archived-modding-development

[safe hamlet]

56, have you tried julia?

[copper nacelle]

I haven't

[leaden hedge]

its shit

[flat forum]

I

JULIA

I HATE IT

[safe hamlet]

boi it's not that bad

[leaden hedge]

bad

[flat forum]

WHY IS CELESTE MODDING JULIA

[safe hamlet]

give me a valid reason

[leaden hedge]

its not

[copper nacelle]

it's just the level editor isn't it

[leaden hedge]

its only the level editor

[flat forum]

just the level editor

oke

[leaden hedge]

and you could spend like 30minutes on my github

and fix my gui

[safe hamlet]

i meant the language

[leaden hedge]

and you have a c# ingame level editor

[flat forum]

W H Y I S T H E L E V E L E D I T O R J U L I A

[safe hamlet]

is there a level editor named julia?

[copper nacelle]

because the people who made it liked julia

[leaden hedge]

because im too lazy to finish mine

[flat forum]

I don't like them

[leaden hedge]

and level encoding is math

and julia is good at math

[safe hamlet]

o

nvm i misunderstood

[flat forum]

julia bad

[leaden hedge]

for real though, my level editor is feature complete

[safe hamlet]

julia has unicode variable naming

[leaden hedge]

its just messing gui

[safe hamlet]

pretty hot

https://docs.julialang.org/en/v1/manual/variables/

[leaden hedge]

its shit

it doesn't use proper names for stuff

so if you're trying to find out how to do anything the docs are useless

[safe hamlet]

maybe you just need to git gud

[leaden hedge]

maybe they need to use programming terms instead of maths ones

[safe hamlet]

maths terms are pretty hot, ok?

[leaden hedge]

not if I'm not doing maths

[safe hamlet]

i mean it's designed for maths stuff

[leaden hedge]

ye and everything else is fine for maths

but they use proper words for things

[copper nacelle]

good idea

[safe hamlet]

lol

[copper nacelle]

got to phase 2

[safe hamlet]

56, why are you not asleep

[copper nacelle]

u

[safe hamlet]

phase 2?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

focus section

it's way easier than i thought

might do nail only

[safe hamlet]

you mean DV?

[copper nacelle]

who

[safe hamlet]

2 vessels™

[copper nacelle]

no

darkmod pv

[safe hamlet]

ah

nice

zaliant did it i think

https://markoth.is-pretty.sexy/hvDg5gS.png i was laughing at this

[copper nacelle]

ah

better idea

i lied it was a terrible idea

[safe hamlet]

try NKG

[copper nacelle]

i already did nkg

a while ago

[safe hamlet]

o

[copper nacelle]

https://youtu.be/jktyeXXNZvU

[safe hamlet]

very nice

do you just mainly go off of sound clues?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[flat forum]

56 go to bed

[leaden hedge]

you prejump everything in nkg

if he shoots fireballs/pillars its delayed enough that you can dodge it even without visual cues

[copper nacelle]

^

[copper nacelle]

https://streamable.com/d4brz

maybe i'll get it tomorrow

but i'm pretty happy with getting to phase 2 in like an hour

[gilded lotus]

whats your strat for diving lances? only way i beat him was stacking hp and hopefully avoiding it

[jovial vault]

what the fuck 56

[edgy pier]

where can I find the randomizer mod?

[solar jacinth]

gruz mother dark when

radiant no charm no spell nail only

[hollow hearth]

https://youtu.be/NnLkIf1eA98

literally

all the comments

then zaliant is just like "how do i read"

that made it a little better

[flat forum]

Modthalia when

[hollow hearth]

apparently never

because angle whined too much when i got lifeblood

[flat forum]

Papers that doesn't suck at HK when

[hollow hearth]

so now mola is afraid to give me anything at all

[leaden hedge]

I've never closed redknighthub so fast

[flat forum]

wat's dat

[leaden hedge]

you never seen a monstahler video

[flat forum]

nope

[leaden hedge]

he always gets
I've never closed pornhub so fast

on all his videos

[flat forum]

nice

[solar jacinth]

[flat forum]

[solar jacinth]

moddinghub

[leaden hedge]

there you go I shitposted on your most recent video

[hollow hearth]

Nice its a bunch of things i dont understand

And mobile doesnt let me copy it

[hollow hearth]

Is this a sudden small influx of watchers

Wow

[solemn rivet]

I exist @copper nacelle send api

[solemn rivet]

umm

it's working now

restarting the pc seems to have fixed it

[copper nacelle]

@gilded lotus the strat for the lances is you prejump everything with slight l/r movement so you don't get hit by the initial downwards attack and then you can pogo or move a bit more l/r fairly easily from there

lances are definitely the hardest attack though

[trim totem]

impossible

[solemn basin]

Seems doable. Is it just hoping PV doesn't immediately empty hop?

[solemn rivet]

Is that supposed to be a pun on hop

[trim totem]

wjhat

[solemn basin]

If it was, it was unintentional.

I usually pogo PV's dive. If you pogo too long (usually 3) he may hop. If you can't see you likely won't react in time.

[copper nacelle]

empty hops are cancer

but they're usually no issue

he just jumps over you and you hear a thud

[solemn basin]

Gotcha. PV definitely sounds like it could be done radiant. Good luck!

[ornate rivet]

you know what doesn't have empty hops?

