#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 451

vale zenith Jul 23, 2019, 7:44 PM

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And when we handed them modding support on a silver platter they were like "Nah"

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so I'm still miffed

unborn flicker Jul 23, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Treatment like that is rather annoying, I definitely get it

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OTOH, it does mean more power to us

vale zenith Jul 23, 2019, 7:45 PM

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They are literally the only developers I know with that attitude and it's really weird to me

unborn flicker Jul 23, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Like, to draw from the speedrunning side, the fact that TC put no effort into the timer whatsoever is somewhat liberating, because it forced the community to use a custom loadremover which we can change as new stuff comes up

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But a fully functional loadless timer would've been far better in the first place

vale zenith Jul 23, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Yeah

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Hey, you made the rando 2.0, right?

unborn flicker Jul 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Sean is the one who made rando 2

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insofar as porting it to Lifeblood

vale zenith Jul 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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But Sean also made the first rando with me, why do I think you made the rando?

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Oh, did you do the room?

unborn flicker Jul 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Yeah

vale zenith Jul 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Alright, makes sense

unborn flicker Jul 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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I've been working on it for the last two months or so

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Adding more items/features/modes

vale zenith Jul 23, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Mind if I hit you up about a thing?

unborn flicker Jul 23, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Sure

haughty spade Jul 23, 2019, 7:48 PM

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well I am glad at least the modding scene's a little better than I was initially led to believe

hexed heron Jul 23, 2019, 9:35 PM

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how do I install that multiplayer mod you guys where talking about?

copper nacelle Jul 23, 2019, 9:38 PM

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x5fiftPrime

solar jacinth Jul 23, 2019, 9:39 PM

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maggotprime

copper nacelle Jul 23, 2019, 9:45 PM

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It's not even close to playable

solar jacinth Jul 23, 2019, 9:54 PM

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sadly

haughty spade Jul 23, 2019, 9:56 PM

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oh

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ok then

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I will wait though!

solar jacinth Jul 23, 2019, 9:57 PM

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gl waiting forever

copper nacelle Jul 23, 2019, 10:12 PM

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@unborn flicker

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😤

solar jacinth Jul 23, 2019, 10:14 PM

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qol is so good that even homothety cant uninstall it

unborn flicker Jul 23, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Perfection ok_grimm

viral tendon Jul 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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I have to use modsys to create a hollow knight mod ?

copper nacelle Jul 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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what

viral tendon Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Module System

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I think it's a program

copper nacelle Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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no

viral tendon Jul 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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I'm reading a bit i don't know how to create a hollow knight mod

rain cedar Jul 23, 2019, 11:56 PM

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You need visual studio or rider

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Mods are just .net libraries

viral tendon Jul 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Ok but at the moment to test the mod i use the mod carpet ?

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:04 AM

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what

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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mod carpet

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the fuck

viral tendon Jul 24, 2019, 12:07 AM

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The mod installer creates a carpet called mods

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Folder...?

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Yes you put your built mod in the mods folder

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also what

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Java

viral tendon Jul 24, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Sry it's my first time

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And i don't speak english

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Yeah, I figured you weren't a native speaker

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That's fine

viral tendon Jul 24, 2019, 12:26 AM

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I'm trying yo get better

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Here's an example of a very simple mod class

public class SampleMod : Mod
{
    private readonly Random _rnd = new Random();

    public override void Initialize()
    {
        ModHooks.Instance.HeroUpdateHook += RandomAttack;
    }

    private void RandomAttack()
    {
        PlayerData.instance.nailDamage = _rnd.Next(5, 40);
        PlayMakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("UPDATE NAIL DAMAGE");
    }
}```

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It randomizes attack damage

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You'll have to use a format something like this

viral tendon Jul 24, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Yea i programmed basic things in unity

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Thx

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Does it have to be visual studio or could another coding program work

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Rider works

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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you could use whatever but building is easiest via rider or vs

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Or other ones probably

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Not sure what others even exist

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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otherwise you'd have to run msbuild via cli

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i guess vs code

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Sounds terrible

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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it is

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Doesn't support building

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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it does

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idk why

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i thought that's what the tutorial meant when it said vs

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so i used it for like a day

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at first

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Oh

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I've only ever used it for js programming

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 12:33 AM

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I don’t know what a .net library is

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:33 AM

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same but also haskell

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:34 AM

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It's a compiled C# dll

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C#/visual basic .net/whatever

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But use C#

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 12:34 AM

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So once I get a file into a readable format I can just edit and overwrite it?

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:35 AM

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No

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You shouldn't be editing dlls

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Use visual studio/rider to compile a new one

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Ok so make a copy and edit that

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And save the original elsewhere or in comment form

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:36 AM

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No don't make a copy of anything

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Just make a new project for your mod

safe hamlet Jul 24, 2019, 12:37 AM

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imagine not using notepad to write code :^)

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:37 AM

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I mean I use notepad++ for python

safe hamlet Jul 24, 2019, 12:37 AM

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notepad++ has syntax highlighting prolly which is lame, bare notepad is where it's at 😤

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Ok buddy

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 12:38 AM

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But if I make a completely new file and keep the old one there how will the new one take priority

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:38 AM

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what

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I guess you're trying to make changes directly in Assembly-CSharp

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There is a mod API to avoid this

viral tendon Jul 24, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Atom has c#?

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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If the files are not edited and not disabled, the original code will still run won’t it

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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They are edited

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That is the API

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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atom has c# but don't do that

safe hamlet Jul 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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atom is garbage

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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vs code -1.0

safe hamlet Jul 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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uses too much space

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and memory

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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the API loads mods from Managed/Mods so you build your own dlls

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and then don't have to overwrite the normal game

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therefore allowing compatibility between mods

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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I see how that is efficient, but for learning purposes I like to start from the ground up

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 12:43 AM

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All that time spent cropping all the sprites and it's shaky, sigh...

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rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:45 AM

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That should be pretty easy to fix though

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All it needs is some padding on the frames that are offset

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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won't it be different for each sprite though (there's 40 of them)

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Probably, yeah

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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nice

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 1:17 AM

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so I'm going to mod directly first for learning purposes

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I'm pretty lost in the assembly

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managed\Assembly-CSharp.dll is where I should be right

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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yes

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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from there it is pretty confusing where everything is located

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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yes

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 1:22 AM

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how would I find something like player nail damage

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:22 AM

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PlayerData.instance.nailDamage

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iirc

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 1:24 AM

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ah ok, it seems i have to be inside <root namespace>

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:25 AM

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yes

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Are you using dnSpy?

slow lotus Jul 24, 2019, 1:25 AM

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dotPeek

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:25 AM

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understandable

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it should have a search regardless

brazen mortar Jul 24, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Godhome and White Palace have been added to the drive folder of scene names

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Ah, the other day 56 showed the maps to someone, and I noticed Crossroads was missing a room

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brazen mortar Jul 24, 2019, 1:36 AM

