#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 493

vagrant coral Nov 11, 2020, 7:11 AM

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?mods

autumn shardBOT Nov 11, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2020, 7:34 AM

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sometimes i wonder why people do that here

ornate rivet Nov 11, 2020, 1:27 PM

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?mods

autumn shardBOT Nov 11, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

vocal spire Nov 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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?mods

autumn shardBOT Nov 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

vocal spire Nov 11, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Just wondering, how does hk determine what type of save you are on? Something in Playerdata?

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2020, 2:07 PM

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if you mean normal/steelsoul/godmaster save thing, yes, that is in playerdata

vocal spire Nov 11, 2020, 2:52 PM

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K

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Thinking of a new helper

vagrant coral Nov 11, 2020, 3:32 PM

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?mods

autumn shardBOT Nov 11, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

vocal spire Nov 11, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Seriously tho, jokes aside, why here

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2020, 4:00 PM

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not even just that, but also the second time

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Something i`ve been wondering. Thanks to this server i found a debug mod for Hollow Knight with many different functions, such as invincibillity and noclip. Could it be likely that when Silksong is released or after, that someone might make a similar debug mod? If there is something like that in the works, i´d love to have a look.

young walrus Nov 11, 2020, 6:42 PM

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debug for silksong is already finished. now we just need the game to be finished...

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Sweet. Now, where to find it.

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Kinda wanna have it ready for Silksongs release.

young walrus Nov 11, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Jebaited

unborn flicker Nov 11, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Mickely is being sarcastic... for rather obvious reasons, one cannot generally mod a game without access to the source files.

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Oh. But how long would it take once Silksong is out? Just a estimated guess.

unborn flicker Nov 11, 2020, 6:45 PM

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It will happen whenever someone decides to make it, and not sooner.

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Well aware it would depend on the skill of the person taking on the task of creating a debug mod.

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2020, 6:46 PM

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playing it: let's be generous and say 150 hours
modding it after completed (imo it's horrible to start modding before you're done with the game): idk lol

unborn flicker Nov 11, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Exactly. Fully featured mods will probably not exist during the first month of release.

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:47 PM

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You see. I do get that. However, i want to enjoy the game without the constant stress of struggling with surviving.

young walrus Nov 11, 2020, 6:47 PM

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"i get that, but my needs more important. make me thing"

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probably 3-4 months after release

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as a conservative estimate

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maybe longer

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:48 PM

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That sounds manageable to wait for so long. I wonder if the one i got could be used as a baseline, maybe if the same creator ends up making one for Silksong too.

young walrus Nov 11, 2020, 6:49 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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we don't have the game code my dude

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guesses at this point mean zero

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:50 PM

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What i mean is, if Silksong runs on the same system, most of the functions could probably work. If its a new system, adapt the functions to work with the new one.

young walrus Nov 11, 2020, 6:51 PM

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that's not how this works

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and you can't design a modification to something without the base item specs

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can't design a cover for something or a box for something if you don't know what size it is

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"yeah but the last thing was X size" is a shit reasoning for making something with no information

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Well lets think about it. The invincibility function. At its core, wouldn´t each playable character be fairly identical? So one can start from there.

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In terms of coding.

young walrus Nov 11, 2020, 6:55 PM

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no

unborn flicker Nov 11, 2020, 6:56 PM

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If you want to think about it, the code is all publicly available https://github.com/seresharp/DebugMod

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You are welcome to begin porting it over to Silksong, if you think that is something that makes any sense to do right now.

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I personally dont have the skill and time to do that. Just asking around and trying to understand it as much as i can.

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But if a debug is made after the release of Silksong, would it be likely that if someone who is here finds it, they`ll share it?

unborn flicker Nov 11, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Unfortunately, if you don't have the skill to do it, then you don't have the skill to judge how long it would take. It is reasonable to assume that a Debug mod will be a priority for Silksong, and will be released publicly once development has finished.

As a final note, this channel is for people working on making Hollow Knight mods. Please direct future speculation or questions to #modding-discussion.

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 7:03 PM

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I werent being judgmental with how long it would take. Got it. I`ll keep that in mind.

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All things take time. Just were curious about it, thats all.

vocal spire Nov 11, 2020, 7:53 PM

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It will happen whenever someone decides to make it, and not sooner.
I didn’t make the original modding api and I don’t plan to make silksong’s so sorry everyone

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I would like to help with silksong’s possible modding api but I sure wouldn’t want to make it alone

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You see. I do get that. However, i want to enjoy the game without the constant stress of struggling with surviving.
@tardy mesa it would probably be really easy to make a mod that adds health every time the room changes, ofc it wouldn’t work with other mods, it would break every time there is a update to silksong, and it would make the experience of playing worse. If you are suggesting making a easy mode, then that will take a while. If you are suggesting a debug mod clone, then that would take a little less time but I don’t think anyone will do that without the api

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Is silksong being made in a different version of unity?

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If it is I hope it isn’t finished soon because I don’t want to remember 2 versions of unity stuff

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I would like to finish the mods I’m working on before it’s release

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So then I can focus only on silksong

sage holly Nov 11, 2020, 8:05 PM

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agreed

vocal spire Nov 11, 2020, 8:06 PM

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And leave the knight to die somewhere

sage holly Nov 11, 2020, 8:06 PM

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pale court development would inmediatly halt if silksong dropped next week

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at 5:00pm, west

vocal spire Nov 11, 2020, 8:06 PM

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?

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.....?

