@light zodiac just wondering, what are you making? Some kind of replay mod?
#archived-modding-development
primal latch
copper nacelle
the latest commit is for the beta
jolly oriole
one of the betas (screenshot is from february)
steady comet
870 FPS wtf
jolly oriole
yea, ingame i only have like somewhere inbetween 300-1k+ fps
copper nacelle
only 
rough pulsar
in main menu right 
light zodiac
yes 300-1k fps is a very small range of values
steady comet
My computer wishes it could reach the lofty heights of 300FPS
rough pulsar
i get like under 20 fps when in fullscreen
jolly oriole
main menu: 880
file select screen: 700 - 880 lol
i think one of the smaller scenes gives me 1k+ (like one of the shops or possibly the kingsbrand one)
jolly oriole
yea, a few frames
deep wave
sfg needs to start speedrunning to gain the elusive any% w/ loads wr
rough pulsar
it's impossible to read this
jolly oriole
i have hk on an hdd, it doesn't load that fast
light zodiac
define fast
jolly oriole
xero just told me that loading times are apparently cpu bound (and hdd vs ssd doesn't matter), so i may have an advantage, but idc
at least i can check mod performance in game quite well i guess
jolly oriole
try playing in this resolution
light zodiac
couldnt even get to 2k fps smh
jolly oriole
can't get hk to have lower than 480 width
rough pulsar
sad
jolly oriole
nvm, it just saved the width/height from one time i used the starting parameters, but i could only get to 19XX with a screen nearly too small to read the fps counter
runic wind
having some trouble with Resources.Load (I think), is this what a path should look like?
Texture2D tex = Resources.Load("Images.Fireball1.png") as Texture2D;
Possibly related, anyone know why Rider doesn't show any files in the Images folder in resources? If I try to add a new file with the same name it says it already exists, and if I open other solutions (e.g. rando 3.0) it shows images
hardy stump
Is there a hook specifically when enemies take damage (with parameter reference to source of damage) or when any of your spells deal damage to an enemy?
runic wind
looks like you could use HitInstanceHook
hardy stump
oh cool, i overlooked this somehow. Thanks, i'll investigate it to see what's possible
primal latch
having some trouble with Resources.Load (I think), is this what a path should lo...
Do you use embedded resources?
runic wind
I don't know what that is so I'm gonna guess no
primal latch
Where is that image stored?
runic wind
just a folder, I'm putting them into a .resx now
fathom terrace
hello everyone, I'm new to the server! I've put about 775 hours into Hollow Knight in the last year, and I'm just trying to get into speedrunning.
I am on linux, and I have a question about building the package
on the ReadMe for the HollowKnight.Modding github page, it says to "go to one of the directories below and copy it's contents to the 'Vanilla' folder
Where exactly is the 'Vanilla' Directory supposed to be on my machine?
oops, perhaps I asked this in the wrong forum. I'll ask it in modding-help. like I said, I'm new here and still finding my way around.
primal latch
just a folder, I'm putting them into a .resx now
I can't help you. I don't use Rider
runic wind
I got it, thanks though
jolly oriole
having some trouble with Resources.Load (I think), is this what a path should lo...
The api docs should have a thing that shows how to load embedded files
jolly oriole
56, what is your stand towards comment blocks in the middle of code?
copper nacelle
if it needs the explanation then i'm a fan
jolly oriole
copper nacelle
ty
jolly jungle
How can I preload Fools from the colosseum?
They aren't a part of the scene
They get spawned in later
I think
vocal spire
Preload what spawns them
jolly jungle
I'm not sure how that would work
There's tons of those cage things
and I'm not sure if they each are one enemy or if they get reused
vocal spire
Preload what spawns them, get the fsm, get the state, get the spawning action, instantiate the GameObject that is used in the spawning action
jolly jungle
It's not for instantiating but yeah that should work
jolly jungle
Wdym the normal ones?
Oh the ones in the resting area
I can't figure out which cage is which
It's either Wave 1\Colosseum Cage Large or Wave 1\Colosseum Cage Large (1)
I guess I can just try and see what happens?
But either way I can't know what FSM it is
It's one of the top ones (1) or the bottom ones (unnumbered)
@vocal spire idea?
vocal spire
¯_(ツ)_/¯
jolly jungle
Found this on the Spawn fsm on a cage
compared it to another, it might be the enemy we want
so how does it work?
Wait why does the small cage have "enemy type" while the large cage has "corpse to instantiate"
Why is it even referred to as corpse
Hm
Who made Custom Trials?
vocal spire
Jngo102 and Italy worked on it
vocal spire
Jngo102 left a while ago
jolly jungle
wdym
jolly jungle
Then who're the other two?
vocal spire
Anyone else isn’t the person you’re looking for
jolly jungle
Plus one who seems to be mola
jolly jungle
Anyone else isn’t the person you’re looking for
Aight thanks
hardy stump
What is the splatter AttackType?
hardy stump
Where does it come from? Is that from one of the hero’s charms?
merry lotus
Are there any suggestions of very small / simple mods to look at, to get an idea of the basic requirements of a mod?
primal latch
Hollow knight, but Myla is infected from the start
cedar hemlock
Are there any suggestions of very small / simple mods to look at, to get an idea...
Hell mod
steady comet
Are there any suggestions of very small / simple mods to look at, to get an idea...
This is a good one https://github.com/homothetyhk/HollowKnight.InfiniteNotches
nimble lake
Is there a way to disable the iframes of all enemies?
nimble lake
oh good point, then maybe lower it by a lot?
nimble lake
also anyone happens to know what the default JUMP_STEPS and JUMP_SPEED values are?
light zodiac
JUMP_SPEED is 16.65
JUMP_STEPS is 9
nimble lake
ty
lilac axle
So, I’m currently using version 1.3.5 of the debug mod. Do you know if this has been updated or if features have been added since this version?
nimble lake
So, I’m currently using version 1.3.5 of the debug mod. Do you know if this has ...
i have 1.3.6 but idk what's the difference
lilac axle
Got it, thank you
jolly oriole
2k fps poggers
light zodiac
Is the window as small as it looks?
merry lotus
I assumed you have to use a launch argument to make it that small, right?
jolly oriole
i made it window mode then just dragged it smaller until it didn't want to anymore
merry lotus
For some reason, my FPS don't change at different resolutions. They stay consistently around ~300 in the main menu, and ~400-600 in-game (I'm using Steam's FPS counter, fwiw), completely regardless of the resolution or the particle settings.
I was able to get this though:
celest bay
I want your CPU，my PC is too bad to work HK
jolly oriole
grenade
ryzen 7 3700X paired with a 2070 Super (idk if relevant, but also 32 GB ram)
bought back when prices were not as high
jolly oriole
was upgrading my pc to early for one of those 30's 😔
primal latch
was upgrading my pc to early for one of those 30's 😔
Not that you would be able to get your hands on one
jolly oriole
true
runic wind
ok am I being dumb or is the internal name for dash slash "UpwardsSlash" and the internal name for great slash "DashSlash"
vocal spire
Wow tc very consistent code you got there
jolly oriole
i have no idea if this is even supposed to work
probably does because nothing is returning something else
quiet crest
Wow tc very consistent code you got there
They’re code is flawless. Not a single bug in the game
light zodiac
i have no idea if this is even supposed to work
Isn't that how it's done in the FSMs?
potent dirge
does anyone know what "ghostCoins": 0, in playerdata refers to? 
steady comet
does anyone know what `"ghostCoins": 0,` in playerdata refers to? <:ax2uHmm:7160...