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what

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:36 AM

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it is the grub room

brazen mortar Jul 24, 2019, 1:36 AM

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that's one room

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wait no

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right

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whoops

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:36 AM

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gaming

brazen mortar Jul 24, 2019, 1:36 AM

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ill fix that

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forgot there was a dumb goam room right before

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useless room

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:37 AM

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iri

brazen mortar Jul 24, 2019, 1:37 AM

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darn i just quit out of the game too

floral furnace Jul 24, 2019, 1:37 AM

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pensive

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:39 AM

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might be 35

brazen mortar Jul 24, 2019, 1:40 AM

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it is

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fixed it

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 1:42 AM

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nice

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 7:39 AM

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@ornate rivet wait what are you making now 👀

gilded lotus Jul 24, 2019, 9:02 AM

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importing shovel knight boss to HK since he ran out of money to pay you

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 9:13 AM

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Saleh were you supposed to be paying me

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Where is my money

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 9:26 AM

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milliS milliS

floral furnace Jul 24, 2019, 9:29 AM

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imagine not even starting a gofundme at this point

solar jacinth Jul 24, 2019, 9:41 AM

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kickstarter pc mods when

fair rampart Jul 24, 2019, 10:59 AM

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anyone have suggestions on which mods I should use? I have no idea what 90% of them do as i can't find the mod pages.

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like wtf is chaos mod

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 11:00 AM

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iirc chaos and art mods are memes

fair rampart Jul 24, 2019, 11:01 AM

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makes sense.

floral furnace Jul 24, 2019, 11:04 AM

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its in the pins

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xRcL7LJHQbN_lpNYWKYggGA_st0ewnLd1s5X20ukD7s

Google Docs

Mod Summaries

Key Functional ChangesAsset ChangesQuality of LifeHelpersModding/Speedrunning API Mods Exaltation: Overhauls charms, implementing unused “charm glorification” concept teased prior to Godmaster. Charms are buffed by completing Pantheons in Godhome, making them much st...

fair rampart Jul 24, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Oh dope. Thank you.

manic raptor Jul 24, 2019, 11:10 AM

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what are the best HK mods ?

floral furnace Jul 24, 2019, 11:11 AM

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always a subjective answer, pick what you want

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that said most commonly taken is rando, but if you want harder bosses well tons

leaden hedge Jul 24, 2019, 11:12 AM

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ones by me, or based off ones by me zoteintense

floral furnace Jul 24, 2019, 11:12 AM

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hmmmmmmmmmmm

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 11:12 AM

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ngg anniversary edition when

leaden hedge Jul 24, 2019, 11:12 AM

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don't call me out thanks

floral furnace Jul 24, 2019, 11:12 AM

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nah thats for the silksong port dummy

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 11:12 AM

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h

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kt it is my job to call you out

leaden hedge Jul 24, 2019, 11:14 AM

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i do not like it, please cease nyangry

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 11:14 AM

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beesive

honest iris Jul 24, 2019, 4:32 PM

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no one's done a gold/godmaster color theme for CustomKnight, right? at least i didn't find one in the google drive. planning on making one though i admit there's an overwhelming amount of sprites to edit for how long it takes to remove all the dark blue accents all over the knight's body.

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 4:39 PM

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nope, no one has done that

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and good luck

honest iris Jul 24, 2019, 4:41 PM

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aye

weak lodge Jul 24, 2019, 5:13 PM

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i was gonna do one then burnout happened yay!

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well by godmaster i mean a recolor

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not like actually put godseeker crest on sprite

weak tusk Jul 24, 2019, 5:14 PM

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I hope I’m not interrupting anything, but I have a question: Is there a Hollow Knight mod database? Like, a general collection of a bunch of mods that have been made?

silk jetty Jul 24, 2019, 5:15 PM

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and pins

weak tusk Jul 24, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Oh damn, cool. Thank you!

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I will ask, though... why isn’t there already an external site or Google Drive, and why isn’t it called “Modhome” lmao

weak lodge Jul 24, 2019, 5:17 PM

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honest iris Jul 24, 2019, 5:18 PM

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@weak lodge yeah i'm only doing a recolor as well

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my strength is editing, not drawing

weak lodge Jul 24, 2019, 5:19 PM

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im not doing one

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i scrapped it a while back

honest iris Jul 24, 2019, 5:19 PM

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alright, "i'm only doing a recolor like you were"

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pepothumbs

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 5:19 PM

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knightmere you said you would mod during summer

weak lodge Jul 24, 2019, 5:19 PM

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yea i did

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but like my self esteem my drive to do anything is nonexisten

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t

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 5:20 PM

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relatable

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 5:20 PM

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oh shit same

honest iris Jul 24, 2019, 5:22 PM

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this has to be the longest thing i've ever planned on doing that wasn't for work/studying so i'm not making any promises either LULW

weak lodge Jul 24, 2019, 5:23 PM

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this summer would make it a year i cease being productive because lack of will

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pog

honest iris Jul 24, 2019, 5:23 PM

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FeelsRainMan

jovial vault Jul 24, 2019, 5:32 PM

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:<

thin bolt Jul 24, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Is there even 1 video showing how making mods for HK works?

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 5:53 PM

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no

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well

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If you count streams ig there's some

thin bolt Jul 24, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Can you link me those if you can?

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 5:55 PM

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it appears the vods have all died

thin bolt Jul 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Oh

vale zenith Jul 24, 2019, 6:54 PM

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@thin bolt https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding There are docs in there, they are probably not super comprehensive, but that's the best you're gonna get

GitHub

seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding

Contribute to seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding development by creating an account on GitHub.

thin bolt Jul 24, 2019, 6:55 PM

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thx

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Also among the incomplete modding guides: https://radiance.host/apidocs

vale zenith Jul 24, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Oh, nice

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Yeah KT made them

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Yeah, it was really helpful when I was getting started with benchwarp for the first time

gilded lotus Jul 24, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Wow is that @vale zenith the guy who made al those racing games

vale zenith Jul 24, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Wat?

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You are probably thinking of somebody else

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I made the first rando and the first modding API with Sean

gilded lotus Jul 24, 2019, 7:07 PM

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It’s u

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vale zenith Jul 24, 2019, 7:08 PM

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oh I see, a shitpost

gilded lotus Jul 24, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Can I get an autograph? Big fan

leaden hedge Jul 24, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Thank you for your high quality contributions to modding zaliant, very cool

gilded lotus Jul 24, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Thanks Katie always a pleasure to meet big names of great renown here on the hollow knight discord server. Hope to lift everyone’s spirits up by being everyone’s big fan

vale zenith Jul 24, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Fun fact. Shit like this is exactly the kind of thing that makes me not generally be around. So thanks for being such a great supporter.

safe hamlet Jul 24, 2019, 7:25 PM

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np

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 7:36 PM

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This is from the scene dumps. Is there an easy way to figure out what bools they're checking?