DoH 😎

[trim totem]

is there a guide for area rando skips

[copper nacelle]

They're the same as the rando 2 skips

You've seen the src guide for those right

[trim totem]

yes

[unborn flicker]

You can get Isma's Tear with only Isma's Tear

That's the biggest new skip I remember

It's hard to remember, since I rewrote everything

Should be pretty intuitive though

[trim totem]

i'm just worried about weird pogoes mostly

did you account for like

nail range pogoes

[unborn flicker]

no

[unborn flicker]

those don't really exist anyways, outside of a few rare shade skips

[proper sequoia]

Is there a mod that removes the retard in dirtmouth when you get the Banish troupee ending?

[copper nacelle]

that's not very nice 😡

[fair rampart]

Did they add any new mods?

For the game I mean

[copper nacelle]

Yes I'm sure I'm able to sense when you last checked on the amount of mods with my magical mod powers

[buoyant obsidian]

Yes they have been hard at work and have added over a dozen new mods for the game

[solemn rivet]

they

[solemn rivet]

earlier today when it worked, my gamepad was unplugged

[copper nacelle]

Try the new api

[solemn rivet]

I'll try replugging it with the game running

ok

[copper nacelle]

that i sent you

I think that might have gamepad changes

[solemn rivet]

ha, see this

it works fine if I plug it after it loads

but not before

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

ok, so since we got that out of the way

I'll try the new api

gimme a sec

[copper nacelle]

yeet skeet

[solemn rivet]

new api works

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[solemn rivet]

idk

[copper nacelle]

Time to merge my gamepad changes

[solemn rivet]

wanna see modlog I guess?

[copper nacelle]

i don't think it'll have anything if it didn't explode

but sure ig

[weak lodge]

vvvvv

æ

[copper nacelle]

what

[solemn rivet]

yeah, nothing noteworthy in modlog

[weak lodge]

aww ♫

[solemn rivet]

how fine is the new logging supposed to be?

[copper nacelle]

It only logs when it actually dies

make your game die again

[solemn rivet]

but

I'm doing my very best senpai

pls notice me

[copper nacelle]

Lemme rebuild the api w/out the gamepad changes

[weak lodge]

ok! ┼

[copper nacelle]

buddy if you are going to spam go to meme

[weak lodge]

i am not going to spam

it was simply ok!

now go merge gamepad controls

[copper nacelle]

[weak lodge]

glad you understand buddy

[copper nacelle]

ok pal

@solemn rivet

[solemn rivet]

ok

I'll give this one a shot in like 30min

lemme play it for a while first

[copper nacelle]

pensive

[weak lodge]

any other changes than just that

[copper nacelle]

no

[weak lodge]

understandable

[copper nacelle]

besides the assembly resolve logging ofc

https://youtu.be/b6MJMleAqlI

not radiant yet

[hollow pier]

wow u suck

[copper nacelle]

i really do

[safe hamlet]

bet i could do that blindfolded with no audio

[copper nacelle]

doubt

@charred parrot stream

[charred parrot]

oh boy

[copper nacelle]

is this a yes

[charred parrot]

I guess so

[copper nacelle]

easy

[charred parrot]

HK or Celeste though

[copper nacelle]

hk

[solemn rivet]

You should have said so before

I could have hosted you

smh

[charred parrot]

sadness

[solemn rivet]

You just lost 13 viewers

[charred parrot]

crisis

[solemn rivet]

crysis

[safe hamlet]

13 viewers that didn't exist

[jovial vault]

ok

[safe hamlet]

also i didn't even know how maggotPrime was created until earlier today

i stumbled upon that glorious video

[copper nacelle]

https://clips.twitch.tv/MistyVibrantMarjoramThunBeast

[safe hamlet]

ah that's where you went

very nice

[trim totem]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/439357823

[jovial vault]

big gamer moment

[floral furnace]

epic fireball boost

[sly adder]

is the speed in sanic mod adjustable?

[gilded lotus]

yes

see sanic.globalsettings in the directory C:\Users<user>\AppData\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight

im assuming you have windows

[sly adder]

nice thanks

[sly adder]

okay so ive hit a new unrelated problem lmfao

I attempted to run ModInstaller.exe while the game was open just thinking that I could check the readme of a mod. The problem was I didn't realise that its gonna attempt to reinstall the API, after launching it claimed to have installed the API fine but it gave me a popup after pressing 'Ok' saying:
"Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately
The file "C:\temp\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Assembly-CSharp.dll" is in use by another program"
I closed Hollow Knight and attempting to open the ModInstaller.exe again it would give me the same popup but saying that the assembly-csharp "already exists".
My first idea was to verify the integrity of the game files and just reinstall the mods, unfortunately all that did was uninstall the mods and keep the issue, blocking me from reinstalling them.
Pressing Continue on the window will give me a fullscreen size window of the application where the only button says 'Manually' and clicking on that will bring up file explorer and allow you to select a file. Selecting Assembly-CSharp.dll will say that it has successfully installed it but it seems to have no effect on the game.
Uninstalling and reinstalling seemed to have no effect, removing the already existing Assembly-CSharp just means it can't find the game files, and suggests checking that the game is installed.
I've tried downloading a new version of ModInstaller through the ;i link but no progress was made.

idk if i missed detail i just wrote this in a notepad txt

[solemn rivet]

go to c:/temp and delete everything related to modinstaller in there

[sly adder]

like the mods folder and stuff?

oh

OH

this makes sense

thanks

i dont know how that didnt click in my head

[vale mortar]

Any way to fix the bad modinstaller.exe? It automatically updated today so now everything's borked.

[jovial vault]

modding staff what are you doing smh

[leaden hedge]

nothing

blame 56

[jovial vault]

yusuf what are you doing

[safe hamlet]

blame gradow

gradow why is your installer so bad smh my head

[solemn rivet]

what

what did automatically update?