Pretty sure it's nothing, at least I couldn't find anything that references it
primal latch
It might be the amount of geo in your shade
potent dirge
very good guess, unfortunately that aint it 
im not sure where htats stored, but not there
primal latch
Ok
jolly oriole
the geo in your shade is geopool i think
primal latch
Team cherry really has a problem with naming things.
jolly oriole
yep, shade geo is geoPool pd int
primal latch
I mean, some enemies have 3 different names. Their in game name, their internal name and their journal name
primal latch
Hey everyone. I need some help. I'm currently writing a system for moving enemies around and creating them in a scene. We want to create enemies in scenes that they weren't in before. Preloading them all at the start of the game would use a lot of RAM and a lot of time. Is there a way for me to just load their prefabs? Resources.Load() Won't work since they are not located in a resource folder
jolly oriole
there probably is a way
primal latch
How does the custom trials mod do it? Do they preload everything?
light zodiac
yes
primal latch
ok
jolly oriole
preloading smh, real pros put enemies in custom scenes without preloading
copper nacelle
You can get some things with Resources.Load("") and using Resources.FindObjectsOfType
Don't know of any good general solution
primal latch
preloading smh, real pros put enemies in custom scenes without preloading
How? Wouldn't I have to preload them for that?
primal latch
You can get some things with Resources.Load("") and using Resources.FindObjectsO...
They aren't in a resources folder. Otherwise UTinyRipper would have put them in one
copper nacelle
ok and
Resources.Load("") loads a bunch of random shit anyways
Grimm flames are not in the resources folder
They're still easy to rob
jolly oriole
How? Wouldn't I have to preload them for that?
i mean, in your case it might be a bad idea, but in the case of the trial mods one can load their scenes before the colo scene, copy the enemies, then unload the original scene again and still keep the enemies
primal latch
ah. Loading a scene asynchronous
jolly oriole
don't have a good video of it
primal latch
I know how to do it
jolly oriole
best one i could find, just hearing hornet's theme isn't a thing anymore, works quite well
nimble lake
i had an idea of adding this to the game
or adding a 4th difficulty for HoG that's harder than radiant and puts a black void gem in the statue
might get around to do that sometime, we'll see
jolly oriole
i had an idea of adding this to the game
tbh, that shouldn't be too difficult, the extra difficulty will be more difficult to implement ofc though
light zodiac
just increase speed by 2. easy difficulty increase
deep wave
i had an idea of adding this to the game
iirc hitless gives a half glow, which is overridden by ab's full glow 🥴
nimble lake
might get around to do that sometime, we'll see
update: i gave up.
jolly jungle
Is there a way to disable the iframes of all enemies?
Wait what are enemy iframes
jolly jungle
Hey everyone. I need some help. I'm currently writing a system for moving enemie...
Once you figure out how to preload Fools tell me, please
I've been looking for a way for a week now
midnight narwhal
update: i gave up.
modding in a nutshell
primal latch
Wait what are enemy iframes
Invincibility frames
primal latch
Once you figure out how to preload Fools tell me, please
I’m looking for a way to avoid preloads
You could preload an object with a reference to the fools and get the reference from there
jolly jungle
Invincibility frames
lmao I know what iframes means
I meant, like, what's the use of them
how do they work
I never saw an enemy not be hittable
jolly jungle
You could preload an object with a reference to the fools and get the reference ...
yes and no
first of all, very hard to find which object exactly references the fools (so many cages with identical names) and second I don't know how to extract the fools from them, all I can find is a reference to some enemy number in the cages' fsms
And I dunno how to map numbers to enemies
primal latch
And I dunno how to map numbers to enemies
Me neither
nimble lake
I never saw an enemy not be hittable
they do have some iframes, you’ll notice it if you were to set your nail speed to very high
floral blade
In the context of Skin Remixer,
currently I am swapping out eyes by having a dataset of quadrilaterals that correspond to the skew, rotation , position and scale which the eye.png needs to have applied to it to be rendered on each sprite in the atlas. this works well for eyes but i was thinking about how to do the same for horns.
If i do the same thing as eyes and mark the default knight's horns, then only the horn type that sit on top of the knight's head would be supported.
I could instead replace the whole head, we'd need at-least 4 profiles of the head with horns (top, side, front & back) , they would be used to approximate all other head positions, this would not be able to account for horns that tilt backwards or get closer to each other (due to rotation of the head) , but would support more complex horn types.
Is there a better way to do this ?
light zodiac
@jolly jungle this worked for me
preload: ("Room_Colosseum_Gold", "Colosseum Manager")
Spawning the enemy
public class Fool : MonoBehaviour
{
public void Start()
{
GameObject manager = Class1.PreloadedObjects["Colosseum Manager"];
GameObject waves = manager.transform.Find("Waves").gameObject;
//armoredsquit
spawnPoint = HeroController.instance.transform.position;
enemy = waves.transform.Find("Wave 12/Colosseum Cage Small (4)").gameObject.LocateMyFSM("Spawn").Fsm
.GetFsmGameObject("Enemy Type").Value;
var enemycont = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate<GameObject>(enemy, spawnPoint, Quaternion.identity);
enemycont.SetActive(true);
}
private GameObject enemy;
private Vector3 spawnPoint;
}```
i got the `Wave 12/Colosseum Cage Small (4)` from The colosseum manager class in custom trial modWhich enemy is that for though?
jolly jungle
they do have some iframes, you’ll notice it if you were to set your nail speed t...
So, what's the use of the iframes?
light zodiac
Which enemy is that for though?
that's for armoured squit
nimble lake
So, what's the use of the iframes?
hitting them faster
when nail speed is in itself faster as well
jolly jungle
that's for armoured squit
Thanks
Think you can get me the four fools?
Or, better yet
light zodiac
Think you can get me the four fools?
which?
jolly jungle
Where's the code from
light zodiac
The colosseum manager class in custom trial mod
jolly jungle
The colosseum manager class in custom trial mod
Yeah I meant can you link it
light zodiac
i used dnspy
light zodiac
//sturdy
enemy = waves.transform.Find("Wave 50/Colosseum Cage Large").gameObject.LocateMyFSM("Spawn").Fsm
.GetFsmGameObject("Enemy Type").Value;
//heavy
enemy = waves.transform.Find("Wave 1/Colosseum Cage Large").gameObject.LocateMyFSM("Spawn").Fsm.GetFsmGameObject("Corpse to Instantiate").Value;
//sheild
enemy = waves.transform.Find("Wave 3/Colosseum Cage Large").gameObject.LocateMyFSM("Spawn").Fsm.GetFsmGameObject("Corpse to Instantiate").Value;
//winged
enemy = waves.transform.Find("Wave 6/Colosseum Cage Large").gameObject.LocateMyFSM("Spawn").Fsm.GetFsmGameObject("Corpse to Instantiate").Value;
So what exactly would enemy contain?
light zodiac
i didn't test these but i hope it works
jolly jungle
```cs
//sturdy
enemy = waves.transform.Find("Wave 50/Colosseum Cage Large").game...
Ah, thanks
light zodiac
So what exactly would `enemy` contain?
wdym?
