#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 495

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Oh, ok

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What did it do?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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They would appear behind the skin names

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Ahhh

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I see

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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But they were crashing the game

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Oh

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That's unfortunate

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Any fix for this in CK2?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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You don’t select skins yet

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Oh?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Plus I can’t think of a fix, because no matter what, all the images would need to be loaded at once

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Then what does it do?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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It’s just one skin

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At a time

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Oh, ok

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Like the old CustomKnight

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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So you need to swap them in the folders?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Yeah

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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That means it'll load only one skin at a time, though, right?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Is there at least going to be enable/disable?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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?

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Switching between the chosen skin and Default

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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No

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I mean, I might be able to do that, but I might not want to do that

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Speaking of CK2, I should work on finishing the editor

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I’ll do it later

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modding on a slow pc where unity constantly crashes isn’t fun

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Woah, hold up

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editor?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Editing large json files isn’t fun so I’ve been making a program to do it instead

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I also probably need to display images of every frame and possibly animations when I’m finished with the functionality

jolly oriole Dec 20, 2020, 2:38 PM

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now i also got obj exporter working, so now i can create the meshes dynamically and also export those to refine them in blender

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 2:43 PM

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vocal spire Editing large json files isn’t fun so I’ve been making a program to do it instea...

Oh, so it won't be a part of CK2 then

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Unless?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:44 PM

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It will be a separate app that generates globalsettings for the mod

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 2:44 PM

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jolly oriole now i also got obj exporter working, so now i can create the meshes dynamically ...

Awesome! You gonna let other people use that for making levels?

jolly oriole Dec 20, 2020, 3:35 PM

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maybe

jolly oriole Dec 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

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vocal spire Awesome! You gonna let other people use that for making levels?

have fun

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

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?

jolly oriole Dec 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

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https://github.com/SFGrenade/ModdingHelper

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Yay

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Thanks

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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vocal spire Awesome! You gonna let other people use that for making levels?

Wait @jolly oriole you made a level editor tool?

jolly oriole Dec 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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no, i use unity to create scenes, which then just need to be loaded to be accessed, what i do is just to make some things easier

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Oh, alright

glass thorn Dec 20, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I've made the benchwarp hotkeys configurable now - anyone want to try it? Also, I figure it can't be included in the mainline version at least until the rando tourney ends, can it?

copper nacelle Dec 20, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I can try it

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If you want

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Sounds convenient

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 5:24 PM

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fiftysix is dying to try it out, don't believe their indifference

glass thorn Dec 20, 2020, 5:25 PM

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source at https://github.com/dpinela/HollowKnight.BenchwarpMod , under branch "hotkeys"

📎 Benchwarp.dll

GitHub

dpinela/HollowKnight.BenchwarpMod

Mod to adjust bench respawn location ingame. Contribute to dpinela/HollowKnight.BenchwarpMod development by creating an account on GitHub.

proven cipher Dec 20, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I will definitely be checking this out next time I play. Thank you for this. 😊

jolly oriole Dec 20, 2020, 8:08 PM

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unity crashes after compiling/importing my mod (after i added some monobehaviours) and i don't know how to fix that

📎 Editor.log

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Can someone explain this piece: ("SceneName1","Go/Path/Name/1") ?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:11 PM

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That’s part of preloading

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:11 PM

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In GetPreloadNames()

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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SceneName1 is the name of the scene you are preloading from

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Makes sense

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And the other?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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The 2nd string is the path to the object

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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How do I find it?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:13 PM

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So, for example: parent/child/child of child/child of child of child/target go

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:13 PM

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wh?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:13 PM

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To find it, I suggest using the scene dumps in the pins.

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:14 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/283467363729408000/327461802311155714/729794101259796480

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this?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Yeah

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Use the ggscenes from me for godhome

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Alright, i'll take a look at them

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All the gg is cuz Gods&Glory, right?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Yeah

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GG is the prefix for a lot of stuff from that update

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

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V = ascended?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

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No

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And yes

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

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second form

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?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:18 PM

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The file looks like it was printed with some script

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With all the END and START and formatting

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Though it would be madness to do all this by hand

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:19 PM

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So for example, you want a preload a object with a fsm(a boss for example), you take the scene name, then in the GameObject dump(or some other means) you find the object and it’s path(like what it’s a child of) ex: _SceneManager/Effects/BossName would give you: the child called BossName on the Effects object which is a child of SceneManager

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It would return null tho because I’m pretty sure there would never be a child of SceneManager in the first place

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Suppose I want to edit an enemy

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What would I need to get?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Depends

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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The FSM? The enemy as a whole? Something else?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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What are you adding, is it just in one instance of the enemy

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Are you adding the enemy to other rooms then editing it

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Hm

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Good question

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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What do you want to edit too

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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How are, for example, bosses usually modded?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Editing fsms

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And sometimes spritesheets

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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vocal spire What are you adding, is it just in one instance of the enemy

But only this one instance of them?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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And sometimes adding stuff from other bosses

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?

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Wait what did your question mean

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Do you want to edit every enemy like this enemy, or just this enemy

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Well
A godhome boss
Is only one instance
No?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:24 PM

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?

crimson trench Dec 20, 2020, 9:24 PM

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where is the link to the mod installer pls help

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:24 PM

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#archived-modding-help

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Pins and description of #archived-modding-help

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:25 PM

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jolly jungle Well A godhome boss Is only one instance No?

So you only want to edit it’s occurrence in godhome?

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Well, the boss is different in and outside, no?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:26 PM

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?

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Usually bosses are exactly the same in and out of godhome except for a couple states

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Oh, alright

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And those states won't cause problems?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Probably

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:27 PM

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So yes, I'll happily try to do all changes

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:27 PM

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vocal spire Probably

Probably will, or won't? zote

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:27 PM

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With bosses, it’s different because they are in a set bit of rooms

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Well only one way to know, test it

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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You never tried?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Well why would I

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I haven’t tested every boss

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Eh, fair point

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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It was my design choice to only occur in godhome

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Plus I prefer adding boss levers in godhome so I don’t outright replace the boss

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Oh, yeah, how would one do that

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Pale prince, and Uuwuu source?

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I got it from pale prince

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Also, suppose I turn off the mod while playing the game, will it just revert the boss/remove lever/whatever else you choose to do?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Depends on the coding

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Hm

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Anyhow

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Back to the practical stuff

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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So take a object from the scene dump that you want as a example for preloading

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Tell me the scene and screenshot the name of the object

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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I have a file open in front of me

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I just need to choose an aboject

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ogject

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Just choose any of them

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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object

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uh

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Just a example

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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but

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Will they be of any use to me?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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It’s a example

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I don't even know how to read this file

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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So yes and no depending on what you choose, but remember that it’s just a example

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I'm not sure what here is an object

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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So you see where every object begins

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Ok

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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and what is just... stuff, about it

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Screenshot something and I’ll explain

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I see multiple STARTs and ENDs

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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All of these are game objects and some have paths

📎 image0.png

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Oh come on

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Editing images on mobile not fun

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So the 2nd line under start is the object and it’s path

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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first line is just the script telling us stuff?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Yes

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None of these seem to have a path tho

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Uh

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Wdym

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Well they have a path, but their name is the only thing in the path as they have no parent

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Alright, makes sense

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How do I know what things I need for whatever I decide to do?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:37 PM

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So if you go down to where they start having \ in the path/name I’ll explain more

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Also there isn't a difference between Pantheon and Hall, right?