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safe hamlet Jul 24, 2019, 7:39 PM

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https://markoth.is-pretty.sexy/3Ut9BfU.png

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o wait

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boolName

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err i don't think so, you would need to manually check it by logging

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Well, yes, but it can't find the gameobject because I can't figure out the spawn conditions maggotprime

safe hamlet Jul 24, 2019, 7:40 PM

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maggotprime

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 7:42 PM

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You could modify modcommon's scene dumper

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But you can also just call GetRootGameobjects or whatever on the scene object

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Thanks!

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Figures benchwarp was to blame

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The title cards can lock you into a bench, so I set all of them true for unlock all benches

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 8:09 PM

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how easy is it to modify pre-existing enemy behaviors

leaden hedge Jul 24, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Wouldn't say it was hard or easy

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Most of the research on how to do it has already been done with boss mods

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So as long as you can figure how they work, you should be able to edit enemies

amber plank Jul 24, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Hey so what is the "tracker" mentioned in pinned messages

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 9:35 PM

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ah I was just asking if it was possible to make nosk not suck

solar jacinth Jul 24, 2019, 9:44 PM

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sigh

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 10:11 PM

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A serious modding channel would be very nice. Shitposts are occasionally funny, but most of them are just disruptive and annoying

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Especially the random modding ideas with no effort

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 10:17 PM

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yes

iron crown Jul 24, 2019, 10:19 PM

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you mean incredible upcoming mods like cherry madness

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Isn't modding 2 supposed to be where all the shitposts go?

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Doesn't seem to work out that way

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 10:44 PM

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sorry I didn't mean it like that

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I meant moreso like, just improve or tweak the boss to make him less of a pushover than he is

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even something as simple as translating him to winged nosk after beating "phase 1"

young walrus Jul 24, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Winged nosk is more of a joke than regular nosk

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 10:53 PM

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true, but still, having to go through two meh phases would be more interesting than a single meh one

solar jacinth Jul 24, 2019, 11:08 PM

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" a serious modding channel " maggotprime you want impossible chief

fair rampart Jul 24, 2019, 11:09 PM

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A serious modding channel is physically impossible to make

rain cedar Jul 24, 2019, 11:13 PM

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It's not impossible

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Just stop posting garbage, assholes

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:13 PM

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:( I'm sorry

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 11:13 PM

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tfw people who don't make mods tell us serious modding is impossible hollowwheeze

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:13 PM

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I'll stop posting here if my ideas are problematic

solar jacinth Jul 24, 2019, 11:13 PM

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np

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omggrub

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kind words

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 11:13 PM

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well the description does say you can discuss modding ideas

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I think some of the problems could be solved by splitting this channel

solar jacinth Jul 24, 2019, 11:14 PM

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also homothety how do you knwo i never made any mods for hk smh

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me ad the boys are making ss demo

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is that enough

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😤

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Really, it would be better as modding-help, modding-discussion, modding-development, in that order

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That way people will click on the first one and go to the right place

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:15 PM

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That's a good idea

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Push it to #573068857682558986

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I want my #archived-modding-development-gallery

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:16 PM

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@ornate rivet you mean like a channel for holding a list of mods?

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 11:16 PM

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a channel where you post clips and art of your latest modding creations

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:17 PM

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that would probably be #archived-modding-development-development then

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Also have you guys considered getting a gamebanana?

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 11:18 PM

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I think a channel with combined answering questions about making mods and displaying progress in mods would work

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:19 PM

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not to tell you guys how to go about your work but I think it'd be less primitive than a google doc

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 11:19 PM

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There isn't a huge glut of those two things

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 11:19 PM

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that's a fair point mister homo

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:20 PM

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I know a guy who could probably get a hollow knight section but eh, it's up to you

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 11:21 PM

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why would we want that when we have the modinstaller

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:21 PM

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does the modinstaller pull from like its own online database or something?

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 11:22 PM

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from google drive

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:22 PM

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ah

copper nacelle Jul 24, 2019, 11:22 PM

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gdrive/github

haughty spade Jul 24, 2019, 11:22 PM

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I guess there's no need for a gamebanana then

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nevermind!

unborn flicker Jul 24, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I'll crosspost that idea to #573068857682558986 in a little bit then, unless anyone has objections I guess

ornate rivet Jul 24, 2019, 11:29 PM

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why would anyone not want more modding channels

magic briar Jul 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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What sort of mods exist for this game?

silk jetty Jul 25, 2019, 2:20 AM

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and pins

magic briar Jul 25, 2019, 2:20 AM

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So mods only work on Windows?

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There's no way to run mods on Linux?

fair rampart Jul 25, 2019, 2:20 AM

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**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

Open the Terminal
Type cd $(dirname
Drag the exe onto the terminal.
Type ) then hit Return/Enter
Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

install mono here
Open a new terminal window
Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
Repeat steps 2-6 above.

silk jetty Jul 25, 2019, 2:20 AM

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what

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uh idk

magic briar Jul 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Can I run mods on Linux?

silk jetty Jul 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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but #archived-modding-help

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Is there any reason to use the is keyword over == for comparing against a constant?

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It looks like it's just == but the other side being a constant is more obvious

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which isn't hard to see if the naming isn't garbage

safe hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 5:34 AM

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== is overloadable

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also wdym against a constant?

unborn flicker Jul 25, 2019, 5:34 AM

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You can use is to test an object against constants of different types

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that's what the internet told me dableft

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safe hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 5:36 AM

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ah

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yea

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well is is most of the times better tho

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since == is overloadable, you don't always exactly know it's behaviour

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if you know the behaviour isn't changed, then == is just fine

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also why do i keep putting u in behavior

rain cedar Jul 25, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Avoiding overloads isn't really a good thing

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For Unity objects, doing "whatever is null" won't work properly

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Because "null" Unity stuff isn't actually null

safe hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 5:39 AM

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right, i guess my wording is off

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i mean if the overloaded behavior is what you want, it makes sense to use it

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no wait, for constant it just doesn't matter https://markoth.is-pretty.sexy/6S9GVBj.png maggotprime

rain cedar Jul 25, 2019, 5:49 AM

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I think that makes sense, though

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Constants are always primitives

safe hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 5:49 AM

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yea i think so too

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maggotprime is just because i thought there was a difference

gaunt geyser Jul 25, 2019, 11:43 AM

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my first time doing double vessel and damn it's amazing

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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when I make a new project, what project type am I supposed to use?
I always pick empty project and then change the csproject file to match other mods

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@copper nacelle

leaden hedge Jul 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Theres a DLL one

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Pick that one

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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yes

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Class Library

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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ok

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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nice

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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thanks

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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VS might support templates

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I'd recommend making one of it does

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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ok

compact sedge Jul 25, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I still cannot get used to overriding =

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It feels so wrong

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 5:05 PM

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but it's ==

safe hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 5:21 PM

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wdym it feels so wrong

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 6:59 PM

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why does this only return the bool
Log("go is " + go != null);

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 7:02 PM

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()

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operator precedence

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has higher precedence/binds stronger than !=

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so you'd get ("go is {go.ToString()}") != null

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or

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True

prisma hollow Jul 25, 2019, 7:12 PM

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any boss rush mod flying around?