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........??????

sage holly Nov 11, 2020, 8:06 PM

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just shitposting, dont mind me

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I'm totally not a TC worker

vocal spire Nov 11, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Hmmmm

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sus increased by 5%

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Anyway I’m probably gonna try to port multiplayer to silksong at some point

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hornetmares get worse

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Oh that would be a good boss mod thanks for the idea me

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murder hornets

tardy mesa Nov 11, 2020, 9:18 PM

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@tardy mesa it would probably be really easy to make a mod that adds health every time the room changes, ofc it wouldn’t work with other mods, it would break every time there is a update to silksong, and it would make the experience of playing worse. If you are suggesting making a easy mode, then that will take a while. If you are suggesting a debug mod clone, then that would take a little less time but I don’t think anyone will do that without the api
@vocal spire Its not really a easy mode im looking for. Its fine with keeping the set difficulty. Its a mod with a god mode/ invincibility feature i’d be on the lookout for. With noclip too in case i get stuck somewhere.

languid goblet Nov 11, 2020, 9:43 PM

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so you want a super easy mode?

narrow ridge Nov 11, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Maybe make a song selection mod because the soundtrack is amazing

jolly oriole Nov 11, 2020, 9:54 PM

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i think mikely was working on some kind of music mod

narrow ridge Nov 11, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Cool

zealous basin Nov 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Im new to this topic but these are my thoughts on the time it would take. Im going to guess;
The first solid working version, with the same features as usual could be done in 2 weeks of mod development.
But modding the game with things like hk has right now would take a bit longer(modcommon, api etc)

It's Just a guess, but it would need a lot of dev time to implement all those features,
And people would want to play through the game fully of course.

vocal spire Nov 12, 2020, 1:13 AM

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We could probably reuse a lot but it would also take a lot of rewriting

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Just got back to the inventory code I was making and for some reason it isn’t working help

vocal spire Nov 12, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Ok I don’t know any other way to explain it than the code just doesn’t want to work

shadow dagger Nov 12, 2020, 2:33 AM

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there's a multiplayer mod for hollow knight ????

vocal spire Nov 12, 2020, 2:40 AM

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@shadow dagger #modding-discussion also yes

shadow dagger Nov 12, 2020, 2:41 AM

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my bad, just saw that you mentioned it

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modding community for hollow knight is insane

vocal spire Nov 12, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Update on my problem it seems that the game has its own plans and is disregarding my code

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I want to throw the pc

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Nvm fixed forgot that it needed preloading

jolly oriole Nov 12, 2020, 7:31 AM

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wait, do your pages need preloading or does the itemhelper in general need preloading?

vocal spire Nov 12, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Item helper in general

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Only reason I got it was because I think you put a comment about it possibly not working without preloading

vagrant coral Nov 12, 2020, 1:36 PM

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?mods

autumn shardBOT Nov 12, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

floral furnace Nov 12, 2020, 1:39 PM

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This is for developement so please can you use commands like these in #archived-modding-help if youre just gonna get the mods

vagrant coral Nov 12, 2020, 1:53 PM

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This is for developement so please can you use commands like these in #archived-modding-help if youre just gonna get the mods
@floral furnace ok sorry

gilded lotus Nov 12, 2020, 9:24 PM

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also a pinned message in #archived-modding-help of that command

quick matrix Nov 13, 2020, 12:01 AM

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How's CustomKnight+ coming along?

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Have paused to work on something else

gilded lotus Nov 13, 2020, 5:25 AM

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you make it

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 1:05 PM

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An Android version plz
@severe rapids if you ask for it in every modding channel that kinda makes us ignore that request also that wouldn’t be a mod, that would be a port or remake and I don’t think anyone here would do that

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Also that would be a knightmare to control

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Does anyone have a guide for getting started? I already develop in unity so I didn't think it would be that difficult so I opened a existing mod file, but I couldn't understand what was going on, and there were errors whenever I tried to change anything.

sage holly Nov 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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ok I've learn how to make spritesheets into animations in unity

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now I just need tutorials on how to make the enemy

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anyone willing to deliver?

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a tutorial I meant

shadow dagger Nov 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@fervent timber Check https://radiance.host/apidocs and the pinned comments in this channel

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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thanks

sage holly Nov 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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no written tutorial in the interent?

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help pls

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ples I gotta go soon

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ok searched on my own on the apicdocs, will see if this is good for me

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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@sage holly I looked that up and it’s really easy to find.... unless you didn’t say what you need(I’m talking about spritesheets > animations)

sage holly Nov 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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nope, I know how to do that already

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I meant animations-->tell what to do to the animation (move from point a to b, etc etc)

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Wdym

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Like making a object in unity move?

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Really simple

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You need to code it tho

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Oh wait

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Just look up how to make animations from sprites in unity

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I found a helpful tutorial a while ago

sage holly Nov 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I already made an animation out of a spritesheet

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I now want to make it cicle from a point to the other of the screen

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Oh so moving the object then?

sage holly Nov 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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yes, but on its own

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Code

sage holly Nov 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yikes
thats why I need tutorial

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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I can help

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just requires my entire lunch

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Right click in the file explorer part of unity and click create script

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Click on the object you want to move

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Click add component(I forgot the name of the button) on the right

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Type in the search bar what you named your script

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Select it

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Now the script is on the sprite

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Now add another component, this one one is called rigid body

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Actually nvm

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Don’t do that

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Open the script in your preferred text editor

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Or a c# ide if you have one

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Paste

if(transform.position.x < 5)
transform.position += new Vector3(0.25f, 0f, 0f);

In between the { and } under Update()

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Paste

transform.position = new Vector3(0f, 0f, 0f);

In between the { and } under Start()

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Save it

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Go back to unity

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Start it

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watch it go!

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Now I gtg

sage holly Nov 13, 2020, 6:29 PM

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ok thanks see u later

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I'll tell you if it worked tomorrow or something

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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I downloaded the "example mod" and opened it in visual studio.

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📎 unknown.png

jolly oriole Nov 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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exactly what the error says: missing assembly reference

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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where can I find the assembly files?

jolly oriole Nov 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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game_installation_path\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\AssemblyName.dll

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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where is the Modding dll?

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I imported the assemblyc# and the modcommon

jolly oriole Nov 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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that's in the patched assembly-csharp.dll

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 7:30 PM

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the reference is invalid or unsupported

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@fervent timber so you referenced Assembly-cSharp.dll?

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I hit add assembly reference and then chose the hollow knight patched assemblyc#.dll

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did nothing

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Screenshots or it didn’t happen

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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am i doing it wrong?

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vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I meant adding the assembly

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 8:01 PM

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isn't that adding the assembly?

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 8:02 PM

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?

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 8:02 PM

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what do I have to do

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I don’t see adding a reference anywhere

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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so i was missing a step i guess

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Oh wait the image didn’t load

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Ok so you add the assembly from file explorer, then click ok in the bottom right?