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When fighting a boss

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just making sure

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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No difference except a variable in game manager or Playerdata I think

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:39 PM

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vocal spire So if you go down to where they start having \ in the path/name I’ll explain mor...

is this what you mean?

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Yeah

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Copy that name

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Or copy the entire path

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The object door_dreamEnter is a child of Boss Scene Controller

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Now to use it in preloading, replace \ with /

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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this is what I'll want?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Yes but do the replace thing I said

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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and swap the \ with / of course

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Yeah

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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scene name is just the file name, right?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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So you see how \ or / separates the objects

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Yeah

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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mhm

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I see that now

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Yeah

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Problem is, how do I know what I want?

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Well, the dump shows you the components and some of the values of the components

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You can use that

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Also it completely prints all the fsm states and what actions are at what index

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:43 PM

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may I point out this is a 13k line file and I never used this before

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Ever heard of ctrl + f

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So you can find a object’s name in fsm viewer.

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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"fsm" appears on, well, a lot of lines

📎 unknown.png

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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vocal spire So you can find a object’s name in fsm viewer.

ohhh

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I see

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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You can find both the object and Fsm’s names

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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lemme open it up real quick

vocal spire Dec 20, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Gtg, gl

jolly jungle Dec 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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thanks

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Well I gtg too, anyways

carmine pivot Dec 21, 2020, 1:09 AM

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~~finite state machines everywhere~~

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 1:23 AM

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playmaker finite state machine vs non playmaker finite state machine who wins

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 4:52 PM

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@vocal spire it can't be as simple as that though

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610754780461006848/790621884420063302/image0.png

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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It is

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:29 PM

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is there a way to get a list of all the mods that have been loaded?

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 5:30 PM

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What does it help to receive copies if I want to change the gameobjects themselves

📎 unknown.png

jolly oriole Dec 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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ornate rivet is there a way to get a list of all the mods that have been loaded?

afaik last time something like this was asked, the solution was something with reflection, like getting all namespaces or something

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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hmm

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:32 PM

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jolly jungle What does it help to receive copies if I want to change the gameobjects themselv...

In that case, you could just wait till you get to the scene with the GO you want to change, and get and edit it there

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what is this

jolly oriole Dec 21, 2020, 5:33 PM

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something like modcommon or seanprcore wont be listed in that tho

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:33 PM

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that's fine

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why won't they be on that list though?

jolly oriole Dec 21, 2020, 5:34 PM

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because they don't have a class that derives from Mod or IMod

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 5:34 PM

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ornate rivet In that case, you could just wait till you get to the scene with the GO you want...

Wdym?

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I see

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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jolly jungle Wdym?

find the gameobject yourself and edit it

jolly oriole Dec 21, 2020, 5:36 PM

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or wait a sec, checking something

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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okie

jolly oriole Dec 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ok, confirmed that only mods with an actualy derived Mod class get added to that list

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 5:42 PM

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ornate rivet find the gameobject yourself and edit it

I don't understand

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This is all so confusing

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How did you all get started with this?

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:42 PM

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we didn't start with this, there was no guide before

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 5:43 PM

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jolly jungle I don't understand

GameObject.Find(string)

ornate rivet Dec 21, 2020, 5:43 PM

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the preloader the guide is talking about is for if you want to get a copy of a gameobject (GO). It does the work of going to the room the GO is in and getting it for you

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but if you want to edit a specific GO from a specific room, then you have to wait till the player goes to that room, use GameObject.Find as RedFrog said, and edit the GO

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Ah, I see nowww

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Thank you

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So do I do it inside this?

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vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Nah

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UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.ActiveSceneChanged I think

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:04 PM

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why not this?

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Eh nevermind

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I'll just try it, why the hell not

jolly oriole Dec 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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i use the UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.activeSceneChanged hook

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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is this correct?

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it created this for me

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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yes

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Cool

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Now I need to figure out how to use this

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can I throw away the throw

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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yes

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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vocal spire GameObject.Find(string)

alright can you specify this

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What do I pass in, and what does it give

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Generally

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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....you put in a string

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Like, I obviously pass in a string, but what is it

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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it returns a gameobject

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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The name of it?

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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vocal spire it returns a gameobject

alright, alright

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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my hands are frozen and ive had a really hard time typing

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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so, I put in the name of the gameobject, and it gives me back the actual gameobject?

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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yes

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but

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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oho?

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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this is where you should use a coroutine

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Ah

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Yes

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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to wait until it's not null

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I suggest attaching a monobehavior to the game manager and using (monobehavior instance).StartCoroutine(coroutine)

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Haven't touched one of those in a long time

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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vocal spire I suggest attaching a monobehavior to the game manager and using (monobehavior i...

attaching a monobehavior?

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Lemme think palehmm

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Hm

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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GameManager.Instance.AddComponent<MonoBehaviorThingIdkWhatYouWouldNameIt>();

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why did I press enter early

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Wait

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Where does GameManager come from?

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Oh god, I smell big chunk of code

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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example

private void OnSceneChange(Scene arg0, Scene arg1)
{
   var thingy = GameManager.Instance.AddComponent<MonoBehaviorThingIdkWhatYouWouldNameIt>();
   thingy.StartCoroutine(ThingThatDoesStuff);
}
private IEnumerator ThingThatDoesStuff()
{
   yield return new WaitWhile(() => !GameObject.Find(ThingythatIwanttoget));
   var thingyIwanttoget = GameObject.Find(ThingythatIwanttoget);
}

I think

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GameManager is a thing

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that does things

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its a component on the _GameManager object

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Wait

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var?

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I thought types matter

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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c sharp is cool stuff man

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inferred type I think

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Oh wow

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I like that

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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My spelling is probably all over the place sorry

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I suggest not adding the component on room change tho

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Oh?

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What, then?

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Wait, no

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Aren't we only finding it?

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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?

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wdym

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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nevermind, keep explaining zote

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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I'm talking about adding the component to the gamemanager

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here, let me change it up a bit

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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I'm lost, again

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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private void OnSceneChange(Scene arg0, Scene arg1)
{
   var thingy = GameManager.Instance.GetComponent<MonoBehaviorThingIdkWhatYouWouldNameIt>();
   if (!thingy)
      thingy = GameManager.Instance.AddComponent<MonoBehaviorThingIdkWhatYouWouldNameIt>();
   if (arg1.Name == "TheSceneWhere Stuff Happens")
      thingy.StartCoroutine(ThingThatDoesStuff);
}
private IEnumerator ThingThatDoesStuff()
{
   yield return new WaitWhile(() => !GameObject.Find(ThingythatIwanttoget));
   var thingyIwanttoget = GameObject.Find(ThingythatIwanttoget);
}

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Where does GameManager come from?