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GWcmeisterPeepoLove

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 7:16 PM

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eeeeee ok thanks mister 56.

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Yes, the boss rush mod is called godseeker mode.

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even has some new bosses

gilded lotus Jul 25, 2019, 7:18 PM

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well there is omnes deorum

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 7:19 PM

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doesn't that randomize the in game boss rush?

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 7:19 PM

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yes

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I should fix kt's boss rush

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 7:20 PM

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yes

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 7:20 PM

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I like it more than the pantheons

prisma hollow Jul 25, 2019, 7:20 PM

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so which one should i get?

safe hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 7:20 PM

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is there a video of old boss rush?

gilded lotus Jul 25, 2019, 7:21 PM

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if you want a boss rush, there's one in the game, if you want a mod for the boss rush, omnes deorum

young walrus Jul 25, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Probably somewhere in the depths of YouTube

prisma hollow Jul 25, 2019, 7:21 PM

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yes i want the mod

young walrus Jul 25, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Could probably even find Keins version if you dig

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 7:21 PM

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that's the first one that comes

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smh

young walrus Jul 25, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Omnes deorem is the pantheons

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Just randomized

copper nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 7:22 PM

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kein's version elderC

young walrus Jul 25, 2019, 7:22 PM

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The pantheon's are the boss rush

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Team cherry added that

solar jacinth Jul 25, 2019, 8:12 PM

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kein maggotprime

nimble lake Jul 25, 2019, 8:28 PM

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What are the IDs of the charms?

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I can't find the dlc ones

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 8:28 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462200562620825600/548520742246154260/charmID.png

nimble lake Jul 25, 2019, 8:28 PM

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ty

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 8:28 PM

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please check pins next time

nimble lake Jul 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

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yea i forgot it was there, ty

solar jacinth Jul 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

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another fellow modder

wintry rune Jul 25, 2019, 9:17 PM

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homothety your mod is broken

weak lodge Jul 25, 2019, 9:17 PM

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look down

hollow pier Jul 25, 2019, 9:18 PM

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homothety

📎 468767507549913088.png

torpid kraken Jul 25, 2019, 9:21 PM

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;mod

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is that not the right command?

solar jacinth Jul 25, 2019, 9:23 PM

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maggotprime

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@torpid kraken

torpid kraken Jul 25, 2019, 9:23 PM

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I appreciate it

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Sorry

wintry rune Jul 25, 2019, 9:25 PM

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my seed was 175480749 i back tracked from black egg and it was all dead ends

solar jacinth Jul 25, 2019, 9:27 PM

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sad

median patrol Jul 25, 2019, 9:34 PM

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What are some mods do make the game more difficult ( aside from glass soul)?

gilded lotus Jul 25, 2019, 9:37 PM

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mod summaries in the 📌

solar jacinth Jul 25, 2019, 9:51 PM

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summaries

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;summaries

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fuck

fair rampart Jul 25, 2019, 9:51 PM

#

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

solar jacinth Jul 25, 2019, 9:51 PM

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her

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e

gilded lotus Jul 25, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Does SeanprCore have other uses besides Randomizer compatibility?

feral mist Jul 25, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Is there a way to use the debug mod to hide the hud, but without any cheat options. I like to get some cool screenshots, but I don't trust myself with the power of debug :).

gilded lotus Jul 25, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Delete key

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and if it's not bound, bind it https://puu.sh/DXmQQ/6072101c3b.png

young walrus Jul 25, 2019, 10:33 PM

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all the keybinds are listed in the middle box on the screen

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click through the pages

gilded lotus Jul 25, 2019, 10:34 PM

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https://puu.sh/DXmTE/25e22508f9.png are these just outdated on the mod sum's doc

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or is it in relation to the drive

formal beacon Jul 25, 2019, 10:53 PM

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is there a multiplayer hollow knight mod?

feral mist Jul 25, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Theres a mod that lets a second player control the dream shield

gilded lotus Jul 25, 2019, 10:58 PM

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https://github.com/seanpr96/Multiworld/releases

GitHub

seanpr96/Multiworld

Contribute to seanpr96/Multiworld development by creating an account on GitHub.

nimble lake Jul 25, 2019, 11:05 PM

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yo does hk has an ingame cheat manager?

📎 Screenshot_3.png

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 11:10 PM

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yes

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it sucks

gilded lotus Jul 25, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Re-did the mod summaries : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gqAd1y3xbNnNY2XWUZ7j6n1LX8FNdMj2zeoclSOTLyM/edit?usp=sharing

lemme know if i missed anything

Google Docs

Copy of Mod Summaries

Legend Functional ChangesAsset ChangesQuality of LifeHelpersModding/Speedrunning Boss Mod ModInstaller Mods ‘Art’ Mods: Not intended for serious use Shitmothst: Procedurally generated dashes (read: breaks the game) Nukememe: Modifies ending cutscene for Redwing mod I...

deft epoch Jul 25, 2019, 11:24 PM

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oh sweet you can mod hollow knight

safe hamlet Jul 25, 2019, 11:28 PM

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unfortunately, you can

ornate rivet Jul 25, 2019, 11:51 PM

#

https://youtu.be/fuFTmh14Xo4

YouTube

Hir Ngolwe

Cutest Buggo of them All | Modding Maladies

Pretend I put in more effort and Elderbug's voice is replaced with ear-rape in this video.

▶ Play video

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I did it Sid

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after many months

fair rampart Jul 26, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Are there any minimap mods? I didn't see one on the list but I feel like that'd be a no-brainer.

young walrus Jul 26, 2019, 12:06 AM

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there was one

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but it sucked up resources like crazy

fair rampart Jul 26, 2019, 12:06 AM

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aww

young walrus Jul 26, 2019, 12:06 AM

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you can move around holding the quick map key though

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it's not the same

fair rampart Jul 26, 2019, 12:07 AM

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no dashing makes it basically useless

young walrus Jul 26, 2019, 12:07 AM

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just memorize the map

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ez

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mickelSmug

fair rampart Jul 26, 2019, 12:07 AM

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I have it up on my second monitor, just annoying if I forget where I was.

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Thanks anyway

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

brazen mortar Jul 26, 2019, 12:52 AM

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should you just

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replace the old mod summaries link

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and edit that message

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instead of pinning it again

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now there's two mod summaries pinned

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 12:54 AM

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wrong

brazen mortar Jul 26, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

AngryBork

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ur wrong

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 12:56 AM

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false

brazen mortar Jul 26, 2019, 12:56 AM

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incorrect

analog wyvern Jul 26, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Anyone know how much damage spikes are programmed to do to enemies?

