

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i have definitely loaded things later

deep wave Jul 31, 2021, 2:06 AM

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all this is because i want to change the order methods on a hook are called, is there a separate way to do that?

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 2:08 AM

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no

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honestly

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i should change that

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there's a thing monomod does that is much cooler

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key

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content

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hmmm

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 2:10 AM

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well hidden am I right

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 2:12 AM

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true

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 2:15 AM

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idek how someone could use the private key to do malicious things cause it's linked to a service account

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but uh, does the app at least work?

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 2:22 AM

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i didn't test it i just decompiled it

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i am still installing dotnet

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because i can't build the decrypting anyways

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 2:26 AM

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ah shit, forgot users will need .net6

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 2:27 AM

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i have made a terrible mistake

Screen_Shot_2021-07-30_at_10.28.21_PM.png

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i just want

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to decrypt whatever this is

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this is so sad

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 2:28 AM

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couldn't you just intercept at the point where it gets decrypted and then print it out

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unless you want to decrypt it

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 2:29 AM

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i can't dnspy

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i am on my laptop

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because i am lazy as fuck

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and avalonia ilspy shits itself on your dll

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for some reason

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it just shows empty classes

#

MaggotPrime

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works on everything else though

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 2:33 AM

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that means it must be untouchable frogchamp

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 2:33 AM

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nah i ran dnspy console on it dw

#

i just need the package to actually build the encryption bit which means i was waiting for dotnet to install which has made brew upgrade my entire system

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fun

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where tf is org.bouncy

#

ah

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i am stupid

#

gg

#

that took significantly longer than it should have

#

.net6 preview

#

why

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i would test it

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 2:40 AM

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why I chose to use it?

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 2:40 AM

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but i also don't have hk installed

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no just a rhetorical why because it would involve installing it

#

i got this though ig

Screen_Shot_2021-07-30_at_10.43.20_PM.png

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 2:42 AM

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niceu

floral blade Jul 31, 2021, 9:13 AM

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so the new mapi loads mods from subdirectories, but i can just put all my mods in /mods/mymods/*.dll and it works ?

primal latch Jul 31, 2021, 9:24 AM

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yes

floral blade Jul 31, 2021, 9:46 AM

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nice mastersmirk

jolly oriole Jul 31, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Yesterday i found out that a large portion of sfcore is severly broken

crude wave Jul 31, 2021, 11:53 AM

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Have you updated the Mod installer for version 1.5 yet? How long will it take?

primal latch Jul 31, 2021, 1:54 PM

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No 2. As long as it takes

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 2:53 PM

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I have no idea how I'm going to handle atlases that are badly named

jolly oriole Jul 31, 2021, 2:54 PM

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just don't lol, put the blame on the authors

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 3:48 PM

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huh, I think if I dotnet publish users won't need to install .net6

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 3:48 PM

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if you do self contained yeah

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 3:49 PM

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resulting folder is 226 MB agoneyes

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 3:50 PM

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yeah

#

self contained is a bit large

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 3:57 PM

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macos noob here: is there a way to bring up your disk root in finder?

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 3:58 PM

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command shift g

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go wherever you want

worn eagle Jul 31, 2021, 4:01 PM

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if my arch install wasn't dead I could've tested on all platforms

copper nacelle Jul 31, 2021, 4:04 PM

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wsl it

primal latch Jul 31, 2021, 6:26 PM

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I think this should be made thread-safe

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Also, why is the json dll a file instead of a package?

fickle sparrow Jul 31, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Instance does literally nothing now

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because everything is static

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thats why we obsolete'd it

primal latch Jul 31, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Ah. Yeah

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Hi

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I want to create a Hollow Knight boss mod for my first attempt at a mod for this game

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Other than reading the APIDocs, is there a guide I could read to get started?

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I read the pins and all

worn eagle Aug 1, 2021, 3:57 AM

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use the source of other boss mods as references

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 3:57 AM

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worn eagle use the source of other boss mods as references

like Ultimatum Radiance? alright

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and what language is the API written in? C#?

worn eagle Aug 1, 2021, 3:58 AM

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ye

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the source you should take a look at depends on what kind of mod you're planning

jolly jungle Aug 1, 2021, 4:02 AM

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fair rampart I want to create a Hollow Knight boss mod for my first attempt at a mod for this...

great choice

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what kind of mod do you have in mind?