[solemn rivet]

new api broke rando2

[safe hamlet]

rando2 is a bad mod confirmed

[solemn rivet]

I'll check if rando 2.8 works

also, you forgot to update modlinks 56

installer kept overwriting the new api

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

yeah

I just did it

and it stopped updating

gg

[copper nacelle]

[young walrus]

Rekt

[copper nacelle]

idk it was working for me

[solemn rivet]

it worked fine

but since the new api's shasum didn't match the one in the xml it kept asking to update every time the installer launched

[copper nacelle]

no I mean like it didn't update when I opened the installer working

[solemn rivet]

huh

it did for me

and also when I opened the xml to edit it, it was different from what I pasted there

idk

any idea why rando2 stopped working?

it loads just fine, no errors or anything

it just doesn't show the ui when creating a new save

[copper nacelle]

Rebuild it

The same thing happened to MoreSaves

[solemn rivet]

:effort:

[copper nacelle]

u

[solemn rivet]

why are you forall

[safe hamlet]

why can’t he be forall

[solar jacinth]

^

[solemn rivet]

not saying he can't

just asking why

[copper nacelle]

it's a good symbol

[solemn rivet]

[unborn flicker]

jiji door

Pleasure house door

[solar jacinth]

Bruh

[solemn rivet]

Wtf

[solar jacinth]

Cant wait to see this channel after release of silksong

Modding intsentifies

[upper niche]

Ok, so I recently convienced my friend to play hollow knight, and he's still really early in the game. He says he likes it so far, but apparently he's also having huge issues with input delay, even on keyboard controls. He says he can handle it for now, but it's gonna make late game content a nightmare for him. (He doesn't realise how hard and fast it gets.) I'm pretty sure that his cpu is a little underpowered. Anyone know how to fix it? I really want him to have the best experience he can. I'm sorry if I'm asking for something impossible, but is there anything that can be done? Can someone, like optimise the game to need less cpu?
I know what I'm asking for is unrealistic, but I'll really take what I can get.
Thanks.

[fair rampart]

Does he have vsync on

[solar jacinth]

Lowe res

[upper niche]

hes on min res and has vsync off

[solar jacinth]

Lower particles ?

[upper niche]

yep

[solar jacinth]

And blur

?

[upper niche]

Not sure about blur, lemme ask

[solar jacinth]

Blur ia important af

Is

If ypu lower it i can guarantee a betyer performamce

[upper niche]

Blur is off

[solar jacinth]

Hmm

Ill see if o can find anything once i get home

Any acreen shot for settings of video

[upper niche]

Thanks! Can you ping or dm me if you find anything?

[solar jacinth]

Ok

I ws planning to work on optimiae tho

Good concidince

[upper niche]

Nice!

[solar jacinth]

Damn mobile keyboard

[upper niche]

lol

[young walrus]

play windowed, and manually set the res

"lowest res" means nothing

cuz the game can go much lower than the in-game settings

[upper niche]

Alright. I'll tell him. Thanks!

[young walrus]

use:

-popupwindow (sets windowed-borderless)

[upper niche]

Where does he use it? is it something in the debugger mod?

[young walrus]

and

-Screen-height [height here]
-screen-width [width here]

launch commands

[upper niche]

Got it! Thanks!

[upper niche]

Wait, so what should he type in there?

[young walrus]

whatever width and height you want

look up common resolutions

leave out "high" and "adapter1"

they won't need those

[upper niche]

Thanks

[young walrus]

-screen-width 4
-screen-height 1

the classic 1p resolution

[solemn rivet]

Make it 4:3

Or 16:9 if you're not a degenerate

[jovial vault]

gradow everyone here is a degenerate

[flat forum]

18:5,9

[jovial vault]

i have questions

[flat forum]

they shant be answered

[solemn rivet]

Why are you talking to yourself

[flat forum]

Schizofrenia

[jovial vault]

gradow now im going to have to be the most unwholesome person

so you don't say me and papers are the same person

[solemn rivet]

Literally impossible

[flat forum]

mino

mino if you dare be unwholesome I will slap u

you're misrepresenting the double-state entity that we are

[jovial vault]

youll have to fly over here to slap me and that ur time and money not mine

[solemn rivet]

You guys are like a binary star system

[jovial vault]

me and papers fight to the death

papers join me in being modding's free real estate

while i figure out how to code

[solemn rivet]

Papers, draw me some tentacles

[young walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-apenis-gif-9502565

[jovial vault]

tbh gradow at this point i dont know if youre serious or joking and that's adding to this

sigh

[solemn rivet]

This is a test

[flat forum]

wow mino

why not let's figure out how to code together

[solemn rivet]

His response will tell me if you're actually the same person or not

[jovial vault]

holy shit papers youre right

can't you code already tho

[flat forum]

I have a mod to finish

no I can't

[jovial vault]

which one

[flat forum]

why do you think I'm making such slow progress

[solemn rivet]

Papers draw me 2b + tentacles please

[flat forum]

why are you 27 tentacles

why not 26

or 28

[solemn rivet]

I'm 27yo

[jovial vault]

haha nerd

[flat forum]

wait that's your age?

[solemn rivet]

One tentacle grows each year

[flat forum]

grandpa

[fair rampart]

[solemn rivet]

*ma

[jovial vault]

i have never had a single tentacle in my 17 years of existence

[flat forum]

you were 11 when I was born

smh

[jovial vault]

gradow is grandma

[solemn rivet]

He he he he

[flat forum]

wait mino you fuc

[jovial vault]

papers yo

[flat forum]

when were you born??