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 2:01 AM

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100/hit

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iirc

analog wyvern Jul 26, 2019, 2:14 AM

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thank you

brazen mortar Jul 26, 2019, 2:31 AM

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That would mean bosses don’t die to spikes

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But doesn’t staggered soul master die to spikes @copper nacelle?

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When you knock him into the ones on the roof

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 2:36 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I remember it doing 100 to cg2

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ik it def doesn't instakill tyrant

steep zenith Jul 26, 2019, 3:43 AM

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how do i install mods

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which mod should i start out with

unkempt agate Jul 26, 2019, 3:45 AM

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;help

steep zenith Jul 26, 2019, 3:48 AM

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what is debug mod

fair rampart Jul 26, 2019, 3:57 AM

#

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

young walrus Jul 26, 2019, 3:57 AM

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debug mod deletes the game

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and all its bugs

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mickelSmug

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 5:05 AM

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Can you trigger Gruz Mother from outside the arena?

rain cedar Jul 26, 2019, 5:06 AM

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no

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 5:06 AM

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With all these questions about Lightbringer, I got to be wondering about whether you could spiketunnel to get gwomb and then poke her through the gate

rain cedar Jul 26, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Muzznik might work because it's modded idk

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 5:13 AM

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ok

safe hamlet Jul 26, 2019, 5:13 AM

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ok

rain cedar Jul 26, 2019, 5:13 AM

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buddy

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 5:35 AM

#

Anyone know what causes the "Entered player dead!" logs?
I'm trying to figure out why Benchwarp doesn't trigger ActiveSceneChanged when it calls ready for respawn.

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Api log

rain cedar Jul 26, 2019, 5:36 AM

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It's in the death event hook

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Shouldn't be there but eh

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Debug log somebody never removed

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 5:37 AM

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ah, that's what I'd figured

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Hmmm, actually this may not be a Benchwarp bug after all

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I must have confused myself when testing

#

It looks like the problem is actually dying/warping back to the same room

rain cedar Jul 26, 2019, 6:20 AM

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That shouldn't be an issue, though

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Randomizer uses activeSceneChanged with no issues

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Good example is the shade skip in mound

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The gate would come back if the hook wasn't called

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 6:21 AM

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Good point

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I've had trouble pinpointing exactly what is breaking Leg Eater's shop

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but right now, it consistently breaks from warping/dying inroom, and not from outside

rain cedar Jul 26, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Odd

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That's not a big deal, though

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You can't die in the leg eater room and there's not really any reason to warp when you're already there

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I guess you could fix it on the bench warp side if you really wanted to

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By having a special case to not reload the room if you're already there, I mean

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 6:26 AM

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I've had a few people report the bug, and I'd thought they'd gotten the bug by warping from other places to Leg Eater. But if I can't get it to happen that way, it's not really worth the hassle of fixing

rain cedar Jul 26, 2019, 6:27 AM

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What if you quit out to the leg eater bench?

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 6:27 AM

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loading in from the menu is fine

rain cedar Jul 26, 2019, 6:27 AM

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I see

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 6:28 AM

#

Your point about Ancestral Mound is interesting though

#

The reason why I blamed ActiveSceneChanged is that same room warping in the Black Egg reenables the completion percentage tablet, which I also disabled in MiscSceneChanges

#

Might be a weird load order issue or something

#

Ok, yeah, Benchwarp works fine with ASC. The randomizer edits must just not be going through for some reason

📎 unknown.png

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I've had issues with that before though, like the Crossroads room where calls to destroy infection objects would work entering from the top, but not from the left for some reason

full tartan Jul 26, 2019, 6:45 AM

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i wish someone made me in Hollow knighr

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 6:48 AM

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and i wish i was dead but we can't all get what we want

full tartan Jul 26, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Lol

lone rune Jul 26, 2019, 6:57 AM

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does anyone here know why the lightseeds in this room don't appear most of the time? 56 mentioned it might be some scenedata thing https://streamable.com/kwn54

Streamable

Hollow Knight 2019.07.25 - 03.49.28.02.DVR - Streamable

▶ Play video

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:00 AM

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do you know the scene name

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 7:01 AM

#

43

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:01 AM

#

chadmothety

#

yup that really is my favorite bool

📎 unknown.png

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ah it's crossroadsInfected

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 7:02 AM

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it's just infected

#

yeah

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:02 AM

#

killedInfectedKnight

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scene data

📎 unknown.png

gilded lotus Jul 26, 2019, 7:03 AM

#

so if you kill BV then go there it triggers once?

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:03 AM

#

i believe so

gilded lotus Jul 26, 2019, 7:03 AM

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i had tested that on a save where i handt killed BV and killed him then went there and it didn't happen GWchadMEGATHINK

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:04 AM

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no if you killed bv it kills itself

#

unkill bv

#

📎 unknown.png

lone rune Jul 26, 2019, 7:04 AM

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wait what

gilded lotus Jul 26, 2019, 7:04 AM

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i actually don't know how to interpret what you just said palehmm

lone rune Jul 26, 2019, 7:04 AM

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so they only appear there after killing a dreamer and then don't appear after killing Broken Vessel?

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

one time
don't have bv killed
kill a dreamer (or go oob to wings i guess)

gilded lotus Jul 26, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

what the fuck

lone rune Jul 26, 2019, 7:05 AM

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nice

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:05 AM

#

fun fact

#

the scuttlers on the way to bv

#

in the mawlek room

lone rune Jul 26, 2019, 7:06 AM

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so it's like the lightseeds in the room before Broken Vessel, they also disappear after

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

the place they go to

#

is just oob

#

they just fall into the abyss

gilded lotus Jul 26, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

that is an incredibly tedious check for some fucking light seeds

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:06 AM

#

yeah

lone rune Jul 26, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

is it possible they took the FSM of the lightseeds before broken vessel?

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

yeah

lone rune Jul 26, 2019, 7:07 AM

#

since the other lightseeds in infected crossroads don't have the same behavior

#

alright, thanks for checking this

gilded lotus Jul 26, 2019, 7:07 AM

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you're welcome

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:29 AM

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@unborn flicker reloading the same scene is why save states loads sly's basement

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when i didn't it would die

silent cairn Jul 26, 2019, 7:49 AM

#

there should be a mod that brings back mantis lord no. 4

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 7:49 AM

#

you

silent cairn Jul 26, 2019, 7:50 AM

#

?

gilded lotus Jul 26, 2019, 9:21 AM

#

if you want it, make it

fair rampart Jul 26, 2019, 3:28 PM

#

The randomizer mod is on modinstaller.exe, right?

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 3:37 PM

#

yes

fair rampart Jul 26, 2019, 3:37 PM

#

Ok

#

I downloaded randomizer 2 on it, but how do I get it to work in the game?