nimble lake
hitting them faster
which would kill them very fast
light zodiac
it stores the gameobject of the enemy so when you want it, instantiate it
jolly jungle
Nah I don't want to instantiate it
I need other stuff
This'll work though, I'm pretty sure
Thanks 
light zodiac
np
light zodiac
I'm trying to load an image and i saw how other mods like transtrans is doing in. in the last line there's a cs _tex.LoadImage(buffer, true); but rider isn't recognizing it as a method
jolly oriole
... needs to be referenced
light zodiac
ImageConversionModule
Thanks
light zodiac
... needs to be referenced
What if i dont want to
jolly oriole
then you construct the texture by yourself out of the image bytes
light zodiac
sounds easier to do than referencing it
jolly oriole
unity docs on how to do it manually: https://docs.unity3d.com/2017.4/Documentation/ScriptReference/ImageConversion.LoadImage.html
jolly oriole
with that the loading of mods is so that a mod is loaded after all of its dependecies are loaded, and that replaces the MOD/LIBRARY/ADDON thing which is currently in the mapi
copper nacelle
but why
idk why the library thing is there either
assembly loads force more loads when required
jolly oriole
assembly loads force more loads when required
the one used in the mapi doesn't afaik
from a technical standpoint it's not really needed, but the MOD/LIBRARY/ADDON isn't either, afaik literally just there because of serecore
jolly oriole
i mean, it's also possible to completely remove the MLA thing and have the mods coordinate themselves with loadorder helping the alphabetical order
though i don't think that will end that well
jolly oriole
and also having the mods not in an alphabetical order will look funny
light zodiac
I'm doing this in my mods Initialize but its causing this
Assembly asm = Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly();
foreach (string res in asm.GetManifestResourceNames())
{
using (Stream s = asm.GetManifestResourceStream(res))
{
if (s == null) continue;
byte[] buffer = new byte[s.Length];
s.Read(buffer, 0, buffer.Length);
Texture2D texture2D = new Texture2D(2, 2);
MySprite = Sprite.Create(texture2D, GetRectForTexture(texture2D), new Vector2(0.5f, 0.5f), 64);
}
}
private static Rect GetRectForTexture(Texture2D texture)
{
return new Rect(0f, 0f, texture.width, texture.height);
}
poggers, idk why it's doing that
floral blade
I'm doing this in my mods Initialize but its causing this
```cs
Assembly asm = A...
is this all you do ? or do you use MySprite somewhere?
light zodiac
i'm not using it anywhere
jolly oriole
though i don't think that will end that well
and in general i think it's a good idea to have mods loaded in an order, which ensures that libraries are loaded at the start (though mods that don't have any dependencies will be in the same group)
copper nacelle
why though
I still don't get it
Something using a library type will force a load of that library
jolly oriole
hm, do be working, just tested (literally just loading a mod but not its dependency)
just one line of [INFO]:[API] - Couldn't resolve assembly is there
then the whole thing can be yeeted and the ugly version with loadorder can be done ig
maybe just fucks over serecore
copper nacelle
I'll ask Serena why that's even there
jolly oriole
no need to
before 1.5 never releases, more breaking changes:
static modhooks?
wait nvm, uses globalsettings for some reason
copper nacelle
I wonder how much I could swap to il
Was working on monomodding something else and with postprocess and ilcursor it's pretty easy
relatively
jolly oriole
wait nvm, uses globalsettings for some reason
nvm nvm, static modhooks should be possible by just making everything there static
i have no idea with IL, but sounds great?
jolly oriole
<https://www.github.com/fifty-six/UltimateChickenHorse.Modding/tree/master/Assem...
i see an .Emit, might not be possible with hk 1.5
jolly oriole
oh
copper nacelle
it's just reflection.emit which is stubbed out
jolly oriole
can we include files that make reflection.emit in 1.5 possible?
or is the one from monomod the same (or even better) performance?
making modhooks static feels dirty
i literally just put static in front of everything
copper nacelle
performance should be the same
I think generating the method takes a bit longer but besides that
actual calling is negligible
might be able to use the emit stuff as a lib anyways though
didn't look into it too hard
jolly oriole
actual calling is negligible
only thing that could be affected by this is recursion, but that is cursed in itself, so nothing bad
jolly oriole
might be able to use the emit stuff as a lib anyways though
sad
copper nacelle
tfw making emit work is sad
jolly oriole
oh
jolly oriole
read that as might not be able [...]
jolly oriole
no, you only retweeted it
copper nacelle
yhtsi
well it's here now ig
should remove the need to install the weird net 3.5 targeting pack stuff I think
don't have something without it to try it on though
jolly oriole
why is modhooks 2136 lines
copper nacelle
I know it works when the assemblies can't be detected at least
you gotta
There's a decent bit of boilerplate in each hook
Unfortunately
jolly oriole
i just changed a few lines in it to be static, but kept the instance to be backwards compatible in that case
for the people to not make that many changes
copper nacelle
seems fair
jolly oriole
https://github.com/HollowKnight-Modding/HollowKnight.Modding/pull/44 Make ModHooks static
jolly oriole
then ig with the modhooks to be static, i could make a pr to move loading of mods to the front, avoiding a real gamemanager stuff to be loaded
runic wind
the docs say that newgamehook has the signature void NewGame(int id) but my ide will only accept void NewGame(). How can I get the id?
primal latch
<https://github.com/HollowKnight-Modding/HollowKnight.Modding/pull/44> Make ModH...
Do we really have to rewrite our full mod when 1.5 releases?
light zodiac
when if
jolly oriole
Do we really have to rewrite our full mod when 1.5 releases?
Partially
vocal spire
Anything with fsms most likely needs to be rewritten, most other stuff is just updating to the new framework ver
light zodiac
<@&283547423706447872>
glossy olive
Yep
drifting glade
Got it
tough oak
Jesus fuck
remote zealot
ty
floral blade
what just happened ?
copper nacelle
Spam
jolly oriole
just a normal 'hey, i'm funny' thing
floral blade
okay
jolly oriole
jolly jungle
I am looking forward to it
nimble lake
cost for someone to make a mod that allows you to kill myla before you can normally kill her?
light zodiac
1 million
jolly jungle
cost for someone to make a mod that allows you to kill myla before you can norma...
Already exists I believe
nimble lake
wait really?
jolly jungle
I think it exists as a part of another mod
jolly jungle
But also that sounds very much like a fun mod to practice with at the start
floral blade
languid goblet
this is both incredibly cute and incredibly cursed
floral blade
i think i'm going to make this a proper mod 🥺
floral blade
finally raised a PR to modInstaller with my updates to CustomKnight 😁
jolly jungle
i think i'm going to make this a proper mod 🥺
are you gonna reduce jump and dash length?
jolly jungle
finally raised a PR to modInstaller with my updates to CustomKnight 😁
what were the updates?
floral blade
are you gonna reduce jump and dash length?
I think that might require some platforming sections to be tweaked, so not likely i'd do that
floral blade
<:shroompog:585688871552155649> what were the updates?
shade can finally be skinned now
runic wind
What on earth does profileID represent? I'm making files in the same slot over and over and getting different numbers
light zodiac
its the slot number i assume
runic wind
Ok I’ve also gotten zeros so clearly somethings wrong
Maybe I’m calling it before it’s properly loaded
light zodiac
Why would the save slot matter?
runic wind
This was supposed to be an easy, temporary way to create a usable seeded random, where slots 2-4 are based off the current date so you can have the same seed as someone else
Because menus are much harder to make
But it’s causing enough problems that I might just make the menu
floral blade
This was supposed to be an easy, temporary way to create a usable seeded random,...
this would be super cool for multiplayer randomizers
light zodiac
My solution would be to make a setting file and give the option for random seed or based on current date seed
runic wind
That’s a good idea
ornate rivet
Is there a specific Unity tutorial I should recommend to someone who wants to start learning unity?
jolly oriole
idk how good unity's own tutorials are, maybe those?
ornate rivet
alright
nimble lake
youtube has plenty
stiff bridge
Is there a specific Unity tutorial I should recommend to someone who wants to st...
I'd recommend just trying to make a basic 2D game and following tutorials when ur stuck on adding features. you can learn a lot from that
jolly jungle
Is there a specific Unity tutorial I should recommend to someone who wants to st...