[jovial vault]

yoyo

have you seen

the blessed video

2002

[flat forum]

wtf

I'm 2002 too

[solemn rivet]

[jovial vault]

the fuck

[solemn rivet]

[jovial vault]

my birthday is hollow knight day

[solemn rivet]

Feeling elderbug

[fair rampart]

babies get out

[solemn rivet]

Jngo is 103yo

[flat forum]

nyo

baby noises

[jovial vault]

papers
https://clips.twitch.tv/MistyDarlingPenguinMcaT

[solemn rivet]

I like that there's penguin in the title

Best animal

[jovial vault]

ok buddy

oh wait papers isnt in the server™

[solemn rivet]

Not yet

[jovial vault]

i dmed them

[upper niche]

Ok, Mickley so (ignoring whats going on right now) my friend is saying that the popupwindow stuff isn't doing anything

[jovial vault]

just toss your friend here

[young walrus]

turn fullscreen off in-game

[upper niche]

He says that he says he did

[young walrus]

then relaunched the game?

[upper niche]

not sure. gimmie a moment

Is this right?

[young walrus]

should be

could put a - in front of popupwindow

should be fine without it tho

[upper niche]

hes trying it now

Well putting a - in front of it worked

And the input is much better, apparently!

Thank you so much!

[ornate rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384146478354137091/581805586459656192/happysigh.gif

[jovial vault]

Me if you release PC

[proper sequoia]

Is there any mod that removes Defender's Crest's visual effect?

[young walrus]

Yeah. Not wearing the charm

[unborn flicker]

You can also try using the mod "Godmaster"

It sometimes removes the visual effect on its own

[weak lodge]

pensive

[safe hamlet]

yes there is

when you make it

[weak lodge]

sid ultraparry coming early 2018™

conflicted on to follow what saleh said and do a very hard project as my first or do something easy like ultraparry

[floral furnace]

the latter honestly

[weak lodge]

pensive knightmere actually modding and getting blue name when

[ornate rivet]

blue name

[copper nacelle]

@charred parrot

[gilded lotus]

Map

[granite geode]

cool but

i need rando3

and its location is somewhere in here

[copper nacelle]

any #randomizer pins

[granite geode]

alright wonderful

[flat forum]

hello

I have a question

[copper nacelle]

but will you ask it

[trim totem]

evidently no

[flat forum]

sorry I went ahead to get my ass kicked

how do I turn off music

[copper nacelle]

what

in hk?

[flat forum]

yes

code-wise

make a mod that removes any and all music

not ambient sounds though

[rain cedar]

Try moving the music volume slider to 0

[flat forum]

I mean make it so that no matetr what position that thing is there's no music

[rain cedar]

Why?

[flat forum]

aesthetic reasons for the mod

[rain cedar]

You can probably override it to be 0 always

Regardless of the UI

[flat forum]

myeh

how

[rain cedar]

That's a great question

Good start is the menu_title scene dump

[trim totem]

what mod

[flat forum]

Khan what mod do you think it is

there is literally only 1 single mod associated with me and that is me murdering off all of Hallownest

[jovial vault]

@flat forum explain

[flat forum]

what is there to explain I am killing everyone in Hallownest

this is honestly the only thing about the mod I have saved

[jovial vault]

there aren't many people left to kill tbh

[flat forum]

an old-ish version

mino

go play it

to see what I mean

[jovial vault]

i should be studying so im not going to check this out rn

[flat forum]

later is fine too

[jovial vault]

tfw school ends but ur still stuck in academic hell

[trim totem]

area rando is god

[trim totem]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BombasticArborealLlamaJKanStyle

is this intended?

[trim totem]

i think that's royal waterways, which i haven't unlocked yet

[jovial vault]

yea looks like the waterways

[twilit garden]

Is the most recent repository of mods this google drive one? https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs

im having trouble getting the debug mod to work

[floral furnace]

are you using the installer?

[twilit garden]

no, I tried doing it manually

[floral furnace]

well you should use the installer instead

[twilit garden]

I'll try it again, I was having a weird crash after using the installer and quickly gave up...

I'll have a thoroughly try now

Just realized I was in the wrong channel too 😅 meant modding-help

thanks anyways

[jovial vault]

ttacco boi do you need more sprites/stuff or do you just want to try putting the current ones in game

[floral furnace]

not at the moment mino

[jovial vault]

ye cool

lmk if you figure out how to put in new sprites

[floral furnace]

im still not in the mood since im too busy drowning myself over my interview

[jovial vault]

:(

[floral furnace]

aight, thanks

[jovial vault]

hope it went okay dude

[floral furnace]

hahaha haha haha same

[jovial vault]

:((

it's okay man

[floral furnace]

pensive hours

[ornate rivet]

@weak lodge
Make this a boss fight

[weak lodge]

no

does that look like a knight of lurien

ngl the sprite looks quite good but its overall theme looks more FotF than CoT

plus imagine telling him to redo entire watcher knights spritesheet and keep those horns consistent

[jovial vault]

knightmere watchers of lurien when

[weak lodge]

mino i said id try after exams 😡

[jovial vault]

smh

when do your exams end

[weak lodge]

a few weeks from now

[jovial vault]

big oof

[weak lodge]

dont want to do anything while under this pressure tbh

[jovial vault]

yea understandable

good luck

what are you studying btw?