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 8:04 PM

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yep

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Hmmm

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Try removing the original assembly C sharp reference

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Then reference the new one

fervent timber Nov 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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okay thanks! it worked

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Np

vocal spire Nov 13, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I feel like my life is ending, I have the perfect timeframe to work on hk mods but I can’t because someone else needs the pc

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This has been a long 6 mins

jolly oriole Nov 13, 2020, 11:36 PM

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nice

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or well, not nice

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Well I still can’t use it

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Apparently they were downloading something and it was interrupted

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another bunch of hours

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And if I get to use it tomorrow, I don’t get to use it for long

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Since I gotta go somewhere tomorrow

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Smh my head

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Oof

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Ok, now, finally, I can use it

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 3:28 PM

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delicate flower finally works shroompog

📎 2020-11-14_08-25-32.mkv

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 4:57 PM

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guys... I think I have custom relics working

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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shroompog

📎 2020-11-14_11-14-31.mp4

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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It will look really cool when a page is full of actual sprites

sage holly Nov 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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good evening

sage holly Nov 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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@vocal spire it didnt work
here's the code

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using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class husk_cart_behavior : MonoBehaviour {

// Use this for initialization
void Start () {
    transfor.position = new Vector3(0f, 0f, 0f);    
}

// Update is called once per frame
void Update () {
if(transform.position.x < 20)
transform.position += new Vector3(0.25f, 0f, 0f);    
}

}

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also, any way to make it start with a different animation? like taking one out of a list of 3 animations at random, and each animation having an assigned movement speed?

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I asked in other places and someone suggested me to use pools, what about that?

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Oh that’s easy

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Idk why it wouldn’t work

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What happens when you run it?

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Regarding the scene loading error (sometimes mentioned in the modding channels): there is no way to bypass the 3-4 GB max ram usage for hk, as it is a 32bit program

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 9:21 PM

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:(

unborn flicker Nov 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Are you talking about infinite loads or invisible bosses?

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Someone should add a message like that to the installer

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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breaking preloads

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Whenever you install a lot of mods

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But people wouldn’t read it

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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well, not necesarily breaking preloads, but when loading a bunch of scenes, just crashing the game

unborn flicker Nov 14, 2020, 9:24 PM

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I see. So if you were making a mod with a large number of objects needed from the game, would you try to load their scenes only as needed, or would you do something else?

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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currently i have a custom modding api that doesn't load the scenes for the preloads all at once, but only in packs of 5

unborn flicker Nov 14, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I guess that would fix the issue of the game crashing at start-up at least. There are still lots of other issues from committing lots of objects to memory though, like infinite loads, invisible THK, etc.

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Maybe we could just load them in between room loads?

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That way only certain rooms take up more memory

unborn flicker Nov 14, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yeah, I think that's what you would have to do with any full-game mod that changes enemies on a room-to-room level.

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It would also get rid of the huge start-up time, as well.

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 9:38 PM

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let me time, how long it takes to load the scenemanager from every scene (that has one)

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so, on my machine, class was contructed ~3.9 seconds after the game started and the initialize happened ~125.1 seconds after game start, which means that it took ~121.2 seconds to load the scenemangers from 452 different scenes.

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Is that good or bad?

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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considering that it preloaded most of the scenes in the whole game, i'd say that is good

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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K

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 10:15 PM

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https://github.com/SFGrenade/HollowKnight.Modding adjustable batch size, so one is able to have everything from serial preload to load all at once

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

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How do you adjust it

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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moddingapi.globalsettings.json

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Makes sense

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

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now that i think about it, maybe should have done a check for negative numbers, but if one messes with that, shouldn't be too difficult for them to just remove the whole line to make the modding api regenerate that

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 10:20 PM

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What would negative numbers do?

jolly oriole Nov 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

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logically i would think infinite load

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but i don't want to test it

vocal spire Nov 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

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K

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I don’t want to either

devout orchid Nov 15, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I wonder if someone was an idiot that they made a mod that you can add mods on ps4. Like. How would you add that mod?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 1:10 AM

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@devout orchid what?

devout orchid Nov 15, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I just had a idea of a useless mod

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That's all

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 1:11 AM

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K

jolly oriole Nov 15, 2020, 1:45 AM

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📎 SPOILER_2020-11-15_02-44-16.mp4

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Oh wow

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More health and better hornet

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Tot lookin fancy

jolly oriole Nov 15, 2020, 1:46 AM

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oh, the health is just from save editing

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Oh k

jolly oriole Nov 15, 2020, 1:47 AM

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those are 21 masks (and then the joni charm)

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Ok programming on my bad pc is not fun

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For some reason I can’t open my inventory

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K shutting down my pc bc I’m angry that it won’t open the inventory

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The mod kinda revolves around the inventory

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Also this isn’t due to editing the inventory

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Since the inventory normally opens to the charms menu on a bench, none of the stuff I edited would take place there

robust talon Nov 15, 2020, 5:44 AM

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zote

fair rampart Nov 15, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Idk if this is the right place to post it, but I made hollow knight work with voice only. I'll delete the link if this is the wrong place since it isn't technically modding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG2qiFiOOYo

YouTube

ParrotPy

Hands-Free Hollow Knight Demo - Attempting Soul Master

I am trying to play Hollow Knight to completion using only audio and an eyetracker. No keyboards, no mice, no controllers. I stream my progress on twitch sometimes at https://twitch.tv/charsk

To do all this, I use the following python program that I developed and am developi...

▶ Play video

proven cipher Nov 15, 2020, 10:10 AM

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That's sick

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 1:09 PM

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I think that it fits here

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Also yeah, that’s sick

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@robust talon ?

halcyon lagoon Nov 15, 2020, 1:37 PM

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thats cool as fuck man

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 6:47 PM

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I got pale court news

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Give

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Plz

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 6:47 PM

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and the news are...

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we're looking for extra staff in the programming departament

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Hmmmmmmmm

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Is me able join?

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 6:50 PM

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sure

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 6:50 PM

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shroompog

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 6:50 PM

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https://discord.gg/Sn9P4gCU

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Oooooo

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 6:51 PM

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anyone who wants to try and show their worthyness come around

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 6:51 PM

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K

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I hope I’m worthy

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So uh, what do I do after joining?