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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it is a component attached to the GameObject _GameManager

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you could also just do something like

var mygo = new GameObject("Name of the thing that makes stuff happen") 
// var mygo = new GameObject() also works
GameObject.DontDestroyOnLoad(mygo);
mygo.AddComponent<COMPONENTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT>();

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k ima go do something else now

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Aaaaand I'm back

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

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vocal spire it is a component attached to the GameObject _GameManager

I still don't get it palehmm

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My point is, do I need to do anything special to use it or does it exist simply thanks to whatever other things I use

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

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it exists because it's part of hk

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you don't specifically need gamemanager because of the 2nd method I showed you where you create a new gameobject and attach your monobehavior to that instead

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Ah, alright

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I still don't get your actual code

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// var mygo = new GameObject() also works```

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what's the difference?

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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one makes a object with the string as it's name

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the other uses New GameObject as the name I think

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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So mygo stores inside it a GameObject called "whatever we put in here"?

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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yes

jolly jungle Dec 21, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Oh hell yeah

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I understand something

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And then what component do you add to it here?

mygo.AddComponent<COMPONENTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT>();

vocal spire Dec 21, 2020, 7:15 PM

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a monobehavior that you make

jolly oriole Dec 21, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Unity Problem: when i update the DLL, unity compiles the scripts, after compilation the editor just closes and i don't know why.
What i do know is that the changed code is actually compiled, because after reopening the project everything works as it should.
Editor.log: https://hastebin.com/lokapikudo.makefile

jolly oriole Dec 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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fixed the editor crashing

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made a second project with the same assembly name as the first, but it only has just the monobehaviours, even without function bodies

jolly oriole Dec 22, 2020, 2:22 AM

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<#archived-modding-development message> how the fuck did i manage to do this again

vocal spire Dec 22, 2020, 2:32 AM

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?

jolly oriole Dec 22, 2020, 2:40 AM

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nvm, figured it out

copper nacelle Dec 22, 2020, 9:59 AM

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what bro

floral furnace Dec 22, 2020, 9:59 AM

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uhuh

jolly oriole Dec 22, 2020, 12:14 PM

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ig this was another helpfull development message?

ornate hornet Dec 22, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Who do I have to bribe to get the HowwowKnyight mod into the mods drive ?

vocal spire Dec 22, 2020, 1:16 PM

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If someone is putting that in, put frogcore in too plz https://drive.google.com/file/d/19A1-vBe25g9ETqS-XkQnEMj7YVleCBp_/view?usp=sharing

Google Docs

FrogCore.dll

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 2:19 AM

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both of you gimme your emails

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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bro why are you monocling me

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adding stuff to the drive myself is so much effort

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this is future proof

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really though the drive isn't super necessary at this point

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Because of modlinks.xml

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

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K

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So should we just put it in the drive ourselves?

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

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yeah

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Ok

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Do we need to edit the installer to put it on there?

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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yeah pr modlinks.xml

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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K

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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there are some instructions at the top

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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since I'm adding frogcore, I might as well do the uuwuu update too

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 4:01 AM

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k did a pr for uuwuu and frogcore

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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how do I fix FrogCore constantly needing to update?

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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that means you put in the wrong shasum

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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shasum?

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sha1?

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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yes

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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how do I get the right one

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I searched up a sha1 generator and generated one from the name FrogCore.dll

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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bruh

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you need the file hash not the hash of the name

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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well ill remember this

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ill use the excuse of I am tired

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ok I think I have it now

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created another pr

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this time it should have the right hashes for uuwuu and frogcore

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 5:41 AM

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hey so im interested in learning to make mods but I have no clue where to even begin can anyone point me in the right direction 😅

floral furnace Dec 23, 2020, 5:43 AM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 5:48 AM

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tyvm

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:36 AM

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grave basin hey so im interested in learning to make mods but I have no clue where to even b...

Welcome to my world
If you figure out a way to understand things faster tell me please

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And good luck

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 7:37 AM

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lol ty

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Do you already happen to have background in anything like this?

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 7:38 AM

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I have experience writing code and I've made small mods for other games before so I have a bit of a head start in that department but t_shrug

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I've never published anything I've made, just small QoL changes or funny things for myself

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:39 AM

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What kind of mods are you planning to make here?

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 7:39 AM

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No idea. something fun. My one meme idea is to spite a certain someone who made a photoshopped multi-grimmchild by replacing 4 charms with more grimmchilds

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giggle

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Wait
Explain

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You mean, actually turning the charms into Grimmchildren?

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 7:41 AM

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someone sent a photoshopped image where they had like five grimmchilds

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so I want to do that

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:41 AM

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And then, the more you have, the more heads?

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Wait

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OH

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Just multiple grimmchildren

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 7:41 AM

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the more you have the more grimmchilds giggle

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ye

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:42 AM

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I thought for a sec you want to have one grimmchild
With multiple heads

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 7:42 AM

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nah

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I mean my image editing skills are sorta okay but that just sounds like it'd be a pain in the ass to make look good, if it was even possible which IDK

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Oh, it probably is

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You'd only need to separate the head, and get each head to float around the main head or something, and for all heads to function independently

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What charms will you sacrifice for these grimmchildren?

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 7:44 AM

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probably the four-dots

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and then...

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dreamshield
cos it's ass, fight me

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Change all charms except for heavy blow

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 7:46 AM

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nah then I'd have to give up unbreakable strength

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ooh possibly make something that gives buffs to the 4-notch-bois while still retaining their original ideas I.E. Deep Focus no longer slows your heals down, Hiveblood delay is halved and regenerates back up to full no matter your damage, Soul Eater is removed from the game, stuff like that

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something that makes them worth using 4 notches on

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 8:50 AM

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regenerates back up to full no matter your damage
Not at once, of course
Like, one after another

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Soul Eater is removed from the game
We should find a replacement to it, then

proven cipher Dec 23, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Soul Eater regenerates soul whenever you get a spell hit

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Make it give like 17 Soul so that if you double with a VS you get a full refund.

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Maybe it would need to change port spell because that would also let you just press Abyss Shriek over and over

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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grave basin No idea. something fun. My one meme idea is to spite a certain someone who made ...

Why replace charms when you can add them

jolly oriole Dec 23, 2020, 3:18 PM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/SFCore.html

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 3:27 PM

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#archived-modding-help

summer moat Dec 23, 2020, 3:27 PM

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sorry

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 3:39 PM

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vocal spire Why replace charms when you can *add* them

Cuz we don't need heavy blow, quickslash, shaman stone, MoP, or unbreakable strength
They're all useless

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 3:39 PM

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uh huh

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Alright, I might use heavy blow now and then
but the others are trash

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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does it make me trash if I use all of the above

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Nah, it makes you a pro player

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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K

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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They're such bad charms that using them is detrimental

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:28 PM

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vocal spire you could also just do something like ```csharp var mygo = new GameObject("Name...

this is an alternative to the entire code chunk right above it?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Not the entire thing

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Hm

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Can you explain in english what basically needs to be done?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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You need to start a coroutine to wait until the object you are looking for isn’t null

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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It seems like I need to find the boss component upon entering and attach a monobehaviour

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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You don’t have to do that. I suggest it tho

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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but I might be missing something cuz what you wrote seems longer in there

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Alright so what's the coroutine for?