Unity's own tutorials
Also, depends what they want to learn it for
for example, if someone wants to learn it jsut to mod a game like hollow knight, I'd suggest normal unity 3d tutorials, and then learn a bit of unity 2d just to know how to apply all the things in here
iron scarab
I have absolutely zero modding experience but
I was kinda thinking something like steel soul but even more painful
Enemies do 2 mask damage instead of 1, enemies that do 2 damage would now do 4, etc. During the infected crossroads, enemies will be able to hear the explosions and therefore track you down. It's harder to get nail upgrades(not much of a problem for speedrunners but its just a small challenge) and a brand new area that would be labelled something like "the hellhole" from the community. A small volcano like hole accessed from hallownests crown. contains the infection on the ground like the modded lost kin fight, and its just the colosseum of fools but it has more of a challenge. Also im so sorry if this is the wrong channel to talk about this stuff but i just had to get it out
it took so long to type that oml-
midnight narwhal
I think you may need to lower the scope of your mod slightly
primal latch
How would I change the sound of the spells?
floral blade
this is how HKMP gets at it
var spellControl = HeroController.instance.spellControl;
var fireballParent = spellControl.GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Fireball 1", 3).gameObject.Value;
var fireballCast = fireballParent.LocateMyFSM("Fireball Cast");
var audioAction = fireballCast.GetAction<AudioPlayerOneShotSingle>("Cast Right", castAudioIndex);
var audioPlayerObj = audioAction.audioPlayer.Value;
=>> audioAction.audioClip.Value
ok. Thanks
jolly jungle
<@!427473606725861397> this worked for me
preload: `("Room_Colosseum_Gold", "C...
Where did you use Fool.cs?
light zodiac
Save game load hook and in the hook
GameManager.instance.gameObject.AddComponent<Fool>()
light zodiac
Spawn in a armoured squit
light zodiac
Yes, load a save
jolly oriole
move cursor, hover over it again
jolly jungle
Wait nevermind
The problem I had wasnt there
I mean that might still be a problem
But idk yet
prime urchin
Three dots under something mean it's a 'suggestion', not necessarily a problem. In that case I'd assume it's suggesting that you can use target-typed new().
jolly oriole
how do i open the package manager in unity 2017? it's not listed in the window things
screenshot
nvm, 2017 doesn't have a package manager
vocal spire
make one yourself
dusky flare
Is there any place where I can start to learn how to create mods for the game, I've used unity a lot but never modded anything
jolly oriole
dusky flare
ty!!
gaunt scaffold
Hey, I need some help getting the impossible hollow knight mod by kaizo running
I've downloaded the files but I'm not sure how to import them into the modsintaller
or if that's even the way I'm supposed to go about it
oh my b wrong channel
timid palm
helo i just saw the trailer for pale court and wanted to know if there's any further information about the development
pure nova
It exists.
I can say that with some certainty.
At least more so than about Silksong's existence.
unreal heron
anyone got some custom skins for hk?
light zodiac
anyone got some custom skins for hk?
#modding-discussion pins
nimble lake
helo i just saw the trailer for pale court and wanted to know if there's any fur...
it’s in development still
much like ss
jolly oriole
also seen in the comments of https://redd.it/nk8joa
nimble lake
can i not just set the nail size somehow?
primal latch
can i not just set the nail size somehow?
can you do orig(self) before changing it?
also, try using scale instead of localScale
nimble lake
i don't have scale
also is orig(self) not before it already?
pure nova
can i not just set the nail size somehow?
You have to do:
private void NailSlash_StartSlash(On.NailSlash.orig_StartSlash orig, NailSlash self)
{
orig(self);
self.transform.localScale = new Vector3(self.scale.x * nailSize, self.scale.y * nailSize, self.scale.z);
}```what would the nailsize be?
pure nova
Whatever you want it to be.
pure nova
Who shadow-pinged?
jolly oriole
araraura pinged then deleted
pale crest
👍
jolly oriole
there is
Room_Colosseum_01
Room_Colosseum_02
Room_Colosseum_Bronze
Room_Colosseum_Silver
Room_Colosseum_Gold
Room_Colosseum_Spectate
Bronze silver gold is prob the fights
Spectate when theres no fight but you can see it
(Idk just guessing)
jolly oriole
01 is entrance, 02 is lower thing, bronze/silver/gold are the trials, spectate is the right part, when you go to pale lurker
jolly oriole
yes
prime urchin
separate scenes were probably easier to organize and transition between instead of having it all in one scene
pale crest
perhaps
and the crowd does have different reactions for each trial
depending on which enemy wave you cleared
wondering if this will work
crap, spectate is supposed to be bronze, silver, or gold
jolly oriole
that will make the background in dark when you are on the right side (the passage to the pale lurker arena)
pale crest
yeah, meant to put Room_Colosseum_Gold
gonna see how it goes
success
is there a list of all game objects?
jolly oriole
the pins has a rar with a dump of all gameobjects in nearly all base game scenes
pale crest
oh is it scenes.rar
jolly oriole
yea
pale crest
looks like I'll have to scroll through bunch of text just for "lantern" in Room_Colosseum_Gold
oh nvm it's lamp
light zodiac
If you wanna reduce lag you probs also wanna delete the crowd
pale crest
good idea
how's this edit
it's just for the lanterns, but I'll def add in the crowd
deep wave
you are aware there's a modding api right?
preferable to changing assembly so multiple mods can be used at once
pale crest
I'm a complete noob, what's that
I just see it in top left with other mod names whenever I start up HK
deep wave
it provides hooks for changing stuff in game & an interface to interact, enable/disable, and use load order
plus there are other library mods you can use to reduce how much work you have to do for certain things
pale crest
thank you very much for the information! but this isn't my mod 😅
I'm just attempting to add on more to it
might need to ask mulhima how to allow for more game object destroying
light zodiac
Just add more if statements
light zodiac
bool flag = arg1.name == "room_colosseum_gold";
if (flag)
...
Firstly the capitalization in the room name is most probs wrong and dont make it arg2 keep it arg1. I recommend using VS or another IDE to do it it'll be easier
pale crest
aight
looks like I didn't download VS for nothing
will I still hear audience noises or no
has to be .net framework 3.5 me thinks
pale crest
getting red everywhere...
don't think there's a difference between blindradiance making bg dark vs deleteobjects? prob is
light zodiac
add reference to Modding API
the assembly C-sharp.dll in your managed folder
also to UnityEngine.dll and UnityEngine.CoreModule.dll also in managed folder
pale crest
how uh
how do I make a reference 😅
light zodiac
press Ctrl + Alt + L and right click on references
stone elm
Okay, click browse and navigate to the folder mulhima mentioned and select the dlls they mentioned as well.
I hate to sound overtly critical but please spend some time on microsoft's site looking at some C# info and how-tos for visual studio.
It almost appears like you could use some refreshment there and this isn't necessarily a programming bootcamp
I usually invite people to DM me with programming/beginner's questions if they feel stuck, but this isn't the place for that.
stone elm
I'm not at all upset or trying to poke at you, I just saw the tail end here and jumped in. The fact that you have VS and have the source code open and are in it and doing stuff is actually very good.
I just try to indicate that if we held everyone's hand here then we'd end up neck deep in help vampires...
pale crest
good point
I probably should've known that if I was going to even do a little bit of "modding", I could familiarize myself with this stuff
stone elm
It's a big reason why I invite people to DM me (and that definitely extends to you and anyone else here) if they want more guided assistance. This channel has, in my short time here, historically been about answering quick questions on modding techniques
I love programming and it genuinely excites me to see people try it, even just in game modding. It's why I want to help. 
pale crest
lol I'm kinda the opposite, like I'll learn some basics of java, c++, or python but I really hate how much... stuff there is to remember
all the technical jargon on stack overflow doesn't help either
like it's complete nonsense to me
stone elm
My strongest advice is that it takes time to "get" it all. It's a skill like a lot of other things and you learn the jargon as you learn the skill. Electricians probably don't start training day 1 knowing all the tools and jargon, right?