[copper nacelle]

weeks

[weak lodge]

english, lit,maths ,french, general sciences, history, spanish, geo and a couple of others im yet to choose my subjects u see

[jovial vault]

good luck

[weak lodge]

ty

[jovial vault]

i ended up taking that many for my o levels

[weak lodge]

definately gonna drop spanish

[jovial vault]

romance languages are 😩 anyways

[weak lodge]

romance more like lkjasnvdjnvsdkl.mACVFEDSD,FVA B N.MJK//

[jovial vault]

this tbh

why learn romance languages when you could learn latin and pick up all of them through osmosis

for some reason i thought you were in uni or something

[weak lodge]

i have been

me? no im around 56's level

[jovial vault]

smh younger than me

[weak lodge]

yes

mino age fucking huge

[jovial vault]

i am 17 year old grown man

[weak lodge]

1 year over consent in canada

[jovial vault]

i just tend to assume people are older than me

knightmere what are you implying

[weak lodge]

i am implying tengu of ashina 👺

[copper nacelle]

who

[weak lodge]

isshin ashina

[copper nacelle]

ah

[weak lodge]

👺

[copper nacelle]

lmao

[jovial vault]

the nose gets me

[copper nacelle]

👺

it really is isshin

[weak lodge]

it really do

[copper nacelle]

also mino the trick is

stop taking Latin and take more cs courses

[jovial vault]

did you drop latin?

also imagine taking cs courses when you could take more advanced math courses

[weak lodge]

why learn latin when you subconsciously learn it when looking at words anyway

[copper nacelle]

that's next year mino

[jovial vault]

knightmere have you looked at latin grammar

[copper nacelle]

but yeah I'm not gonna take AP Latin

[weak lodge]

i have a couple times

[jovial vault]

it's a big sigh tbh

[weak lodge]

also is calculus good

[jovial vault]

56 what stuff are you taking next year? bc calc?

ye i enjoyed calc a lot

[copper nacelle]

bc calc, apush, ai 1/2, Computer vision 1/2, parallel computing 1/2

[jovial vault]

very nice

[copper nacelle]

senior year I want to take multivar, linear, and probably concrete math

[jovial vault]

linear alg makes me

multivar's also cool

[copper nacelle]

I think I also want to take microprocessor design senior year but that isn't a 5.0 class

[jovial vault]

a what class

smh american high schooling system

[weak lodge]

smh

[copper nacelle]

these classes are the entire reason I applied to the school ngl

[weak lodge]

you applied to a school for senior courses?

[floral furnace]

calc is lame tho

[jovial vault]

nou

[floral furnace]

you cant nou me when im right

[copper nacelle]

I applied for the cs courses knightmere

[weak lodge]

oh kk

56 be applying for them pro csgo classes 😎

[jovial vault]

[weak lodge]

sigh think ill drop both french and spanish tbh i cant handle those SAT's

[jovial vault]

the SAT is a big suffer

[weak lodge]

pale prince

[jovial vault]

here's a pro tip, don't stop doing maths for 2 weeks and then go when you've forgotten a third of everything

[weak lodge]

i mean my first exam day i had history english, lit and IT and did well in all except probably english which i did ok-ish from cramming 2 days before 😎

[jovial vault]

oof

i did that before both my history and sociology exam

[copper nacelle]

cramming 2 days before I sleep

cramming on the bus ride real shit

[hazy sentinel]

not studying real shit

[weak lodge]

studying after test

[jovial vault]

boi

[solemn rivet]

Linear alg is the shit

Don't you dare badmouth it near me

I'll shoot ya

[proper sequoia]

@young walrus thank you for the mod suggestion. It works perfectly and i havent seen the crest's effect anymore. I owe u one g

[hazy sentinel]

wow a whole $1000

[weak lodge]

how many pennies

[gilded lotus]

add 2 zeros

[weak lodge]

:(

[granite plume]

hey guys, is there any 'fast reset' mod for after wiping in Hall of Gods? i have to re-enter every single time and this is annoying on Radiant
(please tag me if you answer so i can see the ping. tnx!)

[gilded lotus]

QoL speeds some stuff up a tad bit @granite plume

[copper nacelle]

I was actually considering making that

[undone estuary]

I wish i could mod Hollow Knight but i have it on the switch and that's way to much of a hastle

[safe hamlet]

make it and add it to QoL

[copper nacelle]

i really need to change qol

multiple mods as settings

[copper nacelle]

Exaltation is broken right

i am going to take this as a yes

[still warren]

is randomapmod broken still

[silk jetty]

it's fine for rando 2

but rando 3 it's still broken for afaik

[still warren]

rando 3?

weird, didn't ask me to update it

[copper nacelle]

it's pinned in #randomizer

it's not entirely released

[proper sequoia]

I wish rando affected Pale Ore, Void Heart, and also randomized which relic would you get when you pick up one

[still warren]

hey so

is the assembly-csharp packed with seanp the api mod?

[copper nacelle]

@proper sequoia #randomizer pins has that except relics

who

[proper sequoia]

oh nice

thanks lad

[copper nacelle]

The api is packed with the api

[proper sequoia]

okay

good guy 56

[copper nacelle]

goodbye float values

[plush notch]

I was curious about the formulas from the bonfire mod

but I can't seem to be able to find the source code

there's https://github.com/Ayugradow/BonfireMod but it seems old

[copper nacelle]

@solemn rivet u

[solemn rivet]

that's it, I think

I don't think I changed them

y

[copper nacelle]

eet

[safe hamlet]

eet

[plush notch]

ah shit alright, I'm blind

thanks

[copper nacelle]

[unborn flicker]

idk, I prefer where it sets each one by one in the fsm

[copper nacelle]

[safe hamlet]

o no immutable collections in .netfx 3.5

[flat forum]

wait

I thought that was my code for a min tbh

[urban olive]

is the newest version of itemrando on the installer? the one that randomizes mask shards?