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Oh I see

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So when I enter, start a coroutine that waits for the object to be acquired, then attach a monobehaviour that alters it as I wish

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yes?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:32 PM

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omg I actually figured something out

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:32 PM

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But, you need a monobehavior to do that coroutine

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Wait what

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Look at lost lord again

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It has the LostLord class which is the mod class

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It has the KinFinder class which is a monobehavior

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Then it also has the Kin class which is also a monobehavior

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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this one?

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Alright

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So what does each of the three you said do

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Look at where it adds the Kin and KinFinder components

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:34 PM

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the first one?

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:34 PM

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First one

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See where the hook is?

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:35 PM

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The second appears to be a verification of sorts, what is it for?

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:35 PM

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vocal spire See where the hook is?

lemme just

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:35 PM

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jolly jungle The second appears to be a verification of sorts, what is it for?

On Unload it will destroy the component

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:35 PM

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this?

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:36 PM

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It is also called in the after save game load hook

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:36 PM

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vocal spire On Unload it will destroy the component

Wait what does Unload do?
it's a part of the toggling thing, so is it when you disable a mod?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:37 PM

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vocal spire It is also called in the after save game load hook

this?

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:37 PM

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In game disable and enable

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Yes

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Alright

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:37 PM

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So see how AddComponent is called on making a new save and loading a save

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Yep

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:38 PM

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And how it’s adding it to the game manager?

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:38 PM

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so, to what is the KinFinder added?

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Oh yeah

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Alright

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:38 PM

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You could replace adding that to the game manager with the new GameObject code I gave you

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:39 PM

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vocal spire But, you need a monobehavior to do that coroutine

So here you were referring to something like KinFinder?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:39 PM

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And instead of destroying the component in unload, you’d destroy the GameObject

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Yes

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Look in KinFinder

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:39 PM

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vocal spire You could replace adding that to the game manager with the new GameObject code I...

Ah, I see

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:39 PM

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vocal spire Look in KinFinder

Yeah, I saw, just didn't want to copy the code in here

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but

#

    {
        private void Start()
        {
            USceneManager.activeSceneChanged += SceneChanged;
        }

        private void SceneChanged(Scene arg0, Scene arg1)
        {
            if (arg1.name != "GG_Lost_Kin") return;

            StartCoroutine(AddComponent());
        }

        private static IEnumerator AddComponent()
        {
            yield return null;

            GameObject.Find("Lost Kin").AddComponent<Kin>();
        }

        private void OnDestroy()
        {
            USceneManager.activeSceneChanged -= SceneChanged;
        }
    }```

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screw it

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Hm

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Is internal like private?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:40 PM

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See how it starts a coroutine that adds the component

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Internal is public but only things in this assembly can access tmk

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Ah, alright

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tmk?

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Anyways

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:41 PM

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jolly jungle tmk?

To my knowledge

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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On start (loading a game/new save file, because of the code in LostLord) adds a hook for scene change, when it's called checks for the scene - in this case, Godhome's Lost Kin - and starts the AddComponent() coroutine. AddComponent does yield return null which I'll be honest I don't remember how yield works but I remember it waits for something or another

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Yeah

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I think it waits for a frame but I’m probably wrong

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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GameObject.Find() only searches within the current scene, right? It can't find outside of it

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Yeah I think

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Would be weird otherwise

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Anyways, what's the Kin component that's added?

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Oh found it

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Look inside and find out

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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It's the cs file there

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I wasn't sure if it's the mod's file or something else

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nevermind

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So that's the fsm's code?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:48 PM

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It’s what edits the fsm

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I...

📎 unknown.png

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:48 PM

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vocal spire It’s what edits the fsm

Edits or replaces?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Edit

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Alright, alright, nice

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I mean, you could remake every attack

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Do I need to do anything special to open a monobehaviour?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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?

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Or is this enough

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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public class AAAAAAA :MonoBehavior

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Yeah

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Public or internal works

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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~~thought so~~ hoped so

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Alright

#

So with this conversation, I think I'm ready to take my mod one step further in complexity while still doing nothing other than taking up space in the top left corner of the menu

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Thanks

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Does the FSM-editing component need to have some specific name?

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 7:24 PM

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no

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Alright, thanks

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I should do this in Unload, right?

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 7:28 PM

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if you want to have it be properly toggleable yeah

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 7:28 PM

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👌

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What does Lost Lord's SetupSettings() do? Defined on line 85, called in AddComponent()

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 8:01 PM

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creates the global settings file if it doesn't exist

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Hm

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Do I myself need to care about it in any way?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Pretty sure you can also call it in initialize

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You don’t need to care about it if you aren’t using globalsettings

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:07 PM

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palehmm

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pretty sure I'm not

grave basin Dec 23, 2020, 9:11 PM

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vocal spire Why replace charms when you can *add* them

oh I wasn't aware that was possible - I havent seen any other mods do it and some very strange things appear to be hardcoded in the game itself so I was working from the idea that it wasn't possible

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Meet SFCore by SFGrenade. Cool thing. Lets you add all sorts of stuff

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:13 PM

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arg0 is where you came from and arg1 is where you entered?

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Thanks

#

Time to open one of the many things that can give me the scene name

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I can already guess it, knowing the format, but
we need to make sure

jolly oriole Dec 23, 2020, 9:15 PM

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vocal spire Meet SFCore by SFGrenade. Cool thing. Lets you add all sorts of stuff

can confirm

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:28 PM

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private HealthManager _hm;
HealthManager is HK-specific, right? It's just something defined for whatever reason for this game

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More importantly, when is Awake() called? Upon starting? Sometime around it? Some other time entirely?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Unity’s definition: when the script instance is loaded

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:30 PM

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jolly jungle > ```private HealthManager _hm;``` `HealthManager` is HK-specific, right? It's j...

Healthmanager is how health is stored in hk

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Thought so, thanks

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:31 PM

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It can be set to invincible, you can set a certain angle invincible, and more

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:31 PM

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private InfectedEnemyEffects _enemyEffects;
Same idea for this, too, right?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:32 PM

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vocal spire It can be set to invincible, you can set a certain angle invincible, and more

Wait what palehmm
A certain angle? As in, direction of incoming attack?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yes

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:33 PM

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jolly jungle > ```private InfectedEnemyEffects _enemyEffects;``` Same idea for this, too, rig...

I have a extension method in frog core’s journal helper that uses reflection to set the journal entries on these

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Should I make a page for the ApiDocs about adding journal entries?

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Sure

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How does that have to do with infection particle effects?