I was basically a baby when I started trying to mod hollow knight since I've never modded Unity before and learning all of how it works is quite a journey.
pale crest
I wish I could have that motivation, but it's disheartening when you have a lot of questions and you can't find the right people or sources to get answers
oh well
stone elm
Well I literally said you can DM me anytime (twice). Ironically, I'm actually gonna be out of home for the rest of tonight (EDT) but most other times I'll see messages.
pale crest
I read that the first time dw 😆
was just saying in general
like if I never found this server I would still be stumbling in the dark
stone elm
Don't be afraid to ask questions, but don't ever ask a question without trying or looking for the answer first. Sometimes you gotta seek out that help, I get it. (Also it helps to let people know what you searched/tried when you ask your question, it's super nice to know what you tried when answering Qs)
Anyway, I do gtg for tonight. If you get stuck again then follow 
and ask here or DM me for me to see later. bye4now
light zodiac
also to UnityEngine.dll and UnityEngine.CoreModule.dll also in managed folder
an add reference to these
light zodiac
yea, that's just how dnspy decompiles the code
light zodiac
maybe wanna add lamp?
light zodiac
press build
pale crest
build solution?
jolly oriole
i hate making a small error in an editor script
deep wave
yes dll? the mod is a dll you put in the mods folder
jolly oriole
creating scenemanagers from scratch is difficult if you mess up the editor script for it
jolly oriole
maybe
soft inlet
Hi guys! I was wondering how I'd be able to replace sound effects? I read up on someone trying to do the same thing and heard they managed to get help here, so I was wondering if I could get the same?
soft inlet
<https://github.com/SFGrenade/CustomBgm/blob/master/ReadMe.md>
Thank you!
jolly jungle
creating scenemanagers from scratch is difficult if you mess up the editor scrip...
Nice music
primal latch
So, I imported Assembly-CSharp.dll in a unity project. How can I add the scripts from the assembly to a gameobject? It says that I have to fix compiler errors
cedar hemlock
Do you have the unity 2017?
jolly oriole
Nice music
thanks, i didn't make it myself
ornate rivet
metroid music ftw
jolly oriole
maybe i'll just gonna use original (slightly edited to loop better), though 1 loop is fricking 8 minutes
nimble lake
Is there any way i can make the HUD display more than a maximum of 11 regular masks?
or is it hardcoded
jolly oriole
Is there any way i can make the HUD display more than a maximum of 11 regular ma...
yes, copy one of the masks and edit the fsm on it (idk if positioning is also needed)
nimble lake
oh you can create more fsms?
jolly oriole
GameObject.Instatiate "Health 1", rename to "Health 12", set position to (0.02, 7.7, -2), edit "health_display" fsm int variable "Health Number" to 12
ofc, have the same parent for health 12 as for health 1
position can be calculated with
x_pos = -10.32f + (0.94f * (num - 1)); // 1 is at 10.32f, 12 is at 0.02f
ok i'll try, thank you
jolly oriole
btw only needed exactly once on initialize, and unless you track which health things you added, not easily toggleable
merry lotus
Anyone know of a good way to have a free/low cost MacOs VM?
I genuinely want to have a lil' one just to better understand the environment.
(I want this to be able to get help people with Mac issues when modding, but thought that people here may be more likely to know)
jolly oriole
is there an example on how to use the new mod settings classes?
merry lotus
Is Mod Installer 2 on GitHub at all? I'm pretty sure I found 1, but I didn't find 2
jolly oriole
maybe i'll just gonna use original (slightly edited to loop better), though 1 lo...
yay
ornate rivet
lmao
mellow shore
is anyone here familiar with spirtepacker?
it used to work so that any sprites that were duplicated across animations would automatically be applied there
this has stopped working 
nimble lake
man, modding is hard.
jolly oriole
it do be
nimble lake
especially when you don't have an example to copy learn from
jolly oriole
take whatever's closest and "get inspired"
primal latch
"get inspired"="copy code, get bugs, search stackoverflow, copy code, etc."
vocal spire
Then “feel confident” and fail
“feel confident”=“write code yourself without copying”
ornate rivet
what's the best way to give an object the metal spike/saw tink effect again?
jolly oriole
preload it
ornate rivet
sigh
jolly oriole
i mean, that how i did it because i looked at the tink effect thing and you may be able to just GameObject.find it, but idk
steady comet
what's the best way to give an object the metal spike/saw tink effect again?
IDK if this is actually what you want to do, but rando has code to do something like this, I think
https://github.com/homothetyhk/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod3.0/Components/RandomizerTinkEffect.cs
vocal spire
preload it
well time for pale court to have another
obtuse sphinx
Hi, I am quite new to modding and I wanna ask. I saw this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0iSlGRg1U and in one part fiftysix is using Assembly-CSharp_V.dll except the classical Assembly-CSharp.dll. It seems more easier with it to look in the code, but I don't have the the file anywhere. Did he made it on his own? Or can I get it somewhere?
vocal spire
Hi, I am quite new to modding and I wanna ask. I saw this tutorial https://www.y...
Go into hk’s files/Hollow_knight_data/managed
obtuse sphinx
I took peek there, but i don't have the vanilla API there
vocal spire
You should probably use the modded one since that’s the one you need to reference
obtuse sphinx
I know but the vanilla one is for dnSpy and it looks easier to search in it than it the normal assembly
vocal spire
To get the vanilla one then you need to unmod your game, or there should be a Assembly-CSharp.vanilla file if the installer worked correctly
obtuse sphinx
Ok, thanks!
forest spindle
howdy modders! if im beginnerish at C# and Unity but still want to get into modding, where do i start?
dang it
merry lotus
There's a lot of resources in the pins, including a link to the API, which has a "Getting Started" page
floral blade
Is it only 56 who can merge modinstaller prs?
jolly oriole
No, but hes like 23/7 online
primal latch
Hey. When I get an error the stack trace is unable to give me a line number or file. How can I fix that? Or is there no way to fix it
potent dirge
as i just reinstalled windows and have to reinstall all SDKs and everything like that, what exactly is needed to mod HK? Last time i remember having to install like a billion GB of c++ build tools along with visual studio to build literally anything, and i dont know if thats supposed to happen 🥴
jolly oriole
.net framework 3.5 dev tools
.net sdk? (idk, i have it though)
potent dirge
@ 56 youre like super smart what if you like made a super quick list for it 🥺
primal latch
as i just reinstalled windows and have to reinstall all SDKs and everything like...
You don’t need c++ you need c#
primal latch
that wasn't the question
He said he remembers having to install c++ tools
potent dirge
yea, i know i shouldn't need c++ tools, but I might also be mixing up with something else 
oh yea, sorry, i was mixing up with a C project. entire C/C++ everythings to build a relatively simple, low-level C program 
also OK wtf visual studio doesn't even have themes in their "shop"??
copper nacelle
Hey. When I get an error the stack trace is unable to give me a line number or f...
convert pdb to mdb and might need the unity debug player
alternatively use 1.5
the only thing you should need is the 3.5 sp1 thing
you can also get the assemblies off nuget and avoid installing that which is easier for individual projects but probably worse in the end if you're going to work on other people's stuff where they didn't do that
floral blade
56 pls merge custom knight pr on modinstaller
copper nacelle
I gotta ask jngo
not about to overwrite someone's mod link without asking you get me
floral blade
Yes makes sense ! I'd asked about this process before
Just wanted to be sure it was on your radar
ornate rivet
best way to make infected enemy particles hit/death effect not infected?
I tried removing the InfectedEnemyEffects component, adding the uninfected one and copying the fields from another uninfected enemy but
I get this junk
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - NullReferenceException
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - InfectedEnemyEffects.RecieveHitEffect (single) <0x0007a>
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - (wrapper dynamic-method) HealthManager.DMD<HealthManager..TakeDamage> (HealthManager,HitInstance) <0x00c41>
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - (wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<HealthManager..TakeDamage>?636636672 (HealthManager,HitInstance) <0x0002a>
for some reason healthmanager still uses infectedenemyeffects
which made me think it must be because the hiteffectreceiver that's called on is stored in Awake() of the HealthManager like:
this.hitEffectReceiver = this.GetComponent<IHitEffectReciever>();
so I used hooks to swap the InfectedEnemyEffects with the uninfected one before Awake runs
but that didn't change anything
floral blade
how does one cause the camera in hollow knight to zoom in ?
jolly oriole
move z position
floral blade
oh, it is in 3d ?
runic wind
does fsm.RemoveTransition even work? Every time I've tried it it's done nothing and I've used a workaround instead
copper nacelle
yeah
safe hamlet
ornate rivet
nope
floral blade
hkmote - An HKMP addon mod that allows multiplayers to use the knight's animations as emotes even when the other player does not have hkmote.