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 3:40 PM

#

What

fair rampart Jul 26, 2019, 3:40 PM

#

Wait

#

Is randomizer 2 not enemy randomizer

solar jacinth Jul 26, 2019, 3:41 PM

#

not

#

also

#

enemy rando

#

is

#

broken

#

enemy rando is broken

#

someone pin this

unborn flicker Jul 26, 2019, 3:47 PM

#

It is pinned in the correct channel 😤

#

There are actual important resources in the pins here

solar jacinth Jul 26, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

😤

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2019, 4:42 PM

#

charm id is in #archived-modding-help

copper nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

but the API docs are pinned

#

which has a charms page

#

with IDs and vars

ornate rivet Jul 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

you win this time spider-man

shy flame Jul 26, 2019, 6:24 PM

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maybe some modders might be intrested in making a mod that connects with twitch xephLurk
https://blog.twitch.tv/announcing-twitch-developer-jam-2019-7312c36dcaf7

Medium

Announcing Twitch Developer Jam: 2019!

Level up the Twitch community with game-matched Extensions

gilded lotus Jul 26, 2019, 7:11 PM

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What would you even want to connect with twitch

#

Player data tracker already exists

shy flame Jul 26, 2019, 7:26 PM

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maybe somebody has some crazy idea but yea... not much to make imo...
like charm info would be nice for speedrunners but that would break speedrunning rules? xephThink

young walrus Jul 26, 2019, 7:27 PM

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charm info?

#

and running with any modified game file is against the speedrunner rules

solar jacinth Jul 26, 2019, 9:58 PM

#

but still nice job!

digital plinth Jul 26, 2019, 11:58 PM

#

Hey. Any news on the multiplayer mod ?

ornate rivet Jul 27, 2019, 12:00 AM

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nope

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:01 AM

#

aww thank you

#

Is it dead tho ?

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:04 AM

#

@ 56#1363

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ask him

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:07 AM

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isn't he spammed by guys like me who want to know ? lol

hazy sentinel Jul 27, 2019, 12:10 AM

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lol

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:10 AM

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lol indeed

safe hamlet Jul 27, 2019, 12:12 AM

#

it is dead, yes

#

blame

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saleh

#

and 56 mostly

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:18 AM

#

👀

📎 moj.PNG

#

fool tc

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:28 AM

#

Ok so there's absolutely 0 possibility to play somewhat of a co-op with the current patch of HK ?

gilded lotus Jul 27, 2019, 12:29 AM

#

correct, it's local anyway, like it's not online multiplayer

#

there is an online randomizer though that you can play in the pins of #randomizer

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:30 AM

#

yes yes I was talking local ! but yeah thanks

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:30 AM

#

you have a sister/brother dont you

gilded lotus Jul 27, 2019, 12:31 AM

#

then yeah there's no way to play without downpatching

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:32 AM

#

in fact I have a closefriend that I cannot see very often and we both love this game. I'd love to do Godmaster with him so anytime I know he'll come I check the development of the co-op mod but if it's dead yeah

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:33 AM

#

hmm

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:43 AM

#

@digital plinth I haven't touched multiplayer in like 2 months

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:43 AM

#

touching GWczoneTentacles

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:43 AM

#

Sean made a dreamshield co op update thing which you might want to try ig

amber plank Jul 27, 2019, 12:44 AM

#

Yo so question, Is there a detailed explanation on the effects of charms in the "lightbringer" mod?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:44 AM

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no

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unless you count code

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:44 AM

#

What's the current state of the multiplayer, anyway?

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:44 AM

#

ask 753

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:44 AM

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bad

#

it's like basic movement

#

no attacks

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:44 AM

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That's something

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:44 AM

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transitions work though x5fiftPrime

#

yeah

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:45 AM

#

Attacking shouldn't be that hard to implement

#

And that's enough for a rudimentary version

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:45 AM

#

Yeah

#

https://streamable.com/d891v

Streamable

movement - Streamable

▶ Play video

#

Getting enemies to function at a basic level shouldn't even be bad either

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

woah

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:46 AM

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You could just override some fsm actions to choose the closest player

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

I'm guessing p2 can't dash or anything

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

Yes

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

yeah

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Alright

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Ohw thank you where can I find this sean update?

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

find what

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

dream shield

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coop

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

Oh

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

your dshield co op but Chad thing

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

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oh it's you sean right

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Idk file upload in #archived-modding-help somewhere

#

It's not a good enough mod to actually release

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 12:48 AM

#

576327909103632385

#

is the message id

#

mobile doesn't have a copy link thing

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 12:48 AM

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hmmmmmm

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Thanks I found it

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:49 AM

#

also i remember when sean added a new skin to that

#

sahde

#

shade

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

thank you so much sean

#

well i'm confused

#

the purpose is to control the shadow thing to deal damage and not to shield the player ?

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 1:00 AM

#

Yeah

#

There's another one I posted that has dreamshield instead

#

Still primarily a damage dealer but it can block projectiles

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 1:04 AM

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found it thank you

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ok but this one you keep the letter to move it did you make a version with the right stick ?

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it's ok i'm gonna map the key with steam. Well thnak you very much

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It deals the same damage as the nail ?

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 1:13 AM

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test it

digital plinth Jul 27, 2019, 1:25 AM

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yes

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 1:31 AM

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GWchadMEGATHINK

haughty spade Jul 27, 2019, 3:39 AM

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I understand if this would be considered piracy, but is there any rip of the music files?

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I'd like to get extracted versions of various lesser knowns themes in the game, such as a clean loop of grimm's inflation phase

brazen mortar Jul 27, 2019, 3:46 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoykZI-HU0

YouTube

Sumwan

Hollow Knight OST - The Grimm Troupe (Main + Epic layer)

Music that plays for the "flamespawner" attack of Troupe Master Grimm. Get the OST here: Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/916000/Hollow_Knight__Gods...

▶ Play video

haughty spade Jul 27, 2019, 3:59 AM

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oh

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thank you @lone rune

unborn tusk Jul 27, 2019, 4:00 AM

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b-bruh

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 6:03 AM

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bruh indeed

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 7:50 AM

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i feel super dumb

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ive been trying to get the randomizer mod working for almost 2 hours

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i have the modding api

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it says its installed

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idk whats wrong

gilded lotus Jul 27, 2019, 7:51 AM

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which randomizer

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the one from #randomizer or the g drive

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 7:53 AM

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g drive

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i could probably settle with the other one if i need to

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im just trying to shake things up

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 7:53 AM

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go to randomizer pins

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donwload that one

gilded lotus Jul 27, 2019, 7:54 AM

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the g drive was made for 1221 so yeah youll need the one from #randomizer

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just make sure you have seanprcore and benchwarp as well

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 7:54 AM

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ok

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randomizer 2.9 right?

gilded lotus Jul 27, 2019, 7:55 AM

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2.9.1

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 7:57 AM

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ok

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 8:12 AM

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alright this works just fine

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thank you guys

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ok now the game is crashing on startup