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Unless I misunderstood what that is

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:35 PM

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The class EnemyDeathEffects contains the code for granting journal entries

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I misunderstood what you said

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I thought you said InfectedEnemyDeathEffects

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Ah, I see

#

Anyhow

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I just need to log some stuff and then I think I have the basic structure of the thing done

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Then comes the hard part

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Of addin actual content

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:37 PM

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What are you planning

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Not much

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Just some Hive Knight buffs

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:38 PM

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K

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:38 PM

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You?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:38 PM

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stealing lifeblood master

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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?

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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jolly jungle You?

Uploading source code to a private repo

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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What's that

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Hive knight mod I made

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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lifeblood master

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ah

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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lol

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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wait it's called lifeblood master

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oh no

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I don't like that

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you're too close to my idea right now

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:39 PM

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At the time I couldn’t think of anything better

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Does it actually involve lifeblood though? palehmm

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Nah

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:40 PM

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zote

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Was too dumb at the time

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Anyhow

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The real question

#

Is this

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:40 PM

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I was planning to remake it in a large expansion I was making

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:40 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Dec 23, 2020, 9:41 PM

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What?

jolly jungle Dec 23, 2020, 9:41 PM

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no

#

back to doing stuff

copper nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 9:50 PM

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// no

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it's pretty simple

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 1:14 AM

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wow

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@safe hamlet

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🥒

safe hamlet Dec 24, 2020, 1:14 AM

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wtf

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i can't dm you

#

echprime

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 1:15 AM

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why not?

safe hamlet Dec 24, 2020, 1:15 AM

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not friended

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 1:15 AM

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I guess I'll never join back 🥺

floral furnace Dec 24, 2020, 1:19 AM

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yo 56 we got a pleading emoji here

grave basin Dec 24, 2020, 1:33 AM

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yoooo guess who's making mods

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Me

grave basin Dec 24, 2020, 1:33 AM

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well yes but also me

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 1:33 AM

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What happened here?

grave basin Dec 24, 2020, 1:35 AM

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If I've done this right and I probably havent but if I have, baldur shell should have a 25% chance of restoring one hit of durability per kill

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survey says I have not

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but the other thing worked correctly

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so I guess that wins

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t_shrug

quick nimbus Dec 24, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Is anyone here? Out of curiosity, how are mods created? Can we modify legacy code? What language do we work in?

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Is this C#? Looks like Java and Golang combined

floral furnace Dec 24, 2020, 6:57 AM

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C# yeah

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basically you create a dll and the modding API loads it into the game when you start it

#

https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html

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heres a good place to start if youre interested in making mods

quick nimbus Dec 24, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Thanks. If I were specifically interested in the multiplayer mod, do I have to do something easier first or can I jump right in

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And is the code for mods public on Github?

floral furnace Dec 24, 2020, 7:06 AM

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most of the mods are open source

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id suggest you do something easier just get your bearings

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but if you already know your shit then you can probably quickly transition into the multiplayer mod if you think you can handle it

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i dont have the link to the multiplayer atm

quick nimbus Dec 24, 2020, 7:09 AM

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I haven't made a mod in a game before nor have I worked in C# before so it'll be a learning experience. But yeah, I have a fair bit of experience programming.

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I'll try something easier first, I guess.

floral furnace Dec 24, 2020, 7:13 AM

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if you know Java already most likely youre gonna have a very smooth transition to C#

#

syntactically theyre super similar

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BUT you will need to understand Unity concepts such as implementing MonoBehaviours

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HellMod is probably your best option of understanding how to make a simple mod and its on github

quick nimbus Dec 24, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Oh, thanks. Link please

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Nvm got it. Thanks a lot!

floral furnace Dec 24, 2020, 7:22 AM

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yeah, the video tutorial in the 2nd section of the apidocs should guide you relatively straightforward, 56's provides the basic modding tutorial whereas saleh handles stuff like adding scenes and what not

quick nimbus Dec 24, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Oh no, no autofill 😦

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Nvm there is autofill. Sweet! I'll probably get to work on this tomorrow. Thanks @floral furnace

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 7:25 AM

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grave basin If I've done this right and I probably havent but if I have, baldur shell should...

Eyyyy nice

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Can I join your surveys?
That just means playtest right?

grave basin Dec 24, 2020, 7:47 AM

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"survey says" is a jokey way of saying "I tried it and"

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 12:32 PM

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what makes white defender laugh? I kill his AudioSource but he still keeps making noise.

jolly oriole Dec 24, 2020, 12:34 PM

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do you happen to know when he laughs?

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 12:36 PM

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You can never kill the laughter of the jolly Wit Depender

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 12:37 PM

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when he is stunned

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ok found the Voice Player event

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thanks not sure why I didn't look there

jolly oriole Dec 24, 2020, 12:39 PM

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FSM Dung Defender
State Stun In Air has an AudioPlayerOneShot (idk if those contain laughs, but they appear to be)

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 12:39 PM

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yea

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I'll copy paste the fade audio event into an earilier state so it happens earlier

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yay it worked thank you

jolly oriole Dec 24, 2020, 12:52 PM

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np

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 1:31 PM

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What do you need to stop the laughter for?

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 1:32 PM

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grave basin "survey says" is a jokey way of saying "I tried it and"

So I can't playtest? beesive

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 2:10 PM

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for pale court

jolly oriole Dec 24, 2020, 3:11 PM

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As if that's ever going to be finished lmao

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 3:13 PM

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lol

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 3:15 PM

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soulpensive

grave basin Dec 24, 2020, 3:22 PM

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jolly jungle So I can't playtest? <:beesive:602844658443485196>

I literally just started my mods are tiny

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Same

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I have roughly a week more than you in this

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And it seems like you already did more than I did

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So just

o7

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Alright I have no idea what I'm doing wrong

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There's some problem in the coroutine to add the altering code/the altering code itself

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Wait I might have found it

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The coroutine is meant to wait one frame, run once, and end, correct?

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Aight I have no idea what's wrong

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It seems to still... not not-work, yet

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But there's definitely an error message at the top left corner and in the logs

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... FAILED TO LOAD! Check ModLog.txt.