Any suggestions on animations that might make sense as emotes ?
it might work with the other multiplayer mod as well, i haven't tried it.
ornate rivet
nicee
jolly oriole
editor scripts make this way more apealing, sadly i accidentally deleted it 🥴
ornate rivet
:(
jolly oriole
just made it again
floral blade
Both Hkmote & SmolKnight v1 is complete !
https://github.com/ricardosouzag/ModInstaller/pull/98
primal latch
so, I have a copy of an enemy and I want to change the texture for only that enemy. How would I do that? ```cs
GameObject obj = UObject.Instantiate(preloadedObjects["Deepnest_30"]["_Enemies/Baby Centipede"]);
obj.name = "scolopendra";
Instance.Log("getMat");
Material mat = SpritePatcher.customEnemiesBundle.LoadAsset<Material>("scolopendraMat");
obj.GetComponent<MeshRenderer>().material = mat;
obj.GetComponent<MeshRenderer>().materials[0] = mat;
tk2dSprite sprite = obj.GetComponent<tk2dSprite>();
for (int i = 0; i < sprite.Collection.spriteDefinitions.Length; i++)
{
Instance.Log("setMat");
sprite.Collection.spriteDefinitions[i].material = mat;
}
sprite.Collection.material = mat;
sprite.Collection.materials[0] = mat;
sprite.Collection.textures[0] = mat.mainTexture;
sprite.name = "scolopendra";
obj.SetActive(false);
UObject.DontDestroyOnLoad(obj);``` this is what I'm currently doing
you want to update just for the specific instance or all copies?
primal latch
that specific instance
jolly oriole
then you're done.
primal latch
then you're done.
what do you mean?
jolly oriole
so, I have a copy of an enemy and I want to change the texture for only that ene...
after this the texture is replaced and you have it changed
primal latch
wierd. It doesn't change
floral blade
sprite.Collection.spriteDefinitions might be shared across other copies though
merry lotus
hkmote - An HKMP addon mod that allows multiplayers to use the knight's animatio...
Lmk if you ever need help testing it- edit: I just saw that you put a PR for ModInstaller, so I can test it from there :)
Also, as far as suggestions: The "Challenge" pose would be good imo.
floral blade
~~Lmk if you ever need help testing it-~~ edit: I just saw that you put a PR for...
yep "Challenge Start" is in there ^^
primal latch
Okay, so I just tried everything and the only thing that changes sprites is setting the texture for the material and that changes everything. Setting the material to something else on everything (all materials in references too) and nothing happends
floral blade
1 option is to set a material property block on the particular enemy
another is to create a deep copy of the sprite.collection
not sure which would be better performance wise but materialPropertyBlock is easier to implement
primal latch
1 option is to set a material property block on the particular enemy
I don't know what you mean. I already tried setting the material on everything
floral blade
try something like this
var materialPropertyBlock = new MaterialPropertyBlock();
MeshRenderer renderer = go.GetComponent<MeshRenderer>();
if(renderer != null){
renderer.GetPropertyBlock(materialPropertyBlock);
materialPropertyBlock.SetTexture("_MainTex", t);
go.GetComponent<MeshRenderer>().SetPropertyBlock(materialPropertyBlock);
}
primal latch
ok
primal latch
try something like this
var materialPropertyBlock = new MaterialPropertyBlock()...
this doesn't seem to work
light zodiac
Is your preloading correct?
primal latch
yes
floral blade
this doesn't seem to work
Any errors in your modlog after doing this?
primal latch
Any errors in your modlog after doing this?
nope
light zodiac
Whats in your preloaded dict and initialize?
primal latch
public override void Initialize(Dictionary<string, Dictionary<string, GameObject>> preloadedObjects)
{
Log("Initializing");
preloadedObjects["GG_Vengefly"]["Boss Scene Controller/Dream Entry/Knight Dream Arrival"].GetComponent<tk2dSprite>().GetCurrentSpriteDef().material.mainTexture = SpritePatcher.skinsBundle.LoadAsset<Texture2D>("DreamArrival");
GameObject centipede = preloadedObjects["Deepnest_30"]["_Enemies/Baby Centipede"];
ScenePatcher.enemies.Add("Baby Centipede", centipede);
GameObject obj = UObject.Instantiate(preloadedObjects["Deepnest_30"]["_Enemies/Baby Centipede"]);
obj.name = "scolopendra";
obj.SetActive(false);
UObject.DontDestroyOnLoad(obj);
ScenePatcher.enemies.Add("scolopendra", obj);
ScenePatcher.enemies.Add("Buzzer", preloadedObjects["Tutorial_01"]["_Enemies/Buzzer"]);
InitCallbacks();
Log("Initialized");
}```I think the preloads should be fine since you got them to swap the texture on material for all of the enemies
floral blade
this doesn't seem to work
Could you share the part where you'd done this ?
primal latch
Could you share the part where you'd done this ?
using System.Collections;
using UnityEngine;
namespace Fyremoth.behaviour
{
class Scolopendra : MonoBehaviour
{
private void Awake()
{
Fyremoth.Instance.Log("WOKE");
_centipede = FSMUtility.LocateMyFSM(gameObject, "Centipede");
}
private IEnumerator Start()
{
Fyremoth.Instance.Log("STARTED");
var materialPropertyBlock = new MaterialPropertyBlock();
MeshRenderer renderer = GetComponent<MeshRenderer>();
if (renderer != null)
{
renderer.GetPropertyBlock(materialPropertyBlock);
materialPropertyBlock.SetTexture("_MainTex", SpritePatcher.customEnemiesBundle.LoadAsset<Material>("scolopendraMat").mainTexture);
GetComponent<MeshRenderer>().SetPropertyBlock(materialPropertyBlock);
}
_centipede.SetState("Init");
yield return new WaitWhile(() => _centipede.ActiveStateName != "Dormant" && _centipede.ActiveStateName != "Emerge Antic");
_centipede.SetState("Set Active");
GetComponent<MeshRenderer>().enabled = true;
yield break;
}
private void Update()
{
Fyremoth.Instance.Log("Centipede: " + _centipede.ActiveStateName);
}
// Token: 0x0400003C RID: 60
private PlayMakerFSM _centipede;
}
}
this is a component added after initializing a clone of the preloaded object
floral blade
could you check if your renderer is null ?
primal latch
I'll check later
jolly oriole
possibility to dump audiomixersnapshots from the game?
primal latch
@floral blade thanks! I got it to work
fair rampart
Hi
Were can I find fsm of charms effects? In my case I want to place sharpshadow effect in a boss battle
I know I can do this: ProvaHornet.sharpShadow = HeroController.instance.sharpShadowPrefab;
but I need the gameObject of sharpShadow effect or at least fsm names
vocal spire
Were can I find fsm of charms effects? In my case I want to place sharpshadow ef...
Use fsmviewer
ornate rivet
what's the smallest uninfected enemy?
worn eagle
sly 
floral blade
the electric fly thingies
jolly oriole
and which one can be hit?
ornate rivet
which ones have a small uninfected death explosion thing*
runic wind
ok I think I'm just being super dumb but I need some help with visual studio. After adding a new class to a project, other classes don't recognize it's existence. I edited the .csproj to include it, and now other classes can reference it, but it can't reference other classes, and it shows up in miscellaneous files instead of the project (though it's visible in the correct place in the solution explorer. How the hell do I use visual studio?