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 6:52 PM

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say hi or something

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 6:52 PM

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K

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 6:53 PM

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someone else should evaluate wether you join us or not

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 6:53 PM

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K

languid goblet Nov 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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i can make useless joke mods that work all of the time, half of the time, am i qualified

jolly oriole Nov 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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imagine actually making mods

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oh wait, i did make some

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Hmmmmm

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I did too

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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do I need to download playmaker or is it already in unity?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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You need to buy it

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Then download it

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zote

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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mmm

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Unless it’s already in the unity project

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In that case, it’s already there

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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does ripping HK adds it?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Ripping hk gets a version without editing

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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so, yes?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Yes but no

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Depends on your use

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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also, how can I expect to download it, when IT'S ALREADY HERE

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:03 PM

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?

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:03 PM

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homestuck reference

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kind of the "but it was ME, DIO" of homestuck

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:03 PM

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What will you be using playmaker for?

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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1-learnig how to use it
2-small thing in pale court

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Then you will need to full version

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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so small I may've been able to do it myself

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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You can only add the fsm component with hk’s ripped version

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You can’t open the editor or anything else

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At least from my testing that is

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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ok

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I'll leave it to the rest of the team then I guess

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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I have playmaker

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~~used it for that one sans fight I didn’t finish~~

sage holly Nov 15, 2020, 8:06 PM

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~~finish it or else~~

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:06 PM

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And for the definitely pale court mod I made

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Idk if it worked tho

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Because I purposely put minimal code into it

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:07 PM

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hi everyon

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Hello

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Nice Name you got there

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I want to say thank you to everyone who creates mods for Hollow Knight!

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Np

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:09 PM

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it is thanks to you that I can wait for SilkSong!

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Prepare for sans since I remember it now

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Give me a couple months to finish other stuff

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:10 PM

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you breathe new life into the game, making it only better!

jolly oriole Nov 15, 2020, 8:13 PM

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I can wait for SilkSong!
i can't

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vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Oh yeah

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I forgot we can do that now

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:13 PM

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this is definitely what I need!

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listen
, how do you create mods?

jolly oriole Nov 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Here is a good place to learn https://radiance.host/apidocs/

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Well I’m late

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:20 PM

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what mods can you recommend?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:21 PM

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I’d recommend the mods I made

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zote

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:21 PM

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alright

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what kind?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I made Uuwuu, lifeblood master, and dream shield coop. The others aren’t on the installer

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Uuwuu?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Boss mod

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:24 PM

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It is hard Uumuu?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Yes

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Rng heavy

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:25 PM

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no, thanks

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Lifeblood master isn’t as rng heavy. You’ll never guess what it’s a harder version of

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I'm not suicidal

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Only hard versions bosses?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:25 PM

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?

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There are some new bosses

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Indie crossover adds 3

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:26 PM

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i understand

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i see Lifeblood master

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nice work!

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Thanks

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I was planning a update to it, then had to work on other stuff

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:27 PM

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where did you make his sprites?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:27 PM

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I just edited the hive knight spritesheet I got from the last pin in #art-discussion

grizzled hedge Nov 15, 2020, 8:28 PM

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i understand

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do you want to make more mods?

vocal spire Nov 15, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Yes, I would be working on them rn if my pc was working

quick matrix Nov 16, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I'm just waiting on CustomKnight+. I wanna see that Quirrel Skin.

vocal spire Nov 16, 2020, 1:54 AM

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K

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There is no quirrel skin anymore

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Person who offered to make the sprites had to do other things

quick matrix Nov 16, 2020, 5:00 AM

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I wish tho

hard mantle Nov 17, 2020, 2:10 AM

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wish I actually had the time and talent to mod, besides I can't ever even figure out how install the modding thing. Props to all the people who made the hollow knight mods

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good job people!

flat forum Nov 17, 2020, 7:15 AM

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"talent"

fair rampart Nov 17, 2020, 2:17 PM

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I mean modding* isn't really a talent, you just need to study the code and get how it works, it allways takes time, just like any skill.

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I'm so bad at english

vocal spire Nov 17, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Idk I still don’t get the difference between talent and skill

fast estuary Nov 17, 2020, 3:44 PM

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talent is usually a natural ability while skill is something you learned/trained for

jolly oriole Nov 17, 2020, 3:45 PM

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I have a talent for being terrible at guessing

floral furnace Nov 17, 2020, 3:47 PM

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talent is a mix of hardwork, determination, and finding other's github pages then """borrowing""" their code

mostly the last one

ruby ridge Nov 17, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Idk if this is the right place to post it, but I made hollow knight work with voice only. I'll delete the link if this is the wrong place since it isn't technically modding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG2qiFiOOYo
@fair rampart that's amazing lol congratulations 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

YouTube

ParrotPy

Hands-Free Hollow Knight Demo - Attempting Soul Master

I am trying to play Hollow Knight to completion using only audio and an eyetracker. No keyboards, no mice, no controllers. I stream my progress on twitch sometimes at https://twitch.tv/charsk

To do all this, I use the following python program that I developed and am developi...

▶ Play video

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I'm imagining someone trying Path of Pain with this feature

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would be epic

fair rampart Nov 17, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Well, I don´t know when Path of Pain is coming up in the campaign, but I´m gonna attempt it with it 🙂

jolly oriole Nov 17, 2020, 5:57 PM

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path of pain is in the white palace

vocal spire Nov 17, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I'm imagining someone trying Path of Pain with this feature
No, can confirm someone is not going to do that

autumn tulip Nov 17, 2020, 8:00 PM

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excuse my language but holy shit that's cool

vocal spire Nov 17, 2020, 8:00 PM

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K

fair rampart Nov 17, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Swear words would be even worse, more latency than simple letters

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I'm not sure if something called Path of Pain allows for a 400ms timeframe to basically do nothing

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Yeah the F word is about 100ms long, so that would be one hell of a handicap

autumn tulip Nov 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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ultimate hk challenge

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seriously tho what you're doing is awesome, this could potentially make hk + likely a lot of other games accessible to a lot of people

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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How do I set up the AssetBundle browser?

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I have the page open in front of me

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should I download the zip?