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Alright

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So far, the mod doesn't not-work

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All it's supposed to do it change the boss's hp

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but for some reason

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There's still the error message and error logs

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Which I have a bad feeling aren't good

jolly oriole Dec 24, 2020, 8:16 PM

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send them here

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even tho it's christmas i can take a look at them

copper nacelle Dec 24, 2020, 8:18 PM

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shit time zone

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 8:40 PM

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[ERROR]:[API] -   at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.MonoCustomAttrs:GetCustomAttributesInternal (System.Reflection.ICustomAttributeProvider,System.Type,bool)
[ERROR]:[API] -   at System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetCustomAttributesBase (ICustomAttributeProvider obj, System.Type attributeType) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
[ERROR]:[API] -   at System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetCustomAttributes (ICustomAttributeProvider obj, System.Type attributeType, Boolean inherit) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
[ERROR]:[API] -   at System.Reflection.MonoMethod.GetCustomAttributes (System.Type attributeType, Boolean inherit) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
[ERROR]:[API] -   at Modding.ModLoader+<LoadMods>d__9.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ```

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The mod works perfectly

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but there's still error logs and the "cant load" message in the topleft

copper nacelle Dec 24, 2020, 8:41 PM

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incredibly interesting

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what are you marking with IteratorStateMachine

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Ah
Glad you asked
I have no idea

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This happens only when I have the coroutine defined

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you disable this piece of code, and while the mod - obviously - doesn't function, no errors of any kinds

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Dec 24, 2020, 8:59 PM

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what framework are you compiling for

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 8:59 PM

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You need to do 3.5

jolly oriole Dec 24, 2020, 9:00 PM

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you need to compile against .net framework 3.5

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:00 PM

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jolly oriole even tho it's christmas i can take a look at them

Not Christmas for me yet

jolly oriole Dec 24, 2020, 9:01 PM

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.runtime.compilerservices.iteratorstatemachineattribute?view=net-5.0#applies-to

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:12 PM

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aight, I'll take a look at this later

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in the meantime, I wanted to know

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How does something like Stunning a boss work?

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The time-out part of it

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Stunning is a fsm

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Yeah, I know that part

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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There is a method on game manager called FrezeMoment I think

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Hm

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Also what framework are you doing?

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Lemme pull up the fsms quick

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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vocal spire Also what framework are you doing?

Not sure, maybe 4.0?

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:14 PM

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As we said earlier, you need to do 3.5

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:14 PM

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As I said earlier, I'll take a look at it later

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:14 PM

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As I said now ok

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:15 PM

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oh

ok

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Why does it care for charm 15? Is that Heavy Blow -> Reduces hits for stun?

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Pretty sure

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Alright

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Anyways

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Yep heavy blow is 15

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:17 PM

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So what I want is some timed event where the countdown to it resets upon being hit

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Hm

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:17 PM

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?

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Oh god this is gonna be complicated

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Should I draw the way I want this to work before I try to code it?

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Seems like a good idea

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:18 PM

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?

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Hm

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Why did I choose this boss

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Oh god

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:19 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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What exactly are you trying to do

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Different idea

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Let's start

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By modifying one of the existing attacks

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:20 PM

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K

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Suppose I want to summon the honey spike projectiles

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 9:21 PM

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It’s just a simple send event if I remember correctly

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Mhm, alright

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Lemme take a look

fair rampart Dec 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Hi guys, Is there a way to mod Hollow Knight? I checked the video made by Relyea on how to mod it, but I can't find the bot that sends it

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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You mean use mods?

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Or create mods?

fair rampart Dec 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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jolly jungle You mean use mods?

yeah

fair rampart Dec 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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jolly jungle Or create mods?

first one

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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#archived-modding-help, read pins

fair rampart Dec 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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jolly jungle <#462200562620825600>, read pins

ok, thanks

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:25 PM

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no problem

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 9:30 PM

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vocal spire It’s just a simple send event if I remember correctly

I find the send for FIRE but I can't find where the globs are created in the first place

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Battle Scene\Globs\Hive Knight Glob\Stingers
These are the spikes?

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Ah, no, that's all eight of them

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So its children are the spikes

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Now, how do I
plagiarise them

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palehmm

jolly jungle Dec 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Aight, I don't have much to base my code off
So I believe this is not the best way to do it, if even possible
But
Is it possible to do it similarly to Lost Kin/Lord's infection projectiles?
Still trying to figure out how to find them

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Well anyways I gtg

grave basin Dec 24, 2020, 10:46 PM

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im currently trying to make a mod that adds five more copies of grimmchild into the game that each spawn their own grimmchild and I am quickly discovering exactly how not-simple that is

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Why am I doing this? to dunk on someone. Will it be worth it? No. Am I gonna do it anyway to see what I can learn from it? Yes.

ornate rivet Dec 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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why not just have the 1 charm make 5 grimmchildren

jolly oriole Dec 24, 2020, 11:24 PM

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grimmdergarten

grave basin Dec 24, 2020, 11:26 PM

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The screenshot I'm mimicking shows 6 grimmchild charms

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it's a photoshopped meme but i want to make it a real thing

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that's my backup plan tho

vocal spire Dec 24, 2020, 11:59 PM

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@grave basin you might want to look at the dreamshield coop mod in Dnspy(I based the grimmchild part off CustomKnight. It was my first mod, the coding is terrible) and jngo’s CustomKnight code on GitHub. The thing with the way I did it makes only one grimmchild appear though. I think you need to change the tag on it after instantiating so it doesn’t bug

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Gtg

grave basin Dec 25, 2020, 12:00 AM

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neat ty

granite kestrel Dec 25, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Guys do you know the more save mod is conflict with debug mod

gilded lotus Dec 25, 2020, 1:35 AM

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yes

granite kestrel Dec 25, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Why

proven cipher Dec 25, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Because More Saves is a bit broken.

jolly jungle Dec 25, 2020, 10:36 AM

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"A bit"

jolly jungle Dec 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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grave basin The screenshot I'm mimicking shows 6 grimmchild charms

Wait, isn't it possible to just replace the code of five other charms with Grimmchild's or does the charm work in a way that, well, doesn't allow it?

vocal spire Dec 25, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@jolly jungle you need to replace every instance of the original charm being used. It’s better to add completely new charms

jolly oriole Dec 25, 2020, 5:42 PM

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may be easier than that, as charms are loaded exactly once (after startup, on the menu screen)

vocal spire Dec 25, 2020, 6:41 PM

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jolly oriole may be easier than that, as charms are loaded exactly once (after startup, on th...

I meant replacing every instance of the charm’s effects(ex: removing nail length from long nail)

grave basin Dec 25, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Actually I found a better solution that's more in line with the original meme

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It actually came from an error in the code from the custom charms version

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whenever something tries to mark grimmchild as equipped undo that

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you put the grimmchild on by selecting it in the inventory and take it off by selecting it in the equipped bar

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If that ends up breaking something it doesnt matter because this mod is literally just a meme that I'm going to use once and then throw away OMEGALUL

grave basin Dec 25, 2020, 11:44 PM

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and then spawn in a bunch of grimmchilds

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Alright and that's not how the game handles charms and that gets it stuck in an infinite loop and crashes the game.

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See this is why I do these dumb projects - I'm learning a lot through experience

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 12:08 AM

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OOP NEVERMIND

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the right answer was to override the check with a "return false"

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https://gyazo.com/243901caaeae99cd18b841962ea1d8be

Gyazo

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Now all that's left is to find a way to spawn in that many grimmchildren without relying on equippedCharm_40

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side note if you close and re-open the menu, the fact that the game doesnt think these are equipped leads to a very strange thing where unequipping them essentially adds two temporary invisible charm notches that last until you close and re-open the menu again

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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after looking at it, for the grimmdergarten to work, you could add a bunch of custom charms, set a string value to that new boolname (Charm Effects - Spawn Grimmchild FSM -> Check State -> PlayerDataBoolTest action -> boolName string)
and you can add custom stuff to the custom grimmchild in the Idle state of the same FSM

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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ye

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that was the plan but then I got a better idea giggle

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I still have the other idea saved tho so if I go for that...