Rider was so user friendly 
prime urchin
it shows up in miscellaneous files instead of the project (though it's visible in the correct place in the solution explorer.
what do you mean by this? could you take a screenshot of your solution explorer?
prime urchin
looks like you right-clicked your solution and then added an item from there - you have to right-click your project and add the class to it instead
prime urchin
np
runic wind
is there a way to access save mod settings from a static context? Like how you can do Modding.Logger.Log()
prime urchin
You can store your instance of your mod class and access it through there
public class MyMod : Mod
{
public static MyMod Instance { get; }
public ModSettings Settings { get; }
public MyMod()
{
Instance = this;
}
}
something like this
then do MyMod.Instance.Settings
runic wind
smart, thanks
jolly jungle
so, I have a copy of an enemy and I want to change the texture for only that ene...
AAAAA FINALLY
THANK YOU
(im pretty sure this is what I've been looking for for a week and a half now)
floral blade
super noob issue :
how do i compress files into zips on mac without it generating crap like this ?
I don't even see this directory structure when i extract the files ! I'd to upload it on some web based extractor to even see this crap.
floral blade
i mean it broke moddingapi when CK was installed by modInstaller 😦
so would like to avoid this
floral blade
redfrog was nice enough to create a zip on windows and share , so i've used that in the release hopefully more people will no longer be impacted by this (i'm not sure if the zip is cached though)
primal latch
@floral blade could you send me the broken zip? I want to write a fix for it
floral blade
this zip should be broken
primal latch
Ok. Thanks
floral blade
@copper nacelle sorry for the ping but once you're able could you revert the ck update ?
https://github.com/ricardosouzag/ModInstaller/pull/99/files
seem's like it's broken for a lot of people
@light zodiac basically mac's built in zipping tool adds a bunch of extra hidden files in the zip that breaks modapi when installed by the installer 😦
merry lotus
Can you delete files within an archive, like you can on windows?
So like, zip a folder, then open it and delete the bad files
floral blade
So like, zip a folder, then open it and delete the bad files
i'd updated the zip on my github and i assume mod installer gets it from there. the problem i think is people are still getting older zip via some cache maybe ? & then there's the charms bug.
apparently making the zip via a third party tool does not have this issue so that's what i plan to do once i fix the charms bug.
till then it might be best to revert to a version that we know worked
jolly jungle
My code didn't work.....
ah damnit
I just opened up all my stuff and planned to copy your code
And then saw this
primal latch
try something like this
var materialPropertyBlock = new MaterialPropertyBlock()...
@jolly jungle use this
jolly jungle
@primal latch can you explain MaterialPropertyBlock? I looked in the docs but I don't really understand it
is it like a chunk of material presets?
primal latch
IDK
I didn't write that code
it just works
totally not an unsafe way to write code
vocal spire
Imma test by cloning the sprite collection and see if it works (iirc mandar1jn was having problems with the enemy getting hit)
jolly jungle
it just works
We both know that's good enough for me
I'm trying to do all the material changing stuff in the main script; should I just make a script to attach the enemy in question and do everything in there?
What I meant to do at first was make all the new materials in the main file and then all the enemy scripts will use them
jolly jungle
```cs
using System.Collections;
using UnityEngine;
namespace Fyremoth.behaviour...
what exactly are you doing here? it'll be easier to understand if I know what it's meant to be
jolly oriole
i edited nes's fsm viewer a bit to work with gog installations (nes's required steam env variables)
and the new one doesn't have auto filter when typing (and the newest one i just downloaded doesn't even have a scene list 🥴)
may require to select game path each time scene list is clicked
jolly oriole
```cs
using System.Collections;
using UnityEngine;
namespace Fyremoth.behaviour...
leaking Fyremoth code poggers
dark wigeon
i edited nes's fsm viewer a bit to work with gog installations (nes's required s...
make pr?
jolly oriole
ok
does require winforms though, so it would change quite a bit for that
wait nvm, i'm just dumb and tried to write less code
pr open
dark wigeon
avalonia has a folder picker you pickle
primal latch
leaking Fyremoth code poggers
It doesn't even work.....
jolly oriole
avalonia has a folder picker you pickle
for the pr?
jolly oriole
then it would've added the avalonia reference instead of winforms
dark wigeon
oh did you pr the wpf one?
jolly oriole
yea
dark wigeon
oh
jolly oriole
dark wigeon
maybe fallback on steam instead of removing it entirely?
jolly oriole
1 sec, can add that
dark wigeon
also I guess winforms is fine since you pr'd the non-avalonia one
jolly oriole
done
dark wigeon
just make it before the folder picker
dark wigeon
otherwise the user has to know to cancel/empty input to select the path
o
well just remove it then
heck it already has a folder picker
just make the registry check fall back to that one if you wanted to
jolly oriole
wow, missed that
brb closing the thing and making a new one that just removes the messagebox lol
dark wigeon
you could've done it without the noRegistry variable since it's only used once but I'm just being picky at this point
its merged
jolly oriole
you could've done it without the noRegistry variable since it's only used once b...
yea, not the greatest but it's only a single bool, can't crash the whole program, right?
dark wigeon
I have yet to have a single bool crash a program
jolly oriole
i can be the first to have added a crash bool
dark wigeon
no thank you
copper nacelle
if (x) unsafe { ((delegate* <void>) 0)() }
dark wigeon
it would probably be like
if (randomValue > 5) throw new Exception("meep");
I had one exception in avalonia that output a string that I couldn't find in the source code
Turns out they did like
if (obj == null)
throw new NotImplementedException(obj.GetTypeName().Substring(0,3));
so it's supposed to be like str or int
I guess
But it was just giving me ass lol
from AssetsFile
jolly oriole
lol
copper nacelle
lmfao
runic wind
Are there any mods besides rando that make changes to the main menu? the rando code is pretty intimidating
jolly oriole
if you mean the entirety of main menu, sfcore allows you to have custom main menu themes
copper nacelle
if you look at 1.5's api there's main menu builder stuff now
arctic pollen
how would one go about making a new mod?
vocal spire
- Install ModdingApi from mod installer
- Create a new c# net framework 3.5 class library project
- Reference AssemblyC-sharp.dll from your hollow knight installation(hollow_knight_Data/Managed)
- Create a class that inherits from mod
There’s a mod that does nothing
To try it, build the project, and drop the compiled .dll file in the Mods folder in your hk installation(hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods)
arctic pollen
I see, thanks a lot 🙂
vocal spire
To actually do stuff, use ModHooks(explained in the apidocs) or On hooks in a overrided Initialize method in the mod class
Also you should probably reference other assemblies from the managed folder as well(most likely UnityEngine.dll, UnityEngine.CoreModule.dll, PlayMaker.dll)
arctic pollen
Ah those ones, thanks
vocal spire
You’ll probably need more depending on what you do but that’s the basics that I can think of
UnityEngine.Physics2DModule.dll
arctic pollen
Basically thinking of making a vengefly king mod.
vocal spire
Ok
You’ll probably want a hook for when a scene is loaded(UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.activeSceneChanged is good)
arctic pollen
Are the dll files and their functions listed in the docs?
vocal spire
Not really
Usually visual studio tells me what I need to reference if I haven’t already done it though
arctic pollen
oh ok
vocal spire
Usually you can tell by the name
arctic pollen
i see
ornate rivet
is there a layer that acts like an unclimbable wall but lets you go through it with shadow dash?
layer 8 still lets you climb it and layer 25 doesn't but it doesn't let you shadow dash either
looks like there's no layer that does that automatically
primal latch
Look at the way the shadow gates are set up?
ornate rivet
yea, they just disable and reenable manually
primal latch
Ah
wise rampart
Is it possible to use the GODump mod to dump a custom skin?
vocal spire
Yes
vocal spire
Just activate the skin then do all the normal godump steps
wise rampart
by using customknight?
vocal spire
Yes
cedar hemlock
but y tho
jolly oriole
inconvenience ig
copper nacelle
patent zealot
thanks
primal latch
so, I have a custom scene and got it to load. I have an object with a box collider. I am sure that the knight spawns above the collider. The player just falls through. Am I doing anything wrong?