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even though it wasnt doing that seconds ago

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ugh

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im gonna reinstall everything

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ok its still crashing on startup

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idk how to fix this

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ok so it crashes if i have the mods installed now even though it didnt before

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if anyone has any ideas just dm me

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ok so

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the only things i messed with was after i got the mods working was the resolution and a controller setting that had beta next to it

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is there some way i can go in and undo this or something because i cant get the game to work with the mods installed

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ive tried reinstalling everything a few times now

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 8:57 AM

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ok

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just redownload or verify

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 8:58 AM

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ive done both

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it doesnt fix it

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ill gladly do it again and hope im wrong for now

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 8:58 AM

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what

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ho could it not work

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 8:58 AM

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idk

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 8:59 AM

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delete the saves

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 8:59 AM

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where do i do that

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 8:59 AM

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or move them from their current location

fair rampart Jul 27, 2019, 8:59 AM

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**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 8:59 AM

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maybe saves are modded too idk

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thats why

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try it

sudden forum Jul 27, 2019, 9:13 AM

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ok it actually opened

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i went to both locations and deleted everything

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then reinstalled it all

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probably more than what i should have dont but i was getting sick of this

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i dont really have anything to lose either

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thanks again

solar jacinth Jul 27, 2019, 9:20 AM

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np

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 1:13 PM

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will I still get achievements with mods?

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I just bought HK on steam (played a lot on switch) so I can play mods, but I don't really want to play vanilla for achievements as well

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and I want to have them anyway

floral furnace Jul 27, 2019, 1:15 PM

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yeah

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the game doesnt really check if the files are alterered or anything like other games

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then again it didnt have modding in mind to begin with, so go wild

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 1:16 PM

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ok great

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 1:49 PM

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the enemy randomizer doesn't seem to be working - am I doing something wrong or is it just broken

unborn quarry Jul 27, 2019, 1:51 PM

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it is broken rn

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I heard sometimes it works but don't count on it

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You should instead play with the other randomizers

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they are really fun too !

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 1:53 PM

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yeah that's fine

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 2:26 PM

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oh I think I might have got it to work

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if I load a save then turn it on and off in the mod options, then return to the menu it brings up the loading button

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except then it gets stuck at 94%

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it's a RAM issue apparently

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good thing I have 16GB

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except task manager tells me it's only using 3GB

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huh

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is there a memory cap on HK?

young walrus Jul 27, 2019, 2:40 PM

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That mod is broken

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 3:41 PM

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I think I might have fixed it

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ish

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or not

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ok this is very weird

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I rebuilt it with the current HK files from source

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and so it can now load fully

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however, the enemies are not randomized

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the areas are though

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even with the option off

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and you start in dirtmouth for some reason

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and if you go back to the main menu it doesn't exist

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but it's definitely got potential

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I kinda doubt that it has potential, seeing as it was made by Kerr 15 months ago

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but you never know

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 4:09 PM

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haha good point

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but it couldn't hurt to try

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 4:10 PM

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I mean it's probably not that bad to fix

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but like

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effort

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 4:11 PM

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effort soulpensive

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 4:40 PM

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much easier than I expected actually

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it had some new code for testing a new feature that was blocking all randomization logic

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so I just removed that

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although the title screen still breaks when you return to it

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and if you have the item randomizer installed you have to go through a kinda convoluted process to use the enemy randomizer as well

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but still, it works

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should I post the .dll somewhere?

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if so where

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 5:05 PM

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I can update the zip on the drive if you'd like

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:05 PM

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ok that would be great

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although as I said, there are still a few problems

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is that alright?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 5:06 PM

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That's fine

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Before you fixed it, it worked when it felt like it and people were ok enough with that

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Though I was considering removing it before this

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Maybe if you could put the bugs you experienced in a readme, Fireball?

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:07 PM

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yeah will do

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 5:07 PM

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hollowknice

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Enemy Randomizer literally crashes when I have QoL mod on otherwise its fime

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~~I wish I knew how to code so I could make Enemy Randomizer not crash at 94% with QoL~~

jovial vault Jul 27, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Learn to

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 5:35 PM

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56 can't defend himself from being trashed in modding because he is learning how to make tea

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This is so sad sadgrub

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 5:35 PM

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yhtsi

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rando kills enemy rando too

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so i'm going to assume this is not my problem

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I mean, I don't think it takes much of anything to kill enemy rando

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It's a fairly suicidal mod

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 5:36 PM

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you are not wrong

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Item randomizer pretty explicitly isn't compatible with enemy rando, but that doesn't stop people from trying anyways soulpensive

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I did it

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All I had to so was enter a game and go back to the main menu

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 5:37 PM

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it used to be tbf

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but then it died

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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yeah that's the solution I found

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but then it gets stuck at 94%

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Mine didnt

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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oh nice

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I rebuilt it for the current version of HK which seemed to fix it for me

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Apparently the current version works for some and not for others

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Wait you fixed enemy rando?!

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:43 PM

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yeah just now

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I'm just fixing a couple stray bugs and then it's going on the drive

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Cool

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~~In the new version QoL wont make enemy rando stop at 94% right or nah?~~

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:46 PM

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I don't think so

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I'll just test it

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it works for the item randomizer so I think it should be fine

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give me 5 mins to test something else though

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Ok

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:51 PM

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@unborn flicker you made a randomizer that can do area randomization right?

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Yes, that's right

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:52 PM

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good

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because now I can remove it from this

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it's causing significant issues

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Yeah, whatever Kerr was trying back then would be much more primitive than the area/room randomizer we have now, probably

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Since there wasn't much in the way of logic written for it at the time

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:53 PM

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yes, it seems to be

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It seems to be turning itself on regardless of the settings

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so I've just fully disabled the function that's doing it

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anyway I think it's ready now

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I'll just test with QoL

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@magic rover unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work with QoL

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still stuck at 94

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Oh

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 5:58 PM

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if you give me the dll i can try and fix it

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I'll just do a bit more testing by myself

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@magic rover did you get the enemy randomizer working fully (without QoL)?

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anyway I'll upload the data

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Also yes

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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huh

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that's surprising

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where did you get the dll?