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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yea

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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oh wait I already downloaded it, apparently

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So I copy over the folder inside it to whatever unity project I have for my stuff?

vocal spire Nov 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Yes

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Saleh are you ok

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Oh

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My phone just being bad

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It made it look like you had a default pfp

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Can I use the sprite sheets that were ripped from the game

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like this

📎 Crystal_Guardian_-_atlas0_74502.png

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for example

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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sure?

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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or would I need to rearrange the sprites

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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depends on what you want to do with it

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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explain?

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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are you trying to make a new ~~boss~~ thing or do you just want to recolor it?

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Oh I see

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so if only a recolor then I can use it like this?

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Why, though

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why does it work like this

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:51 PM

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If you just want to reskin the crystal boss, then you can swap the spritesheet

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if you want to actually use these sprites for something else, then you will have to do typical unity animation shinanigans

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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ugh

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I see

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Nes has a tool that makes this much nicer

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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If I want to base the boss off crystal guardian, I suppose I can swipe the spritesheet, right?

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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https://github.com/nesrak1/sseadv

GitHub

nesrak1/sseadv

another old project being uploaded - tk2d sprite viewer/extractor/importer - nesrak1/sseadv

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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after that I just link the animations to the correct moves etc.

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What's this?

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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it gets the boss animations for you

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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looks cool

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how does one use it

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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so you dont need to figure out the order yourself

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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also what do you mean by "get"

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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gives you the set of sprites that make the idle animation for example

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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also were like 90% of the tools we use made by the same three people

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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yea

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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gives you the set of sprites that make the idle animation for example
so... no sheet needed?

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:55 PM

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yea

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:55 PM

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hm

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how do I download this

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:56 PM

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the release

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https://github.com/nesrak1/sseadv/releases/tag/v3

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:56 PM

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it looks spread over a lot of files, no folder or anything

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oh thanks

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just the zip, right?

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:56 PM

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yea

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I don't need to care about the source code

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:56 PM

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indeed

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except little did you know that it has a bitcoin miner in it that will destroy your computer

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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alright five things in the zip

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which do I need

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except little did you know that it has a bitcoin miner in it that will destroy your computer
oh ok good to know

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how long do I have?

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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extract all of them and open the .exe

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:58 PM

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where should I move them to

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anywhere specific?

ornate rivet Nov 17, 2020, 9:58 PM

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nope

jolly jungle Nov 17, 2020, 9:58 PM

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or just

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"extract"

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also whats the name of it mean?

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sseadv

vocal spire Nov 17, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Super sprite something something something something I forgot

languid goblet Nov 17, 2020, 10:14 PM

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super sprite extractor advanced

dark wigeon Nov 18, 2020, 12:14 AM

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except little did you know that it has a bitcoin miner in it that will destroy your computer
😠 what's this all about

ornate rivet Nov 18, 2020, 12:34 AM

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sorry boss

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 1:05 AM

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😠 what's this all about
😠 what's this all about

twilit briar Nov 18, 2020, 4:02 AM

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gnome

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 8:55 AM

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super sprite extractor advanced
wait really

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nice

solemn rivet Nov 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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tfw nes is more alive and active in main than you

floral furnace Nov 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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cuz ur lame gottem

solemn rivet Nov 18, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Is tru

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 3:56 PM

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I have the sseadv, should I simply run the exe

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?

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Alrgihgt I have no idea how to use it

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Hm
the modding api docs suggest to download an example mod and build off there. It gives a link to the Hell mod. now, I was wondering, would I want to download it from there or through the modinstaller?
to learn from it, that is.

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Alrgihgt I have no idea how to use it
figured out the basics of the sseadv for now

ornate rivet Nov 18, 2020, 4:41 PM

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the modinstaller gives you the dll

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not the code

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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ah youre right

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good point

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thanks

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Well, the code is in the dll, but using Dnspy or ilspy to edit it isn’t a good way to make mods

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 4:54 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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what do I download

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Just click code

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Then download

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 4:54 PM

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👌

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thanks

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Have fun!

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 4:55 PM

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"fun"

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sure

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the fun isnt yet

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which of the files should I look at?

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I have HellMod.cs open and it looks very promising

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are there any others I'll need?

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So, if I understand correctly. Whenever damage is taken, this is called as a sort of inbetween function that can modify the actual value. In this case, it receives the damage taken in damage, then checks if settings.DoubleDeamage is true or false. If it is, returns double damage, otherwise simply returns the damage passed to it. Yes?

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And settings.DoubleDeamage can be found here, along with some of the other restrictions the mod applies

📎 unknown.png

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So, if I turn off some of them, theoretically, the mod should no longer influence whatever they were supposed to do because everything is does is after checking the values of these. Yes?

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@ anyone helpful

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@ someone, please just tell me if I understood right or wrong

copper nacelle Nov 18, 2020, 5:18 PM

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yeah

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 5:18 PM

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thanks

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now to understand the rest of the file

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then the syntax

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then how it ties to everything else

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not necessarily in that order

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off I go

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Sorry, I’m in school atm

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 5:30 PM

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oh its alright

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 6:26 PM

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The left side- ModHooks.Instance.GenericHook - is the game's actual hooks, right? While the right side, OnGenericOccurrence, are the functions that are later defined. So, in the case of OnHealthTaken I looked at earlier, it is called every time TakeHealthHook is "triggered". Right?

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languid goblet Nov 18, 2020, 6:28 PM

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the modding api docs explains how hooks work and stuff

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 6:34 PM

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yeah I know

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I read it

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I just wanted to make sure I understand

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and using this is perfect for learning

languid goblet Nov 18, 2020, 7:12 PM

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ah ok

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 7:12 PM

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~~A little late~~

languid goblet Nov 18, 2020, 7:13 PM

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?

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Does one need to convert a project to a dll file to get it to work or can the project mod the game even in the form of a folder?

copper nacelle Nov 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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you compile it into a dll

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 8:52 PM

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oh ok

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how does one do that?

copper nacelle Nov 18, 2020, 9:03 PM

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hit build

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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where?

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Look, I'm stupid and new to this

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Screenshot

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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what even needs to be included within the build?

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Pressing build will just build it

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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the entire folder I downloaded?