It is also on layer 8
jolly oriole
the knight has to definetly spawn above the collider (maybe needs to be a 2d collider) with a maximum distance of 10
primal latch
ah. yes. I'm stupid. It was 3d
jolly oriole
idk if that affects it, i haven't checked the code that determines how far above the ground the player spawns at
primal latch
the knight has to definetly spawn above the collider (maybe needs to be a 2d col...
I'm spawning the player like 100 above and it's a 2d collider. Still no collision
'wait. The 2d collider is 0.000001
in both dimensions
jolly oriole
seems like a large block to hit
primal latch
thanks! I got it working
oblique swan
hey i was wondering if any one has ever made a dog custom knight skin
i want to make one but i was wondering if it has been done (i asume it has)
if its never been done itll be a good practice for animation
cedar hemlock
afaik not
oblique swan
no idea what that is
cedar hemlock
As Far As I Know
oblique swan
oh
patent zealot
So im using asset viewer and its not showing any numbers next to the room names
oblique swan
oh sup
light zodiac
Hover here and then drag right window to the left
dark wigeon
(Looking for the most recent version of AssetsTools? Please go to the full releases page which includes prereleases here.)
jolly oriole
o whoops, that's on me, linked him https://github.com/nesrak1/AssetsTools.NET/releases/latest, which is update 3 🥴
dark wigeon
it's really github's fault for doing this crap, it used to redirect to prereleases but they removed the option to make prereleases visible from the homepage entirely now
patent zealot
thanks
patent zealot
is there any hook for when a nail art is ready
copper nacelle
fsm
jolly oriole
newest update insta crash
copper nacelle
of the api?
copper nacelle
did they update the beta again
jolly oriole
yes
copper nacelle
is the crash with mods or is the new update just that good
jolly oriole
it's just that good
copper nacelle
amazing
jolly oriole
i was update -> play -> insta crash
copper nacelle
🥴
copper nacelle
rofl
jolly oriole
wait
primal latch
Damn. What went wrong? And how can they upload a broken build without noticing?
jolly oriole
i think steam doesn't verify game files before updating them, i had it update over the 1432 files lol
primal latch
Ah. That might be it
primal latch
Ooh. How do we know what changed?
primal latch
Nice
jolly oriole
idling at 940-950 when doing nothing
primal latch
Wow
This is the only change: macOS Apple Silicon native support removed. Some of our native plugins do not yet support it, which would result in Steam integration and controller issues. All platforms updated for version parity.
jolly oriole
if you still have the older beta assembly-csharp, could you send that to me? can look for undocumented code changes
primal latch
I have that. Give me a sec.
jolly oriole
things that changed:
- decomp variable names
- ints changed to enum values
this.target.OwnerOption == null->this.target.OwnerOption == OwnerDefaultOption.UseOwner- pd setter/getter changed to direct pd field assignment
primal latch
Does the last one impact modding?
jolly oriole
no, the mapi still has the preprocessor thing that does change it back to the setter/getter calls
copper nacelle
what setter/getter
copper nacelle
wait what
like
All of them?
like are the functions gone
cause that sounds pretty sick honestly
Performance wise
jolly oriole
the functions should be still there, because of the playmaker things
but let me check
jolly oriole
yes, in the one from before those were used in a lot of places for no reason
copper nacelle
amazing
jolly oriole
but apparently areatitlecontroller still uses getbool
copper nacelle
ruined
jolly oriole
copper nacelle
when is playmaker replacing their action system with a reflection emit based state machine
jolly oriole
maybe the .net4x version of it has that and the netstandard one doesn't
sly oak
I was wondering if anyone knows where the source code for the transtrans mod is? I searched all over github but couldn't find anything (I'm looking for a mod example of changing enemy sprites)
copper nacelle
in my projects folder
jolly oriole
56 once uploaded the cs file here though
56, why have you uploaded 7971 files to this server
vocal spire
lol
jolly oriole
found it
sly oak
yep just found it too, thanks 
jolly oriole
assetsview with the newest beta patch globalgamemanagers (tried to open the buildsettings)
dark wigeon
can't reproduce
o steam lied there is a new update
can't reproduce with latest hk beta
dark wigeon
assetsview with the newest beta patch globalgamemanagers (tried to open the buil...
the correct db version is exactly 2020.2.2f1 so it looks like you have an old classdata.tpk version
woah discord chill out
patent zealot
So i was trying to mess with Hive knight (godhome) and make him have his spike and bee attack from the start of the fight, tried messing with the phase check state and changing the values but im unsure of what im doing wrong, any help?
vestal latch
hey i was wondering if the new hit classic game garfield cart will be getting his part in the sanctuary mod
Im thinking a racing boss
copper nacelle
can you not
copper nacelle
So i was trying to mess with Hive knight (godhome) and make him have his spike a...
what are you swapping to/from
is it like hp < int2?
patent zealot
yeah
copper nacelle
Remove the compares and add a next frame event to p3 imo
patent zealot
How would I do that?
copper nacelle
RemoveAction
AddAction<NextFrameEvent>
And then there's some field you set
Or
patent zealot
oh alr
copper nacelle
You could change both transitions to the same state
Really all the same thing
Or remove the compares and make finished go to p3
Is probably the most reasonable approach
patent zealot
Alright, ill try that, thanks
copper nacelle
if that doesn't pan out ping me and I can actually try something myself
just lazy
patent zealot
I can't seem to find any AddActions with <>, do i have to reference something?
copper nacelle
AddAction(new T()) mb
vocal spire
Iirc modcommon and Vasi both that
brisk prism
Can you mod on ps4?
primal latch
so, I got a custom scene to load. But when trying to load a sprite renderer everything comes out pink. I know this is because of shader issues, but I don't know how to fix it
glossy olive
Outage, ain’t that neat
jolly oriole
god dammit discord
eternal crown
Can i have more info on usage of preloadedGO?
Name1.preloadedGO["entity_name";
I quiet don't get what should be on Name1 place. Is that some playmaker stuff?
jolly oriole
sorry about the messages
eternal crown
Goddamit
jolly oriole
in which part?
eternal crown
Discord dammit
light zodiac
Isn't that your main class name?
eternal crown
I was thinking so, but it seems it isn't
I was trying to preload entity to get particles for custom enemy
So, it is on main behaviour script
vocal spire
I was thinking so, but it seems it isn't
Can you show your mod class?
light zodiac
Why did that send 4 times lol
light zodiac
From Mod
eternal crown
class SpearInit : Mod
{
public SpearInit() : base("Name") { }
public override string GetVersion() => "0.0.1.2";
public static AssetBundle ab;
public override void Initialize()
{
Log("Initializing");
ModHooks.Instance.AfterSavegameLoadHook += LoadThing;
ab = null;
string bundleN = "spearbug";
System.Reflection.Assembly asm = System.Reflection.Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly();
foreach (string res in asm.GetManifestResourceNames())
{
using (System.IO.Stream s = asm.GetManifestResourceStream(res))
{
if (s == null) continue;
string bundleName = System.IO.Path.GetExtension(res).Substring(1);
if (bundleName != bundleN) continue;
Log("Loading bundle " + bundleName);
ab = AssetBundle.LoadFromStream(s);
}
}
}
private void LoadThing(SaveGameData data) => GameManager.instance.gameObject.AddComponent<LoadEnemy>();
}```
vocal spire
```CS
class SpearInit : Mod
{
public SpearInit() : base("Name") { }
...
You aren’t preloading anything?
vocal spire
```CS
class SpearInit : Mod
{
public SpearInit() : base("Name") { }
...
You aren’t preloading anything?
eternal crown
I preload only my unity asset
vocal spire
```CS
class SpearInit : Mod
{
public SpearInit() : base("Name") { }
...
You aren’t preloading anything?
Discord ded
lol
I wonder if it works now
jolly oriole
i see this
zealous basin