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Modinstaller

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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weird

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it shouldn't work from there

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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All I had enabled was: CustomKnight, debug, item and enemy rando

jovial vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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56 do you not know how to make chai

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You are a disgrace in this family

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:03 PM

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bro

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chai tastes like trash

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i was just confirming that i was doing it right

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which i was

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still bad

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:03 PM

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should I just upload the files here?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:03 PM

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sure

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don't x me it's literally bad water

jovial vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Chai is bad

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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finally

ornate rivet Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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both of you go commit die

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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📎 Enemy_Randomizer.zip

jovial vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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You

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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gladly

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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I think I put the right version in there

jovial vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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56 you cant die

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I wont let you smh you must suffer

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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This is why we need #archived-modding-development-discussion, modding staff can't stay on topic when people are doing real modding work grimmpalm

jovial vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Fair enough, I’ll take my exit

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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nah, it's fine, not trying to be a jerk

jovial vault Jul 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Nah youre right, no offence taken

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:07 PM

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updated it

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updating qol is going to suck because it's halfway migrated to the new system

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guess I could stash the changes

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i forgot enemy rando doesn't use the preload system

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cursed

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I see no way that changing the item logic like this could possibly come back to haunt me

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copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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GWcorbinMonkaGIGA

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Well, time to drop another giant update without any testing hollowwheeze

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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relatable

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Randomizer v3.0 confirmed?! /s

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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@heavy kayak 😠

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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v3.0 will be quite soon

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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oh wtf

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sorry ush

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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all I need now is to coerce people not me into fixing the logic

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and I have a plan for that geoman

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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if my hollow knight hasn't responded for the past 6 minutes does this mean it's at 93 or whatever

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:20 PM

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probably

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what mods?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:21 PM

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qol + enemy rando is the thing i was trying to test

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and yeah

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memory allocation error

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idek what would do that

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I'm actually trying to fix it rn

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I'm just looking for the loading function, then hopefully I'll get it to tell me what's it's failing to load

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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same though

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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and hopefully it's not vital enough to skip

unborn flicker Jul 27, 2019, 6:24 PM

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does enemy rando randomize Dream Warriors?

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:25 PM

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No Eyes can appear for me ye

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:25 PM

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me irl

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i swear if it's the fade

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i think this is the biggest datastructure i have

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I feel like this has a decently high chance of being it

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Oh

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this should be a set i think

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but still

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It only hashes the first like 8 characters of the string

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for every log

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Unless enemy rando has a ton of output log stuff

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Nevermind this is just for like 8 strings

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:30 PM

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huh

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it's white defender

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:30 PM

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yeah

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i knew that part

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idk why though

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me, 4 seconds before giving up, 2k18

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what the fuck

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it is the logging

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maggotprime

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https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.QoL/blob/master/Dev.cs

GitHub

5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.QoL

Contribute to 5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.QoL development by creating an account on GitHub.

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is there something super fucked here that i'm missing

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:34 PM

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it skips scene 397 as well

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why is that?

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I think it's lost kin

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:35 PM

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397 is indeed lost kin

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wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:35 PM

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also it breaks with the rando map as well

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in the exact same way

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94%

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:35 PM

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That's so weird

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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this is really weird

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according to the logs, it loads scene 398 fine

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and then unloads

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and then it crashes

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so it's crashing in the unload?

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that's interesting

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I blocked it from loading scene 398 completely by just using an if statement

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and then it got stuck on 93%

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with exactly the same logs, just with 396 instead of 398

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which leads me to believe that it's a problem with 399

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so I'll try blocking that

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:44 PM

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runtime detour was apparently leaky

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and the api is like mega not updated

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So I think it's any mod which has a hook that runs often would eventually kill the game

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And loading 400 scenes causes lots of logging

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so in this case QoL's logging hook was killing it

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Idk what was causing it on RandoMapMod's end but I presume it's the same deal

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Randomizer hooks PlaymakerFSM OnEnable though

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That's gonna run like 50 times per scene

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:47 PM

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rando also kills enemy rando

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or it did

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before re-build

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 6:47 PM

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But it doesn't kill itself

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:47 PM

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this is true

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But it also doesn't load like 400 scenes

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Regular gameplay does eventually

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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yeah

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That might be a contributor to infinite loads

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is what I was thinking

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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what's scene 306?

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Updated Enemy Rando and 👀

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copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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I'm gonna rebuild the API and see what happens

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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oh yeah

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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1 string data = "Assets/Scenes/Deepnest/Deepnest_East_01.unity"

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I need to change that

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:49 PM

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~~I guess I shouldn't mess around with the Enemy Rando mod for now because its still in development~~

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:49 PM

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elderC

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wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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aha

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I think it might be breaking on the Hollow Knight room

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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~~But somehow my menu style changed from Eternal Ordeal to the Godmaster immediately~~

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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now that sounds more realistic

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yes

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Enemy rando sets your menu to gm

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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that's intended

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Because kerr found gm menu before gm

magic rover Jul 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Oh

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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and people liked it

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thus

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 7:10 PM

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apparently there's nothing special about White Defender

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or any scene from the looks of it

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it's just when it gets to 94 it crashes

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even if I disable the scenes before it, it crashes on the closest one it has to 94

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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memory leak

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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yeah

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but what's causing it?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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runtime detour

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i think

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wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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ok

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I'd love to update it but the API doesn't build anymore

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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and that's the thing that's linking QoL with the map mod?

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I believe so

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Both have On. hooks

wraith bear Jul 27, 2019, 7:13 PM

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ah I see

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 7:13 PM

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But I can't actually check because I can't get this to build

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@rain cedar help

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the prepatcher hates me

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 7:15 PM

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hello

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 7:15 PM

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i updated cecil and now it can't find cecil

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after re-adding the ref too

rain cedar Jul 27, 2019, 7:15 PM

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what

copper nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 7:15 PM

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         Copying file from "C:\Users\home\Projects\HollowKnight.API\HollowKnight.Modding\MonoMod\Mono.Cecil.Pdb.dll" to "C:\Users\home\Projects\HollowKnight.API\HollowKnight.Modding\Assembly-CSharp\bin\Debug\net35\Mono.Cecil.Pdb.dll".
         Copying file from "C:\Users\home\Projects\HollowKnight.API\HollowKnight.Modding\MonoMod\Mono.Cecil.dll" to "C:\Users\home\Projects\HollowKnight.API\HollowKnight.Modding\Assembly-CSharp\bin\Debug\net35\Mono.Cecil.dll".
         Copying file from "C:\Users\home\Projects\HollowKnight.API\HollowKnight.Modding\MonoMod\Mono.Cecil.Rocks.dll" to "C:\Users\home\Projects\HollowKnight.API\HollowKnight.Modding\Assembly-CSharp\bin\Debug\net35\Mono.Cecil.Rocks.dll".
         Copying file from "C:\Users\home\Projects\HollowKnight.API\HollowKnight.Modding\MonoMod\MonoMod.exe" to "C:\Users\home\Projects\HollowKnight.API\HollowKnight.Modding\Assembly-CSharp\bin\Debug\net35\MonoMod.exe".
          PrePatcher.exe Assembly-CSharp.dll Assembly-CSharp-patched.dll
         
         Unhandled Exception: System.IO.FileLoadException: Could not load file or assembly 'Mono.Cecil, Version=0.10.3.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=50cebf1cceb9d05e' or one of its dependencies. The located assembly's manifest definition does not match the assembly reference. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80131040)
            at Prepatcher.Program.Main(String[] args)

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oh motherfucker

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nevermind

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It copies Prepatcher/PrePatcher

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which is outdated I think