deep wave Aug 1, 2021, 4:10 AM

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if you're working on making a boss mod you will need to learn to read FSMs, FSMviewer should be pinned

daring nest Aug 1, 2021, 4:34 AM

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how would I go about making a charm replace an existing one? (think Void Heart replacing Kingsoul)

deep wave Aug 1, 2021, 4:37 AM

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void heart technically doesn't actually replace kingsoul, but is another "level" of the charm. regardless, you'd probably have the regular charm as normal then store in save settings a bool tracking whether you have the upgraded charm

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when you have the charm equipped, you can hook the get playerdata bool method to prevent the game from seeing the original charm, and from there you can program your own charm effects

daring nest Aug 1, 2021, 4:39 AM

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I think I see what you're talking about... I might be able to figure out how to do that

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I mean I get the gist of what you're saying, but have no clue how to actually make it happen

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keep in mind I'm almost entirely new to coding, save for experimenting a little with modding Terraria

deep wave Aug 1, 2021, 4:41 AM

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you should read the api documentation (pinned), specifically the playerdata reference and section on hooks

daring nest Aug 1, 2021, 4:41 AM

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yeah I've been looking at that a lot already

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 4:42 AM

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the one on github has a bit on changing charm sprites specifically

daring nest Aug 1, 2021, 4:42 AM

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have the doc bookmarked actually

daring nest Aug 1, 2021, 4:42 AM

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copper nacelle the one on github has a bit on changing charm sprites specifically

oh? that's also something I need to look into

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I just have all these ideas and need to find out how to implement them

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a new room in Godhome, a button mapping in the inventory to swap between Glorified and unglorified...

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shit, how do I test whether the player has obtained the Unbreakable version of a Fragile charm specifically?

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oh wait I found it

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 5:14 AM

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jolly jungle what kind of mod do you have in mind?

Sorry for the late response

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I want to make a unique Radiance fight mod that’s more complex than Any Radiance 2.0 Radiance in terms of fight features, but also has the fairness of Ultimatum Radiance

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How difficult would it be to summon enemies in a boss fight that has no adds?

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I understand most of the code shown in Ultimatum Radiance’s GitHub but I’m not sure if I’m biting off more than I can chew

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 5:17 AM

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deep wave if you're working on making a boss mod you will need to learn to read FSMs, FSMv...

Noted

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 6:07 AM

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FSMs look simple enough, it just looks like a node based event handler or whatever it's called

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right?

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im relatively new to programming, I took two computer science courses in High School from late 2019 to 2020

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so I know what objects and methods and the primitives are

daring nest Aug 1, 2021, 6:10 AM

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copper nacelle the one on github has a bit on changing charm sprites specifically

hey, would you mind sending me the link to that bit of documentation specifically?

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 6:21 AM

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https://hk-modding.github.io/api/articles/charms.html?tabs=tabid-1

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 6:28 AM

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say, if i wanted to identify if a GO is an enemy or npc, how would i go about doing that?

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 6:28 AM

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check if it has a health manager

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 6:29 AM

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that would tell me if it is a enemy right ?

copper nacelle Aug 1, 2021, 6:30 AM

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yes

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 6:30 AM

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okay that should work, what about NPCs ? do they have something like that ?

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 6:32 AM

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I’m so excited to start modding

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I’ll start by modifying Ultimatum Radiance’s ascension beam to be faster, and then I’ll test my knowledge if I can spawn light orbs during that phase

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 6:41 AM

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elderbug seems to have a "npc_control" FSM

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might be something i could use

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 6:50 AM

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I seem to be having an issue with FSMViewer

whenever I click on the Aim node, it crashes

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any idea why this occurs?

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and it crashed again on another node. oops

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 7:33 AM

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@copper nacelle are you still awake? I need some help since im about to go to bed

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mother's forcing me to bed soon but I want this to happen before I go

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 8:41 AM

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so im starting to build my edit of my mod to cap off tonight's session

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and for some reason a lot of errors pop up when I have both UnityEngine and UnityEngine.CoreModule referenced

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but in order to get rid of my remaining 20 errors I have to reference the CoreModule

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I should go to bed, I dont know how to solve this without pulling an allnighter. it's almost 4 am

light zodiac Aug 1, 2021, 8:58 AM

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What does your usings loook like?

floral blade Aug 1, 2021, 8:59 AM

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are you doing a using UnityEngine & using UnityEngine.CoreModule somewhere ?

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if so probably want to not do using UnityEngine.CoreModule

fair rampart Aug 1, 2021, 9:01 AM

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I’m using them both side by side in the references

cedar hemlock Aug 1, 2021, 9:02 AM

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not in references

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in usings

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their at the top

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of your code