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Screenshot

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Are you using visual studio or something else?

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:08 PM

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vs, yeah

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no wait

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vscode

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:08 PM

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K

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Try looking at the top

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Is there a tab called build?

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:09 PM

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nope

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not up there

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which is odd

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cuz its there in like any other editor I ever used

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I have visual studio community and it’s there

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Screenshot

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:10 PM

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📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Nov 18, 2020, 9:10 PM

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ctrl shift p

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:10 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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ctrl shift p
k lemme try

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uh

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no not really I think

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📎 unknown.png

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oh wait

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wait no

copper nacelle Nov 18, 2020, 9:11 PM

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it's time to type build

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:11 PM

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yeah

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I figured now

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but

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its alphabetical

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so...?

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hm

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lemme try anyways

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oh its under other things

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which?

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Run

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:12 PM

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second, right?

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ye

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ok

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📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:13 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Idk how vscode works

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:14 PM

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me neither

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I have vs but iirc there was something stopping me from using it

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checked like half a year ago

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Maybe look up how to build in vscode?

jolly jungle Nov 18, 2020, 9:15 PM

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yeah

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that sounds like a, how does one say, good idea

unborn flicker Nov 18, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I've used VS code a bit (not for C#) and I'm pretty sure you just build from the terminal. Definitely recommend using VS or Ryder over that.

copper nacelle Nov 18, 2020, 9:41 PM

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If you get the plugin the build action works when you open it correctly

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but I'd still recommend vs or rider over vs code for c#

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:42 PM

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What exactly is the difference between vscode and vs

jolly oriole Nov 18, 2020, 9:43 PM

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vscode is an editor with many plugins, vs is vs

vocal spire Nov 18, 2020, 9:43 PM

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K

copper nacelle Nov 18, 2020, 11:30 PM

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they can but they won't

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Why would I spend my time doing something like that when I could be working on mods that add rooms

proven cipher Nov 19, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I feel like you could do something with the Rando mod to make that happen.

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Like... Using the code from it, not in options.

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I know how to do it

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Get a aspid from preloading

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On room change, copy the aspid to every enemy location and delete the original enemies

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For some reason I don’t want to go this simple task

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I think something that would make it better though is making the journal entries into the normal enemies instead of the aspids

languid goblet Nov 19, 2020, 12:34 AM

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i still can't figure out why when i preload an aspid it just sits there and doesn't move lol

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Probably something with the range in the fsm

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That’s a lot of work

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Every single enemy

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Editing every single one

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Sprites, and fsm(type of code)

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K

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Then that’s easier

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If you mean modifying the projectiles in spritesheets

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Not how that works

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I do have a idea on how to do something like that

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If we replace the code that spawns projectiles for the entire game, and check if the projectile that would be spawned could hurt the player, we replace it with a aspid shot

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If you want everything to shoot aspids, then it’s easier to change it to aspids

vivid plover Nov 19, 2020, 8:35 AM

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how do you install the ak47 mod asking for a friend

jolly jungle Nov 19, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Alright I'm back

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First of all

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@vivid plover go to #archived-modding-help

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Second

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VSCode is apparently for web development so to hell with that

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I used VS instead

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but I ran into multiple issues trying to builf

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build

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a hell lot of dependencies didnt function correctly

vivid plover Nov 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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ok

jolly jungle Nov 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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I'm gonna need to download and set up a few stuff and then continue

vivid plover Nov 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

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i figured it out aalso thanks though

jolly jungle Nov 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

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@vivid plover you'll want to look at the pinned messages

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ah ok

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👌

vivid plover Nov 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

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yea thanks for being nice

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 1:43 PM

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@jolly jungle dependencies need to be re added some times since people have hk installed in different locations

jolly jungle Nov 19, 2020, 2:25 PM

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wdym?

jolly oriole Nov 19, 2020, 2:47 PM

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on the left side, there is an entry called "references", some of those entries have different paths depending on the system the project was created on (e.g. different HK installation paths)

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Has there been a fix for macos big sur yet?

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 3:36 PM

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No

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 3:37 PM

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oh alright

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 3:48 PM

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updating my laptop is so much work

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 4:02 PM

#

It didnt take that long for my laptop

#

lol

#

It took like 30 minutes

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 4:05 PM

#

Ever heard of windows?

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 4:06 PM

#

yeah pretty shit os

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:18 PM

#

x5fiftPrime

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_2.17.52_PM.png

#

@sleek palm what happens when you run it

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:28 PM

#

it either crashes immediately

#

or

#

it takes a long time to do something

#

then it crashes

#

@copper nacelle

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:32 PM

#

can you run it from terminal

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:33 PM

#

no

#

it doesnt work

#

wait

#

wdym by that

#

you mean the thing where you take the exe file

#

and put it in terminal?

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

no

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

what do you mean?

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

you have like a .app right

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:35 PM

#

yeah

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:35 PM

#

what is it called and where is it

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:35 PM

#

its called

#

ModInstaller 2 and its in my applications folder

#

wait no

#

its in my downloads folder

#

well it was

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:36 PM

#

cd "~/Downloads/ModInstaller 2.app/Contents/MacOS"

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:36 PM

#

but i put it on my desktop

#

i put it on my desktop

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

ok well that but Desktop instead of Downloads

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

ok

#

do i copy the cd too?

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:38 PM

#

yes

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:38 PM

#

ok

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_2.39.15_PM.png

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:39 PM

#

cd Desktop

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:40 PM

#

yeah

#

ik

#

thats what it said

#

when i typed in what you said

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:41 PM

#

what

#

no i mean

#

just cd Desktop

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:41 PM

#

oh ok

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:42 PM

#

then ls | grep "ModInstaller"

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:42 PM

#

mhm

#

ok

#

modinstaller

#

or modinstaller 2

#

cause there are 2 of them

#

when i typed

#

ls | grep "ModInstaller"

#

it showed

#

2

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

#

show

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_2.43.07_PM.png

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

#

cd ModInstaller\ 2.app

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

#

ok

#

mhm

#

then?

sage holly Nov 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

#

pale court has taken so long I've started to learn code

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

#

cd Contents/MacOS

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:44 PM

#

ok

#

after?