/ fragments etc

[copper nacelle]

no

#randomizer pins

[urban olive]

Thank you 56

One more question sorry
How do I modify Sanic mods speedup? I know it’s 1.5x by default but I’d like to make it 2x

[copper nacelle]

There’s a config file in the saves folder

Make sure you have the most updated version, I updated it like an hour or two ago to support the new settings format

[solemn basin]

New Sanic settings?

Is it even more evil?

[copper nacelle]

No

It doesn’t use the float values dictionary

[solemn basin]

Gotcha.

[silk jetty]

question, is deepnest without lantern ever in logic?

[copper nacelle]

it would surprise me if it wasn’t

[silk jetty]

hopefully it isn't because I aint doing that shit

[copper nacelle]

ok buddy

[unborn flicker]

@unborn flicker release the logic 2019

[fair rampart]

Is there a special version of the API i need for the randomizer 2.8?

[solemn rivet]

nepnepnep

[fair rampart]

I'm getting an exception in modlog; something about reflection

[solemn rivet]

it's fine

what version of the api do you have

[fair rampart]

whatever the installer gave me

[solemn rivet]

it shows on top left of the title screen

[fair rampart]

1432-51

[swift adder]

Have you guys ever killed the false knight while he was invisible and while wearing glass soul? (I don't talk here often, so I figured this might be the right place because modded)

[solemn rivet]

invisible wut

[swift adder]

Oops, sorry, continue with helping them

[solemn rivet]

nep: that's fine then

that's the required version for rando 2.8

[swift adder]

Also, it was the false knight, first big boi you fight

[fair rampart]

rando2.8 says failed to load; is there another dependEncy i need?

[solemn rivet]

yeah it's in the same folder you got rando2.8 from

it's called seanprcore

[fair rampart]

OH DERP

[solemn rivet]

Ken: explain

how was false knight invisible

[fair rampart]

thanks 27

[solemn rivet]

27

also, did you get softlocked or something

[swift adder]

I have no clue, I tried getting him to show up by saving and coming back, still invis

[solemn rivet]

for the screenshots everything looks fine

but

he's never invisible

during the fight I mean

and also the city crest is there on the floor

just pick it up and move on

[swift adder]

I did, I just kept going, got vengeful spirit now

But I have no clue, I'm not sure what happened, but, it was fun

[silk jetty]

wouldn't it be possible to finish the game before leaving crossroads in rando 3 if the dreamers were in crossroads

[weary oyster]

i dont think rando seeding would let that happen

[silk jetty]

my first run of rando 3 had 2 dreamers in crossroads

infected crossroads with basically nothing is a pain in the ass

[dawn oxide]

is the room randomizer out?

[silk jetty]

it's area not room but yes

pins in #randomizer

bruh moment

I cheat in geo for convenience sake when I'm not doing a race so it doesn't matter but what a deal

[shy cloak]

@unborn flicker prices seem to change between Quit to Menu's... Is this a known issue? You don't have the issue tracker up on gh

[unborn flicker]

Yes, this has already been reported

[shy cloak]

okeydoke 😃

Just making sure

[silk jetty]

holy shit sly is just trying to make me invest when I'm cheating in geo

[unborn flicker]

This really doesn't seem appropriate for #archived-modding-development

[silk jetty]

ikr

[shy cloak]

holy shit my cousin just found Great Hopper % that was hilarious

[urban olive]

https://github.com/iamwyza/HollowKnightRandomizerTracker
my icons arent showing up, can anyone help?

[unborn flicker]

Am I doing something wrong here? I fill ShopPrices during randomization and it works fine the first time, but on reloads the dictionary is empty

Also, doing this on laptop is cancer

[urban olive]

ok i got the icons and my "preview" window shows them but my program one doesnt

and so it doenst show on stream

[unborn flicker]

hmmm, or maybe onafterdeserialize is too early to get values

I'll look again in the morning

[shy cloak]

Screen transition will do it

[mossy pike]

@urban olive setup the tracker with Chrome, it doesn't work with Firefox (or probably any other browser)

[copper nacelle]

@unborn flicker you can't serialize generic classes

You have to make a class which inherits from SerializeableDictionary<string, int>

Unity

[copper nacelle]

That's why SerializableStirngDictionary, SerialzableBoolDictionary, etc exist

they're actually just empty classes

[dusky lion]

kdt give me tech support

[solar jacinth]

ok

[leaden hedge]

ok

buddy

[dusky lion]

thanks

[solar jacinth]

yw

[leaden hedge]

I only give tech support to people in the shitpost server

[gilded lotus]

KDT can i receive tech support

[leaden hedge]

for $3.50

[gilded lotus]

ok buddy

[torpid plank]

KDT can I get a Ryzen 3rd gen upgrade.

[unborn flicker]

The strange part to me, then, is that it works the first time if it has an inheritance issue, right?

It's saving correctly, also
"{\"_keys\":[\"Lurien\",\"Lifeblood_Core\",\"Abyss_Shriek\",\"Mothwing_Cloak\",\"Flukenest\",\"Defender's_Crest\",\"Dream_Wielder\",\"Spell_Twister\",\"Stalwart_Shell\",\"Fragile_Heart\",\"Glowing_Womb\",\"Spore_Shroom\",\"Lifeblood_Heart\",\"Wayward_Compass\",\"Queen_Fragment\",\"Shaman_Stone\",\"Baldur_Shell\",\"Nailmaster's_Glory\"],\"_values\":[120,360,250,470,460,120,500,190,300,160,250,460,190,390,300,420,460,240]}"

[copper nacelle]

It'll work fine as an object

It's just that unity won't serialize it

[unborn flicker]

Ah, so it can't put this back together then

[copper nacelle]

So when you put stuff in it yourself it'll still have stuff in it

Yeah

[unborn flicker]

The weird part is, I tried rewriting everything to use SerializableStringDictionary and casts and got the same error, but now I'm thinking I might not have actually pasted in the new mod for that

Oh, nope. I guess I was capable of doing something right after midnight

That's why I was wondering if this was lazy and not serializing ShopPrices first, even as a SerializableStringDictionary

[hollow hearth]

i sure do wonder what charm set i used

at least its not "red knight how"

[copper nacelle]

i sure do wonder what this has to do with modding when there's literally actual modding discussion happening right now

[hollow hearth]

shut 56

[copper nacelle]

you

[hollow hearth]

fine

but "right now" is 15 minutes ago

[copper nacelle]

[unborn flicker]

[solemn basin]

What charm set did you use for red knight Myrthalia?