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in any case I appreciate it

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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pretty sure grenade's idea doesn't risk "killing" saves, but whatever your intention for the mod is

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Then again equipping custom charms, not taking them off, then disabling the mod can be bad for saves too

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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i forgot to mention that you'd have to copy the Spawn Grimmchild FSM onto a Charm Effects GO as many times as you want grimmchildren

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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actually from having accidentally done that it's not too bad it just turns into a no-effect grayed out version of dashmaster and you unequip it

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And yes that's true

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that was the plan

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But in any case im not too concerned about the save killing thing bc this is a throwaway gag on a fresh save file

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More to learn about the edge cases that are hard to study in a document

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"what will I learn if I break as much as I can in this specific way"

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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true

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Gravity Knight and Random Knight mods

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anyway, trying to get the playmaker editor working with the utiny ripper dumped hk isn't going too well

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also it's on my new pc

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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rip

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I'm resorting to commenting out code that doesn't work and hoping it isn't used anywhere

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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been there

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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the only stuff I had to do it to so far was obsolete tho

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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"look if this breaks something I can undo the comment"

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 12:32 AM

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ok I think I fixed everything

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more errors out of nowhere

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 12:35 AM

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https://gyazo.com/dcc7410ba5f773d4bcff7df761a1e48d programming.png

Gyazo

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 12:36 AM

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lol

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 12:38 AM

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modding is fun because I like programming but the thought of slaving away churning out code for some corporation makes me want to commit quirrel

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 12:38 AM

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F

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 12:59 AM

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new idea: throw away 50% of my first idea, use new idea that will probably take another at least 1/2 hour of my life

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:02 AM

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programming

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:02 AM

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new ideas are great, that's how TestOfTeamwork was created lol

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:02 AM

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lol

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new ideas scrapped my white palace addition tho

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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... and easy custom charms, achievements, items (sorta) and some other stuff

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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good point

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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easy custom charms
you're speaking in relative terms, right?

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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?

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custom charms are like one of the easiest things to add

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:04 AM

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valid I'm just having trouble making the charm show up

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:05 AM

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it has no sprite?

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:05 AM

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well it had no sprite and then I realized I gave it the wrong path and now its sprite is the default tiny-question-mark box

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:06 AM

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still really easy to add them

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:06 AM

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ye

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:06 AM

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can you show the code you use to load the image?

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:07 AM

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not rn I closed it for now

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lemme pull it up actually

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:07 AM

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just @ me when you do

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:08 AM

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btw who likes the idea of making a mod from a json file except you can edit the json file with a program to make it 100x less confusing

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:08 AM

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that takes all the fun out

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:09 AM

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customknight+?

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:09 AM

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it's meant for people who don't actually make mods

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same idea

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not the same thing tho

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I should really finish that tho

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:09 AM

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jolly oriole can you show the code you use to load the image?

https://gyazo.com/bc4515d291608a0ebe5557974f002c91 excuse the disgusting library name I typed the name in the wrong field

Gyazo

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copy-pasted from the tutorial thing cos I lack originality OMEGALUL

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:09 AM

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lol

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there's a way to do a foreach with that but I gtg

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:10 AM

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oh nono there's only one sprite

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it's just grimmchild 5 times

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:10 AM

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just saying for multiple charms

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:10 AM

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ye

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:11 AM

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you could also probably get the grimmchild charm sprite from the charm icon list

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:11 AM

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you would think that

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but

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:11 AM

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grave basin https://gyazo.com/bc4515d291608a0ebe5557974f002c91 excuse the disgusting library...

that should work, idk why it would show up as a default thing

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wait no

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:11 AM

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as it happens, the way that the game handles the grimmchild charm in particular makes that painful and asinine to do to the point where I just fucking gave up

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:11 AM

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is fammchild the sprite of the charm or grimmchild

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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gtg

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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charm sprite

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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then idk why it doesn't work

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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IDK either

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wait

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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what's the code for replacing or adding charms

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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wait

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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maybe something related in Modlog.txt or output_log.txt

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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I just had an idea

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:13 AM

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jolly oriole maybe something related in `Modlog.txt` or `output_log.txt`

land of null reference exceptions

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:13 AM

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TRU

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I actually gtg now

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:13 AM

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bb

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:13 AM

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have fun and thx for the help

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https://gyazo.com/cb871ef28c4389c58de3d69525658940

Gyazo

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for reference

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also the idea I had didnt work out

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https://gyazo.com/83719ec1811add1e498af77b35d64dd6

Gyazo

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I think this might be indicative of a problem

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:21 AM

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uh, let me test that

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it may be an issue of the png having problems with checksums and stuff, but idk

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:21 AM

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?

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let me test that?

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:22 AM

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can you DM me the image that you use for the sprite?

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:26 AM

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sent

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:29 AM

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... just to be sure, you have gone into the properties of the image withing visual studio and set the build thing to "embedded resource"?

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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yes. I tried other things but they just went back to blank image so I figured that wasnt the issue

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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ok

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trying in a bit

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there definetly is something wrong with your image, yours is the tiny question mark, the other grimmchild i loaded your image in paint.net and just saved it again.

📎 unknown.png

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:35 AM

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kk I'll do the same

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:35 AM

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no need

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:36 AM

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too late

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https://gyazo.com/2aca87682e40f14d658ab2625bae5e9d

Gyazo

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ah gottem ggs

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:38 AM

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pog

high iron Dec 26, 2020, 1:38 AM

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oh jesus

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i aint complaining but thats gonna be a cute overload

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:38 AM

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giggle

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Now time for the easy part

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making the charm actually do something

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wait did I say easy

high iron Dec 26, 2020, 1:39 AM

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i pity your head, from the desk slamming that must come forth.

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:39 AM

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isn't too difficult

high iron Dec 26, 2020, 1:40 AM

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i wouldnt know, i can barely program basic flags in python

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I know it's not too difficult now I just need to learn how to bridge the gap between flowchart and code

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:42 AM

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i'm actually kinda stuck, cause idk how to put an existing fsm onto a gameobject in code easily

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so i'll let you figure that out :) have fun

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:43 AM

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giggle

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My solution might genuinely be to make an identical copy of the fsm and stick each one on a separate gameobject

safe hamlet Dec 26, 2020, 1:45 AM

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weeb

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:45 AM

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?

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:48 AM

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safe hamlet weeb

wat

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:50 AM

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@jolly oriole would cloning the Fsm on the PlayMakerFSM component then setting it on the new one with reflection work?