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:44 PM

#

./ModInstaller

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:44 PM

#

./

#

or just /

#

@copper nacelle

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:47 PM

#

./

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:47 PM

#

ok

#

it says its open

#

but there no screen for it

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

#

how long does it take before it dies when you run it normally

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

#

and my computers fans just kicked in too

#

usually like

#

15-30 seconds

#

maybe longer

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

#

is it still running in the terminal

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:51 PM

#

yeah

#

no screen has opened yet

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:52 PM

#

show terminal

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:53 PM

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_2.53.16_PM.png

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:55 PM

#

wtf

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:55 PM

#

wtf what?

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:56 PM

#

no output no launch

#

no crash

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:56 PM

#

nope

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

#

sage holly pale court has taken so long I've started to learn code

Cool

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

#

sleek palm nope

Not cool

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 7:59 PM

#

can you try this

📎 mac.zip

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 7:59 PM

#

ok

#

what do i do with it

#

its just a folder

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

#

Go inside it

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

#

i did

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

#

Anything in there?

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

#

but its a bunch of random stuff i dont know what to do with

#

@copper nacelle what do i do with it?

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

#

I’d ask for a screenshot but 56 probably has something better

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

#

open another terminal

#

do cd Downloads/mac; chmod +x ./ModInstaller; ./ModInstaller;

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

#

and the thing just crashed

#

that i opened like

#

3 minutes ago

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

#

nice

#

did it give any output

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:02 PM

#

i kinda closed the terminal when you said to open another one

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:02 PM

#

F

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:02 PM

#

that's why it closed lmao

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

also this was the output for cd Downloads/mac; chmod +x ./ModInstaller; ./ModInstaller;

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_3.02.48_PM.png

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

copper nacelle that's why it closed lmao

no

#

it crashed before i closed it

#

it said

#

the application

#

avalioan whatever its called

#

could not open

#

or something

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

interesting

#

where is the folder

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

in my downloads folder

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

Put it on the desktop

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

no

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

Oh

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:04 PM

#

is it called mac

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:04 PM

#

yes

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:04 PM

#

cd ~/Downloads/mac

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:04 PM

#

ok

#

ok

#

and then?

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:04 PM

#

did it work

#

did it give any output when you did that '

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:05 PM

#

it worked

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:05 PM

#

yay

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:05 PM

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_3.05.50_PM.png

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:06 PM

#

chmod +x ./ModInstaller; ./ModInstaller

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:06 PM

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_3.06.49_PM.png

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:07 PM

#

ls | grep "ModInst"

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:07 PM

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_3.07.35_PM.png

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:07 PM

#

x5fiftPrime

#

ls

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:08 PM

#

lol

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:08 PM

#

?

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:08 PM

#

do ls

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:08 PM

#

ok

#

it just listed

#

every single file

#

in the folder

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:09 PM

#

yeah that is the intention

#

chmod +x ./Modinstaller2

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

#

ok

#

k

#

no output

#

it worked

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

#

./Modinstaller2

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

#

ok

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_3.10.31_PM.png

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

#

why did you type o

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

#

oh

#

lol

#

how do i disable that cannot open because of unidentified developer

#

cause imma have to allow every single file in that folder to open

#

and thats gonna take ages

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:13 PM

#

Yeah

#

Do that

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:13 PM

#

does it ask that for every dll?

#

x5fiftPrime

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:13 PM

#

Only do it for the file(s) listed if not

#

Probably

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

bruh

#

it finally works

#

and yes

#

it asked for every dll

#

alr

#

now for steam

#

how do i put the file path

#

for steam

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

?saves

autumn shardBOT Nov 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

Saves

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

Mac game files path

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

ok

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

Unless you changed the install location

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

@copper nacelle wait how am i gonna rerun this?

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

Same way you just did it I guess

#

Unless they create a better way

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

#

ok lol

#

also

#

what do i do

#

cause its not letting me drag a folder in there

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

#

drag tf

#

what are you doing

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

#

this what it says

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_3.16.43_PM.png

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

#

Yeah

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

#

thats it

#

theres nothing else but that

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

#

Try clicking it, maybe a finder thing will appear

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

#

click it

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

#

im clicking

#

nothing

#

is happening

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

#

x5fiftM

#

it do be a button

📎 unknown.png

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:18 PM

#

it says

#

buttom

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

what

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

look at the code

#

it says

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

<Button

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

bottom

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

the tag is a b utton bro

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

button....

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

oh ok

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

it's just also set to the bottom

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

can i try reopening it

#

your gonna have to walk me through it again

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

#

go to your terminal

#

hit ctrl-c

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

#

mhm

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

#

then do ./Modinstaller2

#

easy

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

#

ctrl c

#

or cmd c

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

#

ctrl

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:21 PM

#

still not working

#

do i have to have hollow knight open?

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:22 PM

#

You shouldn’t

#

You can’t have hk open while using the mod installer(s) or they’ll break a bit

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

#

mk

#

i dont have it open

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

#

i will pay you $0 to share your screen

#

think about it

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

#

alr

#

ill do it

#

go to general

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

I’ll pay you $-100 to share your screen

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

nothing

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

can you not click on it

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

#

nope

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

cursed

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

very

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

i'll try and replicate on my laptop

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

ok

#

im probably gonna be at practice by the time u get home

#

bruh

#

i fucked up that sentence

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

online school think about it

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

wait

#

i meant

#

im probably gonna be at practice by the time your done

#

so

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

#

ah

#

understandable

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

what timezone r u?

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

lol

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:36 PM

#

est

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 8:36 PM

#

ok

#

same

#

i wont be home until like

#

8 pm

#

and im leaving in like 20 minutes

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 8:37 PM

#

understandable

#

it doesn't work on my mac either

#

so i can just test there

#

i fixed it

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 9:17 PM

#

copper nacelle i fixed it

shroompog

#

~~Wait did I forget to turn off the ping~~

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 9:18 PM

#

oh those ping

#

that's interesting

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 9:18 PM

#

You can turn it on and off

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 9:19 PM

#

neat

ornate rivet Nov 19, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

copper nacelle neat

imagine turning it off

jolly oriole Nov 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

only necessary if you get pinged/answered

vocal spire Nov 19, 2020, 10:31 PM

#

ornate rivet imagine turning it off

Yeah lol

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 10:54 PM

#

copper nacelle i fixed it

pog

#

Imma be home soon

#

Cause it turns out I don’t have practice today

#

@copper nacelle do you have to send me another file to download?