[copper nacelle]

SerializableIntDictionary is already in the api btw homothety

So you can just swap to that and it should work w/out any changes being required

[unborn flicker]

yeah, I thought it would be int int for some reason

but something else is missing since serializestringdictionary doesn't work

I'm going to try passing to an array and using that as an argument in RandomizerActions

since that works for item placements, apparently

[copper nacelle]

You were parsing the ints on read right

[unborn flicker]

the ints weren't even logging as strings

the second load

[copper nacelle]

like they weren't logging w/ quotes or they weren't logging at all

[unborn flicker]

Log(AreaRando.Instance.Settings.ShopPrices.Where(item => item.Item1 == shopItem).FirstOrDefault().Item2);

is null after reload

where public (string, string)[] ShopPrices => _shopPrices.Select(pair => (pair.Key, pair.Value)).ToArray();

[copper nacelle]

And you're serializing that array of tuples right

Does unity support serializing tuples

it doesn't

[unborn flicker]

When I don't know what to do, I just copy Sean 😤

[copper nacelle]

and the other ones get serialized?

[unborn flicker]

Ok I fixed it

had to be in the arguments of RandomizerAction

tedious to update everywhere, but done

[copper nacelle]

ah

[iron birch]

ho w do you download mods

how

[copper nacelle]

help

[haughty ginkgo]

Hello, all. It's been a while since I've visited this discord, but I was wondering if anyone has managed (or even been interested enough) to make a randomizer.

[copper nacelle]

yeah there's a randomizer

[safe hamlet]

fix your brackets

[copper nacelle]

They aren't mine Sid

You see

if this was my code I would actually know what does what

[safe hamlet]

where did you find that

[copper nacelle]

It's the hk speedrunning timer

Memory offsets

[safe hamlet]

ah

[rain cedar]

Area rando should be split to a separate mod that communicates with item rando when it's present

I might do that later and make a pr that deletes like 15k lines

[safe hamlet]

[shy cloak]

Woah you can make it to Deep Focus with only Sharp Shadow + Wings

not sure if that's a SPIKETUNNELS worthy trick though

Unless spiketunnels specifically means spell hover

[copper nacelle]

it's not just spell hover

dashmaster works

[unborn flicker]

That should be possible Sean. Right now, though, it doesn't identify certain incompletable maps until after item placement.
I have plans to fix the area randomization and make it less dependent on the first item when I have more time though

[delicate stone]

Soo um

how can I install mods and stuff?

[weak lodge]

hello yes how can i help you

[delicate stone]

oki

[weak lodge]

all you have to do is install modinstaller, choose what mods you want and boot up the game

[delicate stone]

cool thanks

this

this is epic

[weak lodge]

pensive

if you need help with anything just ask

[delicate stone]

oki

[weak lodge]

though im not modding god thats 56

green man with fluffy cat as his pfp you cant miss him

[delicate stone]

what is this unofficial hk patch?

[silk jetty]

download click on readme

[delicate stone]

ok

[gilded lotus]

buddy

[delicate stone]

hm?

[copper nacelle]

(ok buddy)

[weak lodge]

(woah there buddy)

[copper nacelle]

(way too fast buddy)

[delicate stone]

fastest buddy of the west

[delicate stone]

u

m

what is this custom knight mod and what does it do

?

It has no readme and when I load the game nothing really happens

[silk jetty]

you need to download some sprite sheets from a pinned thing and put it in the folder for the mod

[delicate stone]

ok thanks

[weak lodge]

or you can make your own

[brazen iron]

Wait, this has mods

Hell yea

[dark wigeon]

what if i finished the level editor

[copper nacelle]

that'd be pretty pog

I was considering making a pop type thing

Then I realized I'd have to restart the game 8 times before getting anything in the right spot

I then stopped considering doing so

[dark wigeon]

is silksong going to be u2018?

[copper nacelle]

what

oh

no idea

i hope they update unity

[ornate rivet]

Nes does this mean you finished it

[dark wigeon]

almost

was just adding new level stuff too

[ornate rivet]

perfect timing

[dark wigeon]

if im making commits here it means im probably working on it https://github.com/nesrak1/AssetsTools.NET/commits/master

why is the timing perfect

[ornate rivet]

I'm about to finish the mod I'm working on rn and was planning to move on to a platforming challenge mod

[dark wigeon]

ok cool

the editor is done tho

I didn't realize I hadn't actually pushed any changes to the level loader mod

[charred parrot]

I'd be surprised if they were working on anything other than the 2017 LTS version

maybe something in 2018

maybe

[ornate rivet]

honestly graig would probably be willing to ask TC what version of unity they are using for SS

[fair rampart]

is someone actually making a level editor

[charred parrot]

this is true

[ornate rivet]

and tc would probably answer

[charred parrot]

@warped sinew Would you happen to know what version of unity they're using for SS?