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:51 AM

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i tried to look for a something that doesn't involve reflection, but it's probably the only way to do that

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:51 AM

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reflection

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:52 AM

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~~reflection is definitely simple enough for a first mod~~

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Should actually be really simple tho

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:52 AM

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oh fuck yes

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This is my fucking jam

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:52 AM

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http://answers.unity.com/answers/589400/view.html

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:52 AM

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the first thing I do dives deep headfirst into something I have barely dipped my toe into

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:53 AM

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That also works

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:53 AM

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oh shit thats neat

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:53 AM

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But wouldn’t editing the fsm edit both at that point(not sure if it’s required) since both components reference the same Fsm?

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:53 AM

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The FSM has a check for if the child has already been spawned in and cancels if it has so I assume so

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 1:54 AM

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that's to test

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:54 AM

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unless I modify it so it's like weaversong in that it only goes for a certain number

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and then set the target number based on the number of grimmchild charms equipped

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:54 AM

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It might be as simple as editing one value

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Yeah

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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https://gyazo.com/4b645c4d957a267a218bd26bac2d8ddc

Gyazo

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which value

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OMEGALUL

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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On Charm update hook change the number to the amount of grimmchild charms equipped

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Well nvm

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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isNotNull -> CANCEL

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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If grimmchild is already there, then the GameObject isn’t null

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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what im gonna have to do is cannibalize weaversong and Mad Science it into one

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Yeah

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Yeah I know what it means

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The first time I opened this in the viewer my heart sank a little

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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It would probably be easiest to do insert method to calculate the grimmchild s

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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and then I was like "wait weaversong exists"

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wait a minute no

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weaversong just spawns 3 weavers and doesnt check count???

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WAIT A MINUTE WHAT IF I JUST

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nah I have to clone the fsm

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cos weaversong is a single charm to spawn 3 weaverlings

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 2:25 AM

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ok dumb question but how do I find the GameObject to copy from 😅

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 2:26 AM

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GameObject.Find("Charm Effects")

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 2:27 AM

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tyty

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also I changed the charm descriptions

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https://gyazo.com/3e35f02e8fa3e732336263a42e5d7750

Gyazo

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wait wouldn't I be copying both to and from the same gameobject? I would need to find and change the fsm's overall name in that case, right?

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Ok so because I'm an idiot tell me how badly I fucked up before I continue

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https://gyazo.com/35eecb1c237253b68a4b945bd8d4e61f

Gyazo

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@jolly oriole

copper nacelle Dec 26, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Wtf is this supposed to do

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 2:53 AM

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it's supposed to be half-written code to duplicate grimmchild's effects five times onto different charms

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WAIT I realized a serious mistake

copper nacelle Dec 26, 2020, 2:54 AM

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why are you copying onto one object 5 times

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 2:55 AM

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because trust me

copper nacelle Dec 26, 2020, 2:55 AM

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no I don't think I will

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 2:56 AM

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in my defense I have literally never done this before and I have already spotted several serious flaws in my current approach that you haven't mentioned yet.

copper nacelle Dec 26, 2020, 2:57 AM

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This is overkill

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 2:58 AM

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https://gyazo.com/2ba539cdab1fb9c1e4c22c68691eabde unless I'm reading this wrong charm effects is the game object here right

Gyazo

copper nacelle Dec 26, 2020, 2:58 AM

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no that's right

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 2:59 AM

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So I'm copying it because I'm fucking stupid and I've been led astray.

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and just realized there is a much simpler and better approach to take

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With a caveat

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deleting that because uh

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Better question how do I create a new game object for use within the context of an FSM

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 7:10 AM

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as in

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https://gyazo.com/cfc3b589013a3ce2fca71c045e11b496

Gyazo

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I need to spawn a thing and first I need a gameobject for that thing to exist I guess is what I'm trying to get at?

copper nacelle Dec 26, 2020, 9:24 AM

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var go = new GameObject();
go.SetActive(false);

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 11:48 AM

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Ah, that 2nd line must have been what I was missing

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I'll try that tomorrow thx

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 12:20 PM

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i mean, i would have done this with copying the charm effect FSM as many times as i want additional grimmchildren, seems possibly simpler to me

copper nacelle Dec 26, 2020, 12:26 PM

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bruh

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literally just dupe the SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool action a few times

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so fucking overkill

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Yeah, just change the tag on the clones and manage the spawning yourself

jolly jungle Dec 26, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Alrightyyyy

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Who pinged

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It feels good to know someone pinged me here when I was offline, means I have some minimal presence at the very least

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@grave basin Sorry for the ping but I absolutely must know
How far did you get, what stuff happened along the way, etc.
Cuz I'm too lazy to read all of chat

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Bruh

jolly oriole Dec 26, 2020, 4:33 PM

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bruh

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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copper nacelle literally just dupe the SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool action a few times

this but adding some other checks for the other charms

grave basin Dec 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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jolly jungle <@!235482330335019008> Sorry for the ping but I absolutely must know How far did...

bruh

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I got it to the point where it'll give me a blowjob but not to the point where it spawns the extras yet cos i got tired and went to sleep

vocal spire Dec 26, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I suggest cloning grimmchild itself instead of in the fsm on the charm update modhook

modest vapor Dec 27, 2020, 4:01 PM

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what tool do you guys use to extract game files from hollow knight?

ornate hornet Dec 27, 2020, 5:18 PM

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It's in the pins, I think it's the AssetBundles thing. Haven't used it myself. There's already a few dumps of gameobjects and image assets around.

jolly oriole Dec 27, 2020, 5:19 PM

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UABE

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or nes's HKWE2

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sometimes i also need nes's unity assets view (forgot the name lol)

modest vapor Dec 27, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Where would I find this?

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I already use UABE but I don’t know where HKWE2 is

jolly oriole Dec 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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https://github.com/nesrak1/HKWorldEdit2

GitHub

nesrak1/HKWorldEdit2

WIP Hollow Knight Level Editor. Contribute to nesrak1/HKWorldEdit2 development by creating an account on GitHub.

ornate rivet Dec 27, 2020, 8:00 PM

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how do you determine what scene the player respawns into after they die?

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cant remember

jolly oriole Dec 27, 2020, 8:00 PM

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1 sec

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PlayerData.respawnScene

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and respawnMarkerName for the GO to spawn at

ornate rivet Dec 27, 2020, 8:06 PM

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thanks

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this game hates me

jolly oriole Dec 27, 2020, 8:14 PM

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pog

jolly jungle Dec 27, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Does the SSEAdv extract sprites, too? I'd guess it does, cuz of the name and all, but you never know

jolly jungle Dec 27, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Anyways

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Now that I have my boss

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I just do LocateMyFSM

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and find the control one

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and then I don't need to do anything from scratch, right?

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I can just change things, too

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Actually, I think I'll start by changing the stun fsm and lower the hits per stun, see if I can change it correctly

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Where should I, uh, acquire, the fsm?

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Lost Lord did it in Start()

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So I suppose, why the hell not

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better than most other options I could've chosen

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Ah, wait, that's in Awake()

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Whatever, we'll just see what happens

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_stunControl.FsmVariables.FindFsmInt("Stun Combo") = 3;
Alright anyone knows why this isn't working?