#

Or does it work with the one you already gave me

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 10:55 PM

#

it's in modding-help pins

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 10:56 PM

#

Oh ok

#

Ty

#

Do I have to do any of that terminal thing?

#

@copper nacelle

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 11:00 PM

#

no

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 11:01 PM

#

Ok

#

?saves

autumn shardBOT Nov 19, 2020, 11:11 PM

#

Saves

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 11:14 PM

#

@copper nacelle how to i actually locate the game file when i press the thing

#

cause i cant find it

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 11:15 PM

#

what does this mean

#

command-shift-g

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 11:15 PM

#

ok

#

i cant open the hollow knight folder

#

tf

#

@copper nacelle

#

look

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-11-19_at_6.16.09_PM.png

#

i cant press open

copper nacelle Nov 19, 2020, 11:18 PM

#

interesting

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 11:21 PM

#

idk what to do

languid goblet Nov 19, 2020, 11:22 PM

#

show package contents?

sleek palm Nov 19, 2020, 11:23 PM

#

i cant

languid goblet Nov 19, 2020, 11:44 PM

#

huh

languid goblet Nov 20, 2020, 12:25 AM

#

oh yeah i've got the same issue now

copper nacelle Nov 20, 2020, 4:15 AM

#

yeah i eat sand

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 4:27 AM

#

Oh wow

dark wigeon Nov 20, 2020, 4:31 AM

#

ok but why does it say Button

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 4:31 AM

#

Because we need to make sure that Button

dark wigeon Nov 20, 2020, 4:32 AM

#

ok

#

wow remember fsm view avalonia I need to finish that

copper nacelle Nov 20, 2020, 4:57 AM

#

🙂

📎 unknown.png

weak lodge Nov 20, 2020, 6:25 AM

#

surely is AppData\Local\JetBrains\Toolbox\apps\Rider\ch-0\203.5600.6\plugins\dpa...

ornate rivet Nov 20, 2020, 11:25 AM

#

what are you making this form in 56?

safe hamlet Nov 20, 2020, 11:29 AM

#

avalonia

ornate rivet Nov 20, 2020, 12:53 PM

#

oh ok

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 PM

#

dark wigeon wow remember fsm view avalonia I need to finish that

Oh yeah I was going to help with that

toxic mantle Nov 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

Mod installer 2? When did that came out.

#

*?

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

#

Long time ago

#

Now it’s been updated to a more usable state tho

toxic mantle Nov 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

Is the regular modinstaller still usable?

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

Yes

#

This just works on all devices afaik

toxic mantle Nov 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

Okay.

copper nacelle Nov 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

approximately june 26th

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

Hello!

toxic mantle Nov 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

Im having a conwersation with strangers on the internet. This is so strange.

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

Your first time?

toxic mantle Nov 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

#

Not realy.

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

#

lol

toxic mantle Nov 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

#

But it makes me nervous.

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

#

I mean, strangers did make hk, the mod installer, and the mods for hk

toxic mantle Nov 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

But i did not have to converse with them.

#

Im sweating too mutch. i have to stop. Goodbye.

vocal spire Nov 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

K

#

But you have the programs made by those strangers access to your pc

#

Not that they do anything bad

copper nacelle Nov 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

#

questionable

solemn rivet Nov 21, 2020, 5:31 AM

#

I mean

#

speak for yourself

vocal spire Nov 21, 2020, 5:45 AM

#

shroompog finally recreated all original items

📎 unknown.png

warm copper Nov 21, 2020, 5:46 AM

#

Woah

vocal spire Nov 21, 2020, 5:47 AM

#

I think it's actually done at this point!

#

just a little bit of tweaking, and itemhelper has pages of items!

#

it also involved remaking the core mechanics of how it works, but who cares

fair rampart Nov 21, 2020, 8:27 AM

#

What is the mod for?

jolly oriole Nov 21, 2020, 12:24 PM

#

Helping with items

vocal spire Nov 21, 2020, 12:40 PM

#

help I went to sleep while coding

#

FINALLY I GOT ADDING RELICS TO LEMM WORKING AGAIN

vocal spire Nov 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

#

shroompog

📎 unknown.png

little juniper Nov 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

#

hi

vocal spire Nov 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

#

hello

little juniper Nov 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

#

anyone knos where can i find the gun mod ?

#

*knows

vocal spire Nov 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

#

#archived-modding-help

#

it's called hollow point

#

you can get it from either of the mod installers

little juniper Nov 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

#

oh ok, thanks

vocal spire Nov 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

#

just remember this channel is for the development of mods

little juniper Nov 21, 2020, 4:05 PM

#

ok, srry

vocal spire Nov 22, 2020, 1:49 AM

#

just found out why my playerdata int set call has been lost between PlayerDataIntAdd.OnEnter and PlayerData.SetIntInternal

bool flag = ReflectionHelper.GetField(typeof(PlayerData), intName, true) != null;

#

should be a easy On fix

versed moat Nov 22, 2020, 12:52 PM

#

;i

vocal spire Nov 22, 2020, 1:17 PM

#

versed moat ;i

?

jolly oriole Nov 22, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

uh, does anybody know how i could monomod patch a sealed class?

copper nacelle Nov 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

#

yeah

#

just don't inherit

jolly oriole Nov 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

#

hm, ok

vocal spire Nov 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

#

What do you plan to do?

jolly oriole Nov 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

#

trying to patch UnityEngine.CoreModule, to make things like sprite replacements easier

vocal spire Nov 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

#

Ok

#

Like a method on spriterenderer?

jolly oriole Nov 22, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

a hook for Texture2D

vocal spire Nov 22, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

Oh ok

#

~~Is it going to be used with the modding api?~~

jolly oriole Nov 22, 2020, 7:39 PM

#

idk yet

vocal spire Nov 22, 2020, 7:39 PM

#

Idk where I was going with that question. I kept thinking of what I wanted to edit it to then I couldn’t remember