[fair rampart]

you guys are some pretty talented people

[solar jacinth]

level editor h

[dark wigeon]

I'm not sure why I didn't push earlier but I believe the mod works fine for modifying levels

You can build here https://github.com/nesrak1/HKWorldLoad

[solemn rivet]

Wait

Can we copy stuff now

What about importing assets

[dark wigeon]

Importing works

Copying works sometimes it's kinda finicky

[solemn rivet]

are you god

you are god

[dark wigeon]

The changes I made yesterday and the day before should fix copying but I haven't added it yet into the mod

New levels also in the assetstools update

Along with importing levels from other unity games at runtime

[copper nacelle]

wait what

finally I can play furi in hk

[silk jetty]

how would that even work

[dark wigeon]

Magic

Nah it's just code

[silk jetty]

I don't know if you could port a 3d unity game into a 2d unity game

[dark wigeon]

Yes you could

[silk jetty]

what would that be like?

[dark wigeon]

2d is 3d in disguise

Idk haven't tried it

Probably 3d

[silk jetty]

if you ported a sphere into hk would it basically just be a circle

but look weird

[dark wigeon]

I think the camera is still perspective

So it would probably be a 3d cube on top of the 2d game

Also see the game perspective which did just this

[silk jetty]

I've seen perspective

it's cool

[ornate rivet]

so basically, Silksong + HK rando has been made before SS even releases?

[silk jetty]

could you make something block the camera so you could see nothing?

[dark wigeon]

Sure but y

[silk jetty]

darkmod but worse

[dark wigeon]

Play hk blind mode?

Rely on only sound

Anyway I've got it working for the two versions of subnautica but imagine ss assets and levels in hk

[charred parrot]

unity2d and 3d have different colliders

which dont interact

so

[dark wigeon]

Well I didn't say anything about colliding

Seems like it couldn't be that hard to convert though

[charred parrot]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

you'd be surprised

[dark wigeon]

I mean

Start out by making the bounds of the model/sprite a collider, then work from there

[jovial vault]

nes

you're alive

holy shit

[dark wigeon]

maybe

[jovial vault]

congrats on school not knocking you out

[dark wigeon]

yeah summer is very nice to me

[ornate rivet]

56 for mod

[ornate rivet]

@copper nacelle
I got the full path name for all the GOs with PrintSceneHierarchyPath() but I still get the same error

[INFO]:[API] - Fetching object "Colosseum Manager\Waves\Arena 8\Colosseum Platform (1)"
[WARN]:[API] - Could not find object "Colosseum Manager\Waves\Arena 8\Colosseum Platform (1)" in scene "Room_Colosseum_Bronze", requested by mod "PaleChampion"

I loaded 8 different GOs and all of them failed like this

[solemn rivet]

https://twitchtracker.com/gradow/clips?all holy shit khan, you literally spend my entire stream clipping me

[jovial vault]

legend

[safe hamlet]

^

should work with either tbh, bad implementation :^)

[ornate rivet]

okie dokie thonks

they all work

except

grimm pillar

[INFO]:[API] - Fetching objects for mod "PaleChampion"
[INFO]:[API] - Fetching object "_GameManager/GlobalPool/Grimm_flare_pillar(Clone)/Pillar"
[WARN]:[API] - Could not find object "_GameManager/GlobalPool/Grimm_flare_pillar(Clone)/Pillar" in scene "GG_Grimm_Nightmare", requested by mod "PaleChampion"

sigh

I printed all the grimm pillars and tried the two different names I found, neither worked

[dark wigeon]

there isnt a _GameManager in GG_Grimm_Nightmare

assuming thats created when the game starts

[rain cedar]

It's created by the menu scene

Deleted and recreated whenever you quit

[dark wigeon]

seems like the pillars are from Tutorial_01 which makes sense I guess since theres one of those over there

[safe hamlet]

i think you can just use Resources to get that

since you don't need to load any scene

[dark wigeon]

It's not in resources though its just a prefab

[safe hamlet]

o right

[dark wigeon]

also does anyone know of a map of the white palace

[jovial vault]

it's on youtube or smt

[dark wigeon]

ok I found it through the editor but the area has a white door blocking it .-.

[flat forum]

literally just

NoClip

from Debug

smh

[dark wigeon]

Yeah I did lol but I'm not at home anymore

Apparently from what I read it closes when you beat the game but noclip worked fine, I'm just afraid it'll break the save somehow

[ornate rivet]

This has WP map
https://rainingchain.com/hollowknight/map

[ornate rivet]

Sean, how did you know the pillars were created by the menu screen?

[rain cedar]

GameManager is made by the menu

The stuff in the global pools shouldn't be

I think those are just created whenever they're first used

[ornate rivet]

ok thanks

[solar jacinth]

yw

[weak lodge]

what

[twilit orbit]

hi how do install mod

[solar jacinth]

hi

thats how ok thanks

[twilit orbit]

sank u

[dark wigeon]

I'm lazy so to search for gameobjects I just grep for it in the level files

I really need to add search into assetsview

[copper nacelle]

relatable

I do that but with fsms

[dark wigeon]

Same

Also that reminds me, I have experimental fsm editing support in the fsm viewer

Really broke though

[copper nacelle]

cool

That's what the original FSM dumper had too but it was also pretty shit

You could edit the jsons of the dumped fsms and then it'd use those over the ones from assets

[rain cedar]

Outputting code for modifying the FSM at runtime would be cool

So I don't have to type it myself all the time

[dark wigeon]

Yeah it outputs code not the asset data like the level editor so you can just copy paste it into the mod

[copper gull]

in Randomizer 2 is Fury of the Fallen always swapped out for a geo chest?